Thread 149353448

>non-human character is obviously meant to be white
>"ackshually they've always been POC"

The worst trend of 2010s cartoons

>>149353448 (OP)
yeah its best when blacks are green

>>149353466
>Piccolo
>Black
This is the most retarded shit to believe. Kill yourself.

>>149353448 (OP)
Never cared for the discourse, if there is some bombass art coming out of it it's cool.

>muslim girl
>preppy sporty cheerleader with bare arms, legs, trainers and sweatbands and a southern twang accent
They really did not think that through

You must have a short dick to find this to be controversial.

>>149353522
Good goy, 100 twitter updoots for you

>>149353535
holy shit humanized mr gus??

>>149353510
Fuckin Bats. Send em back to Africa

>>149353549
>It's Tails faggotry
I hate that little shit.

>>149353513
Who says that she's muslim

>>149353492
That’s one of the few on there that makes sense. Get a grip tardo

>>149353606
Fuck off with this shit, faggot. Giving the faggy little boy his own harem never makes any sense. Kill yourself.

>>149353606
Nah, you're just terminally American

>>149353448 (OP)
>default every non-human character to white in your head
>throw a fit when thats not always true
what a sad little man

>>149353448 (OP)
What about him?

>>149353510
>>149353549
I heard she's supposed to be a latina rep, and is based on some kind of coconut white bat found in central america

>>149353644
Shut up troon

>>149353648
Well she’s not based on any specific bat, but you’re right her creator said she’s based on Latin women

I think making her black is just an exaggeration of artists because she used to be more tanned

>>149353680
Some people say she’s a Honduran White Bat, but that’s not from Sega it’s just cause her fur is white. Her nose is wrong to be one though, those are one of those bats with the weird looking noses

>>149353513
>brown? must be muslim!
Do you not know how religion works?

>>149353510
Why make Rouge black when Knuckles is right there?

>>149353563
you hate him cuz you ain't him?

>>149353644
Penny, Marceline, and Marshall Lee were overwhelmingly white coded though, as in, there's absolutely nothing that suggests they're POC but tons of evidence pointing to them being white

>>149353706
>as in, there's absolutely nothing that suggests they're POC
So because they don't read as ethnic stereotypes they're white coded? Do they need to act like Speedy Gonzales before they're POC coded? Sounds kind of racist if you ask me

>>149353714
Illiterate? They explicitly read as white stereotypes, that's why the retcons don't make sense

If Penny were any poc (she’s not, she has the whitest voice ever) she’d at least be asian. What with her yellowish skin in S1-3. Not whatever hideous goblina that is

>>149353718
What constitutes a white stereotype in your eyes because those characters are largely different personality wise in my opinion

>>149353742
>white skinned emo goth girl with long straight hair that plays guitar, whose mom and dad were light skinned demons in an early episode
>girl with the last name Fitzgerald whose dad is named Patrick and plays the bagpipes, whose mom is noted to look identical to the dad so she's definitely not mixed
There's literally no cope that would reasonably make anyone believe they were always meant to be non-white

>>149353694
I mean sure if you love anknda dick so much.

If only black people put as much effort into creating things as they do stealing. Even fictional characters aren't safe!

I just feel that there has been a trend of American white people de-mystifying fiction and talking about literal head canons they made up as canon subtext by calling it “coding”

It just creates a lame environment where in no fictional creature is allowed to be a fictional creature and the predominant discourse is a bunch of white people get into spat fights on how “X character clearly acts white, Z character has them Asian tendencies “ which always comes off as racist and corny

I genuinely despise who ever came up with the term “coding” so much it’s unreal

>>149353828
the only people who talk like that are woke blacks on twitter

>>149353838
Some but it’s mostly the “muh media literacy “ tumblr crowd

>>149353742
Bro Marshall Lee looked like this

Find me one photo of a black guy looking like this

>>149353448 (OP)
>1 (one) character is black
oh not one character

>>149353742
for Penny?
Being smart, nice, demure, considerate, polite. Very white traits

>>149353742
for Penny?
Being smart, nice, demure, considerate, polite. Very white "coded" traits

>>149353838
the person who made this very thread is doing the exact same thing and I guarantee they're white

99% of this 'but this character was meant to be white' shit is white people on 4chan and twitter constantly marinating in racism and then being like 'wait this character doesn't embody the crude stereotypes I associate with nonwhites? clearly they were meant to be white'

>>149353777
The Marceline thing is especially funny because for years fanartists drew human Marceline as white until the human mom retcon and Muto saying he was always saw Marceline as black because of Olivia Olsen. But like Olivia is light-skinned as fuck. Yeah like it's clear it wasn't always intention, it is what it is at this point but I don't see the need to act like it always was though.

>>149353948
Cope and seethe tranny

>>149353948
Nah see >>149353777

>>149353886
I look like that.

>>149353948
The entire “fictional creature is a stand in for irl race actually “ is just burger race derailment syndrome

>>149353966
case in point

>>149353448 (OP)
Penny looks disgusting.

>>149353466
Why do americans like to think Piccolo is black? He is a green alien/demon for every else around the world. Was he voiced by a black guy in your dub or something?

>>149353635
Yep. I grew up in America and the blacks found piccolo to be black, and I found that to make sense. That’s really the key

>>149353694
Fetishization. It's not about sense,it's about worship.

>>149354028
he's cool and bald and cause he's green they can pretend he is
the real answer is that black people in america use twitter and social media extremely disproportionately compared to whites and so in the american dragon ball fandom which is also disproportionately black they all agreed amongst one another that he is totally one of them and not ytey

>>149353448 (OP)
I don't mind Penny being brown but that design just sucks.

>>149353448 (OP)
why does Darwin look like a girl

>>149354028
A couple reasons, and this applies to most of what they call ‘black coded’ characters in America
>differently colored friend in the friend group. In America this is what black people are
>historically an enemy but is managing his emotions to fight for good and become good (not kidding, this is key to your Raphaels and your Knuckleses)
>is alienated or is an alien (not from here and he knows it)
People are reluctant to speak non these facts, but the subliminal reigns supreme. You look at a guy like this and you can just see he has the black condition and is black.

>>149354090
Man we knew piccolo was black back in middle school, as white kids. How? We had one black friend and he was piccolo. He liked piccolo the most

>>149354107
Entirely American phenomenon, Toriyama didn't have black people on his mind for one second while working on Piccolo

>>149354107
I knew piccolo was green. Don't know who "we" is but you might want to get yourself tested

>>149354028
Black people and whites that obsess over blacks are desperate to have any sort of "representation" to the point of claiming anything and anything that isn't inherently white to be "black coded", even if there's nothing to support those claims. It's the same shit with Knuckles. Have you seen how they react when people draw human knuckles as a white guy? It's fucking pathetic.

>>149354113
That’s fair, I’m just saying in America piccolo’s black.

>>149354117
We have a vast cultural wound that desires healing and produces hype and special effect when satisfied even accidentally!!! OKAY?!?!

>>149354113
It’s not even an American thing it’s a black people thing. Ask an American that isn’t black or near a black person and they won’t see it. I actually knew a lot of people who assumed he was Indian because of his turban.

>>149354028
he's a stoic minority surrounded by retards with inherent privileges (Saiyan genes) but he keeps grinding anyway despite the setbacks

>>149354062
>I grew up in America and the blacks found piccolo to be black
Latinos in latin america are obsessed with Dragon Ball. How come they never say "X character is one of us"? What is wrong with america?

>>149354132
Basically if you have a black person in your friend group as an American, Piccolo might resemble him as the different race of guy who’s on your team

>>149354132
He is Indian-coded, the DB setting is based on China and they had long time relations with India, notably they brought Buddhism to China and were seen as alien foreigners

>>149354141
I think they do say that? Whats wrong with America though is this longstanding black-white conflict brought on by slavery that even when resolved produces a knockback effect of relief and satisfaction counter to the grief and stress that conflict produces

how do we explain blacks trying to claim Deku and Okarun as black?
they're easily influenced and believe any generic highschool shonenshit about screaming and punching and acting corny is le black culcha just because the entertainment made to be exciting made them excited. they even duped themselves into thinking being nerdy and smart is a black thing because of Urkel.
It literally is just "everything cool is black everything not is white"

>>149354141
Little nigga, why do you think they love Vegeta so much?

You guys are really trying to debunk fanon right now...

Hear me out guys, maybe the fictional creature in this fictional story is a fictional creature and not a stand in for irl race

Wild I know

>>149354160
Haha this one I don’t get. Little zoomers are cute though they’re trying their best running around in this multicultural world trying to play Minecraft and watch anime with their friends

>>149353448 (OP)
don't know about the left, but wasn't Merceline's mom black?

>>149354170
Good. Now tell that to the creators

>>149354170
The OP examples are canon humanizations

>>149354159
>I think they do say that?
We don't
>>149354163
Because he is cool and his dub voice actor is amazing.

>>149354170
There’s no reason to fight against it unless you think there’s a problem with people thinking it in the first place. That’s fine, I just want to hear the reason (it might be a good one)

>>149354181
>we don't
Okay Kevin.

>>149354174
Retcon, Marceline was designed before any voice actor was brought on and Pen wanted the VA for Vanessa Doofenshmirtz who is a white character

>>149354174
Ambiguously brown before being confirmed black a few years later

>>149354193
Damn her songs would've sounded much better.

>>149354191
Ustedes los gringos son super estúpidos

>>149354173
Zoomers are not cute, they are very annoying, not even talking about shit like xitter drama, just generally zoomers are annoying and I am a gen z myself

>>149354175
99% of this is fanon cringe
>>149354176
Yeah but like 80% of the time it’s just head canons
>>149354184
Have you seen the thread anon? “Muh codding” discourse just inspires really corny racism from literally everyone

>>149354160
>trying to claim
what do you mean by this? it's literally just race-swapped fanart

>>149354160
I like how Japanese Dandadan fans dogpiled Okarun's dub VA for promoting the race swap Okarun art, it's nice to see everyone is tired of that shit

>>149354107
I think you're confusing Piccolo and Mr. Popo.

>>149354028
Honestly Gohan was more Black coded than piccolo. That’s why Black people like piccolo they want a dad, instead of a bye son.

>>149354028
>Why do americans like to think Piccolo is black
he sounds similar to a black person, and its just a fun meme

>>149354028
unc vibes
captcha: NAGRA

>>149354160
The blackwashing shit annoys me to no end. They'll use every excuse in the book to excuse it and treat it like it's a noble act, but when an artist, sometimes the authors themselves, draw a brown character in harsh lighting or slightly less brown, they go on a crusade and scream and cry till the cows come home. Remember when Horikoshi drew Miruko and everyone wanted him dead because he apparently "whitewashed" a tanned Japanese woman?

>>149354236
>yet more delusional white racist westerners thinking the Japanese are going to be their allies in the culture wars rather than just ignoring them entirely

>>149354222
Doesn’t cause racism for me. I know some people have a problem with this stuff but I’m not going to lie about my perspective just because some of you guys can’t handle it

>>149354323
>excuse it
I wasn't aware that fanart needed an excuse

>>149354160
>>149354323

When east asians race swap african or mesoamerican deities to be white twinks do people argue that the Japanese are claiming African gods to be asian/white?


This is Harriet Tubman according to the Japanese

>>149354323
>some people draw black characters!
>but other entirely different people get upset when darker characters are portrayed as lighter-skinned!
>I think this indicates hypocrisy
I'm going to explain this very simply: this is actually a very clear sign of lower intelligence. Your brain mashes together a bunch of people with different opinions as one person and then interprets inconsistencies as hypocrisy largely because you're too dumb to imagine the variety of people out there. You then get overly emotional about this completely made up person with impossible opinions

>>149354353
Nta but japanese artists get bullied all the time for this shit online, mostly by americans.

>>149354329
I think you're projecting because you're the ones that deluded themselves into thinking there'd be a non-white coalition

>>149354342
Why did a black artist get dogpiled for drawing white Marceline fanart? Guess he needed an excuse

>>149353886
Find me a real life vampire

>>149354375
The only people that cheer on black edits are also the ones that hate any sort of white washing because it all falls under the same mental capacity that left leaning freaks on Twitter have. They are indeed the same types of people.

>>149354353
ZAMN, Harriet Tubman looks like that? I KNEEL, GENERAL TUBMAN. LET'S FREE THESE SLAVES AND KILL THESE HWITES TOGETHER

>>149353448 (OP)
What about Marceline screams "obviously white" lmao. If it bothers you this much, you're just a racist. Simple as.

>>149354387
>you're the ones
who do you think you're talking to? I barely pay attention to politics, but it's impossible not to notice that there very much is a certain 'type' of very online white person these days who holds out constant hope that the Japanese will agree with all their racist bullshit and join them in their largely American culture wars, when in reality the Japanese are for the most part completely unaware of such things

>>149354407
>actually, mushing together everyone online into one homunculus and getting angry at the homunculus is correct
This is your brain justifying its own lack of bandwidth. Stop making excuses for being retarded

>>149354426
>when in reality the Japanese are for the most part completely unaware of such things
Until some American faggots steal their art and edits it to be black while harassing them for days on Twitter because they drew Nessa in harsh sunlight.

>>149354419
Tbh I think it mostly bothers people who hadn't kept up with the show in years who saw her as white.

>>149354353
you think Harriet Tubman is an african deity?

>>149354437
>>actually, mushing together everyone online into one homunculus and getting angry at the homunculus is correct
This but unironically. Many of them are all low IQ retards that get all their opinions from the people they follow. They might as well be one big homunculus sharing the same 5 braincells.

>>149354141
Evert race loves DBZ.

>>149354419
see >>149353777
If Marceline being obviously white bothers you this much, you're just a racist. Simple as.

>>149354426
>that the Japanese will agree with all their racist bullshit and join them in their largely American culture wars
I literally just said they dogpiled a black VA for promoting raceswap fanart, so yes they do agree with the supposed "racist bullshit"

>>149354407
>another low brain function simplification
Really evaluate yourself, my friend

>>149354099
Yeah this, it's primarily that he's just aesthetically and in powerset different from the others in a way that cannot be hidden or reconciled.

>>149354437
>>149354497
Cope, it's literally part of the exact same twitter phenomenon

>>149354466
Wow, a triple down? Get a grip buddy

>>149354500
Yeah you keep saying that and it continues to be stupid

>>149354500
I understand "twitter phenomenon" is the name you've given your homunculus but you really need to understand that it's just a bunch of different people and its opinions don't actually need to be consistent

>>149354484
It wouldn't. I don't care. And neither should you

>>149353513
>>149353721
>>149353902
>>149354028
>>149354097
Is Penny Irish or Scottish judging by her surname?

>>149353448 (OP)
>FUCK you creator of show, let ME tell you how your characters are MEANT to look
why is this board so entitled

>>149354281
millennials said it as a joke, zoomers unironically think he is black

>>149353549
>"SHIKAKAAAAAAAA!!!"

>>149353448 (OP)
>Rightard bait thread that will get a zillion replies with almost none correctly pointing out that OP is a Nazi

>non-human character obviously meant to be white is voiced by a black woman
>uhh she's not white she's a smurf chud!!

>>149353706
Marceline's VA is a mutt and Marshall Lee's VA is black.

>>149353510

i never saw rouge as black. knuckles for sure though. i guess it helps that sega leans into it

>>149354606
Clueless

>>149354512
While he is wrong, there is some truth in it, I did find some users on xitter who genuinely think like that, but they are not the majority hopefully

I cant fuck marcaline and penny now knowing they are black...

>>149354659
>"They're voiced by blacks, so that makes the characters black"
Behold! A real African brotha.

>>149354659
You are underage so you have never known rational non-mindbroken times, but there was once a time when that didn't factor into the casting/character design in the slightest, for example Marshall Lee was meant to be voiced by a latino guy and they went for Dong Lover when they couldn't get the latino guy

>>149354761
Who cares? Anything can work and if the show shows the character is black, then they’re black. Or fans can think anyone is black if they want. Who cares

>>149354598
I just don't like being gaslit >>149353777

>>149354774
Right but the writers factored it into the character when they showed human Darwin as black and implied Marceline’s mom is black or whatever they did

>piccolo
>not black
Dude would get invited to the cookout sooner than even Granddad from The Boondocks.

>>149353448 (OP)
non-human side characters are always poc coded, their inclusion is always about respecting minorities

>>149354777
>passive aggressive "who cares why do you care so much about it" post from someone who would care a lot about it if they didn't get their way #209458

>>149354375
>>149354512
You can’t find a single blackwashing artist who thinks it’s ok to draw black characters with lighter skin.
It’s entirely an aginary homunculus you’ve created to excuse the totality of twitter blacks who are all the type of low iq perpetual victims who do this

>>149353448 (OP)
If marceline is black based on her VA being mixed, then why isn't Vanessa doofenschmirtz, another girl she voices, black?

>>149354789
>human Darwin as black
Never happened though Ben said he's black
>and implied Marceline’s mom is black or whatever they did
Retcon

>>149354794
Postboy?

>>149354797
Nah you could find them. Protip: there are things going on and people doing them that aren’t through a computer screen

>>149354794
“the cookout” only exists in the plane of black imaginations because all of them are too dumb now to safely operate or afford a barbecue
What you really mean is invited to order out the menu at red lobster then either A) demand they pay with EBT or B) collectively all walk out without paying

>>149354797
whitewashing is done out of disgust for black skin, "blackwashing" is done out of appreciation for the media they like

>>149354812
Are you fuckin insane, man?

>>149354811
You keep claiming these people exist somewhere outside of your desperate cope world.
I’d love for you to present one as example. All blackwashing artists are mindbroken low iq jamals who ree like bitches at Mirko and Knuckles being 2 shades too light

>>149354816
>"blackwashing" is done out of appreciation for the media they like
Yep, definitely not for any entitlement reasons. No sir.

>>149354800
Because they're different characters? Strange question. They probably didn't think about Marceline's ethnicity before they wrote the mother backstory, and were like why not make her black like Olivia. It's not that deep.

>>149354827
People who don’t have Twitter art accounts and aren’t professional internet artists don’t have this beef at all. I grew up with kids who took Piccolo and Knuckles as black, they were just black people who identified with the character, they didn’t fight anyone seriously over it

>>149354843
Define entitlement in this sense?

>>149354812
>>149354824
No it's just that >>149353948
was obviously correct about this thread lol

>>149354824
No I merely pay attention to the real world and not your cushioned twitter diverse utopia that only exists in talk
Your low iq subrace is the reason restaurants now ask for prepay

Who cares if the vampire cartoon character is black? Especially Marceline who you can headcanon as whatever the fuck race you want. This is a non issue.

>>149354859
>"You drew this mongoloid red echidna as a white man. I DESERVE TO CALL YOUR ART SHIT, EDIT YOUR ART AND HARASS YOU BECAUSE TWITTER TOLD ME KNUCKLES IS BLACK!"
That sounds pretty entitled to me.

>>149354866
because 4chan is now full of white people who have learned to be race-baiters and victim-criers as bad as the people they bitch about, so when a character they like turns out to be nonwhite they take it as a personal affront

>>149354874
You can find this sort of thing obnoxious, but let's not pretend that
1. Saying "fixed ur shit" is calling the art objectively shit in quality
2. Editing someone's art is somehow victimizing them in any manner
3. A tweet like this somehow constitutes "harassment"

i like how nothingburger Twitter retards being Twitter retards suddenly matters when they're doing something you personally disagree with
it's almost like these newfags weren't around for the tumblrina days and don't know better than to ignore their retardation

>>149354816
Yaaaaass black culcha, the cookout , “unc” ahhh shiieeeeeeet

>>149354888
>1. Saying "fixed ur shit" is calling the art objectively shit in quality
Yes it absolutely is. It's a level of smugness that basically says "let ME fix that for you since you can't do it right".
>2. Editing someone's art is somehow victimizing them in any manner
It's insanely rude to draw over someone's art in an attempt to shame them over nothing.
>3. A tweet like this somehow constitutes "harassment"
You're conveniently forgetting the thousands of other tweets from similar retards calling for the artist to remove their shit. This happens all the time, especially to Asian artists.

I thought Knuckles was Latino representation, at least when I was younger. His gruff VA, the fact his people built ziggurats, how they dressed, they lived in a jungle...

>>149353777
Marceline's mom was always intended as human. There was that one ep with a grey skinned lady next to Marcy in a background picture, which is either a goof, or a background designer just doing their own thing. It means nothing.

>>149354816
Kys

>>149354623
Kys tranny

>>149354899
>it's almost like these newfags weren't around for the tumblrina days
Judging by the quality of this board, I'd say the tumblrina days all moved here.

>>149354919
The dreads and rasta flag shoes always made him read as black to me. Then they made all his stage music rap in the adventure games and that just solidified it

>>149354862
Cope and seethe troon

>>149354816
Blackwashing art is still lame, faux-inspirational and corny as all hell. The end result, whether it was crafted out of "appreciation" or not, is garbage.
Also, >>149354797 is completely right.

>>149354866
>Who cares if the vampire cartoon character is black?
I don't, but they should be drawn as a black vampire instead of a white one.
Being bloodless doesn't make melanin disappear. Or hair turn straight.

>>149354973
Demon genes too strong

>>149354945
>everyone I disagree with is a tranny
One day you're going to be embarrassed by the way you've acted. Hopefully you've had the good sense to remain anonymous while doing so

>>149354982
Said the walking and talking fedora muppet.

>>149354907
I dunno anon it sounds like you're a pearl-clutching faggot to me. You're never going to convince me that pixels in a drawing are victimizing someone, the person is 100 percent free to ignore it and ignore them

>>149355000
>fedora muppet
You're too deep into weird internet circles to even be legible

>>149354797
>n-n-no u I'll use ur word!
anon this just confirms how retarded you are, this is an argument a child would make

>>149354973
I think adventure time's artstyle is simplistic enough for none of that to matter. Faces in adventure time are just two dots and a line. Marceline can be very plausably black, mulatto, latino, white or whatever else. Plently of black people with straight hair

>>149353694
Blacks unironically think all of the Sonic characters are black or half black. They're insane. Seeing the latest discourse on it, they've completely forgot about White Urban culture, ie skating, techno music etc
>>149353549
>>149353680
>LatinX Rouge
>Tails X Rouge
kys

>>149355032
>the crybaby racist is the sort of guy who gets triggered by sonic ships
ahhhh suddenly things are becoming clear

I hope Knuckles turns human in the fourth movie and he looks like Fabio.

>>149354921
Don’t go into always with adventure time if you do that than Marcy and PB were never meant to be a couple.

>>149355042
>>149354982
Stop talking like someone who'd tell someone that they've just gotten pwned unironically you Ben Shapiro hipster clone.

Heh.....I'm too busy throating chimp cock to talk to you BIGOTS!

>>149354841
Sorry anon, can't salvage this thread.

>>149355082
anon I'm going to repeat that wherever you're hanging out on the internet it's making you borderline incomprehensible outside of it. Broaden your horizons a bit so you can at least make fucking sense to people who aren't personally aware of your inside jokes

>>149354323
>>149354827
>>149354843
As a kid I thought the term "blackwash" didn't make any sense, as in my understanding there was no way where you'd wash something and it come out darker.

>>149355032
I’ve seen that delusion too
https://x.com/zxnoshima/status/1905739056446845033

Most deluded of all is they will always say “Tails and Amy? Ayo they DEFINITELY black”. You know, the blonde blue eyed gentle mild mannered smart one and the girly preppy sappy romantic one. It’s cause they badly want to insist everything positive in the world is black, because as well know all the well behaved girly gentle geniuses of the world are black folx.

>>149354649
The lefts anti white hypocrisy is so tiresome

>>149354866
>>149354876
The people who got us into this shit sure cared a lot about making it happen, anyone who wants to go back to the non-mindbrken times is going to have to care about making it happen as well

>>149354649
I think thats just a smurf anon, they are not human

>>149354484
Her VA is literally half black.

>>149355132
They’re dumb, crude and have no manners that’s why they want to insist the smart, nice and and behaved characters are black because they live in an entirety fictitious world that only exists on twitter.

>>149355142
Darwin is a fish, how can he be black

>>149355139
I dont think there is anything wrong with having black cartoon characters outside the usual urban environments in which they are portrayed. Adventure time doesnt occur in an european medieval village and Marceline is supposedly the kid of american urbanites.

>>149355139
>actually here's my mental excuse for why I'm allowed to be a faggot crying victim over nothing
I think instead you should just kill yourself

>>149354588
Probably one of the Blacks with Mc- or O'- surnames, since those do exist.

>>149355149
She voices Vanessa Doofenshmirtz, is Vanessa black?

>>149355059
Not from the start, no. Things develop. I suppose they could've made marcy's mom a demon without technically contradicting anything, just pointing out that was not an intended thing.

>>149355157
I dont know, I dont think he is black, he seems like a fish to me.
However, I dont think there is anything wrong with people headcanoning non human fictional characters as whatever, smurfetted can be white and Darwin black in whatever headcanon you like.

>>149355030
Look at OP, they could have given him dreads instead of spiky hair.
They also could have used another skin colour to make the character into a black vampire.
They chose not to.

>>149355165
Yes that's exactly the sort of mentality that got us here, now you're getting it

>>149355171
Careful anon, those curves look very latina coded to me

>>149354812
Anon acting like they've never seen a black cook before or even been to a barbeque out in the open.

>>149353549
Black Rouge is even more dangerous to Foxboys

Tumblr tier thread desu

>>149355176
Yeah, there are blacks with spiky hair and blacks with lighter skin tones. Not every black character has to be some ghetto stereotype.

>>149355149
Samurai Jack...
Famous black man...

>>149355194
see >>149353948

>>149355187
I’ve seen plenty of blacks out in the open
https://youtube.com/watch?v=XWoHcSTqiy4
I wish I saw them far less

>>149354843
>>149354874
You're either trying too hard to sound like ragebait, or you're actually raging over the reverse equivalent of pic related

>>149355149
The brown girl in the OP image is voiced by a white woman, inconceivable right?

>>149355203
see >>149353777

>>149355193
Just go to /aco/ dude
Cumbrains always trying to interject in shit. Go jerk off by yourself asshat.

>just go to aco dude im trying to debate poltics
Hide these images then

>>149355214
emo goth girls exist. Plus Marceline isnt even goth, she is just a vampire.

>>149355157
Thats because DARLING ITS BETTER
DOWN WHERE ITS WETTER
TAKE IT FROM ME

>>149355233
do you mean black goth girls?
And no they don’t. They never did.

>>149355233
Missed a 'black' at the start there

>>149355214
Now compare the proportion of people bringing up those points to the proportion of people saying that black people are low-IQ savages oppressing them on twitter
i.e. there are legitimate points you can make here or there about this or that character probably being originally envisioned as white but the majority of the discourse is "black people are too uncivilized to be this character that I like"

>>149355238
they do tho, just do a google search

>>149355248
Please stay on topic

>>149355216
the person posting sexy pictures is literally the most based person in this thread and a better poster than literally anyone else here

>please stop consuming media in a way I don't agree with, it's very triggering
I'm on 4chan right?

>>149355262
The sexy pictures are a much welcome reprieve from the political retardation.

>>149355216
how about you go to /pol/ instead faggot

>>149355194
>Not every black character has to be some ghetto stereotype.
Then why did they give him dreads when they made him black instead of keeping the spiky hair?
I don't know what offends you about the idea of drawing a black vampire. Black vampires have been a thing for a long time.

>>149355242
As long as the lipstick is black, thats where its at

>>149355216
>nnnnnoooooo looking at cute girls makes you a cumbrain go awayyyyyyy
kys zoomer

>>149355272
Didn’t the Steven universe fanbase harass a girl to suicide because she “white washed” character in her fanaet?

>>149355258
They don’t though, actually go outside.
The goth scene was a real thing that happened, not just a trendy cosplay on the internet to look hot. And the goth scene was predominantly if not entirely white, because black “culture” was and remains antithetical to it.

>>149355169
Her mom is....beige.
But in seriousness, it's dumb to act like her being brown when she's not a Vampire is out of left field.

>>149355209
What you posted is genuine bait. >>149354843 is someone that genuinely got pissed off at white knuckles and wanted to act morally superior and shame the artist for it. They aren't similar in the slightest.

>>149355302
Did that happen on 4chan?

>>149355309
>actually the only true goths are the ones that stopped existing decades ago
Not only is this stupid but the ones who do it to look hot on the internet are by far superior to the goths of yesteryear and I say this as someone who personally experienced the goth subculture as it happened

>>149355309
>stuff i made up
How tf have you never seen a black goth chick? Am i from an alternate reality?

>>149355258
>>149355317
Marceline is based on a specific type of white girl that you had to be around for in that time period to know about, nothing about her is black, even when her mom was revealed as ambiguously brown, everything about Marcy remained white

>>149355320
you are literally just saying "actually it's okay when we do it"

>>149354141
Porque los latinos cuentan con culturas e identidades propias de sus paises. Los negros llevan 200+ años en USA y su única identidad sigue siendo ser putos negros, por eso intentan apropiarse de todo para identificarse con algo.
Deberían haberlos mandado a Liberia a todos a punta de pistola.

>>149355342
Yes I agree, "black goths" are stuff you made up. They weren't a thing.

>>149354141
they do all the time, they just like to ignore it when it's convenient for conversations where they're trying to suck up to white people. See >>149355350

>>149355343
Marceline is a fucking cartoon character. You fuckin retard. How the hell does that look anything like her?

>>149355317
>>149355343
>>149353886
Same goes for Marshall Lee, you all are exposing yourself as underage zoomers for not knowing these things

>>149355157
>Darwin is a fish, how can he be black
His VA is black kid

>>149355361
Marceline isn't a goth though. like at all.

>>149355173
no he is black and if you draw him as a white boy we'll send you death threats

>>149355361
>Went to Goth Club
>There's like 10 black goth girls
>Legit goth too, not "I'm just dressed in Black"

>>149355361
You are a fucking idiot bro. Or you are just lying about what time period you grew up in because you're underage or baiting.

>>149355209
You sure seem desperate to defend one side and belittle another while trying to appear unbiased and disinterested

>>149355373
this is true, she's not even really emo either. Personality and voice-wise I'd say she's more hipster, and she even began to dress like it after having some cute vampire outfits in earlier seasons

>>149355369
So is Penny white? Her VA is white
Is Vanessa Doofenshmirtz black? Her VA is black

>>149355365
>they do all the time,
Why do you lie, gringo?

>>149355392
uhhhhhhh it doesn't count

>>149355367
t. underage zoomer that wasn't around when every white girl was cosplaying Marcy and people thought it was the most natural thing in the world

>>149355378
Funny I went to 1000 goth clubs and haven't seen a single one, funny how that works

>>149353448 (OP)
true
murricans are just that retarded

>>149355349
No, im saying one was made by a guy to piss off others and the other was made by someone to act superior over another. Both are equally dumb.

>>149355397
personally I doubt you're even hispanic anon. Likely you're just larping as one for the thread

>>149355405
She didn't go all in on the grey.

>>149355405
>adventure time was popular
Woah...my dude thats such a good point. Clearly marceline is white because white girls cosplayed her. Youre a goddamn dumbass bro.

>>149355279
>enters a thread about a certain topic
>starts posting off-topic shit
>gets mad when told to leave

>>149355289
Nothing about it offends me, Im just saying they dont have to give characters any stereotypical black hairdos in order for the character to be black. I dont know why a non dreads black person offends you.
>>149355309
Unlike you, I dont judge what there is in the world from what I can personally observe in y immediate vicinity. Its absolutely verifiable that black goths have existed.

>>149355365
>they just like to ignore it when it's convenient for conversations where they're trying to suck up to white people.
I'm spanish, you dumb lib cuck.
Post one
>1
example of latinos claiming a DB character is latino that isn't a meme.

Yep pol lost this thread badly

>>149355444
Show me a black character being mostly cosplayed by white people from the last five years

>>149355300
Yeah these imagess aren't sexualy suggestive at all
You fucking disingenuous faggot.

>>149355457
spanish isn't latino

>>149355465
Marcy is stealthy black, it's different

>>149355465
Show me people cosplaying cartoon characters

>>149355453
>>149355472
I love making /pol/ seethe over sexy women. Really not beating all the closeted gay accusations

>>149353466
Savage Dragon isn't black. His son is, but because his mom is black.

>>149355474
No shit nigger.

>>149355190
Black Rouge also looks like shit, so it's kind of a tossup.

>>149355428
Let me guess, you are black, don't you? onions hondureño y vivo en Tegucigalpa

>>149355496
You're fat

>>149353510
>>149353694
Rouge's bare skin color was darker than some other characters in her debut game

>>149355500
no I'm American. If you want my race I'm portuguese by ancestry. I don't speak taco or taco-related languages tho

>You took my only white characters...
>Now I'm gonna starve...

>>149355535
post all the white characters made after 2018

>>149355496
Maybe, lol
I definitely prefer the usual look but it's not the worst i've seen

>>149355519
Could have just said you're retarded.

>>149355535
you don't understand, fanon making characters black is LITERALLY white genocide

>>149355343
I knew some emo black girls back in the day too. Any highschool with a big minority population but not entirely ghetto would have a microcosm of any popular subcultures of the time. I knew black and latina emo girls and latina hot topic goths.The flannel and skinny jeans look was popular at the time.

>>149355350
true
murricans did their best to remove the culture from the people they enslaved and put murrican culture in their heads instead. this is why african americans have ridiculous ideologies and leaders (malcom x, luther, nine angles, black hebrews.) It's just blacks trying to form an identity.
You don't see that with latin america's native americans simply because they were next to their original culture.

>>149355535
>>You took my only black characters...
>>Now I'm gonna starve...

>>149355589
Cool, Marcy wasn't based on them

>>149355496
black rouge gets rejected by foxboys

>>149355589
latina emo and latina goth was like a whole thing in and of itself. Blacks were rarer to embrace these subcultures but it definitely did happen, usually among the shyer/less socially outgoing ones. I will say that a black being into goth was usually a good signifier that they made interracial friendships more than other blacks and you could interpret it as them adapting styles atypical for their race almost as an act of rebellion. But sometimes they just thought it looked cool

Why does it matter if some characters are black and some are white?

>>149355636
it matters to people with no real issues in their lives
catch a nigga in ukraine arguing about whether spongeBob is black or white you wont

>>149355116
Someone doesn’t paint

>>149355636
Because people tell us representation matters yet they keep making white character's stupid and or evil or get rid of them being white entirety.

>>149355636
you're being replaced in your own country as you speak and ignoring the signs

>>149355668
The one thing I'm glad about AI doing is at least taking the jobs away from these pretentious asshat Gen X/Millennial writers who copy-paste the same generic writing styles and character changes that no one likes except for them.

>>149355636
because there are blacks and whites who are obsessed with finding reasons to feel like victims. They're losers with lots of time on their hands so they are on the internet more than anyone else and they come to dominate the discourse with their insane bitching, so they become everyone's problem

>>149355668
So all white characters should be good guys?

I have anti-woke fatigue

>>149355707
he will say no but effectively this is all he would be satisfied with because he'll cry that it's racism if it's ever not the case. they need to be smart and sexy too

>>149355132
> gentle mild mannered smart one and the girly preppy sappy romantic one. It’s cause they badly want to insist everything positive in the world is black
I agree there’s nothing particularly black about those characters, but calling these specifically unblack traits is just hopeless of you. ‘The character can’t be black because they’re nice’, I mean get a hold of yourself man. And acting like this is some sort of statement from them that only black people can be nice? Fucking ridiculous.

>>149355665
Tell an ukrainian Kievan Rus' was created by blacks.
See what happens.

>>149355636
Depends on the setting. In a space opera?
If it's set in Han Dynasty China and they make the emperor white and his empress black, that's messed up.
In the case of Adventure Time, it's because the art for the character didn't convey that they were black by ignoring what black vampires look like. They get white-washed by vampirism apparently.

>>149355715
I have anti-woke fatigue fatigue

>>149355739
You should go back to your home board so you can talk about it then

>>149355749
You should go back to tumblr/twitter/discord to talk about it then

>>149355715
Dude I’m fucking sorry but black people are literally American citizens, they will show up in fiction.

>>149355715
Same. This discourse is getting so old by this point, and it always leads to the same place.

Chuds are just racist and expect normal people to be too

>>149354062
>blacks
>making sense
lol

>>149355734
>grey washing is the same as white washing
Retardkun...

>>149355739
Same. This discourse is getting so old by this point, and it always leads to the same place.

Libs are just racist and expect normal people to be too

>>149355756
That's where you're from though, your posts aren't organic at all

>>149355763
Isn’t that just profiling?

>>149355766
Looks pretty white to me

>>149353706
>Penny, Marceline, and Marshall Lee were overwhelmingly white coded though
holy fucking /co/mblr

>>149355734
there is no one thing that black vampires "look like"
vampires are undead and different forms of media play up how "undead" they are. Marcy's gray skin seems to argue that AT's vampires do appear pretty decayed (though it's cartoonified and cutesified). Regardless black people do still go gray when they rot, so it seems plausible to me

>>149355777
>Organic
Wow buzzword you showed them :/

>>149355715
i do too, but I think that's a very common sentiment these days, especially after 6 months of orange man

>>149355786
anon if you're trying to argue that Marceline isn't meant to have a somewhat undead gray pallor to her skin then you're just being delusional at this point

>>149355787
I mean they’re sad rock and roll musicians with daddy/mommy issues. That’s easily more of a white thing than a black thing.

>>149355715
Seconded

>>149355805
and "coded" is a tumblr thing, fag

>farmworld Marcy was voiced by a white woman
>young Marcy was voiced by two different white girls
tumblrbros hold me.. marcy is white..

>>149355805
yeah but there's a difference between "this particular set of tropes and stereotypes is more likely to occur within one race than another" and "THIS PERSONALITY TYPE CAN'T BE BLACK"
I can grant that between whites and blacks, you are more likely to meet someone with Marceline's general personality type among whites than you are to meet them among blacks. That doesn't mean they don't exist

>>149355715
I have obnoxious faggot fatigue. You included.

>>149354098
Shut up brown

>>149355765
A hurr hurr

>>149355777
Pfft this guy literally thinks he has to sound like everybody else to post here. Seriously lame

>>149353902
that applies to Darwin more then penny Penny in the later acts like a typical blackie

>>149355842
>I have obnoxious faggot fatigue. Myself included.
ftfy

>>149355636
Such a simple question really caused all the most schizophrenic freaks to converge kekmao

>>149355831
Finally some sense

>>149355831
Which is why Marcy is White coded and not black coded.

>>149355636
Why indeed..

>>149355802
>anon has never seen a dead black man

>>149353706
>pointing them white
Same with Darwin but you faggots keep insisting he's black are your retarded?

>>149353721
Darwin is more white and sounds white then penny

>>149355831
Non-japanese samurai existed, and Samurai Jack is not voiced by a japanese person, yet somehow that doesn't make Samurai Jack non-japanese

>>149355863
given that people in this thread are trying to argue that we should take offense at "white-coded" characters being portrayed as black, no

>>149355885
>Non-japanese samurai existed
retard

>>149355885
>>149355889
JACKJACKJACKmind

>>149355885
I don't get what you're trying to say here. Samurai Jack is Japanese because within the story he's meant to be Japanese, simple as that

>>149355889
Jacks not a nonhuman monster you tard, did you forget the premise of the thread?

>>149355890
All cording is stereotyping and profiling. Like explain to me how Marcy isn’t coded to be white yet piccolo is coded to be black?

>>149355890
Marcy was never portrayed as black, she is entirely white in every way in every facet of the show canon

>>149355786
Grey is just white and black mixed together man

>>149355873
>Marceline not on the poster
Argument over!

Yo that s a big ond

>>149355889
Pretty sure Jack is Asian and meant to be Asian. I mean look at him everything about him says asian. There’s an entire episode about Jack needing functional tractional shoes over fashionable shoes. That’s like the most Asian thing I can think of.

>>149355893
Yep

>>149355722
I have never met a nice or well mannered black. Only dumb and loud and rude and entitled ones.

>>149353902
Sure thing boss but you gotta realize little racist jokes aren’t explanations or arguments anywhere but on this joke board

>>149353886
Kill that disgusting vampire, yaoi fuckers.

>>149353886
He's literally what my dad looks like

>>149355940
>I mean look at him everything about him says asian
Just like everything about Marceline says white

>>149355920
Thankfully Marcy is overwhelmingly white

>>149354028
Penny could look better... could...

>woke fatigue
I can't believe the racists, misogynists, all-the-phobes, etc. needed a politically correct term to describe themselves.

>>149355920
>Grey is just white and black mixed together man
do you not know how skin works, do you?
white and black mixed together is brown because brown is the natural color of the skin.
blacks have TOO MUCH melanin, whites have TOO LITTLE. in terms of mental illness, black skin is autism and white skin is retardness

I have negro exhaustion

>>149355722
Pattern recognition is not ridiculous, tell your race to stop stabbing people at trackmeets, stealing clothes and stomping on white people's heads and THEN we will consider you to be smart or nice.

>>149355946
Dude that’s so epic man, crazy for you

What race is susan supposed to be?

>>149355960
noooo. think of the fujosisters!

>>149355980
Marcelines human look was revealed like a decade and a half ago. Get over it.

>>149355707
Of course not, but some traditional good white guys in modern media and unsympathetic black villains would be a nice change of pace. Really I’d prefer a white good guy that’s competent and not a joke.
>>149355718
Everyone a little bit racist sometimes, dosen’t mean I’m going to my barbershop and shooting up the place to make it look like the butcher shop.

>>149356005
>Marcelines human look was revealed like a decade and a half ago.
Where

>>149355910
Because people here are choosing to say that "[x]-coded" means that we should be offended that a character is not being portrayed as [x] and that's stupid
Marceline is canonically biracial, that's simply the way the story is. People here are offended by that because they say she is coded as white. My point is that while her personality type is probably *more associated* with white people, there are absolutely black girls who behave and talk like her. It's silly to say "because this trait correlates more with one race than another, we should be upset when this trait appears outside its typical race in media". Not every representation in media has to act like a median member of their race.

What race is bubblegum princess supposed to be?

>>149356017
>Marceline is canonically biracial, that's simply the way the story is.
Nah

>>149355983
You are not seeing things clearly if you really think you have never met a nice black person. I’m not going to say there aren’t other problems, but it reflects poorly on you more than them if you really don’t know or believe in the idea of a friendly black person

>>149356017
Yep. Sensible stuff

>>149356022
Nazi

Hey whitey you know you’re not suzerain to black people, right?

>>149356025
I mean anon, at this point denying that she's biracial is literally you insisting that your headcanon is real. Do that if you want but that's tumblr-tier autism

>>149356035
I'm sorry to say, we can't step into your imagination where they all live. Outside there's only drooling dumbfucks, wannabe gangshooters, and Karmelo Anthony supporters. That's your entire demographic now.

>>149356035
Racists see everybody as a potential threat. If they dont have the same color skin they do. And they usually see other races commiting crime to be why they are fearful of said race. As its confirming their beliefs of that entire race being violent. So they dont want races in cartoons to be shown as being good guys they want them to be depicted as they really are which is violent animal villans. You could see why a character like marceline being black may make them upset as marceline is a kinda good role model in general.

>>149356062
>>149353948

>>149355715
That just means you're normal anon
Anti-wokesters are the most obnoxious people on the world

>>149356075
Your race's factual average IQ is 70, btw.
Numbers are Raycis too

>>149356062
I know plenty of nice black people. You can live in your world, I didn’t have to fake anything to get along with these people. I’m white by the way, you gotta get your thinking right and quit relying on blind guessing shit you get wrong all the time

>>149356073
Yeah they can’t stand this shit.

>>149356087
>if you disagree with me that means you're black
at least it's a variation on "if you disagree with me that means you're a tranny"

>>149355668
>making white character's stupid
buenos dias senor blanco

>>149356058
She's an immortal demon vampire, the race of her human mother is basically irrelevant when she looks 100% like her demon dad and there's nothing biracial about her

And we're talking about a setting where Joshua gave birth to Jake by an alien implanting venom in his head, so there's nothing that confirms Marcy is genetically related to her "mom" at all (who was originally voiced by Rebecca Sugar)

>>149356017
>there are absolutely black girls who behave and talk like her
because they are influenced by murricans. simple as
the real issue here is that murricabs refused to accept thibgs in terms of nationality, they always cope with black this, white that.
like bitch, murricans mixed with blacks and created these mulattos that went on to influence everything on their culture. What's even more ironic for murricans is that they created these mulattos but unlike other countries in the new world like Mexico or Brazil, murricans denied mulattos their identity as part white and part black opting instead for the 1% rule.

Marceline is an american. there is no difference between white americans and black americans for they all at the end of day still retarded.

>>149353646
Literally who?

>>149356087
See how the racist thinks that intelligence is mainly a flat stat that can be applicable to the millions of people of that race. I bet when this anon sees a smart black person in fictional settings like cyborg, or storm that they get mad about it because it's unrealistic to them to even entertain the idea. If anons like this wrote stories they would make each race inferior in intelligence to their own race which is kinda boring.

You know you have a problem when you literally think anonymous people you can’t see must be black because their posts are against yours. You don’t even need the race to be there to decide you’re talking to your racial enemy. The amount of false positives by you stupid racists really goes to show you’re ass at knowing who’s who and you can’t even properly assign your racism to members of the race itself

>>149356109
This.

>>149355994
No, the Belmonts

>>149355433
>>149355486
What's wrong with being gay? Can't someone be racist and gay? I don't get it.

>>149356108
Anon this is, again, tumblr-tier denialism. Even if you wanted to deny what has been canonically stated and say that Marceline is only genetically related to her father, even then you'd have to say that well she's not white either, she's some demon thing

Right but you know you have autism so you prefer things to be strictly simple, and thinking too much irritates you, your doctor explained this. Just remember to recognize your symptoms when it’s happening okay

>>149356155
>Anon this is, again, tumblr-tier denialism
It's not denialism, it's pointing out a very sloppy tumblr retcon of an objectively observably white character

>she's not white either, she's some demon thing
If fish can be black, demon things can be white

>>149356128
What's the y axis?

>>149356124
Yeah I saw black klansman too it was good until the stupid ending. Like seriously what the hell was that?

This arguments stupid because if marceline or penny were white then there's no problem to be had? Or would the pol people just find someone else to be mad about?

>>149356175
No, it really is tumblr-tier denialism. You are looking at what the show is telling you, getting mad at it for weird reasons related to racial politics, and choosing to deny reality. That is autism, plain and simple. You can deny it all you want, but it is what it is.

>>149355993
White

>>149356202
So can you post a white girl that looks like susan?

>>149355993
Amazon

>>149356197
Haven’t seen it, plenty of users in this board have a problem being unable to properly think or communicate because they just get frustrated and resort to making up some false racial claim about them

>>149356201
>No, it really is tumblr-tier denialism.
Can't point out lunacy without describing it
>You are looking at what the show is telling you, getting mad at it for weird reasons related to racial politics, and choosing to deny reality.
Just like the showrunners looked at Marcy, got mad at her for weird reasons related to racial politics, chose to deny reality, and said she's non-white, you're getting it

>>149356140
aah nice

What race is huntress wizard?

>>149356209
NTA but one of those weird times when I know where my fetish came from

>>149356224
They didn’t get mad

>>149354264
>Honestly Gohan was more Black coded than piccolo.
Gohan is fucking Chinese.

>>149356237
We need more strong muscular women represented in cartoons

Nightwing becoming brown because he was established as having gypsy blood at some random point.

Flame princess is black

>>149356240
Were you in the room when it happened?

>>149356218
Oh you’d probably like it until the stupid ending. It’s a Spike Lee movie about police getting intel trying to take down the KKK by just calling them and pretending to be fans but the lead investigator the one calling on the phone is black.

>>149356249
Americans do this themselves with claiming Native American ancestry, cracks me up

>>149356245
Anon...
Gohan is half Monkey

>>149356245
Don’t be stupid Gohan was a boy who’s mother loved him and made him study instead of fighting with a gang and his dad was always gone. He wasn’t abandoned because he was a girl.

>>149356233
since she's plant-based do you think her pussy is a flower

>>149356263
No, were you? I’m sure there’s all sorts of feelings up in the studios, but without any incentive or belief that black people shouldn’t be on television, you don’t have to get mad to throw one in there or retcon in some token representation. They literally have a partially black audience, so they’re just going to war with the army they have. They make shows for the people who watch them, some of them are black. Doesn’t require any anger

>>149356265
Ha. That works with all sorts of people

>>149356292
>you don’t have to get mad to throw one in there or retcon in some token representation
Yeah you kinda do, this sort of thing is only done by people who are mad at white people by default, even if they're white themselves

>>149356144
>What's wrong with being gay? Can't someone be racist and gay? I don't get it.
biologicall— who am I kidding? most peopñe that oppose it do it because religion.
since I was talking murricans...
everyone sees the world under a nationality point of view. "immigrants are bad because they are not our nationality" abd all that. murricans are the only exception. they prefer genetics over culture. what does this have to do with your post, you ask? well, everything. you see, it's true that murricans prefer genetics over nationality but the things is that they worship the bible and the bible says Adam and Eve populated the world and all that shit. so in their subconscious they think "woah, god's chosen genes." the result is that they protect everything in that book. this explains why they are homophobic even at gays that are racist and why they love israel more than their own nationality: they read their bible under genetical lenses
make no mistake, the SJWs simply replaced the bible with the greater good but they still see things under the same lenses which is why you have characters like marceline/darwin or the idea that piccolo is black in the first place

>>149356323
Honestly it’s a good movie until the end of where it just stupidly ends. I get he was trying to go with symbolism with the ending being what it was, but the rest of the movie was grounded so it just sucked and was a complete tone shift. Like imagine you’re watching Blade or the Dark knight and it ends with a dream sequence that’s just dumb.

Johnny Storm is Black. And Jimmy Olsen. And Batgirl and Commissioner Gordon.

>>149356337
Says who, you? If you’re making a show for a class of multicultural children, you’re going to put include that in the show unless you have a prior reason not to, and the prior reasons not to just aren’t there for them. You think a kindergarten teacher has to get mad to pick the ABC chart that has some black and asian people and whatever on it? They don’t

>>149356381
>Says who, you?
Says the source I posted
>If you’re making a show for a class of multicultural children, you’re going to put include that in the show unless you have a prior reason not to
Well AT sure didn't care about that sort of thing until the tumblr race obsessed era got into full swing

Ariel is black. April O Neil is black. Starfire is black.

>>149356398
The source you posted does not in fact say anything of the sort

>>149356430
It in fact does, your inability to read it is your problem

>>149356398
Yeah your chart doesn’t show that, and yes they added more token representation with time. So what

>>149356450
You’re arguing that some people you don’t know must be statistically racist, because you are pissed they added it so a character was superficially half black

Hank Hill is woke and black

>>149356462
>Yeah your chart doesn’t show that
Yeah it does
>and yes they added more token representation with time. So what
Underage

>>149356475
I'm just pointing out that people making cartoons are pissed at white people

>>149356450
No, you literally have reading comprehension problems. You claim that people only put token representation in media if they're mad at white people by default, even if they're white themselves. The image you posted just shows that white liberals have out-group bias. This does not actually show that these white liberals are therefore mad at other white people, and it definitely doesn't show anything about the shows you're discussing. I realize that you have a particular narrative you've had pounded into your head over the years and that this is a meme board so it's pointless to expect actual reasonable discussion, but what you posted does not actually support your statement.

How did chuds lose this thread so hard

>>149356517
Shut up, BWC lover.

>>149356262
Is that why she was so fat?

>>149354598
Darwin was obviously black behind the character but Penny in gumball never looked or sounded black.

>>149356494
Uh huh so you’re really angry about a theory you have about how some people you don’t know think.

>>149356262
She's a jeet

>>149354921
Marceline's mom in the show is mixed with straight hair. Her dad has zero blackness to him at all. So it doesn't make much sense for human marceline or the male version of her to have dreads.

>>149356517
because first they got lazy and began thinking "cope and seethe tranny" was a sufficient response to all criticism and then they got old and failed to notice that the culture of the boards were slowly turning against them because they kept acting obnoxious and ridiculous

I want to draw Marceline. Should she be Vampiric or Black?

Mary Jane is black

>>149356537
She isn't fat but she's still a pig bitch

>>149356584
Their strategies are as simple as their ideology. You know they didn’t get into this because they like thinking very much

>>149356594
Make her a Blacula

>[x] character is black because they have a black voice actor chud!
>[x] character has a white VA? uhhh, they're black anyway, you dumb whitie, their VA doesn't matter!

>>149356361
>>149356415
Nice b8

>>149355170
>things get changed
yeah like finn busting a nut to his gf beating up old men and ruining his relationship over it. Or finn randomly getting raped by the creator of adventure time. Stuff just happens fellers

>>149356496
>>149356579
>The image you posted just shows that white liberals have out-group bias. This does not actually show that these white liberals are therefore mad at other white people
Ah but that is a problem of your autism not realizing that the only way for people to prefer other people more than their own is by hating their own, literally abnormal behavior

>>149356602
Learn to spell, tranny

>>149356608
Depends on whatever and opinion. This was never the 1:1 thing you wanted it to be, it’s not a game of rules, people will just say a character is black if they want

>>149356625
Oh yeah what error did I make

>>149356517
>>149356584
None of my hard hitting posts were ever replied to, the defenders of social justice all seemed to prefer to continue to talk to the racist trolls instead, I wonder why that is..

>>149356630
So basically, any single charcter can suddenly be black because uhhh fuck you, everyone is black now

>>149356117
Flame Lord from Adventure Time

>>149356623
Wow putting words in other peoples’ mouths too, I see

>>149356650
Sorry you got blown the fuck out with hard facts

>>149356636
Have that faggy opinions

Every anime character is japanese cause they are subbed lmao

>>149353510
She's supposedly inspired by/based on Jennifer Lopez, with the designer specifically citing "the sexiness of Latin-American women". Take that for what you will.

African Americans feeling like everything belongs to them or specifically speaks to their super special experiences is a form of narcissistic delusion that you find in most low IQ people. If they like something, it must belong to them, and it must be something that they have a unique claim to.

>>149356641
Well there’s canon and then there’s opinion, you can do whatever with either

>>149356630
He has a white VA
>>149353646

>>149356668
I don’t think they think everything ‘belongs’ to them, some of them just prefer things to be black when they do them

>>149356637
highlight these hard-hitting posts that were never replied to, anon
also you might want to consider that you don't need to be into 'social justice' in order to question some of these arguments
frankly I think it is exactly because you guys can't seem to comprehend that you have political enemies outside of SJWs that you're doomed, you're going to keep firing blind and missing the target

>>149356673
Canon is just the opinion of the people currently paid to write shit, it doesn't mean shit, if a new AT writer came on and said "actually Finn was a bag of potatoes all along" only retards would go along with their bullshit

>>149355884
>Darwin sounds more white then Penny
Not even remotely. Darwin sounds conclusively black.

>>149356687
>highlight these hard-hitting posts that were never replied to, anon
That's not my job, they were all parts of reply chains that ended when my arguments became impossible to counter
>also you might want to consider that you don't need to be into 'social justice' in order to question some of these arguments
Sure you're defending the culture war agenda as a hobby, I get it

>>149356608
That was a good episode.

>>149353448 (OP)
He's iranian and looks like a mix between Raoh and Yujiro with Aku's flame eyebrows

>>149356697
Right but saying some character is half clack is fine enough for most people to go by

>>149356607
>Bleh, Finn! Bleh!
>I've come to suck your di- I mean blood!!

>>149356720
lmao okay so you're delusional and full of shit

>>149356705
Not in my country

>>149356739
Sorry I btfo you, try to have more correct beliefs next time

>>149356720
>What's going on in this thread?
>I have made glorious and impossible-to-counter arguments that have destroyed all of my political enemies
>May I see them?
>No

>>149356720
Hey man I’m just for reconciliation

>>149356731
If those people are retards, yeah

>>149356765
Just go back to the posts where you stopped replying to me, they're right above

Alright so sexy Blacula Marceline.
>Fluffy collar
>Corset
Skirt or pants?

>>149356686
The character who does nothing explicitly "black" does not reflect the "black experience" and who was created by some japanese guys for a video game about animal people fighting evil robots has no reason to be assumed as secretly black. If they wanted to make a black woman, they'd just make a black woman. Insisting that she has some secret black essence is either narcissism talking, or it's white guilt in action.

>>149356780
NTA, and also how would anyone know? They can't read your mind

>>149356803
He just reminds them of themselves because he’s a different color from the rest and they used to be enemies but now they’re working together

>>149356819
All of the characters are different colors.

>>149356740
Anime Penny.
But i Like the Classic black-skin Darwin.

>>149356825
Oh, which were we talking about? I thought this was Piccolo.

Piccolo isnt black, he's green

>>149356858
I’ve seen some green black people

>>149356863
And I knew a guy so black he was purple

>>149356874
This shit happens, man!

>>149356816
I think he assumes he’s arguing with one person to him that’s racist and that he has the moral high ground so it’s over Anikan. At least that’s the vibe I’m getting from him very smug I’d say he’s British coded but he dosen’t seem Muslim.

>>149356888
Well I actually am a racist, just not against blacks

>>149356128
Funny it's the most consistent psychology metric, just shows how flimsy the whole field is.

>>149356077
You are not normal if you post on 4chan...

I have stuffed this thread's vagina with the final post. It will now begin to fall off and die off the catalog.

>>149356908
Well if you’re racist to everyone but blacks than you’re giving them special treatment so you would still be racist to them.

>>149356962
2009 called they want their chan culture back

>>149355116
Maybe we should replace it with Black Varnish?

>Ugh! I'm so tired of Anti-wokists! They're such annoying and racist chuds!
The more things change the more they stay the same. This old pic's been proving ever green

>>149356974
What exactly is normal about a website that's userbase uses "fag" as a suffix?

>>149357055
wtf the guy who’s tired of my racism isn’t even a racist, how could this be happening to me?!

Holy cow chuds lost so hard lol

>Holy cow chuds lost so hard lol
Behold, a pigeon shitting on a chess board

Behold, the pigeon!!

>>149357118
What was the prize again? That you can’t stand black piccolo?

>>149353448 (OP)
being black just makes Marceline hotter

>>149357118
Congratulations man, you win believing cartoonists hate you

>>149357133
>Somebody posted the same picture! That means I win!!!
Pigeons man, they're so retarded
>>149357136
Sorry fag boy, I don't play butt pirates. Your AIDS prize is yours and yours alone

Pol lost again damn... they gotta win sometime right?

>>149356970
I give them special treatment because my girlfriends black. The ones I truly hate the most... Indians...

>>149355574
>the thousands of white characters that have existed for decades don't count!

>>149357157
Why do you hate white people so much?

>>149355422
It really just seems like you're trying to justify taking bait. How old is the tweet from?

>>149356982
Shuts up. No you ams doesn't.

>>149357203
Why do you hate cartoon characters that are black?

>Pol lost again damn... they gotta win sometime right?
Sometimes it hurts being right all the time.

>>149357203
I don’t. I don’t have to hate white people not to mind when a black person is in a show

>>149354323
Japanese artists don't deserve the dogpiling, but I'm tired of pretending they are good artists if they don't know how to translate dark skin in their desaturated palette. There's another conversation to be had about how westerners love to coddle up japanese people but americans are too annoying for people to be on their side.

>Pol lost again damn... they gotta win sometime right?
>Sometimes it hurts being right all the time.
Pol keeps fwarking losing. Omg

>>149357216
Please don't dodge the question. What is it about white people that makes you so violently angry? Are you brown, or white yourself? Is it self loathing?

>>149355666
Didn't know Satan was a painter.

>>149357228
They won on election night

>>149357222
Yes you do. Why do you hate us and want us to die? What filled your heart with such vicious racism?

>>149357232
Why do you hate black cartoon characters? Does this make you angry to see? LOOK AT IT.

>>149357245
Nah. Funny thinking though

>Pol lost again damn... they gotta win sometime right?
>Sometimes it hurts being right all the time.
Pol keeps fwarking losing. Omg
We keep losing, but your the one always crying. Why is that?

You know mixed race couples can produce entirely white looking children either

>>149354160
they think anime is made for them

>>149357253
Not as angry as the people who were mad Marcy was white to the point of having to retcon her mom as vaguely brown

>>149357186

Same filename actually >>149357133

You seem to take the pigeon role often lol

>Pol lost again damn... they gotta win sometime right?
>Sometimes it hurts being right all the time.
>Pol keeps fwarking losing. Omg
>We keep losing, but your the one always crying. Why is that?
Another one done. And another one done. Another one bites the dust!

>>149357267
Well they’re watching it, when it’s on it’s just them and the anime. Yeah they’re going to feel like an audience member

I take a look at my enormous PENIS

>>149357268
They weren’t mad

>>149357268
Hows it a retcon?

>>149357261
You know the chuddy is mad when he's desperately searching for wojaks and then saving them with the know your meme filename lmao

>>149357253
Okay, I looked at it.
Now look at this and please explain why it makes you so violently angry? Why does a simple picture make you want to murder white children?

>>149357294
Doesn’t make me angry

>>149357271
Yes, turns out a picture can be used in multiple circumstances if it's appropriate to the context. You're a crying faggot, so it got posted a couple of times. Honestly, If it keeps being accurately used on you, I think you might need to reevaluate your stance.

>>149357294
Oh yeah baby im fuckin livid...

>>149356280
You probably think you sounded clever, but that's the shit you get in Asia all the time. A mother who desperately wants her kid to be smart, and a father who is constantly away on business.

>>149357286
They sure were

>>149357289
Well she was a white character with a white mom and they got mad at white people and turned her ambiguously brown

>Another one done. And another one done. Another one bites the dust!
It's 'another one gone'. You have the entire internet at your disposal, you have no excuse to be making these basic errors. Also please stop shitting on the chess board, it's retarded fag behavior.
>You know the chuddy is mad...
This is how I know you're mad fag boy. No amount of projecting will ever take away the tightening in your chest and the throbbing in your head.

I don't care if Marceline is black or not.
I just hate Retcons.

>>149357338
Is playing victim really a winners strategy

>>149357307
Please don't lie. Just tell everyone here why exactly white family and good white people make you so angry. Just please explain your sick murder fantasies and sexual degeneracy to everyone here. You can't heal from your own racism unless you own up to it and try to improve.

>>149357359
You assuming I'm white is racism on your part

>>149357055
>disliking two extremes means you are actually one extreme!
I feel enlightened now

>>149357366
You're only disliking one extreme tho

>>149357338
A retcon is something retroactive that changes a story. How is her mom being black changing the story? It changes Marcelines race but that doesnt affect anything.

>>149357375
>Retroactive continuity, or retcon for short, is a literary device in fictional story telling whereby facts and events established through the narrative itself are adjusted, ignored, supplemented, or contradicted by a subsequently published work that recontextualizes or breaks continuity with the former.
Early episodes showed her mom as white, later episodes changed her to ambiguously brown, it's pretty simple actually

>>149357366
Not sure if you're actually this retarded or just trying to obfuscate, but the result is the same either way. You do not have equal contempt for both sides, you only ever criticize the reacting side while ignoring or encouraging the leftoid culture warriors. You do this because you are one of them, not the unbiased neutral outsider you try to portray yourself as.

>>149357388
>>149357338
How does this picture show her as white? It shows her as a vampire.

>>149357396
Same way it shows Hunson as white
>It shows her as a vampire.
So it retconned her to an ambiguously brown human then

>>149357390
I have equal contempt for both sides deal with it soijak party.

>>149357388
>you only ever criticize the reacting side while ignoring or encouraging the leftoid culture warriors
Bullshit. There's no legitimate leftoid culture warriors posting on 4chan, so you're not going to see people reacting to them

>>149357338
is this all you have? this is pathetic

>>149357308
Off to the next checkerboard, eh Mr pigeon?

>>149357414
>nooo stop refuting my bad faith arguments with hard facts!! you are pathetic!!
You lost

>>149357405
If anything its more like they just didn't expext retards to focus on some 1x1 bit picture in the background.

>>149357435
I'm sorry you feel bad that I objectively proved your wrong, try making more accurate claims next time

>>149357361
Nah it really doesn’t bother me. I don’t know why you think you have to hate white people to tolerate black people

>>149357427
>>149357396
give me something more then one picture in the background of an early season

>>149357410
>This graph I have says your wrong!
Your conduct proves otherwise leftoid.

Blacula?
Niggula.

>>149357468
Nah

>>149357425
>Ha, I'll turn it back on him!
Typical pigeon behavior

>Nah it really doesn’t bother me
Will the court please not that the defendant's erratic and violent behavior clearly disproves this ridiculous claim. I really don't think you're doing yourself any favors by trying to downplay your own viciously racist world view.

>>149357473
You make a lot of assumptions on people who oppose you. How long before im not only a leftoid but im also a tranny and a redditor. All i know is you saying this makes you right leaning.

>>149357513
Act like a stereotype, get treated like a stereotype. Until you actually demonstrate behavior above a some retarded Redditor, that's exactly how you get treated.

>>149357550
Woah. We got a badass over here.

>>149357559
Trying to downplay the truth is pointless. I'm literally just calling you out for how you behave queeroid.

>>149357507
What erratic and violent behavior?

>>149357550
What conduct proves he’s a leftoid or whatever? You gotta stop randomly assigning shit to people man

>>149357603
>What erratic and violent behavior?!?!
Will the court please take note of "her" violent reaction to a simple question

>>149357645
>Same fagging
Please, try to preserve what little dignity you might still have.

CERVESA CRYSTA

>>149354903
More like dine and waddle

Anyone here like Warhammer 40,000?

>>149353466
Piccolo is a space slug, voiced by a japanese, and white man.

>>149357833
Wrong he's a demon.
All the DB species with pointy ears have demonic origins again.

>>149357847
yeah
and bulma, trunks, and briefs are undergarments in human skin