Why did everyone start hating on Barney?

>>149364614 (OP)
You're going to trigger him. Stop. No. Don't.

my parents wouldn't let me watch barney or wwf because they thought it would make me gay

zoomers don't believe it but late gen x and early millennials, were really unironically edgy

>>149364614 (OP)
>hating on Barney

But you don't hate Barney. What you feel now is mild dislike. When you have spent twelve years watching Barney as a prisoner in your own body, THEN you will begin to know the meaning of hate.

It’s pretty straightforward, OP.
>Has exactly one personality trait
>Design doesn’t lend itself to much expression beyond that one personality trait
>Pretty much designed solely to be really popular with little kids
>Parent who end up having to watch it with said kids get annoyed with it
Barney was, ultimately, just another harmless kids mascot. But unlike other little kids programming like say, Sesame Street, there was very little that appealed to anyone outside that little kid demographic.
Everything that made Barney appealing to little kids was also exactly what made him obnoxious to the parents and older audiences that would inevitably get stuck watching it with said little kids.

>>149364614 (OP)
there's actually a pretty good documentary series about this called "I Love You, You Hate Me" from a couple years ago that goes into both why Barney became a pop culture juggernaut and also became such a magnet for hate

>>149364689
Dude, NO ONE will ever hate Barney as much as Martin Pistorius does.

>>149364614 (OP)
A lot of 90s kids were forced to watch it as part of this forced moral uplifting movement that swept through soccer moms back then. This caused a lot of anger in those kids which in turned caused them to act out around their fathers, uncles and other older people they knew. When those older people saw it they saw how brain dead and frankly blind it was.

>>149364614 (OP)
I think it is because of his human teeth. T rex teeth should be pointy and sharp. Barney looks like he has dentures

>>149364614 (OP)
It was too sugar coated.

>>149364701
No that was Ren and Stimpy, which is why Nick picked up Tiny Toons, Barney was too sugar coated.

Also Power Rangers. that was a show pushed by soccer moms as a moral uplifting movement while everyone just wanted to watch Animaniacs.

It's why Ren and Stimpy was considered bottom of the barrel slop while Tiny Toons was considered a top of the line masterpiece that would've only been reserved for Ghibli features if it were not for Tiny Toons and Animaniacs.

At least with Pokémon everyone just jumped ship to SpongeBob and never looked back due to how badly 4Kids butchered Pokémon.

>proud barneyfag :3

>>149364854
OH N-

It was the disingenuous way Barney would teach kids about manners and kindness. From what I hear Cocomelon is catching the same scrutiny.

>>149364851
>No that was Ren and Stimpy
>ren and Stimpy were considered morally uplifting by soccer moms for their ten and unders
What crack are you even on

>>149364614 (OP)
It was trendy to be an edgelord in the 90's and Barney was safe and non-threatening and so he was an easy target for people to make fun of. Also, if you had a younger sibling or a younger family member who watched the show, it was very clearly targeted to toddlers and very young children (repetitive songs, repetitive dialogue, concepts discussed in extremely simplistic terms, etc.) it was pretty boring to be in the room with them when they were watching it. Also, Baby Bop was annoying as shit.

>>149364614 (OP)
I can understand disliking Barney if you're a parent and your kid watches it constantly or if you have a younger sibling who watches it constantly, but there really isn't any good reason for anyone else to care. I remember singing "Joy to the world, Barney's dead" when I was 5 or 6. I didn't have any reason to hate Barney. I just did what the other kids did.

Inferior to Sesame Street and popular

>>149364614 (OP)
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/149092428/#149092428
I thought your thread looked familiar.

>>149364861
This anon mentioned a really good documentary about this show >>149364689 The show started with good intentions (the woman who created it wanted to make a wholesome educational show for her hyperactive son so he would sit the fuck down for a little while because she was exhausted chasing after him constantly). The show quickly became more of a "product" than a labor of love and a lot of people stared making a lot of money on Barney. The little boy who the show was created for became a drug addict with mental health issues and he flipped out and murdered his neighbor.

>>149364864
>What crack are you even on
pretty sure it's Famicom(or at least someone pretending to be him) trying to stir shit up again with his weird obsession with Animaniacs and Tiny Toons(him describing them as being Ghibli tier masterpieces makes it a dead giveaway)

Barney was a really popular children's show but it also lowered the bar for children's edutainment for just how insipid and saccharine it was. Compared to Sesame Street it was rather mindless. Coupled with how commercialized it was, with Barney dolls being the hot Christmas item, parents became fed up.
But where it really took a turn is in that Barney also came out in a time when the masses were first logging onto the internet. What began as people expressing dissatisfaction with the show and sharing some funny images snowballed into wanting to see him dead with Barney hate becoming one of the earliest memes online. Games like Wolfenstein and DOOM were modded to include Barney as a killable monster. Games were made specifically to kill Barney. You even had anti-Barney conventions where people from the Barney hate groups online met up. Barney was a fad with kids but it was a bigger fad to hate him among older children and even adults.

>>149364861
Luckily Cocomelon is only popular in India (where it's produced, animated and made), The Middle East, Africa and some South East Asian countries, the first world avopid that shit in favor of Game Sack and LGR which appeals to kids as much as adults.
>>149364864
From a 90s parents magazine.
>Tiny Toons, Animaniacs and Disney Afternoon stuff were incredibly influential to the 90’s, Ren & Stimpy, Rocko, and Rugrats on the other hand were considered to be the slop content of that decade by animation critics, the kids who watch these cartoons and the parents of the kids who watch these cartoons. Also funny how some claim that Bart Simpson was influential to the 90’s even though The Simpsons was extremely relevant in the 80s due to the Tracey Ullman shorts.

>>149364929
They are Ghibli tier masterpieces, the parents of the 90s said so.
>>149364946
Barney wasn't as popular as Tiny Toons and Animaniacs however.

Do you think more people would've hated Steven Universe if they found out that the voice actress for Amethyst was also one of the dinos on Barney? What if that fact was more public knowledge?

Considering how hated Barney was back then, and how the stigma was against anyone who watched it, I'm honestly kinda surprised that it doesn't really get brought up as a reason to avoid it, among all the many other reasons, especially since not a whole lot of other people from Barney had particularly successful careers after the show, outside of Demi Lovato and Selena Gomez.

>>149364861
Luckily Cocomelon is only popular in India (where it's produced, animated and made), The Middle East, Africa and some South East Asian countries, the first world avoids that shit in favor of Game Sack and LGR which appeals to kids just as much as adults.
>>149364864
From a 90s parents magazine.
>Tiny Toons, Animaniacs and Disney Afternoon stuff were incredibly influential to the 90’s, Ren & Stimpy, Rocko, and Rugrats on the other hand were considered to be the slop content of that decade by animation critics, the kids who watch these cartoons and the parents of the kids who watch these cartoons. Also funny how some claim that Bart Simpson was influential to the 90’s even though The Simpsons was extremely relevant in the 80s due to the Tracey Ullman shorts.

>>149364952
>Barney wasn't as popular as Tiny Toons and Animaniacs however.
Certainly not better, but from a commercial aspect, I can tell you're talking out of your ass. There's all sorts of sales numbers that showed Barney as one of the big juggernauts of kids' media in the 90s, even being able to stack up against the sales of Disney tapes from back then.

>>149364986
You're looking at tapes and in 1993 they're not showing that they were tapes that outsold those tapes, and How I Spent My Vacation outsold all of those tapes put together 1000 to 1.

Happened one day at the studio.

>>149364986
Don't engage with the sctizo, you can't convince him only ignore him.

>>149365048
Theres no sctizo here, except you.

>>149364672
Was there really some vegetable that was forced to binge Barney?

>>149365951
Yes, his name was Martin Pistorius.

>>149366178
That was a Mad TV skit and those were actors, that wasn't real.

>>149364614 (OP)
Barney was created by a literal soccer mom who was upset that children's entertainment had any thing sad in it, I'm not kidding she literally made something because it was not infantilizing enough that Mickey mouse was too edgy. I think her kids ended up on heroin by the way. But what upsets people about Barney and Friends is just a complete lack of any emotions outside fake happiness

>>149366349
Barney was created for a mom's very young son because a We Sing tape was the only thing she could find that her kid liked and she couldn't finds another tape like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h23AW1bCy0A
Not a soccer mom at all, the kid was 2 so it had to be clean.

>>149366373
So her child had autism also I cannot deal with that voice in that video, I grew up playing magic the gathering and that voice even irritates me someone who has spent their entire lives working at comic cons and hanging around furries

>>149366349
>I think her kids ended up on heroin by the way.
Never happened, Dare made sure of it, her kid that inspired Barney robbed a liquor store but that was it, and because of that guy's ties with the creation of Barney he only got 90 days of community service rather then 20 years behind bars which weas the original sentence.

>>149366392
I grew up with Looney Tunes, Tiny Toons and Animaniacs, so I wasn't sugar coated.

>>149364614 (OP)
>you just made me remember that one video where a hank hill impersonator shoots barney in the face for being a communist
>isn’t that video lost media or something?

>>149364851
>Also Power Rangers. that was a show pushed by soccer moms as a moral uplifting movement while everyone just wanted to watch Animaniacs.
Soccer moms hater power rangers and tried to get it cancelled for promoting violence and inspiring kids to do fake karate. That was also part of the appeal to kids- soccer moms hated it, therefore it must be awesome.

>>149364630
The Nintendo Generation invented the school shooting (mass shooting style. Bringing a gun to school and shooting a single kid has been part of black culture since at least the 1980s. If you respect the culture, you respect that black people are designed to kill black people.)

>>149364966
That 90s Parent Magazine was written by a retard. 1990 starts Simpsonmania which falls smack dab in the middle of Turtlemania. I used to have a bootleg shirt of Bart wearing Raphael's mask and holding sais. If only they worked in a reference to Desert Storm, it would've been the most 1991 shirt possible.

>>149364614 (OP)
I had a classmate back in 4th grade whose gimmick was having "panic attacks" towards Barney, Sesame Street, Teletubbies, etc.

>>149367083
What, like whenever a clip from those shows played he started hyperventilating?

>>149364614 (OP)
I guarantee everyone who was working on a show that might have a good younger demographic were told by execs "Hey, this Barney show is doing numbers! Why can't your show do that?"

>>149364929
>Famicom.
Oh boy Shiddy Diddy humiliation time!
>>149365048
Debunked, and you probably look like this
>>149364854

>>149367139
If I recall correctly, that's part of the reason why the Sesame Street crew had a grudge against Barne back then. After over 20 years of being the top-rated PBS kids show, Barney dethroned them shortly after it premiered, and CTW was scared of Sesame falling into irrelevance, so they had to make all these changes such as revisng the format to be more rote and repetitive, as well as adding new Muppet characters, including focusing a lot more on Elmo.

>>149367097
Just mentioning Barney would have him scream and stuff. It was clearly an act though.

>>149365010
VHS tapes were cool, they had that weird dial up sound on certain players. And you could record on them. I remember taping entire blocks of Adult Swim in the 2000s but I never held on to those tapes.

>>149365048
>t. even bigger schizo

>>149367206
Damn. I remember a kid like that except he did it with the forbidden show

>>149364679
This. It's no different from parents giving their kids a tablet to look at nonsensical videos, but parents back then had to watch Barney with their kids on their TVs.

I only saw Barney from the commercials for the VHS tapes, which aired outside of PBS.

Most of it wasn't different from the other tape ads I saw for Ray Stevens, Dorf on Golf, other children's song compliations... but then it hit the end.

>Barney, to the tune of "This Old Man": "I love you, you love me, we're a happy family...."
>slow-mo of random child hugging Barney
>Random child VO: "I love you, Barney!"

i was just a teenager and this should have been just one of the not-for-me things to ignore on TV... but the manipulativeness of this part triggered the fuck out of me. like I was watching some brainwashing attempt or something.

And indeed it was, it was manufacturing popularity for a commercial product. That's what ads are for.

our whole society has been built on ads for over a century... we've accepted them as normal background noise, but every so often one sticks out and hits a nerve I guess.

Man imagine if TMS made a Barney cartoon.

>>149364614 (OP)
We were living in a soulless age of decadence, and as a result the rising counter culture (which became the popular culture) was really angry and had an instinctual mistrust and aversion towards anything suspiciously happy or positive. Barney became a poster child representing all retarded corporate saccharine slop that was rotting children’s minds. Now that everyone is poor and depressed all the time, it’s harder to make kids understand the rebellious mindset that would look at a smiling purple dinosaur plushie and be revulsed.

But the best way to sum it up is that kids and teens thought Barney was cringe. That opinion snowballed until it was pretty much commonly accepted, even among the intended target demographic. So even toddlers hated Barney, because their older siblings and even other kids’ shows like Animaniacs taught them to hate Barney.


I remember being a kid and terrified that other kids were gonna call me a baby for watching baby shows. So I avoided Barney like the plague and watched older kid shows, but eventually started hiding that I even watched any kind of puppetry or animation at all. Whenever my parents walked in the room, I switched the channel from Nickelodeon to some documentary channel like Discovery.

In hindsight, this in itself was an immature attitude.

>>149367037
Only accidentally. The Columbine kids wanted to be the next Unabomber, not the first school shooters. They only had to resort to changing the attack to a mass shooting as a Plan B because their bombs failed. They had brought the guns to pick off any stragglers if Plan A worked.

>>149364614 (OP)
I think a big part of it was because he was a cloying, saccharine T-rex, especially one who came out at a time when Jurassic Park was making dinosaurs cool again. Had he been a sheep or a flamingo, I don't think he would've gotten so much hate.

They also could've made Barney less unpopular if he were more of a fun but paternal type with a more rounded personality. Maybe he could've made the occasional sardonic comment or gotten stern when a kid got too out of line.

>>149367208
It wouldn't have mattered, so don't feel bad about it. VHS tapes degrade over time unless kept in ideal conditions. Once digital formats came out, there was a huge boom in analog media transfer. The old tapes were rotting, and the old machines were likely to malfunction and destroy the tapes themselves.

>>149367011
Other way around.
Soccer moms LOVED Power Rangers and tried to get it to be 100% American made for promoting violence and inspiring kids to do fake karate and removing any Japanese footage. That was also part of the repellent to kids and normies- soccer moms loved it, therefore it must be awful as kids and normie adults just wanted to watch Animaniacs.
>>149367037
>>149367787
No, that was PC gamers, Nintendo had a censorship policy to prevent that from happening.
>>149367077
1990 started with Tiny Toons Mania.
>>149367194
And Animaniacs incarnated them both.
>>149367237
Only in India and the rest of the 3rd world, in the US and the rest of the first world it's all about the Switch (formally the DS/3DS).

>>149367184
Unrelated and doesn't look like that.

>>149364916
>mom wants the tv to parent her kid instead of her putting in the work to do it herself
>can’t find a show that does it well enough
>decides to make her own
>devotes all her time and energy to that, to the point she doesn’t even muster the bare minimum level of parenting as other neglectful pro tv moms of her age
>loses sight of the original vision and becomes consumed by greed
>kid is scarred for life

Yep. That kinda thing was a part of it. Most people at that time weren’t aware that that was what was going on behind the scenes on Barney specifically, of course. But the societal fear “maybe it’s a bad idea to just plop kids in front of a screen and hope for the best. maybe it’ll just make them crazy and stupid instead of well behaved and smart like its supposed to,” was an attitude that started at the very rise of tv itself, and was still around enough to impact the attitude toward Barney. It evolved into the concern over tablet kids.

Sesame Street was the other side of the coin, an example of a show that was trying to do the same thing as Barney but was doing it right, or at least was accepted as not doing as shitty of a job.

>>149364630
>*Pumped up Kicks playing in the background*

>>149368110
Thank god Tiny Toons came out around the same time and fixed Barney's damages.

>>149368329
Yep.

>>149364614 (OP)
It was a way for older siblings to mess with younger ones.

Fun fact: Barney was made by the same production company as Wishbone: Lyrick Studios. Those were the only two shows that they made inhouse, and they were even filmed on the same lot.

Richard Leach (who was the Barney creator's father-in-law) approved the project, thinking it would be the same commercial success that Barney was. While that didn't really happen, it was much more critically successful, and is remembered much more fondly, with almost no one hating it.

It's clear that if Lyrick didn't have the capital from the all the Barney revenue, they might not have had the confidence in greenlighting such an ambitious show.

So you have Barney to thank for Wishbone existing.

>>149364614 (OP)
https://youtu.be/W23LKD9Z1hw?t=3

A real lack of Barney parody pics ITT

>>149364614 (OP)
Hello I am Emo Barney and I am very depressed

>>149364614 (OP)
He never should have broken in to other people's houses and force innocent people to have sex with him


https://www.bitchute.com/video/fV3a1Uw8xPfq/

>>149370925
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdvuC7bc2pI

Bag, that was swell

>>149364957
>Do you think more people would've hated Steven Universe if they found out that the voice actress for Amethyst was also one of the dinos on Barney?
I didn't like Barney as a kid but holding a grudge against an actor because they were in a show you hated growing up sounds like something an insane person would do.

>>149371239
Well, it certainly doesn't seem out of the question. When you consider the people who sparked that initial wave of Barney hate spread all sorts of rumors about the people who worked on the show, stuff like saying the guy who played Barney was a pedo, or how he hid drugs in his tail or cussed out a kid on live TV, and how those rumors spread like wildfire. It even went as far as the kids on the show being bullied at school, or a few people even sending death threats to the adult Barney crew, it's obvious that a lot of people clearly didn't care about the well-being of anyone who put the show together at all.

>>149371163
>It's me, Barney and I have three testicles

>>149369537
Will Barney and the rest of the Barney Bunch have an orgy with the parodies?

>>149364614 (OP)
Hello my name is Drew Pickles and I am 0% straight. Who is this sexy dinosaur, he reminds me of Barney. I want to fuck him in the ass. I will unzip my pants and insert my three hundred mile long cock and ram it into his asshole and it will be hot explosion of semen and saliva. And it will sound like HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHABAGHABAGHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHABAGHABAGHABAG. Then I will get Arthur involved and we'll have a big orgy and it will sound like FSHFSHSHIAOHFOINWKNFUIEBIUFENFJESWOSHSOWHSSOWHSSHWOEIEIEIEIEIEIEIEIEIEIE BAG. That was fucking swell.

>>149364614 (OP)
I was forced to watch him in my special ed class in high school.

>>149373190
Hey that is very super sexy, can we join the orgy?

>>149373243
End your life
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>>149373276
Us too. I can multiply many times just to make the orgy bigger. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Just thinking about it. It is making all my mile long cocks hard at the same time.

>>149373276
>>149373312
Sure. The more the merrier. It will be the biggest orgy. It will be swell.

>>149364614 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf04duu9m2A

I remember reading a series (A SERIES) of anti-Barney fanfics. The first entry was only eight or ten paragraphs and was obviously silly stuff where Barney orders children to destroy society but the later volumes described how the global Barney reigme was resisted and destroyed and attempts by secret Barny cultists to restore it.

Related.

>>149373417
Is it any good? If so, link?

So today I was in church (because my mother made me) and I didn't feel like going because I knew there'd be this one Barneyfag that would make me end up going on the Barney-hating rampage that I do today. I surveyed the church to see where he was so I knew I could confront him and tell him not to do that again. What do you know, that disgusting Barney-lover and his family was right there at one of the exits, just looking out at everyone as if they think he's so good. Before the closing hymn was sung, I walked out of the church to find them. I told them that their son should stop watching Barney and Friends. I told them that it wasn't right for him to be of the age he was and still watch Barney and Friends. Because seriously, he really shouldn't. He watched it pretty much religiously, like 2 hours every day when I was in high school (the one he watched the most was Be My Valentine, Love Barney). I told them that my dad wouldn't let me get Super Princess Peach for the Nintendo DS because he thought it was a girl's game, and if I was in this Barneyfag's situation and I wanted something Barney-related, I would've done the same here. I didn't try to insult him or anything, I didn't resort to name-calling, I just said what was going on and why it should matter, just the bare facts. They were wondering if he did watch Barney, pretty much pretending that they didn't know about his habits, but I told them whoever's responsible, to stop it, including the special ed department at his school. We went our separate ways and I got that out of my system, thankfully.

To be honest, I felt better after giving them a piece of my mind. Now they know how their actions affect others who are disturbed by their offspring's actions. Good thing, too. I just needed to vent real hard after keeping it in for so long.

So yeah, that was all I really wanted to say, I just wanted to share my experience today. If anybody who's reading this wants to share their experiences with me, go right ahead.

>>149373417
Did any of them end with Drew Pickles and Ronald McDonald start big global orgy?

>>149373452
Oh yay the barneyfag larper is going to reply to this with more derpibooru links and freak out and reply "bleed, die, etc"
How predictable.

>>149373452
Drink bleach
http://img.youtube.com/vi/GX_G6DiXplw/maxresdefault.jpg

>>149373480
>>149373486
I beat you to your punch. You're super predictable.

>>149367037
This is so fucking american braindead.

So, this guy :iconmusicandmovies1993: has decided to block me simply because he thinks I'm generalizing and because he thinks I'm attacking him, even though quite a few times he's resorted to using caps-lock for all the words in his posts when I haven't done that. I haven't made any death threats on his well-being, I was just making observations on his hypocrisy.
Since he decided to block me, I'm gonna reply to some of the posts he made:

"Well, you are one to talk! How do I know you don't watch childish stuff, Hmm? And another thing, I noticed you don't have as many friends or watchers as I do! I can assume that you don't have any friends, because of the way you treat people who you don't know anything about."
Well, if I did, I wouldn't try to claim I like a show made for a preschooler mindset yet try to make myself look like one manly motherfucker. Also, the only reason you have more watchers and friends than I have is because MLP is a magnet for autists galore, and of course they'll flock sheep in herds to channels like yours.

"You are assuming we all like Barney, just because a few faggots like it. You are acting like an ass, my friend. I can really see why not a lot of people like you."
Oh, boy, here we go with the "Not all bronies" argument again, aren't you? I don't feel like I need to explain this, I feel Anti-Brony Coalition has summed up why this argument doesn't work.

I don't really need to say much more here except that the fact that he and :iconbestbarneyfan: decided to block me only proves that they are unable to form intelligent enough arguments to take apart mine. They realize they're wrong and so decide to take the easy way out and block me. If you really need to, block this user, but I wouldn't say I'm all for it unless it's needed.

EDIT (8/21/14):
Please ignore this post, we have since made up and we've pretty much put this whole issue behind us now.
This will only stay up as a means of archiving history.

>>149373543
Swallow lead
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>>149373480
No they were edgy and self-serious which is why I cringe a bit at the memory.

>>149373447
I read it 20 years ago so I don't think I can give a sensible opnion on it, plus I don't remember much of it other than a few things. I already described the very short first story.

-The second story opens with a flashback where Barney is hatched by a normal T-rex who considered him freakish and considered killing him but before she could he sang his infamous song which caused the extinction of the dinosaurs

I can't remember why he re-emerges in human society millions of years later.

-The hero is a young boy who starts out the story part of Barney's dystopia of brainwashed child slaves

-Barney somehow impregnates little girls with monsterious minions (not personally, I think) who burst out of their bodies, killing them.

-The inciting incident leading to the boy hero turning against the Barney society is his sister being taken away into what he later discovers is the monster-birthing program. She is saved from this deadly fate.

-Barney is killed when his mother is somehow transported through time or magically conjured or something and she eats him.

-In the third story, set years later when the hero is an adult society is slowly recovering from the Barney dystopia but one of the adults has a secret Barney shrine with child-sized blankets and dolls and shit. It is eventually discovered and burned on the spot, treated like it's a satanic alter

-In this story the hero is aided by a mysterious robed figure who turns out to be a new and improved version of the Barney minions; he's a cool lizard-man instead of gross thing and he isn't evil (obviously not what Barney wanted). He turns out to be his sister's "son" since the new process doesn't kill the host like the old one, retconing her being saved from the breeding program in the second story.

I THINK there were the three parts of it. I don't recall a fourth part.

>>149373462
Meant to reply to this one rather than >>149373480

I oaf'd

>>149373677
Honestly, depending on how it's written, that could be kino

>>149364701
i think gen alpha should do the same if you consider how unfathomably faggy everything has become. but judging by at least a good majoritu of the comments over at instagram reels, i do think that's starting to happen.

>>149364903
lot of threads are like this
not sure why, we've had other threads with good thorough discussion on the topic
usually when you have repeat threads like this it's someone trying to fish for art of a character they like, but that's not the case here
probably just autism

>>149364614 (OP)
I LOVED Barney as a shota. Why did people hate him?

>>149374325
Too sugar coated.

>>149373243
>>149373452
>>149373543
kys

>>149374325
please kill yourself

>>149364916
>>149368110
It wasn't because she neglected him. It's because by middle/high school his classmates found out he was "Barney lady's kid" and his entire life turned into a rampant bullying frenzy a la Jake Lloyd

>>149364614 (OP)
For some reason Barney triggers retards

>>149373243
Why are in special ed class? Are you retarded?

For some reason a Barbey expy gets killed at the end of Mafia

For some reason a Barney expy gets killed at the end of Mafia

>>149364614 (OP)
there's multiple reasons why people didn't/don't like barney

1. he was annoying even by children show standards
2. his design was a tad bit off putting, like it's not just the teeth but it's also the eyes and the smoothness of the suit that look kinda jarring
3. he really didn't teach much of anything outside of kindness/the lessons he was teaching were very dated even at the time of airing
4. the way the show is presented is very much extremely infantile rather then actually wanting to help them learn, even small children could smell the bullshit from a mile away

I think the biggest issue with barney is that it really was just a shameless product Ie "BE HAPPY HAVE HAPPY THOUGHTS DON'T THINK JUST COSUME BUY THE TOY BUY THE CD" unlike say, sesame street that didn't shy away from negative things and instead taught kids how to deal with those feelings in a much more healthy way (though sesame street is a shameless cash grab these days)

>>149375675
my tard cousin liked him, he grew up to be an extremely obnoxious asshole make of that what you will.

>>149370860
there's a delta rune joke there.

>>149364614 (OP)
It wasn’t like other educational shows like sesame street where kids would still watch as they get older, or something like tom and jerry that has no value but people have been growing up on since the 40s. As soon as kids got old enough it didn’t appeal to them they hated it, and back in the day it was pushed heavily. Most kids remember Barney as the show they were forced to watch with a younger sibling and be told they used to love it when they complained.

>>149376153
It's like John K was the only person trying to stop these cash grabs from ever happening, live action programing never had it's savorer like cartoons did.
>>149376323
Tom and Jerry had a shit ton of value, it was also designed for movie going adults.

>>149373911
It is. Gen Alpha is shaping up to be another idgaf generation. The conditions are right, with the preceding generation being a bunch of whiny moralfags and politics becoming increasingly authoritarian. They’re going to enter their rebellious teen years hating all these no-fun fuckers.

>>149364793
Those teeth were a specific design choice. There are some concept art sketches of the Barney character from before they built the suit and that version had triangle teeth but they decided that it looked "too scary." The final version was also fatter and more cartoony-looking.

>>149376976
But authortarianism is Based amoung the young.
Or has the culture wars lied to me?

>>149367206
>>149367220
We had a retarded kid in class who if you mentioned Spongebob he would chase you.
Also his name was Austin so if you called him "Austin Boston" he would fly into a rage.

>>149364614 (OP)
Gem thread

>>149364630
This could've been prevented. Two bullies kids that needed someone to grab them by the shoulders, look in their eyes, and violently beat the killer instincts out of them. Because of them, I couldn't dress like Neo.

>>149373243
>>149373452
>>149373543
kys

>>149364679
Then why doesn't Paw Patrol or Teletubbies get the same level of hatred?

>>149364614 (OP)
Smells like cheese! mt

>>149377260
That’s zoomers, not alphas. The oldest alphas are still only 15. And from what I’m seeing, all this puritanical soccer mom behaviour the zoomers have been engaging in? They laugh at it. They find it stupid. And they are starting to work out how easy and fun it is to upset them. Wise fwom your gwave, old /b/.

>>149378112
>tfw my son is Gen Alpha and my Niece is Gen Beta

>>149378056
Paw Patrol has structure and a plot, everyone has a emotion other then happy, plus Japan like it.

Meanwhile, Teletubbies was even more hated then Barney.

>>149378112

>>149364854
Still disappointed in the relative lack of Barney art on the usual sites. There's been some good stuff though.
Is that a Bottlebear sticker or someone else?

>>149364851
I know you're that one crazy that tries to industry American kids watch Saze-san but you're in crack Power Rangers kicked butt because they literally kicked butt.

GO GO POWER RANGERS!!!!!

>>149378208
His wife Betty is more popular, even has a clinic named after her.

>>149364946
No one used the Internet until like 2009

>>149378245
Thats because of piracy, theres no official outlet Sazae-San is being streamed on.... Yet.

Also... it was Animaniacs that kicked butt because they literally kicked butt, not Power Rangers, that was low effort soccer mom slop.

IT'S TIME FOR ANIMANIACS!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7Q4tPTLUVk

>>149378266
In western countries.
Some of the very earliest episodes are being streamed on Amazon Prime Japan but thats it.

>>149368064
You're thinking of Adventure Time. Kids have always loved that show and live action adventures like Smart Guy. Adults appreciated Adventure Time due not only it's groundbreaking televised media but multimedia tie ins across video games and comic books.

>>149368329
Tiny Toons didn't even air then

>>149378174
Much like boomers, zoomers will try to falsely claim newer generations have identical beliefs to them to sound right

>>149378302
Tiny Toons first aired in 1990, Barney proper by the same time.
They're were a few tapes in 1989 but Tiny Toons fixed the damages Barney did.

>>149364614 (OP)
Just thought Barney was boring as fuck

>>149378294
That has never been the case.
Adventure Time outside of it's cult following has always been panned.

>>149364620
You had biker parents.

There was this piece of shit from Indianapolis who filmed child porn of his son. One of those videos involved the kid getting raped in a Barney costume and another involved getting stomped on within a wrestling ring.

>>149364854
Also, if you're still here -
What do you think about the new series?
I think that they somehow made his design more cursed ...and not in a good way.
>>149378246
Kek.

>>149364614 (OP)

I just liked the ironic humor behind hating a preschool icon. Favorite memories were watching Barney parodies on newgrounds.

>>149365951
Yes, Martin Pistorius. He fell in a vegetable state at 12, was able to think but eventually stopped doing it until he was forced to watch Barney reruns. His hatred for Barney was so strong that he regained the will to think, move his eyes and being aware of his surroundings just to be able tell how long it would take for the Barney episodes to end.

>>149379011
Damn that sounds awful

two plus two is four
two plus two is four
two plus two is four

>>149377616
They did you a favor

Reminds me, did any other anons get asked by obnoxious wannabe bullies, if they "had a list"?

>>149378069
YOU'LL BE FUCKING DEFENESTRATED

>>149364701
It was 90s adults who were mad about Barney, I don't think kids were that bothered by him. It was just another show for babies. You didn't see Sesame Street or even Teletubbies bothering adults as much.

>>149364851
>butchered Pokemon

It's practically the same show as the Japanese version besides a few silly edits. You can complain about what they did to the Mewtwo movie, but 4kids or not 4kids that movie is still resolved by Pokemon fucking crying.

JOY TO THE WORLD
THAT BARNEY'S DEAD
WE BARBEQUED HIS HEAD!

>>149373417
>>149373677
I found it https://purpleabyss.neocities.org/dotb2a

>>149379011
>>149379367
That was a Mad TV segment, that wasn't real.
>>149380522
Not the case, if that were the case everyone wouldn't hate it as much back in the day.

Wasn't hating the show popular among college students for some reason?

>>149364614 (OP)
>alt.barney.dinosaur.die.die.die

>>149364986

Hard to imagine that 5 of those on the list were over well over 30+ years old at that point. The newest thing on there besides barney was nemo and that came out in the early 80s.

>>149367194

Man, they pushed/forced elmo so hard back then.

>>149378294

> Adults appreciated Adventure Time due not only it's groundbreaking televised media

Wat?

>>149378069
YOU'LL BE FUCKING DEFENESTRATED

>>149368110
You have to understand the environment, man. Sesame Street and Mr. Roger's Neighborhood has been ridiculously wild successes, creating measurable improvements in the educational outcomes of children starting with late Boomers (raised by exhausted PTSD-addled/alcoholic GI Gen parents), extending through Gen-X (latchkey kids or raised by drug addicts) and early Millennials. Essentially they solved a massive public health/public education issue when American parents (especially the kind who would park their kid in front of a TV to babysit them) were emotionally or practically incapable of imparting that knowledge and those values. Their increasing reach is probably a big part of the decline in criminality starting in the early 90s. (Also part of why it's such a shame that the Middle Eastern version is getting defunded.)
So with their effectiveness being proven, it's no wonder someone would want to build something similar, updated for 90s kids.

>>149368064
>Soccer moms LOVED Power Rangers and tried to get it to be 100% American made for promoting violence and inspiring kids to do fake karate and removing any Japanese footage. That was also part of the repellent to kids and normies- soccer moms loved it, therefore it must be awful as kids and normie adults just wanted to watch Animaniacs.
I think you might be insane.

>>149368620
I guess Ghost Writer is chopped liver.

WITH IMAGINATION AND THE BARNEY BAG
LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN MAKE TODAY, YEAH
LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN MAKE TODAY

>>149377616
>Bullied kids
Bullshit. They were the bullies. I knew kids like that. The ones who'd bully and bother everyone, one of the bastards jumped me with a fork once. Remember, bullies are almost always outcasts too.

>>149367139
I’ve heard that a Fox executive admitted that the entire reason behind “Fox Cubhouse” was to find their own Barney that they could merchandise the hell out of.

>>149382978
And here are the candidates.

>>149383050
is that JayJay the Jetplane?

>>149364614 (OP)
I’ve been wondering if all that hatred and violence towards a harmless children’s character was part of a psyop. Like they were trying to make kids hate cute and innocent things, to shape them into killing machines? You know the trope "American Kirby is hardcore," how they would replace cute artwork from video games for something more angsty and ugly? Remember that during the peak of anti-Barney sentiment, Columbine happened, and then 9/11 and the subsequent wars, and other mass shootings.

>>149382978
>>149383050
Fox had The Simpsons for that, and The Simpsons was designed to entertain first and hawk shit... We get back to you on that one.

>>149383178
I mean you could probably convince /pol/ to believe that if you wanted a laugh, but I think the simple truth about the Barney is that it was just so saccharine it came off as disingenuous even to relatively young kids.

>>149380704
>this is an ancient relic of the internet that was transferred to the same site making website where gay faggots have faux-nostalgia for the old internet

>>149373243
>actually admitting you were a short bus loser
KWAB

>>149383072
Nope, that’s Budgie the Little Helicopter (created by Sarah Ferguson, Prince Andrew’s ex.)

>>149364679
The Sesame Street comparison is very apt. While Sesame Street tried to teach larger issues like death of a family friend to young children, Barney was just saccharine "be nice to everyone" slop.

>>149364614 (OP)
Lee Thread.
Unironically though, as I understand it prior to Barney "toddlers entertainment" wasn't a thing.
You either understood Sesame Street's more "experimental" segments and the puppets and all that or you didn't, meanwhile Barney distilled appealing to babies in the most pure form, in a way you can say AI slop and Cocomellon are it's descendants.

THIS IS YOUR MINDSET

>>149383575
Barney actually did have an episode about death near the end of its run, albeit it was about Baby Bop mourning her flower wilting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm3M2VZG3CM

>>149364614 (OP)
Barney was the 90s Cocomelon