Thread 149368067

Ever want to read Homestuck and never got around to it? Started back in the day but never finished? Read it all but never thought about it for years? It doesn't matter, because we'll be going through the whole shitpost epic, together.

Think of this as a book club, where we'll be reading a set of pages each week, and then share all the highs and lows together.

To read Homestuck today you'll need to use the unofficial collection from here:
https://homestuck.giovanh.com/unofficial-homestuck-collection/

>IMPORTANT UPDATE:
If you want to use the original uncensored version of the Asset Pack, you'll need to grab it from the Internet Archive here: https://archive.org/details/asset-pack-v-1-the-unofficial-homestuck-collection
You may also want to consider seeking out an older version of the Unofficial Homestuck Collection if you run into compatibility issues, such as https://github.com/GiovanH/unofficial-homestuck-collection/releases/tag/V1.0.0

In this first week we'll be reading through and talking about Acts 1 and 2. For people who know later plot developments, try and keep your mouth shut. Don't even spoiler it, because we all know that if you see spoiler'd text or images you look at them right away and they don't hide shit.

Week 1 (Sat 19th July): Acts 1 and 2 [pg 1 - 758] <<-- (You) are here
Week 2 (Sat 26th July): Act 3 and Intermission [pg 759 - 1357]
Week 3 (Sat 2nd August): Act 4 [pg 1358 - 1988]
Week 4 (Sat 9th August): Act 5-1 [pg 1989 - 2625]
Week 5 (Sat 16th August): Act 5-2 and Cascade [pg 2626 to 4112]
Week 6 (Sat 23rd August): Acts 6-1 and 6-2 [pg 4113 to 4816]
Week 7 (Sat 30th August): Acts 6-3 and 6-4 [pg 4817 to 5511]
Week 8 (Sat 6th September): Act 6-5 [pg 5512 to 6242]
Week 9 (Sat 13th September): Acts 6-6-1 to 6-6-3 [pg 6243 to 6920]
Week 10 (Sat 20th September): Acts 6-6-4 to the END [pg 6920 to 8130]

>EDITORIAL:
Homestuck threads on every single 4chan board are still being actively persecuted and terrorized by honeypot-era 4chan's abusive staff, so keep in mind that this event will most likely need to migrate and move from site to site in order to go off without a hitch. We're also looking into the idea of hosting a recurring stream on Cytube or a similar site to make things more social, more organized and to demystify the individual reading component. This thing is going to happen no matter who interferes, and that should be taken as a warning.

>>149368067 (OP)
Posting to get into the thread before deletion.

Posting before deletion to say that Con Air needed an animated series.

I kindly invite you all, instead of participating so much in this sunken ship, instead to come, to our Homestuck General on 8-chan dot moe /co/'s

Our thread is very nice, I mean it genuinely.

>>149368067 (OP)
Bumping because is intersting but right now I'm not home.

>>149368067 (OP)
Readin bump

OP here. Out for a walk. I’ll keep an eye on the thread and get back to the command station when it picks up.

Thanks, but I doubt I'll read this thing again any time soon.

Bump

>>149368429
That site is still alive?

>>149371458
Yes. What questions do you have about it? We're cultivating a new community there! (Seriously)

So did the Jannitors banned all the Homestucks or what happened here...?

>>149373329
Nothing really to be said. What's the point of this thread? A "read-along" only.. Nothing is actually being posted. Did OP really think people would crack open the collection and just start posting about it? Who would do this?

>>149373440
I'm not the OP of the first two threads. I think it's going to be necessary to set up a Cytube of my UFHSC, but I haven't used a streaming service in years and never Cytube, so someone would need to show me how.

Act 2 just feels so nostalgic for me man. John exploring his house after getting teleported to bumfuck nowhere, Dave's introduction, Nanny exposition, like I remember and still do hate Act 1 a lot for being such a geeky boring drag but Act 2 gave me the will to read 8000 pages of this shit.

>>149368067 (OP)
Dang I didn't know the fall of flash screwed over Homestuck this badly

desu I cant be fucked to re-read this whole doorstopper again, but I will admit it is comfy to sit around the discussions

>>149373440
Yeah, who'd start reading a comic and posting about that comic on /co/ - Comics and Cartoons? I think OP kinda wants something like those tweet-along things people did a while ago?

>>149374661
I think you need Act 1 for Act 2 to work. I've thought a lot about what a fan spin off of the early stages like that would be.

Finn and Marcy... Dave and Terezi... John and Vriska...

Why can't my boys ever get their grey skin girls?

>>149373483
Can't speak for how it'd work best for UFHSC, but this guide for streaming movies with a media player and then OBS might work for it https://rentry.org/kino-for-dummies

Do you forgive her for all she's done wrong?

>>149376199
This drawing style looks familiar, reminds me of a fan adventure. It's taking me back...

>>149376199
>done wrong

>>149376396
>kills countless
>blinds one
>cripples another
>no repentance

>>149373440
>>149375402
>>149376199
>>149376396
>>149376620
WHO ARE THESE CHARACTERS AND WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO DO WITH HOMESTUCK ACT 1???

>>149376697
>expecting anyone to care about made up rules for a thread only people who know about later acts will care about in the first place
No one new enters the Homestuck "fandom" (or what passes for a "fandom") any more. It's all 30+ oldies who want to reminisce about a comic that finished a decade ago, and they started reading a decade before that.

This is why caring about a structured group effort to bring in new readers is ultimately doomed. If you weren't there, then Homestuck is just a super long and confusing comic that, when you don't have the blinding effect of newness, hype, and discussion, falls off almost immediately.

If you do go back and read it, you'll find that all the signs of Homestuck's later decline was already there by Act 2, and well on its way by Act 3.

TL;DR: No one cares about spoilers because the only people who would care already read it 10 yeas ago.

>>149376745
There is a 90% chance this person is literally a spy sent to demoralize us.

>>149368067 (OP)
>>149368085
>>149368429
fuck off you shlll faggot

>>149376987
No. If someone wants to read Homestuck they're absolutely fine doing it. But you can't re-create the "oh no! what happens next?" feeling of reading it at the time because we know what happens next.
Someone reading it for the first time asking any question about anything can only get two responses "keep reading and you find out" or "we never find out."

>>149377030
Why is everything you say about Homestuck a thoroughly thought-out, deeply intentional but also completely hollow and incompetent insult? It’s like the opposite of a platitude. You’re whining about reread value when what you’re saying could literally apply to anything. Fuck off.

>>149377030
There's also the third answer of "you forgot this throwaway line 3000 pages back that explains the current events" that the community reading it as it was being made would inevitably dredge up. Homestuck had a shitload of random plot threads, most of which didn't end up being tied up well, but enough that one person likely couldn't keep track of them. That's about the best outcome of a thread like this for a hypothetical newly attracted reader.

>>149368429
I get a 404 error when I try to go there.

OP should stop fucking around being a retarded newfag already and actually start a storytime.

Homestuck is something that's more fun to "have read once" a long time ago than it is to actually read in the here and now.

Also, despite being introduced early the trolls ruined everything, and even people who like them agree which is why they're always drawn or depicted as just funny looking normal people.

>>149377222
This

I've been weirdly obsessed with the opening pages all night. This is the title drop on page 82, and this is the text that comes with it.

>The streets are empty. Wind skims the voids keeping neighbors apart, as if grazing the hollow of a cut reed, or say, a plundered mailbox. A familiar note is produced. It's the one Desolation plays to keep its instrument in tune.

>It is your thirteenth birthday, and as with all twelve preceding it, something feels missing from your life. The game presently eluding you is only the latest sleight of hand in the repertoire of an unseen riddler, one to engender a sense not of mirth, but of lack. His coarse schemes are those less of a prankster than a common pickpocket. His riddle is Absence itself. It is a mystery dispersing altogether, like the moon's faint reflection, with even one pebble of inquiry dropped in its black well. It is the most diabolical riddle of all.

>"Absence diminishes little passions and increases great ones, as wind extinguishes candles and fans a fire." -Walt Whitman

>Yes, you are certain Walt Whitman said that. One hundred percent positive.

>You have a feeling it's going to be a long day.

I can't help but wonder what Homestuck was at this point to Hussie when he wrote this, and gave it this title card, with the windchimes in the background, and the plane flying through an endless blue sky.

Now I can't help but keep thinking what it would have been if it had this concept and feeling carried on for another several hundred pages.

https://homestuck.kici.moe/story/82

>>149377587
>I can't help but wonder what Homestuck was at this point to Hussie when he wrote this
From the beginning it was always meant to be essentially a mythology.
Problem Sleuth was sort of the trial run for it, with the goofy detective becoming the legendary arbitrator and all that. Homestuck was more planned out to be 8 kids pass through an apocalypse, defeat Omni-Satan, and become gods. The base structure of it was definitely in his mind, the fact that Sburb was meant to be a system of universal life and death was in from the start.
Of course, the tale grew in the telling, and he lost his own thread so badly that by the time he got to the other four kids everyone was so invested in what we already had that the plate was overfull.

Quit advertising that moe link. If Homestuck was taboo now, what will happen if they deem it irrepostable even when we DO get an update because of off-chan linking?

>>149377613
I don't want to get all "youtube video essay" but I think it's interesting that Hussie wrote that page, and had this idea in the year before Arcade Fire's The Suburbs released. I don't think he was making some point about the distance between people in an increasingly digital age, and all that stuff, at least not consciously, but it was there a bit I think when he designed each of the four kid's living arrangements.

It's interesting that you say that about a digital mythology. It almost makes me think of the series Pantheon. They even end kinda similarly.

What's fun to notice is that the trolls aren't in the contact list at this point, when I'm sure they were later on?

I guess what I'm kinda interested in now is, if there was a lost thread and Hussie losing track of the original story, can we sort of pick out this original story from the one we got? Sort of like how scholars will rebuild foundational myths from extant fragments from similar cultures?

What IS ur-Homestuck?

>>149377624
As if anything of value gets posted during those update threads.

>>149377587
The whole idea was lost when character relationships became first priority, so sometime when the trolls were revealed and the whole romance stuff sprung up. He already had the whole game planned out by this moment from the Denizens and other cryptic Skaia stuff where that windchime feeling starts to show up again but that all gets derailed and then permanently stained by extremely stupid shit like Caliborn's fanfiction or Dave getting cucked by Gamzee. He stops taking its themes seriously somewhere around Act 4 and then gives up completely in Act 6. He brings it all back sometimes but that's only when it's a literal requirement for the story to progress that was already planned from the very start, like John playing his planet's organ (semi-ruined by the Calliope narration though).

>>149377931
>What's fun to notice is that the trolls aren't in the contact list at this point, when I'm sure they were later on?
They were at least added afterwards.

I wonder at what point did the trolls turn from being literally internet trolls to being aliens, and then the whole can of worms that that opened up.

Looking through pic related, makes me feel all giddy at how everything fit together, and how cool all the pieces would have come together, and then reminded of what it eventually turned out to be.

>>149377931
>What IS ur-Homestuck?
Ur-Homestuck would've had the trolls as considerably less significant entities. Their role was exclusively in making the current universe, they weren't supposed to be major players in it. All of them were meant to be like Karkat: angry, unhappy, impotent, desperate. The failed state of the old gods, to be saved and supplanted by the new, like Greece and Rome.
The Alpha Kids were supposed to be introduced much sooner and be much more relevant. But the journey to The Scratch was so fucking long that it didn't coalesce in any way that made them welcome.
The Cherubs were probably supposed to enter the story much earlier. Their status as interplanetary guardians and destroyers sets up Lord English as a dark, fallen god, but they had to be reintroduced way later because, again, the story became All Trolls All The Time.
Imagine if Act 5 was as short as Act 4 and the trolls were compressed entirely to a flashback montage where we're left to imagine how they handled their session. Do you think Act 6 with its kids would've been easier to get into? I do.

>>149378018
Yeah. The trolls as, basically, an intermission, would have been much better for pacing and theming.

I wonder, once this is over, and if anyone is up for it, it would be possible to sort of "re-cut" Homestuck into something closer to the "Ur-Homestuck"?

But the first part that you said here:
>The failed state of the old gods, to be saved and supplanted by the new, like Greece and Rome.
Really is the theme of Pantheon, and it's even said explicitly in the opening scene and the final words.
After a brief teacher-talk about the Titans and the Olympians, Maddie says:
>"No one else noticed when the world ended"
And the end is the new world being made.

>>149377994
Interesting. Hussie always seemed like a smart guy who was wasted on the life choices he took.

>>149378053
The ending of Pantheon, if people want to see what I'm talking about.
https://youtu.be/PIhVbjCzFhY?list=PLp2fqhxj7ruVTX6-HepqFAj6EZe-Tr0al&t=2597

This is pretty much How I'd imagine an end of Ur-Homestuck to be.

>>149378053
>The trolls as, basically, an intermission, would have been much better for pacing and theming.
So would the Alpha kids, for that matter. A mirror image of the OG intermission with the betas giving the alphas commands at the terminals (eventually realizing they're the guardians) would have been unmitigated kino.

>>149378083
Damn it, you're right.

ITT: /co/ turns Homestuck into Xenogears/Saga

Just replace:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wen4uyD6be0
With:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW5Y6CluAM0

>>149378128
>we'll never get a 2X MENTAL BREAKDOWN COMBO with Dave discovering Bro's UNIRONIC PUPPET ENJOYMENT and Rose discovering Mom's GENUINE WIZARD INTEREST
>we got lame and boring muh trauma conversation instead

>>149378148
>UNIRONIC PUPPET ENJOYMENT
ACTUALLY A MASSIVE DWEEB
NOT COOL AT ALL

>>149378083
Not to mention shit like the horrorterrors if your dream self dies could have had more done with.

>>149378053
>>149378078
>Pantheon
Is it a good show?

>>149378347
Season 1: YES
Season 2: Ye- no! YES!

Season 1 is fantastic, Season 2 goes from a good into, to really lame, to coming in clutch at the very end.

>>149378414
Ok so it's twin peaks

>>149378432
And like Twin Peaks there's a valley of dump in-between.

>>149378432
lol kinda

Like, there's a lot of little twists on convention in S1 that makes a typical cliche actually become a major breaking-off point for the bad guy's plans.
In S2's massive dip it's all just the cliches.

Still, it really is one of the best overall shows /co/ has ever had. I don't think it'll be huge, but somewhere there's a kid out there who watched this, became a massive fan, and will make something amazing one day.

>>149378184
>>149378148
>>149378083
>>149378053
>>149378018

>>149378018
How do you think the Carapacian royalty would be handled? I'd have liked if the kids had to interact with them more, if they're meant to be gods of the new world of beings it makes sense to me that the game would force them to learn something about governance and this could be a good counterpoint to the trolls who presumably just killed everyone.

Though I do enjoy Jack's plot up to a point after which he means nothing.

What do you guys consider "Ur-Homestuck?" Anything up to the first recap?

>>149379139
Only the first two pages
The comic was ruined when the characters were named

>>149379139
Being serious? Probably only the first two acts. I think that's when audience participation fully ended and Hussie started going off on his own, with disastrous consequences.

>>149379196
based
True chads go without naming

Corn!

>>149378432
I just pirated the whole series. Is the pilot episode (S01E00) worth watching?

I drew John some time ago for drawing practice.

>>149379379
My download started at Episode 1. The pilot might be the first episode. Does it start with Maddy in class and then running out?

>>149379390
SOUL

>>149379421
It starts with a bird, then with some sort of a small factory.

>>149379139
Acts 1, 2, and 3. What Hussie had in mind before even falling into a rhythm. What he intended with Sburb and the kids as a whole before Scratch took the wheel.
Act 4 is where he starts to drift and Act 5 is where he definitively goes off the hypothetical course.
But even in Act 3 we had this.

>>149379442
Don't remember that... As far as I know it was only the 18 episodes. That scene doesn't even ring a bell at all to be honest...
Did you get the right thing? It's an animated series, right? Title is a statue shedding skin?

A screenshot might job my memory though.

>>149379470
I've forgotten so much about early Homestuck. This is in the lab under Rose's house, right?

>>149379520
Close enough. Technically the Skaianet Laboratory is a short distance from her home, connected by an underground path to Rose's mausoleum.

>>149377613
I'm not sure if Hussie had the scratch always planned because Dad (and to a lesser extend Bec) are already such pattern breakers with the guardians. I think it was an early idea (that he had when he made >>149379470 since you can see the 8 player session) but like the trolls, he came up with it while making it and so Dad is like John's username

>>149379478
Anon, I was talking about Twin Peaks...

>>149379470
Remember, millions upon millions of people played SBURB.

>>149368067 (OP)
So wait we read the 700 pages this week and then talk about it next week? So what do we talk about today?

>>149379655
Oh... In that case, yes.
(Pilot is the best part by the way and Lynch thought so too)

>>149379627
I always thought that the logo depicted the number of "true players," but that's only since seeing the Troll's Sburb logo, so who knows what I'd have thought if asked this at the time.

But I always saw the Guardians as kinda... "Cosmic" anyway, if that makes sense?

Not looking forward to this thread getting deleted. It's super interesting to think and talk about, even if nothing actually happens from it. An "ur Homestuck" AU would be super fun to work on and work though even if it wouldn't be anything like the original, both in format and scope.

>>149379702
I don't know and I don't really think the OP does either.

>>149379708
>Pilot is the best part by the way and Lynch thought so too
Should I watch it before or after the main series, then?

>>149379768
Before. The pilot is the first episode.

>>149368067 (OP)
>If you want to use the original uncensored version

should I? First time reader here, no idea what are you talking about

>>149379785
I don't know anything about anything being censored. The collection has a feature where you can turn on stuff that was changed in the comic but something the collection itself censored? I don't know about that. I'd say just get V2

>>149379785
The censoring just hides things that you wouldn't have seen at that point if you were reading through in the present. If you have New Reader enabled this is done automatically.

>>149379950
No, he's talking about how OP says that the asset-pack V2 is censoring Homestuck somehow

>>149378018
What role would you see for the carapacians in Ur-Homestuck? Would the main kids have had more dealings with them as the game shapes them to be gods of the new world or do you think Jack was always going to put an end to the "normal game" taking place on Skaia?

>>149380010
Which I picked up from someone last thread. Remember, the newer versions of the UHSC have in-built censorship options and trigger warnings that you have to turn off yourself, and they don’t even decensor everything. I got my hands on Asset Pack 1 and the first version of the collection and I see no problems with everyone using those instead of the newer ones.

It looks like I’m going to be the one who runs the Cytube streams, but I still don’t actually know how to do it because Cytube doesn’t have a clear setup guide like Picarto does.

>>149380060
>trigger warnings that you have to turn off yourself
Bro it tells you what the comic has when you first start the collection for the first time. THAT is what you're upset by? Bro

>>149380087
Bro…

>>149377176
try this:

8DUMBASSchanSTUPIDmoeSHITcoSHITcatalogSTUPIDhtml

DUMBASS = remove, example: hDUMBASSi = hi

STUPID = .
SHIT = /

Did you solved this incredibly hard puzzle now?

>>149377624
I would maybe if you guys would stop insisting on weird methods of having a General /co/ Homestuck here disguised as Not-A-General Hometuck Thread Totally, and just stop being such a bunch of cucks and move to a place where we're allowed to talk about Homestuck. This isn't like people abandoning twitter to go to bluesky because Elon made a funny gesture. This is literally we are not welcome here. We're getting banned for making these threads (literally).

>>149380133
>We're getting banned for making these threads (literally).
AIEEEEE STOP SENDING YOUR MINIONS AFTER US BIG-JOEL-SAMAAAA PLEASE I CONCEDE UNCLE UNCLE

>>149380133
If only Vriska could hypnotize the hypnoautist into becoming the homestuck equivalent of the Perispammer.

>>149380172
We could ask him.

>>149380146
Unfortunately, this is something that is happening.

>>149380183
If someone knows how they should.

>>149380199
No, I know. I'm making fun of him because he's obviously a non-fan trying to demoralize us and his argument is stupid. I'm not capitulating to their bullshit.

>>149380274
I literally don't know what you're talking about or what you're referring to. Joel is a Jannitor?

>>149380300
I've spoken colloquially in the past about how Sarah Z, her cronies, Octopimp, and a bunch of breadtubers have been forming a cabal over the past couple of years that can, if you're being charitable, be considered anti-Homestuck, and can, if you're suspicious, be accused of spearheading online efforts to censor and suffocate Homestuck and Hussie as an act of bitchy bully gang violence. I genuinely believe that Joel has plants here.

/co/ throwing out 7/8 of Homestuck to talk about its own alternate take is hilarious considering most cut it off only slightly before the end.

>>149380391
I feel like people who say the Trolls ruined the comic and that there was too much focus on them are completely stupid. No, the problem isn't the Trolls; the problem is that the story dragged on too long.

>>149380416
Of course it dragged on. You've just introduced 12 new primary characters.

>>149379470
I wonder if the intermission is to blame for this, the story had to be expanded to justify it being a part of it

>>149380499
Most of them just die, the fuck are you talking about.

>>149380416
This is only a problem because hussie eventually developed a resistance to the amphetamines he was using throughout 2010 and 2011

>>149380416
...because of the trolls. That's why it dragged on for so long: TWENTY-FUCKING-FOUR TROLLS. 24!

>>149380561
>STOP DOING COMPLICATED THING! I AM TOO STUPID!

>>149380560
I thiink it was less a resistance and more of a crash, taking too much adderall for too long will turn you into a paranoid raving psychotic, which he was then and still is today

Somewhat off topic, what is your favorite underlings? I like Basilisks and Ogres.

>>149380577
ay yo hussie, how is subverting expectations all the time working out for you

wait, Deltarune made HOW MUCH money??

>>149380584
The amber kraken that bro fights in jack: ascend looked pretty cool
Imps ogres and basilisks all have similar faces which ties them together, basically none of the other enemies look like that though

>>149380577
Complexity by itself is not a positive. Especially not when Hussie made it too complex for even himself to keep track of.

>>149380596
I can't help but feel like Gerson's "Irony will poison your story" was directed at Hussie personally.

>>149380561
Out of those 24 trolls only, like, 7 are important

>>149380620
70,000 * $20 = $1,400,000

>>149380624
It absolutely was. Hussie is hilarious for being an example of someone who put their entire fortune into irony, only for it to be immediately revealed as a worthless and degrading mentality. Toby's single secret to success was him being willing to be sincere. Hussie couldn't be sincere to save his own life.

>>149380642
Hussie is too Gen X to be entirely genuine.

>>149380642
It's why there had to be the scene were John has to accept that Con Air is shit ackshually.

>>149380662
Worse than just Gen X, he's a west Mass new england boy. They're a real special breed of dull and sneering, padded by tons of family money and big-fish-little-pong syndrome.

>>149380561
Yeah the dancestors were unjustifiable
Delete them, give aranea's lines to feferi and meenah's lines to eridan and homestuck would be improved
if anything it makes MORE sense for feferi to fill aranea's roll in the story:
life players are better healers than light players
the girl who literally came up with the idea for dreambubbles would be a better dreambubble guide
the fushiablood would obviously make more sense to take a heel-turn and take the fight to the condesce
meenah doesn't do anything but absorb screen time and be occasionally funny and eridan is better at/more deserving of both

>>149380672
exactly, Homestuck had to devolve into "actually we're all miserable, hate each other, hate everything we once loved, and have no hope for a better future, and no wonder or whimsy for the extremely magical setting we're in"

>>149380684
No see that would require actual writing and planning, instead of being a druggy egotist who thinks he's god's gift and can shit out anything that crawled into his amphetamine-fried brain

>>149380689
>"Well, if you look at it seriously, Bro is kinda ab-"
He has a fight where he uses a puppet as a weapon, then flies away on a rocket. Fuck off with that.

>>149380714
Kek this
We're expected to take Dave being thrown down the stairs seriously but not Jade living with a dog on an island for a decade

>>149380728
or Rose making constant suicide threats to Mom
just insane tonal dissonance

>>149380714
I wish I got to raise myself almost alone with a shitload of weapons instead of food. Dream

>>149380684
I'm starting to think the Dancestor is more about how much the fandom gives attention to them than their actual role in the comic.
I can't remember a single instance of Horuss saying a single line outside the Meenah flashes.

>>149380747
Why did you change your name Guy?
Why is your name "lovecraft’s cat"? Is it to avoid saying "Nigger"? Are you scared of saying "Nigger" out loud?

>>149380752
that was literally the point, to sell fucking merch by reintroducing the EXACT SAME TROLLS, just remixed. insanely lazy just to make a cheap dollar and generate controversy for mocking online groups.

>>149380728
Also it superimposes Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff onto the scene. Oh yeah. So serious.

>>149380642
You just reminded me about someone talking about MGS3, and they say that the camp is all there to disarm you for the moments when it hits hard.

>>149380783
Are you spazzing out because my best friend helped make Homestuck, loves Dave, and I have a lot of similarities to him

Just saying, you didn't have to

>>149380878
Answer the question guy.
Why did you change your name?
I need to know.

>>149379708
>But I always saw the Guardians as kinda... "Cosmic" anyway, if that makes sense?

When you consider one of them being exactly that, another pulling ridiculous shit and the last two just doing their thing thats honestly not that insane to start seeing them that way, they always were shown as oddly above the game. [/spoiler]Atleast until Jack kills them all.[/spoiler]

>>149380897
I'm trying to post online without being interrogated about my identity. You trolls have always refused to offer the most inconsequential information like of a thing you like, so weak!

God you're all so insufferable. I hope the mods delete this thread

>>149380605
The Amber Kraken is a beast, I like him too.

>>149380940
And the people in this thread are trying to have a thread without having a schizo like you shoving himself to the conversation, your point is?

>>149380940
You talk like a faggot and your shits all retarded.

>>149380902
Yeah. It's obvious that whatever "rules" there are to the game, it doesn't apply to them. Of course some of it is just because it's funny (like Dad fighting the jailers), but that's still what they do.

Hmmm...
Pyrope ass...

Consider: Sis.

>>149381070
Only if she has a dick

>>149381087
That makes her bro

>>149381087
Stop being gay.

https://youtu.be/sdAwGKk8a4M?si=zfOmcpTo1fYOMm0-

This but John and Dave

>>149381087
Only if she fucks Rose with it.

>>149381095
Its 2025, sisters can have dicks
>>149381102
No
>>149381142
Sure

>>149380976
Good lord this is one of the most faggoty things I’ve ever seen.
>>149380983
Obviously you know that from the projection.

I made 1 comment about Dave, that was enough to trip your blubbering. Homestuck has always been derived from the creativity of me and my artistic connections in part, shut the fuck up and quit tantruming about it.

What's the best early Homestuck song and why is it Doctor?

>>149380689
He did it because the initial premise of Homestuck that we already got to see up till Act 4 was all about the adventure and whatnot so he made up these super stoic characters to detach yourself from caring much about the story's relationships and focus on the whole Sburb thing, it's why the kids are pretty chill with the whole end of the world thing, chill with their family situation, blah blah. Then the wave of Tumblr readers hit, the MAJORITY were obsessed with the characters and their relationships, and Hussie felt like he was screwing them over so he started trying to make the kids more complex and thought provoking thereby making them more depressed and upset over things they were totally cool with before.

It's retarded though and just flat out does not make sense. It happened though, and its also why Homestuck past its ending is all about the drama.

>>149381296
Sburban Jungle is like, THE homestuck song
Doctor is 2nd by a loooong way in those first four albums though

>>149381296
We'd have to define early. Is Skaian Skirmish early? Otherwise I'd go with Black.

>>149381427
Black literally ends the first year, i would call that early.

>>149381365
Yeah. The tumblr crowd didn't get what was happening (Remember they used to say to skip to Act 4 or 5), so they didn't get that the four kids were just adventure game characters. "Why doesn't Bernard from Day of the Tentacle talk about his feelings?"

>"Hey, little buddy? What's up."
>"Oh, nothing Sam. Just thinking and Clara."
>"That girl from college?"
>"Yeah... She's married now... I should have called her back."

>>149381448
Skaian Skirmish is less than a month later, so it's that gray area of "do we mean acts 1 and 2 or anything before act 5 or what".

>>149381365
"All about the drama" feels like an understatement for the Epilogues

>>149381553
And then there's fucking Yiffy.

>>149381633
Fuck Yiffany. Dave called her out on that bullshit and made her cry

>at work
>Want to draw
>Can't
The pain

Honestly, while talking about Homestuck Recobbled Edition is fun, the "brand" is so tainted by this point you'd do better to just turn it into a new creation.

>>149381726
Like a fan adventure, or take the lessons of Homestuck for something new?

Currently at page 47, when does it get good? I'm pretty bored right now

I feel bad for Yiffany. Forced into existence purely to generate controversy and be unwanted and a fetish depot. I feel like you could have had a WAY more interesting plot out of "Someone made ecto kids out of the 8 kids to create super hybrids for some fucked up reason, and now they all have to get to know and help their unexpected kids out"

If you need it to be extra dramatic and uncomfortable, then yes there's incest kids like a Dave/Dirk one, there you go all of that without Jade having to knot Rose

>>149381741
Act 2. Act 1 is pretty much just getting you used to the setting, the way the comic works, etc. It's like a tutorial in a video game. The story ramps up once the video game begins. Give it a bit of patience

>>149381741
Act 2. So about 200 more pages.

>>149381773
>Give it a bit of patience
impossible ask given how deep fried attention spans have become

>>149381764
It already would been less fetishbait by just being the sane way of insemination, not outright going "Yeah, Rose got mounted by Jade for this."

>>149381741
Page 2626

>>149381633
I'll be fucking Yiffy.

>>149381740
Learning the lessons and making something new.

>>149381741
Took me till Act 4. Good luck bro.

>>149381800
Can I make a not-terezi, give her a fantastic ass, and send her off on an adventure?

>>149381831
You can do what you want?!

>>149381844
I can?!

>>149381790
It also opens a lot more roads for different kids, since as-is if you insist on knotting, then Jade can only knock up Rose, Roxy, and Jane to get a super hybrid. Ectobiology allows any pairing. Hell, give Rose and Roxy a kid to get them extra fucked up about their issues.

Something that other series can't replicate is the brilliance of the trolls' design. It's so simple. The humans wear white. The trolls wear black. The kids have light skin. The trolls have dark skin. But then Hussie adds those touches of orange and yellow and it clicks. It's easy to cosplay, it's easy to draw but its every bit as iconic

>>149381884
The Star Trek effect.
>That Vriska cosplayer.
Ah...

>>149381884
The final inspired touch on it all was the colorful blood. It's already a solid design with the ashen skin and the horns, but then you tell the audience that if you brutalize them, they'll glow like a rave: instant design cocaine.

>>149381884
>Simple design.
>But also highly customizable with horns.
>All the blood types to differentiate and add small touches aswell as same habits shared among those colors.
>The canon ones are all very expressive/quirky, so its easy to pick one you really like.

Somehow ended up with the perfect OC bait, no denying that.

>>149381939
I think it's funny that 90% of people who use the cocaine analogy have never done cocaine.

All troll hatred is downstream of not fucking a cosplay slut back in the 10s.

I speak from experience.

God, how I hate those grey skinned shitbags.

>>149381986
The only thing that comes close is the Helluva Boss/Hazbin Hotel Sinners and Imps.

>>149382007
I mean, they still exist. Every homestuck cosplayer I've met has been pretty attractive 'cept for me, of course

>>149382031
Yeah and look how those have taken off similiarly, its all stuff thats very easy to insert yourself into. People go wild for that.

>>149382031
Their design is so unpleasant, though. Whites, blacks, lots of reds; it's exhausting on the eyes. The trolls were smart to combine black clothed with gray skin, so the only color popping is the eyes, horns, and blood. The designs in those shows are upfront visual assault.

One unspoken thing about Homestuck is how much of a time capsule it is of a time that was just ending. It started in the first years after the iPhone (which of course Dave has, the tool), and in the first years of Windows 7 and multimedia computers. The change from 5:4 screens to widescreen. Social media was coming in, and it was started on forum games.

It was perhaps the last time that, to go online, you'd have to be stuck... At h-

>>149381741
Page 229, still bored as fuck

>>149382362
You just met Rose, though

Hmmm...
Demonic Vriska...

>>149382090
Also the entire artistic medium of Adobe Flash is now a time capsule.

>>149382362
The best advice I can give you is to just stick with it. I've given up on the comic at around this point myself before and it took me a few tries. But once you're in, you're IN, y'know?

>>149379470
>sideline the most interesting part of your comic for gay teen drama

>>149382431
Yes, her house was cool.

I finally finished Act 1. I will take a break and give a chance to 2 before deciding to drop it or continue.

>>149380416
the trolls being the ones who made earth and that's why they look like humans was such a cool realisation

>>149382362
The curse should be hitting at any time

>>149382444
Yeah. I can't imagine anything like it ever happening again. It felt like the pinnacle of "the old internet" and all its component parts coming together for one final gasp.

I think that's why I find something kind of melancholy about the whole thing...

>>149382518
For me it hit at the Act 2 closing Flash. I was already half in during the Sburb install though, for some reason that got me really hyped.

>>149382530
> I can't imagine anything like it ever happening again.
i think that's because of how decentralized the net is now
it's no longer a hobby the nerds do to make funny cartoons for their friends
it's just a part of life

>>149382530
Yeah.

>>149382544
The Exiles did it for me, latest once AR started blasting.

>>149382555
It's both decentralised and also incredibly centralised. In a lot of ways the internet is smaller and more consolidated, but also there's less conversation between the nodes. While back then everyone was more spread out but also there was a lot of crossover between each node. You could have "the new Homestuck" happening right now on the same platform you're on and have no idea its even happening, while back then anything big reached everywhere through word of mouth.

I mean, remember how many sites were taken down by Cascade? How fucking hyped did you get when the flash started expanding? I actually screamed and started bouncing in my chair..

It really was the Woodstock of the Internet age.

>>149382640
The expanding flash got me really good, and i only saw it this year.

>>149382640
>spoiler
i am a dirty FAGGOT who read through the whole thing after it ended
but i can appreciate how cool that was at the time, did the actual program expand or was it a trick with the animation having a border that mimicked the site?

>>149382671
IIRC it was the latter. It was hosted on Newgrounds originally.

>>149382671
It could have been either. A lot of Homestuck used tricks and bugs in browsers to do stuff. Flash was discontinued for security reasons as well so it could have just expanded the window. It doesn't really matter.

One thing about Cascade though, and this is something that in hindsight becomes more impressive, is that it was released in 2011.

2011!! Like... What else was even CLOSE to that in 2011?

>>149382671
The flash itself was being played at a higher resolution than the initial window. An HTML5 trick was used to expand that window as it was playing. It was nifty.

>>149382037
>>149382007
i personally blame my love of clown / jester women on this one fem'Gamzee cosplayer i met back in the day.
Full and perky honkers they were,

>>149382777
I think that got patched out of a lot of browsers. Wasn't there a page with fireflies over the screen that didn't work because it kept knocking out the mouse and you couldn't click anything?

>>149382708
> It was hosted on Newgrounds originally.
Until Newgrounds was knocked out by everyone going to get it. Then Rapidshare (those fucking cats!) was knocked out, and megaupload. Even getting it was an adventure because everywhere it was hosted was being put out of action by all the traffic.

I got it by someone on MSN messenger sending it to me

>>149382760
Nothing of course, I mean if homestuck had been on tv then cascade would still have been the greatest end to a season of all time

Something I don't like about homestuck is how most locations are really... boring. They can look cool but they're all just sburb generated. They suffer from last thursdayism, so none of its "history" really matters. It makes places like the skaianet lab way more interesting because it has ACTUAL history

Did they ever finish the physical books?

>>149378053
>I wonder, once this is over, and if anyone is up for it, it would be possible to sort of "re-cut" Homestuck into something closer to the "Ur-Homestuck"?
There have been MSPFAs that re-write the ending to homestuck but none have ever backtracked as far as pre-trolls AFAIK, although such a project attempting to write something as close to Hussie's original vision as possible would be fascinating. It's incredibly bitter to think of how many interesting ideas Homestuck toyed with originally before it got sidetracked into shipping and teen melodrama.
>>149380416
I agree the trolls themselves were far from the problem, they were just the last good thing Homestuck focused on before Hussie starting phoning it all in and pandered to his new crowd of teen girl fans that didn't care about any of the deeper meanings, just "omg karkat is so tsundere for dave!!" and "aaaaiieeee kanaya and rose are so cute together, i'm so progressive for liking a comic with gay people in it!!". Yeah, Hivebent was a massive tangent but I think overall Homestuck was kind of built on something being hinted at for a long time, being introduced, getting rapidly expanded upon while hinting at some other mysterious thing, and so on. The problem with Act 6 onwards isn't that the trolls made the story too distracted from the real plot, it's honestly that post-cascade the "real plot" was unfunny, had no mystery and was really boring and lame to readthrough. Tangents like Caliborn's session and, yes, even meeting the dancestors were honestly a breath of fresh air inbetween wasting more time on the alpha kid's soap opera and the beta kids wasting away becoming gayer and lamer by the second.

>>149383039
Huh. That TA and AG look pretty good.

>>149382994
I'm not sure what you could even compare it to on TV. Picard becoming a Borg? That's all I can think of.

This is forgetting as well that Flash was vector, so it was basically a 15 minute, high definition, short film. In 2011. Mad.

>but none have ever backtracked as far as pre-trolls AFAIK, although such a project attempting to write something as close to Hussie's original vision as possible would be fascinating.
Yeah. Does anyone want to exchange burner email addresses to carry this on?
>. It's incredibly bitter to think of how many interesting ideas Homestuck toyed with originally before it got sidetracked into shipping and teen melodrama.
I know. That's why it has consumed me.

>>149383023
no, they got to the scratch and ended the run
i'm pretty sure someone asked viz if they were going to do more and they pretty much said homestuck ends at cascade so who knows what they were snorting

Callie was a horrible addition. She was annoying, did little but distract from the story, and her big moment happened in the EPILOGUE. Her design was unappealing as well. She should've been introduced earlier, at least, and chopped half the dialogue.

Another part of Cascade that absolutely rocks is the zooming in section in time with the music here.
https://youtu.be/JeQsB2o0Bk0?t=598
That shm-PING shm-PING shm-PING shm-PING
And then the flute comes in!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IT'S SO FUCKING GOOD

>>149383155
They didn't even get that far, the books end when disc 1 ends, right before terezi goofs up and does the miniscratch

>>149383168
God that section was so good.
CASCADE was so fucking good.
Watching the page expand as Jade appeared on screen, taking the whole screen as everything finally came together. An experience that will never be recreated.

>>149383192
just checked, you're right
imagine somebody out there still waiting for the next one, must be rough
it's cool to have all of them now, they go for a like 60 bucks each last i checked

>>149383167
Nah. She's a good twist. I really appreciate them

>>149383168
The timer should have been up there the whole time
I mean the timer reaches 0 only a bit after 10:25 anyway, you'd just have to slightly shorten it before then and it'd fit perfectly

>>149381741
>>149382362
>>149382489
I'm experiencing the same thing with Homestuck that happened to me with Umineko when I tried to read it a few years ago.

It's a series with a monstrous legacy. It's a work that has permanently altered the fandom and the medium in which it was released, and in one way or another, you can't escape its impact and legend, even if you're not interested in the field at hand. I've seen countless photos of Homestuck over the years. People with Homestuck avatars. Hours-long videos about Homestuck and its importance (I never stopped to look at them, but they've come up many times).

I KNOW Homestuck is a monster and that it must have valuable things.

But I'm going into it with the wrong mindset.

Back to Umineko. Umineko opens with a very, very good scene of Kinzo talking to his doctor, but then you jump to Battler, and it's HORROR. I remember the airport scene and the part about the boat ride, and I was just waiting for SOMETHING TO HAPPEN, ANYTHING. At the time, I had no intention of reading Umineko, I just wanted to skim it, and I understood the need to take it so slowly (you need to introduce all its themes and characters, and given that it's a 120-page VN, spending 5 introducing things isn't that big a deal). But I WANTED TO SEE THE CRAZY STUFF.

And the same thing is happening with Homestuck. I'm not reading page by page absorbing the jokes or the bullshit, but rather looking to "just keep going and get to the good stuff." I'm not giving it a fair chance to develop at its own pace, especially when it's a work that grew slowly and wasn't planned as a 10-year apocalypse, but rather, at the beginning, probably just wanted to be a shitpost for the author and his colleagues.

[1/2]

>>149383260

I appreciate that, DESPITE the boredom I find with the stacking and item mechanics, he spends A LOT of time working on them and building more and more jokes into them. Nonsense like "I glued two cakes together, and when I wipe them off in the bathroom, I make a mess" ends with the toilet being ripped out in the garden after 80 pages. It's committing to a joke in a way that's worthy of mention.

I should probably, if not restart Homestuck, at least go back to when they started with the tedious video game and reread that part calmly. It ended up being the part I skimmed the most because I wanted SOMETHING to happen right away.

I was really drawn to the little girl's house, and there were things there (like the exterior architecture, or the pseudo-jump scares in the shadows) that piqued my curiosity.

I willl wait until the end of Act 2 to decide it drop it or continue reading.

[2/2]

>Thread still up.
Mmmm... Maybe...

>>149383235
There's probably one poor s u c k e r who became aware of homestuck via the books, tried to go to the website to find it broken and never found out about the unofficial collection

>>149383260
>>149383292
Love hearing your thoughts, anon

>>149383260
>>149383292
Homestuck is something where you sort of have to just enjoy the ride. When it's all just funny video game antics, enjoy it as that. Don't rush. There's a reason the OP plan is so "slow".

>>149383309
i was gonna say "they can just use the urls" but holy shit you're right
That One Guy who thinks homestuck has been lost to time

>>149383314
Thanks. I didn't think about sharing, but another friend got to read it with me, and since I explain all of this to him...

...well, translating it to english took a while, but hey, I supposed someone would like some insight on someone else first reading experience.

(Not having to wait 12 minutes anymore for every post's captcha helps hahaha)

>>149383336
I will try from now on!

>>149383168
The single greatest moment in all of fiction, to me. Jade with the planets in orbit around her, casually summoning John to her side and sending the battleship through the fourth wall was the absolute peak of media.

>>149383346
First google result for "How to read Homestuck" suggest you use the Unofficial, if that someone so much as barely is invested enough to search they can find it, its far from difficult to access.

>>149383356
You should come to the other chan as well. Its nice, and your thoughts would be appreciated.

>>149383382
One of the coolest moments. My favorite with Jade was when she, while blindfolded, managed to hit the Pinata to enter the game

>>149383168
SOUL

Soulless: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NteXfTI_3c

>>149383387
where?

>>149383415
Outrageous opinion, ichellor is /ourguy/

>>149383382
I feel the same. I wonder if that's how people who saw "I am your father" in the cinema felt?

The worst part of the whole ur Homestuck talk is that Cascade wouldn't be in it.

Spoilers for ending of Homestuck. Do you think Jade spending the 3 years alone on the ship was a good decision? Personally I would have had her loneliness arc earlier in the story and then during the retcon have John teleport her and the golden ship like into the meteor to give her that happy ending

>>149383442
No it's bad, DDOTA handles it way better

>>149383432
I did admittedly like his Intermission 2 more, but thats probably because the models for the humans/trolls are just that little bit uncanny to me.

>>149383416
The 8 Chan moe.

>>149383481
Oh if we're talking favourites than his one where Jade talks to Echidna is so good

>>149383415
this is soul in its own way

>>149383442
i don't get the 3 years thing honestly
what did it add to the story? the meteor stuff was fun, why not just put john and jade there instead?

>>149383519
The fans/audience don't care about John or Jade. It's all about Davekat and Rosemary.
>Captcha: KRARP

>>149383519
Torture porn plus space aspect wank

>>149383519
It's quite simple, act 6 started nearly 3 years after homestuck, and he wanted them to all be the same agish

>>149383537
I think he means Jade being marooned on the ship alone for 3 years in the retcon.

>>149383530
Oh wait you mean in general. It exists so that the character in the comic can catch up to real life. When Cascade happened and Act 5 ended, 2,5 years had passed in real life. So by having the timeskip, both groups of kids can meet up having aged 3 years, both in the comic and outside (well, it took a bit longer in the real world but you get the point)

Andrew has John killed for three years because he was tired of incest shippers.

>>149379785
>>149380010
>>149380060
>>149380087
I'm pretty sure there is censorship in the latest version even if you turn off the profanity filter and other womanchild safe space bullshit. I doubt characters still say retard, and I doubt it has the original skin color joke that was censored even on the actual website at the time after people got triggered.

>>149383582
And yet teases dersecest constantly, what causes this?

>>149383382
God I love it when my girl hits the chuuni pose

>>149383599
>pretty sure
>doubt
>doubt
In other words you're making shit up.

>>149383599
On page 829 Dave still says "faggoty".
Search reveals 38 page results for retard.

>>149383599
you have to choose to censor that yourself

>>149383599
No? There are censor mods but none of them are in the collection by themselves. And yeah, the collection shows PEACHY instead of CAUCASIAN but you can turn that stuff on in the settings (and I mean, that's more than the official website gives you)

Who build the lalonde house? Why is Mom's bedroom a seperate house connected by a super long curved hallway??

>>149383700
Modern Architects.
No, really.

>>149383700
It's on top of a river, next to a cliff, and has the river incorporated into it to create an enormous artificial waterfall. I'm pretty sure it was made just as an architectural exhibit, and Roxy chose to live in it because she's wealthy and eccentric.

>>149383700
Also looking at the house and the room plan, I don't think the Lalonde house has a bathroom?

>>149383442
Jade being alone for any part is just unnecessary narrative cruelty to an already neglected character. Hussie didn't know how to write her as anything other than a plot device so all the times she wasn't being one he just glossed over her. After the fact he addressed criticism of Jade's character as people calling her a "mary sue", obviously trying to frame it as if people were just upset about Jade being a strong female character, but the problem wasn't that Jade was too strong, it's that he never spent enough time on her to give her weaknesses or flaws, he just uses her as a cudgel to push forward other character's arcs. There is literally no reason all the beta kids + the remaining trolls couldn't have chilled on the ship travelling across the yellow yard together, she is a green-sun powered god tier witch of space for christ's sake, if there is literally anyone that should be capable of bringing everyone on the meteor into their universe it should be her. Fuck, she could literally create a portal TO THEM to send a message but hurrrr it's only one way. Problem Sleuth had all it's main characters be together face to face at around the HALFWAY MARK of the comic, in Homestuck the first 4 characters don't get to be together until the very fucking end. And for what! So the main characters of your comic can waste away doing FUCKING NOTHING for thousands of pages just being lame and depressed and gay, having almost no interesting interactions, all for it to then get fucking RETCONNED ANYWAY holy shit act 6 is such a dumpster fire in so many ways

>Be me
>Working on my own MSPAF/Homestuck sequel project because my drive to write my own ending took over my life
>Write it privately for years
>Check one day and realize the total wordcount is now literally longer than Homestuck itself
>Still cannot draw for shit tho
>No one knows it exists and its unknown to the hs fandom
Uhhhh..

>>149383779
There are many hidden auteurs like you in the world

>>149383779
Learn how to draw? MSPFA artstyle isn't that difficult. Good luck

>>149383755
I think it's downstairs like in the far corner

Talking about shipping, are there any ships you like, and how would you have had it play out or would adjust things to make it become canon?

>>149383833
i never really got arasol

>>149368067 (OP)
i didnt realize homestuck was allowed back on co again, i have a reason to come here now

>>149383822
It might be behind the kitchen if you go to the back entrance maybe

>>149383849
Uh, sis, the other comics you like too aren't a good enough reason?

>>149383849
It's uhhh inconsistent. Some threads make it, some get deleted instantly, some make it and then get deleted AFTER 3 DAYS??? We've got alternatives though (8 chan and the /aco/ thread)

>>149383849
>i didnt realize homestuck was allowed back on co again
It's complicated. Mods will delete threads after few minutes, and then leave one up for days.

It's probably just a single mod still seething for some reason. Apparently it's not a western comic or cartoon.

If you were transported back in time to 2009, the beginning of homestuck.
How would you ensure that homestuck becomes popular?

>>149383833
I love EriRoxy

>>149383878
post it on newgrounds

>>149383839
>Ghost girl and the guy hearing the dead.

Pretty simple one if you ask me.

>>149383877
>>149383871
damn, same as before. oh well.
>>149383779
practice and study, they literally have brushed on CSP to imitate Hussie and other autists have made guides to draw like him

>>149383878
I'd tell Hussie the plot of Undertale, just to fuck with Toby Fox.

>>149383897
i guess it works thematically, i just don't see the character connection in the story
did they have a lot of dialog together?

>>149383833
As much as I love John/Vriska you have to basically ignore all the shit she does and pretend she's just a bit mean.

>>149383910
>==> Enter your name
>"Frisk Chara."

>>149383779
Just put it up on AO3, nobody expects pictures there

>>149383919
Johnvris is fun because she's this close to becoming a better person. Yeah she can't undo her past but she can move on and become a better person. But well that didn't work out

>>149383917
Both of them pretty much setup their session in Hivebent, yeah. They only interact a lot less once she's a robot and reunite later while Solluxs out cold during Eridans tantrum.

>>149383954
That'd have to be too genuine. Changing is hard, and painful.

>>149383779
>>149383945
Just put it up anywhere, desu. A reimaginative fanwork longer than the original work itself sounds like a fascinating thing to at least skim through. I'd like for your private life's work to be seen by human eyes at least once.

>>149383910
>"But that's already the plot of my story"

>>149383910
>Anon, this sounds silly and not nearly ironic enough.

>>149383971
But how else am I gonna get my domestic old people spider8reath

>>149383945
>>149383779
Yeah, I'd stick it on my kindle and read through it.

>>149383989
>But how else am I gonna get my domestic old people spider8reath
I want that too, anon, but... Well...

>>149384002
No buts except Vriska's in the kitchen

>>149384015
There's just no way that nerdy human dick can make bluh bluh huge bitch trolls into housewives

>>149383954
It's the only ship that I think could have a genuinely moving pay off in the right hands.

>>149383849
This is such a good picture of Aradia, seeing it boosts her character in my rankings by at least a tier or so. I wish I could draw on this level. >>149383839
They have a good amount of canon interaction. They're both very deeply troubled kids, dealing with their psychic abilities that give them some strengths but also fuck them over mentally a lot, and if it weren't for sburb it would probably just designate them for life-long slavery anyways. They also go through a lot concerning their friends' bullshit(s) but they're a little happier being around eachother. Plus it's the typical nerdy gamer boy + "goth" girl pairing, except this girl comes in both creepy + intimidating flavor and so chipper and excited it's scary in it's own way flavor.

>>149384071
You know you don't need a 10 inch mega dick to pleasure a woman, anon

>>149384076
Karezi could do it
I love how they interact in the meenahbounds, it really feels like KitKat was GROWING AS A PERSON and RESPECTING TEREZI MORE and then after accepting that they would be JUST FRIENDS FOREVERMORE they would PASSIONATELY FALL IN MATESPRISHIP ALL OVER AGAIN possibly after she SAVES HIS LIFE IN THE NICK OF TIME and then they partake in the HUMAN EMOTION OF MARRIAGE and ADOPT SOME HUMAN BABIES

>>149384076
And they even have a song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJWO4WaQh_Y

In addition to the other one which Hussie used for lesbian stuff between her and Terezi. Lame.

>>149383599
Don’t forget that like half of Team Special Olympics is mysteriously absent from even the first version of the asset pack.

>>149383972
>>149383991
https://harvestreports.blogspot.com/2024/07/gaia.html?zx=cd0b3edc5345d72c

It'd take too long to explain the Homestuck connection, but it takes place in a post-Act 7 canon with cosmology that sort of zooms out alot on sburb and skaia's mechanics.

There's over 300K words I haven't uploaded to the site yet however.

>>149384164
Can't view without signing in to blogspot :(

>>149383833
My favorite ships are probably tavriska, johnrose, daverezi, and jadekat.
Tavriska would have simply required both of them happily staying dead together, or coming back to life together and officially starting a relationship.
Johnrose I think would be difficult considering Rose's chemistry with Kanaya(although I personally find rosekan incredibly overrated), but I don't think it would be incredibly difficult believably writing those two breaking things off and rose realizing she has feelings for john, and vice versa.
Daverezi and jadekat are simply ships that basically were going to happen and should have happened until Hussie ripped them apart for no real good reason. Just have Dave finally meeting Terezi be it's own happily ever after while Karkat gets alone-time with Jade, no clown or birdboy interrupting anything. But this would mean Hussie would have to write Dave as not being an incredibly lame and gay cuckold, and Karkat as not being a somehow even more pathetic gay buttmonkey. So no chance in hell, sadly.

>>149384176
It's 18+ and NSFW so the site forces you to require an account login I think.

>>149384191
I dislike tavros quite a bit and I wouldn't want him to be stuck with vriska

>>149384199
How gay is it

>>149384199
Can you post it to rentry or something if it's text?
But like has been said, get yourself a AO3 account.

There's something so nostalgic about this artist's kinda shitty style.

>>149384255
Yes.

>>149384255
Here are all the files and chapters separate:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/zc5w9xi69baafei/Ellieverse_Complete.rar/file

https://www.mediafire.com/file/d9x6auk3zovmir4/Decades_Compiled.pdf/file

>>149384239
It already got him killed once afterall.

>>149384239
I can understand some amount of Tavros hate for the same reason I understand some amount of Vriska hate, but I think regardless they're eachothers greatest pairing considering how they're written to complement eachother so well.

>>149384271
I dunno about AO3..
It kind of would make it feel like a certain type of thing if I uploaded it somewhere like there or wattpad.

I might be looking at a WORM length canon at this point..

>>149384352
Thats because they're the dysfunctional version of John/Vriska. John got just that bit more willpower so he could get through Vriskas shenanigans without a wheelchair while also then getting through to her.

>>149383833
Now and forever, I love JadeRose.
>and how would you have had it play out or would adjust things to make it become canon?
Gonna slide right by that elephant to just say I'd just give them a lot more conversations. Hussie just refused to put them on stage together.

>>149383779
Just use IA bro.

>>149384396
I like John/Vris too but similar to how I feel like johnroxy is "consolation prize" johnrose, johnvris feels like making up for johnrose and tavriska not happening. I think they work really well together and their interactions in canon are really cute and awesome but I think tavriska and johnrose are the pairings that should've been canon.
John did have more backbone than Tavros that he could probably match her energy more, and him being from human culture where being nice and honest is respected and being a murderer is bad made her begin to understand that her life philosophy was not the only possible way to live; it fits that when she first meets john is when she first starts actually feeling bad for all the bad things she does, even if she still tries to hold onto the idea that the ends justify the means. But I think ultimately her meeting John and making him basically a rebound where she actually begins to understand her true feelings for Tavros; and maybe John, his true feelings for Rose; would make for the better ending. Like a really poetic encounter wherein a Light player meeting a Breath player from another world makes her understand where she messed up in her relationship with her own Breath player, and a Breath player meeting a Light player from another world begins to realize how he truly feels about his own Light player.
Even if I think johnvris is cute I can't help but think about how often when talking to John, Vriska could not get Tavros out of her head, and basically continued thinking about him to the very end, long after we were meant to believe she had got over him.

>>149383168
Hussie animating to the (excellent) music instead of the other way around was such an important part of why a lot of [S] were so good.
>Jade slapping to the beat
https://youtu.be/lX93zhXlPoE?t=196

>>149384526
I made a comic PDF introducing some of my characters with AI. It's not ideal or what I want to do however, which is turn it into an actual mspa webcomic.

Jane Crocker.
Big tiddies, or biggest tiddies?

>>149384727
Big donk.

>>149384557
I sort of see JohnVris as the "boy meets new wild and crazy girl" as JohnRose is the "childhood friends" kind of love triangle trope.

>>149384378
>>149384344
Hey look someone is actually looking at it.

>>149384761
JohnVris is factually the “nerdy kid gets blasted by hypno girl” ship.

>>149384751
Big or biggest?

Wait, These aren't the kids I know...

>>149385534
>Joanne Robertson
Sweet Jesus.

Gentlemen... BEHOLD!
CORN!

>>149384965
Who in Homestuck do you think actually has the biggest butt? The only potential lead is Aradia, given the ‘twerket’ comment.

>>149386000
>Beta Kids: Rose
>Alpha Kids: Jake
>Beta Trolls: Aradia or Tavros
>Dancestors: Aranea

>>149386047
>Tavros
*squints*

>>149386207
Consider this: Hes always in his chair, he only ever works out his upper arms and torso. His legs never move, his hips and ass never move, especially after he gets the hover chair.
Hes got a fat ass.

>>149385798
Oh hey, this is pretty nice! And I am kinda hungry

>>149386304
NOOOO!
>Basilisk Back-Up, inbound.

>>149386300
Meanwhile, Aradia the big booty hypnotist…

>>149386353
... Don't you mean Vriska?

>>149386392
Do I? I wouldn’t mind.

Vriska hypnotizing me at a Homestuck convention.

>That Vriska I sold the Sega Saturn too pretending to "Hypnotize me" to grant her the Halloween discount, which I did because she was technically in costume.
Sigh.

>>149368429
I will do both and there's nothing you can do to stop me!

>>149373329
it's been like a decade why are jannies still perma pruning threads it's not like the comic is a spam threat anymore

>>149377222
>>149377480
that would take so many posts it'd break his wrists

>>149386915
Welcome, I'm glad to see the community on the other side growing.

Have a Jane. Love her.

>>149387206
is this oc? this is awesome. I want to like jane but I typically don't like interpretations of her, but she's really cute here.

>>149381070
based

>>149381095
also based

>>149387337
Yeah, just made her. Thank you.
I like her. Despite everything, shes a big sweetheart to me.

>>149383779
>>Check one day and realize the total wordcount is now literally longer than Homestuck itself
I KNEEL

>Made a pokemon trainer tavros for a friend's birthday. Loved it.
>Want to do a Terezi trainer now.
Hmmm. Dragon type of course but what else...

>>149383833
>are there any ships you like
ships: plenty that I can get behind. john/vriska, karkat/terezi, dave/dirk, mituna/latula to name a few
honorable mention crack ship: vriska/gamzee (kismeisis) would be funny as hell
>how would you have had it play out or would adjust things to make it become canon
I wouldn't tamper with someone else's work, though a lot of anons feel they were robbed of johnvriska and I'm inclined to agree

>>149387819
Smeargle for the color thematics

>forgot I spoiler my spoiler parts
fuck my bad

How do you livestream on Cytube? I need detailed instructions so I can set up a daily read-along.

Almost a decade later and the only discussions left for Homestuck in a thread specifically dedicated for only Act 1 and 2 is the same dogshit that just never stops repeating itself. "Oh Hussie ruined Homestuck because he did this" "Can't believe Hussie ruined this ship" "Homestuck fell off after the trolls" it's just fucking ridiculous. The janitors are fat asses but there's literally no argument as to why these threads should stay up when, like this one for example, are virtually identical to some thread made in October 2017 on a Monday. If it's not about Beyond Canon or in length debates as to why Aradia is so perfect, then the HS thread is literal garbage. God I love Aradia I feel like she should be the only topic of discussion honestly.

>>149388787
>God I love Aradia
Well I've got good news for you

>>149388848
>plushies 10 years later
will there be one for dirk and roxy too?

>>149388787
The ur Homestuck talk was kinda fun. But "it's the same as last time" isn't a reason to delete threads when there's multiple "is coffee good for you?" threads up at the same time.

Also, John and Vriska WILL get married and have a loving family together, and when I write the masterpiece that changes the world, the expies for these two characters WILL get together.

>>149388894
Probably eventually if these keep selling. They're being released in pairs so I'm guessing we'll get Rose + Kanaya, Dave + Terezi, Jade + Tavros, Equius + Nepeta and Eridan + Feferi. Because they started with Karkat alone, it leaves one troll but we could maybe package Gamzee with Jane because of the epilogues? But then we run into a similar problem. Jake + Dirk and then Roxy + Calliope? But that leaves Caliborn. Maybe instead we do Dirk + Caliborn, Jake + Aranea and then finally Meenah + Karkat (reprint). That could work

Sorry ashskins, but in real like the human girl gets the human boy.

>>149389083
People who draw shit like this make me feel ill.

>>149389083
No sane human being would prefer Vriska over Rose, it's why Hussie made Rose a lesbian

>>149368067 (OP)
oh cool, the undertale prequel

Shame I missed the talk but if you want Ur-Homestuck, it already technically exists as its own canon: the 4/10 timeline. In my heart, that's the REAL Homestuck we never saw, and only got a doomed 4/13 version.

The real Homestuck is literally lost to time.

>>149389351
Nah. Homestuck and Undertale/Deltarune are both just shadows desperately chasing the dragon of playing Earthbound in '95 when you were 10 years old.

so ur-homestuck is an au where the focus stays on the kids basically and the trolls do much less?

P.T. BARNUM SAID IT SO LONG AGO
THERE'S ONE BORN EVERY MINUTE
NOOOOOOW YOU KNOW

Just finished reading through Act 1 & 2, went to them after getting through Problem Sleuth and the other 2 MSPaint Comics. Reminded me of the quests you'd sometimes get on /tg/ or /v/ sometimes and the sort that pop up on >>>/qst/ sometimes.

I don't really see anything avant-garde tech wise but it certainly seems high effort for a web-comic. It takes a bit to start but the mystery and myth it's sort of shaping up seems interesting. Admittedly I'm probably consciously avoiding getting too attached because I've heard it plummets in quality. Also a bit surprised that I haven't really spied anything I recognize as being downstream of Homestuck besides the music.

>>149389410
Nah. Just have 4 trolls, is all. That's literally it. Limit it to 4 trolls total. They can do all they want, just keep the fucking numbers LOW.

>>149389447
>I'll write a comic where I pretend I'm a cute clown girl who is sooooooo misunderstood and troubled by plebians for her greatness, while I whine and whinge about politics

riveting

>>149389486
ah. and why is it called ur-homestuck?

>>149389493
At least Godhead Z is pretty riveting to look at. That Tron Legacy influence coming through.

>>149389500
Do you not know what ur means? It's like the true form of something, the quintessence. Ur-Homestuck, the true/actual form of the comic and not the incomplete failure we received.

>>149389527
She isn't when you realize she's some 50 year old guy's clown girlsona he created to deal with the fact he snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in the middle of a catastrophic drug burnout.

>>149389543
Is there any evidence for the stimulant addict claims?

>>149389548
anon, when a man that freakishly thin manages to update a comic with full color art and animations several times a day, for years at a time, there are amphetamines involved.

>>149389561
You'd be surprised. I'm not a fast artist, but I could crank 'em out pretty good in my traditional comics days.

what will hussie's next step be from here?

>>149389709
All I can say is that I'm nearly 100% sure he's never making any comics or games ever again.

>>149389709
Fade into permanent obscurity where he belongs while his peers and those he inspired go on to greater things.

>>149389715
why not? he seemed to have a lot of fun writing homestuck while it was in progress

>>149389734
he degenerated into a hysterical screaming fit of ego all the way in the start of *Act 5*. It's like everyone forgot his insane yellow yard rant.

>>149389734
Call it a hunch. Also, the true ending of Psycholonials, as bad and potentially insincere as it is, is literally him monologuing to the reader (and quite possibly to only a handful of people in particular, including me) about how love saved his life and that he's way too happy with his wife to go back to the Grid. Psycholonials will be the last thing he ever makes in the sense we're talking about. The last thing he's involved in? Not so sure.

>>149388930
>>149389083
Almost 15 years ago people debated whether John would end up with Rose, or Vriska. Instead Hussie turned John into a tranny incel.

>>149389455
>I'm probably consciously avoiding getting too attached because I've heard it plummets in quality
Don't listen to these losers. Yeah it peaks in the middle but the rest is still enjoyable. It's just... different. I mean, a large number of people in this very thread seem to prefer homestuck before Act 5, which is widely regarded as its peak. So clearly everyone has their own shitty opinion on what part of the comic is "good".
>I don't really see anything avant-garde tech wise
I mean, you're only at the beginning

>>149389845
>I mean, you're only at the beginning

it's been more than a decade, there is nothing avant-garde about Homestuck anymore

>>149389764
Been wondering that actually, was Rose just the shipping option because incests obviously no option? While reading it i got the expression that John hardly thought of her like that at all and at most because Karkat brought it up as inevitable at one point.

>>149389945
There was a flash animation where John and Rose walked around a lot, and there's an easter egg where the text breaks the fourth wall and calls them a cute couple. That was pretty much the last John/Rose thing before Rose/Kanaya consumed everything.

>>149389764
It's your own choice to view the Epilogues and BC as canon. For all that matters, Homestuck ends with John fucking Roxy and making a zillion babies with her over the next million years of their immortal lives

>>149390088
You know that's not how it works. "Just ignore any sequels, and enjoy the originals." As the holders of the IP dance on the original's grave.

That's ignoring the fact that OG Homestuck went to shit inside its own run.

>>149390140
Personally I just pick and chose what I like and focus on that. Some stuff from the original, some from Candy. Who is gonna tell you that your ship is less valid just because it was later shat on? In that case nobody could ship john and vriska

>>149389764
Didn't he die after almost confessing his love for Terezi? Or was it another John?

>>149390367
Meat John met Terezi and they had sex in his dad's car while he's dying. It's never explicitly stated whether its redrom or blackrom from terezi's perspectice (Ult Dirk assumes blackrom but there are some lines that could be interpreted as red. Look, I'm not good with media analysis, okay?). The whole encounter made Terezi get over Vriska and she's currently working with Ult Dirk and Rosebot to bring him back (presumably as a sprite during a new sburb session?).
Candy John married Roxy though it didn't work out due to John's depression and feeling that the Candy world is fake. Presumably this is the John that will become June

>>149389745
>his insane yellow yard rant
huh?

>>149390462
The part where Hussie starts talking about how he's inevitably gonna interact with the story so he's gonna limit his interaction with the story within one yard (which establishes the yellow yard between the two windows), all portrayed through beautiful sbahj art

>>149390430
>Presumably this is the John that will become June
Damn, we already lost Roxy to that shit, why again?

>>149390514
Eh idk, I'm kinda interested in what they do with June. I've got just enough faith in the writers that it might be interesting to read

>>149389729
depressing if true. I'd want nothing more than a spiritual successor to homestuck and actually be able to interact with the fandom in real time. homestuck was a big part of my life but I wasn't really "online" back then so I didn't talk to other homestucks or create with them or read posts/memes

>>149390530
Yeah, sure

>>149390514
Because troons defeated the art hoes on the Great Tumblr War.

>>149390573
That's just r63.

>>149390566
Honestly with how many people over the YEARS that have been saying the same thing, I am surprised that no one has ever attempted doing this.

Or rather, I'm surprised none of the countless attempts have managed to make it big, and capture lightning in the bottle.

>>149390430
MEAT JOHN NEEDS TO LIVE!

>>149390566
>I'd want nothing more than a spiritual successor to homestuck

Bro... Undertale. Deltarune. You've had it. You've had it for 10 years.

I will NEVER read the epilogues
I will NEVER read homestuck^2

>>149389764
sounds based tbdesu

>>149390788
I reread the epilogues last week and I'm currently rereading ^2. I really like Meat, I think it has some interesting concepts and the struggle over power with Dirk and Alt-Callie is really fun. John and Terezi's thing are fun, too. I'm actually kinda invested in the meat ship now. Candy is, well, it's supposed to make you mad. Every character struggles to not end up their worst self (like Jane) but it leads to some interesting characters. Even characters like Yiffy are quite interesting. We can make jokes about how dumb it is that Jade knotted Rose but like, yeah, that checks out with the way these characters have been characterised in post-canon. It's delicious drama. I think they're worth checking out

>>149388944
I would love a dirk plushie. the epilogues and BC don't ruin him do they?

>>149389083
>mfw listening to Whatshername while reading this
Fuck...I was not ready for these feels
>Remember, whatever
>It seems like forever ago
>Remember, whatever
>It seems like forever ago

>>149390816
Ehhh, depends on how you'd define ruin. The main Dirk becomes like a fusion of all Dirks in existence, Ultimate Dirk, and he decides to become the new main antagonist who wants to revitilise the franchise by starting a fresh new sburb session. Personally I think he's pretty cool but some might say he kinda goes against Dirk's whole arc in the main comic

>>149389486
Like keep it 4 kids + 4 trolls and the interactions between them.
>You now remember Dave's guardian troll was fucking Tavros

>>149390884
Reminds me of the time I came up with a story structure for a homestuck movie and I made the decision to only have four trolls (Karkat, Vriska, Kanaya and Tavros) which I know would make fans mad (because no Terezi)

>>149390816
He's in a poly relationship with Terezi and Rose, is that good?

>>149390900
That's not really true. Terezi dated Rose (past-tense) and Rose and Dirk are only metaphorically fucking, not literally

>>149390909
How is this not poly?

>>149390933
They're literally just holding hands

>>149390856
>>149390900
>>149390909
>bi
he was canonically gay what the fuck
>poly
WHAT THE FUCK

>>149390949
>>149390957
But Terezi didn't need to take Dirk's hand when they are going forward in time to see Deltrius advance. And yet she did.

The whole class system was a bit too much, Hussie should've just kept the aspects and maybe the division between passive and active or Prospite and Derse players.

>>149390957
Dirk is still gay, that's my point. He doesn't date Terezi and he doesn't have a thing with Rose, it's just a lot of sexual metaphors between them like being compared to Adam and Eve and them "spreading their seed together" but again, there isn't actually anything going on between them. Dirk is as gay as always

>>149390999
Can't agree. The classpect system is one of the coolest things that Hussie has come up with

>>149391000
Cope.

>>149391000
ah alright then

hiveswap act 3 when

>>149390957
He is not putting his penis in them. He is just bonding with them as people.

Why did GAMZEE of all people get the most action of the cast? What is it about this juggalo that has had Hussie so smitten with him for so long?

>>149389083
>>149390825
I didn't expect these emotions from an old webcomic ship and a Green Day song.

>>149391090
What homestuck did you read? He does nothing for most of act 5, goes crazy for a tiny bit and then spends the rest of the comic in vents and fridges

Wait, did I misunderstand this thread? Isn't it a storytime?

>>149390884
I think this is best, though I'd want Vriska in as an unrelated actor in the plot.

In the hypothetical Ur Homestuck are Dave and John still fuckers of troll women?

>>149391107
you're supposed to read on your own and talk about it here every week I think

>>149391101
He uses both Terezi and Jane as cumdumps for extended periods of times dude was crushing it.

is this good?

>>149391186
>>149391107
I think OP wanted to simulate the feeling of waiting for an update and wondering what happens next? Not sure what the point of that is when you can find out what happens next by reading on.

>>149391195
>Discord
>Good

>>149391007
Too much redundancy and too many restrictions, if you take classes seriously.
>>149390884
I also like the more simplified approach, Hussie has developed too many systems to keep up with. Remember the captchalogues?

>>149391191
He also maybe had molested Jane's son

>>149391207
what's wrong with discord? I use it to dm my irl friends

>>149391209
The captchalogues were just for jokes though.

what would your fetch modus be?

>>149391210
He also probably did some shit with the heads of his friends.

>>149391209
What do you mean by restrictions? There's so many combinations they cover almost anything.

>>149391195
>Discord server
>For the Homestuck community
Groomer nest.

>>149391223
It's fine for talking with people you know, or personal messaging with a specific person (I use it to talk the developer of a game I'm playtesting, for example), but the communities that form in it are cancer. I also hate how cut off the servers are from the rest of the internet, so it a piece of art is posted only there, no one else will ever be able to discover it.

>>149391271
Daverezi and Johnvris reminds me of the time my friend was really into a girl, but she said she didn't want her friend to feel lonely. So I took a bullet for my bro. I'm John doing the girl's unhinged friend in this scenario by the way.

>>149391186
>>149391199
Ah, got it. I guess I can do that, I've always been curious about Homestuck, only knowing it from afar and from porn, but never actually understanding what it actually is or how it became so big as to support its own convention etc.

>>149391234
>>149391250
Well, that's how I treat classes too. I'm all for different characters using the same aspect a bit differently, I just don't think that difference should be defined by classes. Especially if characters can grow and change, there's little point in limiting their personalities to a particular class.

>>149391271
>John gets his retcon powers
>"John, you have to go 8ack and fuck me!"
>"What?"
>"If you make me your sex slave it will save your dad!::::)"
>cut to John standing over Vriska after slugging her
>sees her bony butt
>"sigh"
>"For dad."

>>149391305
Do we have hard confirmation as to what personality traits are tied to what class?

>>149391316
Vriska has a tastefully sized butt. It's. Ot bony!

>>149378184
A man can dream

>>149391345
Well, it seems that the more active classes like Lord, Prince, and Thief tend to be more selfish and evil. Could these "bad guys" change, have redemption arcs, or become more passive? Maybe. But then should they still be defined by these classes after those changes?

>>149383779
Theres a homestuck x stargate fanfiction like that

>>149391405
Well if we treat them as a godly pantheon then no we shouldn't expect them to change, they are what was necessary to make the new world and are now in charge of it. This kind of touches on the difference between the modern take on heroes and classical ones. In modern time a hero is the most moral character of the story. In classic times, from ancient greece through medieval times and even mostly up until the 1900s a hero was just someone who was smart enough and strong enough to win the fight. I don't think those role need redeeming every time in fact if they succeed then it's likely that their awful self is exactly what their new world will need.

If Sburbs' grand design can be trusted.

>>149385798
Blue board…

So I fought all the way through to the epilogues but fuck homestuck 2 or whatever. But I’m still curious, was the Vriska retcon infinite god tier glitch ever used? In that she (might) be eternally stuck unable to achieve either a heroic or just death because roboslick smashed her clock while it wasn’t in judgement mode? For all I know god tier shit is completely irrelevant at this point, but still.

>>149390999
The classes arent even that deep. Classes are basically “what homestuck characters are you most like” and 2 verbiages

>>149391546
It hasn't come up yet and at this point Vriska got other stuff going on, whole other level of powerscaling

>>149391546
She got a new form powerup called growing up via a character development chamber (helltier) dont think infinite god tier has come up yet

>>149391588
I though character development wasn't real.

I Wonder If Toby Fox is gonna return to Works on homestuck beyond Canon once hes done with deltarune.

>>149391636
Good character development.
>Character grows up and becomes a better person.
Bad Character development
>Character never matures and doesnt take responsibility for their actions
Great character development
>Rose spends one day in SBURB and suddenly becomes a Triple D Cup.

>>149391647
Doubt it. I do wonder how much mspfa toby has read. He’s probably at least heard of vast error.

>>149391515
>Well if we treat them as a godly pantheon then no we shouldn't expect them to change
For some characters it sure works, but you gotta have character developments for the others, and then it seems weird to restrict them to one class/personality. At least the use of aspect/nature is more flexible.
>>149391575
Sure, this is just a poorly constructed spectrum of activity/passivity.

>>149391647
"Andrew? Andrew Hussie?.."

>>149391721
I'm sure the personality restrictions aren't that strict, like you could get 5 knights of time together and while yeah they all give the vibe of Dave Strider and at the end of the night you'd leave thinking they were all basically the same person they would notice the differences in each other and anyone who knew them all long enough would tell the difference.

John flying on a rocket hammer bashing imps and ogres into grist because he doesn’t want to do it manually anymore. He pities them

ok but the artstyle for homestuck is so nice. very simple, but expressive, and appealing. what a good choice

>>149383700
IIRC if you look up the actual coordinates of her house, it actually takes you to the same waterfall that Hussie based it off. Idk if there was a house there or not.

>>149391844
It should be notes that Classes are character archetypes, they from the short base struggle and shap of personality but each one would still be different.
Imagine a knight of time that was more interested in history and archeology rather than music. That's the basic idea.
You an see the same beats and problem of them but there will be differences because sburb doesn't create exact copies and life will have other factors to create differences.

>>149391090
>slaps your waifu's ass
>wdyd?

>>149368067 (OP)
implications of this?

>>149391844
Here’s 5 knights of time I made up to prove you wrong.
>grimdark don quixote
Instead of irony, larps as a knight. But is also depressed and doesnt really have faith in his mask. He just keeps to it because its all he knows. Will still fight for his brothers regardless as is his duty
>recordkeeper scribesman
Wears a mask of indifference. Born to a 12 generation long dynasty of recordkeepers. Doesnt seek to understand what he chronicles. Only to have it recorded. As is his duty. Helps his friends so that he can keep with his autistic obsession (records end when everyone is dead)
>dummer clownhead
A clown dude in a traveling band who plays the drums. Thought he would like the gig but came to loath being the sobor man stopping his bandmates from overdosing or catching aids. Still wants to keep the band together ultimately
>bone knight
A skeleton knight who begrudgingly serves his immortal necromancer overlord. Feels a duty to bring more skeletons into the necromancer’s army due to a debt from his life.
>prostitute blackman
A gay prostitute who throws out profanities like noone else. Takes on a cartoonishly fake southern gay accent. Will defend his shitty brothel and buttbuddies with his life


All similar to dave. Going off the themes of time while wearing a mask and living for others. But you’d be hard pressed to mix them up with dave. Even as they are similar

>>149383039

I love these designs so much. I wonder what Homestuck would have been like if the trolls had turned out to just be normal humans?

>>149383849
>>149384101
idk who this artist is but he has boosted aradia up to #2 behind vriska for me

>>149383039
why is human terezi male?

>>149392499
They're based on old speculation before the trolls were revealed to be aliens

>>149392540
Hotwheels on the left?

>>149392540
One being in a wheelchair must have been a idea Hussie ended up liking.

>>149392493
Vriska has no appeal why'd you lie just now

>>149392540
Didn'tTerexi say quite early she was a blind girl?

>>149392751
Hey! That's John's wife you're badmouthing.

>>149392773
First time she writes John i think, they start off shittalking each other over it.

>>149392773
Yeah but >>149383039 is a continuation of the idea of "what would human trolls look like based on nothing but the username"

>>149392751
cope and sneed

>>149392864
dear lord

>>149392864
She looks like she fucks bespectacled human men.

>>149390825
>>149389083
And in the darkest night
If my memory serves me right
I'll never turn back time
Forgetting you, but not the time

>>149392864
There's no coping and there's absolutely no sneeding. Vriska has no appeal. If you knew Vriska IRL, you'd think she's both an immense threat to your safety and severely retarded with that whole RP fixation she loves doing like a literal child. There's no fix for who she is, she kills her friends and belittles (then kills) the weak. She is in some ways an even worse person than Caliborn. She has no romantic appeal, she has no sex appeal, she is nothing worth anyone's interest and trying to say otherwise is just outing yourself as someone who does not fully understand who Vriska is, or you're just lying to yourself on the internet for the fun of it. Vriska being in proximity with someone like Aradia is like watching a cockroach crawl up Emma Stone, Vriska is an insect next to true beauty, not even cute enough to be an arachnid.

Post your voice headcannons here.
John sounds like Michael Sera.
Dave sounds like Shia Labouffe.
Rose sounds like the woman from Nightwish.
Terezi sounds like Millie from Helluva Boss.
Vriska sounds like Loona from the same show.

>>149393148
>There's no fix for who she is, she kills her friends and belittles (then kills) the weak.
I'm already in love with her you don't have to sell her to me.

>>149393161
Isn't this kinda like how women love romanticizing serial killers

>>149393096
why is this picture so moody?

>>149393155
I know Gamzee is supposed to be a Juggalo but I always imagined him sounding like Fred Durst.
>nOW i KnOW y'aLL bE lOviN tHIS SHit RiGHt hErE

>>149393155
We know what John sounds like: it's the guy who sings the How Do I Live covers during the comic.

>>149393155
Vriska is Marceline

>>149393189
Fred Durst? Not bad. I always thought Tom Green.

>>149393211
Fuck you're right. Vriska's new voice is Marceline, and Loona 's is... Feferi!

>>149393189
... This is a revelation.

>>149393189
https://youtu.be/FvYSWVdOEMc?si=L_jE1-_Wr6tsmLUL
I also retract Tom Green this is much better.

>>149393148
I'm always put off by how the RP situation with her really does make her feel like a complete child though it's just so weird to me. Nepeta's entire thing is RP and yet she's still mature enough to forget about it when she needs to, meanwhile Vriska still wants to be the badass main character pirate in a universe ending scenario because she just can't help herself.

>>149393265
Vriska just views the whole thing as a game. She's basically just tea-bagging a corpse in an FPS.

>Jane in a swimsuit.
>Basilisk in a corn suit.
>Pokemon trainer Terezi probably.
>Vriska dressed as Marceline.
Some things inspired by the thread.
We're on the sage now, what a shame. This is a good thread.
Don't forget to go to that moe board, too.

>>149393155
This is a really strange pick but during my HSBC reread for some reason my mind has defaulted Aradia voice to Minerva from Adventure Time (so chipper british) and Alt-Callie to the fucking female narrator from Stanley Parable (so lower pitch british). I don't know why, it just happened automatically

>>149393341
There is a female narrator? Amazing. I'm going for the 5-Year long achievement so I never checked. For Aradia, I always had this voice in mind whenever I read her sections.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7_rSyRD8XM

>>149389845
> Yeah it peaks in the middle but the rest is still enjoyable. It's just... different. I mean, a large number of people in this very thread seem to prefer homestuck before Act 5, which is widely regarded as its peak. So clearly everyone has their own shitty opinion on what part of the comic is "good".
No, you are just a retarded kiddo who should go back to gossiping on Tumblr, or whatever your natural habitat is.

>>149393368
The female narrator appears when you go to the 'exit' right before the mind control facility and you're about to be crushed to death and you land in a weird museum? There's like a british woman narrating over it

>>149393155
I really like the fancanons that youtubers used to do https://youtu.be/3PvZbnKpy1M?si=5foQxDp5RDW5Pb8J
when I read aloud to my friend who is new to to homestuck I mimic similar qualities. he reads dave though. dave is his favorite character so far

>>149393388
How strange, I never got there yet. Oh well.
Got two years to go.

>>149393155
Karkat sounds like Zim.

>>149392864
goddamn cosplay looks so fun

>>149393481
>Karkat sounds like Zim, who sounds like Moxxie.
>Terezi sounds like Millie, whose Moxxie's wife.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo7tCD0tS88
This confirms my theory of Trolls being able to purr.

Already planning my "ur Homestuck" inspired fic. Got this weird idea for Enrique Iglesias as a butt of jokes between a couple who get together, where Escape is played straight and unironically.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyk_68Gn7RY

>>149392493
I just realized we never really did anything with the horrorterrors

>>149393541
There's something so genuinely Lovecraftian about the idea behind them in the sense of seeing them if your dream self dies.

>>149393508
It really is. Since the threads dying I'll post a tldr.
>Work in a retro game shop.
>Halloween of '22, all alone.
>Come in in a costume and get 20% off.
>in comes a short white Vriska and a big black Equius.
>Equius zooms to the PS2 section and begins meticulously searching for things.
>Vriska comes up to the counter nonchalantly and asks about the Saturn we got.
>We get along and she asks how much it'd be with the discount. Tell her its gotta be a video game costume. She tells me that 'Oh Vriska is from Homestuck, and its got a few video games for the PC!'
>I ask her what Homestuck is, knowing full well what it was already.
>The smile she gave me.
>For half an hour she just goes on and on about Homestuck, where to read it, and how her costume, Vriska, is the main character that saves everyone.
>Its autistic spiel but its funny. Tell her that, if Vriska can use hypnosis and mind control, why doesn't she just make me give her a discount.
>She assumes that Vriska pose like pic-related and pretends to hypnotize me.
>Its so dumb and its so late I decide to give her and Equius the discount, which is good because hes got about 30 sports games with him and they're cheap as hell.
>He buys his games.
>She gets her Saturn.
>Before she leaves, she suggests I dress up as John next halloween because 'You look just like him!'
>And I close up not long after that.
She comes in every now and then, and I always hold a particularly good game for her since shes the only one who has been buying Saturn stuff.

>>149393579
Why are all the cute girls only into black men?

>>149393605
They weren't a couple, they were friends. That Equius is, apparently, gay. He came in during our Pride Discount with his boyfriend recently.

I miss the Funny Stoner Gamzee

>>149393579
Damn, lucky

>>149393579
>She assumes that Vriska pose like pic-related and pretends to hypnotize me.
Oh my GOD you lucky faggot

>>149393692
I really am. Shes my best Saturn customer.
She also did something else but thats for another time.

>>149393672
>treats every troll as a worthless joke to be killed and laughed at because Hussie is a disaster of a writer
>the one formerly joke troll is now utterly serious and never ever going away because Hussie has a CRIPPLING addiction to his clown fetish

there are executives who would have murdered entire nations to have the marketable power of the trolls, and he just threw it off a cliff while ranting mad

>>149393672
stoner gamzee was my favorite troll

>>149393698
>She also did something else but thats for another time.
Blast you extra-hard and leave you snoring on the job?

>>149393722
Viz could have marketed them. Don't they have the rights?

>op makes thread for newcomers
>no one spoilers late events
kek

>>149393722
This is why creatives need editors and agents on their backs every day.

>>149393750
Nah, she pulled down her shirt and flashed me her bra before she bolted out the door with a laugh.

>>149393784
some editors have messed shit up just as badly before though

Since the thread is dying...
What are they watching?
Hard mode: not Con Air
European Extreme mode: not a Nic Cage movie

>>149393784
Impossible for Hussie. He was an egotistical sack of shit from day 1 with his abuse of the contributing artists, he'd refuse all editing and drive off any agents. He's a walking liability and it's zero wondeer Viz got left holding an empty bag.

>>149393815
Rose spending three hours screaming and complaining to Jade because they're stuck knotted together, Jade is ignoring her in idiot bliss the whole time

>>149393815
Street Fighter: The Movie.

It's a double feature and Mortal Kombat is next.

>>149393815
Avatar (2009).

Who's making the next thread >:3

>>149393815
Top Gun.

>>149393788
Tell me you've at least gotten her number by now

>>149393815
a friend suggested I try the she-ra cartoon. they have a huge obsession with the caatra ship

>>149393933
Does Nepeta count for the Saturday threads?

>>149393940
If he hasn't he's obviously just a simp.

>>149393821
>his abuse of the contributing artists
Details please?

>>149393940
I got her discord last February. She comes in once every few months so I never have time to really chat with her, especially when it gets busy.

A most excellent thread. I will save it.

>>149393981
So get in her DMs already. You don't get to come in here and drop a bomb like that and then not follow through.

>>149394048
Who says I haven't?
Thats for another time.

>>149393981
>>149394048
>the adventures of john and human vriska
johnvris bros eating good

>>149393981
>asked for her fucking discord and not her phone number
this is like a man dying of thirst watching another man spill his water

>>149394072
Always were. I just wish Vriska wasn't... Well, as bad as she is in the comic.

Aranea has the best ass

Thanks mods for not deleting this one

>>149394177
are we back bros?

>>149394189
The test will be to make another thread and see how long that lasts.

>>149394189
Probably not. This was the arbitrarily decided 1/month thread. Make another and it will explode.

Let's keep it quiet for now.
Return to 8chun.

>>149394225
Stop letting them demoralize you.

>>149394245
This. There's actually no legitimate reason to delete these threads.

>>149394259
Someone go to their IRC Chat and just ask them.

>>149393148
Slam

>>149393605
Youd be into black men too if he was equius