Is it gay to impregnate your best friend after he got turned into a girl due to magic?

>>149383803 (OP)
This the new R63 thread?

>>149383803 (OP)
Yes, but it would be more gay not doing it. Someone redpill me in this comic, is it worth reading?

>>149383803 (OP)
Yes. That's hella gay. That's even gayer than Liberachi.

>>149383812
How about a thread about R63 webcomics?

I always confuse this shit with Ship in a Bottle.

>>149383819
>Someone redpill me in this comic, is it worth reading?
Not gonna lie, it's pretty funny, but the plot turns into a bit of a mess when they introduce time travel.

>>149383843
Best R63 webcomic is El Goonish Shive, hands down.

>>149383872
>but the plot turns into a bit of a mess when they introduce time travel.
What happens? Don't tell me the genie was his own mom or something.

>>149383812
I was more trying for a "weird old webcomics" sorta thread but sure, I don't really care.
>>149383819
It depends on how you feel about old webcomics. Like I really enjoyed it but that's because I used to read shitty webcomics when I was still impressionable so if you don't have this brain Illness you might hate it, IDK.

>>149383982
He was his first time, which I kinda hate cause ideally his first time as a girl should be with Neil and that being a big moment for both.

>>149383934
I argue if the Wotch had continue improving quality like back when ICS was doing the bonus stories it would be the best of the bunch. El Goonish Shive intimidates me because is fucking long, it was fucking long 15 years ago when I tried to read it for the first time and is even longer now.

Wouldn't these frumpy males get turned into frumpy females? Why do they get turned into super models?

>>149384060
El Goonish Shive is long, but it's also SLOW. A lot of it is mild character drama, jokes, and just dicking around with transformations. The plot is much easier to keep up with than you'd expect. Trust me when I say you shouldn't be intimidated by it if you can find the time to read it.

It also doesn't really have a metric fuckton of characters coming and going like some webcomics I could think of.

>>149384060
I remember the battle with the slime monster just going on and on and on. I found it enjoyable but even for webcomic standards things seemed to move at a glacial pace.

>>149384092
Because magic/super science ain't meant to make ugos, it's meant to make total babes anon.

>>149383803 (OP)

>>149384092
Because is hot.

>>149383803 (OP)
The issue with GB stories is that you either make the transformation something the character can do back and forth of the story sort of forgets is a GB story and instead is just the story of a girl who kind of acts like a boy and her friend in adventures.

>>149384099
It has few character but said characters change a lot, both due to sheanigans and character development, I remember early in what I read there was a black hair girl who was actually blonde or something, the the guy who always wore glasses top wearing them. Not saying that makes it harder to keep up with but it kind of does.

>>149384092
Why would you invent a spell/gizmo that turns someone into a chick but doesn’t make them hot?

>>149383803 (OP)
Spiritually, yes

>>149383803 (OP)
Only if you don’t say no homo

More importantly, is it gay to make out with your female friend after being turned into a girl?

>>149384060
>>149384099
The Wotch is the superior transformation fetish comic, because it both had actual storylines and conflicts and it embraced being a transformation fetish comic.

EGS is a transformation fetish comic that is *terrified* of offending anyone, even by accident, and as a result has become about nothing but extended non-conflicts where the most dire things that happen now is someone ALMOST INSINUATING that they didn't fully consider someone else's feelings when they made a remark on an unrelated topic, and then they have to spend the next three pages apologizing for that transgression and being absolved of it. This is only barely an exaggeration of how the comic actually reads now.
Meanwhile, the transformation fun of the comic is either played out and ignored or extremely sparse because the narrow range of transformations that the author is comfortable with have already been done to death and are not new or exciting anymore and so he doesn't even bother to focus on that stuff anymore. In a comic that is primarily about people playing around with transforming into sexy ladies for fun, not a single member of the cast has a functioning sex drive. They all are perpetually in the mode of "having to wildly swerve into traffic because they almost saw a boob" tier exaggerated turbo-virginity, but also simulatenously are the sort of people who build breast expansion rayguns, and the author cannot square that circle between the inherent horniness of the premise and his current year SJW sensibilities.

>>149384309
>The issue with GB stories is that you either make the transformation something the character can do back and forth of the story sort of forgets is a GB story and instead is just the story of a girl who kind of acts like a boy and her friend in adventures.

The perfect solution for this is to start off with only genderswapping the one character, and then you shake things up by having other characters get genderswapped as well. This lets you offscreen the commonalities between their situations after the first time and focus on the character-specific differences that result from them being genderswapped (personal reactions to the transformation, resulting family drama, etc) while also opening up the door on addressing the common cause of the genderswapping as your ultimate problem to solve. How do we stop this from happening to more people? Is this going to become an epidemic? Can it be reversed, and by the time you find that out who wants to switch back vs who wants to stay? Etc.

>>149383803 (OP)
Bot or autist. Call it.

>>149385023
Arguably it's the straightest move a guy-turned-girl can make.

>>149383803 (OP)
Sadly genies can only be impregnated via magic in this canon

>>149385521
Is it gay to wish my former bro to be perma-pregnant with me then?

Not really since sperm + ovum = baby

>>149384194
This but unironically. The purpose of TG comics is for the TGed girl to get fucked by men. If she is not constantly in danger of losing to cock, you do not have a comic.

>>149383803 (OP)
For the guy, Idkm I guess not?
For the guy turned into girl, definitely. Say all you want about "being a bro" but be honest, your gay ass would have done it if seen fit.

>>149384092
It's fetish porn logic we ain't gotta explain shit

>>149385283
There is an isekai anime where a pair of guys get Isekai and one becomes a cute girl, after a while the goddess who sent them there swap them out so the girl become a guy and viceversa but is different since the guy turning into a girl is a different flavor of personality so how he reacts and acts as a girl is different, same with the girl turn guy now instaed of a bunch of guys being lovestruck by her is him getting harassed by women.

>>149385210
So basically the EGS became so safe to avoid any outrage that the characters themselves became hyper safe? Sounds kind of a nightmare, I only read some chapters in the early days but I remember the inventor guy being horny for the squirrel girl, whatever happened to that?

>>149386347
The fetish porn I read actually usually explains shit.

>>149385023
Valkyrie Yuki was a fun comic, shame it didn't last long. In the early days where most webcomics looked amateurish at best and DA tier at worst this one was of the better looking ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPXTBQOnQcA
This gives me nostagia for the old days where the web wasn't made of premade assets and rich kids taking selfies for likes but by people who really cared for their fandom

>>149385210
>They all are perpetually in the mode of "having to wildly swerve into traffic because they almost saw a boob" tier exaggerated turbo-virginity
Depends on the character. The cast is definitely moving at different speeds. IIRC Ellen and Nanase are definitely the fastest there.

>>149385959
Yeah basically. The whole point is the guy who's now a girl resisting the female hormones that are now present in his body, which he isn't used to and are now giving him the overwhelming urge to bounce on the closest dick he can find. That's what's interfering and arousing about the scenario: the struggle to not admit defeat from the character and internal struggle of prolonging the act of submit to such urges and become, in both body and mind, a woman fully.

>>149386609
God there's something nostalgic about early how to draw manga ass webcomics.

>>149386660
Genies are made of magic and thus don't have hormones in this universe. It's a plot point.

>>149385335
I guess though your technically making two girls kiss which is gay.

>>149386685
It's Schrodinger's Gay but yuri focused.

>>149386681
I was saying in general anon, I was just using an image from Jeanie Bottle cause that's what OPs image is.

>>149386666
Damn nice quads, I agree, I think part of it was how rare was to see images in the early web, the rarity and extra effort to load the images made it feel more especial.

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>>149386729
Thanks mate.

>>149386729
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>>149386681
Yes, but genies are also magical slavegirl whores so they too are in danger of losing to cock.

>>149384060
Sonja was hot

It sucks that a good chunk of kittyhawk's "oneshots" are impossible to find.

>>149384194
Kek, basically.

It sucks that a good chunk of kittyhawk's "oneshots" are impossible to find.

>>149384309
Misfile went from Gender Bender comic to Initial D with a female driver surprisingly quickly.

>>149383803 (OP)
No, it would be gay to not do it.
Since she is now a toto woman, her genes are XX

>>149386729
I like that the little monkey assumes the protagonist is a girl because he was watching a magical girl anime.

>>149386879
Seeing as to what ended up happening to the person Jason was based on I could unironically see Jason staying as Sonja permanently if the Wotch ever got a proper conclusion.

>>149387258
I'm afraid to ask. I though Jason was 100% fictional, the protagonist was the creator self insert I know that much.

Jason was based, just wanted to turn into a chick with a hot body and perv on his fellow female friends while looking like a woman.

>>149383821
His name was Liberace

>>149387299
The person Jason is based is now trans.
Also Robin is more clearly the self insert for the creator if anyone is.

>>149387258
>if the Wotch ever got a proper conclusion.
Not happening.

>>149387044
Oh anon that's not true. Such a person truly become a girl only after he has a proper female organism while another man is insider "him". That is the tipping point where there is no going back and "she" becomes a she.

>>149383803 (OP)
Yes. Stop being a fag and trying to justify fucking your friend because they turned into a girl, for whatever, degenerate, femboy/trap adjacent, fetish you have

>>149386729
The photo backgrounds makes me wonder if that is the creator's IRL room.

>>149385210
Considering one of the first results when looking for images was a tumblr post tittled From problematic to progressive I starting to think I should skip it.

>>149386879
Would.

>>149387734
>From problematic to progressive I starting to think I should skip it.
That's probably referencing how the series kinda becomes a deconstruction of TF fetish comics around the time Tedd comes out as genderfluid.

But yeah, if you don't want your men magically turning into women to be "woke" then it's probably not for you, but I'm not sure why you're even here.

>>149383843
The spinoff is better Shame about the missing opportunity to do something interesting with them

>>149387973
>but I'm not sure why you're even here.
I liked the chipmunk girl.

>>149383803 (OP)
Best TF comic coming through.

>>149387629
Maybe. I got fooled for years by RPGWorld using two random white guys for the real world interlude. Made me think one of them was the creator. Imagine my shock years later when SU got big and I discovered the truth.

>>149388061
squirrel

>>149388219
What truth?

>>149388386
Anon being retarded here. RPGWorld was created by OK KO creator and husband of Rebecca Sugar, Ian Jones-Quartey.
I could get the surprise if Ian didn't also have a fucking web series where he very blatantly demonstrated that he was, in fact, black. Anon here is being an idiot.

>>149388061
Where can I read that comic?, the one of the boys turned cheerleader

>>149388451
>Anon here is being an idiot
Hey, I only ever read RPGWorld and never followed any of his other work. I didn't even know he was involved in SU until I eventually stumbled across mentions of it on /co/.

>>149388668
http://cheer.sailorsun.org

>>149387446
A man can dream though

>>149383803 (OP)
It makes you a tranny chaser.

>>149385283
You know I remember there being two webcomics that sort of tried to be more grounded and include the characters trying to explain their family and friends their situation, one was about some teens who enter some abandoned house got knocked down and where turned into girls and I remember the scene where the now complete stranger had to convince his own mom of his identity.

The other was from the artist who drew those nagas in the early 00s and that one was more of about two guys who wake up Hangover after a night of drunk bar hopping as women trying to figure out what happen the night after and who cursed them, there two they sort of had to explain their situation to family and acquaintances.

>>149384309
>>149385283
Alternatively, mix it up, have some characters able to change back and forth, and some be stuck, see how each adapts

>>149383803 (OP)
If you know they were a guy and knew them before changing then its gay. f you didnt and you never knew they were a man originally then it isnt gay. Easy enough.

>>149387368
>The person Jason is based is now trans.
Unsurprising, but good for her if she's happy that way

>>149387368
>>149387299
>the protagonist was the creator self insert
>Also Robin is more clearly the self insert for the creator if anyone is.
They all are. Most of the characters are based on a tg fetish roleplay webhost that's long defunct. Anne, Robin, Jason, the older brother with the age fetish, the super-asian chick, the centaur girl, all of them and a few others I forgot were based on actual friends of the webcomic creators who just took their roleplay characters and translated them into their fetish comic. At this point, I'm not even shaming them since there's far more hideous things on the internet, but that's just where it came from. Reusing material that was already there.

>>149383803 (OP)
Don't you hate it how they make girls/women behave like they're perfectly fine with another woman touching them or even sleeping together with them? Jews are such idiots/disingenous fucks.

Women react just as bad as straight men being touched by another man, especially strangers. It's only this generation of standardless morons that either passively ignores it or is flamboyant as shit around their friends and their friends enable it.

>>149389263
>Coping and Adjusment
>Integration and Reflection
You'd kill yourself in a second after tentatively masturbating. No straight man turned into a woman would even dare to fuck another guy without turning into an emotional wreck since even the already flamboyant bi guys/trannies/gays end up necking themselves. What the fuck are the jews or the internet teaching you faggots?

the jews are hiding under the fetish comics!

>>149391478
>>149391520
Running out of material aren't you?

>>149391698
I'm mocking his schizo meltdown

>>149390975
Abstract Gender was the first one, I think?

>>149391478
The truth is in the middle, women more touchy betwwen women but obviouly only applies to friend and family is not a porno or an anime where they are fine with everyone touching them.

>>149385521
Wait, was that brought up in the original TV series?

>>149383803 (OP)
>Is it gay to impregnate

>>149393099
How about being impregnated?

>>149391437
I never got roleplay, how does that work? Spitbaling ideas I get but don't uou need a game to roleplay?

>>149393099
>he doesn't know
/d/ would be a very scary place for you.

>>149393276
Ever played pretend before, anon? Or taken your action figures and acted out your idea scenario of one of the TMNT teaming up with a Power Ranger to fight Skeletor? If you have, then you're about halfway there.

>>149393276
>don't you need a game to roleplay
No. Phone sex often involves basic roleplay.
>how does that work
It's basically collaborative scene writing/improv wherein multiple people control the words or actions of PoV characters assigned to each person, with any other characters involved or details outside of character words and actions run by either the group or an assigned person.

>>149393049
I think he means the canon of the comic.

>>149393314
Sure but idk how that works on a forum

>>149393373
Thanks that makes it a little clearer.

Whats happened with EGS in the last, like, 10 years?
Last thing I read was Elliot and Ashley being in that magic warehouse at the same time Tedd rebooted magic

I'd definitely do an EGS dump if there was a convenient way to download all the pages

>>149394142
It's basically a story told in segments, with each player providing a new bit to the story from the perspective of their chosen character in every post.

>>149394186
I know WOTCH is on sadpanda, not sure about EGS

>>149386953
That... sounds kinda fun actually.

>>149394335
I saw 2 galleries of EGS in Sadpanda, ~200 pages
Torrentless

>>149394186
>Whats happened with EGS in the last, like, 10 years?
A lot. The story kinda seesaws between a lot of down time and then monsters running around or the literal apocalypse or something.

>>149383803 (OP)
technically no, spiritually yes

>>149394411
Its a fun read. Not sure what happens later.

>>149383843
sherwood

>>149383803 (OP)
>Is it gay
Here's a simple rule to determine if something is gay: If it at any point in it's life has had a dick then it's turbo gay to fuck it.
Jokes aside, yeah if part of your sexual fantasy requires your partner to have been gender bent then you're pretty gay.

>>149394806
Never heard of it.

>>149392089
OK.

>>149389658
Thanks, after reading for a while, now I know why this isn't more popular.

>>149396719
Most tg webcomics are pretty much pure fluff anyways, it's a very niche thing even stripped out of the context of being someone's fetish

>>149396719
Did you get to the part with the revelation one of the cheerleaders didn't get ID and lives pretending she is a cheerleader but being the onlybone who remember his own life?

>>149394335
>>149394456
Alright I've uploaded El Goonish Shive and it's spin off to Panda
https://e-hentai.org/g/3441318/879f7ddd5d/
https://e-hentai.org/g/3441343/56abde2b36/
https://e-hentai.org/g/3441348/3111e2c901/

>>149397237
Neat, also Newspaper?

>>149397318
Whatever stories the writer doesn't want to put on the main site, such as side stories, filler, what-ifs, and stand-alones

>>149397044
It just feels like a direct to dvd teenage movie from the early 2K, and being a comic instead of a movie makes it even less appealing.

>>149397184
And is that an actual plot point or am I going to be stuck with the same "we need to prepare for the homecoming dance" kind of story even after that?

>>149398033
That was the shocking revelation at the end of a chapter, but it happened very late into the comic and soon after they stopped updating, so it never had a chance to go anywhere

>>149398167
Makes me wanna see at least a new version of the comic but where we get to see the guys inner thoughts about the situation. Though it might turn depressing at some point

>>149397237
Bueno
Thanks anon

>>149398200
The og was depressing, let me find the pages.

>>149399106
Ok

if you were tg'ed would you take the D

>>149399854
Depends, am I in a webcomic or japanese comic book?

>>149399854
I'd take the V instead.

And then find a way to turn back afterwards.

>>149383803 (OP)
I don't know but having that specific fantasy is pretty gay

>>149383803 (OP)

>>149383803 (OP)
I mean at that point where does the gay begin or end. Very confusing scenario.

>>149400123
At the point you forget to say "no homo" after ejaculation inside their vagina

>>149399854
>if you were tg'ed would you take the D
I've had plenty of nightmares where I was tg'd, and even had sex in a few of them, but I've never taken the D in them.

Came really damn close a couple times though. Well, one of the Ds was a giant worm swarm in a race track bathroom that I barely got away from. Other instance involved me getting surgically altered into a fucktoy (complete with an extra vagina between my tits) to be passed around a terrorist camp, but I slaughtered them all with my allies before the raping began.

>>149399854
Probably not, but not because it's gay but because I'm one of those autist who hates being touched by other people
I'd touch the hell out of myself though

>>149400552
>tfw once dreamt I had become a knock-off Miku but with a yellow colour scheme.

>>149401009
What like a female Len or something?

>>149400123
When he organism as a girl he's no long a he and is a she.

>>149401847
>What like a female Len
Weird way to say Ren unless you meant Naru for some reason.

>>149401847
No. More or less just a straight copy of Miku.
But with yellow in the colour scheme.

>>149388061
>>149399106
>>149399700
Ok while everyone else is busy with their cheerleader shenanigans, we sort of see the ditzy girl with pigtails isn't as ditzy as she seems. And turns out she is the one person who remembers their past lives

>>149402669
But as previously established in the main comic the football jocks where such assholes nobody gave a fuck when they disappeared. So nobody would believe her if she told the truth and the few who would would think the change was for the better.

>>149402697
But the comic does little with this, because fight after this Goblins attack.

>>149402719
Ah shame, but I honestly doubt they would really have anything interesting in mind with it anyways

>>149400106
Based.

>>149401009
Lucky son of a gun

>>149383803 (OP)
If it's temporary, yes very gay.
If it's a trans thing, somehow it's more gay.
But if it's like a rewriting of history and the magic changed him to have always been a girl, then not as gay. But still pretty "gay" because you knew him as a guy.

>>149399854
Maybe, but I'd try to les out first

>>149404601
I wouldn't say lucky. More like "what the fuck is my imagination doing?"

Of course there was this other time but it was less interesting than that dream.

>>149402669
>>149402697
>>149402719
This is one of those times these transformation and tg comics feel like a horror story, just for how they try to present the situation as everyone being happier for someone being born the "right" gender, but it's never that clean or simple. In the best case scenario, it'll be like they got replaced by a doppelganger and nobody will notice a difference. But oftentimes they or someone else will know the difference, and they'll basically be living a lie their entire lives because nobody believes them.

Honestly, it's more fucked up for the cheerleaders cause everyone else in town DOES remember how those cheerleaders used to be male jocks, but because they were assholes as men everyone's decided that they prefer these more stereotypical bubbly and happy-go-lucky "replacements" and just kept them eternally in the dark about the fact they used to be men. It's like some kind of Truman Show type shit on some level.

But then again, this is one of those tg comics, so this is the kind of thing we're meant to not think about too hard since it ruins the mood for the bepantied pillow fights.

>>149403899
Context?

>>149405620
When the fairy turns Little Bunny Foo Foo into a Goon for bopping field mice on the head, did you also have an existential crisis then, or does that conveniently only happen when you can virtue signal about fetish porn?

>>149405620
The Wotch also had a character treating the story like a horror story, you have this Dip like guy running the school paper trying to discover the source of all the weirdness and eventually gets TG by the protagonist maybe evil mentor and magically bind to not say anything and the curse also reality changed or at least memory changed his friends memories.

>>149405689
Funny story, never heard that rhyme. Well, not so much a funny story as "weird".

Also, I resent the implication I'm virtue signaling about fetish porn, if only cause I don't see the porn anywhere, just a fluff comic that I'm very admittedly overthinking for my own amusement.

>>149405729
Yeah, that comic got rather strange when it couldn't decide if it's legitimately harmless comedy to suddenly "oh fuck there's dire consequences to randomly altering people for no reason, who woulda guessed".

>>149384060
I would not discourage reading El Goonish, but when you stop enjoying it don't continue, it won't improve.

>>149405729
>>149405827
Transformation is the get out of jail free for having a fetish webcomic. The amount of transformation webcomics is stupid. Addictive Science is based af furshit

>>149405827
El Goonish Shive reminds me a lot of Megatokyo where the moment you stop finding it engaging is where it basically enters a flat curve in terms of change. They honestly feel frozen in time to their particular periods of the internet, it's surreal.

>>149405620
Well not everyone at school knows they where jock just the protagonist and their clique, the rest just don't care the jocks dissapeared and don't think anything of the hot cheerleaders who appered around the same time.

>>149405897
I'm gonna disagree with this. El Goonish Shive has multiple points where the feel of the story takes a shift. Megatokyo has exactly one where the cowriter left.

>>149405897
Ah Megatokyo, the memories fading but it's art style was so faint sometimes the fade is unnoticeable.

>>149406285
>El Goonish Shive has multiple points where the feel of the story takes a shift
Please elaborate if you will. I've never seen it make any such shift, but I'm willing to bet that I dropped the comic too early.

>>149406344
the Damien arc, the tf party, Susan's backstory where she kills a vampire in Europe, Ellen's memory transplant, the weirdness around the time Elliot was getting with Ashley, Tedd coming to terms with being genderfluid, after the near apocalypse, I'd say tonally all of these are fairly distinct.

>>149406381
>the tf party
You mean the eternal slumber party actually fucking ended at some point?

>>149406299
I only remember the n1nj4 who sp0k3 1n l337

>>149406450
Somehow

>>149406886
Then yeah, I was dead wrong that nothing changed in EGS, but I'm admittedly just flabbergasted he ended that slumber party at some point

>>149406450
>>149406886
>>149406945
I never read that comic but I remember people comparing it with the boat arc in Berserk.

>>149407042
>remember reading TwoKinds during its boat arc
What is up with comics and boats

>>149407082
The author knows that once they get off the boat the boat will never return so they use all their boat ideas sequencally.

>>149404701
Ok

>>149407042
>I never read that comic but I remember people comparing it with the boat arc in Berserk.
Back in my day we'd compare it to Namek.

>>149399854

At some point I would have to try it. I just don't know with who.

>>149399854
Depends how hot am I.

>>149405784
I don't think that trying to understand the actual implications of a fetish trope, I just think is a different approach.
There's a certain kind of morbid curiosity in taking it seriously, it's like those series that take the Magic girl more seriously.

I remember a manga page with the GB character trying to ripp its face off because he couldn't keep looking at someone else's face in the mirror.

>>149407568
I don't think the issue is that but the tonal whiplash, Imagine if you will one second you have Sabrina the teenage witch turning some mean teacher into a hot bimbo with a poof of smoke and a laught track and next episode have one character treat it like a serius issue with missing posters around.

>>149407738
Oh yeah, I was talking about analysing it as a fans. But yeah the shift can be weird.

I think is better if you do it in early stages of such story, like invincible looking like a regular superman story and then had OmniMan murder the guardians of the glove out of nowhere.

>>149407801
I will admit to sometimes intentionally reinterpreting the text in a different and more serious manner, but rarely will I do it because I hate the work that much. I just do it for my amusement, and because the transformation/gender bender kind of stories invite that kind of question of self-identity and whether it's your mind or your genitals that determine who you are. Like, however harsh I could have been on a work like Cheer!, at the end of the day it's a fan work meant to just use the characters as vehicles for slapstick and highschool antics, and the writer has the right to just stick to that over inspecting the cheerleaders' situation from a dramatic point of view.

Though the whole "tonal whiplash" thing I see happen in a fair amount of tg stories tends to happen much later, as though the early comedy antics and misunderstandings are some kind of adrenaline high that the protagonist is coming down from and the stark realization that this is now their life is taking place, and NOW is when the characters start brooding about what happened.

>>149407904
I think you can divide it in both body horror (alien body) and social horror (your spot in society as you is no longer yours) its a winning combinantion, just as Kafka.

>webcomic is so niche but targets you directly
>can't share because it's too embarrassing or you don't want them to get scared off and stop filling your niche

>>149383803 (OP)
What happens to the fetus if Xer gets turned back into a male? Yes I know it gets killed but does it kill Xer too?

>>149408108
Probably would cause some internal wound in the process and kill the dude from bleeding.

>>149407904
>Though the whole "tonal whiplash" thing I see happen in a fair amount of tg stories tends to happen much later

I think that also happens cause writers can't stick to the later interpetion. Like they want to do the serious story but have to attract readers with the basic comedy first

>>149402719
>>149402697
>>149402669
Is there a strip or panel in this comics that you think would improve with better art? I don't mean aesthetically, but that it would improve the tone of the scene... Or make it hotter, thats valid too

>>149408338
For sure, the original feels like an sketch, but I can see it going from bright to dark as the realization gets heavier.

>>149408095
This but for every interest I have. It sucks living in a religious comunity.

>>149408108
It'd probably be impossible to turn back if you do turn back.
Like if a person got turned due to magic it'd probably be something like "the rules of the magic prevent it" or "the act of creating life is itself inherently 'magical' and a powerful action at that so it would overwrite the attempt to change her back"
For science it might just be a "that would probably just kill you and the baby" sort of deal.

>>149408742
Has someone ever tried redoing the pages? or is it too niche that no one has ever bothered?

>>149409264
>the act of creating life is itself inherently 'magical' >cringe natalist bullshit outta nowhere

>>149409264
>the act of creating life is itself inherently 'magical'
What a male-coded thing to say. My mother did not think of me as magical.

>>149410113
>male-coded
>>>/tumblr/
Even if you are being ironic, you need to go back.

>>149410127
YWNBAW
Birthrate is in freefall because cis women do not think things like """the act of creating life is itself inherently 'magical'"""

Ask your mom. Ask MY mom.

>>149410146
Birthrate is down because we formed up a society that makes goddamn sure everyone by age 23 is $50K in debt, houses are impossible to obtain since the down payment will always be $70-80K at minimum, and no job will ever hire a fresh graduate for a single goddamn thing ever. Entry level jobs and on site training have not existed for more than a decade.


People who are really really really over the heads in debt and cannot find work outside of a Walmart are not going to settle down and have kids.

>>149410146
1) The post you quoted explicitly involved a magical context, so your objection required you to fail basic reading comprehension to be able to politically posture
2) Calling anything *-coded is horrible breadtube tumblr social justice garbage that makes you subhuman-coded

>>149410187
Pregnancy is not a magical context, you male-brained masculine-coded tranny
>the act of creating life is itself inherently 'magical'
What's the counterspell, Abortion? If a cis woman can cast Abortion on herself what's stopping the tranny from getting the fetus crushed by its newly male organs?

>>149410232
Within the context of "Like if a person got turned due to magic." Read the post you are quoting. Or don't, subhuman tumblrscum.

>>149410251
That still makes no sense because pregnancy is not inherently magical, it can happen to any cis woman. Being turned into a normal human does not make you magical, retard

>>149410089
>>149410113
No it's based on a traditional use of magic where magic is an expression of the natural world and spirituality.
God I fucking hate the more athistic depiction of magic popularized by Rowling. Ruined modern fantasy.

>>149410296
>the natural world
>trannies

>>149410274
That's nice. If you read the post, the context is narrative magic tropes, which you used as an excuse to go off because you need everyone to know how Woke You Are To The Pregnancy Question. Okay, your wokeness is acknowledged, I am sure you are very educated on the issues by breadtube and their ilk, now fuck off.

>>149410311
Dude your context is based on bullshit. Ask your mom what was so magical about having you.

>>149410331
1) I am not >>149409264
2) W-what? Magic isn't real? Sometimes, people put impossible things into fiction?! You can't possibly be serious?!?!

>>149410361
there's impossible and there's straight up bullshit my friend

>>149410331
I asked your mom and she said she regrets not doing anal

>>149410373
Yeah, and both are just fine in fiction when SJWs aren't around. Everything is problematic and chuddy. Noted. Go do literally anything else literally anywhere else.

>>149410383
Mine regrets having a child, she used to take out on me all her self-hate

>>149410385
>both are just fine
>bullshit is fine
No

>>149410407
I am very sorry that your childhood trauma does not control how other people write fiction. You are going to have to grow up and get over it someday. It is just how it is.

>>149410422
And you are going to get called out for writing bullshit

>>149410398
Nr. 1 reason why I don't have kids. I would hate them and beat the shit out of them. I would neglect and abuse my children. That is a crime currently and I don't want to deal with law enforcement.

>>149410430
Okay. Feel free to have a nice public cry session about your mom. Every thread is, after all, about you.

>>149383803 (OP)
Yes, it is gayer than dating a trans-woman. You knew "her" as a guy, you spent so much time together and went through so much that you became best friends.
Your first reaction to your bro transforming into a girl should be trying to come up with a way to turn him back to normal.

Pic not related. Ryoga doesn't consider Ranma a friend, and Ranma was asking for it after always teasing Ryoga.

>>149410296
>No it's based on a traditional use of magic where magic is an expression of the natural world and spirituality
You mean like when women brew abortion potions because they don't want to be pregnant?

>>149410504
Ryoga is such a pathetic man i don't think he could have sex with any real woman

>>149410654
The best shot he has is trying to use a TENGA and the sperm get so lost they teleport into some random woman's vagina

>>149408108
The placenta probably develops into a cyst in his prostatic utrical,probably causing a lot of damage to his prostate and requiring surgery. But, if it happened late enough into the term they might be able to save the baby by transferring them into an artificial womb.

>>149410308
Creating life is considered sacred in literally every religion and belief system in existence, getting pregnant is a spiritual matter and is linked directly to the natural world.

>>149412205
Raises the question, is it gay if both you and your GF got genderswapped and you decided to let her fuck you?

>Be straight man
>Have normal chemical balances that make you love women and want to impregnate them
>Become magically transformed into a woman
>Initially, your straight man-mind will tell you that men are gross and that you still want to impregnate women
>However, your normal female body chemistry will betray you and make you want to love men and become pregnant; becoming a straight woman in the process.
That's the stuff right there.

>>149410274
>>149410331
Anon I hate to break this to you but magic isn't real.
Yes in real life pregnancy isn't some kind of magical event because it's real life. In the land of fiction and fantasy where magic and the like can be real it's different.
In most traditional concepts of magic creating life would be considered sacred because magic is tied to the natural world and the majesty of life is part of what defines nature. So creating life would be "magical" in such a context. Life root to this kind of magic and as a result the act of conceiving life would be a big deal.
This isn't to say that all magic must adhere to this, ones from a more atheistic standpoint like the kind in Harry Potter or Lovecrafting magic which is actively opposing the natural order of thing, but for your typic magical setting that kind of explanation would likely fit.

>>149409923
Its very niche and this was before fanart was really a common thing believe it or not, then again I've seen the creator of the original comic posting AI stuff so maybe time will tell. What do you think of tool assisted webcomic speedruns?

>>149412263
Yep, that's what it's all about baby.

>>149410184
people arent having kids in sweden either, so obviously the problem isnt the walmart debt trap

>>149412205
>>149412241
Of course it isn't is straight sex.

>>149407568
Gender Bender scenarios are interesting because is a way to put a character is a familiar yet alien situation, you can create various scenarios with it from porn logic goon fantasies to mystery or horror all depending on how you approach the subject.

You could play up the sense of alienation with the characters feeling wrong in the new body, or you can play it for laughs having a woman turn guy act like a jackass in a bathroom. You could explore how someone is treated differently if they where a different person as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcdRLzSEe60
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z5zbY-0QCA

>>149406450

>>149410504
So if I fuck a guy who wasn't my friend it would be straight.

>>149413161
>What do you think of tool assisted webcomic speedruns
It's cheap and lacks artistic integrity, but I don't care when it's used for this kind of things cause it barely has any artistic intent in the first place

>>149412995
Setting and contex is the core of all, i have read many hentai were, if the tg guy gets pregnant the transformation becomes permanent, even if the cause is sciense and not magic.
I think is more common not to kill tha baby.

>>149414419
This has diaper fetish energy

>>149414689
Permanent or irreversible for the duration of the pregnancy at the least yeah.

I'm surprised no mtf or ftm tf works have to my knowledge done ye old "the second body is stored in a magical pocket dimension while not in use"

>>149414804
Or you could have a "The substance" situation where you actually have to store the body somewhere while you're not using it

>>149413532
Ok.

>>149411995
Sounds like christian propaganda made to oppress cis women

>>149416373
Your woke lingo feels forced, like you're larping just to make arguments

>>149413532
>Dick in pussy
>Not straight

>>149417774
>>149413532
I think there is a coma missing

>>149408052
Metamorphosis would be a much different book if instead of a giant roach the guy turned into a woman.

>>149394806
Wait the same Sherwood that has Trixie fall in love with Lor? That looks completely different from what I remember.

>>149399854
Of course. Genesis 3:16. Just because you've turned into a girl doesn't mean the rules don't apply.

>>149418137
A giant woman

>>149419116
Is it gay to watch Steven Universe?

>>149419129
>cue SU-themed genderbender dilemma

>>149419368
What dilema?

>>149419462
>"Anon, is it gay to watch Steven Universe?"
>Cut to an undeniably feminine GemAnon.
>"What do you mean by that?"

I don't know really. I hadn't really formed one in my head.

>>149383803 (OP)
Analizing this image for a second I wonder why the guy looks so depressed and if it has anything to do with the 2 dad shirt he wears.

>>149419565
>2 dad shirt
>Dad 2 BEE
>he is about to become a father

>>149419045
Incidentally, this applies to trans women too. Don't become a girl if you're not prepared to take a woman's place. Lesbians are for porn.

>>149386787
>>149386729
I wish this continued, it's pretty funny. Also the cave girl is hot.

>>149387368
>The person Jason is based is now trans
The least surprising thing I could hear, the dude was the one pushing it on the character without a doubt.

>>149397237
>spin off
Wait, what? There's a spin off? About fucking what, nothing ever happens in the comic anymore.

>>149420104
They're referring to the non-canon side stories.

>>149386916
Some artist never got archived like the more popular ones. Some art doesn't get preseeved even by the artist.

>>149418137
One morning, when Gregor Samsa woke from troubled dreams, he found himself transformed in his bed into a gigantic woman.

>>149420692
Was the woman Gigantic, or was his bed just really small?

>>149418137
Honestly that would be a fun idea.

>>149421070
I hate it when I wake up and my bed has shrunk.

>>149414426
If you are not getting off the fact that she used to be a man, then it is straight.

>>149414689
Doesn't Hogwarts have an unofficial spell for abortions?

>>149410654
That is why he is fucking Ranma

>>149421843
Man that one episode of Ranma was pretty cute.

>>149407240
Nah, Namek is the Castle Heterodyne arc in Girl Genius.

>>149410963
That's crazy enough to actually happen.
Or male Ranma buys it, Akane hits him water and Ranko runs after her, Ryoga steals it not knowing what it is as part of a ploy to fight Ranma, but accidentally figures it out and uses it in secret. Ranko fights him, finds it, steals it back, turns it inside out and uses it and falls asleep. Then, she fights her panda dad in the morning and should turn back into Ranma, but cannot because, surprise, she is pregnant! Akane's sisters find the toy, tell Akane she should wash hers after use. Flustered, Akane tries to fight Ranko but is stopped because you can't hit pregnant ladies. Timeskip, Ranko is in the hospital in labor, but the kid gets lost during delivery. Ryoga gets lost on the way to the hospital, finds his child, takes the kid to the hospital, happy reunion. Kid somehow gets Ranko wet, transforming her back into Ranma. Roll credits.

>>149419129
no it´s not gay, it is lesbian

>>149422351
Why would you remind me of that? I was having such a good day.

>>149406285
It really doesn’t since the last major event in 2016 less then 2 weeks in universe has passed. 10 years dealing with the and crap and endless exposition which is EGS biggest problem if you put the constant exposition and repeat plot points the first 100 strips would drop to 90, 200-400 to 200, the last 2000 strips would drop to maybe 200 without the endless retreads

>>149425087
At some point, in the late aughts maybe, Dan tuned in to how autistic his fanbase is and knew he had to start laying things out in exact terms

>>149425278
Dan is also very gunshy of there being any serious stakes in the comic.

>>149419528
R63 Lapis is kinda cute ngl

>>149425424
>"Now that's gay."
>Said Pearl as she fused with Garnet for the 16th time that day.

>>149419368
>>149419528
>Diamonds find a means of turning organic creatures into Gems
>Process always create a Jet (mineraloid created from organic materials)
>All Jets are female regardless of the sex of original person used in the process, due to the nature of Gems

>>149425087
Hey if you don't over explain the characters want to be tf the fandom will think is problematic.

>>149421843
Harry Potter's magic is more on the atheistic side of things. Magic in the setting isn't really "mystical", it's more treated like an applied science if anything. Like the one character who even considers it something like that, Sybill Trelawney, is consistently treated like a joke by the actual series. Them having abortions spells isn't really that weird in context since magic is just a thing people can do rather than something with a greater spiritual connection to the greater world.

>>149425955
>Jets
Could probably do with a better name.

>>149426199
>FETUS DELETUS

>>149426289
>50 POINTS TO GRYFFYNDOR

>>149426227
Are there already Jets in the show or something or am I too autistic to understand an implication

>>149426562
Don't worry, I'm not picking up what anon is putting down either

>>149426562
>>149426655
I just think it could use a better name is all.

>>149426000
I'm pretty sure the writer just wanted to get deep with it rather than is worried about being problematic. Elliot getting with a girl cause he thought she was Tedd is worse than any of the tf shit.

>>149425389
>Dan is also very gunshy of there being any serious stakes in the comic.
Wat?

>>149426806
Fair, it was the first one I had thought of when I came up with the initial idea- Amber/Copal or Coral is also an option from a quick search, since Pearls are already a Gem type, and the other ones I’ve found I consider to be fossils more than anything.

>>149383803 (OP)
It would be gay not to.

>>149407568
Is interesting seeing in the internet (DA) old WOTCH fanart and seeing how people reinterpret the comic, for every "pinup" guy turning into a hot chick moment there are moments of existential horror buried in the story.

Redpill me on I Dream of a Jeanie Bottle and I'll explain the Wotch in the Best/worse way I can.

>>149427400
After watching an I Dream of Jeannie marathon, two friends, a chubby, nerdy guy and a more dude-bro type, find a genie lamp, and the dude-bro friend rubs it. As a result, the dude-bro friend is turned into a genie who looks like a young Barbara Eden, due to considering that the ideal "genie" look, and becomes the genie of that lamp. She/he now goes by Jeanie.
From that point, the stories usually revolve around either: stories that wouldn't be too weird in an actual episode of I Dream of Jeannie (though with added sexually charged, gender-bent elements); stories that revolve around Jeanie trying to hide the fact that she/he got gender-bent from the rest of the world (though some of this has kind of been dropped, especially since her/his given job, movie critic, has kind of been made obsolete in the present day, so she/he just doesn't have a job in more recent chapters); storylines where they interact with other shows from that time, like The Dukes of Hazzard, Gilligan's Island; or genie politics.

>>149427400
After watching an I Dream of Jeannie marathon, two friends, a chubby, nerdy guy and a more dude-bro type, find a genie lamp, and the dude-bro friend rubs it. As a result, the dude-bro friend is turned into a genie who looks like a young Barbara Eden, due to considering that the ideal "genie" look, and becomes the genie of that lamp. She/he now goes by Jeanie.
From that point, the stories usually revolve around either: stories that wouldn't be too weird in an actual episode of I Dream of Jeannie (though with added sexually charged, gender-bent elements); stories that revolve around Jeanie trying to hide the fact that she/he got gender-bent from the rest of the world (though some of this has kind of been dropped, especially since her/his given job, movie critic, has kind of been made obsolete in the present day, so she/he just doesn't have a job in more recent chapters); storylines where they interact with other shows from that time, like The Dukes of Hazzard, Gilligan's Island; or genie politics.

>>149427704
>>149427400
Or stories where Jeanie inflicts petty or careless wishes on people that cross her path/piss her off, generally involving drive by genderbending or her casually putting them in laughably deep shit that they barely squeak their way out of because it's thoroughly a comedy comic.

Also there's a B plot about another genie trying to fuck her best friend and/or "take her out of the picture" because she mistakenly believes Jeanie would give a shit.

And there's a C plot about Jeanie exposing the existence of genies to the feds by being a complete dumbass and a genderbent agent always being a few steps behind her.

Also occasionally Jeanie's ex girlfriend shows up to be a hoe.

>>149427832
I feel like the first two could still fall into "could be actual I Dream a Genie plots but with a fair amount of charged gender bent sexual tensions".

>>149427889
Eh, I remember the genie in that show being more ditzy than mean sprited. Bewitched had more you get what you deserved magic and pettiness.

>>149427704
>>149427832
Ok, The Wotch starts with two friend Robin and Jason meeting this new girl called Anne Onymous, weird shit happens around this chick, and it turns out she is not only a witch but the world’s only Wotch which makes her extra special and unknow to her is destined to fight some evil villain from another world. At least that is what the lore tells you, in reality most of the stories are quite episodic and revolve around some kind of magical shenanigan that causes multiple magical transformations both on purpose and accident, with the main “plot” barely popping its head from time to time just to remind you its there. Tone wise think of Sabrina the teenage witch if by the end of each adventure half of the school is destroyed and most of the people are some flavor of hot chick, monster, inanimate object or anything in between.

Each chapter is a new adventure but among the most notable we have: Them meeting a girl who comes from a family of werewolves, having one of their friends turn into a catgirl, Anne doing that thing from Teen Titans where her personalities become different people causing havoc around the school, meeting some punk chick who accidentally summons a demon, rival warlords showing up to test their might, every person got their lives ruined by Anne’s shenanigans in the past showing up to get her at the same time and more!!!!

The strength of the comic was more situational that anything else, the character for what I remember where likeable and having them in different adventures was fun, I stopped reading the comic after a long hiatus and never bother picking up again, for what I saw the artstyle got better but no idea where the story went.

>>149402669
tried to redraw the cover, and just now I realized this goddammed characters are 70% leg

>>149428030
Lets talk quality, in this day and age where every starving artist has gigas of semi decent art floating around is hard to think of the Wotch as good looking, however I think in the context of the time the comic had a couple of things going for it, first while other webcomics of similar quality where B&W or where short news paper strip style comics. The wotch tried to update full pages in color, this makes it feel more like a comicbook. Second the atstyle slowly gets better, never as good as how EGS becomes but serviceable enough.

I think the characters where the best part of the comic, each having their own lives and levels of awareness of the situation and dealing with the weirdness around them accordingly. Some had fun with the TF like Jason turning into a hot redhead named Sonja Took me years to realize it was an anagram there was this one wizard who was pretty fun who had little to do with the main story but was a delight to see from time to time. Then you have more grounded characters like the school paper guy trying to expose the weirdness not realizing his own classmates where at the center of everything I think his story was one of the more compelling of the bunch, in general the comic had a lot of this kind of characters so your enjoyment if you decide to read the comic has a lot to do with whatever you like the characters or not.

One last thing I think worked in the comic favor was the little extras, before patreon the comic would ask donations with the character getting more TF the more the bar filled with money, you have people making fan animations, fan art and even ICS doing guess art in some issues. Overall I think those little things made the comic more enjoyable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fanPslE1koY

>>149428148
Well, those are some nice legs. Someone early in the thread mentioned how this was the era of "how to draw manga" of webcomics and I agree, shows like Sailor Moon and Utena where also popular at the time so maybe it has to do with that too.

Nice work by the way, your redraw is looking pretty cool.

>>149428206
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fanPslE1koY
The nostalgia on this
Goddamn

>>149405674
Dan was feeling horny

>>149386729
>>149386787
thanks for posting this, it was really good!

Can /co/ recommend anything similar to this?

>>149428206
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fanPslE1koY
Peak.

>>149422426
>the kid gets lost during delivery. Ryoga gets lost on the way to the hospital and finds his child
Big Kek. How did Soun and Genma take that their only male heir is carrying a child?

I take Happosai burst into tears upon learning that someone else took Ranma's first time, but he recovers after a while at the prospect of a grandson, and Akane becomes a slut.

>>149426199
Then, depending on the type of magic, the transformation can be reversed. Let's say that the child was conceived through magic, divine intervention, or other form; it is no guarantee that a miscarriage wouldn't occur, thus the subject returning to its true self.

I wish the old anime had given us more Ryoga/fem Ranma

>>149429799
Ranko being a shameless hoe will never not be funny.

>>149428206
>Second the atstyle slowly gets better, never as good as how EGS becomes but serviceable enough
I feel like this always gets overlooked because, as you said, the improvement wasn't as dramatic as with EGS, but it happened all the time and so gradually that you can only notice when you compare some of the first and last chapters Anne drew

Also, I think its commendable that the comic was never afraid to punch above its weight in terms of visual storytelling due to lack of skill, sure, action sequences may look clunky and awkward but, hey, you learn by doing

>>149430138
>Globi als kantiger Rivale
Ich habe jetzt alles gesehen, dankeschön.

>>149429823
Ranma is so competitive I see him getting pregnant just to show some random pregnant bitch she can do it better that her.

>>149428148
I hope that whoever told the author that this fuck ass hair was a good idea gets neutered

>>149430359
It was the style at the time

>>149430138
People romanticize the early internet as the wild west, while forgetting the slow loading times, the horrible dial up sounds and how hard was to find stuff. But it was an interesting time, I feel the attitude was different back then it felt more genuine, you had many webcomics like the Wotch made by amateurs and you got to see in real time their style improving, you also had people making official or fan animations for something as niche and obscure as this. Those time are gone both for creators and fans who enjoy their stuff but is nice seeing people remember them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPXTBQOnQcA

>>149430695
Slow loadtimes I'll give you, but some days I miss the dial up, and looking for stuff was something that I never saw as an issue if you were willing to trawl and poke your nose through webrings and shit. Plus it made web forums invaluable tools because people shared links and spread word of mouth so much. iirc the Wotch,Valkyrie Yuuki, EGS, Cheer, and a whole bunch of other webcomics were at one point sharing the same forum. That's how I tended to discover shit, just by letting my mouse wander and find all kinds of weird shit.

>>149430695
It was much better as it prior to google and the internet becoming commercialized. Back then if someone had a site about something they had to genuinely care about it.

These days even fan sites are slaves to the advertisers.

>>149430138
It less notable as the WOTCH was much much shorter then EGS, it stopped getting new comics in less then decade. While the much slower and less interesting EGS has been going for over 2 decades now.

>>149431027
>Back then if someone had a site about something they had to genuinely care about it.
This! So much! Now a days engagement is the objective and the subject matter is just a means to an end

>>149430695
Valkyrie Yuuki was something I legitimately got invested into the story of and I wish it continued, it was pretty cool.

>>149427294
>"Thank me for letting you remain human"
I mean, I would've taken being her panties....

>Check Deviant Art
>Search Wotch by most recent
>Still getting fanart this year
>Most of it's by the I Dream of Jeanie Bottle guy
Mildly amusing

>>149431038
It's actually easier to read Wotch than EGS both due to its length and because it's a lot less bogged down by LORE and is more of a goofy transformation comic with semi-dark implications that the writer didn't really focus on too much.

>>149431198
Funny thing this us the edgy fanart interpretation. In the original the guy that gets turned into a chick just gets Identity Death which I'll argue is more messed up if you think about it.

>>149383803 (OP)
>Is it gay to impregnate a woman
No.

>>149431257
Oh I'm aware, though I'd consider the total destruction of one's life and any connection to the previous ones would be worse than identity death, at least in some cases
I say, despite being fond of inanimate/underwear TF while remaining sentient, which is also messed up if you think about it

>>149431303
ICS innanimate bad ends from back in the day scared me out of that subjects. Not quick release, no chance to escape and make things right. You just get turned into a thing unable to move and eventually you stop thinking.

>>149431340
I bypass that by just assuming it's enjoyable to get used/worn particularly if you end up as some girl's or cute guy's clothes and while one doesn't exactly NOT stop thinking, they end up falling into a sorta dream like trance when not in use
Ironically I quite liked ICS's bad end stuff back in the day, and kinda regret not saving stuff from his personally hosted site before it went down
If anyone's got that one pic of his of a 'Wotch AU where the boys trigger a 'get turned into underwear' trap in Anne's room before she even meets them and so doesn't even realize she needs to restore them', I'd be grateful

>>149431340
Could be worse. That one comic of a girl being transformed into an actual dragon's living heart still makes me shudder in disgust

>>149384092
trans fantasy

>>149432151
The dragon heart comic stays with you in the worse way possible.

>>149384092
It's a fetish thing.

>>149432483
You're a fetish thing

>>149431202
It makes sense, he's still pretty active in that specific 2000s gender bent stuff so him doing it isn't surprising.

>>149433317
It's not an easy life, but it is my life.

>>149432151
>htf
>not ctf
Tragic

>>149433464
How do you fetishes have changed over the years? How did we went from guy turning into girl to be specifically this one character from a pixar shoet 30 years ago?

>>149433931
>ESL
Oof.
Also to answer your question: Autism and unfettered internet access. Plus we don't fully understand the human brain at present. So really all we can say is wires get crossed and here we are. At least those are my two cents.

>>149430695
I think the "settled" 2000's was the best era, not too wild west but not too "civilized"

>>149434513
Agreed.

>>149433716
Is odd, I've read more disgusting stuff both as horror and porn before and after dragon heart but that one is the one that stuck with me in a haunting way.

>>149431340
Fortunately I will never be TF'd into a 50 year old pinoy.

>>149435955
Or a ball.

>>149433716
Truly

>>149435955
>>149436081
I’ve had an idea for a little while that people who become objects eventually just turn into shapeshifters once the magic is fully integrated into their soul
It might be cope, but I find the idea cool

>>149435078
Yeah, I don't know what's more horrific to consider, the implication that every heart beat is the equivalent of a bone shattering seizure for the victim, or the implication that they're still conscious even as they're reduced to a quivering mass of muscle living inside the dragon

>>149436907
>Get TF'd into some bitch's new t-shirt by her witch of a friend
>Spend a few days/weeks/maybe longer (it's hard to keep track of time when you're a shirt) helpless
>After a bit though, discover that if you embrace the 'shirtness' inflicted on you by the spell you can sorta control the magic
>It's only small changes at first, stuff like design, style, size, etc, true, but making her walk around with an ill-fitting "I'm stupid" shirt or other degrading phrases is always funny
>And later on you manage to figure out how to twist the concept of 'shirtness' into 'clothesness', letting you turn yourself into other types of clothing, then other cloth items, then other cloth-like materials entirely
>No matter how in sync with the magic you get though, you're stuck as objects though, but at least you can make her think her house is haunted... or spend her morning showers as a soap bar

>>149437188
>as time goes on you slowly evolve
>the magical bonds of concepts slowly morph from objects to the concept of inanimate itself
>eventually you manage to turn yourself into a machine and from then on your prospects expand dramatically
>you can feel the periodic table with you, perfect knowledge on how to become any type of thing.
>eventually you try your first animal… a slug, and your mind expands.
>by the time you’ve learned how to become human again, you no longer consider yourself one of them. You are something stronger, wiser, superior.
>one day the witch spots you. She tries to turn you back into a shirt.
> you eat the spell it tasted heavenly

>>149422426
Someone asked Rumiko Takahashi, the mangaka, what would happen if girl-Ranma got pregnant.
She replied that it was best not to even think about such things.

>>149405674
Sarah (left) and Tedd (right) have been doing transformation-related research, and have become comfortable enough with it to engage in casual physical contact. That's a pinup in which a canon-plausible situation (Sarah gets ice cream on herself during a break and Tedd cleans it off) is treated with the horniess that readers might be thinking of instead of the in-story novelty of the situation having worn off long ago.

>>149430695
>while forgetting the slow loading times, the horrible dial up sounds and how hard was to find stuff.
that was ultimately part of the appeal. the inconvenience of the internet meant it was distinctly separate from 'the real world'
now the internet and the real world completely overlap, making both objectively worse for it

>>149383803 (OP)
I like sex-swap settings where it becomes permanent if she gets pregnant.

Never thought I'd hear anyone talking about The Wotch in the year of our Lord 2025, but here we are

>>149437678
GB couples are pretty hot.

>>149438503
A rare treat indeed

>>149437188
>>149437277
Unironically sounds like a good story.

>>149391493
You do know that sex is not obligatory right? If men were turned into women I bet most would go on living without ever seekint sex with men, at most they would try to be lesbians and the second the lesbian sticks a dildo up their ass they will choose to be voluntary celibates

>>149438733
>and the second the lesbian sticks a dildo up their ass they will choose to be voluntary celibates
Ah yes, cause if there's one thing that causes people to go celibate, it's consensual anal sex with the sex they are attracted to.

I mean seriously, who likes anal sex? It's not like the anus is an erogenous zone or anything. Next you'll tell me people like kissing or having their nipples played with.

>>149437049
Damn, I've never though I would be analyzing the dragon Heart comic. I think what makes it horrifying in the first place is that is in fact meant to be horrible, Sure now a days there is tons of CtF or merging but that often looks tame it isn't draw to create repulsion, the dragon comic does feel like is suppose to be horror, there is also so matter of fact, a girl gets kidnapped by some animal and gets absorbed inside a creature for it to live, there is no sentimentality just the blunt horror of being used and consumed, and the implication of still being alive inside the dragon beating while slowly degenerating into a heart is terrible.

>>149439082

>>149431215
The episodic nature of the comic also works well in its favor, each adventure is mostly self contained in a way it feels like a show from that era like Sabrina the Teenage Witch or Buffy, sure there was a bigger plot going on but the adventures themselves where one and done for the most part.

>>149439082
God damn, I'd forgotten this fucked up shit existed. What's ICS doing now?

>>149439140
...Why's he mentioning her top? It doesn't look like anything's happening to it?

>>149439169
Mostly cute/trans positive art

>>149395914
I remember this one had a very uncomfortable scene where the chick had to come clean to his mom, and had to convince her of who she was. I think that is something you see little in this kind of stories and that is the fact that the victims loose their identities, nobody is going to believe they are who they say they are so question of where are they gonna live or eat start popping up.

>>149438503
Oh, the wotch still has fans, more than you think but less than you hope, but between the comic being old as fuck, the niche subject and being prone to multi year long hiatuses its extremely rare to gather enough fans to keep a thread alive more than a few hours

>>149439434
Doesn't help that OP image is from a different comic asking a completely different question, then again maybe that brought more attention to this thread that an actual WOTCH thread would.

I wonder if people would be ok if one storytime the comic here, the early art is bottom of DA tier so maybe mods would see it as spamming, there is also the fetish subject being fertile ground for the threads going to hell and getting deleted

>>149439082
This is from the same age as zippo cat and Mai-chan's Daily Life (or right after that era anyway) so this never had much of an impact on me.

I think Cassie was pretty up there as a early 2000s gothgirl.

>>149439140
>I don't think anyone's going to care what I'm wearing
Dumb slut. You could have been wearing cat a maid outfit.

>>149439196
On review, it seems that Cassie usually wears a long coat over her shirt, which could be what the other character is holding. Still odd to call it a "top" in context.

>>149439517
I mean, storytiming old webcomics sounds fun, but it seems liked it'd be a pain to get all the panels.

>>149439816
True. She's quite cute.

>>149440341
Well thanks to anon I got all (most) of EGS
So look forward to that in the coming weeks
Maybe

>>149440921
Bro you are going to be here for literal years.

ICS was the one legacy of that fandom.

>>149440926
If'n I do it I was thinking of blasting out like 100 strips a day

Just out of curiosity anywhere I can read how to get all the stuff storytimers use to dump the comics automatically? like how much does it cost and what plug ins do you need?

>>149440964
It'd still be a long while. There's like, what, 20+ years worth of pages?

>>149440927
This one character reminds me naruto was just becoming a thing back when this comic started

>>149440978
Yeah just over a month, month and a half if I do the Newspaper strips too

>>149440977
Automatically?

>>149439434
I wonder... if someone new started a comic like The Wotch now, would it have any hope of surviving? Or is it too much a relic of its time and would die because it can't live in the current internet/social/political climate?
Assume it has passable art for the modern day, not literally The Wotch.

>>149441025
Isn't there a way to auto post images for storytimes?

>>149441036
No, troons would freak out if it wasn't sanitized and mushy-shippy enough for them

>>149441036
That.... is not something I can answer for sure, the comic is innocent enough to be innocuous to a modern audience, it has shipping and fun adventures which is something audiences likes and the large character roster is like a toybox of fandoms to do their worse (technically it started as the toybox and then became a comic) So it has already that as it advantage. The gender politics are dated though but I think no matter what you do you couldn't make a comic with TG elements without angering some group, I think EGS is long and talkative precisely to avoid the ire of those groups and I think is worse because of it.

>>149441036
I think that any comic that has such a strong transformation focus in 2025 is going to be expected to be at least kinda lewd. It doesn't have to be pornographic, it doesn't have to SHOW it, but audiences would expect the comic to recognize that Jason is 100% masturbating as Sonja. The PG-rating of The Wotch is very much a product of its time, and thats just not how the internet functions anymore.

>>149441189
I think the OG comic is a pervy as Ranma was back in the day, I think there is a place for something like this in this day and age, you would just need to rewrite it a little.

>>149441036
It's hard to really say.
Even on just the base level, the medium of webcomics has become completely different. The era of independent webcomics hosted on a site you own is basically dead outside of a few edge cases and people who have been making them for over a decade.
Even if we ignore that, I don't really think it'd catch on. The era of kids randomly stumbling onto a webcomic and then reading it consistently for the foreseeable future is over. The internet has become too consolidated, which ironically makes things more insular, so unless a comic is directly introduced to someone or that person is the type who actively looks for webcomics, it's rare that a series gets a sizable audience. The era where "I was ping-ponging between a bunch of webcomics 'cause I was bored and ended up on this one that I find interesting," or "some guy on a forum (that isn't 4chan) mentioned it so I started reading it," is long since dead.
Also, about the subject matter, I doubt anyone would actually care. Webcomics are niche enough that no one is going to write a think piece about it, but that's more because basically no one will likely see it.

>>149441550
>Even if we ignore that, I don't really think it'd catch on
Most webcomics never caught on. And even beyond that, whether a webcomic caught on and whether it lasted was often 2 different thing. Webcomics have always been a mix of passion projects, new artists experimenting, shit put out by borderline corporate collectives, and transparent ads for art commissions. Although more often than not, the best way to catch on was to simply not die because the comic is a passion project its creator enjoys making. I think a lot of people read webcomics for the familiarity. They're like newspaper comics. They don't have to be magnificent. They just have to be consistent.
>it's rare that a series gets a sizable audience
Always has been
>The era of kids randomly stumbling onto a webcomic and then reading it consistently for the foreseeable future is over
Disagree. There are plenty of webcomics on social media and art hosting sites that still function like that.

Also, if anything, the amount of good, long running webcomics has increased with time as the internet has grown. It's easier nowadays than it used to be to keep your shit going and there's more people entering the space every day. The genre's definitely more decentralized, but if anything it's healthier than it used to be. Oh, and obviously nowadays not everyone's working off the same 5 how to draw manga books.

>>149441737
OK "catch on" may not have been the right words but I do feel there's a tangible difference between the communities around the kind of comics now than back then.
The only genre of webcomic that I think is really healthier would be like full gag comic, the rest mostly just get lost in the endless sea of nothingness which is the modern social media sites.
Also yeah, the longer things go on the more things which have lasted exist. That's how time works.

>>149442400
>Also yeah, the longer things go on the more things which have lasted exist. That's how time works.
That's not actually how media works. Mediums and genres die. It is not a guarantee that a style of work will be in a healthy state as time goes on. Exhibit A: American comic books

>>149430359
Changed the style a little to make it less like a copy

>>149443036
Looks great anon!, you did a pretty cool update of the old designs.

>>149443036
Very nice!

>>149443036
Is a very good work anon, pretty wild seeing new stuff from this old comic.
A little constructive critism, the possition of the arm of the brown girl looks a little odd, I get is a redraw so I recon thats how it looks in the original.

>>149440927
I wish the Wotch at least posted a rough outline for how they would've ended the whole Worlock vs Wotch thing.

>>149441036
The thing js, the Wotch didn't treat transformation extremely sexually or anything, it was more like those old TV show episodes with TFs but put to comic form. Sure, the writer definitely has a odd interest in transformation, but they have enough integrity to keep it in their pants and use the concept to write something either funny, suspenseful, or action based than sexual, which I'm not sure could really be done today and have the same success the Wotch did. I would like to believe so, and a Wotch-like comic of some kind could work, but i don't know for sure.

>>149443036
>girl with a Robin-like tan is brown
Outside of that, pretty good.

>>149444446
Same, if only cause the whole Worlock shit was so insanely far removed from the cute camp adventures of the rest of the comic that it's one of the few things I kept coming back to see.

>>149444496
There was a rounchy side to it with Jason being kind of a perv as Sonja but nothing more outrageous that something you could in a late night sitcom

That being said, no matter how tame people now a day would find it problematic

>>149444559
The chinese teacher that turned into a japanese school girl with broken engrish comes to mind

>>149444559
Yeah, that's why I compared it to all those 90s-2000s TV show episodes with magic transformations and stuff; the Wotch was basically those but condensed into a single webcomic where that concept was a key focus for gags and plot lines

>>149444551
The site is still up but it seems the last main story update was in 2023. If I remember correctly, a big problem they had was getting a consistent artist after their original one stepped down, so it's entirely possible that the writer might have a rough outline already written out and they just can't get anyone to stick around and draw it.

>>149444649
That would make sense. More than a few webcomics that were a two-person team would die off if the writer or artist fucked off. Megatokyo is a notable exception, and it's only just above the state of death. Still, even if I'm not much of a fan of this comic anymore, knowing what the end game was going to be always made me curious. Feels like the creators bit off more than they can chew with this, really, like when they were trying and failed to make a GBA game spinoff.

>>149444701
>would die off if the writer or artist fucked off
Amusingly if I recall the RL Anne was the actual writer and artist, and if I remember right SHE stepped down and find a new artist to continue working on it. I don't really remember any major drama over this, so I guess she just got tired of doing it? Going of the current staff page, Robin is still the assistant writer and colorist, with some other dudes being the main writer and artist now.
>Feels like the creators bit off more than they can chew with this, really, like when they were trying and failed to make a GBA game spinoff
Hearing this now, it all really fit with the TV show vibe I got from the comic to the point where i think they legit tried to treat it like Ranma or Sabrina as some real IP that they could grow beyond the comic, but either misaligned their expectations or misjudged what they could actually accomplish and botched their growth by overstretching themselves. Sort of reminds me of some of the less crazy rumors of what happened to the late 2000s internet musician Dr. Steel and why he disappeared.

>>149444969
>but either misaligned their expectations or misjudged what they could actually accomplish and botched their growth by overstretching themselves
Sadly happens a lot. I remember more than a few webcomics trying to become more than they were, like the ill-fated CAD show, and just having to accept they diidn't have the creativity for that. I guess part of why I'm more curious on the Wotch video game was that they used to have a video linking to alpha footage, meaning someone actually did try and put tie and effort into making it into an actual spinoff game.

>>149445055
>like the ill-fated CAD show
You've now reminded me of Least I Could Do

>>149444580
But that was clever because later on is the fact she came off as such a weird nonsense stereotype (Japanese girl with Chinese name) that is how they figured out she was one of the transformation victims. I thought that part if the story was pretty cool.

>>149383803 (OP)
If anything it's the most straight option in the world
>female body
>still a somewhat male mind so you don't have to deal with gay mind games and back and forth
It's just an advanced form of tomboy

>>149445055
>video linking to alpha footage, meaning someone actually did try and put tie and effort into making it into an actual spinoff game.
Damn, now I'm curious about it.

>>149445148
At that point just cut out the middle man and go straight for tomboy content.

>>149445148
I wonder how much if your mind is software and hardware. If a guy becomes a woman wouldnd he suddenly star noticing thing only women care about?

>>149391493
Could always just be a dyke anon

>>149399854
From a man no, from a futa since we're talking impossible hypothetical situations, maybe

>>149439169
>>149439237
I remember and old comic of his, where he portrayed fans asking him to drawn even more fucked up stuff, and he just nope the hell out of it. I guess that after a while, even if he had that taste for "dark stuff" he realize he wasn't that into it to deal with the hardcore fans it could bring up. Even know when he (rarely) draws petrification stuff, he knows does it a more light hearted and comedic way.

>>149445085
That's somehow still going, btw

>>149445124
iirc from the writer commentary, it wasn't really intended to be a writing clue so much as just an homage to a friend's OC, whose thing was basically talking like Shampoo from Rannma 1/2. The whole storyline of the characters going off to deal with the aftereffects of Anne's msadventures was written in hindsight to reader comments on their forum, in fact, to establish that either characters were happy with their transformations or otherwise someone was going around diminishing the problems preventing them from living a normal enough life. I want to say it was also around the time that the fan comc focusing on the tg'd cheerleaders started, since the main story settled that everything was hunky dory with them and their friends/families.

>>149445225
I don't know if anyone has access to the footage, but it was a basic overhead action adventure game like Legend of Zelda. And the sprites were fittingly competently made.

>>149443036
This looks amazing Anon! I'm for real here, I actually keep regular contact with the Author of I Dream of Jeanie, who knows host the archive site for Cheers (And to a lesser extend the authors of the Wotch, but just casually. Discord stuff only) I would like to share this work with them, and some old school fans, but not sure how to credit your work now.

>>149444969
>I don't really remember any major drama over this, so I guess she just got tired of doing it?
Iirc she got divorced, that and some other stuff that they made allusion but never disclosed took a toll on her so she had to step down

>>149445419
>The whole storyline of the characters going off to deal with the aftereffects of Anne's msadventures
Which brings up one the plot points I liked; a wotch can't undo another wotch's magic
She can put a bit of a patch job over it but that's it, and then the first wotch can't undo that patch job
Which gets you stuff like the centaur lady

>>149445694
While I still suspect it was a bit of a patch job to explain why Anne couldn't just snap her fingers and make everything back to normal, I will agree that they did manage to roll with it in a way that makes sense and doesn't just paper over everything that happened before.

>>149445939
I'd say it's one of the few strong points of the Wotch that it had over other comics; the transformations that stuck wasn't handwaved away or reversed, it had a sort of finality to them even if the outcome wasn't "bad", and showed that you should be careful about how the protagonist should use their power. It was also a good response to from a written perspective too as a way to answer the readers questions about why Anne hadn't been caught without just doing something hamfisted or insulting.

>>149444032
>the brown girl looks a little odd
I agree, I kept it cause she was the first one I drew, but I should probably make that hand into a fist like the other.

>>149444535
I couldn't resist my instincts, plus, and I think its a nice contrast to the rest of the group being different flavours of blonde.

>>149445424
It's Gear, I just don't like using my name in every thread

>>149446415
Oh shoot, Gear! Should had recognize your style before! Love your work, but I guess I was to used to the more cartoony characters!

>>149445055
>>149445225
>>149445419
>Wotch Vydia
That would've been cool, I'm now sad I'm only just now finding out about it

Roger x Neil is funny to me for some reason.

>>149383803 (OP)
>Is it gay to impregnate [...] a girl

>>149447569
It's because Neil is best girl.

>>149447726
>Neil is best girl
Nah, best grills are Caley, Agent Blanco, Alya, and Red

>>149447839
Why is the blue shirt guy some kind of alien?

>>149447879
He's just wearing glasses. He'd never even seen a real life alien until recently.

>>149447879
Those were suppose to be sunglasses, but just as with Melvin (the other kid) the middle piece seems to be lost.

>>149447839
You support for Red is highly appreciated.

>>149445694
>>149446369
You might enjoy 'The Shape-Changer's Wife' by Sharon Shinn if you haven't read it. Transformation, the process of understanding and potential dangers of attempting to undo one, are central to the story.

>>149447726
Holy fuck, just remember Magical girl Neil exist.

>>149383803 (OP)
Yes. The only straight thing to do when genderswap happens is for the victim to be totally asexual.

>>149384092
Typically it's magic done to male character to teach them the errors of their chauvinistic ways.
If they were frumpy they would just be ignored by men

>>149390975
https://murryandlewy.com/
This is the other one

Japan will always make genderbending as a genre cool for the most part.

>>149445233
Tomboys are still at least 4 crazy.
https://youtu.be/bbpGkrViOcE

>>149450291
That artstyle was so recognizable in the middle 00s.

>>149452556
He's still around, on https://nagasden.com/ though I think only patrons see updates these days.

>>149452732
I really liked the weird TFs of that site. No idea it was still going.

>>149450291
>>149452732
If back in the day there where artist we saw develop in real time, I feel the one form Naga's den just popped up fully formed with the most recognizable artstyle of the bunch. You see their fanart and you know who did without fail.

Also I don't remmeber anything about this webcomic except at some point they mention the GB version of AA exist in universe.

>>149451062
Sucks the States isn't more down with it.

>>149451062
>>149453598
>No super popular manga where like, 10 arcs in the MC gets turned into a chick and is left like that for the next 20 arcs

>>149453762
Ayakashi triangle sort of was bait and switch, it starts with the ninja guy and a couple of chapters in she turns into a ninja girl with huge boobs.

>>149453939
Huh, nice. It any good?

>>149454014
I enjoyed it, its sort of like early Bleach if you read that manga, monster of the week, ninjas fighting Yokai having a good mix of fights and slice of life shenanigans, The protagonist is stuck as a girl but the story never forget that she used to be a guy so there is always the tension of him wanting to turn back, having to deal with acting girly or having to give away certain masculine traits to level up as a ninja.
One interesting point is that the "perv" for once is a girl so is also fresh in that respect. Its also short so you can give it a read and have a satisfying conclusion even if it ends in "the adventure continues" kind of way.

>>149454344
Might check it out then

>>149454344
Neat.

>>149452732
Holy hell, it's still up. I remember finding this site back when it was dark purple and grey with the stone texture.

>>149453762
There's one of the modern-day portal invasion ones where the MC picks up a magic item that lets him disguise as a girl. He never stops using it and everybody refers to him as his girl persona.

>>149437620
Except in the Manga itself there are a lot of examples of pregnancies after dipping in the pool. So she did think about it and wrote about it that it can happen.

>>149456361
Its not about if she could or could not get pregnant at all, the actual question was "what would happen to the baby if fem Ranma got pregnant and then turned into a man"

>>149456390
Then the genre would shift to Omegaverse.

>>149430695
>>149430743
>>149434513
>>149437943
>>149455700
There must be something about old website exploring that is great because someone made an entire videogame about exploring the equivalent of Geosites webpages

>>149443036
FINISHED

>>149456911
and a little idea I had. imagine this as the cover under first one, like in a manga.

>>149456911
>>149456922
Its a pretty good picture, you really outdid yourself. I specially like the leader, she has a great smug aura on her face. Pigtails girl eyebrows makes me think she hides real pain behind the cheery smile.

Also the second page is a cool concept, I would watch a comic about just the cheerleader having an existential crisis wanting to play football.

>>149457105
>>149456922
>Everyone is nicer to her and her friends
>In fact they've all gone up in social status now that nobody thinks they're just "the dumb jocks"
>They're all able to be open about both their nerdier interests like TTRPG (The tomboy) and Military History (the leader) or girlie ones like sewing (the dirty blonde one)
>They can even talk about it with others without losing their social status or getting their life ruined
>Even her friends are happier!
>So why does her heart still ache?
Cheer was really good at characterization, to this day I still remember most of the main characters and their interests.

Also Rita has French ancestry I think? Weird to see her colored like that, either way very nice work on both covers, you're a good artist

>>149386953
I know when I read it back in the 2010s it went on a hiatus, forgot about it, then when I remembered it existed last year I checked to see it had finished. Interesting way of resolving the points of “I want to turn back into a man” and “my life is kind of better as a girl”.

>>149457267
>>149457989
>Everything is better, why do I hate it?
Pic related comes to mind.

>>149384092
Tbh, Dex ain't ugly in his adult years.

>>149433464
Damn, I didn't know you were breedable anon

>>149420656

>>149458988
He is only ugly in hus teens.

>>149459560
All those precious moments gone, like tears in rain.

>>149410146
Ah the ol' delusional grievance astroturfing, it's a classic!

>>149443036
>>149456911
>>149456922
Cool stuff, cheer(s)!

>>149383986
>>149387258
>>149387734
>>149388061
>>149392089
It's funny seeing this shitty late 90s 'gamer comic' art style again, after I dunno how many years?

>>149456911
>>149456922
Nice.

>>149457267
>Also Rita has French ancestry I think? Weird to see her colored like that,
Is a Tomboy Tan™, they issue it to you when you get that haircut

>>149461810
My bad, didn't see the tanlines there.

>>149457105
>I would watch a comic about just the cheerleader having an existential crisis wanting to play football.
I think that could work as a fast recall of the events of the comic but adding her actual inner thoughts through the series.

>>149461010
Is endearing, just guys learning to draw to show their ideas, instead of doing it for fame with pre made assets.

>>149461975
To be fair that outfit is what would leave the tan lines so to appreciate them she should be wearing something skimpier, or a bikini, that goes for all of them, just sayin'

>>149461010
>after I dunno how many years?
Like, 30 years I'd assume

>>149458345
Tbh, she had time to (sort of) grow up mentally. Being stuck in Fairyland when you're not 8yo probably starts to suck after a while.

We're close to bump limit so I'd like to say that this has been an unexpectedly comfy thread, I'd offer to take a few request but I doubt I'd finish them before the thread dies, if someone makes another thread in the not so near future I'd try to draw something

>>149462384
It would be interesting to explore the mindset of this jocks, sure they've been basically brainwashed with new memories but there is a sense that enough of their former selves is there to not consider it a total identity death. Now the one girl who does remember is an interesting case because she clearly has the old memories but also enough of a new different personality that she can notice she used to think and act different. Sort of like those people who get brain damage and suddenly become different despite being the same person.

>>149464683
It was a fun walk through memory lane this thread, I'm glad we could discuss this old comics and the internet experience from back in the day.

Storytiming The Wotch after the thread dies, yay or nay?

>>149465311
I would read it.

>>149465311
One less bait thread out on 4chan is objectively an improvement

>>149457267
>Also Rita has French ancestry I think? Weird to see her colored like that, either way very nice work on both covers, you're a good artist
First, Thanks, second, what does the french ancestry change here? Are there no brown french people?

>>149463491
I feel like you are trying to convince me to do something but I'm not quite sure

>>149465311
I just started reading it so I think it's a cool idea

>>149465311
Yey, it's good enough and we'll written enough that I feel it would be fun.

>>149465717
>Are there no brown french people?
....I mean, the Corsican people like Napoleon are tan, but it's more a sun-kissed tan, so I guess I depends on what you think 'brown' is? I dunno, this feels like a loaded question.
>I just started reading it so I think it's a cool idea
Glad to see you're enjoying it, the Wotch is a fun ride overall and has a bunch of different stories too.

>>149464677
Does not help she had a terrible first impression that probably traumatized her.

>>149465311
I'd probably stick around for that
Honestly I was really just waiting on this thread to die before I started dumping EGS

>>149465293
An interesting thing about The Wotch's transformations (and Cheer! by extension, I presume) is that the longer someone stays transformed they start developing a separated persona while the original is dormant, if that translates into the jocks being trapped but fully aware or in stasis, since they were brainwashed instead of willingly transformed like Jason, is something the comic has yet to address

>>149466262
>2018
WHAT.

>>149466409
It's last story upload (for now) was in 2023.

>>149466262
>transformation magic causes DID
Now that's some creepy shit

>>149466594
Yeah, but it oddly makes sense in a way, in line with how adaptable humans are know to be. How would the mind cope with such a difference in self? Develop some form of DID for when one is transformed so you stay sane and can function as usual.

>>149466262
Elliot in EGS works similarly. He has 3 female transformations, each with their own personality.

Honestly I wish more transformation works would play with that sorta shit. DID's a really fun plot device and I'd like more works dealing with characters balancing sharing a body with alters or weighing whether to go crazier to get a new form or not. You usually only see that sorta shit with stolen forms.

>>149466763
Like I remember this one series I was skimming where a slime can copy the forms from what it eats and when presented with some shitbag rapists she opts to just murder them instead while commenting that she doesn't want to share a body with them.

>>149458345
For Misfile, I think either his dad was still alive or he wasn’t estranged from his mom in the timeline created from him having always been a girl.

>>149466813
Yeah it was that he got back in contact with his mom
He couldn't send the letter to her before because that would mean admitting to having emotions as a teenage boy

>>149466594
>>149466763
>>149466793
Not GB but there was this webcomic where one of the character was this powerful mind reader who basically automatically absorbs the entire mind and thoughts of everyone around him like a sponge so inside his mind there is a huge city populated by a copy of the mind of every person he has ever meet.

>>149466843
Ah right, that’s what it was, I must have gotten the dad coming back to life thing from something else.

>>149466881
>there was this webcomic where one of the character was this powerful mind reader who basically automatically absorbs the entire mind and thoughts of everyone around him like a sponge so inside his mind there is a huge city populated by a copy of the mind of every person he has ever meet.
That feels like it would be annoying for everyone involved.

>>149465717
>I feel like you are trying to convince me to do something but I'm not quite sure
I have no idea what are you talking about

On an unrelated note, I didn't know the artist was still drawing the girls as recently as of last year

>>149465896
>this feels like a loaded question.
I'm sorry, it was my intention, I just really didn't know why that would make it weird for the character to be browner.
Anyway I probably need to make the tan lines visible to make it less confusing

>>149467439
Nah, you're good. It's more me getting a 'Nam flashback to what they did to Starfire in the Teen Titans live action show, or what I've seen happen to other tan-ish characters. Which is stupid because 1. I forgot tans can be darker than a olive color and 2. This is fanart of a webcomic and I'm overthinking shit. My bad, forgive me.

>>149467439
I think anon was reminded of when people were calling Nagatoro black even though she had a swimmers tan lol

>>149467781
Man , that was indeed stupid, I think I can make her black If you want but pretending the character is black and getting mad when other don't depicts her as that is ridiculous

>>149467335
Thanks, I didn't know the artist was still active

>>149384194
>>149385959
But I like when there is at least the basic premise of the friend trying to help his buddy through a hard time and they slowly fall in love.
>inb4 trans analogy
No, that's dumb, if it doesn't end with a shot of them married or pregnant I get blueballed pretty hard.

>>149467229
Most don't know he read minds but he does comes like an autism to his one friend, one advantage is that he understand everyone he meets since he basically experienced their entire lives in a second, he uses this to convince people to do help him since he knows what they really want and also his minions follow him because they don't need to justify themselves to him.

>>149466931
I remember an old maybe CG comic where one of the guys turns into a hot chick, but the change is retroactive so in this new timeline his/her dad is alive.

>>149467335
Lol I was here feeling like I made a weird change to the original design, but the OG artist made her brown too

>>149469161
Weird that they also made that change despite it not making any sense. Guess people just associate a dark tan with tomboys for some reason. Heck japanese art especially plays up how tan people who spend most of their time outdoors can get.

>>149469802
I guess its one of those design choices that work so well that people just assume thats how things should be by default, like redheads wearing greens or dwarves talking with scottish accents

>>149470012
The redheads and green is actually color theory, green, orange and purple complement each other.

Also, have you guys ever seen redheads that are tomboys but without being also beefcakes?

>>149466662
I think it could be as simple as the code-switching we already do. Like how you speak and act differently depending on if you're with your parents, your friends, or your co-workers, you'd probably develop a set of consistent behaviors for Girl Mode that you'd eventually slip into without missing a beat.

>>149467335
>>149469161

>>149469161
As an observer, this innocent tan situation really got out of control and I'm pretty entretained by it. Sorry to laugh but I find the whole exchange pretty funny.

>>149467954
Nah, she's hotter with the tan and it's more accurate to her normal design, you did fine. I'd just do what you suggested and make the tan line more obvious

>>149471063
Could've been worse, the annual usagi yojimbo storytime had a heated and I mean HEATED argument over backpacks during feudal japan

>>149472469
Still far superior to yesterday's Archie "The South were the REAL good guys in the Civil War" slap fight.

I have some things to take care of this morning, but when I get home I'll start The Wotch storytime in another thread.

>>149472722
Roger

Good thread. See you all in like a year or whatever.