Thread 149387392

Why is everyone saying this now? Why are people saying kindness is punk? Do people not know what Punk is

Punk is in opposition to whatever the current belief system is. And kindness is not in vogue.

>>149387392 (OP)
look buddy, you are not real hardcore hurtcore blackcore nine inch nails (the band) punk if you are not helping the elderly and saving cats, it's the new meta and if you don't like it then kill yourself (actually don't kill yourself, you are beautiful and if you need help please call your local suicide line.)

Being a trad male superhero is punk rock.

I'm really starting to get the feeling that people only like this movie because they think it's anti-Trump

>>149387392 (OP)
Literally something the movie mentions, and the credits music is this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P09rxVaQAM&list=PLBKadB95sF46qi0YM04ocYykbwBvNhzu5&index=32

>>149387476
The Twitter controversy that got Gunn fired from Disney was literally spurred by people who were mad at Gunn for badmouthing Trump. To the degree that any work reflects the beliefs of the creator whose mind it came from, the movie must be anti-Trump.

>>149387392 (OP)
>Superman is punk rock
Yeah, Superman listening to songs about getting dumped and doing adderall makes total sense.

Seriously...what is this shit?

>>149387392 (OP)
In a society that is so irony-posioned that any sign of genuiness is labeled as cringe, people more comfortable being cruel to each other and to a government that is more then happy dance on the graves and arrests of others. Being kind really is counter culture right now

>>149387507
Really I thought it was the 10,000 pedophile Tweets Gunn posted.

>>149387501
Yeah we know. We’re more confused why Superman the 100 year old “obey the police and do as you’re told” boomer is calling himself punk rock now

>>149387392 (OP)
>punk rock
Extremely gay, full of violent faggots, and then retcon'd by hipsters into being an artist, noble movement of warrior poets who never actually existed?

>>149387531
That's senator Ted Cruz, one of Trump's biggest sycophants at the time. You're proving my point.

>>149387548
But what about Gunn's pedophile tweets?

>>149387526
This. The terminally online current administration doesn’t help either.

>>149387392 (OP)
Superman always felt more like a country music kind of dude to me.

>>149387564
Even before the cancelation he had bought up his past and apologized for the shit he did and showed he was pretty much a different person. The reason people don't give a shit about the tweets is cause Gunn has should actual change from who he was and people see it.

Compare that to a similar situation that was going on at the time with Rosanne Barr where she blamed it on sleeping pills and then continued being a shitty person

>>149387564
I'm not rehashing this shit. I'm pointing out that it was a politically motivated smear job. The people who found those tweets did so because they were looking for anything they could use to create a narrative against him. And the motivation was to get someone fired who was a major public critic of their beloved leader. He's more reserved with his public critiques now that he's the face of a whole franchise, but there's no reason to believe his beliefs have changed.

Punk is counter culture. We're living in an era where "What if Superman was Evil" stories are he norm, between Invincible, Injustice, The Boys, etc. So in that way, a reconstruction of Superman where he doesn't even like swearing is kinda counter culture.

>>149387564
Release the list.

>>149387392 (OP)
Superman has bucked a trend.

>>149387392 (OP)
It was a cheesey thing to say for a cheesey guy.

>>149387400
Always a dumb thing to say about punk. To he anti-authority, anti-system, it's better to be angry and disruptive. Smiling and shows you're fine with how things are. It's an easy and cooperative neolib way to be where even your words and protest are easy to dismiss and work around.

>>149387849
Looks like anon doesn't know Game Theory and can't conquer with kindness and strategy.

>>149387548
>guy gets outed as a pedo
>everyone hates him for it
>"wow republicans hate this guy so it's clearly a political thing"
holy retard

>>149387400
Punk is a manufactured music movement designed to sell clothes, mostly inhabited by rich art school kids

>>149387400
Punk isn’t contrarianism

>>149387539
This guy's in his 20s

>>149387392 (OP)
Superman is still a man of law and order.

>>149387649
>Punk is counter culture
If this was true that means that punk in 2025 means you are heterosexual, don't believe in gender theory, don't support LGBTQ+, don't believe in man made climate change, don't support abortion aka baby murder, believe in God and started your own nuclear family with a tradwife. By this definition, conservative Muslims and Christians are the true punks of current year.

>>149387979
The Sex Pistols were created as an advertisement to sell boutique fashion items at a posh London boutique. The first punks were gay and bisexual wealthy art school kids from London who wore bondage gear in public like every day was a pride parade.

>>149388005
Also punk in 2025 means you're anti-covid vaccine and a Wuhan lab scamdemic truther. Otherwise you're a conformist establishment normie.

>>149387392 (OP)
So does that mean in a few years kindness is Emo?

>>149387392 (OP)
Firing off early, they should save such a line for Conner to say to Superman after seeing him not flinch from everything Manchester Black says and does before gladly taking up the name Superboy.

>>149388005
muslims aren't punk because the whole establishment is tripping over itself to suck islam's dick. but otherwise yes you are correct.

>>149387891
I get that, but that works situationally. I'm not saying aimlessly collapse and attack, cooperate and be good where necessary. Like stoicism is good, but it can be used to keep you pacified.

>>149388124
>because the whole establishment is tripping over itself to suck islam's dick

Is that why people on the right have spent the past month spamming islamophobic shit about Zohran Mamdani and establishment liberals kept claiming he was antisemitic?

>>149388124
>establishment
This is where it becomes apparent that words like "establishment" and "elite" are shifting buzzwords meant to divide and conquer. It's cope used to fit people into easily controlled narratives so they don't look at the finance industry as well as just campaign finance. The establishment and the elite, to you, are the people opposing zionism.

>>149388190
Yes, if they are protected by anti-discrimination hate speech laws they are part of the system

>>149387392 (OP)
>liberals get their morality from movies

>>149388190
oh no not the muslim communist who wants to tax white people more!! how dare anyone speak ill of him!!

>>149387400
>Punk is in opposition to whatever the current belief system is.
This actually isn't true in the slightest. Punk is very much in opposition to authoritarianism, right-wing politics, fascism, capitalism, and bigotry.

>>149387526
But the problem is the movie isn't even any less irony-pilled than the usual 2020s movie, most of the emotional scenes are undercut with some dumb humor since they're afraid of letting a serious moment linger. Sure kindness can be punk but this movie isn't genuine in its execution in a way that makes it actually counterculture to all the parody and irony-poisoned shit out there.

>>149388636
No Punk is teen angst and rebellion to anything above 30 years old. Damned green horns and tourists can't even get that right. Punk has been dead and those 90s "punk" was nothing but awful wannabes parading as punk. Punk isn't some peace and love shit.

>The milkable corporate product whose history involved suing a competitor into bankruptcy deems itself ‘punk’ because something about people being mean.
Call yourself ‘punk’ when you get to the Public Domain, loser.

>>149388708
You are legitimately dumb.

>t. actual punk

>>149388543
Mainstream rightwingers are saying he's not American because of his ethnicity. Laws aren't kicking in to stop them. Also that doesn't make sense: what's legal or illegal isn't what defines an establishment and if that's how you measure it, just focusing on anti-discrimination and calling that the establishment is retarded because there's a lot more going on.

>>149388633
It's fine to make fun of him, that's wasn't the issue.

>>149387476
I liked it 'cause it was anti-Sionist

>>149387943
>edgy jokes publicly made on Twitter makes you a pedo
4chan is a pedo website since it made pedobear.

>>149387476
It's not anti-Trump, it's anti-zionist and anti-tech bro.

>>149388543
You are a moron of the highest calibre

>>149388770
And you are legitmately sheep.

BAA BAA BAA

>>149388770
Punk is the original poser music

Metal and Hard Rock forever!

>>149388964
But enough about yourself

>>149387392 (OP)
>>149387400
>>149388770

Punk is a genre like Hair Metal lost it's way and appeal. Alternative Rock is superior.

>>149387392 (OP)
Isn't superboy/conner ment to be the punk one?

>>149389056
I think he is meant to be emo

>>149388562
Yeah dude leftoids have never referred to Trump as orange Voldemort before

>>149387392 (OP)
Punk has always been fake. It was invented by the establishment to promote things they want promoted and when you try to poke holes in it they say: "It's punk, you wouldn't understand."

It's part of their attempt to portray themselves as cool, rebellious, and authentic even though almost nobody actually likes punk.

>>149387501
> They picked a song for the movie, that makes him punk
No

I like IDM. would be cool to see some cool idm music.

>>149387564
You can't get mad at someone for being a pedophile while you're on the Epstein apology tour.

>>149387967
>Punk isn’t contrarianism
Punk is by it's very nature contrarianism

>>149387649
So the narrative is that punk is just contrarianism?

>>149388005
No, because punk just means: "Liberals attempting to be cool to make kids like and think like them." Remember when Biden was in office and they were saying: "The establishment is punk"?

>>149388770
>Actual punk
>t. 35+ liberal who works a corporate job and thinks his beliefs should be enforced by the establishment.

>>149387392 (OP)
because redditors are faggots and we need to bring back bullying.

>>149387987
>I will blindly follow american policy because I dont work for you and am an alien being with no ties to you

>>149387966
>mostly inhabited by rich art school kids
the ugly truth about it. they dont care about money because they come from it. a lot of them wanted to rebel and yell at the system while being safe under the money of their family.

>>149387400
>Punk is in opposition to whatever the current belief system is
So Punk is conservative now? My metal bands were right!

>>149387967
Retard

maybe because they know it isn't

>>149389611
So punk is pro-pedophilia then?

>>149387392 (OP)
The closest Superman has ever been to punk rock is between 1938-1941

>>149387392 (OP)
Redditors wants normal people to be nice to them and their stupid opinions.

>>149387392 (OP)
https://youtu.be/Xq9C2Tll6VA?si=SO8mWwEHU4c9csvw

>>149387392 (OP)
>Why is everyone saying this now
because it's all shills reading from the same script

>>149387548
Won't someone think of the poor widdle pedo?

>>149387967
Proofs?

>>149387612
It's the other people's fault for exposing a pedo. Not the pedo for posting g his pedo tweets and being friend with a pedo who got busted.

Libshits are such disingenuous faggots

>>149388874
>post nothing but pedo jokes
>like 10k posts of pedo jokes
>how can anyone think im a pedo?!?!?!?

>>149387979
I'm in my late 30s and that guy is right. Punks often did not stand for things the way people think they did today, even if their favorite musicians did. A lot of them were aimlessly rebellious and just following certain fashion trends.

>>149387392 (OP)
>punk rock
lol what's next, Superman is the bee's knees?
Superman is totally tubular?
Superman is awesome sauce?

>>149391051
You're actually understanding the quote more than you realize.
It's just Clark trying to be trendy in his dorky, out of touch way.

>>149391051
Punk music is actually making a come back for obvious reasons

>>149391131
Sure and Disco will be back any minute now.

>>149389721
>So Punk is conservative now?
how the hell did you arrive at that conclusion?

>>149391153
disco has been undergoing a revival in recent years, not just people actually listening to 70s music again but a lot of more modern pop music takes disco inspiration

>>149388981
>>149389024
>>149389051
>>149389635
Kek, leave it to this site to not understand punks and mock them.

Conservatives tried really hard and failed at trying to make Punk a right wing genre so now they have no choice but to dismiss the entire genre of music

>>149391177
Yes, just like they did in the 00s where it totally came back and stronger than ever.

>>149391193
I too love to make up dumb scenarios in my head.

>>149391153
Disco has been influencing modern music for some time now

>>149391214
This actually happened though.

>>149391275
Shit was fucking hilarious.

>>149391275
>>149391279
I don't think they're talking about the music genre there mate.

>>149387392 (OP)
Superman likes Metallica, who like punk, but are entirely anti-thetical to punk, being a bunch of purposeful assholes who played the bully many times through their career cause it's fun, and before being corporate sellouts (also, not punk) were pretty much the "true metal spirit" embodied only writing about headbanging, war, drunk partying, cocaine, death, morbidity etc

>>149391284
Good thing punk is more than just the music, and even then, plenty of right-wing """punks""" tried to push this shit in the actual music scene too. /mu/ used to laugh at them.

>>149387392 (OP)
do you, by chance, have the 'tism?

>>149391300
/mu/ has shit taste in punk, they like crap that never was punk but pushed by critics like Television.

If you're not making somebody mad, you're not punk. If you're not outwardly making yourself an outcast, you're not punk. Punk IS style over substance and willing ignorance, always was. From The Stooges and NY Dolls shock antics, to Ramones braindead greaser worship and Sex Pistols edgelord shit, the whole "punk is libshit" only came later, and all of that crap nobody cares about but hipsters who would get beat up by actual punks (you can tell by their clothing)

>>149387392 (OP)
punk is absolutely contrarian. It was reductionist in rebellion to corporate corruption of music, but then it too was co-opted and corporatized. In a world where bots and shills and retards are played rage bait to be at each other's throats, kindness is in fact an act of rebellion as well.

>>149387501
Old men cant be punk rock. Real punk rockers die young. If youre old and punk you picked it up later in life or weren't really punk and died making you a poser.

>>149387967
it literally is

>>149391323
>/mu/ has shit taste in punk, they like crap that never was punk but pushed by critics like Television.
I'm not gonna defend /mu/ but by nature, they have better taste in music than pretty much the rest of this site.

>If you're not making somebody mad, you're not punk. If you're not outwardly making yourself an outcast, you're not punk. Punk IS style over substance and willing ignorance, always was. From The Stooges and NY Dolls shock antics, to Ramones braindead greaser worship and Sex Pistols edgelord shit, the whole "punk is libshit" only came later, and all of that crap nobody cares about but hipsters who would get beat up by actual punks (you can tell by their clothing)
This is false, literally almost from its onset, punk rock bands like Dead Kennedys and Bad Religion were extremely vocal in their criticism towards capitalism and right-wing politics. Skinheads were originally leftists whose interests were in helping the working class before they got coopted by Nazis (funny enough, conservatives trying to steal punk rock and popular media in general has always been a thing).

>>149391341
No it isn’t

>>149391300
>Good thing punk is more than just the music
Sure but >>149391193 specifically talked about the music.

>Arguing about a boomer movement/boomer slang, for literal baby boomers
What is this a fucking nursing home?

>>149389721
Most normal people are aware that conservatives are bloodthirsty death cultists now, and they're in power, so being kind is now anti-establishment.

>>149391300
>Punk is more than just the music
It really isn't and that's why it's cringe. It's literally just music for that sliver of time when you're rebellious as a teenager. People just stick the word to anything they personally see as edgy or controversial

>>149387400
/Thread

>>149387400
Are you retarded?

>>149391379
>Sure but >>149391193 specifically talked about the music.
Ok but I pointed out that regardless of those screenshots, conservatives really did try to coopt punk music.

https://youtu.be/cAyLrRZf1-I?si=ECDZaac1toyCnNmK

An example of what morons think is punk rock.

>>149391450
>>149391459
I'm gonna put you guys in a microwave together.

>>149391439
>so being kind is now anti-establishment.
I hope so. It would be nice of the left would actually be decent and nice people again.

>>149391474
They still won't be nice to you if you're an evil rightoid cultist though, sorry.

>>149391466
>Ok but I pointed out that regardless of those screenshots, conservatives really did try to coopt punk music.
No, you made an anecdotal statement just like >>149391193 did.
Also I don't see anything in the youtube link claiming that to be "What punk actually is."
Seems more like someone just making a song they wanted to make.

>>149391480
Murdered any random jews today?

>>149391474
Have you considered not being a garbage person?

>>149391511
Shalom

>>149391505
>No, you made an anecdotal statement just like >>149391193 did.
So you're just going to play stupid then, when if you're on this site, you've probably come across that sort of sentiment before. Ok.
>Also I don't see anything in the youtube link claiming that to be "What punk actually is."
This was literally the poster song for conservatives trying to claim punk. The original vid has like 7 million views on YT.
>Seems more like someone just making a song they wanted to make.
No, it's definitely pushing an ideology and you're just being willfully ignorant.

>>149391511
free palestine

>>149391534
fuck Palestine and Israel

>>149391543
if you're a right winger, you're pro-israel

>>149391523
>So you're just going to play stupid then, when if you're on this site, you've probably come across that sort of sentiment before.
No one talks about Punk music besides /mu/. No one who doesn't go there would have any way to verify your claim unless they go to the archive and dredge through it.
>This was literally the poster song for conservatives trying to claim punk.
Okay, do you have anything to back that up? And view count just means it's been viewed a lot.
>No, it's definitely pushing an ideology and you're just being willfully ignorant.
And? Again, I don't see any claim that it's punk as in the movement, so whatever message it may or may not have is pretty irrelevant.

>>149391554
I'll decide what I am. Not you

>>149387392 (OP)
>>149387400
The replies prove you right. And that counterculture on this website is hilariously dead.

>>149388923
>anti-zionist
You have my interest.

>anti-tech bro.
I have a feeling this just means anti-Elon Musk.

>>149391554
That's true for most, even in that Israel's existence is fundamentally rightwing. For some more honest and knowledgeable, they see themselves as powers competing with zionism, meaning they see Israel as rightwing and oppose it on the grounds of ethnic rivalry. They can also oppose it on grounds of disagreement with their claims of ethnic homeland while being on board with blood and soil politics of the concept of white American countries an ocean away from white homelands. Hypocritical? Not necessarily, this conflicts and disagreements can be genuine on an individual level. It's like how some people are genuine true believers in a cult; accusing them of being dishonest when they're honestly taken in isn't productive.

The movie proved what we all knew was true for decades
It doesn't matter if the movie is perfect, it just has to let Superman be fun
He's always been popular. Internet fedoras have always been in the minority
Actually being punk rock isn't the point, it's a pointless label for music nerds to argues
It's about how he needs to be Superman regardless if it's cool or marketable or trendy or fashionable

>>149391610
Anti-silicone valley in general. Sure, you can draw Musk comparisons, but it's just the contemporary flavor of cult of personality billionaire type. They aren't saying tech bro things, they're just a group of young, diverse, sycophants gleefully participating in cruelty. It isn't explored, but Lex's plan to rule is consistent with Silicone Valley and JD Vance genuinely and publicly supporting the monarchist political philosophy of Curtis Yarvin. It's not exaggeration or caricature, it's a nod at something real.

>>149391439
>Most normal people are aware that conservatives are bloodthirsty death cultists now
Bro, you are not getting anyone on your side thinking like that. Always so crazily dramatic.

>>149391284
Music is tertiary to a punk band.

>>149391694
>your side

>>149388636
And how does Superman not fit?

>>149388636
>>149391791
It's more like how this Superman stands out from others by doing what's obviously right despite what the government and economic elite want. His interests in helping people run counter to theirs. We know this plot; if we could drastically improve the lives of everyone for free, billionaires and the governments they own would stand in your way because the fabric of society, mom and dad's pension and your 401k, are ultimately hitched to the system that benefits them the most. They can use that against you on every level. In cases like these:
>not punk = working with these powers to roll out a solution they can control and monetize while treating you and your family like royalty
>punk = making these solutions public because the immediate and obvious good they do and expose those in power as trying to coerce you into not helping people

Often in these stories, we see Batman is more punk and Superman as more boyscout. The end of the movie shows that the concept of superheroes, unaccountable gods the government wants to keep in check, are punk by nature.

What isn't punk about Superman is how his sense of good and justice comes off as autistic instead of a conscious rebellion. In his conversation about his actions in curtailng a foreign country's aggression, he was "fuck the police" about it, he was more incredulous, like "yeah I did that, why wouldn't I?" and he looks at Lois like she's asking dumb questions. There, we see that his actions that come from the attitudes of someone who won't even recognize the complexity of the situation because to him the answer is straightforward.

>>149392034
Too long, didn't read.

>>149392065
>punk = anti-establishment
>establishment = moneyed interest and complicity in cruelty
>punk = anti-moneyed interest and complicity in cruelty
>Lex Luthor = pro-moneyed interest and complicity in cruelty
>Superman = punk

>>149392034
>he was "fuck the police" about it,
Meant to say he wasn't "fuck the police" about it.

Nerds don't have a spine so they want to meme kindness into being punk to raise their chances of getting pussy.

>>149392196
>Nerds
*The marketing team

>>149392221
It's actually crazy just how much shit is just some dumbass marketing ploy these days, be that from a corporation or some political group.
I guess to some extend it's always been this way, but at least people humming a jingle because it's catchy, or referencing a commercial because it's actually funny, feels slightly more organic.

>>149392196
>>149392221
>>149392316
>getting this worked up over an assumption of the amount of pussy a marketing team gets and their effort to correct that through fixation on a "well what is punk really" article

>>149387400
>The word punk originated as a term for a submissive homosexual man, especially within the context of prison
bros...

>>149392382
...What the fuck are you talking about?

>>149392398
This
>>149392196
>>149392221
>>149392316

>>149392409
I can tell that you're responding to those post, but that doesn't actually explain you schizo babble.

Punk is for faggots. Always has been. It's for rich little shits who will never feel the effect of their 'rebellion' and grow up to be middle-upper class. It's pointless destruction and whining. Luv me any kind of actual rebellion and violence group, be they muslim, skinheads, or criminal enterprise, those at least have a point other than just feeling like they have a point.

>>149387392 (OP)
>>149388636
>>149391185
>>149391302

Explain Emo Punk then geniuses, where the fuck does this fit?

>>149392468
>*The marketing team* don't have a spine so they want to meme kindness into being punk to raise their chances of getting pussy.
>It's actually crazy just how much shit is just some dumbass marketing ploy these days, be that from a corporation or some political group.
>I guess to some extend it's always been this way, but at least people humming a jingle because it's catchy, or referencing a commercial because it's actually funny, feels slightly more organic.
This is schizo babble.

Punk Rock is rude because the morally bankrupt put on an air of refinement to disguise their stench
Punks have always been on the forefront of social issues aiding the marginalized and are one of the few subcultures willing to literally stomp out Nazi fucks.

You don't know shit about punk, OP

>>149387967
Based Retard

>>149392530
Anon >>149392221 is just stating that it's a marketing team doing their job.
>>149392316 is just lamenting the idea that so much shit is just a marketing ploy these days.

>>149392566
>"this marketing team is just trying to get pussy by saying superman is punk!"
>"ugh so much is marketing these days!"
lmao

>>149392578
>"this marketing team is just trying to get pussy by saying superman is punk!"
No one said that though.

>>149387392 (OP)
Punk has always been full of vain, attention-seeking little faggots. Being subjected to their bullshit at a young age is how I was cured of any desire to be part of a subculture.

>>149387979
The overwhelming majority of the punk scene was music so shitty, for the sake of being shitty, that the only reason anyone showed up for punk shows was for cheap drugs, beer, and a controlled environment to get into fistfights with random assholes who were also drunk, high, and looking for a fight.

Everything about punk that survived to make it out of basement shows and into pop culture was the safe, marketable stuff that could retain an air of what normies assumed "punk" was.

>>149392548
And that's how "Superman" is punk in this movie because the plot revolves around him not going through the accepted channels to do what's right and as a result burned the economic and political elite with that move.

How he isn't punk is that there's no conscious spite or rebellion attached to his actions, he's just doing what he, a super powerful alien from rural community, thinks makes sense.

>>149388636
>Punk is very much in opposition to authoritarianism
Then why were they all on board with wokism?

>>149392196
>Nerds don't have a spine so they want to meme kindness into being punk to raise their chances of getting pussy.

>>149392221
>>Nerds
>*The marketing team

This means that the corrected sentence is "the marketing team don't have a spine so they want to meme kindness into being punk to raise their chances of getting pussy." It's funny to then bemoan marketing generally as a response.

>>149388636
I thought punk was some form of alt nazism

>>149392548
>Punks have always been on the forefront of social issues aiding the marginalized and are one of the few subcultures willing to literally stomp out Nazi fucks.
Nigga, they've never done shit. The hell are you talking about?

>>149387400
fpbp
kindness is now counter culture

>>149392651
>wokism
Nice buzzword, let's spend the rest of the thread debating what it means.

Many think wokism is genuine corporate capture instead of convenient virtue signalling meant to shift the conversation and discourse if policy somewhere that insulates power from real critique and action that harms the grip of that power and the wealth it brings to a small group. For context: since 2001 there have been a group of fag punk types called Queers Undermining Israeli Terrorism. They were among the first to call out pinkwashing. The common meme though is that the left was genuinely fooled by Raytheon pride floats.

>>149392707
Always has been.

>>149387392 (OP)
people are tired of superhero deconstruction, political polarization and the overall rudeness in todays society.
rudeness and dehumanization of your fellow man is mainstream, so yes a kind boyscout superhero like superman is punk in a way

>>149392731
Bro, people don't like insincerity. They still don't like corny shit. People still prefer edge but with sincerity, not goofy shit for geeky millennials.

>>149388636
>Punk is very much in opposition to authoritarianism, right-wing politics, fascism, capitalism, and bigotry.
In other words, punk is kindness

>>149391514
>Me being a raging cunt to you is proof that you deserve it
It must be a blessed existence to be woke and know that you're always good and right.

>>149392760
Punk is emo>>149392477

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7IxliAPjAk&pp=ygUNdGlja2xlIG1lIGVtbw%3D%3D

>>149387392 (OP)
I don't know dude, maybe, just maybe, people are saying this alongside Superman images because, and this might be a wild theory, that it's something that's used in the movie?
Seriously, are you fucking retarded?

>>149392728
>Nice buzzword, let's spend the rest of the thread debating what it means.
It's an excellent word, it immediately makes wokies shit their pants and desperately try to invalidate it, just like you are doing now.

>Many think wokism is genuine corporate capture
Yeah, so why were they on board with it if they're supposed to be anti-establishment?

>since 2001 there have been a group of fag punk types called Queers Undermining Israeli Terrorism.
The fact that it is now progressive to hate Jews is one of the funniest things is one of the funniest things that has ever happened in the history of the world, although I knew from the start that it was always gonna be the group with darker skin that would end up being the victims in the eyes of the hive mind.

>The common meme though is that the left was genuinely fooled by Raytheon pride floats.
They were. The fact that a small handful of people could see the obvious means nothing, especially when a majority of those who did embraced it anyway, because they figured it was a kind of victory for them. Anything that is nominally on their side is right and good. Reality, truth and integrity are irrelevant.

>>149392731
But this was still deconstruction, it's in the Peacemaker universe and the movie was heavily political. Superman's boyscout status is mainly his attitude towards people as people he loves and wants to take care of, but it's a luxury of people a super man, a god. Doing what's right is good, obviously, but Superman can't relate to the base fears and wants of people that make them complicit in genocide and side with Luthor. He isn't without sympathy or empathy, it just makes him awkward in how he relates to people and what he expects from them.

>>149387400
FPBP and the leaking brown clittycels in the replies only prove you right

>>149387392 (OP)
>>149392760

That means Barney is punk after all, he was punk all along!

>>149392841
>The fact that it is now progressive to hate Jews is one of the funniest things
I gave you example from 24 years ago and you're still trying to hold on to this narrative of "just now".

>Yeah, so why were they on board with it if they're supposed to be anti-establishment?
Because you're an out of touch retard who never understood what was going on or what was being said. Even Santa Inc was about shallow virtue signalling in corporations, it's the plot. It still fucking sucks, but if that piece of shit can highlight this issue, you should be able to figure it out. You not figuring that out shows you don't want to figure it out, you need to think leftist corporate capture was corporate pride logos.

>>149392880

No he isn't. He broke into someone's house and did all acts of sexual depravity:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/fV3a1Uw8xPfq/

>>149392925
>I'm breaking into Drew Pickles' house by picking his lock. With my cock.

kek

>>149388053
>>149392477
>>149392798
>>149392880

Hello, I am Emo Barney and I am very depressed.

>>149392913
It hasn't been a popular thing to do until just now, as you well know, you disingenuous twat. An even smaller pocket of mentally ill people thinking that way 24 years ago means even less.

>>149392913
I think you're the one who doesn't understand what's being said, but thank you for revealing yourself for what you are none the less.

>>149387400
Accurate

>>149392477
>>149392798

So when will Superman go through a depressed phase and cut himself?

>>149393135
How is he gonna cut himself?

>>149393185
With a razor made out of kryptonite

>>149393114
I'm giving you specifics and you want to argue with your vague feelings, the impression you got while being low info. I get why you love using words like "wokism"; you can't be specific because that requires more information.

>>149388923
This film was in development years before Oct 7th happened & Musk became politically active so grats to giving Jews more money I guess?

>>149387400
Punk is specific to the DIY scene of the 80s, and everything since then has been objectively shallow counter culture cosplay, especially the (many) attempts at redefinition like this one. That said-- kindness does rule. I'd rather have Superman media that was kind and had a hopeful message of believing in your fellow man. Everyone lately seems to prefer being mean and obsessive faggots about everything all the time because they want an identity to hide behind and being a mean obsessive faggot means getting to parrot other mean obsessive faggots without ever actually thinking for yourself.

I hate punks

>Superman is gay superficial jewish propaganda that has no real meaning beyond that
What did they mean by this?

>>149387987
People that get mad about Superman being a government stooge in TDKR most certainly didn't know what Superman comics were at the time.

>>149387392 (OP)
>the man who tortured people with cacti is nice

>>149391361
>actually punk was originally all about GOOD things!
You are reciting revisionist history written by modern day faggots and hipsters.

>>149392776
So that’s a no?

>>149387400
>my million dollar franchise movie is punk because trump is president
Capeshit? More like copeshit lmao

>>149387564
#Epstein'sList

>>149395430
Politicians are doing their damnednest to agitate people into picking sides to distract from the ugly truth that ALL OF THEM are on it.

>>149391302
>sneaking in your baby oom words

Fuck yourself.

>>149387400
Nice dubs

>>149387400
Pop culture and politics, by definition, cannot be punk. They are mainstream, even if they are at odds with themselves. If it's got a theatrical release, political authority, if it plays on the radio, if it has a publishing deal, a record contract, or anything of the sort, it's not punk.

>>149395813
>b-b-both sides!

You are beneath me, Ivan.

>>149389612
Pretty much

>>149391302
"Punk is dead" makes no sense if establishments are alive for anti-establishment to form from, "Punk failed" makes more sense, but has less of a cynical edge to it.
Speaking of which, throwing out how people are stupid, and corps own them and telling them to shut up and every other low hanging ad hominem you can grasp doesn't add gravitas to the admonishment that SLC Punk hasn't already covered.

>>149387518
>Seriously...what is this shit?

Clark has a poster of a very specific punk band in his room at his folk's house.

>>149391279
It's funny how Billie Joe Armstrong changed the lyrics in American Idiot to "MAGA agenda" and then all the MAGAts decided that punk wasn't cool anymore.

>>149396561
>Ameritard so cunted in the head can only "think" in binaries
When I say ALL OF THEM it's ALL OF THEM. Name a country, ALL OF THEM are in on it.

>>149396319
>If it's got a theatrical release, political authority, if it plays on the radio, if it has a publishing deal, a record contract, or anything of the sort, it's not punk.
By that asinine definition, The Clash, The Damned and the Sex Pistols aren't punk.

>>149397470
Exactly.

>>149387400
>to whatever the current belief system is
>current
lol no. punk is two things. lyrically is being anti-society because society is dumb. sound-like is anything goes (which explains why industrial is related to punk)
your post is cope from modern sellouts that wrote anti-bush songs and shit

>>149388636
>capitalism

Even when it gained ground by selling clothes and albums.

>>149392760
Authoritarianism isn't limited to those on the right.
Plenty of punks still think China, Cuba, and Soviet Union were or are utopias or could do nothing wrong.

>>149392477
It's the apolitical punk so many think doesn't exist.

>>149392548
>>149392691
Punk has always had questionable content. Descendants had incel lyrics decades before that was a thing. Bad Brains are homophobic as fuck.
It's always hilarious hearing hip-hop and rap are close to punk, even when a good chunk of them are homophobic and misogynistic.
Every few months there is a new scandal of band members being accused or convicted of sexual assault. Some how the guy from Leftover Crack still performs at regular venues.

>>149397470
>>149397481
For a few decades Epitaph Records and Fat Wreck Chords had distribution deals with a Warner Bros and Sony distributor.
Looks like Epitaph now works with a subsidiary of Lionsgate Canada.

>>149397657
This commercial from the 90s doesn't know what punk is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMuElf1_OoM

Men at Work, INXS, Crowded House, The Cars, Erasure, Huey Lewis and the News?

I'm more of a ska punk and pop punk guy.

>>149398050
Mustard Plug is underappreciated.

>>149393135
>>149393246
Oh shit, is this version gonna be offended at comments on the internet that he's set up a myspace and whine about how mean people are?

>>149398029
>MICKEY WE GOT MICKEY
what the fuck is even that commercial

>>149393114
weighing in to say that of the two of you arguing you come off as the dumb one

>>149398085
Emo Superman will an hero himself when Lex Luthor makes another basesless accusation. And this soundtrack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YBXn890CAc

>>149387564
It's been fascinating watching people who want to be mad at the tweets deliberately memoryhole pedobear and dead baby jokes.

>>149398085
>How could this happen to me I've made my mistakes I've got nowhere to run The night goes on As I'm fading away I'm sick of this life I just wanna scream How could this happen to me

>>149392477
>>149393047
>>149393135
>>149398085
>>149398267

They never should have said those thjongs about him online Superman is an hero

>>149398029
>Huey Lewis and the News

He pushes back against society's conformist attitudes and declares that it's hip to be square.

HEY, PAUL!

>>149398132
>>149398267
Henry Cavill Superman also had emo moments

>>149393047
holy shit its susie deltarune

>>149393047
Why hello there, I am Ronald McDonald I am the penis clown!

>>149398050
>>149398078
I like Less Than Jake

>>149398447
Emo Barney: Oh no! I hate clowns, they are so scary.
Ronald McDonald: Don't be afraid, I'm not here to hurt, I'm here to hump you. Now turn that frown upside down for I am the penis clown. AndtakeyourclothesoffsoIcanfuckyouuptheass!
Emo Barney: What did you say?
Ronald McDonald: Don't keep me waiting. I want you to take off your clothes, I want to have sex with you.
Emo Barney: Get away from me I hate clowns.
Ronald McDonald: Well too fucking bad.
Emo Barney: If life is so fair, why do roses have thorns? Why are you here? All I want to do is cry and listen to My Chemical Romance. All you care about is having sex with innocent people.
Ronald McDonald: Pull down your pants right now and bend over.
Emo Barney: You don't know what I've been through, go away, there is no god.
Ronald McDonald: I will shove my cock in your mouth...

>>149387392 (OP)
Lots of difficulty with this claim. In a sense it’s true to a degree because “corporations and politicians with their hands in wars (cough) Palestine” is a real thing today and that type in America is in power today more than it was a few years ago. Issue is that this group is really an arm of Muscular Liberalism which wants to do things like disempower nationalistic and religious governments abroad and defend the interests of Jews and the Western real estate market. So “the man” is in power, but he isn’t really “the man” that punks are thinking of. That man is better represented by the internet Chuddies that long to be him, and those people are still systematically denied access to power by Muscular Liberals, which are ultimately what figures such as Trump and Musk are

>>149398537
Emo Barney: ROWROWROWROWROWROWROWORWOORWORWOROWOWOROOWOWOWOWOORRRRROWOWOWOW! I hurt myself to feel alive. Oh please won't someone save me? The penis clown is hurting me. If life is so fair why do roses have thorns? The penis clown won't go away! Oh please won't someone save me? There is no god.

>>149387392 (OP)
The lack of empathy and kindness is enough to turn a punk emo, especially if you post those mean comments even if you are a 12 year old from India

>>149398050
Based.

>>149387392 (OP)
We need a Batman movie to explain to people what TRUE punk is.

>>149399006
and more hot takes on rock music

>>149399006
When and why did fundie Christians take over DC again?

>>149387392 (OP)
Yes, the "Big Blue Boy Scout" is "punk rock"

>>149398119
>DODGSON! SEE NO CARES! AND NO ONE CARES ABOUT ME! NO ONE KNOWS WHAT I'VE BEEN THROUGH! I HATE YOU DODGSON! I HATE EVERYONE HERE! I HATE YOUR CORPORATE ESTABLISHMENT THAT DOESN'T CARE ABOUT ME! YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT I'VE BEEN THROUGH! IF LIFE IS SO FAIR, WHY DO DINOSAURS HAVE SHARP TEETH? AND WHY DID NATURE LET THEM ALL DIE? THAT IS WHY I HURT MYSELF TO FEEL ALIVE!

>>149399050
The Big Blue Boy Scout is "emo">>149398267

>>149398799
Indian kids made him emo?

>>149388005
But Trump won.

>Leftist want to claim a genre who's legacy is a guy shitting on stage and smearing it all over his body that died from meth OD
Performative, laziest form of edge.

>>149399057
I don't know what the fuck this bit has become, but it's amazing. Keep going.

>>149388005
>>149399519
reminder that conservatives were the ones that abolish slavery
culture shifts up down wrong
counter-culture is a meme. punk was never counter-culture. pachucos were counter-culture compared to the sissy punks.

>>149396921
Green Day was never cool

>>149387400
This. Kindness is punk because America is a low trust society

>>149399959
Cope an' seethe, maggot.

>>149387392 (OP)
>>149387400
Both sides find their joy in spiting the other in any way possible. Even if it would hurt themselves long term. There's no such thing as polite discourse, let alone being kind (a word that itself has been corrupted to mean "enabling" imo).
Which we can see by the fact that we can't even talk about a /co/ movie on its own board, during the weekend of its release, without shitflinging about Cruz and Trump and whatever fucking stupid exchange they're having on twitter. Like can you guys get a life please

>>149399819
>erm ackshully lincoln was a republican
Lmfao shut up you disengenous moron, we all know about the party flip already

>>149387400
>And kindness is not in vogue.
The sitting president literally ran on hate and spite.

>>149387392 (OP)
They are retards that don't know what punk shit it's. Superman was gay not punk, #supershit. Also whoever the mods are are fucking retarded. Fucking getting warnings because someone gets pissed at your shit post is getting fucking annoying

>>149391193
There is plenty of apolitical punk along with Nazi punk and Hatecore, many just want to ignore it or are in denial.

Wait wait wait hold on a second. Is my FUARKING HERO Manchester Black in the new movie?

>>149396810
"[Music genre] is dead" is a standard term, started with "Disco is dead".

>>149389612
It's being true to yourself despite what is expected of you. Just like how Dee Dee Ramone didn't join the army like his dad wanted, he sucked dick for heroin money and attacked people with a Bowie knife. He lived his authentic life.

>>149396921
What's up with the "No KKK" chants? Why do they think they're relevant?
I know its origins are in the 80s, but did they know how prevalent the KKK was even then?

>>149398050
But which heroes are those genres?

>>149389612
Punk was a reacctionary movement since its conception, it was always meant to create controversy and be rebellous against what was stablished at the time.

>>149389612
Punk was a reacctionary movement since its conception, it was always meant to create controversy and be rebellious against what was stablished at the time.

>>149387400
So punk is just being a contrarian?

What if everyone decides to be a contrarian?

>>149401089
Look around you anon: everyone is a fucking contrarian these days.

>>149387601
Did he?

>>149391643
/thread

>>149388005
>don't believe in man made climate change
Come on anon, you know that shit is partially true.

>>149387392 (OP)
>Everyone
The 4 people saying that unironically didn't get a movie the artistic equivalent of subway surfer. He says that, Lois scoffs then smiles while tapering off explaining how he's not punk. it's not that he's truly le hekkin punk rockirino it's that it was a cornball thing to say. Because he's superman. That's the joke.

>>149387392 (OP)
Yeah.
Kindness is now a bad thing for the elites.

>>149401257
yes, anon. this was hashed out at the time in great detail, with all political motives and the reasoning behind associated cancellation attempts fully described, and pretending the act of you relitigating it now isn't some kind of desperate attempt to protect your orange skydaddy isn't fooling anyone.

>>149400034
It's counter cultural, to an extent, but to call it "punk" is to believe the false mythology that punks were so completely counter culture that even when they were a acting like a bunch of violent drug addicts, that they were actually about class solidarity and workers rights and social justice activism, which is just not true.

>>149391302
>you are the establishment now even though we control the presidency, the supreme court, and the senate

>>149388190
>right hates muslims
>left hates jews
What did I miss?

>>149388273
You kow what? Fuck it mate, give the jews a piece of land, it that is what it takes for them to stop bombing Palestine and piss off then do it.

>>149388636
No it isn't

>>149388636
I remember one punk icon who used to parade as a nazi

>>149388770
I am sorry for you

>>149387392 (OP)
Kindness was always punk, dumbass
It was rich capitalist pigs, overdressed noble fops, and "wholesome suburban parents" that voted to bomb the rest of the world that punks flipped off, and because their Fascist cunts couldn't understand how anyone could not like their hypocrital arses, they sold the idea that punks were antisocial misanthropes
And inevitably actual antisocial fucks invaded the movement to reinforce it (fuck GG Allin)
Yeah I wonder why the big man with the Tommy gun thinks everyone around him is a terrorist when they all hate him

>>149389719
Most based punk cunt I knew was a West end rich girl
Most of then are working class lads
That's always the way with the establishment
"some of them are rich tossers, therefore the whole movement is fake"
No wonder everything is fake to you lot, nothing is ever sincere and your background is entirely who you are
And you wonder why conservativism could never be punk rock

>>149401875
Same to you

No one in this thread has listened to Discharge

>>149401864
Lots of them paraded around in Nazi shit back in the day. Turns out people didn't like it when they did it and made a point to tell them to cut it out.

>>149402077
Not Discharge but I literally saw Chaos UK in person
"Punk isn't (X)" means punk is dead and is actually rightwing now" All these pol idiots have no clue, they get all their ideas of punk from children's cartoons and movies and probably whiny 2000s pop punk posers probably
Punk never changed, pissing off the establishment was just the norm and even back then nobody liked the Nazi punks

>>149401996
>It was rich capitalist pigs, overdressed noble fops, and "wholesome suburban parents" that voted to bomb the rest of the world that punks flipped off
Just like you pinko faggots did to own vlademort putler

>>149387400
Punk sucks.

>>149402120
I remember when Rock Against Bush started. Dozens of so-called punk bands basically endorsed Kerry, they didn't even bother to promote any third parties.

>Libniggers saying they aren't the establishment and the norm
How fuckig delusional are you?

>>149401996
>Kindness was always punk, dumbass
According to what, exactly? You ever been to a basement show, zoomzoom? Never taken a stray fist to the side of the head because you got too close to the pit?

>>149402209
What would be the point of endorsing people who can’t possibly win an election? Empty virtue signalling?

>>149387392 (OP)
Punk is going against the norm
the norm is cynism
yeah its punk

>>149402408
Yes

>>149402408
Better than continuing to support the establishment.
Pessimistic attitude only keeps people from supporting smaller parties. We've seen in other countries many small parties start from nothing and end up winning.

>>149402510
You're thinking about Bizarro world where everything is backwards.

>>149391063
/Thread

>>149402383
Sounds like a (You) problem.

>>149402792
>No (You)!!
Not an argument. Punk isn't whatever reddit tells you it is.

>>149391300
/mu/ is full of retards

>>149391361
>skinheads used to be the good guys like me

>>149391467
Kys fag

>>149391619
I asked him, don't worry.

>>149391730
Yes, your side.

>>149392221
I always knew marketing was full of virgins

>>149387392 (OP)
>Why is everyone saying this now?
These are the same """"""people"""""" that are propping up Pedo Pascal as the epitome of masculinity. Pay no heed to the hollywood propagandists.

>>149402814
>Not an argument

Wasn't meant to be an argument. If you're the one's catching fists at a punk show, maybe there's something wrong with you or with your relationship to the people around you?

>>149403013
Nobody says this.

>>149392548
Punk was always about raging against boomers

>>149401420
Calma down Gunn, you are still a weirdo.

People do not know what punk is and being punk is one of the most pathetic worthless things you can identify as in 2025.

>>149403022
You've really never been anywhere near a real punk show, have you, zoomzoom? The fights aren't an anomaly. They're the norm.

You're not punk and I'm telling everyone.

>>149401864
>>149402086
>anons don't understand what a punk in nazi drag means

>>149403353
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37dBq_4TsZI

>>149403013
People like Pedro because he isn’t a toxic asshole

I remember a couple of years ago hearing a rumor that Gunn was upset because this random animated series was going over the same ground as his in-development Superman movie. I thought it was just gossip at the time, but now I kinda see where it might've been true.

>>149388005
>If this was true that means that punk in 2025 means you are heterosexual
Yes.

>>149388633
I love how in any other circumstance those would be "white people" aka "jews"

>>149401746
>left hates jews

They are not the ones running around with tiki torches saying "jews will not replace us" or shooting up synagoges because "great replacement"

>>149404459
>Submit to social & gender hierarchies and change your sexuality because that's a thing.

>>149391361
>I'm not gonna defend /mu/ but by nature, they have better taste in music than pretty much the rest of this site.
No they don't. I've been a mutant forever, my chart is the only one youll find there now when I decide to still go there that isn't predictable or full of trash like 100 gecs and kanye and actually features albums I discovered myself and not through the board

And nah, real punk is Ramones, the purpose was to rebel against heavy metal and prog moving rock away from "normal people" who couldn't play a guitar solo or write an epic, it had nothing to do with politics until critics decided so

>>149404459
If having a family is counter culture then how is it still mainstream way to live, you dumb fuck?

>>149404539
because the mainstream says its bad, and encourages disfunctional families/people who cant have kids

new pop songs are all like "i dont need no man, i fuck lots of men", great message....no wonder 20 year olds are all single moms already

>>149404539
>how is it still mainstream way to live
It's not, what year are you living in?

>>149387392 (OP)
I think this goes back to a series of interviews Grant Morrison had with newsarama around the time of All-star Superman. It's archived somewhere.

"In a world where limp, wimpy men are forced to talk tough and act ‘badass’ even though we all know they’re shitting it inside. In a world where the measure of our moral strength has come to lie in the extremity of the images we’re able to look at and stomach. In a world, I’m reliably told, that’s going to the dogs, the real mischief, the real punk rock rebellion, is a snarling, ‘fuck you’ positivity and optimism. Violent optimism in the face of all evidence to the contrary is the Alpha form of outrage these days. It really freaks people out"

>>149387392 (OP)
>Movie is about being kind to others
>/co/ has been crying and shitting about it since its release
Really makes you think

>>149402312
Chuds like you are really desperate to feel like the rebels still. It's really pathetic

>>149404832
>And talking about and arguing over punk rock, politics, heavy metal, and emo? What does MySpace, Jurassic Park and Barney and Ronald McDonald have to do with- penis clown? Cutting yourself?

Ok fuck it I don't want to think about it anymore, don't wanna hear from it, this thread has lost the plot much like rock music in general

And fuck Simple Plan

>>149404871
If life is so fair then why do roses have thorns?

>>149404459
>>149404547
>>149404557
Just because you can't get a girlfriend does not mean having a family is somehow le counter culture.
You're projecting your insecurities again.

>>149404832
Really makes one ponder...

What does cutting yourself have to do with punk?

>>149387400
Must've never heard of these gay bands called Propagandhi or Operation Ivy.

Never not be funny to me that modern fascists try to claim they're 'punk rock'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzHLPnGuVSQ

>>149404547
>>149404557
You're spending too much time on the internet, friend.

>>149398085
Can someone explain this myspace post? Is it some meme? What does it have to do with punk?

>>149387392 (OP)
No, Superman, being a Christian who is against abortion and James Gunn is what's really punk rock. Ben Shapiro told me so.

>>149387392 (OP)
Does that make Batman post punk or something? Gunn better rip off The Crow and have Bruce running on rooftops to Joy Division

>>149404547
Wait so now you’re against people having kids? Jesus Christ pick a goddamn already.

>>149387507
I thought it was the woke cancel crowd that came after him?

https://youtu.be/_VwupNz4IiM
So what is your favorite punk?

>>149405038
No, it was a smear campaign by conservatives

>>149387400
Based.

>>149405038
It was a smear campaign spearheaded by rightwing pedo Mike Cernovich

>>149403278
They were nazis ironically?

>>149387400
based based based

>>149388923
that's the same thing

>>149406023
They dressed like nazis to be shocking and offensive to normalfags, and most people in the punk scene didn't give a fuck because they were all edgelords and tryhards anyways. The people who started seething about nazi punks just kinda proved how inauthentic and fake the countercultural movement they claimed to be actually was.
>get those guys out of here!
>we'll tolerate hard drugs that destroy lives
>and destructive vandalism of other people's property
>and theft, assault, and other crimess
>and degenerate rapist psychopaths
>and violent assholes beating each other to death
>and people being forced into prostitution because of all the drugs and violence destroying their lives
>but we draw the line at anyone thinking we might stand for bad things!
Punk is and has always been a bunch of stupid bullshit

>>149404547
>because the mainstream says its bad, and encourages disfunctional families/people who cant have kids

I see plenty of people who say the opposite and that mainstream wants families as it means more works and stock values go up.
Crazy how so many have forgotten the Palm Springs clinic bombing already. Same with a number of pro-Palestine attacks in the US.

>>149405012
Isn't Ben Shapiro Jewish? Not that that has anything to do with this discussion.

>>149387507
>>149405335
>>149405391

It was so mean of them to do so, you don't know what he's been through. Do that again and this will happen

>>149404973
>Can someone explain this myspace post?
Suicide post.

>Is it some meme?
YTMND meme.

>What does it have to do with punk?
Nothing apart from the pop punk song associated with the YTMND meme.

>>149407234
>Suicide post

Was it a real thing that happened?

>>149407299
Look up the address. You're bound to get one local source covering it.

>>149393047
>I hate you
>I hate me
>I'm depressed as I can be

>>149387392 (OP)
>>149387400
>We have genuinely gotten to the point where Mr. Rogers is counter-culture
BURN IT ALL DOWN

>>149388033
The first punks were homeless drug addicts who sucked dick for heroin money. Punk used to mean "gay for pay." The Ramones wrote a song about it (53rd & 3rd.)

The hair metal guys were the same way but being in LA in the 80s and not NYC in the 70s, they'd fuck little old ladies on top of sucking dick.

>>149407428
Right's always hated Mr. Rogers and what he's stood for.

>>149388636
OG punks are very conservative. It's about keeping your money instead of paying a shit ton of taxes so that black people can still be miserable. MC5 believed a woman's place is in the home, Johnny Ramone said "God bless George W. Bush" during his HOF induction, Johnny Rotten on a whole. Punks were a response to the hippies which was a commie movement so it stands to reason they'd be libertarian. Punk going lefty was in response to Ronald Reagan.

>>149407638
OG lefty punks like sham 69 are now considered racists right wingers, they used to write songs about London having no English men anymore, same with bands like the clash

>>149407588
The Sex Pistols were rich art school kids who were created to sell Vivian Westwood boutique clothing. They sucked homeless dick for Crack because they were bisexual faggots, not because they were poor

>>149389051
Punk is part of alt-rock. Alternative is a catch-all non-genre that just means it is rock music that isn't "normal" rock-'n'-roll nor is it metal. Ska, pop punk, grunge, whatever the hell you call Primus, all alternative. Because it is an "alternative" to mainstream rock. Which was weird when alt-rock was the mainstream rock of the 1990s.

>>149391302
Against Me has always sucked. They made a song to gloat about selling out (Don't Lose Touch) but it wasn't like their sound gets any better or changes enough to recognize they've sold out.

>>149387526
So, your saying conservatives are still counter culture. awesome.
If you drop a (rational) liberal into a group of conservatives, you'll get conversation and reasoning. If you drop a conservative into a group of liberals, you'll get attacked and possibly killed.

>>149391323
The best punk is about unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.

Seriously, go read the lyrics to Deadpool Kennedys songs. Jello Biafra is what you'd get if Alex Jones was also a goat.

>>149407711
Yes, conservatives are the counter culture
https://youtu.be/TSKizLRFbTo?feature=shared

Everything in this song pisses off the establishment. Dying your hair in rainbow colors and introducing yourself by your pronouns and pumping yourself up with SSRIs and antidepressants is exactly what the establishment wants you to do.

>>149407670
You know, we give the Pistols shit for being formed by Malcolm McLaren but we give Adam Ant a pass. Why is that?

>>149407625
Since when?

>>149407719
https://youtu.be/R-rDQs5NOP4?feature=shared
Jello was based but now is an establishment sell out who shills for the Democratic party and covid vaccines

>>149407739
I don't give any if them a pass. Most of these bands and "counter culture " movements originated and are manufactured by corporations and establishment think tanks. Yes even the Sumner of Love and British invasion were a manufactured Tavistock psyop.

>>149407711
That's because the average liberal is extremely close-minded and intolerant and also prone to violence, which they refer to as 'peaceful protests'

Is pop punk the same as punk rock?

>>149407757
Since always.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iljhDaowoLc

There's also the fact that he helped PBS get government funding, something 45's administration stripped away.

>>149407942
>fox news
So, sensationalism in the media. Not any kind of cultural revolt against Rogers. Cool. You're a fucking hylic.

>>149405311
What the fuck is this shit?

>>149407942
Bad orangeman is mega based for turning off the money faucet of establishment propaganda outlets NPR and PBS. I don't want my tax money funding that shit

>>149407977
She chose the wrong news piece but she's nonetheless correct. The right have always despised Fred Rogers and Sesame Street. Did you forget Ted Cruz getting into a Twitter argument with fucking Elmo about five years ago?
And Fred is woke. So is Jesus, actually.

>>149407977
I know you didn't watch the video, disingenuous fuck.

>>149391193
*cough* *cough* Johnny Ramone *cough* * cough*

>>149398593
Ronald McDonald: Turn that frown upside down for I am the penis clown! Then take your clothes off and we'll have the greatest orgy ever. It will be very swell!
Emo Barney: Please go away. I hate you.

>>149407977
See >>149408022. This cunt is exactly the sort of rightwing lady I'm talking about in >>149408031
For some reason, teaching children the Golden Rule of Christianity, to treat others as you'd wish to be treated, is evil, leftist propaganda. To teach children that different people exist and that it's okay to be different is woke and wrong. They have always hated Fred Rogers and have never actually been true Christians.

>>149408031
I don't want elmo encouraging kids to be gay or using pronouns created by the pedophile founder of modern gender theory, Dr John Money. Why should the government use tax payer money to fund establishment propaganda for kids?

>>149408073
Good thing that's never happened, ma'am. Don't put off that mammogram!

>>149408069
In Abrahamic religions like judaism and Christianity and Islam, god hates and condemns faggots. He blew up soddom and gammorah with fireballs because their were too many degenerate sodomites, then he flooded the world and killed everyone besides Noah an his family because God hated gays so much. Don't talk about religion if you know nothing about it, dummy.

>>149408093
Elmo is transgender now

>>149408073
Elmo will yeach kids to be Emo, wear Hot Topuc clothes, be dramatic and cut themselves>>149393135
>>149392798

>>149408031
>Did you forget Ted Cruz getting into a Twitter argument with fucking Elmo about five years ago?
Ted Cruz is literally an Israeli puppet. What he does is not conservatism, it's Jewish cock slobbering.

>>149408069
Mr Roger's is based and teaches conservative values.

https://youtu.be/mM1ODJunrN8?feature=shared

Mr Rogers was making songs against troon insanity before it was cool.

>>149388802
>>149388923
Why have people obsessed over this one part and ignored the central message

>>149392707
>>149392730
Ok tumblr

>>149392872
>>149391592
The actual 4chan counterculture would be unrecognizable to this place.

>>149408031
Jesus isn't "woke," Jesus is enlightened. Jesus tells you to deny yourself, to be dead to your old self, and to follow Him and His example. Tell me one wokey who would ever say not to follow your every stupid whim.

>>149408107
There were also the Nephilim He wanted to sort out.

>>149395430
Yeah I think Gunn's on that list too.

>>149408240
Jesus taught people to believe in God. Wokes hate god and religion even more than they hate themselves.

>>149388756
Slasher movies aren't punk.

>>149408261
I have to amend this to say wokes love Buddhism for some reason, even though it's a religion where the founder of it said women could never become enlightened and never would be allowed to become priests.

>>149408161
This movie hired a Jew to play an American hero. It's not the only one slobbering Jew cock.

>>149407962
James Gunn is the opposite of sincere.

>>149408359
Superman was created by two jews. In the first issue of Action Comics there's a senator who wants the US to go to war with Hitler and Superman beats the shit out of him for being a warmonger until the senator agrees not to go to war vs Hitler. Kal El is Hebrew. Superman was always Jewish coded, sorry if this is your first time learning this

This thread barely has anything to do with comics.

>>149408400
>b-b-but he was created by two Jews!
He was still raised by a Middle American white Methodist couple and raised on traditional American values, something the movie doubled down on.
Sorry your Jewish tricks aren't working.

>>149403977
Coincidentally, both suck.

>>149408345
>wokes love Buddhism for some reason
*Hollywood Buddhism™, the one that has nothing to do with buddhism besides going "Ommmm" and lighting cheap incense while pretending to be enlightened.

>>149408401
It's an emo thread now. Just like 20 years ago we should cut our wrists, wear hot topic and listen to My Chemical Romance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRKJiM9Njr8

>>149393398
>/pol/ fell for it again
With Jews, you win.

>>149408453
Superman was raised by two jews who were not subversive and wanted to blend in and assimilate with American values instead of destroying them with communism and faggotry. Jack Kirby was a similar based Jew who had similar values. Think of them as the Stephen Millers of their era.

>>149408586
>based Jew
This is an oxymoron. Jews are never based.

>>149408107
>can't even spell Sodom
>I'm expected to believe this women has ever attended any religious service at all
Sure. Whatever you say, ma'am.
While I admittedly don't go every week, I attend services most Sundays.
>>149408240
Jesus teaches
• compassion for others, particularly the marginalised, poor and disabled (His ministry to the hungry, the lepers, the blind and the sinners; remember, He says to the adulteress He does not conference her for her sin, a stark contrast to the legalism of the Pharisees)
• good can come from outside the in group (the parable of the Good Samaritan)
• to reject hypocrisy (back to the story of the adulteress, He famously tells he who is without sin to cast the first stone, not only a clear rejection of the Mosaic law that an adulteress is to be stoned to death but also to highlight the hypocrisy of those calling for it)
Current conservatism (which let's be honest, is anything but) glorifies:
• hatred of the poor, of the disabled, of the hungry and of people they would deem sinful
• rejection of anything and anyone not of their group
• hypocrisy upon hypocrisy upon hypocrisy
The irony of it all is that you almost certainly are antisemitic and yet behave more like a biblical Pharisee than like Christ. You reject His teachings, you reject His grace and you reject Him and as such, both spiritually and in your very character, you are a Jew and have never been a Christian.

>>149408586
>Superman was raised by two jews who were not subversive and wanted to blend in and assimilate with American values instead of destroying them with communism and faggotry
Headcanon btw.

>>149408625
I'm a lefty and even I say Jesus is a cuck.

>>149408670
And He still loves you.

>>149408625
>>149408675
>a Jew
>capable of love

Do any of you actually care about superhero comics and cartoons or do you just live for arguing about stupid shit?

>>149408625
Soddom is a Hebrew word translated to Aramaic, it doesn't matter how you spell it in English, retard.
Jesus tolerated fags but he never loved them or preached others to love them. I too tolerate fags, but I know they're all condemned to hell, and I also know to keep them away from my kids because many of them are pedophiles.

>>149408290
Zombie movies are punk, actually.

>>149408702
Anytime I say I like X, Y or Z cartoon or show here (I'm sorry, I've not read s comic in about twenty years), thirty-seven posters jump down my throat with the typical accusations. Shill. Retard. Troll. Leftwing. Rightwing. Jew. Cuck. Chud. "Shit taste." Etc etc etc.
I likes what I likes and people likes what they likes. I don't shit on them because they like something I don't but they do it to me which makes it not worth it to really discuss that stuff much anymore.
You can't go out of your way to be a cunt to people then complain no one wants to talk to you.

>>149408625
>• hatred of the poor, of the disabled, of the hungry and of people they would deem sinful
>• rejection of anything and anyone not of their group
>• hypocrisy upon hypocrisy upon hypocrisy
You described the current Democratic party.

The Democrats hate poor illegal aliens. That's why they want them to remain poor so they can continue working as pseudo slave labor to pick their California crops and clean their toilets.

>>149408732
You just admitted to rejecting Christ's teachings. You are a Jew.

>>149408763
Exodus 20:16

>>149408757
>/co/ scared off actual discussion and left only schizos and /pol/ tourists
This board is its own worst enemy.

>>149408702
NTA, but there's always three or more bad actors jumping in and screeching like robotic shitposting monkeys when one of them's losing. No coincidence that they've already worked their way to another thread.

>>149408625
>•

You're reading from a script.

>>149408823
>screeching like robotic shitposting monkeys
Of course fucking Luthor is behind this.

>>149387501
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr-u2cPJhYw

>>149408776
Jesus the Jewish rabbi hated fags and had zero tolerance for their degenerate ways.

>>149408823
• Am
• I
• really,
• madam?
• Truly
• truly?
• Well
• gee
• gosh
• golly
• willickers!
>I simply used bullet points to make each argument and its biblical source clear.

>>149408894
And your biblical source for that claim, Clarissa?

>>149408776
>>149408785
>>149408625
>Lev. 20:13: If a man lies with a male as lying with as woman, they both committed an abomination; they certainly will die; their blood is upon them.
>Lev. 18:22: You shall not lie with a male as lying with a woman; it is an abomination.

Thus said the Lord.

>>149408922
God flooded the world to wipe out humanity because he hated fags so much. It's literally right there in the Bible.

It's kinda funny to see people's reactions to this movie be that it makes them want to be kinder and better people in general and then on this site people seem to be more angry and bitter at the world around them

>>149408922
See
>>149408930

>>149408930
The Son of Man was yet to be birthed by Mary. You're off by about 1300 years. Try again.

>>149408948
Shut up Nethanhyu

>>149408947
>>149408961
See >>149408967

>>149408969
The Israelis are also upset about the movie

>>149408967
Jesus is God, you heretical clown. Leviticus is the word of God. Try again.

>>149408983
You can just say Jews anon. Even the actor is one.

>>149408983
Including the ones in this very thread who reject Jesus' direct teachings and are so unfamiliar with Scripture that they quote Leviticus when asked to provide backup to the claim that Christ hated a particular group, thinking it fulfills the request. Unsurprising that they should choose a book from the Torah rather than something Jesus Himself said.

>>149408930
>People mention Jesus' teachings
>I know! I'll post something from the Old Testament, the section of the bible where Jesus isn't around
>gottem! :)
Every time.

>>149408983
>Israelis
>leftoids
>rightoids
>comic book nerds
I think it pissed off everyone.

>>149408908
You're copy and pasting from another site. Nobody actually uses fucking bullet points here.

>>149409028
I legit didn't even know it was possible here.

>>149408995
The chain was >>149408894
>Jesus the Jewish rabbi
Not The Word. Not God. Not The Father. The Son of Man, specifically. You are a Jew, unknowledgeable of Christ.

>>149409010
The old and new testament are both the word of God. Ironic that a God hating atheist tries to lecture a believer about their own religion.

>>149408948
Shills aren't paid to be kind or factual.

>>149409003
Jews and Israelis aren't one in the same, you dishonest cunt.

>>149409028
They're an atheist fag copy-pastaing ChatGPT.

>>149409052
They totally are though. Sucks to suck bro, having a Jew Superman only to shit on your people.

>>149409037
In Windows, make sure you have num lock on, hold alt and press 7 on the num pad. In Android, tap the ?123 on the bottom left of the keyboard then =\< just above it. The • will be on the top row, fourth from the left.
>>149409028
• False.

>>149409020
The old testament is part of Jesus's teachings, considering the fact that Jesus is God and is the one who gave us the Old Testament in the first place, bonehead.

>>149409043
You are no believer.
>>149409058
Hardly.

>>149409069
>False.

You aren't of this site, obviously.

>>149409058
You wouldn't believe how commonplace that is for trolls, actually.

>>149409080
A Christian who loves fags is not a true Christian and fundamentally misunderstands the word of God.

++149409043
Barnson, assuming it's not an electronic copy, your god is a appropriation of a Pharaoh almost unknown and your modern god is the sum total of your species mind in writhing torment. Or were those psychic powers fake between serotonin seizures? Team Killing Fucktard Mode.
Let's continue this specific conversation six years ago!
>>And remember commisar, nobody likes a bigot!_

>>149409074
>>149409102
Yet more proof you don't read Scripture and never have. You are Pharisees.

>lost the argument on being a punk
>pivot to christian ideals and beliefs, which they hold none

Interesting.

>>149407808
It's closer to pop rock.

>>149409153
>others talk about emo myspace

>>149409153
Being Christian in 2025 is the most anti-establishment punk rock thing you can do in 2025.

>>149409197
The chads of the thread.

>>149387392 (OP)
>Do people not know what Punk is
isn't it like
anti-establishment or something

>>149409261
Especially considering the antichrist is president.

>>149409003
Israelis == all Jews

>>149409351
Yes unironically. Shouldn't have butted in on the Middle East.

>>149409351
Jews moving into the US en masse was worse than just going to Israel t b h.

>>149409376
Jews are responsible for American capeshit comics, like superman, and Stan Lee and Kirby at Marvel. Do you simply hate capeshit comics as an artform or only capeshit created by Jews?

>>149409408
>Do you simply hate capeshit comics as an artform or only capeshit created by Jews?
Yes and yes.

>>149409408
>Superhero comics no longer become the dominant force in American comics.
>American comics flourish into other genres like in Europe and Japan.
Wow, really didn't think that through did you?

>>149409423
>>149409441
I was asking for clarification. If you hate Jews and the art they created, why complain about this new shitty Superman movie and why did you buy a ticket to see it in the first place if you knew what it was and you knew what kind of people created Superman and the capeshit genre? Why watch any Hollywood movie at all? The whole industry is ran by Jews and full of Jewish actors. I myself stopped watching all Hollywood movies and shows years ago. I highly recommend it.

>>149409575
Why are either of you in this thread?

>>149409575
>I myself stopped watching all Hollywood movies and shows years ago. I highly recommend it.
To do that, we need to get rid of /co/.

>>149409066
They aren't

>>149408031
He did?

>>149408948
>people's reactions to this movie be that it makes them want to be kinder and better people in general
That's really not what the movie is about, benchode

>>149387392 (OP)
>>149391193
There are people who say these aren't punk because they're offensive or punk is supposed to be political.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSwhtQuz2tI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njrMh18Xd3c

>>149408161
That is entirely what conservatism is.

>>149410490
The earliest punk music featured British punkers complaining abput there being too many immigrants in England. The leftist idea of dying your hair rainbow and piercing your nose while supporting every talking point the Democratic party does is as far away from being 'punk rawk' as punk can be. Modern leftist 'punks' are simply useful idiots who spew globohomo establishment talking points

>>149410512
It's entirely what American politics are.

>>149387400
>>149387392 (OP)
Sorry Americans, but Superman will never not be lame as fuck, this is why no one but you is watching this

Punk is fucking lame

>>149404882
I'm married

Why do leftists always accuse other people of being incels? You're the biggest group of unattractive people, chads and staceys don't look like you (picrel)

I'm a hot metalhead and girls hit on me in public all the time, my wife gets pissed

>>149408625
Nice AI. I follow Christ. I give to a church with the intention of the money being pooled together with other's money to make a fund to care for widows, orphans, and the poor. I praise God for lighting my path and giving me graces to help in ways that I can. I have times where I am judging others and times where I am not but Christ didn't charge us to judge our neighbor, just to love them as ourselves. We are not to love the world or our lives but we are explicitly supposed to reflect Christ's love for us onto others. And we all fall short sometimes. But if we didn't, we wouldn't need Christ now would we?

You really offended me but I get where you're coming from. I'm not a Sam Hyde grifter Christian and take offense at the suggestion I've read so much Greek just to hate Jews when I am grafted into their inheritance.

>>149410368
Thank you for proving what I said

>>149409294
I love that it is that obvious. It is becoming crazy not to see it.

>>149411591
It's like how big fat people call people fat and old people call people old here. They accuse their perceived enemies as not getting laid because they don't. But at their base level, it shows they see s x as social currency and not an expression between lovers which is super gross already and makes you realize why they aren't fucking. It's like when women throw incel around but break down when you point out their insecurity is that no one would ever marry them. Big yikes energy.

>>149411864
And then there is the fact that LGBT people are the biggest sluts on Earth. I have gay and trans friends and they all only get laid because they open their ass for literally anyone who wants in

>>149408732
Hell isn’t real.

>>149387392 (OP)
Who the fuck wants to be punk?
Those lame fags get beaten up all the time.

>>149387400
>punk is being a contrarian
Stupid faggot.

>>149387392 (OP)
>Why is everyone saying this now?
Zaslav spent a lot of money getting the media behind this. I don't know who thought the punk angle was memorable and easy to spread around but they deserve a raise.

Punk is basically "I'll do anything to scare normies".

>>149387392 (OP)
Kindness is the founding principle of Punk. Fight the power to build kindness. Love is the opposite of authority.

>>149409408
>>149409575
Kys faggots

>>149411900
The kingdom of heaven is inside you, as is hell.

>>149387518
>Green Day
Cringe. They’re about as punk rock as Katy Perry

>>149412101
Punk is anything but kind, it's the opposite of kind.

>>149411591
You always know a fag is a lonely fag when he has to pull the "uhm actually I'm married" then samefag reply to himself
Get a life, fag

Punk used to have a working-class aspect to it, until college kids found out what the working poor are actually like and punk mostly died as an organic culture. For the most part the core of punk just larp for the kind of rich kids that spend daddy's money at some college learning how to manage a company by being "with it" and hip. They leave with their MBAs, leather jackets and wolf cuts, then spend the next couple of decades dictating whatever they think is cool for the creatives under them to have to work around.
In other words, yeah, the corporate product pushed out to the unwashed masses by a series of executives and data astrologers that call themselves "revolutionaries" is punk rock and always has been.

I like that many put Dropkick Murphys on a pedestal for kicking out or even fighting neo-Nazis, but ignore their support for police.

>>149412127
Punk is basically about not selling out, staying true to yourself, living life the way you want it without some authoritarian faggot trying to make you conform to their standards. It’s rebellious spirit in its purest form

>>149412230
It's also being contrarian for the sake of it. It has good and bad aspects.

>>149387400
but isnt being indie also a big part of punk

>>149412364
It’s also about getting drunk and acting like a retard to punk rock music kek. The genre is best experienced at a live show in a piece of shit, underground venue, while wasted, in a mosh pit with alternative & goth qt’s headbanging on the sides

>>149412476
Not true, straight edge punks prove you wrong. It's not about being a drunk retard

>>149412145
You're projecting hard bro. It's gonna be ok. Lose some weight and some girl will fall for you.

>>149387531
None of these are that bad. The truth is everyone here wants to motorboat a stinky hebe cunny, fuzzy and gooey and warm. All you people are doing is putting on airs.

>>149412916
It's all disturbing and not very funny. Im any case, it's not what Disney wants from it's directors who are making movies for kids and teens. For some reason, Gunn and his buddies think kids getting molested is hilarious for some reason.

>>149413274
He's also close buddies with convicted child pornographer Huston Huddleston for some reason. Haha what a silly coincidence that has nothing to do with anything haha

>>149412476
This is the true punk experience

>>149413303
https://www.trekradio.net/huston-huddleston-conviction-result/
What a silly coincidence, I hope this guy wasn't going to Gunn's to catch a predator theme parties haha

>>149412874
You forgot your name, loser

Worst thread on /co/.

>>149413824
This

>>149412476
This, the best punks are frat guys with mohawks.
Anyone trying to overthink punk is just boring as fuck and gets no bitches, it's all about having fun