Thread 149395064

Are kids really that terrified by sharp angles?

>>149395064 (OP)
gravity falls was a mistake

>>149395064 (OP)
It's not literal, it's mainly a design convention. It's like how if you have a good dragon and evil dragon in a story, most of the time the good one will be designed completely different.

>>149395064 (OP)
Is this something someone in the industry said or is this something a random person on twitter thinks?

>>149395064 (OP)
Twitter faggot thread

Kids aren't watching these movies or cartoons, so my guess is that they know that if it doesn't have sharp angles it fucking sucks lmao

Is that how he lost his eye?

Every single person I've seen talk about "beanmouth" seems to be a completely braindead moron

>>149395064 (OP)
It has nothing to do with being “soft” or whatever
It’s about reducing animation costs by making the same style so you can render with less effort and they can waste it on paying themselves
Every aspect you hate about animation is either executives forcing it in or because of cost. Beanmouth was decided as the style they can replicate easily

>>149395064 (OP)
>Are kids really that terrified by sharp angles?
total drama island
powerpuff girls
courage the cowardly dog
tim burton
johnny bravo
boondocks

no, they aren't

>>149395328
he means skibidi toilet kids

>>149395064 (OP)
You need a mix of both.

>>149395064 (OP)
>babbys first introduction to shape language in character design

>>149395346
the human species did not suddenly evolve a primal fear of certain 2d artstyles in the last 15 years no

>>149395346
thats even more moronic

People constantly complain about beanmouth, but every beanmouth movie or show I've ever watched has been good.

>>149395492
>WHATABOUTANIMAYYY

>>149395064 (OP)
that would explain why all the noses are the same type of round

>>149395064 (OP)
Me when women and children

>>149395064 (OP)
It's not popular with audiences. It's popular with studios because it powers outsourcing costs

>>149395492
>THEY JEEP SAYING "BEAN MOUTH" IT MUST BE LITERAL AND ALL ENCOMPASSING! THERES NO WAYNITS SHORTHAND! IGNORE EFFORT POSTS ONLY READ 3 WORD LONG POSTS WHERE HALF THE WORDS ARE FAGGOT! IM A REAL MARKET RESEARCHER!

>>149395064 (OP)
At least they don't have a dumb blue checkmark, still a Twitter user opinion.

It's funny how everyone universally reviles this style and it's not making money, yet they still keep making it.
They lost their target audience of kids to shit like Skibidi and Smiling Critters and Poppy Playtime and for some reason still don't fathom the idea that the things kids are into these days are wannabe edgy, sharp softcore horror and not movies and cartoons about crying californians talking about their feelings and why they are special.

>>149395064 (OP)
Acually it is because it's "cheap".
People often blame steven universe for it but forget that steven universe used to look a lot different and that the style change happened so that it would be simpler to animate with more vibrant colours and friendly rounder and simpler shapes and it just sorta caught on and became trendy I guess

>>149395549
>>149395751
Hit a nerve, huh?

>>149395064 (OP)
90% of the people working at Pixar are obsessed with Ghibli. That's it.

someone post the gif of cartoon characters morphing into each other cause it's almost all the same style lol

>>149395328
it's 2025, grandpa

>>149395825
Kys trannyfaggot

>>149395890
It's quite literally one of the most expensive movies they've ever made.

when i was a kid i watched invader zim and tim burton movies and those were inspired by german expressionism, so the character designs were sharp and pointy

its complete bullshit to say kids would be scared of it

>>149395228
He still has the eye, he has a mental retardation that makes him spaz out if he uses the eye.
No this never comes up in the movie.

>>149396034
Imagine how much more expensive it would be with real animation.

>>149396183
You know what, fair point.

>>149395990
But tr/a/non, YOU are the anime fan here….

>>149396034
But theyre not spending that money on anything worthwhile.

Shape theory went too far

>>149396205
You missed the point. Bean mouth is a symptom not the disease. Pulling up some screens of someone else drawing rounded mouths doesn't address the root cause.

>>149396205
Stop projecting

>>149395990
Yeah, I sure did.

>>149395389
You need a lobotomy, Doremi pedo.

sharp and pointy can work, people are just retarded, everyone went soft, back in the day it was all about being extreme, ugly, sharp, pointy, like ren and stimpy and invader zim


i for one blame obama

>>149396034
because they pretty much had to rewrite the script and storyboard from so many editor changes

>>149395976
see >>149395435

>>149396341
Shut up tard

>>149395064 (OP)
Some youtuber pointed out that the majority of shit getting made these days are semi-autobiographical "muh childhood" stories; shit that is fictionalized, based on, or reflective of the creator's unresolved childhood bullshit, almost always with a quirk chungus MC who isn't understood by society, and so on. Comparatively, a lot of the biggest hits of the last few decades were either about parenthood, growing up, or taking responsibility.

In other words: New shit is navel gazing narcissism where the whole world needs to learn how great the protag is. Old shit was musing on maturity and responsibility and the protag has to learn about the world around them.

>>149396363
Eventually people should realize the same focus groups that pushed beanmouth are also pushing for heavier AI integration and automation in animation

>>149396475
Altruism was the word you were looking for
I think shows should have a pragmatic message and a style to match that approach; honesty, awareness, humility, and ability

>>149395825
>"Haha, I triggered you with my brain-dead argument, who's the snowflake now?!" - t. buck-broken sissy faggot

>>149396565
>humility
Even false humility is out of fashion these days

>>149395064 (OP)
what kids?

>>149395064 (OP)
>i want SHARP STYLES!
the same board's reaction to this movie's style:
>that looks UGLY AND SHIT
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/140141010/#140151523
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/142474298/#142513393

lilo and stitch did rounded edges without having to resort to beanmouths
beanmouth is a product of no talent calart students using symbol drawing

>>149395064 (OP)
round = friendly

>>149395492
>>149395825

>>149396644
Me:
>Perfectly calm and rational post

You:
>All caps rambling, insults and buzzwords

I dunno, hard to say who the snowflake is.

>>149396205
DO you have a problem with that faggot? I like CHADnime and I like some cartoons that don't rely on shitty beanmouth.

>>149396951
>Why don't people like we-have-mowgli-at-home?
Give me scifi warriors going pew pew.

>>149397061
are you really stupid enough that you see a native american guy with their ancient coyote mythological character and think "yeah that's Mowgli", or you just couldn't think of an other comeback?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote_(mythology)

>>149397041
Fagtard, the one above looks better and Coco isn't calarts

>>149395064 (OP)
Of course. That's why kids only like safe edgy cartoons now.

Remember when the shitty Nu PPG came out and it literally rounded over all the sharp corners?

>>149395133
there's so many things wrong with your statement and implications from said statement that it's just not even worth the time to tell you how retarded you are
pity (You) so you don't kill yourself tonight

>>149395492
soulless vs soul

>>149397308
A bit

>>149397171
I don't care if he is Tarzan or if he is Navis from the first issue of Wake. It's a half naked normie in the wildreness taking to cartoony animals. It's shite.

>>149395492
You have shit taste
Die, homosexual

>>149397295
Can you imagine how much of a retarded faggot a person have to be to not understand that Professor Utonium being rigid and angular was the entire fucking point of his character?

>>149396363
You can look less far in the past.
Teen Titans Go has no beanmouth.
>everyone went soft
That's very false. The execs just found a way to mass produced a cartoon through rig and beanmouth style. The very angular artstyle was also a trend because it was easier to animate on cel.

Also, what's with all the zoomers and their obsession with edgyness that apparently completely disappeared? (which is false. They just don't look for it.)

>>149397417
Filtered

>>149395064 (OP)
>cross emoji
this person is a retard

>>149397471
Cry me a river. I have actually good stuff to watch. Later.

>>149395064 (OP)
What are "unsafe" designs in media?

>Noooooooooooooo you can't just draw mouths a specific way that's is le baaaaaaaaaaad

Cartoons were far uglier in the past. Look at shit like Rugrats and Jimmy Neutron. I'll take "beanmouth" over that any day.

>>149397041
Aren't Luca, Coco, Soul, and Turning Red all from Pixar and Disney?
Justice League, TMNT, Gargoyles, and X-Men are from four or more different studios.

>>149397573
Gif unrelated btw

>>149397765
I hope you are trolling

>>149397765
1/10 bait

>>149395064 (OP)
Why are people seemingly ok with getting upset on "bean mouth" style but got upset when it was called "CalArts" style?

>>149397796
Beast Wars is the best Transformers cartoon and it's not even a competition, it's just that much better.

>>149397417
you really have zero idea what the movie is about. the guy is not even the main character, and if this looks like talking (or "taking") to you then that's sad. i'm assuming you are just an AI who analyzed the image i posted, and made a reply based on an uneducated guess.

>>149397765
you should kill yourself now

>>149395492
>3 of the top ones have the literal same mouth and head shape.
>Bottom are all visually different.
Yeah just kill yourself retard.

>>149395176
There is a psychology in humans to think
>round edge = soft or nice
>sharp edge = pointy and mean
So it translates to our design. idk if this is a conscious decision in any animation studio, but it is a big trend nowadays.
I miss the trend of sharp, or grimy worlds like Invader Zim. Even that got a bit rounded in comics. I wouldn't mind more variety.

>>149395064 (OP)
You triggered my memories of that consultation company, Q5, ruining the Real Ghostbusters show. One of their "fixes" was making Janine's glasses round because "kids are afraid of sharp edges". The kicker was that they didn't even do any surveys or research.

>>149396441
Make me, pedo.

>>149397844
I call it troon style

>>149397844
Because a bunch of people in animation went to Calarts and don't want their alma matter to be rightfully associated with that garbage.

>>149396475
The autobiographical shit is what annoys me. I'm not going to force anyone to write stories I want, but those people usually don't have interesting enough lives to make into a story, and you can only tell the similar story so many times.

>>149396951
>everyone is the same person
>style AND appeal are mutually exclusive

>>149395064 (OP)
>kids
No, but greedy corporations are afraid of spending money.

>>149395328
>pre-beanmouth examples predating 2010

>>149398557
But if you make designs too unappealing to kids, they won't like it either. Transformers One toys aren't selling well since demographics changed, times changed, there are more to compete with toys, and some don't find the designs as nice.

>>149395492
Nice bait, but I'm not falling for it again.

average sharp features enjoyer

>>149395328
Kim possibles tits.

i wish every soijak nigger to suffer

>>149395064 (OP)
It happened with Real Ghostbusters. They thought Janine’s glasses were too pointy and would scare kids

>>149398922
In a show about damn ghosts.

>>149395800
>hat the style change happened so that it would be simpler to animate with more vibrant colours
anon this stuff is all digitally animated, vibrant colors aren't any cheaper than muted ones.

>>149395064 (OP)
>I'm going to make something up and propose it as a true fact!

Absolute schizo behavior.

You can just not like a style. It's not rocket science. It's not deep. There's no sinister man plotting something.

>>149398173
>>149398116
You should try to relax a little and don't get so worked up over animation styles.

>>149395845
There's something so fucking insidious about this art. It's meant to look all soft and innocent, but the smile on the fish-boy on the right tells me the artist has 100% drawn him getting his bussy busted.

>>149398627
Ok pedo.

>>149398980
Didn't they make Slimer an ally and part of the team?

>>149399350
Tard

>>149395064 (OP)
>twitter thread

>>149396272
>another twitter post making the same retarded claim with zero evidence
wow, you really showed him

>>149396272
It obviously wasn't because it scared kids, they thought the glasses looked to "sexy", but that's a ridiculous reason given the context, so they just made up a fake reason.

>>149395346
> skibidi toilet kids
> terrified by sharp angles
> while also liking the series that is literally a mecha war

>>149395064 (OP)
It's not that kids are afraid of sharp angles (Janine's redesign reason was bullshit), it's that beanmouth is close to a circle. Calarts style is all distorted circles for faces, and in some cases, bodies.

>>149395064 (OP)
Oh look at that, another know it all shit for brains. While yes, removing sharp edges does make a design softer its only more appealing for literal 2 year old toddlers. Sharp edges carry weight in character design to help express character personality, hence why more evil or mischievous characters have edges. These two for example.

>>149399880
They love making up bullshit excuses to wokify shit.

>>149401050
The problem is when you go overboard you get something like Elio where even the antagonists are mostly made of circles. Which telegraphs the story from frame one.

>>149395064 (OP)
While I heavily dislike beanmouth art style, I can tolerate them but beanmouth artstyle in 3D looks like absolute dogshit

>>149399448
Yes, and it worked...until S"limer! And the real Ghostbusters". Then Slimer went from "ok" to "damn, this little shit sucks" Yes, it was titled exactly like that, as if we were in it to see Slimer first and foremost. The execs behind that show were so damn oblivious as to what viewers liked that it was a surprise they didn't ruin TRG.

>>149398922
That was because they asked REALLY young kids, around 5 and 6, while the people that were dedicated viewers were like 10 and older, not nearly TODDLERS.

They're terrified of whatever they're told to be terrified of or whatever they even think is implied to be scary. This generation is helpless.
It first started with taking small toys and parts off shelves because Little Timmy's parents couldn't be assed to make sure their kid wasn't trying to eat his toys or their parts.
Now they all just get phones and tablets welded to their hands and are told to consume a and hate b, repeat.

>>149395064 (OP)
sex with Elio. In the floor, in the wall, in the mattress, in the living room, the wildests sex ever. then we gonna spoon and cuddle.

>>149395346
Skibidi is literal mecha war shit

>>149401341
Fag

>>149395064 (OP)
>complain about legume mouth for DECADES
>nothing changes

>>149398726
Artist?

>>149395346
>>149395435
So this is the power of MK Ultra brainwashing.

>>149401465
Well obviously. Executives only look at projections and aggregates of positive online chatter. Anyone who disagrees, no matter how concise their criticism is, gets lumped in with the trolls and ignored.

>>149401631
What would you guess are Elio's most erogenous zones? Does he have any sort of fetish or kink?

>>149401341
What would you guess are Elio's most erogenous zones? Does he have any sort of fetish or kink?

>>149401837
he Probally likes to be taken from behind. Dogstyle.
Erogenous zone.... His whole body lol. Mostly his neck and torso area.
Fetishes: Cold Obviously be xenophilia/tentacles.

>>149401837
Clone Elio would know. Clone Elio is well-versed.

Clone Elio knows his aunt's ero zones, too.

>>149395845
The Ghibli artstyle itself isn't even close to being as simplified as the "beanmouth" stuff people are complaining about. Just because the guys who made Luca have a hardon for Ghibli's aesthetics doesn't mean Luca itself doesn't fall into the pitfalls of a bunch of AMERICAN design stereotypes.

>>149402033
>>149402976
Do you suppose he's capable of reaching handsfree orgasms? Like, just with his butt or nipples?

>>149396475
Self-insert shit is cringe in any era, but people are more forgiving to certian types of it for some reason. The blue people Avatar is the most bland self-insert "bland male outsider meets a hot indigenous babe and they save her culture together" and yet it makes billions.

>>149395064 (OP)
Beanmouth.Is not the problem. it's the pussy faggot boys or the quirky energetic lezzo girls they're attached to.

>>149395435
Wrong, every 5-10 years all of mankind undergoes a complete and total mental shift based on trends in american culture that warps the collective pysche of all mankind.

>>149397765
>We'll never get a Jimmy Neutron and Dexter's Lab crossover
Pain

>>149397429
If you watch any of the reboot for 30 seconds or so, it is pretty easy to imagine that retarded faggots made it, yes.

>>149403152
What you're describing is an audience stand-in, and even then, Jake Sully is more of a bland character with understandable conflicting goals
>help the industrialists/PMC psychos and get his legs and life back (being crippled sucks)
>fuck blue alien cat people and have some nerds think you're pretty cool and capable (also using the avatar to not be crippled)
He's bland because every character is bland, because James Cameron is a hack who lost his spark, but Jake Sully is not a self-insert for Cameron's unresolved childhood experiences, the way Elio is.

>>149396272

Her glasses scared kids but not the really graphic looking for a kids toy commercial ghosts?

>>149403167
so then don't do that lmao stop being scared of sharp angles and your kids won't be either

>>149403167
Then why the fuck has anime been so much more popular than cartoons for years now? No beanmouths there
>inb4 some faggot quotes these cherrypicked frames >>149395492

>>149403152
Bro nobody gives a shit about Avatar's story. That franchise was always and only about the visual spectacle.
It's one of the reasons why the sequel came and went quickly like it did; people can get fancy CGI slop anywhere now.

>>149403285
>try to pander to the LGBT with a new character who wants to be a Unicorn, but he's a normal (talking) horse
>said horse gets hit with a ray that, the angrier he gets, the more monstrous he becomes
>the progressive writers somehow didn't see this blowing back against them at all, until the episode aired.
Lol.

>>149404193
Oh wait, almost forgot, turned out he WAS a Unicorn the whole time, the dumbass just didn't move his hair to see the horn.

>>149395845
90% of the people working at Pixar are also pedophiles.