Thread 149612845

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Monsters Inc is the best pixar movie and solos everything in their catalog including The Incredibles

>>149612845 (OP)
Samurai Jack season 5 was a perfect finale

TADC was astroturfed on here during the pilot's release.

HH sucked past episode 3.

Family Guy is better after the first 4 seasons and is at it's peak when at its most nasty.

Madness Combat is better than and came before John Wick.

South Park sucked past season 3 bar their two-parter specials.

Plankton the Movie is enjoyable but not amazing.

The newest Transformers movie was a rushed disappointment.

Ed edd n eddy sucked.

Jimmy Neutron sucked.

Fairly odd parents sucked.

I could go on.

Benson from Regular Show is one of the best written characters in western animation and people gotta stop bashing on/dismissing him just because he had a few bad moments

>>149612845 (OP)
Cartoons haven't been good since Koko th Clown

>>149612997
>koko
Shit taste

>>149612997
What the fuck is Koko the Clown nigga

>>149613025
Basic bitch rubberhose mascot

Making Fiends was complete fucking dogshit and I cannot begin to fathom why it gets it's dick sucked so much. Is it a meme or something?

AI is a net positive and will improve cartoons overall. it’ll enhance cartoons

>>149612964
>HH
Meant HB kek

>>149612845 (OP)
The Simpsons and Futurama are both one of the most overrated cartoons of all time and are okay at best.

>>149612964
>HH sucked past episode 3.
How is that controversial? Most people here think all the Vivzieshows sucks and only follow it because porn.

>>149612845 (OP)
Gumball isn’t that funny

YOU'RE ALL FAGGOTS

>>149612845 (OP)
Sausage Party isn't as bad as the internet says it is

Sound design is more important than animation quality. The best cartoons all have good SFX.

>>149612964
Stopped reading at "Ed edd n eddy sucked"

X-Men 90s cartoon is a much better take of the X-Men than the X-Men comics of the same stories and recent era. DOFP is the exception, but their own version of it was still good. And this is because the people involved don't hate each other.

Rango wasn’t that good and it was way more kid-friendly than /co/ wants to admit.

>>149612845 (OP)
Amphibia was in its majority run a borefest. And the fact where people only talk about the girl episodes only proves my point.

1. This board’s coom obsession is obnoxious to the point you can’t discuss most shows and coom does not make a good show, and largely shows you don’t like animation
Loli/shota characters are disgusting and usually porn with these characters are traced from the real stuff

Star VS even before it’s seasonal rot was complete horseshit and the fact that it has less episodes than the fucking Backyardigans only proves my point further.

>>149612845 (OP)
Adventure Time was never good.

>>149612845 (OP)
Romance fucking SUCKS, my god this shit doesn't benefit the actual narratives of the vast majority of /co/ media and causes fandoms to mutate into indefinite shitflinging after the story ends

>>149612845 (OP)
If you don't have a 3 episode rule for every cartoon then you have a shit opinion. You could be "right" and the entire series is bad, but if you dont have the patience for more than one episode then you've already told me what kind of idiot you are.

Fosters home for imaginary friends is a really boring show.

Most shows after season 3 fall apart, especially the 90s to mid 2000s shows.

Teen Titans is ok at best, but gets overshadowed by literally every cape show you compare it to.

Most people who post here are actually casual as fuck.


>>149613189
The hate was more based off the animators being screwed over. The writing dogpiling came after that plus no one really like seth rogan.

>>149613922
I don't think that's much of a hot take. It's on par to saying that SU was a messy shit show that still requires more episodes to "fix"


>>149614098
Season 1 had potential with how silly it was, but season 3 was the final nail in the coffin for me.

>>149614065
>usually porn with these characters are traced from the real stuff
That's not an opinion. That's a claim. So do you have a single fact to back that up?

>>149614065
yes. also, inserting sexual content into children’s cartoons means that kids will be exploring sex at a younger age than they probably should because they’ll go on the internet looking for fanart and find R34 or crypto-R34 shit. they should be thinking about platonic things like art, science, and history instead of porn.

>>149614098
Adventure Time is a case of being a drop of water in a desert. There was literally nothing good coming out at the time, people were desperate, and Adventure Time was "good enough" at just the right time and place.

>>149612845 (OP)
Regular Show is the best CN show and solos everything in their catalog fight me

>ed edd and Eddy is ugly, obnoxious, annoying
>the incredibles sucks. It's a visually ugly film and the main heroes are a bunch of annoying, egotistical shit heads who deserved to be driven into hiding
>south park, barring a handful of semi-amusing episodes, is awful and has always been awful
>classic family guy is hilarious before it became obsessed with being as disgusting as possible
>frozen 1 is one of the best movies Disney has ever made.
>the boys show is complete garbage except for Anthony Starr's performance. It's marginally better than the comic which deserves to be thrown into the world's biggest paper shredder
>mcu thanos was always an insane sadist with a paper thin philosophy he used to cope with the destruction of his homeplanet. People who think endgame ruined his character somehow missed that despite it being clear as far back as guardians 1
>the 3 best cape films ever made are big hero 6, batman 2022 and thunderbolts in that order
>all 4 batman arkham games are great

>>149612845 (OP)
I made this meme a while back where I compared the Death Wolf to Grave Lord Nito from Dark Souls. That kinda feels like this.

Yumi and Ulrich are a terrible couple. The fact that they have zero chemistry is thinly masked by the frustrating "will they or won't they" plot thread.

>>149612845 (OP)
The "good" seasons of the Simpson’s are incredibly boring and a slog to watch.

>>149614090
>it has less episodes than the Backyardigans
Little kids shows commonly have a lot of episodes, and episode count is not a measure of quality. OTGW has 10 and that show is liked

>>149612845 (OP)
Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies shorts (due to the rule of averages) are mediocre.

>>149612845 (OP)
not cartoon but still /co/
The Boys tv show is BORING

>>149614109
Mr enter moment

Before /co/ even realized it, all threads were twitter threads.
Because this is literally just a twitter prompt.

The first Spongebob movie is only okay
Same with the Simpsons movie

>>149613044
>Is it a meme
no its cutsie goth chick in a comic store in salem trying to sell you her special lil zinelets-core

Spider-Verse 2 blows ass

>>149615050
the animation is beautiful but the writing and plot suck. although I’m a big fan of Miguel

>>149612845 (OP)
>would
Anon I've been your OP since October 2011. They hated me for I told them the truth.

MLP FIM Season 2 fucking sucks donkey dick. Lauren Faust quit. Hasbro took control of the show.
And you're all sucking Hasdrone dick because you're a bunch of 14-17 year old summerfags that don't even recognize the creator of the show.
If you laugh at this garbage then holy shit it's clear you're the weeaboos and adventure time fags cause only those retards aren't bothered by retarded & autistic writing.
I've seen some bad writing at my time but this ... this is The Room tier. You faggots should go watch The Room if you're not bothered by autistic awkward writing just like your autistic Adventure Time show made by autistic stoners who can't draw worth a shit.

>>149615176
Hi vogelfag. Your thoughts on the upcoming live action movie?

>>149612845 (OP)
It's hypocritical how people first say they want stakes and hate fakeout deaths in movies, but then praise Deadpool & Wolverine for doing a glorified prettied-up fakeout death, and then shit on Venom 3 that actually had a real death.

For the record, I think both of those movies suck, but Venom 3 has more artistic integrity in regards of committing to characters dying (at least within a single movie as a finished product, regardless of any potential sequels). And yet people glaze D&W and shit on Venom 3 simply because Marvel+Fox have better PR than Sony.

>>149612845 (OP)
Adult Party Cartoon wasn’t that bad.

Ed Edd and Eddy is a good show but to call it CN's greatest is a stretch

>>149614589
>mogged by the Chadyardigans
Series disregarded

Avatar The Last Airbender is mediocre at its best and that's me being generous. Overall it's a 3/10 with Toph and some of the designs translating well to porn being the only real saving graces.

>>149614684
I'll do you one better. The shorts only ever got good once the animators figured out they could just ignore the Hayes code sometime during WWII.

Also most of these aren't even that controversial takes. If anything they're pretty room temp.

>>149615979
ATLA aint that special when you watch like 5 anime at the minimum

>>149612859
I recently re-watched it and the dialogue doesn't hold up as well as I remembered.

>>149615979
>>149616049
it's not even a good action series. the only reason it has made it so far is 100% nostalgia from casuals who more than likely only watch 4 series on repeat instead of exploring media.

>>149615854
I don't get /co/ worship of ed, edd and eddy. It's such an unpleasant show to see and hear.

>>149613741
It did. Painfully bland.

>>149612845 (OP)
Whenever people say "Villain X did nothing wrong" they're usually just being edgy contrarians. Like, there are some villains I think legitimately had a point and I was sorta rooting for them, but I'm not gonna frame it as "they were the TRUE MISUNDERSTOOD HERO and the hero was the true villain all along", you have to be mentally teenage to say shit like this. Taking sides in stories is childish in the first place, if I find myself sympathizing with one side more I usually reflect on what that says about me rather than the piece of media in question, because usually it's more about bias. Like, no one saying "Hans was the true misunderstood hero" or "Belos was the true misunderstood hero" went into their media with good faith in the first place, they just want to signal their disdain for their media or the politics of their media by siding with the villain.

>>149612845 (OP)
>>149612859
Monsters University is just as good, if not better than Inc. And the idea that you can't always achieve the dream you set out to do is good yet hard to swallow pill of a lesson.

>>149612845 (OP)
Korra > ATLA

Ngl people who actively shit on Mordecai and call him a bad character and friend just because his love life sucks while worshipping Rigby despite him being the sole cause as to why 95% of the shit that happens in the show happens are beyond retarded

>>149614178
You win. I don't think I've ever met someone who hates Ed Edd n Eddy.

>>149613189
I just rewatched it the other night and I disagree. It's one of those comedies that suffers from trying too hard, cramming in as much swearing and shock value as they could. There's a good movie buried in there somewhere but holy shit it needed a 2nd pass.

>>149616427
Mordecai was a faggot for hijacking Muscle Man's wedding tho

>>149616427
I agree that people are too harsh on Mordecai, even if >>149616487 was really bad. It's moreso that /co/ is full of the kind of person who identifies with Rigby and rare on people who identify with Mordecai.

>>149616427
I don't think that is a hot take or even a divisive one. Modecai is still a faggot tho. And so was his "Close Enough" successor, Josh.

The day the earth blew up is actually a pretty mediocre movie. I appreciate what it set out to do but most of the gags weren't pushed far enough or were chuckle worthy at best. It's biggest draw just being that the animation is decent and Warner Bros. Has been screwing the looney tunes over lately.

>>149616638
I was surprised that people defended the cringe twerking joke, but I guess /co/ has more gay furries than I thought.

>>149616427
It makes sense if you ignore the fact that Rigby learned to grow up eventually. Sure he was a fag at the start but one thing you've gotta realize is that Mordecai didn't really change throughout the show. He sorta happened to be more mature than Rigby at the start of the show but Rigby passed him.

>>149616638
It wasn't meant to be a theatrical release. Ketchup entertainment just happened to buy the rights for it. Despite of what you think about the movie at least makes me happy knowing that there are companies willing to take chances on smaller projects.

>>149616040
Yeah, 30s shorts are just shit with only a few gems, mid-40s to mid-50s is the most watchable, then it goes back to being shit by the late 50s.

>Also most of these aren't even that controversial takes.
I don't know if that's a good or bad thing.

>>149612845 (OP)
If someone's criticisms amount to "muh subversion" odds are they're a massive retard who would not be able to explain what is actually being subverted in the thing they're talking about.

/co/'s opinion is generally worthless because people on this board still think it's 2013.

>>149617316
2013 was only like 2 years ago though.

>>149612845 (OP)
Guy who jerk off to Nu-ra are pedophiles without standards.

>>149617316
there was no Trump or wokeism in 2013 so that’s definitely not true

>>149612845 (OP)
Bringing gay characters prominently in kids cartoons caused a dip in writing and character chemistry

>>149617316
The world might as well have stopped in time back in 2012.
Even the 2008 Hannah Montana era feels like a different time
And 2005 feels like ancient history.

>>149612845 (OP)
>would turn into this with you?
What kind of ESL sentence is that?
What cartoon take would put you in this position

>>149614109
Romance sucks, but I'm fine with certain characters being married and make that part of their lives.

>>149612845 (OP)
Smiling Friends has a disappointing and painfully boring artstyle and visual direction. Using alternative artstyles for jokes doesn't resolve this. Stuff like Chowder and Flapjack have ten times better taste in a single background art than all of SF's whacky moments. Also, when it tries to make a social commentary it isn't nearly as clever or profound and South Park-y as it thinks it is. Jokes are good, though.

>>149612845 (OP)
Bojack Horseman did nothing wrong with that teen Deer Girl in the ship and should of went all the way with her. On that topic, There is no 5th season and he deserved a proper come back story.

>>149618021
>pedophiles without standards
thank god a fellow pedophile with some standards around here!

>>149616216
Wrong. Sad!

>>149612845 (OP)
this was me after my friend threw a peanut into one of the zoo enclosures and i took the blame

>>149613796
I don't care much for the cartoons nor the comics, but I once saw a compilation of Nightcrawler moments in the 90s show and was surprised by how mature the writing was, then I went to read about Nightcrawler's comic book appearances and it seems that a lot of the soul-searching Christian monk aspect of the character was TV exclusive. Would you say that's representative of your opinion?

>>149612845 (OP)
Regular Show has a neat artstyle and super cool visual direction especially when it comes to the fight scenes despite what that fag on /toy/ told me

That jerking off to cartoon children is pedophilic and that the "they’re just drawings" excuse is BS. Masturbating to them still means those are the kinds of people you’re attracted to and that you picture yourself fucking one.

Also I feel like Digital Circuses unfunny meme humor is shit.

>>149614117
If you don't know anything about children and teenager's psychological development, then just don't try say stuff like this.
>exploring sex at a younger age
>they should be thinking about platonic things like art, science, and history instead of porn.
Lol. Literally sounds like a Mormon, a teacher from the 1950s or something. Kids thinking about love and "the birds and the bees" is the most natural thing

>>149619472
I may not be a psychologist, but there’s definitely nothing “natural” about looking at porn on the internet. and even if it were natural it’s not an excuse

>>149612845 (OP)
Adult opinions are near meaningless for cartoons made for children

>>149612845 (OP)
TAS Batman didn't get good until TNBA.

>>149612845 (OP)
Venture Bros is a decent show, but the creators clearly lost steam after season 4, between their personal circumstances and Adult Swim constantly jerking them around.

Fucking sick of seeing every thread about the show become a circle jerk of how amazing it is without acknowledging any of its vast flaws.

Classic MH/EAH, i feel like it was mismanaged to hell and back but most of the episodes were good

>>149612845 (OP)
Puppets are /co/.

>>149620629
agreed. there’s not really a better place on this site to talk about Mr meaty

>>149619510
That we can agree on, anon.

>>149612845 (OP)
>>149619637
BTAS was the better series, and TNBA ruined every good thing the original series established.

>>149616216
>loud incorrect buzzer

Legitimately confused as to all the seethe over Incredibles 2, it's literally the same as the 1st. Just as good.

>>149622153
People didn't like bob being put on the sidelines and seething over helen being successful
Came out during the rising of culture war shit so people called it woke and pandering
Also it didn't have the same edge as the first one

>>149612845 (OP)
Family guy was, and still is, better than South Park. South Park was always preachy and with bad takes, the novelty of it just masked those aspects better.

Spirited Away is a bad story and pointless movie. It's the most basic Isekai premise possible, 90% of its runtimes does nothing at all to help the protagonist get home, and effectively nothing happened besides "parents drove into a weird alley, looked around for a bit, then left". The music and visuals carry it. Jumanji is the better isekai and came out first. The fantasy board game adventures actually meaningfully affect the real world, and have a point to it. Plus you get funny monkey antics and Robin Williams acting to keep you entertained, Spirited away is BORING.

Megamind should've been live action, the writing and humor is perfect, but the visuals and most of the most voice cast falls flat. Live action would've added to the surreal comedy and tone like Mike Myers cat in the hat, even if the effects inevitably would have been shit. Inversely, making King of the Hill animated was the right move. Drawing such mundane situations demands you pay more attention to them, so you're engaged with the dry humor.

Marcell Yankovics understood animation as a means of abstract storytelling better than anybody in the industry. Even Walt Disney and Richard Williams.

I never thought of Ratatouille as anything better than slightly above average at best. It's the most overrated Pixar film.

Snyders's changes to Watchmen's ending are for the worse. Manhattan being blaned for the explosions would've pointed fingers to his American handlers. The Aliens plot from the comic was better, space aliens have no political affiliation.

>>149616427
mordecai killed rigby multiple times

>>149622153
The logic of a lot of shit didn't make any sense. From the main guy wanting to get supers back to the supers being brought back in open arms despite 2 being right after 1. Like not even a day has passed iirc.

Both movies have shit writing if you take a moment to think about it. If anything in retrospect the Incredibles should have been about role models and how they failed the kids that looked up to them.

>>149622687
>Jumanji is the better isekai and came out first. The fantasy board game adventures actually meaningfully affect the real world, and have a point to it.
People concider Jumanji movie a bad movie?

>>149612845 (OP)
Inside Out 2 was just... Inside Out 1 with some retcons.
It baffled me that it managed to gather a lot of money.

>>149622153
>Just as good.
no is not, the original created an artstyle, a world, politics... just take a look at all the side material:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d73WtJlko9E
Or the games that follow the story before and after it:

The second didn't created anything. The expectation was not met. It was a cash grab.

>>149622612
ṕeople like you can't think for themselves, everything has to be about the freaking politics

>>149622897
>ṕeople like you can't think for themselves, everything has to be about the freaking politics
It wasn't me saying that stuff at the time
It's just what was said at the time

>>149622889
It's weird because I thought 2 was what 1 should have been. It's not amazing but 2 is leagues better than 1. That being said the only reason anyone talks about this movie on here is because coomer bullshit.

>>149619442
This is not a controversial opinion anywhere outside of a few places. It's not even a controversial opinion if you don't post in a lolishota thread. It's just you post too often on /co/ and not around more normal boards that you think it is.

>>149622911
ok noted senpai

>>149622897
forgot to post the link to the game lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad5M115MhKc

Btw here is another neat side material:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R44MvXeEQw

Incredibles 2 is like watching a boring second episode in a promising new cartoon. It does every single cliche and reference to old material, while failing to provide anything of what made it great.

>>149616375
This is mine, as well

>>149613044
because people grew up with the webtoons and had nostalgia for them. i agree the show is much worse

>>149622799
Not that I know of. But I consider it better than Spirted Away.

>>149620629
Chinese cartoons are also /co/. I'm sick of Scissor Seven threads getting double nuked off /co/ and /a/.

While I like animation, I animate myself , the Truth is a majority of modern cartoons would probably be better of as animatics/motion comics since most characters just stand and talk and not even if a way that communicates personality or character, voice actors do the heavy lifting there most of the time. For most cartoon fans the animation is the least interesting aspect of a cartoon, no one ever praises the animators and when they do there's a chance they are just mixing up the art direction with animation. Honest I think the industry would be healthier if animation was used more sparingly for when it actually matters and we just got polished animatics or motion comics.

Odalia's plan is fucking stupid to the point where it becomes hilarious to where it loops back to being stupid again and thats what makes it great

You know that Spongebob scene where he screams to Plankton you used me for Land Development?

That was Odalia's plan. The difference is she's fully aware the end result is genocide but land rights are going to plummet to so cheap she could literally own ALL of the Boiling Isles. She gets to keep her mansion and everything inside it. She gets to keep the EMPEROR'S CASTLE with everything inside it all the magical items AND its massive treasury and all the Palisman wood and additional resources the Boiling Isles has to offer like the location of the Time Pools

All this shit right here is actually so interesting I wish the series kept going just to have Odalia slowly overtime become the new Empress and just as mad. It would have been based but no, Dana hates fun and she hates me.

>>149612845 (OP)
The Spider-verse movies are ugly and the low framrate shit they do gives me a headache

>>149612845 (OP)
The loud house was never that bad and neither chris savino's allegations nor the opinions of e celebs will ever change that.

>>149623624
Chris Savino's loud house is just a dollar store knock off of peanuts. Current version of loud house is just a step above of We Bare Bears in terms of entertainment. The show is ass and it goes to show that you don't need talent or prestige in the industry to trick dumb fucking whores into touching your dick.

>>149616339
Truth

>>149612845 (OP)
Futurama isn't as clever as people think it is.

>>149612845 (OP)
Damian Wayne is the best Robin.

>>149612845 (OP)
Season 1 of Ed Edd n Eddy is the best.

>>149612845 (OP)
Rise of the TMNT is fucking terrible and its fanbase is retarded yoai shippers that attack anyone for not liking their dogshit show.

>>149612845 (OP)
I feel like I had a stroke trying to read that.

>>149625115
hurm erm actually didn't you know that most of the writers have phds?

30 is too old to still watch cartoons, especially ones specifically made for children

Black April is never going to work because the character designs can't seem to resist making her incredibly ugly every time. Even her initial design looks lame compared to the 80s one.

>>149612845 (OP)
Genndy's cartoons are dogshit.

Hb/hh has really fun character designs(everything else is shit of course)
Manga is beating out cartoons because anime is straight adaptations of the source material, not directly tying into comic runs is just stupid
Carnage during the sixis event where he was a hero was one of the most enduring and likable heros and he should have stayed that way

>>149613021
>commits suicide
As well he should have.

>>149612845 (OP)
Batman: Caped Crusader should have been a BTAS prequel.
Lower Decks is shit because despite all the fan service it's still poking fun at Star Trek.
Extreme Ghostbusters was actually a worthy successor to The Real Ghostbusters.
DuckTales 2017 was actually superior to the 1987 show in many ways.

>>149612845 (OP)
>Steven Universe is a good show
>Daphne was always better than Velma
>Mystery Incorporated was good

>>149612845 (OP)
>saar what cartoon take baab habhiat

>>149612845 (OP)
I like raceswaps

>>149626550
>>Mystery Incorporated was good

That’s a popular opinion though

Be Cool Scooby-Doo was good

Stating enjoyment while having criticism of any of the shows that were Culture War battlegrounds, IE Steven Universe, She-Ra & The Princesses of Power, etc. as both sides praised/insulted on the basis of their own political brownie points rather than the merits of the work itself. Point out poor pacing or rushed conclusions, get attacked by the wokescolds; watch and praise character writing or score, get called a faggot by the anti-woke.

K-pop cartoon bad

>>149627879
Like if it's both ways or only if it's to your preferred races? And how do you feel about race swaps for fetish reasons vs alternative universe vs political goal scoring/rage bait? And do you like them surfacelevel or for other aspects changed like early life and slight personality tweeks?

>>149612845 (OP)
The HBO spawn cartoon is boring. Keith David only slightly saves it.

>>149628180
The three girls look really ugly and gross. They're made to look pretty but they don't come off that way, all the reaction faces and shit make them look like ogres. The boy band looks more attractive than them, and I'm not just saying that as a faggot.

>>149628211
I just like when they give the characters proper ethnic/cultural features that they’re swapping to instead of just painting them a different skin color

>>149612845 (OP)
>Family Guy peaked between seasons 2 to 21, the show died starting with 22
>American Dad has always been quality, this includes the TBS episodes
>King of the Hill was mostly quality, but it only peaked during the late 90s through early to mid 00s
>ATLA, OG Teen Titans and OG Ben 10 were not special at emulating the anime aesthetics, especially during the 00s, and even the writing for these were boring. I know I'm about to compare apples to oranges, but The Boondocks had better writing than either
>Futurama is alright, but it's not creative
>Seasons four and five of Spongebob were pretty good and might be close to the same scale as seasons two and three, but I never cared for the first season. Season six was decent, but season seven was when the show started to become truly bad

>>149625252
(You)

>>149619637
Do you honestly think this, or are you just being contrarian to humor the OP?

>>149612859
FPBP.
>>149614132
Disagree. Adventure Time was very special and incredibly endearing from the start. I will concede that most cartoons were shit at the time though.
>>149615979
Your brain is just fried from gooning. Avatar is on the whole a masterpiece.
>>149616049
Avatar's worldbuilding and overall storytelling mogs 99% of popular anime.
>>149616375
I'd agree if the comedy was better.
>>149620629
TRUE
>>149622889
Don't think this is a controversial take
>>149622153
Now THIS is a real shit take. Damn.

Cartoons and the community around them were better back before internet influencers constantly insisted "UHM ACKSHULLY THIS SHOW HAS MATURE THEMES AND NEEDS TO BE RESPECTED AS ADULT ENTERTAINMENT"
This cringe-ass culture makes it far more embarrassing to publicly enjoy cartoons than it was before.
The normiefication of being an animation connoisseur makes me sad, especially with outright faggots like Schafrillas leading the charge. I hate that i share a favorite movie with that bitch.

>>149628698
this unironically

>>149625276
of the April incarnations, the 4Kids one was my personal favorite. The 07 movie was tied a close second with the OG late-80s/early-90s cartoon show

>>149628838
Don't know if I disagree...
My hot take is that the Avatar franchise is actually great. I love the family dynamics in TWoW

>>149628698
This opinion isn’t unpopular here, the only people who would get mad at this is cartoon twitter

>>149628572
>Avatar's worldbuilding and overall storytelling mogs 99% of popular anime.
Not really and who the fuck cares about populairty. Ashita no joe is one the father of shounen and has more mature themes and better characterization that atla. The storytelling in atla is just ok, only people that haven’t experienced more animation both eastern and western think it’s a masterpiece.

>>149628874
Yeah, I legit like the movies. I'm looking forward to the new one, and also fully expecting the internet to shit on the movie and its fans like they did with Way of Water. Bonus points if that Spongebob movie coming out the same day gets even slightly better reviews, then people will flock to twitter en masse to make posts like "Imagine your million dollar blockbuster losing to a talking sponge boi!" like they did when Puss in Boots 2 came out.

>>149628977
>who the fuck cares about populairty
I do when I have limited time to watch cartoons.
> The storytelling in atla is just ok, only people that haven’t experienced more animation both eastern and western think it’s a masterpiece.
I'm not saying it's perfect, but damn is it good.

>>149629139
Popularity doesn’t mean quality or else the peak of cinema would be capeshit and there are also popular good anime like cowboy bebop. Also atla isn’t even the most popular western cartoon.
>I'm not saying it's perfect, but damn is it good.
I admit that it is good but it’s status is so overpraised because there is very little like it in western animation.

>>149629357
>Popularity doesn’t mean quality
Obviously. I guess I mean more "critically popular"
>it’s status is so overpraised because there is very little like it in western animation
I think it says a great deal when almost every attempt at a serialized action cartoon has fallen flat on its face and even the decent ones are nowhere near touching Avatar in any terms.
The worldbuilding is where Avatar excels most IMO. It is wildly creative while still being grounded in the dope-ass magic system. The characters are all lovable and arcs are at the very least well-told. Really, aside from a select few very specific gripes, there's so little not to love. I also love anime, but I've seen very few that reach the level of overall quality of storytelling, worldbuilding, and character growth as Avatar.

>>149629484
>critically popular
Idk, a lot of critically popular anime are at least decent but I have no idea how you select those.
>but I've seen very few that reach the level of overall quality of storytelling, worldbuilding, and character growth as Avatar.
I have quite the number of anime that I prefer to or like as much as atla but not all of them have things like in-depth worldbuilding since they aren’t all that type of fantasy and there are a select few that reach highs that make atla infantile in comparison, especially when it comes to thematic/character writing. I agree that it deserves some praise but people that think it’s literally the best written animated show ever and nothing can touch it have a very small pool of reference.

>>149629614
>there are a select few that reach highs that make atla infantile in comparison
Genuinely curious which ones.

>>149629680
Lotgh, Haibane Renmei, the 2nd Patlabor movie, Be invoked, RoV, Satoshi Kon’s stuff in general, Cowboy Bebop, Texhnolyze, EoE(from a pure artistic standpoint), the 1st story of Aoi Bungaku, Soranowoto.

>>149629680
>>149630000
Also forgot to add Ping Pong and maybe I can think of some other ones as well. I like atla but at the end of the day it's just a good shonen, you can get equally good character writing from other good shonen as well. Check Adachi Mitsuru's works for that, I'd personally recommend touch and cross game

>>149629484
Might just be me, but I felt more empathy for Courage in a few episodes of Courage the Cowardly Dog than I ever did for any character in Avatar.

I dunno if it counts cuz it's only *technically* animated, but Waking Life is a stupid person's idea of what a smart movie looks like.

Only reason I know about it is because it always comes up when someone on Twitter says "animation is cinema" and uses Disney movies as the examples and then the rest of Twitter shits their pants with rage because they didn't use "real cinema" instead, and then a friend of mine made me watch it with him, and my god it was one of the stupidest things I've ever seen in my life. If THIS shit is considered "real cinema" then frankly I'd rather animation NOT be considered cinema. I actually think now that the "animation age ghetto" may have been a good thing after all. Say what you will about people who only watch kids cartoons, frankly I have WAY more respect for them, hell I have more respect for thirty year olds with no kids of their own that watch fucking Paw Patrol, than I do people who think this shit is better than pre-2010 Pixar, because at least the shit they're watching was intended to be entertaining! This shit was just made so the director could get into the pants of some greasy college chick with dyed hair and thick-rimmed glasses

>>149612964
madness combat has failed to evolve into anything even after 20 years. its still just a guy killing dozens of laughably incompetent enemies until one of the big bads shows up to do something somewhat interesting. unironically worse than skibidi toilet

>>149616216
You have no soul

>>149612845 (OP)
Ed, Edd n Eddy was bland and unfunny. I have no idea why it is jerked off so much outside of it having a unique visual style and nostalgia. Edd was basically the CN equivalent to a character like Gir who just spouted gibberish in a stupid voice.
>>149630000
>Texhnolyze
I don't really get this one. I loved Haibane and liked Lain a lot but Texhnolyze just felt messy and overly dreary.
>the 1st story of Aoi Bungaku
Every single No Longer Human adaptation I have seen has sort of annoyed me outside of Usamaru's manga adaptation.

>>149613922
Nah anon, I'm with you. Amphibia was completely forgetable and there's just some Asian nut job pushing it in the whole board.

>>149620629
>>149628572
>TRUE
How puppets are /co/? They're just live-action from that perspective.

>>149631744
I love me a good takedown of pretentious slop, I'll bite. What makes this one so especially miserable? Why's it bad?

>>149620629
That's not an opinion. Puppets have officially been recognized as /co/ for many years.

>>149633263
You won't get one because "pretentious" is just a polite handy word to be used by people who don't care about complex stories or topics in the first place but don't want to say it out loud because then people will assume they're stupid.

>>149620629
I wish I still had that screencap of moot calling puppets /co/

>>149612845 (OP)
Smiling Friends is unfunny garbage at best and far right neopuritan incel nazi ripoff of rick and morty at worst

>>149623358
Who needed more correction? The mother, the daughter, both, or neither?

>>149633263
Really only like two scenes in the entire thing that even vaguely attempt to take advantage of the fact that it's a movie let alone animated, it's literally just nearly three hours of talking head scenes where the main guy goes to a new place, sits down, and then listens to somebody talk to him about philosophy, that's all that happens in the entire movie. Doesn't even have the decency to say anything philosophical that's actually new, just paraphrasing stuff other philosophers said a long time ago. A smart movie would take these themes and weave them into the narrative subtly, hinting at them through plot elements and visual cues, and trusting you to be smart enough to figure out what it's implying. This movie spends its entire runtime explaining to you what it's about. With words. Literal words that the characters are saying. Basically nothing else happens, there is little to no plot. They could have just recorded a philosophy lecture from a college class and it would basically be pretty much the exact same experience.

>>149633350
That's the problem, it's not complex at all yet it presents itself like it is. The movie has the audacity to end with the dude floating off into the sky and disappearing and then act like that's some kind of ambiguous thought-provoking ending as if it didn't spend it's runtime beating you over the head with the fact that he can't wake up from the dream because he's in the process of dying, the dude flies away in the end cuz he died, it's not subtle, it doesn't even take two seconds of thought to figure out

I don't hate complex stories or topics, I don't hate when something is thought-provoking, I love thinking long and hard and looking below the surface of movies that weren't even MEANT to be thought-provoking or deep, this one is just not that, by definition it isn't deep when all of it's meaning is as on-the-surface as it can possibly be, there isn't a single thing actually thought-provoking about it

>>149612964
>Ed edd n eddy sucked.
>Jimmy Neutron sucked.
>Fairly odd parents sucked.

>>149612845 (OP)
Not a take about cartoons, but I can't find another thread to say this — why do comic writers seem obsessed with the Silver Age? I mean, sure, you grew up reading it, but come on, that doesn't excuse the rose-colored glasses. I grew up reading the New 52 and I'm not obsessed with it, I know it's crap.

>>149633821

The daughter, by the people on this board until she became straight like her mother.

You don't have to like this movie because even as someone who liked it I'm not blind to its flaws, but I'm pretty sure people who say it's the worst movie Dreamworks has ever made have only seen Shrek, Megamind, Puss in Boots 2, Wild Robot, and no other Dreamworks movies because really this was about average quality for Dreamworks

>>149628698
Not even the internet. It's just jerk offs thinking that every show is more mature than it is. 99% of this shit is just advertising for kids and anything before 1940 was just advertising music to the public.

The worst part aren't even the normies, it's the midwits afraid that their favorite media isn't taken seriously so they take their C- average associates degree to help them sound like they're having a scholarly discussion.

Doug Walker at least knows how to be entertaining.

>>149633950
Jimmy Neutron did suck honestly and FOP stopped being good IMMEDIATELY after Poof was born

>>149634388
It's Spirit or Home that is easily their worst movie. Kraken beats those and orion and kung fu panda 4.

Penguins of Madagascar is still the best movie they've ever produced.

>>149612845 (OP)
Cartoons are only good when they're created to sell toys, because it forces the producers to make something that actually appeals to kids in a way that hooks their imaginations and makes them want to play with the toys. There are exactly zero (0) good cartoons that were not designed to sell toys.

>>149612845 (OP)
Lorefaggotry ruined cartoons. I say this as a lorefag. Gags no longer are gags. No, there has to be something more to it than the fact that gags are vital to the spirit of cartoons than most headass "I wanna be a screenwriter for Netflix!" and "I wanna produce a movie!" fags will ever allow themselves to admit.

Cartoons are political. Always have been. You were too young to know or notice. That said, right wing cartoons have just as much of a right to exist as left wing cartoons. Adult cartoons that titillate and thrive on sex appeal have as much of a right to exist as cartoons that are exclusively for children.

"Beanmouth" and "Calarts style" is nothing, the actual issue is that animation requires things to be as simplified and easy to animate as possible because the industry at large disproportionately punishes anything that isn't being made at a breakneck pace. People will claim they prefer that style to cope, when in all actuality most animators would be fine making complex designs and working with them if they were actually both paid well enough, given long enough of a window to actually do their job without crunching the motherfuck out of everyone, and didn't outsource all the busywork to SEA for pennies to the hundred dollar bill.

Flash is perfectly fine for an animation tool, garbage shows will be garbage shows, improper use of tweening will always be improper use of tweening, etc.

Cartoons and animations will be made by indies using LLMs and Image Generation Tools (I refuse to call that shit AI, it is not fucking AI), and they are not the god damned enemy. Corporations are. SAG-AFTRA has proven corporations can and will poison unions beyond the point of parody. Corpos are your enemy, not god damned photoshop. If you didn't want your art to be used as training without your permission, you shouldn't share it on a public fucking access network.

>>149633950
FOP peaked with Channel Chasers, everything after it was shit.

>>149635153
This! Three versions of Thundercats, two were designed to sell toys, one was designed to get likes on Tumblr, no surprise which one performed the worst

>>149612845 (OP)
Spongebob was never that good.

>>149612964
>Jimmy Neutron sucked.
>Fairly odd parents sucked.
fairly understandable and agreeable takes

>>149618021
>Nu-ra
wat

>>149616375
>when you lose, no one will even remember you
>when YOU lose, no one will let you forget it
Absolute kino. That line in particular is honestly somewhat ruined by having one of the henchmen point out how good a comeback that was.

>>149635270
Not even the pre first movie seasons?

>>149637934
No. Don't get me wrong, it's a completely passable gag show.
But a lot of people's likes for the show is based on nostalgia from when they watched it as kids, and the shared cultural ubiquity the show had since it was shilled in every conceivable way, especially if you mainly grew up with Nick.
Had the show gotten 1-2 seasons, it would have had its fans, but not be nearly as culturally ubiquitous as it is today.
As an actual show though it is pretty mid-tier, and in the actual sense of mid, and not anime mid.
The show actually has good character designs, and scene layout, which helped a lot in it's spread through reaction images and meme culture.

>>149612845 (OP)
I think Arcanes art style is genuinely ugly

>>149638214
yeah. to anyone who’s studied the craft it’s very obvious lazy bullshit. especially when you compare it to better 2.5D cartoons like Miles Morales and Puss in Boots

>>149638214
>>149638236
Ditto. It just looks so lumpy and unpleasant and not in an interesting way. I am kind of glad season two seems to have tanked it's reputation.

>>149638214
Agreed. Any time I see promo art of it the characters look like they're from a concentration camp for queers.

I don't really like Brave and the Bold. I don't really think it's bad or anything, and I'd even still say a lot of episodes are really good (JLI especially) but at the same time I think there's a lot of instances where it's almost TOO self aware to an annoying degree. And while this may sound like a weird complaint for a Batman show but the Batwank levels were frankly obnoxious. Not that he was a respected hero but a lot of the time the rest of cast will just stop dead in their track to call Batman the super bestest ever. I don't think this Batman as a character was at all engaging, I didn't like all the gadgets in his suit and this little gyro copter thing is the stupidest thing I have ever seen.

Beast Machines was better than Beast Wars

>>149638214
Its writing is a whole lot worse. Visually season 2 got worse because every episode had to pause and do a music video sequence for no god damn reason.

The dota show has a lot of flaws, like a lot, a lot of a lot, but at least it didn't try to jerk itself off. It stayed focused on telling a pretty boring story.

>>149612845 (OP)
The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy is essentially Teen Titans Go but with more fart humor. Also it was never as popular as people thought it was.

>>149639056
Frankly I don't think I ever got the appeal of any of the cartoon network originals

>>149639062
You didn't like a single one of these?

>>149612845 (OP)
Super powerful ubermensch races are shitty writing and are a detriment to any story they're in. Any story that utilizes them would be better without them. Saiyans, Kryptonians, Viltrumites, they all suck and make no sense in their own universes forcing writers to do mental gymnastics to save their story and orchastrate asspull macguffins to either neuter them or defeat them.

It's shit, you hear me?


SHIT!!!

>>149639123
Johnny Bravo was solid enough. Everything else just felt like some bizarre fever dream

>>149612845 (OP)
Naruto > DBZ

>>149612845 (OP)
I hate Tom and Jerry

The Ostrander Suicide Squad run isn't that good.

>>149639150
Bring that shit up in /a/ and they'll crucify you.

>>149639398
As they should

>>149612845 (OP)
I know this is a fact and a popular statement, but fuck it. Owl House is the worst overrated dogshit cartoon to ever be created. Terrible writing. Ugly design. Bland, forgettable casts. Unoriginal premise and uninspired setting. Shamelessly rips off a lot from anime. It's just sad and hilariously pathetic when the fandom desperately tries to portray anyone that is not Luz and Amity like they matter, when in reality they got sidelined for more Lumishit moments, and so these side characters end up having a bare and underdeveloped character development like a discarded wet tissue.

>>149639291
I hate Scooby Doo on a profound level

>>149633154
is claymation /co/?

>>149612845 (OP)
The pseudo-anime art style in netflix action cartoons is perfectly fine. Much better to put some effort in proportionate human anatomy than upchuck lazy rick and morty/family guy clone slop.

>>149639150
I don't like Naruto but i also really don't get DBZ or why it is such a sacred cow. It feels like a pretty typical shonen with most of the fights consisting primarily of teleportation loops, it is full of sloppy plots solved by asspulls and there are absolutely no stakes since the only good guys who ever stay dead are nobodies like Nail.
The original Dragon Ball was a lot more interesting yet the entire western fanbase basically pretends it doesn't exist.

>>149612845 (OP)
The Clone Wars was fucking awful.

The CWMMP comics, games, novels and the 2003 mini series mog it into oblivion and the people booing me in this instance would be lazy zoomers with accessibility bias, Stockholm syndrome and/or an inability to read.

Oh, and Ahsoka is one of the worst characters ever introduced to Star Wars. Worse than Jar Jar, even.

>>149639123
You know, it surprises me how many of these are mediocre or downright bad.

>>149639150
I used to be a huge Narutard and this was only true back during original series when it had the potential to be something great. It legitimately could have surpassed Dragon Ball.
Then it became a wannabe DBZ and ruined itself.

>>149639675
Ashoka is every bit as bad as some other directors pet character

>>149635093
>>149635179
>5-6 seasons of being good
Thats longer than two or three of /co/'s favorite browngirlslops entire runs combined

>>149639457
Do people even care outside of cunnyfags and people who still think having a lesbian in your show automatically makes it good?

>>149618083
The world stopped in 2008. Every year since then has just been a more flanderized version of it.

>>149639632
>It feels like a pretty typical shonen
You have to remember it established the formula a lot of later shonen would go on to use.
>it is full of sloppy plots solved by asspulls and there are absolutely no stakes since the only good guys who ever stay dead are nobodies like Nail.
The potential of the Dragon Balls are established very early, plus the series is quite comedic, so no one ever really minded these elements.
What matters most is Dragon Ball was a really fun show with a great cast of characters. People are still churning out memes, art, and sprite battles of these characters. Toriyama had a talent for producing really likable stuff, like the Ginyus and their poses and designs, or the concept of Fusion.

>>149639804
most of the threads on this board is filled with coomers shit posting. the moment we get rid of them then this board would go back to pre-pony levels of slow.

>>149614098
Agreed. Tryhard, forced Tumblr humor from the get go that only quirk chunguses liked and an ugly artstyle that only ADHD faggots enjoyed.
Like someone else said, it was a drop of water in a desert for people desperate for anything good enough, which is why it got popular.

>>149639804
>Do people even care
Nope. No one even cared when Owl House got canceled from low TV ratings.
>cunnyfags
There are a gazillion superior options out there. They're not going to miss out and starve themselves because of some ugly shit toddler cartoon.

>>149639889
>Owl House got canceled from low TV ratings.
How Dana convinced so many people it was actually some sort of anti-gay conspiracy instead of almost every Disney animated series only lasting a season or two in the late 2010's and early 2020's I'll never know. I can't wait for her Glitch show to be absolute trash that proves all of the doubters right.
>There are a gazillion superior options out there.
look I agree but the Disney cartoons from that era have some dedicated cunnyfags.

Despite its thematic relevance, the chromatic aberration visually ruined into the spiderverse

>>149640062
Agreed. I thought I was going crazy when I pointed it out in the original trailer.

>>149639675
I wouldn't call it awful, its just that the quality is incredibly inconsistent to the point some episodes feel like they're from a completely different show. It has some REALLY low lows and some reasonably high highs.

>>149639133
Chubby feminine fingers typed this post.

>>149639675
Agreed. It really sucks how that ended up replacing what was essentially the authentic prequel kid's clone wars experience.

>>149631975
>overly dreary.
That's what I like about it. The repetition, the bleakness of the world all help to build Yoshii's motivations and the way it ends was really really good. I admit that I didn't like it the first time I watched it but it becomes it gets so much better in 2nd viewing.
>Every single No Longer Human adaptation I have seen has sort of annoyed me outside of Usamaru's manga adaptation.
I remember really enjoying the AB one I've never read the Usumaru one so I'll check it out, thanks.

>>149640080
I have no idea why it was such a golden calf of a movie as well. The chromatic aberration was literally my main complaint about the movie and every time I mention it people acted like I burnt a holy text.

>>149639542
Yeah I like the pseudo anime art style for more serious media as well and while I like cartoony cartoons I am not going to pretend studios taking notes from Japan is a bad thing.

>>149639812
>People are still churning out memes, art, and sprite battles of these characters.
If you wanted to point out it's relevancy in internet culture you should have also mentioned that some of the first early internet image macros come from dragon ball.

>>149638107
What do you concider a funny show? I just want to now cause maybe you just don't like gag humor.

>>149639123
Nickelodeon mogs this lineup, holy shit

>>149639811
That's deep man

>>149640062
What thematic relevance? Spiderverse didn't have themes or artistry. It had flashy colors meant to distract audiences long enough to get their money and a bunch of bullshit sophistry to let millennials think they're special.

>>149612845 (OP)
Cartoons devolve into straight garbage the moment it starts focusing on romance.

>>149613741
same

>>149628572
>ATLA fanboy unable to face reality

>>149616216
HA HA HA
ISN’T THAT CUUUTE…
BUT IT’S WROOOOOOOOOOOOONG!!!!!!!!

I thought Korra was solid, not as tight with the plot and setting as ATLA but I appreciated the ambition. I also did like the worldbuilding with the steampunk technology, even if they could have made Republic City look more unique and asian than just "literally New York".

Bordertown was a fantastic show that was killed off way before its time.

atla is only amazing if you were kid when you first watched it and I don't mean that really as a bad thing but rather that you're probably not get much out of it as an adult and I feel second hand embarrassment when people recommend it to adults.

>>149612845 (OP)
Ren & Stimpy, Billy & Mandy, etc. are brainrot cartoons. Studios tried too hard to be hip with kid stereotypes and relegated their shows to dumb and/or gross-out humour.

>>149613058
GOOD MORNING SAAR

>>149634388
I have watched this movie five times
No, it was not voluntary

>>149614109
Sounds like a you problem.

Superior chocolate MILF

>>149614109
It's only annoying when it's Will They Won't They shit, which just so happens to be 99% of romance in media.

>>149622687
>Spirited Away is a bad story and pointless movie. It's the most basic Isekai premise possible, 90% of its runtimes does nothing at all to help the protagonist get home, and effectively nothing happened besides "parents drove into a weird alley, looked around for a bit, then left". The music and visuals carry it. Jumanji is the better isekai and came out first. The fantasy board game adventures actually meaningfully affect the real world, and have a point to it. Plus you get funny monkey antics and Robin Williams acting to keep you entertained, Spirited away is BORING.
Not /co/.

Korra is one of the worst cartoons I've ever seen in my life and I think you've had to have gone through some sort of lobotomy if you think that shit was even somewhat decent

>>149644107
I'm aware this isn't really that much of a hot take but I'll say it anyways

>>149622701
I don't blame him that nigga is mad annoying

The Venture Bros is without question the worst cartoon I've ever seen in my life and anyone who unironically likes it is beyond retarded and deserves a vasectomy

>>149612845 (OP)
Harvey Comics and Terrytoons deserve way more love

>>149612845 (OP)
The loud house was terrible and Johnny Test was fantastic.

Fanboy and Chum Chum was a great cartoon and I'm tired of y'all niggas treating it like it's the Antichrist of western animation

>>149612845 (OP)
99% of adult cartoons suck, it's the same gratuitous sex, violence and swearing.
A good preschool cartoon is much more enjoyable than that drivel.

>>149644181
>>149644189
I agree with these

This is a hot take on /co/ specifically: Primal Theory would be the worst episode of Primal if it weren’t for the season 2 finale. Making it an anthology is a bad idea.

>>149643781
It got localized by Disney.

>>149644230
I agree generally, but damn if Xavier Renegade angel and the early seasons kf family guy aren't special

>>149612845 (OP)
Star x Tom and Marco x Jackie Lynn Thomas was good, Starco and Cotugno ruined the show.

>>149612845 (OP)
Scrappy Doo gets more hate than he really deserves.

I think Bunnykill's choreography is still way better than Madness Combat's.

>>149612845 (OP)
Anime and cartoons are the same and should be discussed in one place. But the powers at be prevent that because of outdated rules that are barely enforced anymore.

>>149616375
The fact that people STILL freak out over the ending and seethe about him not getting what it wants shows that the pill still needs to be shoved down people's throats. Turns out decades of propaganda telling people it's alright to do what you want with no introspection just turns people into ADHD riddled narcissists with main character syndrome. Who would've thought?

>>149644937
I get where you're coming from but it'd be a bad idea. Both boards already suffer from having too fast a pace and too bloated a catalog.

>>149616375
Also that you don't need college to succeed

>>149614684
Still alot better than famous studios, terrytoons, and screen gems cartoons anyday.

>>149623682
Chris savino is a hack

Paul j smith should had stop directing cartoons after 1956.

Cans without labels isn't terrible

Never understood the appeal of bluey

>>149642596
Billy and mandy went to shit by season 5 and 6

>>149639291
John kricfalusi hated tom and jerry for being formulaic cartoons and the fact that they made 15 years of it not changing anything.

>>149639140
Johnny bravo season 1 is still the best season ever imo i like it more than season 2-3

>>149613922
More like beanphibia

Anyways Mighty B and uncle grandpa are alright

Rocky and bulwinkle is one of the only shows that did not suffer from seasonal rot

The animation in the later total television cartoons feel stiff

Family guy is just brainrot humor

>>149644181
Johnny test is one of the main reasons why canadian animation is known for being poor in quality.

Also visual humor > writing humor. Cartoons should be visually driven not written driven

>>149645454
Uncle Grandpa, gone so soon.

Gene deitch isn't a bad director

I dont care for underdog give me king leonardo or tennese tuxedo anyday

>>149644774
I don't think Scrappy even shows up in anything anymore. I think Mystery Inc. poked fun at him and maybe Be Cool Scooby Doo did as well. Velma probably didn't mention him.

You think they should bring him back?

>>149640246
What I don't like about the pseudo-anime shows is that they have basically settled on one or two generic styles. You have the edgy Castlevania style and the utterly soulless Voltron style and that is about it.
If they all had their own flavor like Wakfu, Lastman or some of the other French stuff taking cues from anime I would be all for it.
>>149644937
You aren't technically wrong but the fans of anime and cartoons tend to be different people and the cartoon discussion would quickly get drowned out since there is so much new anime every year. It would pretty much kill /co/.

Columbia cartoons from 1940 to pre upa is the worst golden age cartoon studios to ever exist the cartoons are just blatant rip off to looney tunes like the dover boys one or the sylvester look alikes even the worst studio executive by personality paul terry manage to make some good cartoons due to jim tyer and gene deitch.

>>149644774
The great gazoo imo is much worse than scrappy doo in many ways. Lot of women hating jokes too when he was in the screentimes.

>>149645619
>Velma probably didn't mention him.
He showed up at the end and killed her.

Gravity Falls is the only good disney tva series

Gravity falls is the worst disney tva series

>>149645687
Pacificia is the only good character

The 7D is the best disney tva series but you guys aren't ready for that conversation

Give me hanna barbera any day over filmation cambria productions and al brodax cartoons

Pat sullivan is the first animation hack

>>149645278
Really hate what famous studios did to popeye in the later shorts. They made popeye into a weakling.

The dark ages of animation from 1960 1970 until 1986 isn't too dark

>>149613021
Otto messmer created felix the cat pat sullivan was just a mean boss

>>149612845 (OP)
Skibidi Toilet is actually kino.

>>149646113
anyone who actually watches it knows it’s kino. the only reason anyone “hates” it is because they stick their head in the sand and want to feel superior to people 20 years younger than them

>>149646023
Looking from what we lost from the 30s, 40s, or 50s, yeah I have to disagree. Hell, even some late 1920s shorts look better than the best shows from the dark age.

>>149612845 (OP)
Cartoons will never escape the stigma of being for children

>>149645984
From a level of consistent quality Popeye > Bug Bunny

>>149646349
This. I used to fight this. Since then I have accepted it, for the alternative is straight-up trash

>>149612845 (OP)
Violence based slapstick humor was never funny. Specifically Tom & Jerry. Also, Bugs Bunny and Jerry were assholes and its weird that Murricans sympathized with them. Bully content for a bully country.

>>149644774
It's one of those retroactive hates that happens. He just happened to make the annoying kid sidekick trope popular in media because executives only see numbers and not reasons why things became popular. Talk shit about hannah barbera cartoons, but when it came to business those guys understood when not to step in.

>>149645357
thanks for agreeing with me?

>>149639675
Many are saying this.

>>149614065
I love the sex obsession on this board as it not only makes fags Ike you seethe and acts as a natural filter but it brings out more creativity and allows for openness.

>>149612845 (OP)
All these threads are good for us creating bait and obnoxious discourse that borderline stains this board.

>>149614065
Agreed.

>>149646938
bait, obnoxious discourse, and softcore pornography are the only things this board is good at

I like comics but am tired of superheros and hipster slice of life.

>>149612964
>South Park sucked past season 3 bar their two-parter specials.
Holy shit, I thought I'm the only person who believes this.
>Ed edd n eddy sucked.
I hope you step on a Lego piece for this one.

>>149646921
no it doesn’t. it causes extreme characterfagging and worship of fanservice and causes worship of mediocrity that lack crucial things that actually require creativity: plot, themes, premise, substance, and overall art and design quality.
it’s cattle culture.

>>149648019
Plot? Themes? Premise? Substance? Excuse me I speak English not Faggotese

>>149648198
>heh you’re not a coomer so you must be gay
enough coomcel shit

>>149648232
You are gay.

>>149648019
Well then consider me a bull because I'm all for more fan service. We need more beautiful characters in shows.
We need to be more like the Japanese and French.

>>149648337
Yeah i'm pretty gay man

>>149648662
both of those countries are notoriously pedophilic

>>149649133
As long as you're okay with going to hell

>>149612845 (OP)
Scott Pilgrim is an amazing comic, Alan Moore and Joss Whedon are talentless hacks, Hellboy is overrated, John K. is a garbage human being who was never funny or creative, Big Bang Theory is a love letter to geek culture and absolutely hilarious, Gravity Falls, Steven Universe, Owl House, Rick and Morty, and MLP:FIM are the best cartoons ever made, Seth MacFarlane, Craig McCracken and Alex Hirsch are geniuses, Tara Strong and Tom Kenny are overused voice actors, Ctrl+Alt+Del, Homestuck and Zoophobia are the pinnacle of webcomics, CalArts is a great school that has given us some of animation's best talent, the Marvel Cinematic Universe are the greatest film franchise in history, Inside Out 2 is the best animated movie of 2025, if not the decade, Disney does not have a monopoly on the industry nor are they bribing critics, The Last Jedi and Infinity War were fucking awesome, Hazbin Hotel, Digital Circus, Homestar Runner and Skibidi Toilet are the pinnacle of Webshows, Fanboy and ChumChum, Teen Titans Go, Ren & Stimpy Adult Party Cartoon, Johnny Test, Sanjay and Craig, Uncle Grandpa and Breadwinners are just shows hated by autistic cartoon reviewers, She-Ra does not look like a man, Thundercats was a shit cartoon created only to sell toys to braindead children, Adventure Time, Star VS. The Forces of Evil, Gravity Falls, and Samurai Jack had great finales, Andrew Dobson did nothing wrong, women are funny, the LGBTQ community deserves to have its voice heard, racism and sexual harassment are bad, the drawfags deserve so much better, /pol/ ruined this board and all the others, and this board's complete and utter lack of human compassion is eventually going to bite you fuckfaces in the ass HARD. That is all

>>149612845 (OP)
I didn't have much problems with Samurai Jack's final season. I was just grateful for the closure.

>>149612845 (OP)
American Dad's TBS seasons were way better than Fox seasons

>>149612845 (OP)
>Lobo has always been the best written DC character
>The Boys comic is way better than the TV show
>the best written TMNT properties were both the 2003 and 2012 animated shows and the 2007 animated movie
>Ren and Stimpy was peak during the Games episodes
>Chowder was the best written and animated show on Cartoon Network during the 2000s

>>149616339
>signal their disdain for their media or the politics of their media
I can't even be mad, that's two-third of what /co/ exists for anyway

Ed Edd n Eddy and Kids Next Door were shit.
Power Girl's hair makes her look like a dyke.

>>149650319
Shut the fuck up Boco

>>149646023
Dawg basically nothing good came out in the Americas at that time. Heavy Metal sucked, it had great nudity and great music but the story was complete nothing. Most /co/ fags aren't cool enough to watch the few good things of that era from Ralph Bakshi or Marcell Jankovics. Scooby Doo was nice but Hanna Barbera put out so much other trash that you would have just as likely forgotten it, unless you wanted to suffer Top Cat or Yogi bear also sharing TV space.

>>149650327

Mission accomplished.

>>149612845 (OP)
Superjail, Metalocalypse and Drawn Together overstayed their welcome after season two, respectively

>>149612845 (OP)
>what cartoon take would turn you into this?
ftfy

>>149649424
Why am I going to hell

>>149650547
Definitely agreed about Superjail. I never really watched the other two so I can't comment.

Megas XLR is shit as a 22 minute show. The pilot clearly makes it obvious that the series is better with 11 minutes as it doesn't stretch out the fucking jokes plus it's an action show you want it to be fast.

>>149612845 (OP)
Angry Beavers, Cow & Chicken and Billy & Mandy were better than most of Ren & Stimpy

>>149612845 (OP)
cartoons naad animation is for kids no matter the ammount of "le deeep amd depreeesed" stories you make or the ammount of curses you put in them

>>149652382
This. I'm very sick and tired of manchildren on social media pushing their agenda on how animation should "be for adults," then turn around and recommend the same jaded shitty modern kids movie slop from DreamWorks, Sony or Pixar that they would find good or great for a week and forget about it afterwards (ditto with most shitty modern adult animated sitcom that ape the same formula of humor or artstyle as either Simpsons, Family Guy, Futurama, American Dad, South Park, Robot Chicken, Rick & Morty, BoJack Horseman or Smiling Friends)

>>149612845 (OP)
As far as I know of, there has never been a bad adaptation of Casper the Friendly Ghost. Even the weakest that was the Hanna-Barbera show from the late-70s was still fun and enjoyable

>>149612845 (OP)
Donkey Kong Country is actually funny

>>149639457
Preach. Owl House is literally so irrelevant that there are only one or two mentally ill pajeets that keep spamming this trash on /co/. Nobody gives a shit about this show not even on twitter.

>>149612845 (OP)
I never liked South Park, even when it first came out. It only managed to get a chuckle or two out of me recently, but that’s just about it. And it has nothing to do with politics, in the biggest lefty you’ll meet. It’s just unfunny, and I was in middle school when it first aired.

>>149642481
I love Legend of Korra, it's one of my favorite shows. I avoid /co/ threads on it like the plague

>>149650597
Because you're gay and your family's gay and your dog's gay and your neighbors are gay and your gym coach from high school was gay and Joe Mama's gay

>>149614178
Best Atmosphere
Best Story
Best Boss fights
Best Gameplay

>>149650547
>>149650863
I'll go further and say Superjail should've been canned after Season 1. The titmouse animation didn't work for it and the writing suffered as well.

>>149640004
Disney cancelled the show around the same time the Don't Say Gay bill in Florida did, and they wouldn't publicly come out against it since they have a pretty significant park in Orlando. Dana took Disney's silence and her show being cancelled as a sign the company canned Owl House because of the LGBT stuff and rallied fans behind that. Disney then had to do a bunch of damage control and speak out against the Don't Say Gay bill then them and Florida's governor Ron DeSantis got into a feud over it and he threatened to ban them from the state and DIsney sued him.

>>149615176
>because you're a bunch of 14-17 year old summerfags
How do you know this? Have you seen any of them admit their age?

>>149639675
People say this and yet they haven't even watched any of Clone Wars outside of the shitty rushed movie

>>149642481
I agree, I enjoyed the show a lot despite its flaws. I am also a massive degenerate coomer which probably factored into my enjoyment of the show

>>149653813
Not even true when you have actual TCW fans telling you to skip episodes and how it "gets better" 3 seasons in.

>>149653848
It gets better after the first season, and there are a few bad episodes here and there because the show was very bold and ambitious

>>149653861
Hardly. It didn't do anything interesting or integral the prequels didn't already show.

>>149615494
of my little pony or adventure time

>>149626019
>Extreme Ghostbusters was actually a worthy successor to The Real Ghostbusters.
Agreed

>>149612845 (OP)
DC Comics comics hasn’t been good ever since Bendis ruined Superman. It has been downhill since then and never recovered.

The Absolute books also dull and are way overhyped. I feel like people only like them because the main DC universe is so fucking awful that they would rather invest in an alternate universe. Same with Marvel’s Ultimate universe.

>>149612845 (OP)
This is an excellent and creepy design. But it's NOT what I think of when I think of the Scarecrow - He looks more like a "Hangman" to me. His second BTAS costume is far superior in my opinon.

>>149634000
You're probably long gone, but I have some thoughts:
Nostalgia aside, the period itself is a fascinating time capsule of mainstream comics at their most experimental within the self-imposed constraints of the Comic's Code. It may be a storm of cliches and marketing ploys, but it has a certain charm to it. You know, if you're into that sort of thing.

>>149652923
No way, you don't like shit fuck fart Vivziepop dialogue? Or Cartman existing to be le bad chud to make Kyle look cool? Or the constant Barbie movie-esque preaching to the audience about how stoner morality is le best?

>>149612845 (OP)
Two-Face is lame every single time in Batman. What's the point of the two-face shtick if he's always just bad naughty Harvey? Shouldn't a real two-face be someone that's very cunning, deceptive, and manipulative? Or maybe a manic bipolar, constantly changing moods? He's ot two-faced af all, he's just angry all the time and looks gross. The coin gimmick is stupid too especially in the more serious stories. That was the one thing that dragged down Nolan's dark knight, he was so out of place.
But I will say this much: He was REALLY entertaining in Batman forever, Tommy Lee Jones was a hoot.

>>149653813
>>149653861
Don't bother - you are talking to an obsessed schizo.

Diversity is sexy. It’s harder to get my dick hard if the show doesn’t have some kind of diversity. At least different character silhouettes if you shave them bald.

Also quirk chungus brown girls are the cutest and best girls and I’m not going to apologize for feeling that way. I’m sad we seem to be leaving that era of television.

>>149612845 (OP)
Clone Wars 2003 really isn't that good. Even as a kid obsessed with any Star Wars content I could get my hands on, including Quite A Few rewatches of the series on dvd, I always felt there was something off about it, between the frequent repetitive animation and the fucked power scaling. When The Clone Wars 2008 came along, that worked a lot better for me.

>>149655536
>>149655567
Based crayon eating retards

Smiling Friends is NOT better than Rick and Morty, not better than the first two seasons at least, which have actual jokes. Smiling Friends' only joke consists on the characters having a realistic conversation with no punchline whatsoever.

>>149650547
I'd argue that Metalocalypse should've ended after its second season once their constant dildo jokes got old real quick

>>149612845 (OP)
Fugget About It is actually pretty good and all y'all niggas complaining that it was "boring" or that it's a "Family Guy ripoff" are lying bitches

>>149634388
The worst movie DreamWorks made will always be that Spirit sequel that came out in 2021. Even today, it makes Turbo look like Goodfellas by comparison

>>149655924
Those shorts they did were kinda crap at first but they got better the more they made them. The animation might be cheap but at least they're doing something with the franchise.

>>149654848
Forever, for me, has been my favorite Batman movie, and I still don't get why the Burton/Schumacher era movies get shit on (more specifically, the latter two Schumacher movies that return the camp style). They're still fun and entertaining, and I'd rather watch these than the "dark and gritty" approach from either Nolan or Reeves

>>149655976
I know the shorts were made because the creators realized they needed to capitalize on the show becoming a huge meme all due to its theme song

>>149612845 (OP)
Paul Terry was the Chris Chan of the Golden Age of Animation and his creation Mighty Mouse was the Sonichu of classic cartoons
>what if I combine two of the most famous pop culture characters Superman and Mickey Mouse and made my own cartoon?

>>149639291
I like Herman and Katnip

>>149645521
it's the reason why its Funny Moments compilation videos are a thing. Also if we're going by Seth's shows
American Dad >>> Family Guy

>>149618083
>>149639811
the world ended in 2011 and we should've listened to Harold Camping

>>149655567
Agreed. I will even go as far as say that the 2003 one is complete shit. All style, no substance - and the style is not even good. Durge and Grievous are both retarded Shadow the Hedgehog OCs and don't make a lick of sense, much like anything else in that series. Voice acting is atrocious. Music is forgettable. SFX is weak. It is shot in a bland, uninteresting way. It feels like a Newgrounds Flash-cartoon. It has got to be the single most overrated thing in the entirety of Star Wars franchise. Whenever it is wanked, I can just picture some drooling, autistic child going "OH-OH-GA-GA DAT IS SO BADASS FLASHY LIGHTS BRRR BRRR!", as Mace Windu, who looks like Squidward, spins like cannon ball, while droids just stand there motionless and watch, and let him kick him with his bare hands. And it is fucking repulsive to look at. Like you have to be an actual subhuman to think it is the best thing in the entirety of Star Wars, or really riding that russian jew's Genndy cock like there is no tomorrow.

>>149650174
>>The Boys comic is way better than the TV show
agreed
>>Chowder was the best written and animated show on Cartoon Network during the 2000s
also agreed
>>Ren and Stimpy was peak during the Games episodes
this one is debatable. The first two seasons with John K. before he left are still great even if they are flawed. The later seasons with Games Animation have their moments and they do have great episodes here or there. Ren's Bitter Half, Insomniac Ren, Double Header and Ren Needs Help are among the best episodes, and those were made by the Games crew themselves, and they honestly felt close to a typical John K. episode. Still, I'd rather have those than the canned nu-boot. Hell, I'd rather have APC than the canned nu-boot

>>149656305
I wouldn't go as far as you, but it's definitely overrated. People mostly like it for Grievous and not much else.

>>149635270
>>149638107
Thought I was just a contrarian. I watched three seasons and it's okay but I can't fucking stand Spongebob, it's everywhere, and it annoys the crap out of me. I didn't grow up with it and yeah sometimes it's funny but I consider it the forerunner of a very awkward "staring at the camera and winking at the audience" kind of humor. It's a third hand pretend Mel Brooks brand of humor dilluted with randomness and that 90s grossout I can't stand, with almost none of the charm, and seeing so much of it online kind of makes me sick to my stomach. That's what makes me hate it most so again I might be a contrarian. I don't feel like watching the movie or any more seasons, I am good. I feel pretty similarly about Tiny Toons, Animaniacs and the like, the only one of those shows I like is Freakazoid it's just, Spongebob is fucking everywhere and I can't escape it.

>>149640269
I'll answer for him, I like KotH, Futurama, Simpsons, the Boondocks, classic Looney Tunes, and lots of live action shit like Seinfeld, Trailer Park Boys, Curb, Police Squad and other Zucker Bros stuff, and yes some classic Mel Brooks movies, I am not a hater of comedy, I just feel some 00 and 10s comedy tropes are poison to me.

>>149612845 (OP)
people that say "this character is X but its fans are Y" are mega retards trying to be morally superior, ironically they are the ones that defend shit changes that fail to understand the characters they defend

>>149614109
You're right and /co/ is too deep into shiptrannyism to admit it.

>>149612845 (OP)
people's dislike of criticism has hurt the whole industry of entertainment forever, now you can't be negative about a thing of point out flaws unless is the designated punching bag

there has not been a genuine and honest superhero movie in years, even superman and F4 now are filled with their irony about it in varying degrees

>>149612845 (OP)
TCW is a good show.

>>149656536
>I like KotH, Futurama, Simpsons, the Boondocks
Thoughts on American Dad and Robot Chicken?

>>149656770
Gunn's Superman is a 6 at best but after decades of gray, normie pandering crap I'd rather take Gunn's quirks over this tryhard, corporate trend-chasing DmC Devil May Cry crap we endured for decades. 00s normie edge sucked fucking cock and actively subverted superhero conventions.

>>149657014
I used to catch the odd Family Guy and American Dad ep back in the day and I liked some of them, mostly the former. I'm talking about the mid 00s though. I could sit and watch the shows but with their fame, I get the feeling they'd get grating a couple seasons in. Few thoughts on Robot Chicken other than I was very surprised to see it has /m/ shit like picrel, and that one with Joker being executed got a chuckle out of me, have watched even less.

>>149615176
>MLP FIM Season 2 fucking sucks donkey dick. Lauren Faust quit. Hasbro took control of the show.
This has been my exact same sentiment. Only season 1 was worth it.

>>149622940
This shit's kinda common even on other boards. The general for The Sims for example, has been overrun with them. Still get people saying, "They're not real, so it's okay."

>>149657122
I'd say American Dad is way better and even more different than Family Guy, especially with writing and humor. Plus, Steve is awesome

>>149612964
>TADC was astroturfed on here during the pilot's release.
The pilot has almost 400 million views, the episode that was released last month has 55 million views. It's ok not to like it but you've got to admit it's just really popular, glitch doesn't have the money to astroturf their way into millions of views.
>HH sucked past episode 3.
HH sucked past the first minute of episode 1.
>Madness Combat is better than and came before John Wick.
I've personally never seen the appeal of John Wick, I've never seen an action scene in one of those movies that I actually enjoyed.
>South Park sucked past season 3 bar their two-parter specials.
South Park has it's moments but it's popularity has always relied on controversy rather than quality.
>Ed edd n eddy sucked.
It was good but people act like it's the best cartoon ever when it wasn't even the best cartoon on CN.
>Jimmy Neutron sucked.
How much you enjoy Jimmy Neutron depends on how much you can tolerate bad 3D animation.
>Fairly odd parents sucked.
I've never been a fan of Butch Hartman's stuff, the art has always kinda looked like late series Dexter's Lab and the writing is a bit too simplistic even for a children's cartoon. But I was a teen when he hit his peak popularity so it's probably just a case of me not being young enough to grow up on his work and enjoy it for what it is.

>>149614109
Depends on the story. The romance in Dandadan is good. The romance between Gumball and Penny was good until they stopped doing anything with it and more or less wrote her out of the show. The romance between the villains in The 7D was the only good thing in the show. The romance between Ben and Gwen is good. The parents loving relationship in the Oblongs, various ship teases in Home Movies, Helga's crush on Arnold, Panini annoying Chowder, Johnny Bravo trying to get a date. There are many examples of romance being used to good effect in animation.

However badly written romance can ruin a series. Adventure Time and Regular Show were driven into the ground by bad romance. Korra's first season fell off a cliff because of a shitty love triangle, Gravity Falls had Dipper crushing on Wendy for the entire series only for nothing to come of it, Mabel crushing on every boy she sees just to cause pointless drama and the love potion episode where the writers seem to think that mind raping people into having sex with each other is morally good if Mabel does it. Aang getting rejected by Katara and Steven getting rejected by Connie also sucked and added nothing to the series other than pointless drama, it sucks even more because they did Sokka and Suki's relationship right but screwed up the main relationship. And on the Steven Universe side the fact that they tease Sadie and Lars relationship for the entire series only to randomly pair Sadie off with some random they/them is Adventure Time tier relationship writing.

>>149612845 (OP)
this board doesn't care at all about cartoons, only about complaining.

>>149612845 (OP)
I find Futurama to be very hilarious, but it's not creative. Also, I never cared for its more drama-filled episodes

>>149659561
i don't think anyone's claimed futurama's creative. the writers seem to actively resist worldbuilding

>>149659561
You don't like the Sting either? That's the one I like because it's still batshit insane.

>>149659720
Don't start with me, The Sting as an awesome episode and I will die on that hill supporting that episode. It was chaotic and insane for sure, but it wrapped up in the nicest way possible

>>149614178
Kys trannyfaggot

>>149657469
Family Guy is weird, but American Dad is just completely batshit insane as time went on. Nevertheless, I agree that the show is great and it has every right to be way funnier than any of Seth's other work, except for The Orville. Roger and Steve steal the show every time they're on screen, and Francine has become the best animated sitcom mom

>>149649154
Stop projecting

>>149660209
Yeah that's what I thought. And I'm not !starting with you!, you said you didn't like drama-filled episodes and I was just asking because I like it too. Makes the most out of the show's curiosity for science and delivers a compelling drama with what we know about the characters, it's one of the show's best.

>>149646612
Grow a pair

>>149644149
Shit taste

The spiderverse haters were right. These fuckers really have no idea what they're doing with Miles.

>>149660278
Sorry, I just had a very long day. But no, I forgot that The Sting was a drama-filled episode, but even as such, it was honestly a great one

>>149635158
Kys troon

>>149612845 (OP)
X-Men 97 sucked.

>>149633430
Kys troon

>>149639864
Cope and seethe

>>149660360
This unironically

>>149660399
You are.

>>149660504
Grow a pair, faggot

>>149660399
>>149660504
>>149660553

>>149660553
I grow apples, not pears.

>>149660730
You are a fruit anyway

>>149660792
What?

>>149660818
Search what it means

>>149660827
No. Explain it to me.

>>149660845
It means you're a FAGGOT

>>149660868
Then why didn't you just say that? Are you stupid?

>>149660792
Hehehehe good one Carlos

>>149660827
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/fruit

>>149660792
That was fucking shit, you've lost your Carlos license, faggot.

>>149660792
That was an adequate display of wordplay but I don't feel too strongly about it.

>>149660875
Yes...

>>149612845 (OP)
The tail end of Murder Drones got shafted to make room for TADC, and the only reason Liam finished it was over contractual obligations

>Vaguely remember a statement made by either GLITCH or Liam after episode 6 aired that once TADC Pilot was released in October the MD series would wrap up around December if all goes well
>TADC Pilot releases, becomes an overnight sensation
>All of a sudden, complete radio silence well past December regarding the state of episodes 7-8 of MD, all the while GLITCH is shilling TADC out the demon hole
>Finally get a teaser announcement regarding MD, Episode 7-8 have been delayed to March
>Episode 7 airs, only for GLITCH to reveal Episode 8 is getting pushed back even further to August, then immediately switches gears and starts advertising TADC episode 2
>MD Episode 8 comes out, ends up a rushed wet fart of a finale that insults anyone invested in the show other than just to theory-craft or beat off

I’m well aware i’m talking a lot of shit without definite proof, it just frustrates me how close MD was to sticking the landing, then TADC comes out and (either intentionally or unintentionally) caused it to steer into a fucking cliff

>>149660875
I'm not that anon, I was explaining what that anon meant

>>149660991
I'm not that anon either.

>>149660792
I am too high to argue

>>149660991
>>149661009
I am that anon, and I am here to rebuttal with a wacky wack wack

>>149612845 (OP)
Terrytoons was just Illumination of the Golden Age of Animation. Completely dull, made cheaply with no artistic integrity, and was only known for shit like Mighty Mouse and Heckle and Jeckle

>>149645687
Gravity Falls started the downfall of Disney TVA

>>149645692
I hate her too

>>149653039
And you're gay too. Now come and kiss me on my hot mouth

>>149658734
>The romance between Ben and Gwen is good.
they're cousins, you troglodyte

>>149658734
I wanna bash your skull in with a sledgehammer for sneakdissing The 7D like that

>>149661682
The 7D was fantastic and you all were so mean to it just because it wasn't lore-heavy/story-driven like Steven Jewniverse and Gravity Fails

>>149612845 (OP)
stephen universe has garbage music and story. Hazbin hotel is garbage for just exploiting LGBT and angry lesbianism.

>>149661673
Incest is wincest

>>149661668
I'm only gay for GIRLS you fag

>>149612845 (OP)
even the shittiest, forgettable or mediocre 90s or 2000s shows from Disney TVA like Mighty Ducks, Teacher's Pet or Teamo Supremo were still leagues better than the modern preachy slop like Gravity Falls, SvtFoE, Owl House, Molly McGee, et al

>>149635061
>Doug Walker at least knows how to be entertaining.
Like him or not, yes he at least can be entertaining and funny when he needs to be

>>149662149
retard

>>149661774
Cope

>>149662253
obvious tranny is obvious

>>149662253
Keep on coping, my nigga

>>149662253
You sound like a Barney loving baby

>>149662284
shut the fuck up you tranny

>>149662149
>>149662253
let's be real. Disney shows are for fucking babies and the only reason they're relevant is because of their live action shows.

>>149662601
>Disney shows are for fucking babies
hey don't diss on Phineas and Ferb and Kim Possible like that

>>149612845 (OP)
Infinity train season 2 was the best season

>>149612845 (OP)
Wild Robot, although visually impressive and riddled with amazing, wicked moments here or there, did not click with me. It insists upon itself

>>149612845 (OP)
Spongebob is extremely overrated and Nick's classic toons are vastly inferior to CN's counterparts. Also, Adventure Time sucks and it's sad to see zoomies and gen alpha kiddos getting nostalgic over it and other garbage CN shows from the 10's like Clarence and Teen Titans Go!

>>149612845 (OP)
Gumball stopped being funny at season 4
Now I know this isn't controversial at all here, but on any other platform it is.

>>149612845 (OP)
Mr. Meaty isn't actually that bad

>>149662751
Cope and seethe

>>149662524
Stop projecting

>>149662564
You sond like a seething fag

>>149662574
Cope and seethe

>>149662601
Let's be honest you're a fag

>>149660957
This isn't true and was never true, you fucking retard. And Murder Drones was very good in spite of it's length. Yes it wasn't perfect, but that doesn't mean TADC somehow ruined it at the end. You're making up a whole load of flagrant bullshit out of sheer emotion at wanting more of the show. This is a sign of both schizophrenia and autism. Almost no part of this conspiracy theory is true, and any parts that are are heavily exaggerated.

TADC is going to be 9 episodes, almost as short as Murder Drones. Gaslight District is, almost certainly, going to be the same - a short series of high-production quality episodes over the span of a year or more.

Is Gaslight District going to "shaft" TADC because their production times are going to overlap - like TADC's production overlapped with the final episodes of Murder Drones? No, because that's dishonest and misrepresenting things. This is literally GLITCH's production model, which they began with Murder Drones as their first series bringing in an outside showrunner to create the show which they produce. TADC and then Gaslight District are just following the trend and cementing Glitch's production pipeline.

You can just SAY you would have liked if Murder Drones had more time and episodes, you don't have to act like TADC killed it you fucking sperg. MD did extremely well, it was a great show and still gets a lot of love.
But yeah your take truly is shit, also Episode 7 + the Finale was pure kino. You're just autistic and really wanted more - which usually would be fine but not when you sperg out and make shit up.

>>149612845 (OP)
Most people who preach about original ideas in animation don't actually want something new and original, only something that caters to their tastes. And while there's plenty of older material that would likely fit, only currently airing media gives them the satisfaction they're really after.
It's a problem with entertainment in general, not just cartoons.

>>149661815
I DONT GIVE A SHIT NOW BEND OVER AND PULL DOWN YOUR PANTS YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT

>>149661815
And what if I said I was a woman myself huh huh huh

>>149663136
>>149663148
>>149663166
>>149663199
but enough from you
anyway...

>>149664075
What's the matter, did i offend you or something?

>>149612845 (OP)
Outside of Shrek 1 and maybe KFP, Bee Movie was the only good 00s Dreamworks movie as it was trying to be a thing of its own. In this case, it was a just a shitpost made by one Jerry Seinfeld stretched into 90 minutes yet it somehow executed amazingly. And Patrick Warburton's character steals the show

>>149664092
Nah, you're just being a Barney-loving baby

>>149612845 (OP)
Aeon Flux was strange, and not in a good way, and I don't get why millennials and late-gen-xers praised it. It's visually interesting, don't get me wrong, but it's just not good all things considered

>>149664153
Cope

>>149612845 (OP)
Raven and beast boy never had any romatic interest in eachother.

>>149664142
Retard

>>149612845 (OP)
Spider gwen and miles make 0 sense as a couple in the spiderverse movies, they go from friend in the first movies to almost a couple in the second even though they didn't saw eachother in years but im supposed to believe they are already in love.
It's just a forced ship to push the writers fetish.

>>149664318
The Maxx was the better weird MTV cartoon.

>>149612845 (OP)
Cartoons need attractive female designs and cool male design.

>>149612845 (OP)
romance and couples in comics are in a lot of cases pointless and the writters should stop making them

>>149612845 (OP)
Man Patrick really started to look like such a jerkwad since S2

>>149612845 (OP)
/A/>>>>>>/co/

>>149664318
Cause it's cool, that's why

>>149664334
>>149664354
Quick question, don't you have anything better to do than to act like a complete schizo wanting for attention?

>>149664426
Sorry but this thread is faggy

>>149664442
We know it's faggy, just like yourself and your sad, pathetic alcoholic father who left to get cigarettes when you were young, and he never came back since, which is why you acted this way, you little shit

>>149664470
Stop projecting

>>149664418
More like season 6

>>149664418
Wtf nigga that was way before he got hit hard by flanderization

>>149664483
You have nothing better to do than sit here and act like a total ass. Let's face it, you don't belong here. You need to go back to your social media where you belong

>>149664517
Cope, i don't care about that shit

>>149664572
You're the one who's coping and seething because you're a literal tranny who is unemployed

I like how this thread spiraled into just schizos fighting each other. Another day on the boards

>>149664655
Stop the projection

>>149664572
>i don't care about that shit
yet you care so much about replying to that same anon

>>149664661
This thread is bad by design

>>149664671
Well get off the boards, you don't belong here

>>149612845 (OP)
I didn't like Over The Garden Wall. The setting was cool but the younger brother was so fucking annoying it spoiled everything else.

>>149664687
Cope

>>149612845 (OP)
I wanna fuck the Crystal gems

>>149660957
I 100% agree that the ending was rushed, particularly at ep 8. I don't agree that was particularly tadc's fault but rather the pacing was just bad.

>>149612845 (OP)
Luz is cute

>>149664707
nice comeback retard. You couldn't think of anything else for a slick comeback. Original. If anything, you're still coping and seething. And another thing, I'm busy in another room fucking your mom

Teen titans go is the most overhated show on the Internet.

>>149664764
Shut up Brian

>>149664684
It's an alright topic, but I suppose I'm also not surprised people started attacking each other over their hot takes, since that is what the OP asked.

>>149664748
You just figured that out, genius?

>>149664746
The pace was extremely fast in MD but I wouldn't say it's a major detriment. It's not a series meant to be binged, it was for watching each episode with months between releases and rewatching to familiarize yourself with the details. That guy is just silly and somehow thinks it's bad that the show was well enjoyed by theory-crafters even though it's, by its very nature, a mystery-heavy show that you need to pay attention towards and can't just skim-watch unless you literally only care about the animation, music and action. But then at that point don't complain when you're ignoring everything else.

The Ducktales reboot might be objectively the worst reboot of a cartoon that I've ever seen in my life (this includes teen titans go). and the fact that it's only remembered for that god-awful deranged and tone-deaf tweet that one of the peeps who worked on it made about it only highlights my point further

>>149664781
Too late, I fucked your dad when he was out during your youth. And now I'm fucking your mom. You're next, gaylord faggot

>>149664903
You're a fag lmao

>>149664813
It's bad beacuse it has faggy shitter meme in the OP and it's a way for retards to be fags about their opinions

>>149664820
I know the pace is naturally fast in this show, but the finale felt abnormally fast for even this show's standards. When I was first watching it at premiere I had to literally go back and watch it again after it ended so I could fully process what was happening.

>>149664913
But enough from a faggot like you. I just fucked your mom six ways til Sunday, and now she's about to get blacked

>>149664695
The more I watch OTGW the more i come to dislike the main trio more and more. Greg is annoying, Beatrice is rude for no reason, and Wirt is so much of a pushover it all kinda kills my enjoyment on rewatch. The atmosphere, the Beast, and the Woodsman are what save the show for me. Watching the show around Halloween is just fucking perfect, but shame about the main characters.

>>149663640
Say what you want about my little cork board conspiracy, but the Murder Drones finale was objectively terrible for anybody with standards who (once again) weren’t just watching to goon or see if their theories were correct.

Thinking anything else is harder cope than believing there are still humans alive in the setting.

>>149664951
Schizo

>>149664995
You're just as much of a schizo as well, fag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKArbv-W3OE&t=2517s
The guy in this video is fucking retarded holy shit

>>149665004
No way that nigga ranked Trolls above Over the Hedge wtf?????

>>149664995
>>149665003
How bout the both of you just get a room and just fuck each other already

>>149665025
Why should I share a room why a faggot schizo? I already banged his parents, and I'm not gonna bang him again. I won't get AIDs from the fucker

>>149665004
That nigga deserves to get raped just for the fact that he likes the first Trolls movie alone

>>149665058
Stop the projection

What the fuck is this thread

>>149665088
>waaah waaah muh projection
continue coping, schizo. Take your meds and leave the internet forever

>>149664873
Like come on bro

>>149665088
>>149665111
Both of you need to shut the fuck up. Both of you

>>149665102
I don't know. It was mostly comfy for the first 400 posts. Then the schizos showed up and shat everything up until it hit bump limit. I guess they'll go at it to see who gets the final word in now.

>>149665118
Why the fuck did he word it like that bro?????

>>149665129
I will after the faggot schizo after me shuts up first

>>149662751
You are so fucking retarded and incorrect lmfao

>>149665118
This some kind of weird femdom thing?

>>149665162
No seriously, please shut the fuck. Both of you. Nobody fucking cares of what the two of you are doing nor saying. Both of you ruined this thread and turned this otherwise absolute dogshit thread into a much worse thread. Both of you need to fuck off and livestream your suicides, respectively. Right the fuck away.

>>149665181
Probably dude also I'm pretty sure that character was modeled after his daughter. He's talking like that about his own daughter

>>149665162
No seriously, please shut the fuck up. Both of you. Nobody fucking cares of what the two of you are doing nor saying. Both of you ruined this thread and turned this otherwise absolute dogshit thread into a much worse thread. Both of you need to fuck off and livestream your suicides, respectively. Right the fuck away.

>>149653039
Yo mama's so, a-stupid. She went to the Apple store, to get a BIG, MAC.

>>149612845 (OP)
Adult Party Cartoon is actually pretty good and Naked Beach Frenzy is the best episode

>>149664970
>It's OBJECTIVELY TERRIBLE.... except for all the people that enjoyed and praise it...
>but this ONE GRIEVANCE some people have means it SUCKS
>and also yes my NONSENSICAL CONSPIRACY THEORY is dumb and has been debunked for over a year but STILL MY POINT STANDS
You might actually just be mentally ill. It was good. Great, even. Could have been even better with more episodes, but it doesn't ultimately ruin the experience and it was a lot of fun. It may or may not be a similar case with TADC since that show is going to also have a similar number of episodes.

>>149612845 (OP)
Gravity Falls is absolute dogshit

How do people you usually talked with, think about your opinion?

>>149658734
You deserve to kill yourself for saying that about The 7D but you especially deserve to super kill yourself for saying that disgusting shit about Ben and Gwen who are literally cousins bruv

>>149612845 (OP)
Across the Spiderverse was hot garbage with admittedly nice visuals, and I hate Miles as a character

>>149665276
Best post in the thread by far

>>149665292
Fag

The party is over. Time to banana split out of my club!

>>149665261
NTA, but the finale would've been better if it had more time instead of a normal episode.

Cyn's defeat having nothing to do with the actions the characters made but rather Uzi randomly having the idea to dig into her mouth and eat her core was stupid too. Especially since literally anyone could've done that the numerous times they were close enough to her if they thought too.

>>149652950
Fagtard

>>149665318
Read what I said >>149665219

>>149652950
You gotta deal with it

>>149665407
>Hey, who says this is your club?

>>149665253
Katie Rice can draw them girls

>>149665441
Tldr

>>149665464
oh right, you're illiterate

>>149665469
I don't care about your faggotry

>>149665473
Yet you cared enough to reply

Well this thread was a disaster midway through

>>149612964
Beavis & Butthead > South Park

>>149665464
>>149665473
Hey, how's preschool btw?

>>149612845 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Luc8BXz46dk
this is the best short ever

>>149665253
more of Soap Girl
please

>>149665523
Fagtard

>>149665558
I'll take that you're having fun in preschool. Have fun learning. Kek

>>149665426
>but rather Uzi randomly having the idea to dig into her mouth and eat her core was stupid too. Especially since literally anyone could've done that the numerous times they were close enough to her if they thought too.
That's not what happened though.

Uzi recalled Cyn previously teleporting behind her and punching out her Core through her back. Seeing Cyn come at her, nd begin to teleport, Uzi was smart enough to turn around and instinctively placed her hand where Cyn was currently teleporting. This caused Cyn to teleport ontop of Uzi's hand, telefragging her chest and allowong Uzi to grab her Core, rip it out, then blow a hole through the planet to let on sunlight from the other side - disintergrating Cyn's core and leaving only The Solver's black hole essence / [NULL] singularity. Uzi eats it out of desperation of Cyn's body still moving and trying to get it back.
No, not anyone could have just done it. Uzi herself is a Solver host, anyone else trying to contend with Cyn (especially wothout help like from N and V) would be instantly dead. And Uzi could only get her hands on Cyn's Core on the first place through that very specific circumstance of outsmarting The Solver and causing the telefrag to happen.
The entire fight was The Solver / Cyn very casually having fun and shrugging off all their attacks. So you're super wrong there.

>>149665579
Learn to not be a fag

>>149665604
Is this what you're being taught, being gay? Man, no wonder the educational system failed 1970 onward. No wonder the No Child Left Behind Act of 2003 was a huge failure

>>149665625
Stop projecting

>>149665639
Well hold on, what are you are taught in school. I wanna know. Is there basic math you call show us? I'm very interested

>>149665650
*what are you taught
sorry for my ESL. Even I need to go back to school lol

>>149612845 (OP)
Beast Wars and Transformers Animated were the best things to come out of Transformers. I never cared for the recent One movie and the 80s show nor its movie were not that great

>>149665650
University

>>149612845 (OP)
Be School Scooby Doo didn't deserve the hate. It may be the Family Guy style art style that rubbed people the wrong way which was why it was hated upon, but in terms of writing and humor, it's still the same exact humor and charm of classic Scooby Doo we've all grown to love. Hell if anything, I'd pick that over shit like HBO Max's Velma any day of the week

>>149665592
I super misremembered that, my bad. You agree it would've benefitted being longer, right?

>>149665765
Which university are you in?

>>149665781
Biology

>>149665797
I never heard of a place called Biology University? Where's it located at? Or are you actually taking Biology. Still, you need to tell me which place you;re enrolled in. I'm not saying what you're either majoring or minoring in.

>>149664071
Then I would be gay for you, but this is 4chan and everyone knows there are no women here

>>149612845 (OP)
I never understood why Muppet Babies was well liked. I dunno, I remembered owning a VHS copy of it as a child and I couldn't get into it

>>149665778
Oh yeah sure. Still think it was good tho.

>>149665542
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvzv2x47KUs

>>149660875
You mentioned apples

>>149665777
Yeah it's pretty much just the ugly artstyle. If it had a different artstyle, it'd be more liked.

>>149639675
Fucking THIS.

>>149666163
Yea and that's why its Brickleberry-esque designs disgusted and even scared away a lot of people. I understand they were trying for a new direction, but not like this. Even 2011's Looney Tunes show, while having character designs that looked very different, still didn't divorce the charm of the original designs