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Anonymous No.149704977 >>149705129 >>149705169 >>149705450 >>149707259 >>149707275 >>149707279 >>149707976 >>149708071 >>149709207 >>149710054 >>149710519 >>149710606 >>149710870 >>149711777 >>149712668 >>149712716 >>149713125 >>149713127
>it wasn't a 66% drop
>it was actually worse, at 67%
But I was told Pedro was a YUGE star and would catapult this to a BILLY! What happened, Pedrofags? Why aren't people rushing to watch Senor Fantastico?
Anonymous No.149705054
This is the first time since 2008 that Marvel will outright lose to DC movie-wise
Anonymous No.149705080 >>149705551 >>149706299 >>149706322 >>149711819 >>149711930
Thatโ€™s what happens when you spend half a decade alienating fans. Plus the FF are not as cool as their fans think they are
Anonymous No.149705129 >>149705233 >>149707459 >>149708722 >>149709363 >>149710627 >>149711274 >>149711640
>>149704977 (OP)
When did Pedro hate become mainstream? I was with my mom this weekend and she suddenly started bitching about him.
Anonymous No.149705169
>>149704977 (OP)
Pedro is an astroturfed box ticker
Anonymous No.149705173 >>149707324 >>149708366 >>149712814
Pascalbros... we badmouthed JK Rowling, why didn't the trannies come to our aid in huge numbers?!
Anonymous No.149705233 >>149705826 >>149707114 >>149707676
>>149705129
His part in The Materialist didnt help. Not only is it a shitty movie, the whole point is that this kind of movie was supposed to harken back to those older movies where they were really actually just masturbation bait for horny women to see their favorite actors and project their fantasies right? Chris Evans(who was also retarded in that movie dont get me wrong) at least earned his spot in that, but for Pedro it kind of signals how forced he is for Hollywood casting.
Granted it sucks for him , he does try in every role hes in so its not like hes bad at his job, but people can smell a forced push I guess
Anonymous No.149705257 >>149705410 >>149710651 >>149710728
>Avengers Doomsday production ALONE is up to 450 mill. in costs
>it's gonnna need at least a billion to break even
Someone at Disney / Marvel must be sweating embryos right now.
Anonymous No.149705410
>>149705257
>Meanwhile at Marvel
Anonymous No.149705450 >>149705471 >>149707320 >>149707331 >>149707382 >>149707859 >>149708587 >>149708610 >>149709954 >>149710347
>>149704977 (OP)
Apologize.
Anonymous No.149705471
>>149705450
I never turned
Anonymous No.149705551
>>149705080
>Plus the FF are not as cool as their fans think they are
I'm an FF fag but anyone who advocates for that take is coping.
Anonymous No.149705826
>>149705233
>THE PERFECT 10
Boy, that sure was a natural and not immersion breaking exchange at all!
Anonymous No.149705921 >>149706027
Shame i liked this movie, but i suppose it was inevitable. Marvel had been shitting the bed for too long.
Anonymous No.149706027
>>149705921
Same here, I'd like for it to get a sequel but the MCU is in such a dire state right now that the only thing that can make them guaranteed mooney is cameoslop. Spider-Man always makes bank, but most of the film's profits go to Sony so they can't rely on him. Now that I think about it, it's come to the point that Sony can be the one to make demands at Disney.
Anonymous No.149706299 >>149706346
>>149705080
>Plus the FF are not as cool as their fans think they are

Blaming the source material in a generalized way is usually a sign of poor damage control from the studio
Anonymous No.149706322
>>149705080
>Plus the FF are not as cool as their fans think they are
Correct but they have more drawing power than Captain Blackmerica and should have done better, the movie is just shit anyway
Anonymous No.149706346
>>149706299
In the case of the FF is a bit more complicated than that. Even in the comics, while respected, they have a more niche fanbase than titles like Wolverine or Punisher, who have the "cool" factor ingrained in them. FF is more lighthearted, more "nerdy" if you will. I liked the film since I think they captured that tone pretty well, but obviously audiences prefer something with more hype moments and aura. The times they've tried to apply more of an edgyness to the FF, like in DeFalco's run or Ultimate, it lost a big part of it's identity.
Anonymous No.149706357 >>149706395 >>149706413
Part of the problem is everyone assuming every comic film needs a billion.
Anonymous No.149706395
>>149706357
Seeing everyone become a BO analyst instead of discussing the quality of a film has truly been something
Anonymous No.149706408
No one cares about the JK Rowling retard shit

It is because of Multiverse of Madness, Thor 4, Antman 3, The marvels, and Brave new world
Anonymous No.149706413 >>149706475 >>149708883
>>149706357
The trades have already reported that both Marvel and DC have set their ceiling at around $700M-$800M now that they can no longer count on Chin and the movie theaters are on the decline.

We know Warner considers Superman an absolute win at $550M, and I imagine Marvel isn't too disappointed by F4 topping at around that number either.
Anonymous No.149706475
>>149706413
FF apparently needed some 500 mill to not be considered a loss, and IF it does it it'll be the only MCU film to do it this year. It's crazy to think only half of the films post-Endame have even made it to half a bill.
Anonymous No.149707114
>>149705233
>The Materialist
The what now? It's been out since mid-June? All I've seen were ads for Elio, FF and Superman.
Anonymous No.149707259
>>149704977 (OP)
It lacked soul
Anonymous No.149707275 >>149708903
>>149704977 (OP)
So did Secret Wars being both a soft reset and a prerequisite for getting the MCU's own version of the X-Men have a similar effect to announcing the Gunnverse before releasing the last 4-5 Snyder-verse movies? Obviously not to the same extent since MCU is still making around half a billion dollar movies, but they both might have created a sense that nothing matters until the "real" event.
Anonymous No.149707279 >>149707304 >>149707320 >>149707362 >>149707859 >>149708007 >>149709475
>>149704977 (OP)
>Black Hole almost kills them all
>Invisible Woman uses the black hole as an excuse to make a joke about her vagina being dilated
Marvel quips keep getting weirder
Anonymous No.149707304
>>149707279
Don't remember that line
Anonymous No.149707320
>>149705450
No need to, I always like it despite some fans shitting on it for not having a comic accurate Dr Doom
>>149707279
Yeah
Anonymous No.149707324
>>149705173
Pedro is talking about Gamers here btw. The most oppressed group of all.
Anonymous No.149707331 >>149707451 >>149707859
>>149705450
>latina Sue
The west has fallen. Billions must die
Anonymous No.149707362 >>149707407 >>149708065 >>149710680
>>149707279
She looks like Kirby Sue. (A gross big cheeked cavewoman)
Anonymous No.149707382
>>149705450
They were right about the Thing looking better with a practical suit than with CGI
Anonymous No.149707407 >>149707436 >>149710577
>>149707362
Kirby Sue could only turn herself invisible and nothing else tho, it wasn't until later than they gave her the power to create shields and wasn't even later that they basically turned her powers into a Green Lantern ring and now she can use them to create cars and horses in the more recent comics
Anonymous No.149707436 >>149708065
>>149707407
She does use her force field in the opening montage
Anonymous No.149707451 >>149707610 >>149707859 >>149710780
>>149707331
Latina Sue is great
Pedro Reed isn't
no idea why that guy refuses to shave that stupid ass mustache
Anonymous No.149707459
>>149705129
It's obvious that he started fucking someone after covid to get his career where it is. Right place right time.

Add to that he's started appearing in shittier movies now like he's trying to speedrun a hollywood career.
Anonymous No.149707610 >>149708453
>>149707451
It was because of his role in Wonder Woman suposedly. He thinks he doesn't look good without a mustache.
Anonymous No.149707676 >>149707687
>>149705233
To be fair, his point in the materialist isn't that he's a model but that this stupid bitch values being rich over everything else. Realistically he should have been played by Danny DeVito.
Anonymous No.149707687 >>149707849
>>149707676
How is the movie? I liked Past Lives but haven't heard much about this one
Anonymous No.149707849 >>149707865
>>149707687
Not good. The messaging is horrible too.
Anonymous No.149707859 >>149707892 >>149708144 >>149708587
>>149705450
>>149707331
>>149707279
>>149707451
I find funny that some of the people who shit in the 2005 movie go
>"Sue is latina! this isn't comic accurate!!"
but ignore that FanFOURstic had a black Human Torch and this one has a Chilean Reed
Anonymous No.149707865 >>149708617
>>149707849
Lmao what does it say
Anonymous No.149707892 >>149708829
>>149707859
I don't like that film but Alba is not too "ethnic" looking so I don't see why they make that a big issue instead of, you know, the writing and acting.
Anonymous No.149707976 >>149708255 >>149709997 >>149711257 >>149713367
>>149704977 (OP)
>a BILLY!
Thanks for using my slang, loyal viewer!
Anonymous No.149708007
>>149707279
>Invisible Woman uses the black hole as an excuse to make a joke about her vagina being dilated
that was hot tho
Anonymous No.149708065 >>149708080
>>149707362
Jack Kirby's Sue was in line with the baby faced beauty standard of the 60s, which Vanessa Kirby doesn't look like. Her face is too long and her dentary too forward.
>>149707436
Jack Kirby Sue, not Vanessa Kirby Sue.
Anonymous No.149708071 >>149708126
>>149704977 (OP)
Marvel fans need to figure out whether it's Capeshit fatigue, Mahvel fatigue, or Disney fatigue at this point.
Anonymous No.149708080
>>149708065
>Jack Kirby Sue, not Vanessa Kirby Sue.
Ah, my bad.
Anonymous No.149708126 >>149708692
>>149708071
All of them.
>Capeshit fatigue
DC also struggled, with the only successes they've had this decade being The Batman and Superman.

>Marvel fatigue
Way too much content, and a majority of it of bad quality, to the point that even well recieved films like the last two haven't done god numbers.

>Disney fatigue
It's also undeniable that, while still putting some hit now and the (just talking box office, not quality), the name has come to be viewed in a negative light, not only from Marvel's side but from other franchises they own as well.
Anonymous No.149708144 >>149708221
>>149707859
They ignored black human torch? What part of Sentinel Island are you from?
Anonymous No.149708221
>>149708144
Yeah, there was a fair share of controversy back in the day. Then again that was Fant4stic, the production itself was so controversial it overshadowed some of the casting desicions.
Anonymous No.149708255 >>149708269
>>149707976
Oh so this is the caliber of person making these threads. Okay.
Anonymous No.149708269 >>149709435
>>149708255
Box Office discussion is the most braindead part of fandom these days
Anonymous No.149708330 >>149708356 >>149708394
What will be Marvel's reaction to this. Is someone already rewriting the Doomsday script in real time to limit the FF's screen time? Will Marvel actually hire a filmmaker and let him put his stamp on their property? Or, are they gonna copy James Gunn?
Anonymous No.149708356
>>149708330
>What will be Marvel's reaction to this
Anonymous No.149708366 >>149708405
>>149705173
>One of the most successful female writers in history, who managed to beat a major corporation at its own game and became the ultimate copyright holder of her creation, being called a loser by someone who is basically property of Disney, and is the most astroturfed hollyjew pet since Rachel Zegler and Brie Larson.
equisde po'
Anonymous No.149708394
>>149708330
>Will Marvel actually hire a filmmaker and let him put his stamp on their property?
Even if they somehow get back on track, they'll never let that happen. Even at it's heyday, the MCU was criticized for having almost all their films feel like they were made in an assembly line. I mean, movies like Civil War, which at least I consider good, stll feels like something with zero personal touch. GotG was the only franchise where they allowed more control to the director and that's gone, and after giving it another shot with Eternals and it tanking, I doubt they'll even try again.
Anonymous No.149708405
>>149708366
Based guatona candy enjoyer
Billy No.149708420
It was alright, but nothing great
Anonymous No.149708453 >>149708561
>>149707610
>He thinks
He's not paid to
That's the director's job
Anonymous No.149708561
>>149708453
I'm aware but that's the answer he gave in some press junket.
Anonymous No.149708587 >>149708645
>>149705450
>>149707859
The 2005 movie has the best Thing of them all so far, some say the unreleased 90s movie has the best live action Dr Doom, but I never watched that one so I dunno
Anonymous No.149708610
>>149705450
*Clip of Mighty Eagle saying No
Anonymous No.149708617
>>149707865
So there two issues. There's a point where a woman doesn't want to get married. She feels like she only with her husband because of his status and the stupid bitch main character goes. That's good actually and then there's the reason why she's not with chris evens which is because he's poor. The ending has them get together in the end but it doesn't feel earned because it's not. She just changes her mind for the last second. The reason she didn't want to be with him was because she RESENTED him for being poor. The movie wants me to feel bad for the main character but I just hate her.
Anonymous No.149708645
>>149708587
Corman's Doom has both a more accurate story/design and keeps Victor's sense of grandiosity, which was lacking in all other versions. The guy talks and moves as if he's in a fucking Shakesperean production.
Anonymous No.149708692 >>149708737
>>149708126
I agree.
>Capeshit fatigue
I was happy to see technology and talent evolve to the point that comic and videogame adaptations didn't suck by default, but superheroes got played out real fast after the classic material adaptations ended. Even comics aren't selling as they used to because of completion from modern tech devices and social media bullshit.
>Marvel fatigue
Respectfully, it's too fucking much. In my kid, teen and single days, a movie event was a movie event. You didn't get more of a movie unless a sequel came out and even then, the nerds entertained themselves and even some normies with fan shit. I really don't like any movie IP enough to gorge on premium TV material until the next movie comes out. Too much of anything spoils everything, but Disney apparently never heard about that theory.
>Disney fatigue
The same corporation that released classic, high production value animated movies then followed them up with shitty direct to home video sequels and now the pointless live action adaptations? The same corporation that struck gold with the new generation princess movies (Frozen, Tangled and Moana) then proceeded to fuck up the unnecessary sequels?

Come on, man. Fucking up the fortune brought by the Marvel cinematic universe was a Disney guarantee.
Anonymous No.149708722 >>149709370
>>149705129
He supports trannies and leans left so 4chan hates him.
Anonymous No.149708737 >>149712905
>>149708692
Star Wars was the most egregious example. I mean how the hell does the biggest film studio in the world manages to drag THE biggest film franchise of all time to the point o irrelevamcy is beyond me.
Anonymous No.149708829 >>149709254 >>149709415
>>149707892
Pascal is whiter than Jessica Alba. Alba is like 75% european max, Pascal is 90% european minimum. If he shaved that stupid porn stache no one would complain about his casting as Reed or Joel.
Anonymous No.149708883 >>149708908 >>149708977
>>149706413
With China closing their doors to capeshit these movies actually have to earn their box office, weโ€™re no longer at an era where shit like Captain Marvel or Aquaman can rake in 1 billion.
Anonymous No.149708903
>>149707275
No, anon. It's just a new Fantastic Four movie performing like a Fantastic Four movie. The MCU X-Men will probably perform like the Fox X-Men did, confounding all the nerds who've been insisting FF and X-Men will save the MCU, because normies already decided if they care about these characters or not years ago.

The MCU in general is in decline and audiences have been burned by too many bad movies, it's not because they're waiting for a reboot, it's because Disney killed the golden goose.
Anonymous No.149708908 >>149708938
>>149708883
Didn't some article said that studios now see 800 mill as the best case scenario for cbm's?
Anonymous No.149708938
>>149708908
Something like that, yes, unless they're mega-crossover events, and even then theyโ€™ll probably not even cross 1 and a half billion when in the last decade they would easily make over 2 billion.
Anonymous No.149708977
>>149708883
Did china completely lock hollywood out? I'm surprised but that'll be much better for the industry in the end. There's no point pandering to the chinese.
SUPER AGGRO CRAG !!lvskrld+4TB No.149709085
im seeing normies meme about his "anxiety" making him grab on and begin stroking his female costars in interviews. i think it's pedo pascal fatigue.
Anonymous No.149709207 >>149709268
>>149704977 (OP)
It doesn't matter if it's good at this point cause I no longer care for the MCU as a whole.

That's kind of the Cath 22 of the whole "shared universe" thing. Yes, if it does well then your audience feels obligated to watch it all. But the second people no longer cares of the grand vision- it all collapses.

Is the new FF and even Thunderbolts good? Probably. But I don't care about the MCU. So I'm just not going to bother watching it. It's like when anime fans reccomend new people to read One Piece, but then when they arew told there is like 1000+ chapters and still ongoing, a lot of people just say "Fuck that, I don't care if it's good. It's too intimidating to get invested into something that time consuming". Same thing. Sure, the individual movie's are good, but I can't be asked to get invested to ALL of it so I'm just going to watch NONE of it.
Anonymous No.149709254 >>149709318 >>149709322 >>149709415
>>149708829
Americans are weird with race and can be convinced someone's racial makeup is different if they change their hairstyle.
Pascal still doesn't have a face like comic Reed, but people here think he's a mestizo because he has facial hair and curly hair. Similarly they also think his accent from Game of Thrones is his real one.
Anonymous No.149709268
>>149709207
And that's just what happens when someone decides there's too much MCU to keep up with, but they've also lost people who ragequit because of some of the retarded things they've done to characters they liked, and getting them to come back for something else is even harder, especially while the people responsible all still have their jobs.
Anonymous No.149709318 >>149709366
>>149709254
Reminder they called Anya Taylor-Joy POC for being argentinian lmao
Anonymous No.149709322 >>149709435
>>149709254
Yeah, I agree that even without his โ€œmestizofaceโ€ consisting of using copious amounts of makeup to darken his skin and styling his facial hair to look like the stereotypical mexican Pascal would still be a miscast for Reed, but itโ€™s kind of hilarious that so many people in this race-obsessed site fell for his Rachel Dolezal/Shaun King act.
Anonymous No.149709363
>>149705129
He is everywhere
Anonymous No.149709366 >>149709459
>>149709318
Same thing happened with Antonio Banderas and Penรฉlope Cruz, and itโ€™s even more egregious in their case because they were actually born in Spain, there isnโ€™t even room for ambiguity.
Anonymous No.149709370 >>149709411 >>149709424
>>149708722
>"""leans left"""
Faggot's family was short of being nomenklatura before Pinochet slamdunked La Moneda. And years ago, he was shilling hard for president Fishman and the left's attempt to replace our Constitution with what would be "the most progressive Constitution in the world" (CNN words, not mine) and the day we had to vote for it, pedostache flew to Cannes for a dinner party with celebrities
Anonymous No.149709411 >>149710449
>>149709370
Anon I assure you Americans don't know nor give a fuck about anything about your country that sounds like a hot dog topping
Anonymous No.149709415 >>149709438
>>149708829
>>149709254
Doesn't help that Marvel themselves (or Disney?) spics him up as much as possible in official promo stuff.
Anonymous No.149709424
>>149709370
>president Fishman
Kek
Anonymous No.149709435 >>149710368 >>149710427
>>149709322
>in this race-obsessed site

4chan is not /pol/. Not all of us are Latinxes trying to bring down other latinxes.

>>149708269
It really is.
Anonymous No.149709438
>>149709415
That shit bothered me too, all promo material shows Pascal as way darker than he actually is.
Anonymous No.149709459 >>149709785
>>149709366
Itโ€™s America, they barely accepted Italians as being white, so itโ€™s no surprise many still see Spaniards (and the Portuguese) as vaguely brown because something something โ€œmoorish bloodโ€
Anonymous No.149709475
>>149707279
>The actress who played the same character 20 years ago is only 7 years older than the current actress.

What the fuck went wrong? Why did they cast this hag?
Anonymous No.149709785 >>149710013
>>149709459
Most Americans don't even know what the Moors are or that the reason so many hispanics are brown skinned are because they have Native American ancestry; they just seem to think that there's just a race of brown skinned spanish speakers that don't have any ties to native Americans or Africans. Every now and then a news story will come out about some important figure getting a DNA tests and turning out to be "Mexican" instead of Native American like they claimed and Americans think there's a significant difference.
Louis CK was on Opie and Anthony in the 2000's and explained how his family is from Mexico even though he's a white guy and it completely blew their mind.
https://youtu.be/o37Hrf75GX4?si=OPYtchFWC-Hvom-5
Anonymous No.149709954
>>149705450
I always liked it
Anonymous No.149709997
>>149707976
Her slang? Huh? Ffs lil Wayne made the song Milli 15 years ago and jay-z remixed it with, you guessed it, a billi. People have been saying this for decades.
Anonymous No.149710013
>>149709785
>don't even know what the Moors are
It's Moops
Anonymous No.149710054 >>149710327
>>149704977 (OP)
>anxiety kicks in
Anonymous No.149710327 >>149710566
>>149710054
*le agarra una teta*
Anonymous No.149710347
>>149705450
You know Disney fucked up when Galactus was unironically more threatening as a CLOUD.
Anonymous No.149710368 >>149710427
>>149709435
>4chan is not /pol/.
NTA but yes it is. It's barely worth fighting the capctha over this graveyard of bots and culture warriors.
Anonymous No.149710427 >>149710656
>>149709435
>>149710368
>4chan is not /pol/. Not all of us are Latinxes trying to bring down other latinxes.
Then why are you being racist?
Anonymous No.149710449
>>149709411
If you use Simpson reaction images then anons would think you are a Mexican pretending to be Murrican, so don't do that
Anonymous No.149710475 >>149710494 >>149710524 >>149710557
The Fantastic 4 should move to Metropolis. They don't fit the Marvel universe and never really have.
Anonymous No.149710494
>>149710475
Why tho
Anonymous No.149710519
>>149704977 (OP)
>Cause I'm a punkrocker, yes I am
... oh, sorry, what was that? Something about another Fantastic Flop movie?
Nah, no thanks. Every Marvel since Avengers has been Avengers and nobody's interested.
We're all going to see... SUPERMAN
Anonymous No.149710524 >>149710618 >>149711016
>>149710475
The messed up thing is you're kinda right. Sue being able to turn not just the one crowd but the entire world with one little speech about family is something I'd expect out of a DC cartoon, never something Marvel.
Anonymous No.149710557 >>149710810
>>149710475
Oh, they did. The Henshaws, remember what happened to them?
Anonymous No.149710566
>>149710327
MOC
Anonymous No.149710577
>>149707407
>Kirby Sue could only turn herself invisible and nothing else tho, it wasn't until later than they gave her the power to create shields and wasn't even later that they basically turned her powers into a Green Lantern ring and now she can use them to create cars and horses in the more recent comics
>cars and horses
>horses
I wonder what she uses that power for, haha....
Anonymous No.149710606
>>149704977 (OP)
But, but, I th-th-thought you g-g-guys just needed to t-t-t-talke your meds, right!? H-Has anyone t-tried telling the j...journalists to just ta-take some *gulp* some m-m-meds? Maybe then they'll f-f-find some better scores? Right? Hello...? HELLO!?
Anonymous No.149710618 >>149710967 >>149711016
>>149710524
You mean it for the "DC has a more idealistic/optimistic world" thing?
Anonymous No.149710627 >>149713309
>>149705129
He was always astroturfed because he's one of them, not White, not very masculine, and has a trans sister. So they wanted to push him as the male ideal.
Anonymous No.149710651 >>149710688
>>149705257
They're going to just keep throwing money at it until they break 1 billion then try to write it off and make California pay it all back.
Anonymous No.149710656
>>149710427
Because they're /pol/ refugees
Anonymous No.149710680
>>149707362
Kirby Sue is 20 years younger than Reed.
Anonymous No.149710688 >>149710806
>>149710651
Seeing how stuff like Quantumania cost above 200 mill and looked like shit I can only think these movies must be at least partly a money laundering scheme
Anonymous No.149710728 >>149710760 >>149711661 >>149712750 >>149712802
>>149705257
Who the fuck is suggest these absurd budgets?! Seriously, 500 mill? For a single movie? How the hell is Hollywood still operational after all these bombs? East Asia has decent special effects on small budgets that don't even hit 100 mill most of the time. Where the hell are they spending all these dollars because it certainly isn't the special effects or production value.
Anonymous No.149710760
>>149710728
>Where the hell are they spending all these dollars
Producers' cocaine binges
Anonymous No.149710780
>>149707451
Jessica Alba is a shitty fucking actress tho
Anonymous No.149710786
Its not a BAD movie per se but I was frustrated that I didn't love it like I did with Superman. Film really needed smaller conflicts/fights, like fighting other heralds, or maybe keeping that Red Ghost opening sequence. Hell maybe replace that with Mole Man at the start so his inclusion later felt more justified. While I understand making this more of a Reed/Sue story, god damn give Thing some love. Also for fuck sake just embrace the catchphrase
Anonymous No.149710801
They should've gotten:
> Reed
Hayden Christensen
> Sue
Brec Bassinger
> Johnny
KJ Apa
> Ben
Adam Baldwin
Anonymous No.149710806
>>149710688
Hollywood in general? Yes. It's tied in with coke importing for a reason, and has been since the days hollywood producers woke up with horse heads in their beds.
Anonymous No.149710810
>>149710557
Shit, I'd say they can swap places but I'd hate to lose one of the best Superman AND GL villains to the mouse.
Anonymous No.149710870 >>149710977
>>149704977 (OP)
I'm guessing this fantastic four cast won't stick around long with secret wars initiating a reboot and since Pedro is already 50.
Anonymous No.149710967 >>149711016 >>149711021
>>149710618
More or less, yeah. I'd believe it if Superman or Wonder Woman gave a speech about how we're all in this together and need to join hands to fight the coming darkness but when Sue Storm did it I was expecting someone in the crowd to throw something at her and it felt made the movie as a whole feel conspicuously devoid of conflict when that didn't happen.
Anonymous No.149710977 >>149713137
>>149710870
Given how closet it is to Doomsday I doubt it, since reportedly they'll recast characters who are already dead or whose actors' want out. Feige basically confirmed last week they'll go for a new Cap and Iron Man.
Anonymous No.149711016 >>149711237 >>149711619
>>149710524
>>149710618
>>149710967
Earth 828 apparently has blind faith in the F4 because they've managed to fix every problem they've had. Reed revolutionized the world with his tech, and Sue brokered world fucking peace. That's why there was zero military to confront Galactus
Anonymous No.149711021 >>149711237 >>149711619
>>149710967
I see that, but you can argue that the point of showing this universe was to do a what if on "what if global optimism didn't die out". It consciously portrays a reality who is idealistic at It's core, unlike the main MCU and our world. The choice of having the Future Foundation flag on the Moon instead of the American flag was to showcase that this reality thrives due to global cooperation (and while brief, having Latveria absent from the world organizations was to put isolationist notions in a bad light).
Anonymous No.149711237
>>149711016
>>149711021
I get that, but this isn't just an MCU thing, it's a Marvel thing in general that Marvel civilians are kind of assholes. It's why stories like Civil War can even exist, it permeates everything from X-men to Spider-man, etc. It just felt weird to finally have an exception to this rule.
Anonymous No.149711257
>>149707976
She talks like she had a stroke
Anonymous No.149711274
>>149705129
Astroturfed Celebrities eventually fall victim of their own false hype. See Jonathan Majors.
Anonymous No.149711619 >>149713121
>>149711016
>>149711021
That's pretty stupid if it's being used to show that they're completely helpless and also that Doom is running around anyways.
Anonymous No.149711640
>>149705129
>mainstream
performative outrage on 4chan is not mainstream. this is just the basic problem that the fantastic 4 are not that interesting that the movies have always had.
Anonymous No.149711661
>>149710728
because 1) costs are often not what sensationalist headlines claim and 2) studios obviously have more sources of revenue than the box office and have managed to keep themselves operating perfectly fine despite decades of this practice. at a certain point you have to question the narrative when it continues to fail to explain reality.
Anonymous No.149711777
>>149704977 (OP)
Women watched and prefer this over SuperShit.
Anonymous No.149711819
>>149705080
I unironically believe that the FF work better as their own characters, what i mean is that i love the Thing and its always a pleasure to see him team up with other heroes or just doing its own thing, but as a member of the FF yeah he is kind of boring, same for the human torch, Mr fantastic and invis woman are great as a couple and should remain that way as much as they can.
Anonymous No.149711930
>>149705080
Boring movie is worst than Bad movie.

Just like that.

Marvel Studios fuck up everything by trying to be entertainment dictate by suits.

U know what, it's tired.enjoy your thread/slop.
Anonymous No.149712586
>Spider-Man: No Way Home, Guardians, Deadpool the only hits
>new Fantastic Four is standalone from the rest currently
>Spider-Man 4 a year away
>everything riding on Avengers: Doomsday/Secret Wars rebooting the timeline
it's just taking too long, something else will probably replace capeshit dominance in hollywood before 2028
Anonymous No.149712668
>>149704977 (OP)
pedro is overexposed and untalented but competent, he doesn't add any interest to a project but he doesn't subtract much interest either.

boring choice for a boring director.
Anonymous No.149712716
>>149704977 (OP)
Should have made Fanta5tic instead.
Anonymous No.149712750
>>149710728
Itโ€™s easier to steal something and nobody noticing when thereโ€™s a big amount of the thing.
Anonymous No.149712802
>>149710728
Disney's budgets are out of control everywhere and they can't get shit under control. They spent $500m on GotG: Cosmic Rewind. It's a good coaster but that's 10x what most theme parks spend on their big rides.

Wild Robot cost $75m to make, everyone loved it and it made a respectable profit. Migration came and went and was soon forgotten about but again, made a respectable profit because it only cost $72m. Disney need to put out sub-$100m films again so they can mix experimental and pandering films.
Anonymous No.149712814
>>149705173
>Trannies
>Huge numbers
I don't think that even if all trannies suffered mind control and went to watch the movie, there would be enough to make a profit lol.
It's honestly dumb to pander to minorities with a product.
Anonymous No.149712855
The main villain should've been Miles Teller's reed as the maker
Would've been more interesting and you can save Galactus for the Avengers
Anonymous No.149712905
>>149708737

I actually FORGOT Star Wars, so take a point there.
Anonymous No.149713121
>>149711619
Helpless in what way?
Anonymous No.149713125
>>149704977 (OP)
Don't worry, we'll get 4 more movies because Pedro "Bougie Bitch" Pascal is the leading "man".
Anonymous No.149713127 >>149713146
>>149704977 (OP)
Okay, but - It's still the best Fantastic Four film by far.
Anonymous No.149713137 >>149713189
>>149710977
I hope the reboot follows the Earth-616 origins/motivations/powers etc. for the characters instead of basing almost everything on the Ultimate line like the current MCU did. Not that it matters much, anyway. It's going to be shit. They just don't have it in them to recapture the magic of the first 10 years of the MCU.
Anonymous No.149713146 >>149713179
>>149713127
Rise of the Silver Surfer was better than this shit, even with CloudGalactus. Ioan Gruffudd was a much better Reed than Pascal was.
Anonymous No.149713179
>>149713146
Nah
Anonymous No.149713189
>>149713137
If anything, Superman and FF will hopefully start a trend to have adaptations follow a more Silver Age aesthetic/tone.
Anonymous No.149713309 >>149713322
>>149710627
Saying that Pascal is not white is like saying Rachel Dolezal or Shaun King are not white. You fell for his mestizoface.
Anonymous No.149713322 >>149713342 >>149713399
>>149713309
He's non-white by his own admission. He's proud of being a non-white immigrant, it's what his entire identity is built upon.
Anonymous No.149713342
>>149713322
>He's non-white by his own admission
Jews say they're white when they're campaigning for things to hurt whites that they want to push. Jews say they're Jewish when whites are in the firing line for something (as per) and that makes Jews feel bad.

You can say whatever you want to say you are. If you got pink nipples, you're white (because people going on about hair colour and eye colour ignore the cases where people without white skin have that hair colour).
Anonymous No.149713367
>>149707976
Is Grace single? I would absolutely destroy her fucking pussy if I had the chance. She's a really shit film critic but I bet she is good in bed.
Anonymous No.149713399
>>149713322
This is what he said about his race back in 2018. I donโ€™t know if that has changed since hollyweird started astroturfing him during the scamdemic.