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>Oh yeah. That happened
What went wrong?
Anonymous No.149705493 [Report] >>149705559 >>149706216 >>149706234 >>149706623 >>149707202 >>149707283 >>149707356 >>149709050 >>149709166 >>149709847
>>149705478 (OP)
>Black Police Woman in 1938.
Anonymous No.149705559 [Report] >>149706316 >>149708593 >>149708717 >>149709047 >>149709414 >>149709437 >>149710041 >>149712979 >>149715032
>>149705493
Why do you not like black people?
No really, there were in fact black people in authoritative roles in the past but because people are woke now you assume that the existence of women and minorities in movies and shows is part of some agenda to make everyone woke. Black people just can't exist because you think they're taking over the world and killing all white people all because you had a shitty experience with them.

Point is, I don't want you to think it matters that black people existed in the 1930's because I don't want you to get annoyed at small things. I'm not trying to censor you, I'm trying to divert your attention to shit like taxes
Anonymous No.149705675 [Report]
bot thread
Anonymous No.149706216 [Report] >>149706243 >>149706251 >>149706344 >>149706482 >>149706623 >>149707418 >>149714875
>>149705493
Nobody complained about B:TAS being anachronistic.
Anonymous No.149706234 [Report] >>149706239
>>149705493
Shut up faggot!
Anonymous No.149706239 [Report]
>>149706234
you shut up, retard
Anonymous No.149706243 [Report] >>149706290
>>149706216
>aPrIl WaS aLwAyS bLaCk!
Anonymous No.149706245 [Report]
>>149705478 (OP)
I just got around to watching it and I think it's just generally dull.
Anonymous No.149706251 [Report]
>>149706216
TAS was a good show.
Anonymous No.149706271 [Report] >>149714321
>>149705478 (OP)
Why are Americans today unable to make cool action cartoons without faggy writing
Anonymous No.149706290 [Report]
>>149706243
April was an ink golem. Ink tends to be black, particularly the hand drawn variety. So, yes.
Anonymous No.149706316 [Report] >>149706344 >>149706494 >>149707283
>>149705559
Don't make a period peace and then try to modernize it for today's sensitivity
Anonymous No.149706344 [Report]
>>149706316
>>149706216
Anonymous No.149706482 [Report] >>149709050
>>149706216
>But... B:TAS!
TAS Gotham was made to be timeless. It was intentionally vague and able to mash together different eras and feel like they all fit.

Caped Crusader makes it way more apparent that it takes place in the late 1930s. So its changes stand out more. Caped Crusader does a worse job at its world than TAS.
Anonymous No.149706494 [Report] >>149706554 >>149706604 >>149708569
>>149706316
So if they made a movie that took place in ancient greece, you'd want everyone to be a gay pedophile? There is so much more to eras than the problematic shit, and it's weird that you wanna see it, why? I get you want uncensored art to show that life sucks, but not everyone in the 1930's was racist and black people were still walking around taking jobs. And not every black story has to be about them struggling
Anonymous No.149706554 [Report] >>149707283
>>149706494
That pedo thing is overblown.
Anonymous No.149706604 [Report] >>149707411
>>149706494
Contrary to know-nothings' piss-poor understanding of the ancient world, neither homosexuality nor paedophilia were acceptable at the time and Epstein didn't kill himself.
Anonymous No.149706623 [Report]
The animation talent has been bled dry. Terrible animation. That was the biggest problem.
>>149705493
They did exist. It was a black police commissioner that was ridiculous.
>>149706216
TAS was an intentionally anachronistic stew of multiple decades and not marketed it as a genuine period piece.
Anonymous No.149707112 [Report] >>149707162 >>149707283 >>149707318 >>149709070 >>149709330 >>149714921 >>149715032
I can't believe the culture war faggotry was more than enough to destroy this show.
Anonymous No.149707162 [Report]
>>149707112
it was "destroyed" because it was shit
Anonymous No.149707202 [Report] >>149707278 >>149707356 >>149709990
>>149705493
Black police chief was weirder
Anonymous No.149707278 [Report] >>149707329 >>149707333
>>149707202
Why not it worked in blazing saddles?
Anonymous No.149707283 [Report] >>149707342
>>149705478 (OP)
>>149705493
>>149706316
>>149706554
>huh? why are they not slurring all of these minorities in the 1930s?

The world is not a StormFront post. Fuck off.

>>149707112
Are you talking about Batman or Smiling Friends.
Anonymous No.149707318 [Report]
>>149707112
Nigga there are plenty of shows plagued by culture war who do well.
The show died because it didn't interest the public.
Anonymous No.149707329 [Report] >>149707449 >>149707458
>>149707278
Comedy, disingenuous fag
Anonymous No.149707333 [Report] >>149707458
>>149707278
A silly comedy that lets you know right from the start it isn't taking anything seriously.
Anonymous No.149707342 [Report]
>>149707283
Kys fagtard
Anonymous No.149707356 [Report] >>149707458
>>149705493
>>149707202
Or a female Asian doctor working for the police while openly being a lesbian and kissing a black woman in public multiple times in 1938
Anonymous No.149707389 [Report] >>149707458
>>149705478 (OP)
To give as much leeway as possible, certain "creatives" want to change things for no good reason at all. They just want to put their own mark on it for the sake of calling it "theirs".
Anonymous No.149707411 [Report]
>>149706604
I would hope pedophilia wasn't acceptable because it's bad, but a man loving another man isn't as bad as loving kids cause at least a man can consent to another man.

And of course Epstein didn't kill himself
Anonymous No.149707418 [Report]
>>149706216
TES was intentionally all over the place. Sometimes it was 30's. Sometimes it was 50's. Sometimes it was semi modern.
Anonymous No.149707449 [Report]
>>149707329
You don’t even realize it’s a quote from another comedy movie you philistine!
Anonymous No.149707458 [Report] >>149707922 >>149709059
>>149707356
I mean shit gets crazy in crime ridden cities that a black woman kissing an Asian woman isn't that crazy by comparison

>>149707329
>>149707333
You sound like the very people the movie was making fun of, people who think black sheriffs are weird, because it really isn't. One of the most famous sheriffs was black, Bass Reeves

>>149707389
Who claimed ownership over female Penguin?
Anonymous No.149707614 [Report] >>149708056 >>149708947 >>149719121
It came and went too fast. Needed more episodes to spread things out. Most of them were very middle of the road. The only positive change fans seemed to like was with Harley Quinn.
Anonymous No.149707634 [Report] >>149708021
None of it felt engaging. They advertised detective Batman, but I can’t remember of a good mystery or a clever way Batman solved one. The villains were one note, the action was boring. It was maybe the worst, least interesting take on Two Face in media so far. Batman didn’t have any interesting period accurate gadgets to my memory. The setting wasn’t strong enough aesthetically to justify it being set in the past.
Overall it was just boring, a worst crime than being bad.
Anonymous No.149707799 [Report]
>>149705478 (OP)
It was an attempt at a Batman period piece made by people who didn't particularly care for Batman or period pieces, at a time where the audience really wasn't in the mood for another Batman cartoon.
Anonymous No.149707848 [Report]
>>149705478 (OP)
It was an attempt at a 30s period piece featuring Batman made by people who didn't particularly care for 30s period pieces or Batman, at a time where neither the staff or the audience were in the mood for another Batman cartoon.
Anonymous No.149707922 [Report] >>149709219
>>149707458
>I mean shit gets crazy in crime ridden cities that a black woman kissing an Asian woman isn't that crazy by comparison
If they were being honest, it would have caused a massive scandal.
Anonymous No.149708021 [Report] >>149708346
>>149707634
>The setting wasn’t strong enough aesthetically to justify it being set in the past.
This was my problem with it as well. It was more of a hinderance because with out a computer, batman just stands around the batcave looking the same map of Gotham every episode
Anonymous No.149708056 [Report] >>149708895
>>149707614
>The only positive change fans seemed to like was with Harley Quinn.
Quit lying. Nobody gave a fuck about that version of her.
Anonymous No.149708270 [Report] >>149708598 >>149709088 >>149715151
It was fucking gay. Why is this even a discussion?
Anonymous No.149708346 [Report]
>>149708021
They should have paid a lot more attention to the source material. Bob Kane didn't do these "Batman stands around brooding in the bat cave" scenes he was most often in the mansion itself. The cave didn't even exist until #12 and it was largely just a garage for all his vehicles.
Anonymous No.149708569 [Report]
>>149706494
>So if they made a movie that took place in ancient greece, you'd want everyone to be a gay pedophile
Yes
Anonymous No.149708593 [Report]
>>149705559
sorry bud your anachronistic horseshit doesn't appeal to anyone
>Didney's Herc
extremely fitting and/or ironic image to attach
Anonymous No.149708598 [Report]
>>149708270
>*Wheeze*....*wheeze*...Ch...CHIEF...*wheeze*...I...I CAN'T....*wheeze*...*cough*...CHIEF...OGH GAWD...*WHEEZE*...CHIEEEEF...I-I...NEED...*COUGH*...BUTTER...
Anonymous No.149708717 [Report]
>>149705559
Amanda Waller is my favorite character in Ostrander's Suicide Squad.

A black police woman officer does not fit the 1930s.
Anonymous No.149708895 [Report] >>149708947
>>149708056
It was the only positive feedback people talked about, since didn't look like a trashy whore for once.
Anonymous No.149708928 [Report]
>>149705478 (OP)
harley quin design was terrible and the designs for both gordon and babs were also terrible. you can get away race swaping some characters but that is always a gamble.
Anonymous No.149708947 [Report] >>149709173
>>149707614
>>149708895
it was one of the changes people hated the most
Anonymous No.149709008 [Report] >>149713563 >>149714351 >>149714371
>>149705478 (OP)
>What went wrong?

>The show really tries to replicate BTAS setting and writing but both fall flat and there's barely interesting storylines.

>Barbara Gordon and Montoya become the co-protagonists of the series due to reasons. Both are basically mary sues and in some episodes Batman is relegated to being saved or helped by them.

>Harvey Dent's arc throughout the show is that he is a scummy DA that will do anything for power and it suddenly backpedals one episode before he gets turned into Two Face to try to fit with the duality of chatacter which doesn't work.

>Harley Quinn's "reinterpretation" to turn her into a serious psychologist gets thrown out of the window as she acts as her usual whacky self whenever she comes out of her office to talk to Barbara, which is now conveniently her friend. Honorable mention to the lair full of barely disguised fetishes.

>Bullock and Flass end up being the most fun characters in the show which probably wasn't the intention of the writers

>Bruce and Alfred's relationship return to the "you are just the butler" period-
Anonymous No.149709028 [Report]
>>149705478 (OP)
It was woke
Anonymous No.149709043 [Report] >>149709102 >>149709222 >>149715151
>>149705478 (OP)
The worst of modern cartoon production trends condensed into one product.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_3D14-neSk

There's an artificiality to how they approach laying out the characters in each environment that I just can't get over. In this scene we have people wearing bulky overcoats into a burning building which makes no sense but the crew can't be fucked to rig them to have different clothing models so they just do whatever. None of them seem impacted by all the smoke in the building at all, they should look like they can barely breathe but instead they just look like they're in their default poses where they have a neutral facial expressions most of the time. I'm probably not explaining this very well but everything just feels off.
Anonymous No.149709047 [Report] >>149709194 >>149709219
>>149705559
>Why do you not like black people?
Why do I have to like black people?
Anonymous No.149709050 [Report] >>149709185 >>149709191 >>149709374
>>149705493
The world isn't literally 1938 you fucking moron, it's deliberately anachronistic.

>>149706482
>TAS Gotham was made to be timeless. It was intentionally vague and able to mash together different eras and feel like they all fit.
This is quite literally the exact thing Caped Crusader does.
Anonymous No.149709059 [Report] >>149709219
>>149707458
>Who claimed ownership over female Penguin?
Bruce Timm
https://thatparkplace.com/bruce-timm-explains-why-he-gender-swapped-penguin-in-batman-caped-crusader-theres-a-lack-of-good-villains/
Anonymous No.149709070 [Report]
>>149707112
You honestly don’t believe it? And you honestly think the show was good? And if so you honestly think it wouldn’t be just as good without the culture war bait?

Answer each genuinely.
Anonymous No.149709088 [Report]
>>149708270
Fat fucks.
Anonymous No.149709102 [Report]
>>149709043
This literally looks like scooby doo animation from the 60s
Anonymous No.149709140 [Report] >>149709562
>>149705478 (OP)
If the answer to
>will the chuds hate this
Is “yes”, then don’t be surprised when the comic book show/movie fails.
Anonymous No.149709158 [Report] >>149709167
>little Dick and Jason got lured into the back of the carnival where a gothy teen “drained their essence”
Damn that’s a lil fucked up isnt it.
Anonymous No.149709166 [Report]
>>149705493
You'll hate In the Heat of the Night.
Anonymous No.149709167 [Report]
>>149709158
GIWTWM
Anonymous No.149709173 [Report]
>>149708947
People who like comics didn't like it because it was fucking boring and tryhard.

People who don't like comics (you know, the people making this and the Harley cartoon) liked it because it was different than what the previous group likes.

Also, the thumbnail makes her look like Yakko Warner with spiky teeth holding a mallet.
Anonymous No.149709185 [Report] >>149709277
>>149709050
And CC did it worse. Keep up.
Anonymous No.149709191 [Report] >>149709277
>>149709050
>The world isn't literally 1938 you fucking moron, it's deliberately anachronistic.
>This is quite literally the exact thing Caped Crusader does.
"Just because you repeat the lie over and over doesn't make it true." is a lesson most people learn when they're 3-5, but I guess SOME people never get around to it.
Anonymous No.149709194 [Report] >>149714365
>>149709047
You got your ass kicked by a black person when you were a kid.
Anonymous No.149709203 [Report]
>>149705478 (OP)
It was one of those weird woke projects that tried to be as inoffensive as possible but in doing so, it exiled anything that could have made it stand out.

Yeah troons get a a black police woman who isn't overbearing and an actually decent character but nobody is going to give a fuck about that over the Killing Joke
Anonymous No.149709219 [Report] >>149709374
>>149709047
You don't have to like black people, if there's a black guy who's a dick then fuck him, but don't say black people suck because of dicks like him

>>149707922
Compared to everything else that happens in Gotham?
Would you be interested in a plot involving a scandal between two lesbian being chased by the law?

>>149709059
He didn't verbatim say "I own the penguin now"
Anonymous No.149709222 [Report]
>>149709043
Not that I've ever drawn or animated anything in my life but I swear I'm not complaining about nothing. When Montoya walks into frame here she seems superimposed right over the bumper and wheel of the vehicle behind them. There's no sense of proper persepctive. And why are they all standing so close to the car anyway? I can't believe animation professionals looked at this and thought it was good enough.
Anonymous No.149709241 [Report] >>149709279 >>149709430
>BLACK POLICE WOMAN
Montoya is a Latina, you dumbass /pol/tards.
Anonymous No.149709267 [Report]
>>149705478 (OP)
It will be forever remembered as the female fatass penguin show
Just like MAwS will be just the safe horny lois show
Anonymous No.149709277 [Report]
>>149709185
That's entirely subjective. I loved its visual style, personally.

>>149709191
So you're an idiot then. Ok
Anonymous No.149709279 [Report] >>149709293
>>149709241
>Another flavor of shitskin

And why do you think we care?
Anonymous No.149709293 [Report]
>>149709279
Post face.
Anonymous No.149709324 [Report] >>149709430
I also love how we're all pretending like this show failed when it got high viewership, was well received by critics and audiences alike, and is getting a season 2.

But a few /pol/tards didn't like it so that means it failed.
Anonymous No.149709330 [Report]
>>149707112
Too many people wasted their credibility defending garbage.
Anonymous No.149709357 [Report]
It failed because it is woke. Simple as.
Anonymous No.149709374 [Report] >>149709461
>>149709050
That's the opposite of what they said.
>Timm and character designer James Tucker say that the number one priority of Batman: Caped Crusader was making sure it wasn’t just a repeat of B:TAS. The best way to do that, they decided, was to make the new show fully a ‘40s-set period piece, rather than repeating the anachronistic jumble of computers and pay phones that defined B:TAS.
https://ew.com/batman-caped-crusader-exclusive-first-look-asian-american-harley-quinn-8645683
>>149709219
>Compared to everything else that happens in Gotham?
Yes. And sure, why not?
Anonymous No.149709414 [Report]
>>149705559
Well first of all "black people" is an oxymoron because NIGGERS are not people. A single video of a nigger mammy bouncing 3 month old Jamal's head off the kitchen floor like a basketball because he won't stop crying for some reason she can't quite grasp should dispel that patently absurd notion. Now that we've established the glaringly obvious with very basic pereption skills, I'll tell you that no, I don't want to see niggers. Niggers are ugly, obnoxious and just unpleasant to look at, not least because looking at a nigger unfortunately reminds you that niggers exis. I see niggers when I walk out the door of my home (which has three different locks due to the rampant robberies in my area) and I'm treated to the sight of a dilapidated city street with walls covered in graffiti and sidewalks covered in used heroin needles, trash and sewage. I see niggers when I'm waiting for the bus, though I hear them first because everywhere they go they have to hoot, holler, ook ook, blast that rancid aural cancer called (c)Rap, and otherwise make as much noise as possible just to make sure my morning is a miserable one. When I come back from work I see a nigger crackhead and know I have to be as still and silent as possible because anything at all might send it into a murderous frenzy and I'll go to jail if I have the temerity of defending myself against it. Niggers make the world a worse place to live in, and every secong a nigger continues to breathe it siphons more beauty and wonder from the world and replaces it with filth and misery. The only context in which I'd want to see a nigger is if the nigger in question is being shot, stabbed, run over, burned alive, drowned, crushed, eaten by wild animals, electrocuted or otherwise dying in agonizing fashion. Otherwise no, I don't ever want to see a nigger ever again in my life, nor would I like any of my descendants to see a nigger in their lives either.

TL;DR no, I do not want to see niggers in my entertainment.
Anonymous No.149709427 [Report]
>>149705478 (OP)
The Batman cartoon before that sucked too. The Harley Quinn show was also bad. Why are we pretending with this one?
Anonymous No.149709430 [Report] >>149709507
>>149709241
>>149709324
Anonymous No.149709437 [Report]
>>149705559
>and killing all white people all because you had a shitty experience with them.

Blacks aren't killing whites knowingly, that's the Jews using Women's Rights and Non Whites as tools to replace them.
Anonymous No.149709461 [Report]
>>149709374
>rather than repeating the anachronistic jumble of computers and pay phones that defined B:TAS.
I liked that about BTAS. Very clearly they like the aesthetic but don't want to bend over backwards for the sake of realism because who the fuck cares.
Anonymous No.149709507 [Report] >>149709569
>>149709430
/tv/ is a /pol/ shelter now.
Anonymous No.149709551 [Report]
>>149705478 (OP)
It was very woke and lazily made
Anonymous No.149709562 [Report]
>>149709140
It’s crazy that none of these companies has tried making a show or movie for the chuds in the last ten to fifteen years just to see how it does.
Anonymous No.149709569 [Report]
>>149709507
>now
Anonymous No.149709620 [Report]
>>149705478 (OP)
I liked it overall, it did give a unique spin to things. Seeing the Duo life of Bruce and bats is nice. I recall I didn't like what they did with two face turning him into a one off anti-villain.
Anonymous No.149709786 [Report]
>>149705478 (OP)
I cannot remember anything about the show.
It's entirely forgettable.
Anonymous No.149709847 [Report]
>>149705493
fpbp
Anonymous No.149709889 [Report] >>149710102 >>149711127 >>149711702 >>149714990
>terrible art and animation
>most of the time wasn't even spent on batman
>did nothing with it's time
>characters are either barely changed or changed for the sake of change
maybe it just wasn't good? Their streak of bad batman cartoons piles on since beware
Anonymous No.149709990 [Report]
>>149707202
This is one of those causes where they could have done something with this but just chose not to
Anonymous No.149710041 [Report]
>>149705559
I think ignoring historical racism is pussy shit and I hate it.
Anonymous No.149710102 [Report]
>>149709889
true
Anonymous No.149711127 [Report] >>149715009
>>149709889
The curtain is drawn, and the Wizard of Batman is just a mediocre man who simply was surrounded by better talent.
Anonymous No.149711702 [Report] >>149715125
>>149709889
>Their streak of bad batman cartoons piles on since beware
What Batman cartoons were between it and Beware?

Beware sucked. It really sucks that Kevin Conroy voiced at lot of garbage before he died. Suicide Squad Kills the Justice League, DMC (Netflix), Batman the Caped Crusader.
Anonymous No.149711722 [Report] >>149714207
>>149705478 (OP)
Bruce Timm disappeared up his own ass and tried to "subvert expectations" and "do something new" by making a Batman cartoon that was worse in every way from the other Batman cartoon that made his entire career.
Anonymous No.149712118 [Report]
Batman was a side character in his own show
Anonymous No.149712979 [Report]
>>149705559
>there were in fact black people in authoritative roles in the past
That’s why DEI was a sham.
Anonymous No.149713481 [Report]
>>149705478 (OP)
Everything
Anonymous No.149713485 [Report]
>>149705478 (OP)
It wasn’t fun or interesting. It was actually pretty boring.

And they don’t do anything unique with the setting really.

And making Bruce Wayne unlikable wasn’t a good idea. And no, having him learning to not be a douche doesn’t make it better.
Anonymous No.149713563 [Report]
>>149709008
I was hoping for Bullocks redemption, I'm not used to him being corrupt to the core. Would have been nice to show a bit of nuance, a dirty cop that does have a heart when the chips are down. Too bad that was thrown out on the first episode when he left a suspect to die in the police building.
Anonymous No.149714199 [Report]
>>149705478 (OP)
TAS was a cartoon that was made for kids and appealed to adults. CC, like many modern cartoons, was made for adults and didn’t appeal to kids.
Anonymous No.149714207 [Report] >>149714465 >>149714916
>>149711722
Nah he was just there for the check. It was JJ and reeves behind all the gay shit.
Anonymous No.149714221 [Report]
>>149705478 (OP)
It's the most bland soulless take on Batman I've ever seen, I wish we got a 80's goth inspired Batman with artstyle that's like Norm Breyfogle's art and using villains from the Denny O'Neil as editor on Batman titles era. I'm tired of everything being a throwback to 30's to 70's or a modern Batman, give me the version I grew up with in comics.
Anonymous No.149714279 [Report] >>149715229
AI can make a better looking Batman cartoon
Anonymous No.149714321 [Report]
>>149706271
American slop was never good. Not even their most marketable and memorable works could pass as 'not faggy'.
Anonymous No.149714351 [Report]
>>149709008
>Harley Quinn's "reinterpretation" to turn her into a serious psychologist
Harley's reinterpretation was switching the personality of her two sides. Quinzel is now a peppy, overly familiar and jokes around and Quinn is a much more subdued and calm villain with a serious disposition.
>she acts as her usual whacky self whenever she comes out of her office to talk to Barbara
Because that is Quinzel.
Anonymous No.149714365 [Report]
>>149709194
That would just make me not like black people so why do I have to?
Anonymous No.149714371 [Report] >>149714473 >>149720970
>>149709008
>Harley Quinn's "reinterpretation" to turn her into a serious psychologist
Harley's reinterpretation was switching the personality of her two sides. Quinzel is now peppy, overly familiar and jokes around, and Quinn is a much more subdued and calm villain with a serious disposition.
>she acts as her usual whacky self whenever she comes out of her office to talk to Barbara
Because that is Quinzel.
Anonymous No.149714385 [Report] >>149714924
>>149705478 (OP)
Anonymous No.149714465 [Report]
>>149714207
Go find the interviews. Timm was the one who insisted that they do things differently. They already did BTAS, so he wanted to do something not exactly like BTAS.
Anonymous No.149714473 [Report]
>>149714371
Okay, you gave your reasons. Doesn't really matter when the end result is dogshit.
Anonymous No.149714875 [Report]
>>149706216
With B:TAS it was entirely for aesthetics, it was never meant to be a period piece and they deliberately kept what era it took place a bit murky. This on the other hand explicitly is so stuff like that lacks verisimilitude.
Anonymous No.149714890 [Report]
Boring ass show. I thought making Brubaker kind of the Head Writer was enough to make it at least interesting, but the episodes are so fucking bland, almost everything in it sucks: the writing, the designs, the layouts, the animation. It's such a waste of everyone's time really.

Season Two might be last one if they don't pull off a very good Joker and hit the ground running with much better stories while improving almost every aspect of it.
Anonymous No.149714916 [Report]
>>149714207
anon you're just pulling things out your ass for your hero worship, Timm still posts on the former Toonzone forums and is transparent about his involvement in the show.
If anything Reeves and JJ probably had little to do with it in the way Burton had little to do with BTAS.
Anonymous No.149714921 [Report]
>>149707112
I think it being extremely mid is what killed it over any culture war faggotry. The entire time I was watching it I couldn't help but think I should be watching TAS again instead.
Anonymous No.149714924 [Report] >>149715253
>>149714385
It bothers me how small her breasts are. Thick women should have big breasts, this just pisses me off.
Anonymous No.149714945 [Report] >>149714977
It really say something that a Batman cartoon managed to grt overshadowed by a Superman cartoon.
Anonymous No.149714959 [Report]
>>149705478 (OP)
Bruce Timm truly is a hack who only got lucky in the 90s.
Anonymous No.149714977 [Report] >>149716343
>>149714945
Gay Fabio Superman beat out Bats... Grim.
Anonymous No.149714990 [Report] >>149718413
>>149709889
>tfw remember when Brave and the Bold got shat on by rabid Timmverse autists when debuted in late 2000s
>Ended up being the best Batman animated show of all time in terms of pure entertainment because it acknowledges and embraces all the quirky fun things that edgelords didn't like about silver age comics
Anonymous No.149715009 [Report]
>>149711127
He is talented, but only as an artist and should stick to his craft instead of writing, producing and/or directing shows and movies. He probably got the biggest paycheck along with Reeves and Abrams and did nothing to make the show better than it turned out to be.
Anonymous No.149715032 [Report]
>>149705559
>I'm not trying to censor you, I'm trying to divert your attention to shit like taxes
you're on a message board about cartoons, nothing you're saying matters man get over yourself
>>149707112
It being incredibly dull was sufficient
Anonymous No.149715125 [Report]
>>149711702
>Batman the Caped Crusader.
it was confirmed Conroy wasn't in the show, just that they wished they could've cast him somewhere before he died.
Anonymous No.149715151 [Report] >>149718790
>>149708270
>>149705478 (OP)
>>149709043
It looked terrible visually as well. I'm convinced good 2D animation is impossible now.
Anonymous No.149715229 [Report]
>>149714279
That's shit from a metallic butt.
Anonymous No.149715253 [Report]
>>149714924
Shut up, virgin.
Anonymous No.149715460 [Report]
>>149705478 (OP)
Animation quality was shit and the writing was retarded. It simply didn't look nice, nor was it interesting.

I personally checked out at the scene where the cops were trying to set traps for Batman and realized he was way smarter than them, and Montoya dropped the gem, "Yeah, maybe we can use that against him". It harkens back to that takedown of that retarded Sherlock Holmes series, and the unique issue of stupid writers trying to write smart characters. They don't understand what it actually means to be "smart", so they write it as if it's some sort of magical superpower, which just makes everything feel stupid.

Sucks. I actually like Batman period pieces, as well as fat lesbians, so this show should have been a home run for me, but it was just too crappy.
Anonymous No.149715778 [Report]
I saw the fat ugly Harley and the female Penguin and decided I wouldn't watch it. Don't really care what else was in it.
Boco !sCZ24qY6KY No.149715833 [Report] >>149716018
On the plus side, it had the first ever bearable Harley.
Anonymous No.149716018 [Report]
>>149715833
If you said it, it probably means that it is somehow the worst Harley.
Anonymous No.149716083 [Report]
>>149705478 (OP)
Honestly I think it shows how much a show like this needs the right time and place. No advertising, on a streaming service that isn't the WB one. Not on cable or YouTube or something. There's a huge section of the population that probably don't even know this show exists.
Anonymous No.149716335 [Report] >>149718848
>>149705478 (OP)
One of the issues with comparing Every Batman show to BTAS is that not enough people talk about how differently it was set up. BTAS' first season had like...70+ episodes and animation studios all over the world working on it. And this isn't just today where you ship out the in betweens to some Korean sweatshop to make the pictures move. You would have animation directors literally fly out to TMS to oversee production. There's plenty of mid episodes of BTAS but even those episodes felt good because they had the budget and talent to back it up. Not to mention it had the honor of being THE Batman show. It didn't really have the tough to follow act later shows would have. Beware the Batman infamously had empty fucking cities and repetitive locations cuz it simply wasn't in the budget to do more. Streaming services respect animation even less than TV does cuz they don't realize how much you have to frontload into a production in order to make it a success.
Anonymous No.149716343 [Report] >>149716768
>>149714977
I don't think Clark is gay in that show.
Designed to appeal to girls, yeah probably.
Boco !sCZ24qY6KY No.149716768 [Report]
>>149716343

MAWS? Of course not, he's in love with Lois.
Anonymous No.149718413 [Report]
>>149714990
God BaTB Aquaman was the best shit ever.
Anonymous No.149718790 [Report]
>>149715151
I wasn't even super hyped up to see the show but knowing at least Bruce Timm was on board and Matt Reeves's The Batman look gave me some hope that we would get some nice visuals but the animation just kept irking me and I kept noticing that they just keep everything on a flat plane.
Anonymous No.149718848 [Report]
>>149716335
maybe it would help if they left Batman alone for five fucking minutes and did something else. Then those pesky comparisons wouldn't be an issue
Anonymous No.149718949 [Report] >>149719482
>>149705478 (OP)
I really like it. It's like if TAS was more dedicated to being in the 30's. I remember in the DVD commentary one of the head writers didn't like the Batwing because it's an overly high-tech UFO in the thirty's.

And the new twists on villains is interesting. I really like Harley as a villain. After all the diet-Deadpool dumbness over the years I forgot how enjoyable she can be. A sympathetic
criminal psychologist, whereas Crane is a pure evil criminal psychologist. She mentioned being mentored by him, I'm more excited for him to eventually show up than Joker.
Anonymous No.149719003 [Report]
>>149705478 (OP)
turns out if you get someone who already did a batman cartoon to make another batman cartoon, the result will at best be only as good as the first one
Anonymous No.149719051 [Report]
>>149705478 (OP)
>"Batman" show where Batman is a side-character so you can focus on the brown women more
No thanks.
Anonymous No.149719121 [Report] >>149719193
>>149707614
The drama with Rupert Thorne and the corrupt cops is interesting. Batman declaring war on Rupert had me hyped. I also liked the Basil Karlo and Nocturna episodes.

It's just Two-Face I didn't like. He just seemed to be angry instead of a real personality split, and then he died, so what was the point
Anonymous No.149719193 [Report]
>>149719121
It was more of a Nolan-esque take.
Anonymous No.149719482 [Report]
>>149718949
I'll give it another watch at some point, but I think a lot of it could've been done better. I just wish they didn't drop all of the episodes at once.

I'm definitely more excited about Scarecrow's appearance than Joker's as well, but I'm interested to see what they're gonna do with him. I also wanna see The Riddler at some point.
Anonymous No.149720970 [Report]
>>149714371

Another anon said this.

If you are going to change the character's personality, the character's backstory, the character's gimmick and the character's motivation, then why not make it an original character then? Why it has to be Harleen Quinzel? Why can't it be Mary O' Nette?
Anonymous No.149721720 [Report]
I liked Nocturna's episode but that was about it.