Thread 149846787

I'm sure we've all thought about this at least once, so lets have some fun with it.

Pretend that we are coming up with a new superhero setting. No DC, no Marvel, etc. A completely fresh start.
Show off that superhero idea that has been kicking around your brain since highschool or whatever. Who are they? What are their powers? What makes them special/fun to read and isn't just another interchangable flying brick with an energy attack? What are their themes that define them? Etc.

We can do villains as well, but villains should never exist in a vacuum, they need to be a foil to a hero to be worth a shit so it makes sense to come up with the heroes first and then find villains that go with them.

Bonus round: are there any 'rules' that we should establish for such a setting that all characters in it are required to follow? Either in an editorial sense (no character lasts more than 20 years, learn to wrap up your character and phase them out to make room for new ones) or a worldbuilding sense (rules for how powers work, etc).

Hear me out:

Superman but he is a rapist

I’m gonna blow your minds.

What if.. Superman.. were the bad guy?

>>149846787 (OP)
Glorious:
Setup is that during a devastating attack by an alien invasion force the famous heroine Glorious sacrificed herself to destroy the alien mothership, crippling the invasion and helping save the Earth.

Except thats not what happened. Glorious didn't sacrifice herself at all, she was simply trapped far from home in deep space with no idea how to get back.

Five years later, in a stolen space ship, Glorious finally returns to an Earth that thinks her long dead. She reconnects with friends and family, tries to put her life back together, and get things back to the way things... wait, who the fuck is that? Who is that buff guy flying around in my colors and symbol?
What do you MEAN he is calling himself "Glorious"? Thats MY NAME!

The Glorious name, after her 'death', has been taken up by a pure-hearted fanboy of the original. He's super thrilled that she is alive and back, and he'd love to give the name back to her, there is just one problem: it turns out that the new Glorious is way more popular than the original. No matter how many times they both insist that she should get the name back, everyone just calls her 'Lady Glorious'.
Whats worse, Glorious (lady) quickly comes to the upsetting realization that Glorious (dude) isn't just more famous, he's waaaay stronger than she is. Except that he doesn't realize it! He idolizes the original so much that he just assumes that he could never live up to her example, and keeps assuming that she's as strong or stronger than he is. Which isn't true, but she's much too proud to admit it, forcing herself to power through challenges that she knows are out of her league in order to not lose face in front of this imposter. Which only convinces the new Glorious even more that she is much more unstoppable than she really is, which gets her into more trouble, etc.

Make it a comedy between this prideful idiot and her stronger, but naive, fanboy successor. Also big bombastic super fights.

>>149846799
Superman but he only rapes villians. Dexter buckbraking.

>>149846918
I would read the fuck out of this

>>149846787 (OP)
Less a superhero idea , more a series idea.

A deconstruction of the superhero genere but from the perspective of the heroes themselves. It not about how heroes would "be terrible people aktullaly" but more that there would be more heroes breaking under the pressure, suffering from it.

The Superman expy is an alcoholic, stumbling into it due to him believing he's "not saving everybody", not doing enough

Spider-man-expy is struggling financially and isnt getting any better so he desperately agrees to do a lot of sponsor work for the money, especially because it'll help his family

A female super-soldier hero is having a lot of personal social issue due to her beauty. Every guy around her talks about wanting to fuck her hero identify and every woman she meets calls said hero identity a slut/whore/other terrible things out of jealousy that every man wants her

Theres a Nightwing character that's scared for his life because his batman just died after a major battle due to a heart attack... at 42. Not!Batman pushed his body to the limits so much, forced it to work so hard, that it died from the stress. He had the heart of an old man at 35 and it killed him in his early 40's

The idea is a story of "to be a hero one must suffer" told again and again in different perspectives.

>>149846787 (OP)
There are one or many heroes and people of power on earth as spies for a greater invading force (think Hawkgirl from JL), but put that aside because the lone survivor of the last planet they ravaged came to earth oresenting himself as a C-class super hero but actually capable of much more he plays the role of a cheese hero called Captain Space, looking for the spy heroes before its too late.

>>149847238
Thanks. I feel like Lady Glorious needs to have some kind of power that is very flashy and CAN be very strong, but has some serious downsides to work around, whereas Glorious (man) needs to just be a fucking powerhouse who probably has multiple powers.

Like, Lady Glorious can fly very fast, and has a shield power that she puts in front of her that gets stronger the faster that she is going. So at her best, she zooms in at lightning speed to block an attack aimed at a building, catching it at JUST the right moment, or builds up a bunch of speed and then slams into a bad guy with what is a nearly indestructible shield and splats them like a bug on a windshield.
But the flip side of this is that, when she's NOT flying around fast, her shield is very unreliable. She might not be able to use it at all when standing still.

This means that she does a lot of shit that looks SUPER COOL when she is in her element, but its also very easy to put her in a situation where other people can easily think she has things handled but she's panicking internally because she's having to bluff that her shield will no-sell the enemy attack when she KNOWS it won't.

Dude-Glorious, however, has to be able to fly but is also probably nearly invulnerable all the time (not a shield, just naturally tough) and has some other powers as well. A straight upgrade to Lady Glorious's powers, EXCEPT when she is pushing her speed to her absolute limit and her shield is at her strongest.

A setting in which a supervillain similar to Syndrome or Senator Armstrong actually won and gave every person on Earth superpowers, whether through some crazy tech or a magic ritual. Instead of like in MHA were most superpowers are basically completely useless, every one on the planet is at least a street level super powered individual. This obviously completely changed society, with Superheroes from before now having to come to terms with the fact that everyone is now mostly able to fight their own battles and supervillains having to become far more subtle since every civilian is capable of thwarting their plans just through brute force and swarm tactics.
Also the supervillain who gave everyone superpowers basically became a beloved figure by the public overnight, causing them to win the U.S presidency despite not running or even being an American citizen.

>>149847478
>supervillain similar to Syndrome
Did the public and/or heroes find out he's a serial killer?

>>149846799
So, Homelander?

>>149847478
Surely this would lead to total societal collapse? Children and teenagers with superpowers are a disaster because they literally are not mentally developed enough to understand the consequences of their actions, and any power that CAN go out of control under emotional distress or panic WILL go out of control in the hands of a child. A 4 year old has a temper tantrum at daycare and lasers an entire city block off the map, etc.
Everyone would have to be paranoid all of the time, because you are surrounded by people who, even when seemingly 'unarmed' have to be assumed to be able to delete you in an instant, or worse. Not all superpowers are just punching or blasting, there is also mind control and shit.
MHA works as a setting because as you said most people's powers are worthless, so you can easily assume that most people around you are NOT a deadly threat at all moments. And the most realistic thing about MHA is that its legal system is completely fucked whenever Quirks get involved, no one knows how to write sensible laws regarding quirks so civilization is basically paralyzed in a state of trying to pretend they don't exist as much as possible.
But in the setting you describe, I struggle to imagine how any society as we imagine it can still exist. Everyone isn't just carrying a gun, they're carrying a rocket launcher. Which is only peaceful so long as you assume that everyone is too scared of MAD to ever use it, and falls into total chaos the moment someone is stupid enough to try.

>>149847786
That's why I think it's interesting. The only way the Human race could survive such a setting were everyone is super is if it makes drastic changes. If such a thing ever happened there would certainly be a lot of growing pains as Humanity comes to term with the fact that every one is now capable of great feats of power.

>>149847320
If you want to make this series wholesome as fuck, you start off with all of these individual heroes struggling with the burden of saving the world solo.
One day, one of them saves some therapist or army vet counselor who realizes, in the brief conversation that they share, that the hero that saved them is a mental wreck. Wanting to give back to the heroes, they start of a superhero support group, where heroes can come and vent about their problems that no one who doesn't wear a mask could possibly understand.
This support group starts off as kind of a lame joke, until the heroes start... helping each other. Not just in meetings, but out in the world. Coming to each other's aid when they can. Sharing the load.
They eventually become their world's version of the Justice League, doing together what all of them struggled and almost destroyed themselves trying to do alone.

I dislike when super hero costumes have nothing to do with their name or gimmick.

Even Superman is based on a circus strongman outfit.

>>149847785
No that's Superman but insecure. Gamma Jack is more Superman but rapist

>>149847388
If her shields are powered by going fast she should be able to make tiny shields around her fists as long as she punches fast enough, which is probably how she fights when she can't fly.
Might even be able to deflect a bullet like that with good enough reflexes, which is going to look very cool to everyone else meanwhile her internal monologue is "Holy shit holy shit I can't believe that worked I almost died"

>>149846787 (OP)
A superhero story that is set in an alternative timeline, and takes place in a Federated Europe.

The USA is "UNA" (United North America), with it's main export not being Oil or Weapons, but superheroes they are basically rented out to the rest of the world.

There are some countries like Russia or China who got much more militaristic, because they are not willing to let foreigner heroes bring their ideologies and ideas into their "perfect" countries.

The story follows the life of Nath and Hayley, a caucasian boy and a black girl, who got their powers in a most unconventional way. Nathan is the successor of the powers of an archdemon, and Hayley was granted the magic tome of an ancient witch.

If people are actually interested in this shit, and the thread is still up, I can write some details down once I'm home from work.

>>149846787 (OP)
marvel/dc but all the superheroines are lolis and get raped regularly.

>>149848930
I'd be interested to know why superheroes only come from america, if they can have their powers from magical backgrounds as well. You'd think that the old world nations would have plenty of those, at least.

>>149846799
>>149846819
>>149847190

All of these exist as villains in the setting for a Superman-expy character that never has his own ongoing, he just is always seen in the background. He had a 'clone saga' that happened offscreen years ago that everyone talks about, and he's been cleaning up after his psychotic evil clones ever since, to the point that wrangling his evil clones is basically all he has time for these days.
Just treat the whole thing as a joke at the expense of the 'what if superman but evil' subgenre.

>>149846787 (OP)
Alright I took a random pic on my phone and now I’m trying to come up with something. Anyone feel free to workshop it if you like

>Annabelle the Detective Ghost Girl
>Has ghost powers
>I view it as a mix of Dead Man’s Question, Murdered Soul Suspect, and Wraith: The Oblivion. Bonus is that since the main character is a ghost there wouldn’t be any violence towards a child
>Bonus: (Worldbuilding) There is a Ghost World, or rather multiple of them. Ghosts are based on memories and so each world could be considered a layer based upon the strongest memories of the past. Most of the time they are divided into eras. Like there is a 1990s world, and deeper a 1980s, etc. To go into a deeper layer you must find something that has survived the travel between the two eras. Monuments are the most common form of transportation, but also the most well guarded by either whatever authority that has been established there, or any predators. There are multiple “heavens”, which amounts to city-states from cities in epochs where they were at their peak.

>>149847356
This could be very cool. A nice combination or superheroics and spy games.

Presumably the traitor spy alien 'heroes' have to have some kind of shapeshifting in order to blend in with the local population, or maybe they possess people somehow? I'm just think of how you could make this work and not make it obvious who is the alien, especially if they use this trick on multiple worlds.
It could be that the hero is using the same method, stolen from a spy alien he managed to defeat on his homeworld (which is also where he learned a lot of what he knows about them) to blend in among the humans as well. This opens up the possibility of there being a misunderstanding in an arc where one of the spy aliens assumes they are on the same team, and reveals themselves to the MC.

>>149849429
>>Bonus: (Worldbuilding) There is a Ghost World, or rather multiple of them. Ghosts are based on memories and so each world could be considered a layer based upon the strongest memories of the past. Most of the time they are divided into eras. Like there is a 1990s world, and deeper a 1980s, etc. To go into a deeper layer you must find something that has survived the travel between the two eras. Monuments are the most common form of transportation, but also the most well guarded by either whatever authority that has been established there, or any predators. There are multiple “heavens”, which amounts to city-states from cities in epochs where they were at their peak.

Interesting idea. It also means that the more recently dead are fundamentally 'closer to the surface', and sink into the abyss of time as the years go by. Which explains why you don't have a lot of ancient roman ghosts popping up in italy and yelling latin at confused italians.

I would add to this that ghost worlds are in a quasi-dreamlike state, and most of the people who are dead there don't know that they are dreaming. From their perspective they are just reliving old memories on a loop. But the dead that we would consider 'ghosts' are the equivalent of lucid dreamers: they KNOW they are dead, and thus have broken out of their dream loop and can wander around and do shit. This is rare, but over the course of human history rare still adds up and so you have a little civilization of self-aware ghosts in the dead worlds.

>In a classic super hero world (minus magic), one superhero, grewing tired of stopping bank robbers and purse snatcher, decide to create an association with other superheroes to use their abilities and ressources to better the world.
>But will this organisation succeed? Or will it destroy the world?

>>149849517
I’m at work, so forgive me if I can’t expand on my idea and your addition right now, but so far I think you have an interesting idea. I’ll be free in 3 hours.

>>149849169
The witches and witchmasters/sorcerers hide from the world and practice their arts secretly they do want to become public knowledge and walk freely amongs people not hiding who they are but
>half of the witch/sorcerer society fawors hiding.
>other half wants to make themselves known.
>As is with every ancient councils they usually just keep sitting on their asses when there is a decision to be made.
Also, most witches are non-white because we killed our witch/sorcerer bloodlines during the witch hunts back in the dood old days.


The demons of this world are basically a secret society and the afterlife's military. So they have their own reason to hide. They basically fight an eternal battle against lovecraftian beings. Some of them "wither" as time goes on if they don't die in battle. These demons lose their sense of self, and usually go to the human world to posess people, grant them powers to fulfill their desires, and feed on these desires. When this happens, demons, stationed on Earth hunt them down. Purify the souls of the withered and send them back into the cycle of souls.
Angels are the ones responsible of mantaining the flow of the cycle of souls and assign a soul's place in the afterlife.

Most other countries do have super-powered individuals pop up from time to time but they are few and far between. 99.9% are born in america... there is a reason for this in-universe.

When they are born abroad, they are usually recruited by American heroes and invited to move to the US, if they are talented. (Brain drain but with superheroes.)
If they are not talented, they usually just die anyways.
If they refuse the Sup-1 Visa offered to them, they keep operating in their countries, but not being part of a superhero coallition and not being able to call for backup has it's own dangers.
There are rumors and conspiracy theories that The UNA makes "dangerous" foreigner superheroes disappear, but these theorries are not proven.

RAPE superheroes.

>>149847356
I like this, it feels like a more subtle and fleshed out equivalent of the Skrull/Kree conflicts.

>>149847786
>>149847882
>planetary destruction because some kid has a tantrum
>somebody's oopsie causes the sun to go nova
>growing pains
Uhh...OK.

At this point every single thing has been done. It's gotten to where you need to start doing the cliches well to even have a shot at an interesting story.

>>149850043
I expect that its only subtle until he finds and isolates a target. Then it turns into Redman

> Redman's home planet was destroyed by Kaiju
> Kaiju are invading Earth next
> FUCK Kaiju, kill em all
> Guy is basically the Toku equivalent of the punisher, except he fights with a knife

>>149850136
Just because you have a lack of imagination doesn't mean the rest of us do, anon. Besides, it doesn't matter who did something first. It matters who did it best. No one gets a shit about Hydrox cookies aside from Trivial Pursuit.

>>149850213
I think the best people to subvert the superhero genre are Japoids because they
1fundamentally misunderstand it
2disect it through a japanese lens.

Coincientally I think westoids would make the best isekai/magical girl/shonenshit/other anime deconstructions, if they stopped with the "muh politics" bullshit.

Critical role, animations showed me what I miss so fuckign much in Anime fantasy stories.

I'm kinda workshoping a golden/silver age style superhero team.
What's better, a shared origin event where all the characters get their powers from the same source or individual origins and the team don't meet up out of necessity?

>>149850345
Mix it up. Have like 3 of them have a shared origin and be the 'core' of the team. But since they are operating as a super team, they end up teaming up with other heroes that don't share their origin.

Solo heroes are unlikely to band up with solo heroes, because they already operate solo. But a team is likely to take on new members, because thats just expanding the team. Especially if having the same origin of their powers gives them a common weakness of some kind so they need people who don't have that problem to deal with certain enemies and issues.

>>149850324
The real takeaway here is that, every so often, you need an injection of new ideas from a new source. If you only operate within a bubble and recycle the same stock cliches over and over again, then >>149850136 becomes right and all you can do is decide whether to embrace or subvert those cliches in a limited number of possible patterns.

But bringing in ideas or interpretations from an outside source, like another culture, refreshes your stock of tropes and cliches and brings with it things that are cliche to THEM but new to YOU.

Just think about how superpowers work. The fact that Marvel and DC are both working with power sets and characters that are (with few exceptions) decades old means that the story space built around those powers is mostly played out. Japan, meanwhile, comes up with new powers and new power systems all the time. This isn't because Japanese media is "better", they have just been allowed to iterate and compete with new ideas instead of locking in with one set of answers and refusing to change for decades at a time.

>>149849429
I’m on a break so I’m adding this to the ghost world, feel free to tell if you like it or hate it:

The lands untouched by man, or that are nearly impossible to be defaced by civilization are some of the only methods to rewind back to as far as the beginning of humanity. The problem is that the eras meshed so much with one another that you have no guarantee of where, or rather when, you would arrive. Also, those are filled with the predators that feed on ghosts. So travelling the countryside is a dangerous prospect, and the ocean is nearly suicidal.

>>149846787 (OP)
No floating timelines. That's all I ask. I want to be able to map what happened when and what that lead to and floating timelines feel like a punishment for paying attention.

>>149850703
I think that if you are starting a new superhero setting now, the only way to get people invested is a promise that every story will have an ending. Heroes will age and, eventually, die. Or retire. Or pass on their mantle to a new hero. Every hero has to have a narrative endpoint that they are working towards that is the culmination of their arc.
Some heroes can stick around after their main story is over, but they are not main characters anymore and eventually they will stop showing up.

This means that, in every decade IRL, everyone has a mostly new stable of heroes to follow. And then those roll over into new heroes, and so on. Every generation of readers gets to have a set of heroes that is 'theirs'. Some lineups might be better than others, but I think this would make for better readership retention AND sales.

Like, whats my incentive to go back and buy older Superman comics if he's just doing the same shit as he is today? If the older comics are just better, whats my incentive to buy NEW superman comics?
Meanwhile, when I go back and buy the entire run of Million Arms Man from 10 years ago, its because Million Arms Man isn't an active hero anymore. He's not in competition with his present self, he is a character with a defined beginning, middle, and end with payoffs.

>>149850655
I like this, mostly because it means that ghosts are trapped in either cities or buildings. A specific building out in the middle of nowhere leaves no place for the ghost to go, they HAVE to stay haunting that house.

It also means that Ghosts that want to travel elsewhere can do so, but would require the help of the living to do it. They need a living person to carry them in some form from place to place, because travelling as a ghost is risky.

This creates an immediately obvious reason for a ghost detective to human a human assistant, who can be our POV character. The ghost needs the human to get around safely outside of a limited area, or sends the humans off to gather evidence to bring it back to the place where she can safely manifest and then she deduces the solution to the crime based on what clues they have found, a ghostly version of how Nero Wolfe mysteries work.

>>149846787 (OP)
>Shimmer Lily
>the Barbie of Superheros (lots of pink and glitter, blonde, energetic, takes photos with citizens)
>She’s a young adult. Basically an idol to people.
>History: She’s been a superhero since she was a kid. Essentially like a pink version of Word Girl where she is starkly stronger than people give her credit for. As she grew older, she’s became more internally cynical and worried, but now keeps this blonde bimbo facade because its easier for her to conceal her identity that way. She’s really more down to earth, almost tomboyish young woman who isn’t sure of her place. She’s had stalkers and muderers come after her and also gained unlikely friends

>Powers: Aside from typical Flying Brick powers like flight, speed and strength—she also has typical “girly” powers, like “Energy Sparkles”, Super Senses that can sense negativity, healing energy, can communicate with animals, and has accesories that can help her in fights, like gloves that can bind people Syndrome Style, a tiara that can help her breath in space and underwater, etc

>Tone: she ultimately clashes with the more serious world she’s in, to the point that even some heroes don’t really take her seriously. Which is their mistake, since she’s one of the strongest heroes in the planet.

Villains: I got two.
>Intruder: Once introducing himself as a superhero called The Chameleon, Stanford Herschel revealed his true colors when he accidentally revealed how he knew where Shimmer Lily lived. Since then, after getting ostracized from the superhero community for Stalking not just Glimmer Lily, but also another respected superheroine called Silver Victory and her young son. He is a shapeshifter who can appear as any monster, thing, or person he touches. And he can’t be killed unless you destroy him in a cellular level. One of the most notable incidenta is when he captured Glimmer Lily’s brother and almost killed him.
(1/2)

>>149850998
>>149850998
second villain:

Frost Bite:
>Micheal Lawrence is ultimately a tragic villain. He was actually a school mate of Shimmer Lily, although she barely remembered him. He signed up to an experimental program as a way to pay for his father’s debt. What happened next was him transforming at night into a monster with ice powers. He absorbes heat to touch, has Ice Breath and can freeze and make Ice constructs, but he’s mindless and can be tricked. When he discovered what happens to him, he reaches out to other heroes and and the facility, but gets caged instead. The facility, Adonis, is actually using his transformed form to take down competitors and promote their own hero, Apollo.

Speaking of, I might have another villain:

Apollo:
>First appearing as a friend and mentor, Apollo is sort of a rival to Shimmer Lilly, making cool blasts and having general light themed powers that complement his good looks. However, when he starts mentoring Shimmer Lily, he reveals a misanthropic, near nihilistic side to himself. A very “do as thou wilt” view of Nihilism. He is a test tube baby of the Adonis company who want to replace and gain fortune from created monsters. But bite off more than they can choose when Frost Bite becomes more than they can handle. He urges Shimmer Lily to kill Frost Bite, and succeeds, but ultimately loses his reputation because of it and spirals out of control when other heroes side with Shimmer Lily. Gets killed accidentally trying to beaf down other heroes as Frost Bite Revives and becomes more unstable.

>Frost Bite ends up being Glimmer’s biggest regret, as he hates her for killing him. There might be reconciliation. But it will be tough

>>149848930
>Eurocentric story
>THERE IS STILL A NOG
HOLY DEI BATMAN
>EU but federated
JUST HAVE IT TAKE PLACE IN AMERICA THEN YOU RETARD
>American and canada one entity
>KILL YOURSELF

>>149849734
>muh murica bad
I WILL RAPE YOUR WHOLE FAMILY

>muh demons and satanist witches good
>NEVER COME TO THE US YOU FAGGOT, I WILL FIND YOU

>>149847896
The story would first follow the nightwing analog after the death of his mentor and taking up the mantle. He tries to got to Super-expy for help but gets at the wrong time and finds out about the drinking, he thinks he's just have a hard week but learns that he's been like this for nearly 2 years. The story would then sort of ferry from hero to hero - a goes to b, b takes us to c, c shows us d, etc -as we learn there problems and their coping mechanisms. One hero is actually fairly racist, the other has a sex addiction, a third has gotten ptsd from being a hero but is still fighting. The first arc is showing us the break downs and troubles of everyone.
Second arc will have the cracks show to those close to the heroes and nightwing try and help everyone. Theres a scene where Supey breaks down crying while drunk in front of his arch villian about how he HAS to save everyone, he has to he's the most powerful.

The third arc is where the fixing starts. Some monsters from another dimension invade and the heroes are finally able to let loose and kill the creatures. They also have a weird affect where they inflame the heroes emotions and effectively act as physical representations of their problems. They win the war but they feel so empty afterward that all of them start seeking ways for help. Each heroes does something different but each either let's out their grievances, gets therapy, or rely on other people/heroes for help.

>>149846787 (OP)
>Who are they?
Luke Snyder: A NEET/manchild whose personality flaws inadvertently cause a megacorporation to publicly execute his father. Forced to work for the same corporation to repay his father’s debts, he becomes a cyberpunk-style enforcer—sabotaging rival franchises, threatening actors, and stealing projects. Along the way, he masters mystical martial arts and eventually seizes the corporation he once served, harnessing the "power of capitalism" to become the absolute ruler of the USA.

>What are their powers?
Luke has cybernetic enhancements that, due to an effect called Ghostpunk (a magical "phantom limb" phenomenon), far exceed their intended potential. In Shingo, Japan, he learns mystical martial arts capable of injuring opponents through coverings (e.g., armor or barriers). By the story’s end, he wields the "power of capitalism"—not just wealth, but (thanks to Ghostpunk) literal lightning-based abilities.

>What makes them special/fun to read? (No generic flying bricks here!)
The story is an absurdist comedy where megacorporations weaponize entertainment as social control, satirizing toxic behaviors in both consumers and corporations.

>What are their defining themes?
Luke’s arc explores how his attitude shifts as he realizes the harm caused by his employer’s (and his own) actions—even to strangers.

>>149846787 (OP)
>>149851760
>Bonus round: are there any 'rules' that we should establish for such a setting that all characters in it are required to follow?

Ghostpunk Mechanic - An extreme evolution of phantom limb syndrome that allows users to forcibly integrate technology as natural extensions of their bodies.

Willpower Reality Warping - The fundamental force behind Ghostpunk that also creates the "Power of Capitalism." This ability lets users bend reality to their advantage. In later arcs, certain characters can invert rigid power systems - for example, transforming the Power of Capitalism into the Power of Communism, which then reacts with its counterpart like matter meeting antimatter.

Additional Worldbuilding Elements:

Lesser Deities - Feed on war and death to sustain themselves

The Creator God - Grants D&D-style divine magic but is imperfect and mutable, having created existence with flexible rules

Postmortem Satan - After dying in-story, his legacy allows a corruption mechanic where individuals can:

First achieve sainthood

Then become corrupted

Finally transform into new Antichrist candidates to replace him

Nuclear Empowerment - Radiation grants classic comic book superpowers

European Reality Collapse - The EU's corrupted reality transformed most of Europe into a Minecraft-inspired isekai dimension featuring, founding new minerals, and creating new technologies

African Technological Revolution - An Elon Musk parody discovered symbiote-like aliens in space and used their technology to turn Uganda into a Wakanda-like.

I've tried making my own universe multiple times but every time I do it just ended up being some flavor of Astro City

>>149846787 (OP)
>Pretend that we are coming up with a new superhero setting.
Well then we wouldn't be pretending, would we?

Is Marvel/DC alternative universe sloppa allowed or only original sloppa?

Lately I've been dreaming about a Sorcerer Supreme type/detective noir guy who was magically cloned a dozen times at birth and each of his clones was raised to master different arts of magic around the world
Eventually they all get brought back into a singular fold but as a result of living so many lives he loses most of his non-magic memories and his personality becomes a sum of his parts, and now he has to juggle all these relationships and promises and whatever else that his previous selves got up to
He'd be the magic guy on the team of dieselpunk/noir superheroes along with the Sandman/Spirit knockoff who runs his city's night life, the Superman/Iron Giant knockoff with mild Purple Man powers, and Hank Pym doing every 50s sci-fi plot ever
>>149853767
Go for it, who cares

>>149849429
>>149849517
>>149850655
>>149850875
I really like where this is going

>>149846787 (OP)
Asian-american ocular laser man: An everyman, ordinary architecture student who, during corrective eye surgery, gained the ability to shoot lasers of various wavelengths from his eyes. The lasers peak around 300 mW, and they can only be used for a few seconds at a time. Later he was involved in investigating the shadowy cabal of ophthalmologists responsible for his aberration.

>>149846787 (OP)
Sounds cool

>>149847785
Beat me to it. It's been done to death. At this point a good kind wholesome superman is the subversive one.

>>149855929
Maybe thats the real punk rock

>>149846787 (OP)
Cold-Shock, a human with powers capable of controlling and transforming into ice. Essentially, he has abilities similar to Iceman: he can turn his body entirely into ice, form ice constructs, shape-shift, increase his size, create ice clones, possess elemental immortality, regenerate from any mass of ice in the cosmos, and freeze anything in his line of sight to absolute zero.
On top of all this, he also possesses the power to freeze—or stop—concepts, processes, actions, thoughts, etc.
as instead of stopping a blow by freezing its molecules, he stops the concept of movement of the blow, stopping a person's time to leave them immobile in that space-time, their thoughts or their age to make them immortal, etc.
Basically a limited reality warper with an ice theme
His biggest enemy would be his brother, the Burning Devil, who has similar powers but with a fire theme and the ability to accelerate processes or concepts. Completely amoral and dangerous, he exploits his powers to break every rule that might exist.
But eventually, he loses his memory (intentionally or accidentally), and his mind and body revert to those of a 15-year-old teenager. Is he still responsible for all the rapes, murders, and tortures he committed as his “games” over the years, or is this a new beginning for him, free from the sins of the past? Would the heroes and villains he tortured beyond human comprehension seek revenge against this pure and vulnerable version? Would his brother, Cold-Shock, protect him and teach him to become a better person who does good, or kill him while he is still learning to control his powers, in case the Burning Devil might ever return?

>>149846787 (OP)
All of the superheroes dress like Luchadores. The lesser supervillains sell tickets to their fights at a markup.

>>149852053
Astro City is what I would deliberately shoot for if I had any talent

Deeplock is a half-human half-fishlike-monster-thing who was once a petty criminal, transformed after reading the tomes of an eldritch elder god... However as it turns out this eldritch god not only is all-powerful but has a strange sense of justice and transformed him into a monster because they knew he wanted to use the ancient tome for selfish purposes and turned him into it's thrall on Earth.
Now forced to repent under his new God, he must prove himself worthy of redemption by working as the eldritch hero Deeplock, using his strange new biology to help others in hopes of regaining his humanity some day, unaware that he is simply a puppet for a twisted god who is not willing to let go of his new toy and simply wants to see evil squirm

>>149856367
What specific abilities does this aquatic biology grant to Deeplock? How does the eldritch god communicate with Deeplock? Is it through dreams or nature?

>>149856546
>What specific abilities does this aquatic biology grant to Deeplock?
I assume he has gills and probably creepy tentacles of some sort? Alternatively think of him as a swiss army knife of underwater creepyness, he could be like old school Namor who just had powers of sea creatures whenever he needed them
>How does the eldritch god communicate with Deeplock? Is it through dreams or nature?
Whatever's creepier I guess.

>>149856799
sounds great. I imagine him transforming into monstrous versions of sea creatures like octopuses, sharks, or eels. A bit like in Immortal Hulk.
>Whatever's creepier I guess.
I like to imagine that the messages are sent by seaweed or the blood of aquatic animals being preyed upon by others.

>>149849429
To expand on Annabelle, the idea that I had immediately in mind was that the reason that she became a ghost detective is because while she was alive she used to read a lot of detective novels while she was alive. While amongst the living she used to have a frail body and was always bedridden, and the precious few years that she had were spent at home reading her books and imagining going on adventures herself. Now as a ghost she has nothing to fear but the predators that lurk in the underworld, as well as the soldiers from the many city-states.

>>149849517
I was thinking amongst the major city-states that exist in this setting, from historical places that reached their peak and attained the title of “heaven”, one would be the Roman Empire. It would be one of the major factions.

Many other factions also achieved notoriety, but they rose up in infamy instead, and some of the most diabolical were affected by the current public perception as well as their advanced (at the time) technology… like the Third Reich and the Soviet Union.


Ghosts can’t die normally (with the exception of predators and other methods), but they can still suffer and regenerate from most wounds. The Germans and Russians have developed new sophisticated methods to pressure people into joining their armies in a mad quest for conquest of the afterlife.

>>149850113
>>149847882
This setting is promising, but a lot is gonna have to be established. Maybe there's a faction that tries to keep order. Maybe there's some level of regulation, where powers are inhibited until you're old enough to use them properly.

I had an idea for a webcomic. Basically it's a semi-parody of the "barely disguised fetish" trope. Every supervillain has some fetish themed gimmick or power, and the hero is a cute twink. Obviously this idea is for me and hopefully some readers to whack off to, but also to be enjoyed just for being an absurdist parody.

>>149846787 (OP)
Can we include some public domain characters?

>>149856916
I see it more like parts of him turn, like his arm spurts a shitton of tentacles to grab an enemy or something
The important part is that despite his horror theming he is firmly in the side of good

>>149857986
Are you aware of Rosengarten Saga? It operates on a very similar logic to what you describe.

>>149859066
I'll check it out, if only to rip it off.

>>149859082
Its starts off crazy, but it really explodes in quality once it starts introducing the rest of the cast. If you are not hooked by the time you get to the end of the 'money course', its probably not for you. But if its your jam, there's nothing else like it.

>>149859200
I already see from that art that my vision is very different. My idea can safely exist in its own niche.

>>149846787 (OP)
All I want is more kamen rider esque heroes, transformations and cool power ups

>>149846787 (OP)
I'm not gonna give you my millonaire superhero idea, marvel

>>149846787 (OP)
I've once had the idea of a semi parody but sometimes serious sorta mockumentary series focusing on superheroes and supervillains plus random civilians that may be recurring, a bit like say Surfs Up mixed with the Incredibles DVD tapes My main ideas were focusing on a sort of Aquaman/Namor character esque character but being more of an inhuman deep one Fishman who isn't overtly concerned with surface crimes unless it affects the ocean since he was raised in an aquarium with his adopted family being marine biologists and once killed another heroes arch enemy by mistake cause he didn't realise he wasn't superhuman alongside other issues he had with the hero team leading him getting booted.

A burnt out superhero who just goes on a rant about civilian girlfriends being the worst essentially just ranting about Amber types or Mary Jane in the Insomniac game who he feels have skewed priorities or lack empathy and why he's a hero who focused not on fighting bad guys but relief aid, saving lives and disaster prevention.

A career criminal named Plasma Orb who's head is a plasma orb just talking about it like a 9 to 5 job, the rookie mistakes of supervillains and how he's still wanting to officially enter a rogues gallery since he's been stuck facing hero to hero with nothing sticking since it'd reflect better if he's linked with a specific hero for the villain business.

Last idea was a curvy civilian girl who the interviewer's initially think is a degenerate superheroine having sex with supervillains thinking they can use it to flame a scandal that was popping up regarding a superhero marrying a villainess recently but end up realising it's just a pretty ordinary if perverted woman with slight durability that just owns a homemade costume and hits up supervillains cause it's her kink with her just going full frontal about who she's slept with, how she prepares for it and is utterly unashamed about it.

>>149846799
Please check out Marshal Law.

>>149853219
Holy fuck. Every time someone posts one of these pages it's always fucking incredible. Truly the lost art form of comics.

>>149859200
Also, this makes the second time recently that I get recommended a fetish manga on here.

>>149860288
My favorite part is that most of his powers are just caused by different rays from his belt, but sometimes things just happen for no reason.

If Stardust doesn't just straight-up murder someone, he'll give them some random punishment.Like in issue 16 where he dropped a guy on his own private island, lifted the island into the air, flipped it upside down with him still on it, then some odd octopus creature attacks him. It is the first and only time it's ever shown and its existence is completely unexplained.

>>149860288
You've seen nothing yet.

>>149860266
Not going to lie, this shit looks fucking badass

>>149860266
The marvel pastiche being a bunch of neurotics was funny.

>>149858003
You mean these guys?
https://pdsh.fandom.com/wiki/Public_Domain_Super_Heroes
https://comicbookplus.com/

>>149861378
I think they would look better without the unrealistic clingy spandex thing.

>>149861378
>V-Man and the V-Boys
Something tells me they weren't V for long lol.

>>149860266
What does Tekken have to do with capeshit?

My idea is a Marvel AU, but that is specifically against the thread's rules so...

>>149858003
>>149861378
What's a public domain?

>>149846787 (OP)
I had an idea for a comedy about how the secret identities of a super hero and his female nemesis are happily married to each other. The aspects their heroic and villainous personas hate about each other are what their civilian personalities like about one another.

The husband is a Superman homage with all of his powers from the silver age. However, he's horrible at using anything other than flying, super strength and speed. As a result, he's very critical of himself since he knows he could be doing better for the people if he actually had a handle on all of his crazy ass abilities. When off duty, he's a mild mannered high school teacher who's a bit of a ditz but means well. He's very good with emotional problems but bad at book learning. Very high WIS but low INT.

The wife is a master thief from a lineage of women criminals. She uses gadgets, athletics and cunning to beat the odds and steal shit. The men who marry into her family have a nasty habit of dying. But since her husband's imperviousness keeps him alive, something he writes off as dumb luck, she's super protective of him. While she's very smart, she has a nasty habit of overthinking things or getting hung up on the small details of her plan. Ironically, her husband sometimes aids in her scheming when he unknowingly gives her advice to cheer her up.

They go through the standard rigamarole or married life and comic shenanigans but things start to get complicated when the two ponder having a kid.

>>149862494
The "public domain" refers to creative works (like books, music, art, etc.) that are not protected by copyright and can be freely used, copied, or adapted by anyone. This happens when the copyright term expires or if the work was created without copyright protection in the first place.

>>149857777
>To expand on Annabelle, the idea that I had immediately in mind was that the reason that she became a ghost detective is because while she was alive she used to read a lot of detective novels while she was alive. While amongst the living she used to have a frail body and was always bedridden, and the precious few years that she had were spent at home reading her books and imagining going on adventures herself. Now as a ghost she has nothing to fear but the predators that lurk in the underworld, as well as the soldiers from the many city-states.

I would add one detail to her backstory: in the past she teamed up with an actual detective who filled in the missing gaps in her knowledge of forensics. This living detective was her first human companion, and between his skills (and connection to, you know, a real police department that could make arrests) and her ability to do ghost shit they solved a LOT of crimes. Her love of mystery novels and adventure might be why she is in this game, but working cases with this guy is why she's good at it.
He's dead now. He's been dead for a long time. Maybe he died on a case, maybe it was just normal causes. Either way, he's not a 'lucid dreamer', he's just a normal dead spirit trapped in their looping memories. Annabelle visits him sometimes, when she is sad or lonely, and tries to break him out of his loop but she hasn't managed it yet.
Its hard, waking the dead.

>>149846918
Really good, like insanely I think it would work better as a movie series or even a cartoon, someone needs to draw this

>>149848930
This somehow feels obnoxiously woke and yet conservatively out of touch at the same time

>>149862998
Movie series runs into the human actor problem, and longer movie runtimes want big epic plots not episodic comedic ones, but a cartoon of some kind with 1-2 seasons so you have time for episodic plots but also can have a defined satisfying ending would probably be the ideal.
Its kind of unfortunate how on some level we realize that modern comics would never actually make a story like this. Its just not the kind of story they would ever tell.

>>149851389
The first two acts are good but the ending falls flat, the story is about inner turmoil so to end it with “and then the generic no name villains came and the heroes punched away their problems without having to actually reflect” feels cheap- I like this anons ending instead
>>149847896

Feels real and earned and allows you to progress through the story naturally, you can fit the big bad aliens story in there somewhere I think, but that one really emphasizes the theme of your work-…unless I’m missing the point hehe

>>149850998
>>149851343
Can you elaborate on the cynical and worried part of her character

>>149856367
Really good straight to the point clever charming 10/10

>>149863152
Oh I was thinking of an animated film like megamind of some sort, and yes subconsciously the comic industry would just reject something this creative unless it were full indie self funded, this is something you’d see sooner in a manga- but alas, it’s great either way

>>149848930
This kind of feels like it could be progressive enough for zoomers to like it but at the same time my inner conservative doesn't want to track you down and kill you for it. Good job.

>>149847896
>>149863175

The spiderman expy, in the middle of a big donation drive, comes to the defense of the female super-soldier that everyone calls a whore and goes on a furious tirade about how she's ten times the hero that he is because he's stuck here doing commericals for cereal and shes out there saving lives EVERY DAY. He burns a lot of bridges doing that, his sponsorship deals suddenly dry up, and it feels like he's about to hit rock bottom now...

Except that people DO start cutting the female hero more slack. And the nightwing expy with with his batman-money cuts him a check to finance him so he no longer needs to do sponsorships at all. A life changing amount of money for spiderman, a drop in the bucket for nightwing's inheritance.

Spiderman guy starts doing patrols helping Nightwing in his home turf as thanks, and tries to also help out the superman expy as well but finds that he cant cut it in superman's fights. He can pull civilians to safety but he's just not strong enough to change the outcome of a superman fight, and very nearly because a casualty in the crossfire of a powerful superfight...
Until the supersoldier woman saves him. She saw what he was doing on the news, realized he was out of his league (you've been doing commercials too long, you've gotten rusty) and she owed him one.
Spiderman might not be able to swing the outcome of a superman fight, but the female supersoldier CAN. She intervenes and buys the superman some breathing room, and together they take down the villain while Spiderman manages damage control. And superman gets his first taste of not all of the responsibility being on his shoulders all the time.

They don't become the justice leage-esq team that day. That happens months later. But that was the moment that things started getting better.

Not my original idea, but I think that it would be worth salvaging what they were clearly setting up for the Superian in the live action The Tick, because that seems like a genuinely good setup for a hero. The show was cancelled, but the idea was solid.

In short, the superman character was not sent here as a baby. He was sent here as an adult. He is not the last of his people, he just tells us that after he gets out so he doesn't have to talk about his real past.
Because the reality of the situation is that he was a criminal on his home world. Everyone on his planet is as strong as he is, which makes them very hard to kill, so what they do instead if lock them in a prison capsule made of a material that dampens their powers so they cant break out, and then fires them into deep space.

He spend CENTURIES trapped in that prison capsule. At first raging to get out, and then depressed and wanting to die, and then eventually coming to reflect on his actions and accept that he had no one to blame for this situation but himself, he deserves this punishment, and wishes he had another chance to make things right...

And that's when his capsule crashes into Earth and breaks open, freeing him.

So he is now doing everything in his power to be a moral paragon, because he's trying to make up for his past sins. This doesn't come naturally to him, its all an act, but he is genuinely TRYING to be better and this is how he thinks that works.

And the technology of his super-prison capsule is his kryptonite, which can't kill him but CAN drastically weaken him.

>>149862960
Oooh I love this!
I like to think that periodically the detective can break out of the loop due to some inconsistencies between his memories and the ghost world. Like he always knew Annabelle as a ghost, but in the afterlife they can physically touch each other and it’s enough just to shake him out of the trance for a few seconds.

Here’s a concept that I’ve taken from my understanding of Wraith: The Oblivion. The goal of all ghosts is to pass on into the next afterlife, since ghost world is kind of like Limbo. If you’re not killed by the predators, or degenerate into a wraith-like monster, eventually all souls would logically pass on. Time is a non-factor. The thing is lucid souls have an enormously hard time moving on because they are awake, and thus can make new bonds. New attachments. New regrets. Leaders of the “heavens” and “hells” are assuredly lucid and tries their hardest to have people not ascend to their new afterlife to keep power and control.

I like expanding the ghost world so much, but I feel that there’s a danger of neglecting the real world and the detective aspect of the story in favour of adventure.

>>149861378
There are a few that aren't there. Personally I'd like to make a savage land meets wakanda setting where we can have some sexy jungle girls in this setting.

>>149863588
>I like expanding the ghost world so much, but I feel that there’s a danger of neglecting the real world and the detective aspect of the story in favour of adventure.

The thing is, the actual mystery solving with ghost powers part sort of fills in itself. We know stories like that, we know how to write those.
Even if the majority of the ghost world lore isn't known to the readers for a long, long time because it usually isn't "important" to the mystery plots, you'd still want to know how it works as an author so that you can keep the rules consistent over time.
Then you just have to come up with excuses for Annabelle to visit ghost world. Maybe she is stuck on a case and goes to visit the detective for advice/comfort, and either one of his lucid moments or watching the memory of an old case play out helps her piece things together. Maybe she wants to find the victim of a recent murder, but the victim is 'lucid' and has fallen in with one of the afterlife civilizations as a new recruit so she has to go into their territory, or the victim's ghost is in a bad place and at risk of getting eaten by predators. Maybe the murderer in a series of mysterious deaths is a legit wraith or demon and thats why they have been so hard to solve.
Or, maybe, her current human companion has a loved one they want to make contact with, and Annabelle tries to find them in the afterlife for them to tell them how they are doing.

You can bring these things up, but yes its important not to focus on them too heavily in the story lest it stop being a detective narrative.

>>149863671
Thanks a lot. That’s a great help. I’m actually eager to get working on this after my day job is over… in four and a half hours…

>>149863710
If you are serious about doing this, a word of advice: making a comic is hard, because you need not just writing but a very dedicated artist to make enough panels for even a single issue. Its not impossible, but it is an uphill battle especially without financing and infrastructure.

That said, nothing about the story you have in mind could not work as prose. You could write the story, and then pair it with illustrations. This has the benefit that you can write the story FIRST and then if you are ready for publication seek or make illustrations for key moments each chapter later. As opposed to comics, where you need quite a lot of art even just to get started and you can end up spending or working a lot on art and then realize in the middle that you can't finish it for whatever reason.

>>149863768
not that anon. But I think i'll make mine a novel with a few illustrations, and if it's a big enough hit then I'll commission someone to make a comic.

>>149863797
It does seem to be the happy medium, IMO.
For the record, if you are not Annabell-anon which story seed is yours?

>>149863148
>>149863412

>>149863768
I was actually thinking of the latter
And I am usually semi-serious. Wrote a lot of story concepts over the years. Sometimes a few pages. Even rarer a whole chapter. I mostly derive joy from creating and imagining.

Sometimes I reuse my ideas for /tg/ games.
Man now I’m remembering the time I wanted to be a mangaka. All those hours spent concocting stories, and practicing drawing, but I never put my 110%. Eventually I just stopped.

>>149863867
Considering you mentioned Wraith: The Oblivion as an inspiration, I figured you were a fellow fa/tg/uy.
Best advice I can give is that prose is easier to get into, and that while coming up with story concepts is fun you owe it to yourself to try fleshing at least one of them out into a full story. You don't need to aim for a novel right off the bat, start with a short story or two. Annabelle is a great vehicle for this, because her stories (being mysteries) inherently lend themselves to episodic content so you can do her as a series of short stories and then work them into a compilation if you make enough of them.

Best advice for writing prose is just to write a little each day. If you are on a roll, write as many pages as you want. But if you can't bring yourself to write much... just write a paragraph even if you know you will delete it later. Clearing the hurdle of the habit of writing is the biggest jump to clear, and if you can make that jump then you WILL write and finish a story.

Whether thats a good story or not you wrote is a different matter, but a bad story thats been finished is worth a hundred stories you thought about but never told.

>>149846819
What if all the superheroes are bad, and normal people are good? Both are sadists though.

>>149863830
I just got here.

>>149862494
>>149862724
https://pdsh.fandom.com/wiki/Public_Domain_Super_Heroes

>>149864033
You know what, for the last 2-3 years I’ve set myself a goal to be better than the previous year and accomplish things that I would have never done before.

I’m adding that to the list. Not sure if it’ll be about Annabelle, but I want to work on myself and keep improving

A society that have outgrown Superheroes, having adapted to the weird stuff.

>>149864149
Thats a good goal, anon.

bump

Nice to see cool threads like this. It reminds me that /co/ isn't just for lolicons.

>>149865031
Its up to us to be better than the bot posts.

Here is my idea, feel free to laugh:

Setting:

In 1970s the US government acquired a piece of alien technology. They decided to assign a large group of scientists to study the alien tech, and maybe create a weapon that can end a war before it even started, in case the cold war ever became hot.

The experiment went wrong and the world changed afterward. People born across the world started to develop super powers. The closer their proximity to the event, the greater the possibility to be born with a power. People usually awaken their abilities by their early teens (13-14).

I aim not to powerscale too hard, so heroes and villains in this universe can't just fart a nuclear bomb, but street/city/army level villains do happen. There is, however exception to the rule.

Back when there weren't many superheroes it was easier to uphold a consistent idea of what a hero is supposed to be. You know, save people, inspire others etc... But the more common abilities became, the harder it was to keep things consistent or the way they were. Not only that but companies and ideological groups realized that there is big money and fame in these heroes.

Politicians, companies religious and ideological and activist groups started to fund and pay heroes to stand with them. At first there was a strong pushback, but the resistance got worn off with time. One by one, many heroes pledged themselves to these groups, and it became a norm. Heroes who went solo without anyone backing them, faced a lot of difficulties.
>They were self funded, and had to pay for everything from their own pocket.
>They needed a source of income because heroing didn't pay.
>There was no insurance for them if they caused damage
And these were only financial difficulties.
>Heroes who didn't choose a side were shunned as fence siters/spineless/etc. You know, the works.
>Sponsored/backed heroes often refuse to work with them.
>They are often "mistaken" for villains/terrorists.

1/?

>>149865173
>In 1970s the US government acquired a piece of alien technology. They decided to assign a large group of scientists to study the alien tech, and maybe create a weapon that can end a war before it even started, in case the cold war ever became hot.

1970s is just the right time period to say that we found it on the moon. Maybe thats what the space race was about from the start, maybe we didn't know that shit was up there until after we got to the moon for the first time and them nabbed it on a future mission without the Russians ever knowing it was there.

>>149863558
That’s really dope

>>149865173
Hero culture after this became a downward spiral.

>Rightoid aligned heroes refusing to save certain places after looking up the racial demographics of the place.
>Leftoid heroes caring more about the social messaging and activism than actually beign good heroes.
>Heroes flaming each other on social media like some cringe celebrities.
>Heroes using excessive force on/ not rescuing civilians who belong to their ideological and political opponents.
>People treating hero work, not as a commitment but as a calling, but as a gig to get rich or famous.


In this shitshow of a world, a lone multibillionare, Wilson Walker stepped up, and estabilished an independent hero agency, "withouth the weird shit", "without the political and ideological baggage", "bringing back the old values of the heroes of the golden age". His secret Alter Ego, the Lovecraftian being the first of the heroes to walk the halls of this "Justice Union". This marked a new age for independent heroes, and this is where the story takes place.

I am not sure if I want a novel or a comic or a game yet, but it would follow separate stories of young heroes who joined this agency.

>The redeemer: Child/Clone of the most dangerous villain in history, will this kid prove that nurture is the key, or is the lession of the story that people can't escape their nature?

>The aspirant: This young hero accidentally inherits the Lovecraftian's powers, and with it, a choice. Will the young teen inherit The Lovecraftians legacy or tear it all down?

(Note these two aren't the names of the heroes, just a way I refer to them. I kept it gender neutral because if I ever make a game, you can choose whether you want them to be male or female. If anyone wishes to add in more hero ideas I would be glad to listen.)
If this ends up being a game, you'll only be able to choose the gender of the character, their races are set in stone, <the redeemer> is white and <the aspirant> is black.

2/2 (for now)

>>149865380
Yup, that is the idea. I'm actually glad you caught it.

Plus putting it into the 70's means there was still enough time for socirety to build up a hero culture without me needing to rewrite the entire history of Earth with superheroes in mind.

>>149865173
>>149865643
It feels like this setting would be in near-constant peril of devolving into civil unrest or even civil war. If a prominant leftist hero and a prominent rightwing hero end up having a punchout fight in the middle of the street and tearing through some buildings, thats going to be a potential spark in the powderkeg no matter how it ends. Especially if both sides already have an established history of refusing to save lives that fall outside of their political tribe.

If feels like the biggest threat here isn't supervillians, its a Civil War with Supers.

>>149846787 (OP)
only have a villain idea that I posted on /tg/ years ago

the loli con ( con as in con artist) basically a sexy cat burglar that stole a gem that held the goddess of girls and she accidentally freed her so as thanks she gave her a blessing that turned her back into a child but anyone whose a biological parent will believe she their own daughter and will do absolutely anything for her so she uses this to steal from rich people or get people to steal for her.

outside of the name she is never made to be lewd

>>149865737
>It feels like this setting would be in near-constant peril of devolving into civil unrest or even civil war.

That is mostly where corporate lobbying, media and other powerful entities come into play. These heroes are basically corporate/party affiliated. They are on a short leash. You can't just go around starting a fight with heroes of the other side. You represent your side if you make them look bad, you are gone and denounced. Afflicting cruelties on random civilians however... Also, if something rather bad happens, there will be protests but that's the furthest people are willing to go.

Also, keep it in mind, the strongest hero, The Lovecraftian is neutral. Most heroes don1t really want to fuck with The Lovecraftian.

bump

>>149865895
What are the Lovecraftian's powers that makes him such a threat?

>>149866337
His power is distorting, twisting and changing reality, hence the name. While the extents to this have it's limits, let's just say it's a good thing he believes in old school hero values.

>If he can just do all this where are the stakes?
The Lovecraftian can't and won't be everywhere. Also, this is not public knowledge but his powers are declining.

>>149862623
I like it, anon.

>>149866556
Given that his power is related to warping reality, does he have some kind of connection to the alien artifact that gave everyone their powers? Or is that just random?

>>149862623
Just to confirm, are they AWARE that they are supers on opposite sides of the legal line? Or is that a secret that they are successfully keeping from each other?
Trying to get a sense of where on the "Mr and Ms Smith" spectrum we are.

>>149866997
Oh, absolutely, it is all interconnected, it doesn't come directly from the artifact, per se, but it is closely related to it. I just didn't want to infodump everything because people usually get tired of dry loredumps really quick. Also, i am limited by the 2000 letters I can use.

>>149867142
I know your pain, anon. I, too, have mountains of autistic worldbuilding and no reasonable way to dump it on people.
It's why I run RPGs.

>>149867249
The thing I'm mostly affraid of is that I want the characters who the story follows to all have different backgrounds but I'm 90% sure that both sides of the political spectrum will scream at me for it, which, considering the story and the setting is a bit ironic.

If you have any good superhero ideas too, anon, I would like to hear them since you read all the crap I shared.

Batman brave and the bold ( or silver age of comics) where older heroes train new heroes to take over and maybe villains doing the same

>>149862623
as a comedy, this would work.

>>149846787 (OP)
An idea of a superhero team called "The Action Men" who once were the greatest, now the worst after a superman parody version was killed in the 80s and his son take over as the original members retired with resulting poor. It will be something similar to The Venture Bros but superheroes.

>>149867028
No. Both sides are completely unaware of the other's super career. The secret never gets out and ironically, they have the healthiest relationship out of all their other super powered peers.

>>149867374
> rightwing hero: Boundary: a speedster hero that patrols the southern border of the US and grabs illegal immigrants trying to cross. He frequently is seen together with a Mexican hero from the other side of the border who can turning into a living bolt of lightning to zip between places named El Estampido. Estampido is faster, but can't carry anything with him in lightning form other than what he is wearing. Estampido and Boundary keep each other honest. Estampido also fights crime in Mexico, but Boundary most just is on border patrol duty because thats what he is paid for.

> leftwing hero: Merci: a french canadian born man who was poached to come to the US to work as a hero, he has the strongest healing powers in the world. If someone isn't literally dead, Merci can bring them back to life. However, Merci has NO OTHER POWERS, which means that he has to stay away from the fighting outside of tightly controlled photo ops. The leftwing party uses him as a publicity machine, renting him out to heal the poor and the sick and the infirm in photo ops, but also anyone who can pay the obscene prices for his time. Merci is 100% aware of how extremely valuable he is, and is kind of a douchebag when not on camera.

>>149867374
>>149868156

> Homerun: A woman with the mysterious power that she always hits home runs. Which sounds mostly just like cheating at baseball, but she *always* hits home runs. Always. Regardless of circumstances. What this means, in practice, is that so long as she is holding a baseball bat she can hit anything she wants out of the air, and anything she hits WILL travel through the shortest path to pass over the nearest baseball field, regardless of direction or distance. Yes, she can hit bullets out of the air. But if she hits a *person* with a baseball bat, guess what? They get thrown into the air and are tossed in the direction of the nearest baseball field. She can likewise clear rubble from a disaster site the same way. Its a very stupid, but surprisingly useful, power as long as you have the support crews at the nearest diamond ready to receive what is sent. Usually involving a giant net
> She doesn't even like baseball

> Executor: A mind control type hero who works based on contracts. He can enforce anything that two parties agree to, whether that be a complex legal document or a verbal agreement or a handshake, and leave all parties involved literally unable to act otherwise. This lasts as long as the contract remains in effect, which could theoretically be FOREVER if you are not careful. Executor is powerless to negate a contract once it has been activated, its out of his hands once he has declared it valid.
> People keep trying to come up with way to use him to "improve society" with ever more convoluted contracts to force people into that will make them 'better citizens' or 'prevent corruption', which gets really socially uncomfortable real fast. He is basically an authoritarian's wet dream. Thankfully, he genuinely seems to be a nice guy and tries to make sure that people don't commit to contracts they don't understand and isn't comfortable with how other people try to bend him into a political tool. But that doesn't mean he can't be coerced.

>>149868156
>>149868292
These are surprisingly creative! I REALLY like the first two, they would actually fit into the setting. Homerun's and Executor's abilities are a bit abstract, but they COULD technically work. Executor would be exploited as fuck though.

>>149858003
One of the most important figures in my setting is pretty obviously inspired by Stardust.

>>149869287
And, come to think of it, one of my key protagonists is a culmination of the [Black] Fury legacy.

Have a couple of characters from various TRPG games and projects that never came to be.

Arizona Ranger- 300y old American super soldier physically in his 60s, but actually at peak human senses, skills, and strength along with being one of the best sharpshooters in the world. Got his powers from an explosion caused by outlaws in a mine shaft that contained MacGuffium, making him one of the world's first (publically known) super beings. Former Confederate, sexist, POS, etc. but has lived through so many moments in history or caused them that he has become a curmudgeonly Steve Rogers, inspiring people to change for the better.

Apex- Former hero now trainer for the next generations with the ability to channel various animals, varying from quirks of the species to full on Were-beast transformation, at the expense of losing control the deeper he goes, having to wear a helmet housing various drugs to keep him calm, leading to him often relying on gadgets or being the man in the chair to avoid going to far.

Captain Cheer- Childhood sweetheart to Apex that has a voice which at specific tones or inflections can influence beings, changing moods, sending into fight or flight, or even providing seconds winds from a rousing speech. Has been known to talk so much shit in combat she can make people give up on the spot from sheer disheartening.

The Vitruvian- Possibly the first being to be changed by MacGuffium. Most likely was various beings in mythology & history, such as Gilgamesh, Zeus, Alexander The Great, etc. Immortal on some level, he is one of the most dangerous villains on the planet, having tried multiple times in history to become the world's emperor from the shadows. Has hundreds of children that operate throughout the world as heroes, villains, or even sleeper agents with very few escaping his machinations, if any at all.

>>149869886
There is no such thing as "former" confederate.

>>149869886
Hey, I also have an Apex!

>>149870500
that is just a recolored superman.

>>149870606
no this is a recolored superman

>>149869886
America is only 249 years old. Arizona didn't become a territory until the 1850's and a state in 1912, Arizona Ranger would be a Spanish or Mexican super soldier if he was that old

>>149870500
>>149870606
Both are recolored supermen, and I still like them!

>>149870901
Meant 200 years, my bad.

How do you design an origina, iconic super suit? Literally everything has been done before.

You cool with a character who straddles the line between hero and villain? Because I have a character like that: a chimpanzee who was launched into space and developed superhuman intelligence and psychic powers from exposure to cosmic radiation.

>>149861378
>Jack
now im intrigued

>>149870997
By being creative and not artificially limiting yourself to the specific design choices that marvel and DC made decades before you were born.
Any time that Japan does a take on superheroes, they have zero problem coming up with original supersuit designs that are not just dudes in different colors of spandex.
This is not an 'east vs west' thing, this is just a "realize how many options you really have" thing.

>>149846787 (OP)
Galactic Man
A high-ranking military officer from the future, born and raised on a scientific planet called Genberry. This world was part of the Joint Stellar Association, a utopian interstellar organization founded by humans in the 211st century.
However, the Association fell into ruins due to the elaborate millennial plans of an ambitious immortal conqueror named Gerkan.
In a desperate and bold move, the Galactic Man is chosen to travel to the past using a time machine to stop Gerkan’s plans and prevent the destruction of the Joint Stellar Association.
Powers:
Galactic Man generates a warping field that folds space in front of her and expands it behind her, creating a bubble of space around her body, allowing Galactic Man to travel faster than light.
Defensively:
It could move faster than the speed of light, out of range of atacks
The warp bubble could deflect projectiles or energy attacks by altering the path of space they travel through.
Offensively:
Generate a warp bubble around an object and direct it toward a target at faster than light speed.
Envelop an enemy in a warp bubble and instantly transport them to another location.
Generate spatial stretching to destabilize the atomic structure of an enemy.

>>149871306
LOOKS GAY! I'M IN!

>>149871162
https://youtu.be/kwxu7fq9JFE?si=Oif1A0EcaQQ5_-qC&t=7 ?

>>149864759
Yes. We need more superheroes.

It feels like we have at least a few heroes and settings that have caught some attention. Which of these ideas could you see actually sharing a universe? What would be some good villains for whats already been suggested that would play off of their concepts well?

>>149874779
What should we call this setting?

>>149858003
>>149861378
>>149869287
What can we get from this concept, though?

>>149861378
Some of these characters are pretty cool

>>149875391
/co/micverse. Obviously.

>>149874779
which ones do (You) like, anon?

Give me your fresh and new Superheroes and their powers.

Is this for training a LLM?

>>149878642
well...
Sometimes I think about the power of a man who was lost in the wild as a baby and raised by wolves. He became so deeply attuned to the nature he inhabited that a wolf spirit of the wild chose him as its vessel. Years later, after his mother and siblings passed away of old age, they come to his aid as ghosts whenever he calls upon them.
He himself can transform into a ghostly wolf with the typical abilities of a spectral being (intangibility, flight, invisibility, life force drain, object manipulation), but as the vessel of a nature spirit, his ghost form is gargantuan.
In terms of personality, I pictured him as someone the more experienced heroes see as exploitable—wild but naïve, still unadjusted to human civilization, yet eager to fit in. This often leads him to make foolish decisions that allow others to use him. However, he still has a noble heart and genuinely wants to help people.
Now you might wonder why he wants to help people if he grew up among wolves in a forest. No idea—I haven’t really thought that part through yet. Maybe it’s the influence of the wolf spirit, or maybe he’s simply someone intrinsically inclined toward good. Or perhaps he was inspired after witnessing genuinely noble heroes doing good. Who knows?

>>149877656
Personally, I think we have some good material here but browsing through the thread again the ones that jump out at me as being able to play nice in the same setting are:

Glorious looks good and could fit into a larger superhero setting if we have one.

Annabelle is cool, but by nature of the ghost-detective bit I don't think would actually interact with superheroes much. She COULD exist in a larger superhero setting, but I don't know that she gains much by doing so and her afterlife lore might complicate things for the superhero side of things unless we are careful.

Alien-spies story has potential, and can slot into a superhero setting easily, but we would need more details on these to flesh them out.

Shimmer Lily is solid. As is Deeplock.

The hero and villian married to each other is also good.

This isn't to say that the other ideas are bad, but some are just not compatible with each other. I need a second post to explain why.

>>149878911
Basically, a bunch of the ideas put forward in the thread only work in their own universes. They make deep assumptions about how the setting works in order to function, or would risk being undercut by the existence of other heroes beyond the story.

The hyper-political superverse with the alien artifact and Leviathan seems neat, but also has kind of an x-men problem where it wants to be in its own universe thats focused exclusively on its particular conflicts and themes. Any more 'traditional' superhero story you trued to tell in this setting would be inevitably colored by the political stuff going on in the background.

The one where literally everyone alive has been granted superpowers can't exist in the same setting as any situation where thats not true.

The 'heroes who have it rough' storyline is good, but ALSO probably doesn't want to share a large superhero verse because it loses impact if you have too many other heroes running around. The more heroes are in play in this world, the less justified the burden on these heroes appears to become if everyone else is doing her shit and NOT being stressed the fuck out by it. It would be harder to take the superman-expy's burden of responsibility seriously if there are 10 other superman tier heroes in the same setting and 400 other misc heroes running around without his hangups. This is a story that wants to be focused, personal, and small.

>>149847882
The only way I can see it working is just reinventing classism where all the useful superpowers are up top while all the lame ones are at the bottom. King could be mind control or soemthing. Anyways the aspect im most curious about is rasing someone in that environment because the bloodline is prepared to deal with the bullshit of a young kid with super powers

>>149879368
It feels like the most in-demand thing in the world would be power dampeners of some kind. Kids have their powers locked away until they reach some certain age (16/18/21?), prisoners have to have their powers dampened or face capital punishment because its too dangerous to try and keep them locked up with powers, etc.

Once power dampening becomes widely available, there will be pushes to make it normalized. Whoa whoa whoa, what the fuck are you doing? Why are you coming into my shop without your dampener bracelet on? You looking to start a fight? No? Then whats wrong with you, coming in here and waving your power around like that. You could hurt somebody!

>>149860133
I fuck with test hard, espe8callu want to hear not-spider man's dating life and Super Bimbo's guide in how to fuck super freaks. Also Plasma Orb's wacky adventures in trying to get into a rogue gallery Union. Very Venture bros but from thr spandex presepective

>>149880203
It feels like a lot of the concepts that have been put forward are kind of comedic or tongue in cheek. Not exactly parodies, just embracing the absurd or silly aspects of the genre and playing them straight.
That might not be a bad core identity to try and have for a coherent superhero setting. "A silly situation that the characters within it take 100% seriously", which also allows for threats to occasionally pop up that are all the more dire because this isn't silly for once.

>>149863625
Nobody wants a jungle girl like Shanna The She Devil in this setting?

>>149881487
I want several!

>>149876803
Honestly, probably not much. These are all old as fuck, which means that they come from a time when the bar for superheroes was very low. Innovation on the genre is not going to come from scraping the bottom of the barrel of the past.

If there are one or two ideas worth salvaging in this entire list, that will be a surprise.

Where are all of the superheroes?

>>149871306
Japan has been following the same exact super sentai formula since the 70s.

>>149871306
>they have zero problems coming up with original supersuit designs
Are you retarded? 80 percent of Japanese superheros is xeroxing Ultraman and Kamen Rider with some minor coloration changes.

>>149871306
Let me translate this from weeaboo:
>I AM A FUCKING RETARD COCKSUCKER

>>149883491
>I WANT TO SUCK ALL THE JAPANSE COCKS IN THE UNIVERS. I CANNOT STOP SUCKING JAPANESE COCK. IF I STOP SUCKING JAPANESE COCK I WILL FUCKING DIE.

>>149883519
>THE JAPANESE ARE FAR BETTER AT DESIGNING ORIGINAL SUPERHERO COSTUMES THEN US PATHETIC AMERICANS YOU CAN TELL BY HOW THEY KEEP USING THE SAME THREE DESIGNS SINCE 1971. I LOVE JAPANESE COCK! YUM YUM YUM!

>>149846787 (OP)
Why not do 'Superheroes + Feudalism?' Take 'with great powers come great responsibilities' to the maximum and instigate a world where to be a powered metahuman is to be the new nobility; to be protector and defender of the unpowered within your fief, and to expect their service and loyalty.

>>149883551
>>149883519
>>149883491
I don't even like power rangers and even I can tell you are full of shit. Of course legacy characters in the same long running franchise will look the same. dumbass

Got a couple more characters from my TRPG notes, but they are less developed then before.

Kid Kaiju- Bratty little kid with the power to exhibit monstrous traits like supersized growth, laser breath, scales, etc. Not in full control of their powers, and throws a dangerous tantrum when they can't.

Pierce- Creates "Hard-Light Shards" on locations around their body. These shards are translucent colored shapes sharper then obsidian that can either be used to block attacks to a decent degree, but the real use is that Pierce is able to oscillate the shards at rapid speeds, cutting through just about anything given enough time and effort.

Goon Squad- Can clone himself, but each clone renders him & the clones a bit stupider, leading to him becoming the perfect minion for hire. No clones can clone themselves, and are tough enough to take some damage before *poofing* into smoke when they either would be killed, or knocked out. Has not quite picked up why people started laughing at his name.

>>149883762
You're gonna point at a couple of series in the face of decades of history and act like that's the norm. The west has just as many off the regular designs.

>>149883817
Backtrack harder and I won't have to post anything at all.

>>149883792
Forgot to add one

Dark Horse- World's greatest getaway driver that has never been caught, piloting a nondescript all black muscle car that has survived damage from anything and everything, leaving only some scratches and dents. Has a taxicab window that they deal from to accept payment. If payment does not meet their standards you get booted out, no matter how powerful you are. Occasionally does discounts if they like you.

>>149883792
>>149883939

Goon squad is a nice concept. The first thing that comes to my mind there, though, is what if you had a character like that but it wasn't that the division actually makes them 'stupider', but instead have the downside be split attention? No matter how many bodies the guy has, he only has one MIND to drive all of them at once. Micro-managing a couple bodies at a time is doable, but trying to drive 10 different bodies all at once just doesn't work, you always have to leave half of them standing around waiting for you to get back to them while your attention is focused elsewhere.

Dark Horse is a great idea, but also makes me wonder if the super is the driver, or if the super is the car itself. Like there is no driver and it just pilots itself as some kind of possessed or self aware machine.

>>149846918
It's not my kind of thing, but this is a proper premise. The concept alone is already the hook that makes you watch and keep watching. Good work, anon.

>>149883850
keep going and you won't have anything to post at all.

Please don't put lolicon into this setting. The last /co/ brainstorming I was involved in imploded because people couldn't stop masturbating to the 8 year old catgirl.

>>149885244
Shouldn't be a problem. I don't think any of the characters suggested so far are fetish material, with the possible exception of Glorious being ryona bait since I imagine that she gets roughed up a lot trying to win fights above her level because her pride won't let her back down. Her best fights probably end with her bloody and bruised, but not beaten and claiming she didn't hear no bell.

>>149883491
>>149883519
>>149883551

uh oh capecuck melty

>>149886991
The funny thing is that he actually works against himself. None of those pictures contain a design that looks like a marvel or dc hero, not even the ones that literally ARE just people in spandex. They still prove the point that there are a lot of hero costume options out there that are not just recolors of the same 'strongman outfit and domino mask' hero archetype

>>149887078
>The funny thing is that he actually works against himself. None of those pictures contain a design that looks like a marvel or dc hero, not even the ones that literally ARE just people in spandex.

Wow you just missed the whole point of the argument.

>>149887078
Dumbass, the problem is that 90% of J-heroes is three costumes copied again and again and again for decades.

>>149888710
False and untrue. Except in times of deliberate homage the problem with Kamen Rider in particular is that there is very little cohesion that would even suggest they're from the same franchise.

>First superhero is capable of blowing up any part of his body. He can regenerate from this as well, choose how strong and far reaching the explosion is, whether the explosion is nuclear or chemical or even just simple combustion, and even launch parts of his body by exploding himself in certain places. He's able to regenerate anywhere after he blows himself up, essentially teleportation. He has an all blue costume with green goggles.
>He got his powers after being a test subject for an explosion-based mining technology because he tried to form a union.
>Meanwhile on a tour of the facility this technology was being made at, an unemployed jackass eats a sandwich that was left in the cafeteria.
>Turns out, this sandwich was an alien parasite in disguise. Now inside his body, he's able to access the infinite potential of hammerspace... through his mouth.
>While he can request items from the parasite, it's stingy with what it'll give out. The parasite can and will, however, create anything needed to keep its host alive.
>He can also stretch his mouth out an infinite amount to expel items, and as long as an item does not fully exit the darkness of his mouth, it can be pulled back inside.
>He can fire trains from his mouth, breath fire, fire bullets, walk on giant robot spider arms that extend from his mouth, spray acid, get weapons, cover himself in an instant healing gel from his mouth, it's endless.
>Together these two team up and become the first superheroes of their era.
I'll describe the villains in another reply.

>>149889002
>It's not derivative it's an homage

>>149889002
The big eyes are the only thing most of them have in common, especially after you get to the more gimmicky seasons.

>>149889188
Yes anon that's what's going on, the designs have deviated so catastrophically from the original over the decades that when it even vaguely resembles the original it's done deliberately

>>149889175
The villains are:
>Bubble-Villain: An archaeologist who put on an ancient bubble-shaped helmet and gained complete knowledge mastery and knowledge over bubbles and their utilization.
>The helmet also gives him his motivations: to be the villain. He doesn't really have any goals with his schemes; he just needs to be the antagonist.
>At first he merely utilizes soap and water bubbles, but then he extends the definition to bubbles made up of other materials, and he eventually realizes that he's able to do anything as long as the end product ends up bubble shaped. His bubble-suit (Which i have quickly drawn in MS paint, it's essentially just the bubble helmet plus a chest-plate, mechanical sleeves/gauntlets, and massive blue shoulderpads.) is his main vector for his powers.
>The moment he realizes this, he goes braindead. The knowledge of how he could end the world in the instant by creating a massive bubble of void, that he could create a "God-Bubble" which grants him omnipotence, this overwhelms him.
>Until our second villain drugs him, giving him a dull enough mind to not have to deal with or struggle with the implications of his own power.
>The King: A massive dude with a scepter and a crown. The crown enhances his physical capabilities, and the scepter allows him to control/manifest cosmic weather and gravity, stuff like meteors, wormholes, blackholes, solar flares, etc. He's the CEO of the company that gave the first superhero his powers, and he dresses like a medieval king.
>During blood moons he gets possessed by the devil as part of a deal he made in exchange for immortality (Dracula made the same deal back in the day). On the days before the possessions, he locks himself in a monastery encased in a vat of holy water surrounded by guard-monks so that the Devil can't do shit.
>The devil usually escapes and goes on a binge though. There's an arc where the devil extends the blood moon w/ the scepter and takes over the world.

>>149880203
Thanks I feel way to many of these pastiches try to go in a very grim or gratuitous fashion but on the other end may be to silly and trying to have grounded characters engage in absurd situations could work as a tonal balance or an even focus. With the guy ranting about his ex's I'd probably lean into a healthy mix of both serious exploration about how he values his work more since he cares for every life he's saved and often tries to keep in contact with them while also how he can't just switch off from his job since everyone he saves or doesn't lingers in his mind which is to much baggage for some relationships and how his personal life eroded to full-time focus on heroism with followup interviews with people who knew him before his heroism

I'd imagine the sex focused civilian probably going into the boundaries set in place since if a villain tries to get to rough with her he'd be jumped by the 30 other bad guys she shags, safety preparation in the case of them being made of materials like goo, having rubber powers or being a reptile man but also her going into her faves and kinks plus specifying that she never has the SRP when they are on the job or in the middle of evil schemes for legality reasons while also going into how she isn't a sex worker since it's just her hobby and she actually works at a clothing store for metahumans. Might be funny to have that segue into interviews with villains she slept with and them usually intially thinking it's over their crimes, motives and not the chick they bonk on weekends.

I'd make the distinction that Plasma Orb doesn't engage with her since he's utterly professional despite his C-List status and him going into what villains he has liked working with the most or even his childhood growing up as a electrical entity and then ranting on how bullshit the villain ranking system is.

>>149889460
>Surespot: A mercenary and former Special Operative for the military. His father was a soldier in the Vietnam War raped a woman in Vietnam, and that woman herself was born from a Japanese Soldier raping a Korean Woman who then moved to Vietnam. Surespot takes great pride in being created through two generations of war-based brutality, and constantly regales his opponents with this story as a way of fucking with their heads.
>Surespot is capable of identifying the exact pressurepoints and weakpoints in any structure or body, and hitting them with the exact force required to make them collapse or fall apart. He can hit a table and it'll fall into its original pieces as all its screws unscrew. He can find the exact point to stomp his foot in an elevator to make the entire building collapse.
>RobotMan and RobotWife: A Robotics expert put his brain into a robot and made himself a Robot Wife as well as a Robot Crime Syndicate. All his robots look like stick figures with tuna-tin shaped waists and tuna-tin shaped heads, but they make up for it with tommy guns. After they both get arrested, RobotWife hijacks RobotMan's body and hides his brain in her old, now paralyzed body, because him being human at one point means she'll be able to access the prison ammenities that she uses to escape.
>Warden: Imagine a mix of The Wall from Spider-Man, MODOK, and the Golems from Miitopia. A giant cube with a face that charges after you. He's chock-full of weaponry and musculature and; whilst working at a moon prison, it was observed his weight fucked with earth's tides if he moved too fast.
>Inside Warden is his brain, kept inside a massive steel bullet-shaped body, which he can eject from his bigger body if it gets damaged. Nothing can penetrate his armor, which can morph into various shapes, though Warden isn't creative enough to think of anything more than guns and fists. At some point, it's revealed he's a clone of Surespot.
>Warden is Surespot's son.

>>149885244
Guy who started Stargaze here, it’s been a while since I’ve last read about him. How’re you doing?

I just wanna say that my Annabelle idea not for lewd

>>149858003
>>149861378
>>149869287
Sure. We can talk more about them in here.

A question, for those who want a shared universe, what should be the limit of the characters' "power" so they don't upset the balance in this "scenario"?
It would be easier if those who answer compared them to existing characters, like "the limit is Spiderman level," for example.

>>149891082
I'm alright. Sorry your setting turned into lolicon spank material. That's got to hurt.

>>149892488
Does there need to be a limit? Marvel, DC, and Image have characters that range from athletic humans to gods.

>>149892875
Yeah, and thats generally pretty shit because it leads to wildly inconsistent writing.

>>149892488
I would say that, as a rule of thumb, universal/cosmic tier powers just flat out don't exist. They don't make for good stories, just dickwaving or dues ex machinas. The absolute highest that a power should ever top out at is city-level, and the rule should be "Never make a character that can, by themselves, fundamentally destroy the setting". Because once you have a dozen planetbusters running around, the fact that we all live on a planet becomes a point of concern.
Also heroes should be defined by a power bible that explains exactly what they can do, and more important what they can't, which new writers are required to adhere to. Limits breed creativity. Just punching harder is the least interesting way you can ever resolve a fight.
Lastly: no one should ever state that their character is the 'strongest in the world' or anything like that. Them being explicitly high tier in power should only ever be written into the character if the character narratively can't function without that being true (Superman doesn't actually NEED to be as strong as he has become for his stories to work, but One Punch Man fundamentally does not work if Saitama isn't absurdly strong)

>>149893136
>because it leads to wildly inconsistent writing
Well aren't we confident in our worldbuilding and writing?

>>149893136
>Cosmic powers BAD
Faggot. Read some Englehart Surfer sometime. Just because you aren't smart enough to figure out how to make a compelling story with powers greater than a steam shovel doesn't mean other people aren't.

>>149893136
I can already tell you've never written anything interesting in your entire life. This is the worst post in the entire thread. NOOOOOO THE CHARACTERS CAN'T PUSH PLANETS BECAUSE IT DISTURBS MY AUTISM. Fucking die you piece of trash. My shits have more creativity than you.

>>149846787 (OP)
Meet Mainline, the drug powered superhero. His story is about the gradual decay of good intentions. Suffering from severe depression after being rejected from job after job, he turned to hard drugs and his treacherous dealer slipped him an experimental drug that gave him a super-metabolism. Now, different drugs grant him temporary powers. Caffeine grants him a low level of super strength and speed. Steroids turn him into Bane. Alcohol and depressants give him a "slow aura" that makes things around him move slower and drains the kinetic energy of objects. Heroin makes him invincible. Psychedelics seemed to give him the ability to alter reality, or read minds, he wasn't sure which, but the experience scared the shit out of him, so he never touched them again.

He's a hopeless addict. He can't live without his stash and the thrill of being a superhero. But he uses his work as a superhero to justify his addiction. He helps people, so it's okay. He captures the bad guys, so it's okay. He also hates other superheroes, because if they can do what he does without the addiction and turning a blind eye to the drug trade, then what good is he, really? He goes so far as to secretly sabotage other superheroes and justifies it in his head by telling himself that it's hard work being a superhero and he's just weeding out the soft no-hopers.

tldr: junkie superhero who is slowly turning into a supervillain and doesn't realize it.

>>149861378
>>149869287
>>149892174
Have Marvel/DC ever use them before?

>>149894716
Dynamite did

>>149893792
Hancock with drugs instead of booze.

>>149894716
Cunnyrapeman, a western take on the iconic japanese superhero, Rapeman.

>>149894716
Probably?

>>149893556
TBF you don't have to be all that good to be better worldbuilding that Marvel/DC. Capeshit "worlduilding" is an incoherent mess. Especially once they ran out of ideas that didn't just amount to stapling more multiverse bullshit onto the side of the setting to explain where the next super big evil cosmic superbad comes from this time. DC especially has a problem with this, becoming fairly obsessed with endless new kinds of previously unmentioned 'dark multiverses' where everything is fucked up and evil, even moreso than the last time we did this 2 years ago.

>>149861378
>>149869287
>>149892174
I like this. I like this a lot!

>>149895265
Did he get his powers from booze? It's been a long time since I saw the movie I just remember him having demigod blood.

>>149898353
Yeah, he's just some kind of demigod/angel. He doesn't get his powers from booze, he just starts off the movie as an alcoholic hobo man, which is the only thing anyone remembers about the movie.

Behold: Silly Lily, The Crime Fighting Clown!
A Nightwing level acrobat with a sense of humour that can out joke Spider-Man. The life of the party and the death of being taken seriously as a villain.

>>149898655
Does she have any gadgets or powers that she uses to even the odds? Or is her strategy mostly to annoy low level villians until the real heroes or cops show up?
Like, how would she fight some low-tier villain with a superstrength power?

>>149846787 (OP)
Overkill

Thirteen year old Victor Vincent is a lonely kid. He's reserved, sickly and prefers to be alone. His bleak life gets even worse when his widowed father falls into a coma. Desperate to save his dad, Victor calls out for someone, anyone, to help. And unfortunately, someone answered.

A dark goddess, one of the five daughters of fate who judge whether fallen souls deserve damnation or reincarnation heard the call. She offers him a proposition, do her will on Earth and she will convince her kin to ignore Victor's ailing parent. Do it long enough and maybe a cure might be created to save him from the brink. There have been talks about said medication being so close to commercial release. But is it worth the cost?

To save his dad, Victor must kill someone at least once a month in the goddess's name. To aid him in this dark deed, she gives him the ability to change into the form of her champion; a hulking eight foot tall grey beast with giant, clawed hands and a fearsome tail with scythe on the end. This beast has no face, just a mask emblazoned with the dark one's sigil. This is no possession however and any choice made in this form will be from Victor and no outside sources.

With no other option, Victor takes the deal. However in an attempt to ease his conscience, he vows to only go after the bad guys. Hopefully he may find someone just despicable enough for him to commit the act every month. This begins the dark crusade of the powerful, the deadly and the mournful Overkill.

>>149898863
Novelty/Gag gadgets would make a nice addition, I just hadn't drawn them in this pic. This image wasn't even created for this thread to begin with; I looked through my old art and thought it would be a fun addition to the shared toy box that is this thread.

>>149898864
Seems like Overkill would probably be best treated as a villain rather than a hero, because thats what most people will see him as for obvious reasons. A villain with a sympathetic backstory, sure, but still a big scary monster that kills people.

This doesn't mean he can't team up with the heroes from time to time, but there would definitely be conflict there.

>>149899050
It would be funny if Silly Lily is seen as a joke hero from the outside, but any examination of her fights reveals that she is unironically a tactical genius with batman-level preptime powers. How did she know that the bad guy would run down that alleyway? How long has there been a giant spring-trap under that manhole cover? How did she know where to put the trampoline so it would bounce the guy into the river?
Her aesthetic is silly, but there's just no way that she could ever do half of what she does if she isn't a fucking genius under all that clown shit.

>>149846787 (OP)
Superheroes and supervillains are just fantasy creatures, people who got powers from fantasy creatures or people who make it their business to hunt the other two groups. Not just monsters from the Americas like wendigo and chupacabra, but ones from other places too, like vampires, succubi, dwergar, shellycoats, redcaps, kuchisake-onna, etc. There's an Elf ambassador who uses diplomatic immunity to avoid being prosecuted for vigilantism because he hates people who victimize children, gangsters hiring oni muscle, and the NSA has an ultra-classified if-you-had-the-clearance-to-be-told-about-them-you'd-already-know branch arranging "accidents" because they don't like power they don't control.

>>149892857
Not that much. I initially just wanted to start the project because I thought about for a while and I got bummed out of miss /co/. I’ll admit that I wasn’t fervently against it because it at least kept anons interested into the project. Like all projects that are exclusively on this board and doesn’t go to discord or somewhere else, you lose 90% participants once you decide to do once per week/two weeks threads.

>>149861378
Who are these people???

Lots of interesting heroes we got here.

>>149847906
Was he a rapist?
He seem a womaniser.

>>149846787 (OP)
Superhero setting but only women get superpowers

>>149902633
There's one guy who tries to Batman his way into being a superhero but all the lady villains beat his ass.

It was a fun thread.

>>149902853
We have our Batman but to be honest we only let him on the team because he offered to pay for everything. Sometimes we get some one to pretend to go evil and needs to be stopped so he feels useful with his silly "contingency" plans. Like you're really gonna get a chance to outsmart a planet killing god.

>>149847906
He doesn't come off as a rapist.

>>149902853
That doesn't sound fun.

>>149847906
You're autistic

>>149905674
that's because you aren't a little girl, anon

nice thread while it lasted.

>>149907322
You already posted that.

only girls have powers, and only before they hit puberty. as soon as they hit menarche, they lose their powers.

>>149907322
We can still make it, anon.

>>149907655
So magical girls?

An ancient sword that switches to a Stormbringer expy when thrown into the Not!River Styx and turns into a far more tolerable though not quite as powerful Excalibur copy when tossed in a lake

I'll probably think of some more specific heroes/villains or groups related to this later

>>149846799
But he's actually so amazing at fucking that all the villains he rapes eventually give in and reform as long as they can get fucked again by him.

>>149846819
>What if.. Superman.. were the bad guy?
Am I the only one who misread that as "What if Superman were the bald guy?"

>>149909523
Funny enough that was the original pitch.

>>149846787 (OP)
I had one I never fully fleshed out. Sort of a combo of Kingdom Come and Days of Future Past.
>A massive war between the world's heroes and villains breaks out all over the planet. Neither side can beat the other and the only ones who suffer are regular humans. The world's governments secretly pool all of their weapons and resources to create a weapon to kill every superpowered person on Earth. Of course, this ends up devastating the world with a combo of nuclear weapons and other super science.
>The story is set a few decades later, where all humans are screened for super abilities (and summarily euthanized).
I guess it would follow the few superpowered people in hiding and parents hiding their superpowered children, maybe joining up with others in a semi-post-apocalyptic world. Like I said, never fleshed it out.

>>149908966
sorta but there's rarely a specific focus on puberty in magical girls.

>>149846787 (OP)
I have this half-baked idea in my head for a series about a super team called the Prairie Suns, whose schtick is that they are the premiere super team of the state of Kansas, except Kansas is never targeted by supervillains, so they rarely see field action, spending most of their time just hanging out in their headquarters and sometimes showing up in costume for charity events.

Their roster would include:

Wild Card, an aged former member of a "real" superhero team who "retired" to mentor the Suns. Uses his power-copying ability to help train the other heroes.

The Dragon, who claims to come from a magical dimension, but is secretly a former supervillain who is now unrecognizable due to being turned into a dragon, and has used this as an opportunity to turn over a new leaf. Wants to be a good person, but also doesn't want to face the consequences of his past actions.

Force Field Guy, who obviously did not put a lot of thought into his super name. Born with the ability to make force fields, but had no interest in being a superhero, and grew up to a be a loser in his mom's basement. Then his sister-in-law got kidnapped by aliens, and he joined the Suns in order to train his powers so that he never lets anything like that happen to his loved ones again.

Super Bob, who is just a normal guy. He was a Make-A-Wish kid who wanted to be a superhero for a day. Years later, he realized that his key card from that day still works for some reason, and he just waltzed into Suns HQ, and for some reason, the team let him stick around. Since then, he has been training very hard to become a Comic Book Peak Human, desperately hoping to prove that he is not a waste of a roster spot.

And a few others that are currently even less fleshed out than those.

>>149910520
>The dragon

honestly, I was ready for you to make a KKK joke.

>>149910520
>make a wish

Don't those kids die? Isn't the whole point of make a wish making terminally ill kids' one last dream come true?

>>149910813
There have been rare occasions when they've lived.

>>149911137
ah, yeah, what's up with that? Do the make-a-wish guys just go back to the kid and undo the wish, like
>"Ok little billy, your wish was not to die a virgin, but you survived, guess we have to re-virgin you."
or something?
>"Ah jeez, your last wish was seeing a movie that didn't come out yet? guess we just have to electrocute your brain now so you forget it."

>>149910813
I thought the same and was kind of hoping the anon would conclude that character's plot by saying Bob suspects something he came in contact with during his first visit recovered him and is staying with them to investigate but also silently out of superstitious fear he might relapse if he leaves, and they don't kick him out from fear if he did it would be ruinous PR.
If not misdiagnosis it could even be something before or after the visit slipped his attentiveness from focusing on the more major event and location.

Kind of bleak, but also would be an interesting background plot thread. How do we know for certain what we "know for certain"? Feel free to take or leave any of this, anon. I personally would just love more unexpected characters and scenarios that get the audience's attention with a curious premise then probe them to question their own presumptions and doubts, like Eternal Sunshine turning from a sci-fi tragedy into a psych session for avoidant personalities.

There was also a similar thing in the show V but there it was more malicious with the invading aliens tricking a reporter into thinking they'd cured him so he'd unwittingly, and therefore more sincerely, become their propagandist.

>>149898655
Her nemesis is Drama Queen, a old crippled hag tied to an incubator chair kind of like Madame Web. Her angry Dour self despises Comedy and jokes and believes the world should be as miserable as her. She creates her Harbingers of Tragedy to spread her gloom. Her most feared minion is the Crimson Edge, A resurrected zombie knight who's blade can cut through reality to warp it into a more dramatic and sad state, for example, if someone was subjected to a comedic banana peal slip, he could cut through reality at that moment and dramatize the event into a tragic accident, the person affected would then go on a murderous rampage for the tragedy that befell him

>>149846787 (OP)
What fresh idea are we cooking here, OP senpai?

I have the image in my mind of a lady machinist who figures out a way to drastically increase the power-to-weight ratio of things, which she uses in a makeshift suit of knight's armor with some actuators to basically do Berserk/Claymore-esque stuff minus the helmet because of ventilation issues.

Another fellow is an athlete who has the power of minor shock resistance, but its only relevant after he gets a career-ending injury from a run-in with the mafia. His job is to survive terrible injuries and spout positive life advice like Wilson from Home Improvement.

>>149907322
What are you talking about?
The thread is still active, and more to post bumps and replies.

>>149846787 (OP)
>Pretend that we are coming up with a new superhero setting. No DC, no Marvel, etc.
Why not base your superhero universe on the Astro City series?

>>149913811
Astro city already exists and is good, so trying to do its bit again will only make us a pale imitation. Also, Astro City is already very past-facing. It does a good job of reimagining and recontextualizing old tropes and ideas, but at some point we need to stop sucking off the past and come up with new things.

>>149847320
Like to see more of this.

>>149846918
How glorious.

>>149846787 (OP)
I think it's time we make our own better version of Valiant universe, now they are pretty downhill industry.

>>149847753
You talking about the movie Syndrome or that anon's idea?

>>149846787 (OP)
I've always loved superhero's that have some kind of time/resource restraint on their powers - Hourman has always been a favorite. Spiderman's webshooters. Spawn's ectoplasm counter, to a lesser extent. The idea of a concrete/semi-concrete, finite resource that the hero has to manage, as they go about their crimefighting, is just a great way to ratchet up the tension - even if it's almost always completely arbitrary.

So, having day-dreamed about the idea for a while now, I propose 'Minuteman'!
>In his day-to-day, Henry Harvard is an unassuming nerdy everyman, but, when he needs to, he dons his costume, and fights crime as the costumed vigilante Minuteman.
>His powers are that, with a moments thought, he can enhanced his natural abilities - every aspect; his strength, stamina, toughness, agility, speed, intelligence, reflexes - everything - to superhuman levels. He can lift multiple tons clean over his head, leap dozens of meters into the air, shrug of bullets (though he's more "bullet-resistant" than "bulletproof") and blows that would turn a regular person to red mist - when he's not dodging them, that is (though, I think I'd have that be more of a party-trick for him, than anything; he can dodge 'a' bullet, sure, if he has to, and he's ready for it, but he's not going to do dancing through a hail of gunfire). He has a perfect memory while his powers are working, and his ability to asses, collate and act on information is almost super-computer-esq. He has an incredible ability to regenerate from harm - the works, but …
>He can only do it for 60 seconds, in a 24 hour period. That's it. Assuming he hasn't activated his powers at all, he can turn them on, and 60 second timer starts counting down … while a 24 hour timers starts counting up. Now, he doesn't have to use up all his time at once; he can use a few seconds there, a few second here, but until that 24 timer is up, that's all he's getting.

>>149916530
>Every fight is now a challenge; every battle a puzzle. Minuteman often has to run away from fights, because if he beat the villain, now, he'd drop the bad guy right as he'd run out of time, turn around, then get wacked by some random two-bit hoodlum with a shotgun.
>Most big fights now revolve around Minuteman doing incredible amounts of planning, sorting out timings, waiting for the right moment … then just dropping in like something out of a Punisher comic, and beating the living shit out of the villain, before scurrying away like a little bitch. When things work out his way, that is. Which they rarely do.
>Most of the time he has to go into fights with maybe a dozen seconds left, and he just has to work things out.
>Most people, of course, don't know about any of this, and just think that Minuteman is some crazy, amped up super with nothing to lose, and a frightening amount of training for someone with powers like his.
>Most people think he must be ex-special forces. He's actually just using his power-boosted brain to quickly speed-read through books on strategy, tactics, fighting, technology, what-have-you.
>Isn't helped by him being almost totally silent when he's in costume - to the point that most people think he's either mute, has some mental disability of some kind, or both.
>It's actually because he's fucking terrified, most of the time, and his mouth tends to just lock up when he's under pressure.

I'm thinking of him as a Spider-man expy. But, instead of constant quips, it's stone-cold silence (with a long, expletive-filled internal dialogue for the reader). Most of his adventures would just be playing around with the basic concept. Every fight is now an almost life-of-death struggle. Even Z-listers have some serious stakes. He runs out of time, gets laid out by a c-list villain in the middle of a big fight, and no-one comes to rescue him, because they all assumes he's gonna pop back up and second, now. That sort of thing.

>>149863447
That all works but I have to say that it all start up in a pre-established setting.
The justice league has already been form, they fought some world ending threats, and they all trade info, they just don't have familiarity with each others personal lives, they're all "work friends" in a sense.
And to listen to >>149863175 I'd say the monster attack doest show the heroes their own problems but forces them to see the others. Speedster dude who was social issues/crippling lonliness sees that magic girl is going through some clinical depression and can't pay for her meds and vice versa.
They don't immediately help each other, they think to themselves that "I can't do anything" but having that knowledge does make them realize that maybe they could help out.
One hero talks to superman with supes' archvillian and gets him through his feeling of responsibility for deaths he believes he could've stopped , that spidee-expy does that scene defend super-soldier lass etc.
Thats when the keague grows closer, learning that the heroes have major problems too and need the help.

>>149846787 (OP)
Can history be altered? So that this new universe won't have the baggage as to what's happening in the real world

>>149915535
What's Valiant?

>>149846787 (OP)
We don't need them Supers, for now.

>>149846787 (OP)
How would this look like? How original can it get?

>>149918798
What do you mean?

>>149920376
When making a reality of superheroes then how can the universe they're in be based on? & how much of the changes can be made that would separate that world from this?

>>149846787 (OP)
A superhero that does good but has a passive ability that causes everyone to perceive him as a villain instead. He has super strength, flight, super endurance, super speed/reflexes and many more. But he'll never be recognized as a hero and is actively hated by everyone and is even hunted by other superheroes. This only happens when he transforms into his hero persona, where he can truly access his powers. He can't access them as a normal human. This causes him to go through depression and he fights to overcome this and his desire to just give up. The theme is that you should always do what's right, even if the whole world is against you.

>>149881524
Same

>>149846799
I'm pretty sure there is a porn doujin or something like that out there.

>>149846787 (OP)
We're having superheroes now?

>>149861378
I kind of like American Crusader. I think he's neat.

>>149846787 (OP)
Will your superhero universe be as funny as The Tick universe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkM-nRL_U38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0p_2i8qMh4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah7GxKHGHPg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkzptjhCkbs

>>149846787 (OP)

Do they have to be caped/traditional superheroes?

Post apocalyptic world. In which food and water is used to keep the population in line, people are kept reliant on ai and are not very smart. Endless artificial dustbowls to prevent food from being grown by anyone besides the government.

Tankboy, aka Sherman Scott, a man who can grow hard metal plates on his body and fire cannons (mostly projectiles but a mega laser as his finishing move) he takes down exosuited corpo-gangs, and giant mechs used to control cities... finally he can transform into a tank-like body, and shed it when necessary.

He realizes along the way that rescuing people is better than chasing an endless nightmare.

Villains are going to be the leaders of the cities

The schizo bot posts are really getting tiresome.

>>149926742
You seem to don't like superheroes.

>>149926742
Learn to love superheroes, m8!

>>149847785
Which Homelander?
The TV series or the og comics?

Instead of the typical superhero vs supervillain stick how about we do something like
>The Government is aware of the existence of SuperHumans and seeks to contain them, and teach them how to abide by the laws and be normal citizens
>They hire a senior superhuman that isn't ridiculously over powered, but is no joke when engaged in battle.
>He is tasked with taking in juvenile superhumans and taking them in to mentor them on how to be better people.
>He is often Nicknamed Mr. And 1.
>His ability is basically that if someone lands a fatal blow on him, he revives and copies that person's exact ability and removes a limitation from their ability.
>If he gets jumped by a band of superhumans it has no significant effect on him they'll just trigger his "Totem of undying" ability over and over again repeatedly.
>Effectively he can only be beaten in a 1v1 battle.
>He also has a wacky brother with a stupidly busted passive ability that even he can't control it.
>He not only defies the laws of physics, just by existing he breaks them and creates all sort of mayhem in the real world when he's outside his pocket dimension.
>Mr. And 1 only brings him out when he's needed
>He's favorite catchphrase is "And that is your limitation!..."
>Mr. And 1 has also learned the power of ragebaiting, as most of his formidable foes have figured out the best way to defeat him is to not engage in battle with him.
>To compensate Mr. And 1 has mastered the art of ragebaiting and forcing his enemies to throw a fatal blow at him. He says the most vilest things to get them to snap but a heroes gotta do what a heroes gotta do.

>>149928034
>Mr. And 1 mentors three juvenile superheroes throughout most of the story. He mostly teaches them how to not be menances to society with their abilities.
>They are Zero, Silence, and Jack.
>Zero is just a superfast guy number 1 million, but like he's name sake he's so insanely fast he literally does everything in what seems to be almost no time.
>He's also the most powerful team member second only to Nonsense (And 1's brother), being so fast most of the time all the criminals get locked up by him before the rest of the team has a chance to react.
>He wears a grey outfit streamlined for aerodynamics which enables him to fight air resistance better.
>He's favorite catch phrase is, "You say you got it in a second, well I got it in a Jiff"
>Silence is a hero that dresses like an owl and has wings, he also have boots with claws that can grab objects mimicking the claws of a real owl. His ability is super stealth, being able to sneak up on any opponent.
>Silence doesn't have much to say, but he's being mentored by And 1 to use his stealth ability for good, and not to commit robberies.
>He's also being taught on how to speak more and be more social.
>Jack is pretty much immortal. He regenerates so fast that his body instantly consumes whatever pierces it.
>He's not a very interesting fellow other than just acting like your average teen.
>Mr. And 1 also has a robot assistant called Omega-13. He too has kick ass fighting abilities, however it has a very thin skeletal frame so he is vulnerable to attack Together, they are tasked with apprehending Superhumans and making sure that they are kept in check

>>149846787 (OP)
What if superhero universe, but with furries?

>>149928703
Super Pets already exists

>>149928726
Oh ok.

>>149898655
>Silly Lily, The Crime Fighting Clown!
>tfw
Very cute design but when I search her up on rule34 I get zero results
I need lewds of this "Silly Lily, The Crime Fighting Clown" ASAP

>>149902633
>>149902853
does some encounters involve rape by said lady super villains of this regular man hero after they defeat him and have their way with his manhood?

>>149927361
It's a shame he doesn't do comms

>>149849374
That would be a fun anthology series. The character designs would have to be really good though. Probably better than what /co/ can muster.

>>149847906
>implying
Put some respect on my boy Gamma Jack
He is a gentleman and a scholar for which the ladies have a natural affinity towards

>>149846787 (OP)
How hard is it to create a superhero universe without the inspiration of Marvel or DC comics?

All I'm seeing is people making random text only OCs instead of building off one another, this shit is never going forwards this way, not as other real /co/ projects

>>149930369
What do you prefer to draw inspiration from? Mythology?

>>149863558
That's dope, specially considering the "big reveal" of him being an ex detainee which scares people that once loved him, seeing their reactions would be cool in exploring our preconceived notions, natural fears and how people will take leverage on that, fortunately we had the latter played similarly in Gunn's superman

>>149865173
You can explain the rest of the world having powers because of all the countries the US invaded in the cold war, I'd shit myself if I was a general realizing the countries we couped are now recovering but have several super babies with enormous resentment of our government

>>149865686
Really liking this, though honestly at the same time making so that the USSR never fell makes it even more interesting, could give off those Incredibles retro futuristic vibes but not ripping off 50's americana for the millionth time

>>149880118
If we're using the 70's themed space race idea it would make sense to have the thing that changed human DNA to allow the possibility of powers (likely some radiation) also having an antagonistic material that absorbs this radiation and would make the cells less reactive, so it's not a total cure but it would make powers much weaker

>>149930536
It's a bot thread or one fag self replying

>>149909418
Except for his main villain who keep doing crimes because Superman fuck at his best when it's rape

>>149930536
Alright, in that case lets narrow things down.
If we remove the obvious shitpost ideas (aka, what if HERO but RAPIST BAD GUY) and the ones that come packaged with their own setting that can't play nice with anything else, what are the top ideas that we are left with?
I know which ideas I like, but there are also a couple of my own ideas in this thread so I can't claim impartiality.

>>149930551
Considering there's a vast amount of mythology to explore, I think you're on to something. There's a ton of mythology to explore, like Irish Celtic, African Yoruba, Aboriginal culture, and Gnostic stories etc. With just a few minor tweaks, these narratives could be great sources of inspiration for superhero stories.

>>149931871
If you're not careful, drawing too heavily from mythology just turns your superhero setting into a modern fantasy setting where for some reason bank robberies are important.

>>149846787 (OP)
>Pretend that we are coming up with a new superhero setting. No DC, no Marvel, etc.
It's hard to do that, but I think we could try!

>>149930369
very difficult

>>149846799
can we just skip having superman

>>149934012
Honestly, probably not a bad idea. Superman sucks all of the air out of the room, and its so easy to just make a 'superman, but...' character that brings so much baggage with him. And also have the issue of then making it so you are clearly just existing in response to DC, instead of doing your own thing.
Its okay if you make a character that someone else refers to as 'the superman of X setting', but only in the same way that people say that Cap or Allmight are 'the superman of X'. You should never actually start with superman as your conceptual starting point, because its unlikely you have anything interesting left to say on a character thats already been deconstructed and reconstructed for a century and if they can just be summed up as 'superman but' there probably isn't much else to them.

>>149846787 (OP)
One day, 58% of the human population, ages 16 or up, gain super powers that are believed to be tied to what they're good at in life; or The Calling. They can only use these powers while employed in a job that matched their calling.
>Fire fighter?
Hydrokinesis or fire immunity
>Construction?
Enhanced durability and strength
>Accounting?
Hyper cognition
>Police?
Projectile manipulation or Truth inducement
>Most people, called Hourlies, can only use their powers during a set time of day (9-5pm). While others can use them whenever they want (food delivery and Uber). They are called On-Callers.
>Despite the limitations of these powers, the public and Governments are untrustworthy of those with powers, and so they're treated as second class citizens. Thanks to edgy capeshit like The Boys.
>Nevertheless, most people who received the calling are satisfied. But the story focuses on a young man who can lift heavy shipping freight with his mind and want more from life. He one day discovers a loop hole that could change everything.

>>149853767
>sloppa allowed or only original sloppa?
Is there any english alternative of this word?
I am so sick and tired of this zoomer words.

>>149934686
It what happened when you take a legitimate term, goyslop, and break it down to be normalfag friendly that everyone can worn out.

>Black Ball
A young up and coming WNBA hopeful get her hand cut out in a terrible accident. She uses her genius intelligence and a strange black ball she found to become BLACK ball. With the suit she made had enhanced strenght,speed and agilty as awell as strange enegry ablitiy from the ball,such as forcefield, magnetic disruption, and enegry blasts. What secrets does the aliend black ball have??? Btw the Black ball is used as her left hand in the suit and she uses it as a mace.

I want to make a superhero that's a really big, bulky guy with huge arms and muscles, but I don't have any ideas on want he should look like after that. Any ideas?

>>149847906
This picture seems edited?

>>149935035
Well, what powers does he have? Is he just strong, or there is more to him? About how strong is he/whats the most impressive thing he could lift if he needed to?
What else can you tell us about the character?
Character design never exists in a vacuum, every visual design choice you make comes with an opportunity cost, and you want a superhero in particular to communicate the essence of their character in how they look and their costume design. But you have to decide what that characterization IS in the first place before you can hope to convey it visually.

>>149935734
Well, he's really strong and durable. He also punches very fast, jumps very high and is immune to poisoning. He has his mind and sanity in tact, but is bummed out about his circumstance. I'm still iffy on his backstory. Initially, he was a normal human but his body was morphed into that goliath being. What I'm iffy on is the "how." I'm debating between him magically switching souls with the monster that attacked him, him being submerged in some unknown liquid that transformed him, or him being transfigured by a powerful villain.

>>149928703
What if I smashed your head into the corner of a granite countertop? What about that?

>>149855757
It really is, yo.

>>149936826
Combine option 1 and option 3: Supervillian experimented on people to make the 'perfect body', with the intent of doing a mind-swap to put his brain into the perfect host and leave his frail old man body behind.
MC gets kidnapped, turned into this thing, and the old man tries to bodyjack him but the MC manages to escape with his super strength.
The old man villain either is still an old man and dying, or was forced to swap his brain into a 'lesser experiment' to survive. Either way, he wants to capture the MC and steal his body.
If the mad scientist is in another experimental body, you could even say that he is burning through his spare bodies and have him show up with a different form with different powers every time. But every body was considered a failure for a REASON, so they also have horrible defects or don't live for very long or some other big flaw. As time goes on the more desperate the guy gets as he is forced into using more dangerous and more flawed bodies, running out of spare bodies and time. And thus being pushed to take more extreme measures to capture the MC by any means necessary.

>>149928703
Only if they're sexy.

>>149934153
If we look to something like manga, I'd say that someone like Kenshiro is definitely a "superman" archetype. He can almost always win or at least clutch one even against stronger enemies. But he's not invincible and he has to grow in power over the course of the story, and it's not really treated as a grimdark for-the-sake-of-edge story either for all the gore in it. It's about overcoming callousness with compassion and is very hopeful in tone.
That doesn't mean you have to directly remake him in a superhero setting with martial arts and stuff, but it does mean you can have a "strongest superhero" that isn't a flying brick direct superman clone.

>>149938013
FUCK MANGA

>>149939260
FUCK MAGA

>>149932546
Nice art.

>>149928726
Super who now?

I made an evil mage called Blackhand. Fire and Lightning magic, can animate objects that are shaped like a person, and can hide in shadows.

>>149846799
Comics Code Authority wouldn't allow it

>>149846787 (OP)
NO CAPES

So when do we start posting good ideas?

>>149944242
https://youtu.be/zHyt69mJnj8?si=QzO1zFuy14_VXLW2&t=22

>>149846787 (OP)
How do you all create a perfect villain counter to your hero?

>>149945415
I don't.

Here's my explanation for super powers

>There was a medicine distributed to help fight climate change or some virus.
>50% of people who took it serious side effects
>10% got super powers
>there's prejudiced against those with powers and also against those unaffected by the drug
>new drugs that cause different effects are released over time, leading to new batches of super humans

Here's another one I call BLOCKCHAINED

>Super powers but the strength of a hero's superpowers is based on the value of a memecoin tied to their name on a global blockchain. The powers are seemingly determined at random by some as of yet unbreakable code made by a mysterious founder.

>The most powerful superheroes have to balance doing superhero work and shilling their memecoins through social media, stunts, leaks, etc

>Sometimes speculators and social trends can cause a hero's powers to fluctuate wildly at inconvenient times

>Market manipulation may also be involved in boosting or crashing a hero's power levels

>>149945703
How would you do it then?

>>149846787 (OP)
Add a Ritesh-themed Supervillain

>>149946639
Brilliant. But pray tell me this. Who's Ritesh?

>>149934012
We skip having Superman at home

The obvious necrobumping from page 10 going on in this thread disappoints me. And I know its not OP doing it, because I'm OP.

>>149846799
>>149846819

Both of these but if he was also a female, It'd sell billions

>>149928034
>Instead of the typical superhero vs supervillain stick how about we do something like
It was a throwaway concept for Indian superheroes in Worm but I always liked the idea of the Hot/Cold dynamic.
>Hot supers
>>Flashy, colorful costumes, and all the hero/villain stuff is kayfabe influencer stuff.
>Cold supers
>>Plainclothes, no code names, basically narco gangs vs CIA kill teams a la Sicario
>Never can Hot and Cold mix

>>149861378
I'm reminded that the original version of Ougon Bat/Golden Bat/Fantomas is public domain because he came about in 1930. Maybe you could ape him and have your cape be a "everything i'll be fine as long as i'm here laughing at villains" kind of hero, but without the superman aspect of something like All Might.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZpq3eWw6Y8

>>149949560
You know, I never get how the Golden Bat was first created.

>>149950138
>media
was a form of "street theatre" popular with young japanese kids during the great depression, handled with exciting narration and a collection of painted images that you'd switch between to tell a story
kinda loosely like punch & judy puppet shows i guess
>concept
mostly just a mix of mythological inspirations from a local museum and some random sci-fi concepts thrown in for flair, but apparently the name came from a cigarette brand which is pretty funny

>>149950241
I think his design from that time might've been inspired off of the musketeers or maybe some pulp stuff like Zorro too.

>>149915535
What's wrong with them?

>>149951125
Uninteresting designs, mostly. Maybe its just the artist doing them disfavor, but you can sort of tell just by looking at that entire crowd that these are all c-rank wannabees. Not one of them has an eye-popping design that sticks in your mind. It all feels generic.

>>149951204
That's really a shame. I wish they'd done more when they were at their peak.

>>149846787 (OP)
Hear me out - Superman is the only good superhero due to his connection to the magnetic field of the universe and being able to navigate everything, also the sun thing

>>149952046
He lifted a green car once. I think that's pretty cool.

>>149952261
yep

>>149952046
What?

>>149944952
FNF girlfriend is hot af

>>149953810
>What?
your brain on batman

>>149948743
>>149953810
>>149955666

>>149956314
Whatever, schizo

>>149948743
You are not OP you lie.

>>149957687
Genuinely what do you get out of this? Whats your endgame?
I know you won't respond for another 4-6 hours until the page sinks down to page 10 again, but I gotta know what you hope to gain from just necrobumping the thread like this over and over again.

>>149957737
To humiliate those that think they can worldbuild on co. To humiliate you. You will learn nothing creative can come from this godforsaken board and when you think about making another thread you will not.

>>149957846
You sound stable.

>>149957880
You sound unstable.

>>149851760
>>149851946
Tell me more!

>>149946639
>Ritesh-themed Supervillain
What's that?

>>149846787 (OP)
Personally, if I were going to do a superhero setting I would ditch a lot of sacred cows that are present in the genre. For example, secret identities. I don't want to make an edgy setting, but I hate the idea of secret identities to protect against criminals and shit. I mean, hello? Cops aren't so pussy that they need to hide their identities, so it inherently makes heroes seem like punks when they do that bullshit.
I think supers should wear costumes to hide themselves from government prosecution while they go around committing vigilante violence. In other words, I think superheroes should have a much more violent, punkish angle. Less cop, more Luigi Mangione.
I think a world that treats them as vigilantes by default and heroes only after they build a reputation makes more inherent sense than being a hero first, and only getting treated like a vigilante if they start murdering people.

>>149945415
It's hard to create an actual perfect supervillain here.

>>149948743
>>149957687
>>149957737
>>149957846
>>149957880
Memes are memes they're not black, white, hispanic, asian, male, female, non-binary, or LGBTQIA. They are for everyone to use regardless or who you are or what you identify as. Assigning identifiers to images is just another way to divide this already fractured world.

>>149846918
neat!

>>149960164
Well, lets go back to basics The origins of secret identities is a holdover from the Lone Ranger, Zorro, and other radio plays/pulp stories where the hero was unambiguously a a man operating outside of the law as a vigilante. What was key here was that, despite being the protagonist, what they were doing was not just technically against the law, they were often explicitly fighting corrupt local authorities (evil sheriff, railroad tycoon that controls the town, etc) AND while exceptional fighters a bunch of dudes with guns was a legitimate deadly threat to them.

So you're right, the the purpose of secret identities isn't to protect against supervillains, its to protect against the law. It CAN help against supervillains in specific circumstances, but the law is the primary source of danger to these vigilante heroes.
But the other half of that equation is that having the cops called on you has to still be a legitimate threat. Someone who is strong enough that they are bulletproof probably doesn't have much to lose even if the army gets called on them, guns are not a threat to them. Whereas someone who as the ability to throw fireballs and has no other powers has a very good reason to not pick fights with the police, because they go down to a glock just as easily as anyone does.

> I think a world that treats them as vigilantes by default and heroes only after they build a reputation makes more inherent sense than being a hero first, and only getting treated like a vigilante if they start murdering people.

This is a good start, but I think its worth taking one step further because then we have to ask ourselves the question: who decides who is a hero and who is a vigilante? There will be obvious extremes where public opinion will force one outcome over another, but many heroes will fall somewhere in the middle and someone has to decide whether they are sanctioned or not.

[cont]

>>149961168
Would probably make having a secret identity a street level vigilante thing, and not bothering with a secret identity at all is like slapping your cock on the table and daring the Air Force to do something about it.

>>149961168
Now I'd like to take a tiny detour before I loop back around to answering that question, because its relevant: what do you think a world that has superhero shit happening in it on a regular basis looks like? Mad scientists with doomsday weapons, weird science experiments getting out of control, alien invasions, monsters from other dimensions, etc. All of this shit is spilling out and wrecking main street in big cities and small towns.

I don't know about you, but I think that the average person in these worlds is going to be *fucking terrified*. Heroes keeping these things in check is great and all, but that doesn't mean that these attacks are not HAPPENING and even a fight that the heroes win will have collateral damage often enough to raise concerns, and highlight for people how great the risk is if the heroes ever lose.

People would be afraid and stressed out. And when people are afraid, they are quick to give up liberty for security. Maybe not all at once, but a little at a time until it adds up.
What I am getting at is, a world where super-threats happen often would naturally gravitate towards strong government and authoritarianism as people demand to be protected from the scary world around them. That's just how people work.
So the government is going to HAVE to take a stance on heroes. The government, which by default wants to maintain a monopoly on the legitimate use of force, doesn't want random people with powers inserting themselves into conflicts on their own any more than they want random people with guns running into an active crime scene to deal with shit.

What this will quickly comes down to is this: legitimate superheroes either work directly for the government, or the government has given their blessing to in some official capacity. Everyone who doesn't have this permission is a criminal. Government sanctioned heroes don't have to hide their identity, vigilante heroes do. And the two will often come into conflict with each other.

>>149961256
To that end, I think what is likely to happen in such a setting is a standing "Super Draft". The government would be testing people for powers in schools to identify anyone who has a special ability, and once they hit 18 or whatever they become draft material. Its not a bad thing, its for the public good, we are just putting you into a special program so that you can learn to control your powers and use them to their best ability. And then you have a garaunteed job in the Super Force! It pays very well! If you can save lives, you get to be a hero! If your power isn't useful for that, the government will pay you a salary just to sit on your ass until your power DOES become useful in some context, and then you'll be tapped to put it to work for the common good. The guy who has the power to eat radioactive material isn't going to be useful fighting crime, but he's a wonderful way to deal with other problems, etc.

Making it a standing Draft is a useful device, because it means that avoiding it *is a crime*. You don't even have to be actively doing vigilante shit or otherwise breaking the law, just trying to hide that you have powers and not do your mandatory government service already makes you a criminal in the eyes of the law. This forces the issue between registered and sanctioned supers, and people who either don't want to work for the government or just want to be left alone.

Most average people would likely support the super draft, because it is seen as a good thing and it keeps them safe. Its why we have heroes, after all! Don't you like heroes? But there would very much be a culture of punk-ish vigilantes operating outside the system, and THOSE guys would very much need to have secret identities to avoid the feds swarming their asses.

How does that sound?

>>149961323
>How does that sound?
I don't hear any sound here. All you is typing?

>>149956314
Politics?

>>149960164
>Cops aren't so pussy that they need to hide their identities
lol, lmao even, also please learn some grammar

>>149960164
>Cops aren't so pussy that they need to hide their identities
You haven't watched the news much this year, have you?

>>149961323
this would play well into a narrative about morality because you'd definitely have large swathes of the population who are pro draft law but also would be in favor of some of the vigilantes who unquestionably do good, see how not long ago even the most right wing people were turning on media outlets trying to paint Luigi Mangione as a criminal.
This also plays well into that older idea a few posts up of a lot of people having powers, though many of them being useless, that doesnt means everyone would suddenly want to make justice with their own hands, but it would definitely speak into that sense of justice of standing up to someone who actually puts their well being on the line despite the state making it hard to do so (besides also literally fighting super criminals)
An addendum, I think it's criminal, heh, how little those super spy/retro futuristic 70's/the cold war didn't end ideas werent adopted by other anons

>>149963636
>An addendum, I think it's criminal, heh, how little those super spy/retro futuristic 70's/the cold war didn't end ideas werent adopted by other anons

The problem I see with that personally is that those ideas lock us into a time and place culturally that has already been stripmined for nostalgiabucks a million times already by other franchises. The cold war era stuff is only ever going to be more and more outdated, as much as corporate media keeps trying to convince us that the 80s are eternally cool and we should wrap ourselves in them like a blanket and never ever leave it.
Baking that into the setting sort of locks us in to always playing with out parent's toys, and comes off as a quiet sort of desperation to avoid talking about anything remotely modern in terms of culture or politics by hiding behind a pastiche of old culture/politics which are safer.

>>149892174
Why were they called it the golden age of comics?

>>149961323
i'm pretty sure marvel had a loosely similar concept going on for a short time with MI-13, but actually exploring that feels like it'd lend really well to something interesting
>>149963445
holy fucking bingle
it's hbo watchmen irl

>>149964786
>it's hbo watchmen
Yeah, that show sucks. Do you want to go and read this thread about rewriting HBO Watchmen?
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/149595945/#149595945

>>149945415
Cool design.

>>149889987
was the rape necessary

>>149902633
>>149902853

That's just Sailor Moon anon

>>149967726
Not him but what's wrong with having Sailor Moon as a new superhero setting?

>>149963920
I too hate 80's nostalgia corporate slop, but I do think there's a sweet spot in the 60's and 70's that is largely forgotten, mostly because of how political it is and therefore hard to be turned into corporate slop, and that could have some of it's aesthetics translated to modern day without locking the idea too much to a time past, for some reason The X's keeps coming to mind, that and Venture Bros. obviously. Hell the plot can even be about how times are changing too, ala Incredibles

What (you) think we should lock in on? I particularly like the space race bringing an age of metahumans across the globe, the civil rights movements would be ten times more chaotic, though I think we should agree on how long we're past and how much metahumans as a whole are habituated in the public conscious. I liked that people want to skip superman too, imo it would be a lot more interesting to have a Professor Xavier character be a bigger face for metahumans rather than some enormously strong character.

I could pester a drawfriend anon to come slave away on some art for us lol, but with no particularly solid idea I think it's hard for other people to put some effort into it to make it more cohesive.
Unrelated picture because boobs drag attention.

>>149968775
Small add on, I've been meaning to say that this setting would very much be contemporary, as in, 2025 or 202X, just the super spy/Incredibles aesthetic would be on to shake things up a bit, hence the retrofuturistic theme

>>149968775
I think that we might be better off creating analogies for things to recreate the parts we like about the 60s/70s era, instead of just ripping it entirely. By creating new conflicts, even if they are based on old conflicts, we get to have interesting stories and 'timeless themes' divorced from the baggage of the real earth timeline.

Like, the 60s/70s space race already happened. The present day of the setting has a NEW space race, using alien technology or superscience, as governments compete to put a man on mars/europa/ the edge of the solar system. We already have multiple heroes suggested so far that have space or aliens in their concept, so having mankind be dipping our toes into being a spacefaring civilization ties into that well.

You could have a civil rights-esq plotline involving the existence of superheroes themselves. The state basically wants to own powerful individuals, but not everyone likes the super draft. This could even tie into >>149847478 's idea, but we just set that up as something that happens in the setting's present as a mega event, perhaps on a smaller scale to start off with, instead of the past. Someone who intentionally goes around giving other people superpowers out of some kind of libertarian dream of every man being an army unto themselves makes for a fantastic wildcard to have bouncing around the setting causing chaos.

I do think that you are right about the lack of setting focus being to the thread's detriment. After this thread eventually falls off the board, I'll try and compile a more cohesive story seed for the setting to use as a foundation, and then include that and some reposts of the more coherent concepts as a foundation to build off of. I won't do it immediately, maybe a few days or a week later.

>>149846787 (OP)
This thread theme song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWPebJd64HI

>>149846799
>>149846819
>>149847190
>>149849145
>>149849947
How does that accomplish anything in this thread setting?

>>149963445
I voted for Trump. I'd do it again.
Feel free to piss and shit yourself now.

>>149846918
It's solid but also sounds like an excuse to tell women they belong in the kitchen

>>149969163
kek

>>149956314

You lost boy?

>>149846787 (OP)

Why can't we make a "Who framed Roger Rabbit?" type universe but with superheroes and comic books instead of cartoons?

>>149969994
Speak only when spoken to bitch.

>>149969994
I can't imagine being so brainrotten that you read that premise and think the goal is sexism.

>>149864033
>a bad story thats been finished is worth a hundred stories you thought about but never told.
this is beautiful anon

>>149930369
It's really quite simple for you to avoid taking inspiration from Marvel or DC comics for your new superhero setting—the ideas are right there in front of you.
>>149861378
>>149869287
>>149892174
All you have to do is read about some of the forgotten superheroes that modern audiences no longer read. Take some of their characters and stories, rewrite them, and make them your own. Redesign the characters as well to create your own unique superheroes. Treat them as if they are entirely your creation.

>>149881573
There is a lot of potential you can find in them, without following their stories. You can simply take their comic stories and change them into something else that fits your needs. You can even change the characters' designs and names to create your own. Characters like The Face, Grim Reaper, Green Lama, and Man O' War offer so much creativity. All you have to do is rewrite and redesign them.

>>149847906
How did this obscure fellow achieve this sudden popularity due to the internet surge?

>>149885244
too late last thread I literally pitch a d list villain called loli con (as in con artist).

To sum it up standard cat burglar super villain but accidentally unleashes a goddess of girls from a necklace and ass thanks it's turned into a child but anyone who's a biological parent will think that their daughter and will do anything for her

She's just a silly girl that likes money not lewd in the slightest

>>149972697
Oh shit it was just this same thread I thought it died and Y'all made a second one

well I guess I'll throw another idea out here

a series about an activist antihero who fight big Corporations that are destroying the world or causing social issues the hero is the teenage daughter of our equivalent of JJ Jameson and the whole world especially her dad is trying to figure out her identity, heroes and villains are out for her blood and she inspires a terrorist organization

tldr left punisher though she isn't fully Luigi she doesn't kill

>>149972755
>Y'all made a second one
Well howdy partner.

>>149972835
>Going after corporations
>Not governments
Weak sauce. She needs to hospitalize Kier Starmer.

>>149926742
How can you tell if some of these posts are bot post, yo?

I got a question:
What if ALLLLLL of this…was in one universe? Glorious and Lady Glorious, Stardust, Luke Snyder, married super hero and villain, deadlock,etc etc…but not in the way you expect.

Inspired from something like SMT:Nocturne, I reveal that at everyone is in one universe that is being forcibly destroyed then recreated, with anyone new carried into the new one.

A samsara of eldritch horror proportions, with the power of Nyarathotep and Azathoth…all by a 33 Year old Manchild named Danner S Hillicks, named Extincti-Son.

See he hated how his life was in the first world, probably where heroes like Stardust and the Public Domain heroes, and the first other non dc and marvel comic heroes were, and got sick of it all.
And thanks to some old school books and a cultist finding potential in him, he found a way to the high tier eldritchs.

He’s basically a god of sorts. And he wants to play with everyone like a shitty kid that likes to break his toys.

>>149975141
I don't want my shitty OC capeshit setting to have anything to do with lolicon the loli con artist

>>149974296
she does that too Arc of her totally disarming not Israel and making it very public causing their enemies to attack civilians so now she has to protect the civilians

>>149975269
>>149972835
she starts a like 14

her power is to warp space and time that how she able to go across the world while still attending high school and not causing suspicion

>>149975454
her powers are limited by she can only affect things she can see and she an untrained dumb kid

she has 100% good intentions but again a dumb kid and doesn't fully thinks out her actions

>>149975141
I don't see what this adds to the setting. It ultimately just means that nothing in the setting matters except as it pertains to Danner once the reveal is made to the audience. This sort of twist only works in a very limited story with a defined endpoint for its universe, because once you know that this one guy in particular is in charge of the whole universe there is really not a lot you can do to restore tension again after that, short of making him the antagonist and then once he is beaten the entire universe is over.

>>149847897
To be honest. I wholeheartedly agreed with you on that one.

>>149847897
>>149977317

Ideally a super-costume should be a mix between conveying what the character is about visually, as well as containing gear/utility that either plays off of those or otherwise helps them in a fight.
Characters that are bulletproof can afford to be skimpy in their costume design. Character's that are NOT bulletproof should logically have more armored-up costumes, because presumably they are not suicidal.

To me, the gold standard that hero outfits should aspire to is someething like Sky High. Sky High just can control air around him, making powerful gusts of wind or air pressure blasts. He cannot actually fly under his own power, but he can use his air control of float a bit. He combines this with a jet pack, which for most people would not be strong enough to push a human being for long enough to be useful but combined with his floating ability he can actually zip around like a rocket. The fins on his helmet and arms act as wings/rudders, helping him control his flight and change direction more easily. He has no special defensive ability beyond what any normal human has, so his suit is armored to protect him from harm.
What I like about it is not just that it looks cool, which it does, but it perfectly reflects the realities of his powerset and shows an attempt to innovate upon what his natural ability is. He doesn't just stop at the limits of his power, he uses tools are are only effective for him specifically because they are designed to take advantage of what his superpower can already do as a starting point.
And I just think that's neat.

>>149860266
Marshal Law is fucking trash

>>149977953
The superheroes in Tiger & Bunny are pretty incompetent. They are reality tv stars first, superheroes second.

Also all the women have non-protective costumes with some being incredibly impractical like the ice chicks. Only the dudes have body armor/powers suits... even the guy whose only power is "super hardening".

>>149977988
You should give it a try. It's a fun read.

>>149846799
>>149846819
What is this weird obsession with this?

>>149979725
baby's first subversion: what if good thing was bad thing?

>>149971270
I would watch it.

>>149847190
Sounds dumb.

>>149975233
Oh, wel what if lolicon just fucking died/got erased off the face of existence?
>>149976340
Huh, alright.
Hmmm what if I lowered him to be an eldritch mage and make em Deadlocks arch nemesis?