Thread 149904701

how did this show of minor and virtually unknown superheroes wound up becoming one of the most succesful and well remembered superhero cartoons?
it still manages to gather new fans to this year

The theme song

It's fun. The cast has great chemistry, too.

Incredibly strong character designs and a catchy theme song immediately grab your attention, and the mix of serious action episodes with goofy comedy episodes means that the show never really feels stale. Honestly though I don't think I can possibly oversell how strong the character designs are, it's some actual God-tier shit.

>>149904701 (OP)
They aired it to the right people at the right time.

>>149904701 (OP)
Plenty of reasons at the time stealing anime style for american cartoons was still fresh and they characters were well defined and interesting

Also teen titans go, being the popular show that it was kept them relevant

>>149904756
>stealing anime style
Retard, the show's main designer is of japanese origin

>>149904701 (OP)
>It wasn't important to ME so how could it have been popular
I'm told the severely autistic are still viable organ donors for actual humans, maybe you'll live on in several genuinely useful people after you neck yourself

>>149904798
take your meds, retard, you're tilting at windmills
I'm a huge fan of the show, it's just interesting to me how popular it is compared to shows with more well known heroes, such as The Justice League or X-Men

>>149904701 (OP)
Looking back it was kinda crap. Pales in comparison to other DS animated works around the same time. Not as fun y as Danny Phantom. Not as relatable as Kim Possible. Not as anime as Avatar. Idk.

Anime inspired artstyle, cute girls and kids who grew up on Go! wanted to see what inspired it

>>149904701 (OP)
Looking back it was kinda crap. Pales in comparison to other DC animated works around the same time (Justice League, The Batman). Not as funny and plot continuity as Danny Phantom. Not as relatable and romance oriented as Kim Possible. Not as anime and world building as Avatar. Not as violent action packed or artsy as Samurai Jack. Idk What .ade it so special or well remembered. The ending was also a giant troll and pissed off people back then, then the terrible movie was the cherry on top.

who was the worst villain in the show?
pic related for me, this idiot was just some loser in a strong suit
and he kept getting his suit wrecked anyway

>>149904987
It's good

>>149905051
Has its moments, Robin was a beast and his best iteration ever. But the whiplash from goofy to serious is kinda jarring going back to it as an adult.

Terra is shit. Should have been removed entirely.

>>149904987
Danny Phantom is garbage. Teen Titans is one of the best cartoons of the 2000s, and it's as good or better than half the DCAU.

>>149905068
Nah, the goody and serious moments are balanced

>>149905104
agreed, her whole arc was so lame, and Beast Boy was flanderized beyond belief from that point on
on season one, he was kind of a class clown and a slacker, but from then on he became a complete dumb immature loser
only in season 5 he'd come back to being a serious character

>>149904988
just a fat guy in a car
characters like Dr. Light or Killer Moth were treated as joke villains, but they imposed an actual threat

>>149905142
You're crazy. Beast Boy was always a joke. He was easily the weakest link.

>>149904840
X-Men and NTT were both wildly popular in the 80s thanks to Claremont and Wolfman having very similar mindsets (and being friends), enough that CC was able to competently write the Titans in character in the X-Men crossover book. There's nothing obscure about the property, it just hadn't been adapted yet.

>>149905134
I'll give it one thing, it had very well written core cast of characters with plenty of individual episodes for them to shine and their chemistry was amazing. I guess this is what carries it. Shame it couldn't stick the ending and it got lost.

>>149905188
I had a feeling that he was nerfed down after season 1

>>149905216
What's wrong with the ending?

>>149905242
There isn't one.

>>149905195
At a Christmas party, DC execs tried to offer Claremont writing duties on NTT if he'd leave Marvel; he just smiled and said something noncommittal but after the party he went home, called Marv and said "they're trying to fuck you over" and the execs backpedaled claiming it was a joke. I imagine Jenette Kahn had words with them about that later.

>>149904743
Always make sure to give thanks to Glenn Murakami and DJW. Those two are as important as Bruce Timm when it comes to defining character designs for generations of DC.

>>149904988
I remember feeling like every third rerun was that episode.

>>149904840
It may not have been household name popular, but it was still popular enough to have fans who grew up with it and wanted to make a show that would spread that love to a new generation.
I'm sure you have some video game or anime or cartoon you like that is popular enough to get some media but still isn't a household name, that you wish could have a new version that would make it more popular.

>>149904987
>Pales in comparison to other DC animated works around the same time (Justice League, The Batman)
fuck you. teen titans is easily better than the first 2 seasons of the justice league regardless of your opinions on unlimited.

>>149904743
Starfire's kind of interesting in that regard because I think she's got the most dramatic change from her comics design. Ditching the poofy hair was, I think, a good choice, regardless of what comics purists might say.

Although making blue one of Cyborg's main colors was another great idea.

>>149905216
Murakami's genius was saying "this is a high school class and it's going to stick to the tropes of jock (Robin), nerd (Cyborg), goth (Raven), class clown (BB), and foreign exchange student (Starfire)" because he knew the writers wouldn't lose the thread given those broad archetypes to work with. Even every other animated iteration has largely ignored Wolfman's 50+% evil Raven, self-pitying Cyborg, womanizing BB, and kind of glossed over Star's years as a sexual prisoner. Those things kind of worked in the book but lost momentum quickly.

>>149905188
>He was easily the weakest link.
as a superhero? maybe
as a character, I'd say he's one of the fan favorites, and that the TT03 is his best iteration of the character

>>149904743
This plus the characters had really great chemistry and actually felt like a real group of friends you'd want to hang out with.

>>149905334
There's a classic bit from the comic book where Vic's agreeing to teach football to disabled kids with prosthetics while he thinks the teacher's coming on to him and in the book he's humiliated to find out she's engaged; in the cartoon it's actually about him telling the kids it's not their new metal parts that makes them special and it hits home better. Likewise that bit in 'TROQ' where we all think he's going to talk about something preachy but manages to put a subtle spin on it because KIDS AREN'T STUPID.

>>149905334
Actually pretty damn genius honestly

Can we acknowledge how every other iteration of the Titans has been crap? Go the Live action, them in the DC movies and Young Justice, in the recent comics etc.

>>149905408
Someone once pointed out that Cyborg saying "I'm part robot" as his excuse for facing prejudice is actually pretty smart on his part, since Starfire's an alien and basically has no idea what Earth racism is, but discrimination based on cybernetics is easier for her to wrap her head around.

>>149905418
I liked The Judas Contract adaptation quite a bit even if it removed most of the tells Perez and Wolfman gave us about Terra.

>>149905447
I do think it's hilarious the incredible contrast between comics Terra and show Terra, where comics Terra is just an irredeemable asshole.

>>149905428
"starfire im part black, my people were considered a lower primate race and used as slaves"

>>149905428
Prior to the accident he was king shit, had an amazing future in the NFL and there's nothing black about his problems when you think about it.
When he's in human disguise to infiltrate Brother Blood's school and Star tries to tell him she prefers him as she knows him she says "I prefer the original version, friend Cyborg" to which he bitterly replies while looking away, "this IS the original version" and that's literally the ONLY moment of regret or self-pity we ever see in the series because this Vic has moved on from that.

>>149905465
The interviews with W+P about TJC open with them saying "she was supposed to be evil, not misunderstood, from the beginning. Bad teeth, swearing, smoking, fucking Deathstroke, WEARING MAKEUP" but TT was a Y7 show where most of that had to be jettisoned.

>>149905489
So you're confirming the show's decision to go with what she could understand

>>149905447
>even if it removed most of the tells Perez and Wolfman gave us about Terra.
In that she's a sociopathic whore?

>>149905281
One of the best decisions the 2003 cartoon did was to de-age the characters. The New Teen Titans were all college age—like 18 or 19. At that point, they're not really even kids anymore and should just be in the real Justice League.

>>149905334
I always assumed Cyborg was the jock and Robin was the cool kid.

>>149904988
johnny rancid
just a regular asshole

>>149905678
Yeah, them being mid teens definitely helped make them stand out compared to the plethora of young teen shows, and the fact that late teens basically feels like adults to kids.

>>149905837
This. Cyborgs the jock, and Robin is the bad boy.

>>149905428
I mean being part robot is more of a minority than being black. In the comics even his black friends shunned him.
Yes in a meta sense it’s because he’s the black one. But he would probably face more prejudice for being a modern day Frankenstein monster( hell that’s likely where his name comes from. Wolfman looked literary references)

It's hilarious how there has never been a in canon comic run with these characters as teens. People who liked the show had basically no entry point to get into the comics. The closest you had is the Johns run with Tim Drake as Robin but in that characters like Starfire and Cyborg were adults and the rest teens.

>>149904789
>Retard, the show's main designer is of japanese origin
And you can't put two and two together from that?

>>149904701 (OP)
>and well remembered

Teen Titans is only well remembered because of Teen Titans Go being spammed and getting new seasons. And the staff did use Teen Titans Go as "bait" to get people hoping the first cartoon would get a continuation. Teen Titans had artificial popularity because of this Teen Titans Go gimmick.

But I got to say Teen Titans doesn't hold up. The anime bullshit expressions are annoying. There's a lot of outright lousy episodes. And any villain who was not Slade wasn't really worthwhile. Even Ninja Turtles can do more than Shredder as a competent villain. And the main characters don't hold up.

I can't stand Cyborg for being boring. Raven for being a stand offish bitch though at least she stays away from causing problems for others. Beast Boy is outright unfunny and annoying. Starfire is not even a character she's Robin's Blowjob. And Robin is an annoying Mini Late DCAU Batman Gary Stu.

I don't like that Donna was left out.

>>149906758
You're retarded. Most people only know these characters from the Teen Titans show. Cyborg's booyah from the Justice League movie was put in because people expected it, and that came from the cartoon.

>>149906758
Shit taste

>>149906042
That's the point

>>149906758
>And any villain who was not Slade wasn't really worthwhile.
Fuck you Mad Mod was the fucking GOAT.

Reminder that the Teen Titans franchise peaked here

>>149906922
TTG makes my skin crawl. The characters are all entirely different from the original, and the plot is like a nightmare of cliche '80s sitcom ideas.

>>149906796
My best guess is because of WW being in JL at the time, and Donna somehow getting embargoed because of that.
Because surely she would have at least done a guest episode or two like Aqualad otherwise.
But then again, Kid Flash did show up, even though Wally was the Flash in JL.

>>149904701 (OP)
And WB STILL hasn't made a TT movie based on the original series despite it being a no-brainer homerun. Fuck's sake.

>>149906954
>a TT movie based on the original series
Boy do I have good news for you.

>>149906954
Maybe if we're lucky they will make it and its a super expensive......FAILURE.

We need this to fail so that Warner Bros dies.

>>149906944
You're getting upset over modern day Looney Tunes, get over yourself

>>149906944
>TT makes my skin crawl. The characters are all entirely different from the original, and the plot is like a nightmare of cliche anime ideas.

>>149904701 (OP)
>minor and virtually unknown superheroes
new teen titans was one of the best selling DC comics of the 80s
they were only sorta-unknown to the general public, but they were not minor characters at all

>>149907008
I tried reading this, and it wasn't that good. I didn't like that Cyborg was the angry black man.

>>149907019
I don't know why /co/ doesn't understand this, but nobody reads comics. It's an extremely niche medium. People's only exposure to Teen Titans characters prior to 2003 were the various incarnations of Robin and the 1985 season of Super Friends with Cyborg in it.

>>149907070
>It's an extremely niche medium.
new teen titans sold in the hundreds of thousands
thats several times what actual niche mediums sell
they werent superman famous, but unknown is a stretch, since thats still a significant number of people who have seen raven and starfire

>>149906944
>The characters are all entirely different from the original
Why is this a bad thing? The 2003 Titans were entirely different from the original.

>>149907141
>The 2003 Titans were entirely different from the original.
they werent that different, they were mostly just exaggerating 1 or 2 character traits to make them more memorable but otherwise stayed on path

>>149907141
Holy crap, because they're voice by the same actors, decked out in the same costume, and overall part of the same setting.
>UMM AKSHUALLY IT'S AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT UNIVERSE
Shut the fuck up. You know what I mean. You can take DC characters, put them in an entirely new show and setting, and no one will complain if they act different. But Teen Titans Go is identical to Teen Titans in all the big ways.

>>149905195
>>149904840
Teen Titans is very obviously the biggest comics property that hasn't been adapted to a live-action movie. Seems stupid they haven't done a movie yet when it's literally the only DC IP that millennials and zoomers watched as kids. Somehow Suicide Squad has two movies though.

>>149907174
>they werent that different
Bro, they destroyed Starfire and Beast Boy in the cartoon.

>>149905183
Didn't he get one shot in the finale because he drove straight ahead like an idiot?

>>149907232
>It's that episode where Robin keeps hallucinating that Slade is back and literally beats the fucking shit out of himself and starts coughing up blood
Man when the show wanted to get serious it could get real fucking serious.

>>149907198
I don't remember something like this in the 2003 cartoon

>>149907174
I haven't even read that much of NTT, but I don't think that's true.
-TT Robin is driven and takes after Batman, whereas NTT Robin is more trying to prove himself
-TT Cyborg is jolly and ribs at people, whereas NTT Cyborg has a chip on his shoulder
-TT Raven is a gloomy, introverted goth girl with trust issues, whereas NTT Raven is an all-knowing witch that guides things from the shadows
-TT Starfire is bright eyed, cheerful, and naive, whereas NTT Starfire is warlike and slutty
Beast Boy isn't that different, though.

>>149907299
That's exactly the point. They didn't take the DC characters Robin, Starfire, Beast Boy, Cyborg, and Raven and make them different; they took the 2003 Teen Titans characters Robin, Starfire, Beast Boy, Cyborg, and Raven and made them different.

>>149907284
Did they actually show blood?

>>149907240
starfire in the comics has most of the traits that 2003 starfire has
she is both a hot-blooded warrior and a sweet girl and tones down the former as the comic goes on
the 2003 version just exaggerated the fish out of water aspect of her character, which was also present in the comic, so that she would have an easily grasped archetype

beastboy was also a jokester in the new teen titans from pretty much issue 1, the 2003 show just exaggerated that into being a full on prankster because it created an easy niche for him to fill on the team and made it easier for kids to grasp what he brings to the team in just one episode

it was a very pragmatic adaptation to fit the goofier tone, younger audience, and more self-contained episodes of the show

>>149907232
Have they done anything with Red X in the comics? Or does he overlap with Red Hood too much?

>>149907363
He was brought in the comics
We dont talk about it

>>149907325
It's been a while but from what I remember yes, during the scene where they're fighting on some scaffolding. If I remember right Robin also hacks up what's either blood or vomit just out of the camera shot.

>>149904701 (OP)
It's kinda shitty except for the episodes with Mad Mod. Love that guy.
>Season 1
Slade is a shit villain. Robin's red x plan made no sense and it makes no sense that Slade knew Red X was Robin
>Season 2
The Titans let Terra roam the streets, knowing Slade is after her. Then they're surprised when Slade captures her. Terra in general is a poorly written character.
>Season 3
Brother Blood is an even more underwhelming "big bad" than Slade. Dude is so mindbroken by cyborg his entire plan revolves around ripping off his tech. His name may as well be brother cuck.
>Season 4
Slade is back... again! This is probably the best season but I haven't finished it yet
>Season 5
Haven't watched but I've heard it ends on a massive cliffhanger.

>>149907302
>whereas NTT Cyborg has a chip on his shoulder
he starts out that way, but he gets more jovial as NTT goes on
teen titans turns him into a boisterous jock from day 1, exaggerating his later characterization, but he still mostly has the same "man vs machine" conflicts in several of his episodes

>TT Starfire is bright eyed, cheerful, and naive, whereas NTT Starfire is warlike and slutty
same with cyborg, she is much more hot-blooded at the start, but she mellows out after the first several issues and starts to adopt a more playful and caring attitude
teen titans just uses that later characterization and exaggerates it, but it is still part of her character in the comic

>>149907400
Nope

>>149907237
You kinda need to do the justice league before Titans and they can’t figure out JL

>>149907409
yes

>>149907237
>when it's literally the only DC IP that millennials and zoomers watched as kids.
What, the DCAU was targeted straight at Millennials. Every kid I know grew up with Batman TAS, Beyond, and both Justice League series.

>>149907442
Wrong

>>149906944
>>149907008
>They turned Beast Boy into a wigger

And I never watched another episode since.

>>149907539
Stop talking shit

>>149907548
No

>>149907580
So you admit it?

>>149907455
I think he meant BOTH millennials and zoomers.
But even then I say that JL/U still falls under that.

>>149904701 (OP)
Robin is more famous than Captain America.

>>149907455
>>149907605
zoomers don't really care about the DCAU/JL that much compared to Titans. Like it isn't disliked, it's just that Titans was way more popular with that generation

>>149907848
I mean, Teen Titans was made for children, and it came out in an era when the earliest zoomers were children. Meanwhile, Justice League was a bit more mature, and it had established lore dating back to the '90s, when zoomers weren't even alive.

>>149904701 (OP)
>most succesful and well remembered superhero cartoons?
Because its spinoff is still getting new episodes

>>149908149
I guess we never get to see more of them, huh. How saddo.

>>149906954
>You want a TT movie? Okay, here we go

>>149906922
this AMV at leasts paints a fantasy of this being a serious movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYsdJuAY0hY

>>149905259
DJW did gods work here. No disrespect but I don't like when he handles non-humans (TFA or Ben 10 Omniverse). He did nice work on Scooby Doo Mystery Inc too.

>>149907008
TT is a new iteration. TTG is a spinoff so expectations is that it is closer ro TT than TT is to the comics.

>>149909080
>serious movie
Most of 2003 TT wasn't serious and Trouble in Tokyo wasn't a serious movie.

>>149907299
A better example would be the fart or inflation fetish episodes

>>149909815
Retard

>>149909890
Not an argument

>its a mad mod episode
>its a raven birthday episode
>its a brother blood episode
>its a killer moth episode
>its a doom patrol episode
>its a scary raven episode
>its a blackfire episode
>its a robin on his own episode
>its a future timeline episode

>>149904701 (OP)
Right time right place + stood out with it’s anime influence and puffy amiyumi singing the theme song + unlike other Capeshit cartoons at the time, this was more of an episodic show with a mix of both serious and funny episodes instead of just a massive ongoing serious plot.

>>149910155
But people love massive ongoing serious plots

>>149910019
The stakes were high. Comic relief does not mean the movie is not serious.

>>149910522
do people seriously believe a movie has to be a single mood or tone the entire way?

Raven is hot

Funny how they intended for Starfire to be the hot chick and Raven the introverted gloomy chick but Raven ended up being both the hot chick and more.

>>149910748
>>149910552
They gave Raven an hourglass figure and bare legs.

>>149910522
The stakes were high with Trigon and The Brain. Daizo was a joke compared to them. And TTG Slade mind-controlled The Justice League and everyone else around the world. The stakes were big.

Ron fucking Perlman as Slade/Deathstroke. An all-time great voice casting. It bugs me that Perlman never voiced Deathstroke in anything else, I love his take on the character.

Although Deathstroke himself goes through a bit of a permutation in the show, TT Slade is more of an evil mastermind type than a merc.

>>149910831
Oh yeah!

Outside of that she was also way more mature and interesting as character. Starfire was way too stereotypical anime girl but that was intentional.

>>149910994
They really do give her some nice hips in canon, don't they? AND bigger breasts than Starfire. Starfire vs Raven is basically /fit/ vs fat in terms of your preferences. And there are some people who like a sporty girl.

>>149904987
>>149905216
>>149905254
Teen Titans has a fantastic ending but because morons didn't get the point of the final episode they think it sucks since it "ends the show on a cliffhanger"

>>149911140
Explain it to me. What made it so good?

>>149910890
Easily my favorite villain DC cartoons, simply because of how well Ron Perlman portrayed him. I even like it better than Mark Hamil's portrayal of the Joker.

>>149910890
>TT Slade is more of an evil mastermind type
Was he? He didn't have a real plan.

>>149908936
Yeah, I guess so.

I'm not one of the fans who was really invested in this show, just a casual watcher. But I rewatched two episodes and man, those 2 episodes had more interesting and dynamic storyboarding choices than like the entire season of Caped Crusader. And back then it wasn't considered masterful, just decently competent or good.

>>149904987
Danny Phantom sucks ass as an action show and it doesn't nearly have as much effort in the visuals. None of this is highbrow stuff so the surface does really matter

>>149907019
Yeah and in 2003 that and a dime would get you 1/10th of a coke.

>>149904701 (OP)
>HEY KIDS! WE HAVE ANIME HERE IN AMERICA TOO! CHECK OUR JAPANESE SINGERS!
Literally this.

>>149907232
>it's a comedy episode filled with anime wanabe faces

>>149913341
I will not stand by this Danny Phantom slander. It was a great show. All it's creator autism aside.

>>149904701 (OP)
Robin’s not unknown what the fuck are you talking about?

>>149907008
Y’know Cyborg’s original design is kinda lame looking at it now.

>>149913665
The cartoon's decision to give him a heavy blue-color element is a stroke of genius. It makes his design much more pleasant.

>>149904701 (OP)
Depending on when you grew up you might think of the original series as a big deal but it was Teen Titans GO that was actually a huge deal.

Original Teen Titans was just a random show Cartoon Network had along with a bunch of other, but Teen Titans GO was like the Spongebob of Cartoon Network that got it's own movie and they could just spam on the channel endlessly.

>>149913785
>Pink Steven Universe ruined an almost perfect yellow schedule
Just like in his show

>>149913785
>>149913802
It should be pointed out this was an age before widespread Internet. So for a burgeoning weeaboo without much access to Internet the show had a bunch of of references to Japanese culture.

I mean pic-related the Japanese duo who gave us the Teen Titans theme practically got their own show just off the back of the Teen Titans intro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QQHI0V1PtI&list=RD-QQHI0V1PtI&start_radio=1

On top of that the show gave us Raven and Starfire.. Put 2 female coombaits with different personalities in your show and the Internet will argue for years over who is the best.
>Raven or Starfire
>Daphne or Velma
>Leela or Army
>Betty or Veronica

>>149913848
>REI OR ASUKA WHO IS BEST GIRL DESU DESU?

>>149913848
Raven obviously, then Jinx, then Blackfire

>TTG was the only thing holding cartoon network together for years
>the two Teen Titans DCAMU movies actually sold pretty decently, on par with many of the Batman ones
>the Titans live action show apparently had pretty good viewing numbers despite being shit
>Young Justice had enough fanfare to be brought back twice

>something about TT03 goes viral on twitter or tiktok every other week
>X-Men 97 was a hit, proving nostalgia bait can still win
>Teen Titans movie is stuck in development hell because there is a Robin so it has to rely on Batman's movie coming out first and execs are having a seizure over there being two different Batman movies

>WB doesn't give Teen Titans another cartoon

Why is WB so dumb?
Even just calling it New Titans and having it be a soft reboot (instead of a continuation) with Dick as Nightwing, Donna, and a wildcard character seems like a no brainer.

>>149904701 (OP)
>>149904709
The theme song does rock. The characters gel well together and you don’t need to know anyone’s backstory as they’re wearing it on their faces. Also is funny and well written satire of teen titans.

>>149913877
>Nightwing, Donna, and a wildcard character
2003 fans will hate it. They want a perfect copy of the 2003 show.

>>149913904
>>149904709
Danny Phantom's theme song was better

>>149913904
Even if you're a /pol/tard who hates niggers they managed to write Cyberg well enough that he didn't seem like an annoying DEI inclusion.

>>149913919
I mean he's literally part of the original cast. Getting mad at him would be like getting mad at them including Barret in the FF7 remake, you'd basically have to be straight up retarded. Speaking of which, >>149913848 >>149913860
>Aerith vs Tifa

>>149913860
Panty vs Stocking?

>>149913978
This was never really a debate, Stocking's just overwhelmingly more popular. And I say that as a Pantyfag.

>>149905183
DDD did mog robin until the very end, which was fun.

>>149905408
i think in the cartoon tie in that was sarah simms teaching the kids, and he got a qt gf out of it

>>149911162
not him, but technically the episode before it where they defeat the brotherhood was the ending. things change was just capping things off because it was a BB season, and you can't really finish without acknowledging terra.

>>149913919
cyborg became my favourite on a rewatch. he's just such a bro

>>149913370
Fag

>>149913978
Kneesocks is better than both of them.

>>149913919
Shit episode for starfire. Good moment for Cyborg. Star deserved better.

>>149913848
I liked when they came back for this special https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kJ8vU-Fb9M

>>149914636
It's weird how Starfire simultaneously feels sidelined in the show but also got some of the most memorable episodes. The Blackfire introduction, the puberty FLCL-sendup, and the time travel one to the future stand out in particular.

>>149904987
>The ending was also a giant troll and pissed off people back then
you mean it pissed off you, because you got filtered

>>149904701 (OP)
At the time dc animation could do no wrong. And it was also in a place where anime was becoming more popular in the west. Designs were good, voice cast was great, action was cool and it did a good mix of storytelling action and comedy well for thr time. Perfect storm desu, it will never happen again.

>>149911162
>What made it so good
beast boy finally growing up. It was literally deep, for a series directed at teenagers and children. I cringe myself when I say this, but nowadays semi-serious series need to spell out everything to the audience, it wasnt like that back then

>>149915041
TTG did a better Blackfire introduction

>Ok so hear me out
>What if we made a show that followed a modern trend
>Gave the characters actually appealing designs
>Put effort into the animation
>Made it a mix of action and comedy that knew how to handle both sides well
>Gave everyone great voice actors
>And made the core cast have great dynamics with each other
>And then get this, we write episodes based around their characters instead of just using canned plots
It's really just that simple

>>149914160
You can finish it without acknowledging her. The characters and the audience both moved on from her and her arc already. At least when she was in stone there was always the hope that she would come out eventually and be friends with the Titans again now that Slade had no influence on her anymore. With Things Change that all goes to shit and it led to an ending that has left fans bitching and moaning for almost 20 years. That finale wasn’t worth it, should’ve ended the show with the episode before that one.

Kim Possible was so much better

>>149915142
I don't think those shows are really comparable outside of the fact they both have action sequences. They're going for totally different things.

>>149915160
TT wanted to have its cake and eat it too with the shipping.

>>149915122
Don't forget that while they did make changes to the original stories like Judas Contract, they still adapted them faithfully enough NOT to piss off the comic boomers.

>>149915207
But comic boomers didn't like the show

>>149915122
I really do love how they genuinely feel like a group of real friends. So many shows fuck that up with their core cast and you wonder why X character even tolerates Y, but with TT it all makes perfect sense.

Teen Titans 03 is incredibly overrated.

>>149915254
Cope

>>149915029
Kino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9yeFa9N_ws

>>149910748
They made Starfire too weird and gave her a fairly freaky body. She was the one who got the pseudo-puberty episode.

>>149904701 (OP)
>minor
Given my immediately previous post, it makes a lot of sense.

>>149913919
You need to lean into the Frankenstein thing with him.

>>149913919
I miss the age I wasn't bothered by blacks on stuff because it wasn't forced and the characters were good so much you could forgot about they being black. I loved Static Shock.

>>149910107
where are you going with this?

>>149916110
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiKOuJHXPdg
YOU WANT BLACKS WELL LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT BLACKS IN OUR SHOW!

It's all so tiring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Z17398tM8

>>149915254
>>149915314
Incredible? Not really. But I think that it's a bit overrated.
A hugely overrated show is Ben 10.

>>149916308
retard

>>149916379
Cry about it.

>>149916308
People shit on Ben 10 all the time. There is nothing but praise for 2003 TT. TT is more overrated.

>>149916292
I'm not sure what those videos have to do with anything

>>149916386
Fag

>>149916437
>People shit on Ben 10 all the time
Wrong

>>149916437
>People shit on Ben 10 all the time
If you live in a powerscalers' bubble, yes.

If you leave that bubble, no.

>>149916437
>There is nothing but praise for 2003 TT
just look at the thread and you'll see a lot of demeaning comments about it

>>149910890
I posted this in a thread before but nowadays I appreciate Slade being a mastermind in this iteration because it places a greater focus on how far ahead he is above the Titans (and Terra if you want to count). Deathstroke isn't just physically enhanced.
>>149911140
>>149915103
Beast Boy's development is really good cause he goes from annoying jokester to a lighthearted but mellow fellow after learning that sometimes you gotta be serious. I think the encounter with Terra showed him this.

>>149916696
Slade didn't have a fucking plan. He was a Mastermind of nothing.

>>149904701 (OP)
Because it had mature themes and sexy female characters

>>149916736
Slade's plan was to act so much like he had a plan that he convinced everyone he had an incredible unstoppable plan, to the point that people that watched the show also think that he had a plan. It's kind of a brilliant plan, a plan to have no plan.

>>149915138
>>149914160
Teen Titans ends with Trouble in Tokyo. And it was a bad movie, but it at least ended with Starfire and Robin finally getting together and kissing.

>>149904701 (OP)
They did Superhero + anime before it was cool.

>>149916758
>Act ultra-confindent and as though you have some kind of grand over-reaching plot
>Actually have nothing going on and you're just jumping from scheme to scheme hoping something works while you psyche out a bunch of teenagers about this big plan you totally have
The definition of a based retard

>>149904701 (OP)
Here's an article about the writing:
https://animationobsessive.substack.com/p/writing-teen-titans

>>149904701 (OP)
Kids fucking love Robin. They always have and always will. It doesn't matter if comic writers hate Robin. It doesn't matter if cartoon writers hate Robin. It doesn't matter if live action writers hate Robin. Kids love Robin because he's an exception to the kid sidekick rule, because while kids also want to be Batman, Robin is cool enough that kids can also imagine being Robin kicking ass fighting crime alongside Batman. So Teen Titans was just "oh cool, Robin has a bunch of friends doing cool stuff together!" and that was the initial hook that kids needed to get into it.

>>149916758
>>149917426
I play a lot of board and card games, and I'm really fucking bad at bluffing, to such a degree that I become extremely hard to read, because I will become a giggly bitch when pressed about anything, so even when I have nothing going on, they think I do and make bad plays based on it, and they end up not being able to trust any information from me.

>Saturday circa 2005
>Gorillaz and Green Day on MTV
>New episodes of Teen Titans, Megas XLR, and Samurai Jack
>Staying up late to watch anime on Adult Swim
It was truly a mood

>>149917514
It also helps that Teen Titans Robin was badass. He was Batman, if Batman were a good leader.

Sam Register specifically wanted a lighter-hearted superhero show because he was tired of how dark and serious CN had become.

>>149906952
If I am not mistaken, the rule for WW was that she had to be a main character for her to appear. Teen Titans & The Batman (2004) both were barred from WW content due to wanting a cameo or one episode rather than having them being a main player in the show.

>>149905104
>Terra joins the team
>Literally no episodes where she actually is part of the team.
What is the point of her?

>no gratuitous Raven and Starfire feet episodes

And that's why TTG is superior.

>>149904701 (OP)
Appealing characters in design, characterization, and interactions, capable of both comedy and serious action

>>149918421
The second lady legasus episode was pretty good

Why is DC's editorial so against Robin and Starfire as a couple, despite them being the more popular pairing in the eyes of fans?

>>149904701 (OP)
great sound design as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0qGLcbprUQ

>>149904701 (OP)
>minor and virtually unknown superheroes
>robin front and center

>>149920183
Because they don't want people with super powers in the Batfamily

>>149905242
Feels too unconclusive

>>149907237
>Somehow Suicide Squad has two movies though.
"We want the GotG audience" + Joker adjacent

>>149920266
Robin (and everyone Batman related) deserves that. Fuck that stupid self-insert.

>>149918112
The physical stunts teen titans Robin pulls off are legitimately insane, he's fucking ragdolling people and going for flying knees and shit constantly, it's brutal and awesome to watch. He's technically the only guy without powers on the team but you never feel like he's not pulling his weight, he's the clear leader and leads by example

>>149920618
>they don't want people with super powers in the Batfamily
didn't DC editorial literally come up with some diversity quota literal whos and then UNIRONICALLY TURNED THEM INTO DISCOUNT SUPERMAN with Platinum Kryptonite which literally gives somebody the full powers of a Kryptonian making them equal to Superman?

then there's the Failsafe shit where Batman's tower of babel contingency for himself is an android who can solo the entire justice league.. there's superpowered bat-family members, Bat editorial are just retarded hypocrites

>>149918112
>>149922469
2003 Robin (and most versions of Batman) is on par with trashy isekai anime protags where the entire world contorts itself to make him look the greatest person to ever live. GO Robin is more realistic.

>>149904701 (OP)
I know it's a meme on /co/ to be contrarian and hate on the original show and dicksuck TTG, but it was legitimately a really good show. Better than half of DCAU, unironically.

>>149922469
He was also somehow able to consistently damage Cinderblock, who is supposed to have a body of concrete, using nothing but his hands and feet.

>>149922807
And, I mean, TTG sucks. It truly and honestly is unwatchable garbage.

>>149922522
Batwank is one of the worst things that happened to DC. They should make a GO version of the Justice League where Batman gets constantly mocked, bullied and beaten by Flash, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, etc. Superman should be his only actual friend.

>>149923391
The first four seasons and the movie are decent

>>149923391
I found it more like a ridiculously mixed bag when I tried to watch it. Some episodes were funny as fuck, others were just downright fucking shit. Like there was no quality control on the scripts or something.

>>149923462
>>149922618
Everyone loves Batman. He's easily the most popular superhero to ever exist.

>>149923462
Batman is why DC hasnt been deleted from existence yet, they dont need to treat him like Marvel treats Spider-man which is only being partially saved by Sony

>>149920183
literally editorial mandate and batfamily entitlement

they had originally planned to have starfire and nightwing get married in a milestone issue of teen titans
but then DC decided that, since nightwing had become so popular in the teen titans, he should go back to batman
so they re-wrote the wedding to have it end with no "I do"s, they rebranded it so fast that later issues still mention nightwing and starfire being married
once all bridges with the titans had been burned, nightwing crawls back to daddy bats, gets barbara gordon as a love interest since she is a bat character, and he never really spends any time with starfire again

>>149923902
>>149923962
If people love Batman, then they should love a non-gary stu version of the character

>>149924153
>If people love Sherlock Holmes, they should love him even if he doesn't solve mysteries.

>>149924305
>People love Batman because he can beat gods and survive falling to earth from space and shit
Then they don't love Batman

>>149924153
Batman isnt a Gary Stu

Good show + hot girls. It literally prints money.

>>149924153
Counterpoint: DC is a superhero comics company

>>149924486
He's a Gary Stu the small minority of time, but it's perfectly fine when he is.

>>149924486
>

>>149924556
There are plenty of non Batman related heroes

>>149924490
Raven was pure sex.

>>149904701 (OP)
Not gonna lie, as much as I liked this series as a kid, I wish the Teen Titans franchise and we as a society could move on from it.

>>149925156
It will never happen

>>149920183
Because the Titans are garbage in the comics? I'm a Dick Grayson fan but he has zero good Titans stories. He's been way better off in the Batman comics for decades.

>>149925156
Why? The 2003 cartoon was unarguably the best incarnation of the characters. I'm not disparaging New Teen Titans, but the characters are just much, much better written in the cartoon than in the original. Like, holy crap, anyone who can say with a straight face they prefer '80s Raven to 2000s Raven is a complete liar.

>>149917266
I wouldn't call it bad, just mediocre
Robin's story was pretty great, they just failed to balance it with the rest of the team

>>149925418
80s Starfire is far better than 2003 Star tho

I loved this show, and always shipped Beast Boy and Raven so bad for no real reason
aside from a couple of episodes of them bonding, they were never presented as a potential couple, and I never really read the comics, so the only source material I could base myself on was the show
it was strange to me, years later, coming into the Internet to find out many people shared the same affection for the alleged "couple" that I did

>>149925418
I get it anon, you LOOOVED the Teen Titans cartoon, but completely ignoring the quality, I'm just kinda fucking tired of it.
Like, the current longest running DC show is TTG, a more comedic adaptation of an adaptation of the TT comic.
I don't want Teen Titans to forever just be the versions we're all familiar with thanks to the 2003 cartoon, I want something new in adaptations, either something more faithful to the comics, or something more different, I've had enough of the versions of the Titans that the 2003 cartoon gave us, I'm ready to move on.
Also, actually put Donna Troy in it.

>>149925418
Spoken like a true secondary.

>>149926003
I feel the complete opposite
wish we could have had a season 6 and more
just can't seem to move on from the show

>>149926083
>wish we could have had a season 6 and more

>>149926029
>>149926003
>something more faithful to the comics
Comics are objectively garbage, and this isn't a matter of opinion or debate. /co/ is literally seething itself into an early grave because of garbage like One More Day, while continuing to ignore the root of the problem: comics don't end. They go on forever and ever and ever. These characters will never obtain happiness or rest or peace. They'll never have consistency or integrity, because the story has to continue, and plot twists have to happen when sales are down. So from my perspective, you're the secondary. The source material are the various adaptations made by skilled writers who truly understood what these characters should be. That's why comics are constantly stealing from the movies and cartoon shows.

>>149924153
This feels really weird, not because of the fight, but because they are fighting in the first place

>>149926133
It's kinda funny how some fans of comic book adaptations are always so disdainful towards comic books.

>>149926133
Okay, comics suck, whatever, my point still stands that I want something new man, I would very much like a new adaptation that did something different from the TT 2003 show.

>>149926029
>>149926003
>>149926264
Hey, remember how they literally set up a decade of Dick and Kory romance? Remember how they were actually going to get married? Remember how that turned out? Yeah, shut the fuck up with your "faithful to the comics" bullshit. The 1990s X-Men cartoon was very faithful to the tone of the comics, which is why it's a complete trainwreck of melodrama, unresolved plotlines, and deferred resolution.

The only comics worth reading are the ones that exist in their own continuity and can't be fucked with, like The Dark Knight Returns.

>>149926302
I was with you on your first post, but now I just think you should take your meds.

>>149904701 (OP)
Anecdotal answer: all of capeshitters cartoons at that time from Batman, Supersman, Justice League, etc, took themselves way too seriously while somehow being obnoxiously, nauseatingly boring. The actions sucked, the dialogue sucked, it did nothing to draw you in. TT on the other hand allowed for expressive action and animation with characters who had more personality than your accountant who does taxes and goes bowling on Friday.

>>149926378
>who had more personality than other forms of media where characters were about as interesting as your accountant who does taxes and goes bowling on Friday.

>>149907002
Looney Tunes had a grown man screaming in agony as loud as he possibly could, ttg is NOT the same

>>149926317
I'm sorry, I should take my meds because I'm mad that comics break up a decade strong couple right as they're about to get married? Explain that one to me, anon. I really want to hear how you justify this.

>>149926264
It's just the fans of 2003 TT. You don't see the fans of the DCAU or other cartoon adaptations shitting on the comics like the TT faggots. That is why i'm gland they made Teen Titans GO instead of more 2003 Teen Titans.

>>149926525
They're just drawings man, if you get mad at such trivial things, then maybe you do need some meds.

>>149926530
>You don't see the fans of the DCAU or other cartoon adaptations shitting on the comics like the TT faggots
Yes, you do. Because cape comics are almost universally trash. You can act as smug as you want, but the mere fact that they don't end, yet exist in an ongoing continuity means they're inherently inferior.

>>149926585
Fag

>>149926585
There is literally no point in fiction without emotional investment. And I don't hear you telling anyone to move on from OMD.

>>149904701 (OP)
its cause they turned Dick Grayson from the Batman sidekick with a terrible costume and color scheme butt of every joke into a fucking badass AND kept the stupid color scheme but designed the costume to be cool
Robin is the heart of this show

>>149926769
The color scheme is king you fag

>>149926769
We get it, you self-insert as Robin.

>>149926790
green red and yellow is disgusting
this has been the ONLY time Robins outfit has looked good
ONLY this show and nothing else

>>149926798
the mask makes me feel cool too

>>149905837
>>149905877
Yeah cyborg was the one reminiscing of playing football

>>149922850
>flying kicks and roundhouses with reinforced steel plates on the toes and back of the heels
>metal staff swung like a baseball bat at faces, necks, back of the skull, joints
it works

how did they afford to live and pay for stuff?
was it subsidized? did they receive a government allowance for their work saving the city? or did they have Wayne cash backing it up fully?

It was a decent show for its genre and people who grew up with it have rose tinted glasses about it. This was passed on to zoomers who wanted to give the impression that they have good taste for "liking" the show

>>149927001
>raven spies on various financial communities with portals
>robin has a solid grasp on stocks from living with bruce
>cyborg manages their accounts while his body charges at night and hes left immobile

>>149926805
Fag

>>149927032
nah it holds up the same way atla holds up
which im sure youre also too good for you soulless grey business man

>>149917266
>>149925767
It was mainly the animators busting one last nut to anime culture. The story was more a reason to jump from one trope to another.

>>149927032
>Saying this while posting the most overrated VN of the decade

>>149927001
The city govt pays them to stay and protect the city.
The ROI must be crazy. Pay a pittance to have 5 super powered teenagers protect your city far more effectively than the tens of billions of $$$ that some countries spend on their militaries

>>149927119
I never said it was a bad show you simpelton, I said it was decent but it gets glazed mostly because the show's fans have nostalgia goggles on and zoomies want to pretend liking it means they can claim to have "taste". I was an adult when this show aired and it came off to me more as a poor attempt at imitating anime with DC characters

>>149927465
There are literally dozens of superhero cartoons, and virtually none of them are still talked about after they end.
>The Batman
>Justice League Action
>X-Men: Evolution
Why is it so hard for you to admit that Teen Titans was something special?

>>149927579
People talk about Teen Titans because they made TTG

>>149904701 (OP)
kids realized how bad teen titans go was, so they started watching the og.

>>149927612
Not to mention that people also still talk about Batman TAS and Justice League to this day still. Teen Titans isn't unique in regards to its longevity

>>149927941
All you're proving is that the DCAU is exceptional as well.

>>149928247
People still talk about Teen Titians primarily because a subset of retards keep whining about TTGo, not because it was an exceptional show

>>149927612
>>149928278
No one gives a fuck about TTGo.
People talk about TT because they want to talk about TT.
At best you can say that TTGo introduced a younger generation to the characters and old show, in turn keeping the discussion alive because they checked out the show, just like the plethora of youtube videos about the DCAU did for those shows.

>>149904701 (OP)
I loved Batman TAS and Justice League growing up, but this shit was just too cringe for me. At that point I was watching proper anime, so anything TT tried to do anime related just came off as terribly gay. Also, I had spent a decade of my life watching Superman and Batman be awesome - why would I want to watch a bunch of nobodies?

Long story short, it always seemed lame to me and it seems it’s only lasting appeal was that gooners liked the girls.

T! E! E!

N!

T! I! T!

A-N-S TEEN!

TI-TANS!

LET'S GO!

>>149928836
>T! I! T!

>>149905489
> "That's TERRIBLE, my friend! It sounds as though you were treated as though you were as lowly as the Glor-Poknoids of Tamarand who exhibit discolored exo-tissue and are prone to impulsive, violent, and narcissistic behavior while showing a lack of empathy and higher understanding. It's often joked that if despite making up 12% of our population, if left to their own devices they would inevitably contribute to 52% of all murders and 90% of all violent crimes. But there couldn't possibly be a species fitting that description here on Earth."
>>149907008
>>149907027
The original Teen Titans run was better and you can't change my mind.
>>149911140
I appreciate what they did with it, but I think a series finale should probably focus on the whole main cast not just resolve BB's arc.

>>149913969
No, the original cast is:
> Robin
> Aqualad
> Kid Flash
> Wonder Girl

>>149915138
This is true. They technically ended Terra's plot with the statue thing where they give her a plaque. It was cool seeing her come back, but they didn't really explain if it was her or what it was about. It was just sort of a bittersweet episode to capture the bittersweet feeling of the series being over.

>>149915744
It unironically inspired the Star Vs puberty episode. I think if they had done it more like that show's it would've been better received.

>>149917514
/Thread

>>149924107
As it should be.

Are the GO comics that follow the 03 team any good? Im interested because people say its basically a follow up to the show or at least the idea of adding more members

>>149924153
That's the worst version of Superman.

>>149905418
Young Justice is good and I won't accept this slander. It's a good serial where every episode the world unfolds in front of you and understand why these heroes interact with the people they do. They do add a little too much to the cast, and It's anthology setup was a little too all over the place, but almost every character is fun.

>>149927001
Robin, Beast Boy, and Cyborg all have trust funds.

>>149927579
People still talk about Evolution

>>149928985
I realized after I posted it.

>>149914160
I hate that DC wants to pretend he belongs on the Justice League.

>>149904752
It is crazy how much this applies for everything that's a 5/10 and greater. A lot of variables change a show into an unmatched forgotten media. A poor ad campaign. Other things releasing at that time and eyes being on the other thing. People will always look for content to consume so missed gems will always resurface though.

>>149907237
As a big DC fan, DC movies are a bust. They should have had a better plan going in. We have like 3 different universes since 2010. It's embarrassing.

>>149913341
Are you high?

>>149916308
Ben 10 was fucking sick as a 10 year old boy. That was it's strength. Overrated? Yes. But it can not be ignored that Alien Force and Ultimate Alien are possibly singular (as an ip) to be the only show that ever ages up sequel series with the fans. While all 3 are not that good, nor the shitty later series, together they are a crazy enjoyable experience over the 6ish years they aired. Worldbuilding and characters wise.

>>149929183
>not even one argument
Danny Phantom isn't the bottom of the barrel but it's also too boring and plain overall in the ambition of its concept, the writing, and animation of action scenes to compete at the upper-middle and above levels of past western cartoons worth the time to watch

>>149918112
In a meta way, Nightwing starting to being written as a good leader is the ultimate fulfillment to Batman's character. Bruce raised a son that isn't broken like him. Although I do say it's okay to flip a coin to decide if your Bruce's endgame is happiness or being "broken" for his story run.

>>149926790
To reiterate anons point. It helps it doesn't show his legs like a flamer. And also, the color scheme is more muted in the show.

>>149905142
They're all flanderized. Raven is bitchy 90% of the time and Starfire is a ditzy alien 90% of the time. Is fun.

>>149905418
I was there to kick rocks at YJ when it deserved it, but what YJ was trying to do in reaching out to its larger scale world and clusters of characters strung on a continually serialized story as much as possible (and then eating shit for it) was very different from what TT03 was aiming for. I hesitate to recc YJ to anyone but I think there is value in something being able to grasp at that much starting ambition despite the problems

>>149907237
I feel that way for TT and Static Shock, like Static just faded out when he could've been their ''Miles'' before Miles existed but hes an actual good character with an identity of his own, yet no live action or anything really
I guess its a rights issue, also think he would fit better on JL than Cyborg because I like his interactions with Batman/Superman from the cartoon

>>149929212
I'll have to rewatch and see if it absolutely doesn't hold up. I respect your greentext, I do anon, but I don't have to take the argument that Danny Phantom is a bad show seriously.

>>149907237
You know how you fix the God-awful DC movies? You hire a writer/director that makes fun movies and not 2 hours of actors talking at eachother. DC needed to be more lighthearted.

>>149929260
Absolutely no one likes Miles though

>>149929267
I thought its action sucked (and several of the villains he fought tbqh), and objectively that was an important part of the show. I don't think the other parts like the main characters have anything particularly wrong or offensive with them, I just don't care enough

>>149917514
actually solid take.

>>149920183
Because Batman is the most popular and most important hero at DC so his editorial pretty much shits on every other editorial group every chance they get.

They can't stand it when the Robins and Batgirls are in books not under their thumb so they often throw fits whenever they are to have their way, and DC obliges.

>>149925418
Raven and Cyborg are better in the cartoon since the former's comic version is just a serial rapist who can't stop going evil and the latter's comic version is a boring "man or machine" storyline every 5 seconds or team bus.

Starfire and Robin absolutely are not. Comic Starfire got destroyed in the comics due to her cartoon version (among other reasons), and Tim Drake also got destroyed for synergy (among other reasons).

And both cartoon and comic Beast Boy suck.

>>149920183
Batfam reasons like the other anon said even thou nobody cares about Dickbabs

>>149929112
if Beast Boy had money, why did he have to get a job working at Mega Meaty Meat for that space tofu guy in order to buy a moped?

>>149930193
love that episode

WAFFLES WAFFLES WAFFLES WAFFLES

>>149928406
Wrong

>>149930424
silly episodes were the best
this one, the ones with Mad Mod, Mumbo Jumbo, the Hive... those are the best on rewatch

>>149930594
don't forget control freak
his episode was the best

>>149924305
you mean like when he becomes a spy at the advent of WW1, you fucking twit?

>>149927032
Justice League is overrated as all hell.

>>149929260
There were rights issues with Static for a while, but also yeah for some reason DC sucks at integrating him into the DC universe when it wouldn't be difficult to do that

>>149929459
>Tim Drake also got destroyed for synergy (among other reasons).
It was because they wanted to make him The Robin.

>>149930594
>>149930674
Autism. TT humour was forced and terrible. Bonus cringe when they tried to copy anime faces.

>>149904701 (OP)
The best art style and character design of any superhero cartoon of all time and I mean it

>>149932718
Are you me because I was literally about to say that

>>149932718
TTG improved the artstyle

>>149932185
noone wants the same bleak and angsty superheros punching the bad guy of the week
TT thrived because of its balance between action, comedy and drama

>>149933729
Pic related and Justice League action did it way better that anime titans

>>149933044
Retard

>>149925981
you're not alone bbrae bro
you've never been

>>149933844
Teen Titans > Justice League

>>149933729
>ESL gibberish

>>149904701 (OP)
https://youtu.be/W23LKD9Z1hw?t=3

>>149905334
to me the villains also seem like dramatic versions of things young people had to deal with. blackfire was a shitty sibling, mad mod and brother blood were crazy teachers, mother mae eye an overprotective mom, slade was a creepy uncle. the show just knew how to speak to its adoloscent audience

>>149907284
That episode always scared me because I thought Robin was going to die. It was always hard to watch him getting beat up that badly, and the idea it was all in his head fucked with my mind.

>>149929480
As someone that, I guess, prefers Dick ending up with Koriand'r, some of that is just TT nostalgia. If anything having an Archie comics love triangle in their twenties, where Barbara being crippled/wounded makes Dick realize he feels more complete with her, that's the optimal storyline for those three characters. Dick loves Koriand'r, but after a couple years of dating he just realizes he's for the Batfamily, not a space princess. It hurts but it's bittersweet.

>>149929480
At this point I want Bruce Timm to come back and make more Batman x Batgirl porn, just out of spite.

>>149937074
Uh-huh. Remember when he slept with Barbara then told her he was marrying Kory the morning after? Nothing about the way the comics handles things is "sweet."

>>149934645
?

>>149913860
i wonder if these two are the origin on whose waifu is best in every single animated series

>>149925418
What if I tell you, with a straight face, that I prefer GO Raven?

>>149905319
Giving Starfire straight hair to appeal to the whitest of the whites literally ruined her.

>>149938864
Stfu

>>149929030
Are you seriously saying the Haney and Kanigher stuff is better than Wolfman? Unironically?

>>149938868
Also turning Raven into a grey-skinned emo girl and stripping her of all the persian-indian aesthetics and sexy immigrant cult girl affectations. Literally ruined the characters.

>>149938960
New Teen Titans is great, but Raven is one of the weakest links. She's an aloof know-it-all we've seen a dozen times before. Meanwhile, the grumpy goth Raven was, at least for the time, a fresh take.

>>149904701 (OP)
Because

>>149913909
not at all

>>149910748
i like starfire a lot more than raven...

>>149904701 (OP)
The world is a better place thanks to this show's Raven existing.

>>149904701 (OP)
Do people still watch the Teen Titans?

This show was as much a power fantasy as something like Codename Kids Next Door (which aired around the same time).
These are young superheroes in luxury housing fighting crime and playing games off duty. Kids could connect with them and their problems better than say the Justice League.

>>149904701 (OP)
I saw it when boomerang and cartoon netwoek still did reruns of if in 2013-15

>>149937074
For some damn reason, many women prefer men with tons of ex sex partners