Thread 149916485

>I love you but I needed to “experience” other people before I could commit to you
How do you respond without sounding mad?

>>149916485 (OP)
Why is sounding mad meant to be a bad thing? I don’t mean that exclusively within the context of this thread, I mean that these sorts of posts seem to suppose an infuriating scenario while also implying that actually displaying any reaction other than cold sociopathic smugness is invalid. What’s up with that?

I’d be mad in this situation! I’d sound mad, as well.

>>149916594
It’s a meme catchphrase, don’t read too much into OP.

>>149916485 (OP)
Depends on age, how long we've been together, and the person themselves. If we are like 16, we've only dated like 6 months, and shes nice enough I'd understand and just move on and not likely wait. Idk, if a woman is saying something like this to you youre likely better off without her. Date someone who doesnt act like this. Part of the problem of dating a woman because they're hot. You could just totally be on different ends of understanding and making your life miserable. Happens alot irl. Kek

>>149916651
Never read this series, but just learning about what the author did made me mad. She tainted the characters and the romance and seems to be completely unaware of it

>>149916485 (OP)
Just shoot her

Kinda reminds me when I cheated on my Ex

>>149916485 (OP)
If you dont sound mad in that situation, you are a cuck.

Guys, never fall for this shit. It's just an excuse to hoe around. If she wanted you for real, she would've chosen YOU first.

Explain why is this a bad thing. Do you guys really think settling down too early is a good life choice?

>>149916651
the writer probably actually thinks this proves how great the central romance is, that the girl could get some nice alternative dick and still want to settle down with the supportive dick after

>>149916722
I mean she's like 30 and has had tons of relationships even with her mutant handicap.
That being said I'm certain she's talking to the biggest manwhore in Marvel that doesn't have kitchen knives in his fist so he's got no reason to be insecure.

>>149916734
Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

>>149916485 (OP)
Well, no one can say they don't write women accurately

>>149916722
women get the option to have their hoe phase or not. the vast majority of men do not have the looks or personality to have a "hoe phase" since sex and relationships are harder for men to acquire by design. so you're basically just telling the vast majority of men to enjoy being cucked mentally and spiritually by the entire modern female sex.

>>149916737
The issue is her reasoning is bullshit, and is a red flag on how she'll justify whatever else later in life. Like cheating.

Ah yes, another chuds complaining about women thread

>>149916485 (OP)
I was there in this situation. My girl understood we were so young and needed to experience other people after high school. But we eventually got together again after college and experiencing other relationships.

>>149916737
>biggest manwhore

Is Gambit that bad? I'm having a hard time thinking of any of his love interests beyond Bella Donna and Rogue. I mean, he did kiss Courier that one time and Jake looked into it, but otherwise?

>>149916789
Cuck

>>149916789
She wanted to fuck other guys and you were okay with it. What the fuck, bro?

>>149916775
Yee

>>149916775
one of my biggest blackpills in recent memory is seeing firsthand the fact that even attractive, intelligent, well off and well educated women still have the mindset of
>i HAVE to be a whore in my youth and have plenty of casual hookup sex with hot guys to get it out of my system or i WILL regret it you DON'T understand
women are all the same. rich, poor, ugly, beautiful, fat, thin, black or white or brown or asian. they're all the same.

>>149916806
He's a vampish rouge stereotype

>>149916831
>People who are hot and know they can get it want to have fun while it's consequence free
Wow that's crazy , you of course being a voluntarily chaste romantic who only seeks women for love.

>>149916734
>this proves how great the central romance is, that the girl could get some nice alternative dick and still want to settle down with the supportive dick after
That's retarded, all that does it make the fmc a flippant bitch who should be avoid. How the fuck would throwing away a long term relationship building over a weekend fling be a good thing in any capacity.

How the fuck does fucking someone else even make you free? It doesn't actually make sense.

>>149916812
>>149916824
No.
I said I was the Rogue in this situation. I wanted to fuck other girls and I didn’t want a long distance college relationship when I expected to be surrounded by lots of college pussy.

>>149916899
all the shameless sluts i knew up to this point were poor and usually fat druggies. i didn't know any rich people until my sister married into a well off family, just sobering to know even socially elite women have the exact same mindset as some crackwhore single mother.

>>149916931
>That clunky dodge

>>149916916
Sounds like classic cuck behavior. You let her get her pipes filled in college then you ate up all the goo after.

>>149916485 (OP)
If you want to "experience other people" you don't love me, and if I let it happen then I don't love you either.

Love is a desire to possess. Permanently. There is nothing else to it.

>>149916976
i'm just saying there has to be something inherent to the female mind where they instinctively seek out sex with high value men in their youth regardless of upbringing or class or morals. just sucks for the majority of men who can't take advantage of that free pussy i guess, and sucks for the men who are expected to marry these women after the fact. it's demoralizing.

>>149916902
didnt say it wasnt, but thats the mindset. same mindset that makes some women (and probably some gay men) think telling their long term boyfriends or husbands "im glad we didn't meet when i was younger" is a compliment

>>149916902
The idea is pretty obvious, it's seeing a part of yourself totally defined by someone else and wanting to see how whole you are without that person.
It is of course horseshit but you didn't read this far probably. So basically it's just basic bitch insecurity everyone has and the idea of being beholden to someone else gives someone else power over you.

>>149916993
That's not love, love is caring for someone or something's well-being. You want to have your steak and you love steak because it tastes good to you, but you don't care that a cow had to die for it. You don't love the animal you killed to eat.

>>149917016
>Another total whiff
How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?

>>149916992
I got experience and I let her get experience too.
Fucking only the same person your whole life is sad boomer 1950s behavior. That’s why they were so sexually frustrated and had affairs later in life.

>>149917039
when someone's only experiences with women from all classes of life is just seeing them being sluts in their youth and being proud about it, do you think that's just coincidence?

>>149917059
>Only experience
We're getting somewhere.....

>>149917016
Record number of female virgins in their 40s out there because they wanted nobody but their fictional men and kpop celebrities

>>149916485 (OP)
Sounds like a cope to be honest.
If you love someone, shouldn't they be at the top or near the top of people you want to try and work stuff out with and see if you can commit to them?
If you just want to try out different shit before you settling down, then just say that instead.

>>149917057
Getting ran through fucks with their minds. They become broken.

>>149917073
women under report sex and men over report it. i wouldn't be surprised if there's FAR more 30+ year old male virgins out there than reported and far less adult virgin women. i really don't trust people to be honest when it comes to body counts at all.

>>149917097
Good.

>>149917092
Most people aren't mentally ill, they start out with like and maybe it grows into love (or hate or apathy)
Starting out with love instead of like is for mentally ill people who are going on a murder rampage when the partner isn't the image they had in their head and fictional people whose entire lifespan is controlled by an author

>>149917033
>but you don't care that a cow had to die for it. You don't love the animal you killed to eat.
to contextualize this metaphor, the situation we're discussing is feeling bad because your girlfriend says "I wanna sleep around for a few years and get back to you."

>>149917138
Or maybe not get back to you at all because she decided she just doesn't like you that much. Staying with you would be bad for her.

>>149917105
Birthrate crashing despite abortion bans and restrictions on contraception, even in places like Asia and Africa, women are simply not having sex.

>>149917057
>experience
You just let her fuck a bunch of dudes. She probably didnt get any meaningful relationship experience getting fucked by random men. I guess she will be better in the bed room but only because other men showed her how. Just doesnt sound like a good look for the relationship. Everyone will silently judge you and question if youre a cuck. You should probably just break up with her and start a relationship with someone else. Youll be much happier in the end. Most you'll have is regret. But it sounds like anything you do will leave you with some kind of sexual regret. Kek. I feel sorry for you brother. Hope it all works out for you.

>>149916899
>have fun while it's consequence free
STDs, inhibition of pair bonding, and the destruction of civilization are consequences.

>>149917198
>women are simply not having sex.
good. i suffer so why shouldn't they?

>>149917223
I don't think it's too great of a sacrifice for most of them.

>>149916830
>That look of distain when he sees female shennagians
Wtf is the hulk literally (figuratively) me

>>149917251
>it's too great of a sacrifice for most of them.
Wait until these eggcels start to seethe at becoming invisbile aka being treated like the average man.
It's going to be funny

>>149917251
not having sex with chad and not having his baby surely kills them inside.

>>149916485 (OP)
I think there is a mature and reasonable way to have a conversation like this, and it's born out of a sensible thought - but comic writers are all fucking idiots and aren't capable of that level of nuance, so it comes across as a character going "I HAD to be with someone else first so I'd know you were better!"

>>149917026
I read the whole thing.
>The idea is pretty obvious, it's seeing a part of yourself totally defined by someone else and wanting to see how whole you are without that person.
But you would have memories of who you were before meeting that person, it's not as if the old you is really gone.
>being beholden to someone else gives someone else power over you.
All of us cept the underage newfags have to work but, their is a difference between your boss and your possible future spouse. People are always bound to something or someone but that doesn't mean it's inherently a bad thing.

>>149917033
>That's not love, love is caring for someone or something's well-being
English doesn't have words for various kinds of love (as some languages do), so we have to do with phrases. What you're describing is benevolent love, which one can feel towards a puppy, a child, or the whole world. What anon is referring to is romantic love, the convergence of the human sexual and pair-bonding instincts which drive people to pair off and have children (because people who do that have a greater likelihood of producing children who themselves make it to adulthood). And while that's not the only mode of human reproduction, it's the only one which involves romantic love.

>>149916651
>Reckless
Guy should’ve known what he was getting into.

>>149916806
He's probably fucked many women in one night stands off panel,especially in his past
>Gambit kiss many women, but he only love me

>>149917057
>sad boomer 1950s behavior
Consider the society that they built. How does it compare to society today?

>>149902439
Trojan horse /r9k/ shitposting general threads are cancer and against >>>/global/rules/3 >>>/global/rules/6 >>>/global/rules/10 and >>>/co/rules/1
OP is a faggot.
Fulfill your civic duty to help purge this board of anarchistic, sociopathic, intellectually regressive youtube/reddit/twitter immigrant subhumans like him who are under the delusion that all of 4chan (instead of just the designated shitposting playpens like /b/, /trash/, /bant/, etc.) is a toilet by reporting this thread en masse.
Here's a link so you don't have to scroll up to the top of the page.
https://sys.4chan.org/co/imgboard.php?mode=report&no=149916485

>>149916485 (OP)
Why is this shit so common among comic writers? It’s either borderline cucking or regular cucking and all of the women (and most of the men) act like histrionic retards that just follow whatever flight of fancy comes to them? This has been an issue for decades. Is it about drama? Or is there some other shit going on?

>>149917344
i don't think any board is majority incels nowadays. many anons have kids and the average anon has had or has sex. the days of permavirgins being the main 4chan user are long gone unfortunately.

>>149917347
Writers write what they know.

>>149917347
>Why is this shit so common among comic writers?

It's all writers actually. They think relationship drama is "good" "story""telling" and the best way to have relationship drama is to make the woman an unreasonable, insufferable whore of the sort that the reader wants to see her raped to death by horses.

>>149917057
Nope nope nope cuck cuck cuck, it doesn't matter who you fucked anon.

>>149917214
>Wear a condom
>Not a thing
>Schizo shit
Sorry you didn't get laid when you were young, bro.

>>149917445
ah yes the glory of modern nu 4chan. normalfags shitting on outcasts. even on the gay baby cartoon board.

>>149917278
Eh but for some that was going to happen regardless if they had sex with lesser men or not. In fact it's better to remain virgins for those, at least their fantasies aren't ruined.

>>149917211
The fuck are you talking about? I got more pussy than she got cock.
And that fine with me.

>>149916485 (OP)
Don't answer at all. GTFO. Bullet dodged. She's already banging someone else and she'll do the same thing to him.
She's just telling you she's a cheater.


>>149916485 (OP)
When exactly is too early? The more you date the more baggage you pick up along the way.

>>149917468
I'm just saying you read like sour grapes rather than having a genuine issue and just made up a bunch of bullshit.

>>149917661
i'm just saying you're braindead normalfag cattle who thinks every man who has difficulty dating and having sex is inherently evil when some of the most abusive and deranged men on the planet have high body counts.

>>149916681
Based

>>149916775
yes.jpg

>>149916485 (OP)
>Woman you want to give your life to tells you she wants to go suck and fuck other dudes first to determine if you truly are the one.

Normal people try moving in together first to see if they believe long term togetherness is for them. Not doing a dick sampling tour.

Anything not mad is cucking.

>>149916485 (OP)
roofie her, hire a dozen cracked out prostitutes to make skin contact with her while she's out, then dump her in an alley behind a bar.
Or just break up with her I guess.

>>149917026
Seeing yourself without that person is fine and makes sense. That's why boys go on fishing trips and girls go on spa vacations, or other "leave partner for a couple days to spend time with friends, or even alone.

Seeing yourself with some other person and fucking them isn't finding yourself. It's cheating. Full on, full stop. You're testing if you want to split from your partner for another person, if they're the 'best you can do.' Or you're doing it for a bit of spice, a different dildo or cocksleeve for variety. It's a shitty thing to do, and is a loud and clear message that you'll likely do it again.

>>149917057
I think most boomers just went with the become swingers option and did couple swap parties.

Good for you doing the spread your seeds first path and then managing to come back from it.

>>149917686
Sounds like a massive cope

>>149917997
no idea why the idea that we live in a patriarchy is still popular when modern young women are all pushed and encouraged to fuck as many hot bad boys as they can in their youth and that any man who finds it fucked up is shamed and called a little dick incel. in a real patriarchy women would be stoned to death or universally shamed and ostracized for even talking about that. western society bends over backwards for and worships women. look at the shitshow in america over the very idea of casual sex having potential consequences that aren't just
>lol guess i'll kill chad's baby now

>>149916485 (OP)
Wipe out a large chunk of Europe.

>>149917425
This is why Chat's the best Spidey love interest.

>>149918260
I don't know what playing the field before a relationship has to do with cheating on a long term established relationship, but okay.

>>149918339
>playing the field
just call it a hoe phase like all privileged normalfags do.

>>149918351
What is it for men?

>>149918367
same thing, a man can be a whore and sleep around. just being a manwhore is seen as desirable and attractive to women since men and women aren't the same. you need to be insanely charismatic or very attractive to have a lot of sex as a man. not just simply exist like women.

>>149918414
Whores get paid to do it. people who do it for free are sluts.

>>149919056
Don't be rude, anon. We call them jannies.

>>149916485 (OP)
That is hardly the worst thing Rogue has ever said or done to Gambit.

>>149916485 (OP)
Rogue and Gambit have been happily married for years. They have had minimal romance drama. The biggest issue was that he wanted a kid and she didn't during the Krakoa era.

>>149917347
>? It’s either borderline cucking or regular cucking and all of the women (and most of the men) act like histrionic retards that just follow whatever flight of fancy comes to them?
Death in comics is temporary, but cuckoldry and relationship drama is eternal, If you as a writer want to have a lasting impact on a character long-term the most surefire way to do is not to maim them, kill them, make them traumatized by violence or cruelty or the deaths of innocents, no the most surefire way to leave a lasting mark on a character is to cuck them or introduce relationship drama.

It's so common because 99% of comic writers are talentless hacks. The kind of people who'd have Arwen bang a hot elf bad boy while Aragorn is away because love triangles make everything better right????

>>149916485 (OP)
>Go ahead and take your other experiences, I won't stop you. But this will also be a lesson for me and... you too will have to accept what I've learned or decided during that time.

I wish women could be more like men.

>>149919504
It feels like they should focus on writing memorable storylines or having the characters do things that set them apart from other runs without changing them too much or fucking anything up. I mean it feels of how much of this shit feels like it’s made by someone that didn’t get past high school English in terms of narrative and character development. Like they have been writing nothing but shitty fan fiction in an echo chamber where no one gave them any real criticism.

>>149916737
No, she hasn't. Up until that moment, she had only slept with Gambit and Magneto. She's dated other gays though.After this scene, she married Gambit.
I mean, I don't like her, but we have to be fair.

>>149921868
I thought it was reconned at one point that Sentry popped her cherry.

>>149916806
Gambit is a victim of terrible writing in the last 20 years.
> Met Belladona when he was 8 and she was his consistent girlfriend until they got married when they were 18. Only slept with one more woman due to a thief mission, wich he admitted it was just a thing before becoming a married man.
> Became Kandra's sex toy for one year after his exile until he got tired of her and left
> Dated Cypher, Lillah, some other villains, a couple of girls, sex was probably involved. This happened when he wasn't in his best, during the time of the Morlock Massacre.
> Met Storm when he was 25 and also a girl he dated while taking care of little Stormy. They broke up when he and Storm returned to the X-Men
> Met Rogue
> Belladona returns, he considers getting back together, didn't work. Then admits he's in love with Rogue and implies he's over with being a manwhore.
> Rogue dumps him for having secrets. Goes off on a solo mission, sleeps with a nun and realised he shouldn't have and decides to become again a Catholic man.
> Goes back together with Rogue, didn't last.
> Rescues some girl, sleeps with her.
> Back with Rogue, move together. He wants to settle down.She doesn't.
> Came back to the X-Men, gets sexually assaulted by some ho and Mystique.
> He and Rogue break up. Dates Cecilia Reyes, didn't last.
> Met some girl, realises he likes her, thinks he rather would help her than sleep with her. He does help her but she dies.
Little after this, new writers decided to trash all of his development and make him a full degenerate manwhore again because that's the whole extent of their skill for writing handsome men.
tl;dr: Gambit became a manwhore when he was in a bad situation and alone and isolated, but decided to change and not being so hedonist about his sex life: writers didn't like this and fucked up his evolution making him a manwhore until he married Rogue and no whe's a sex maniac with her all the time.

>>149921868
she dated Deadpool for a while too since touching him just absorbed his cancer and made him handsome

>>149921966
It was retconned back to Gambit being her first.

Rogue telling Gambit that she would leave him to explore other dicks ain't even the worst thing she's done to her. I don't think even abandon him to die in Antarctica has been the worse thing she did, and ftr, she hasn't apologised for any of those things (writers just make Gambit let her know he has forgiven her).
To me, the worse was that, despite Rogue knowing how much Gambit wants to be a family man and have his own kids to raise them, even joking about this AFTER they got married, she later told him she didn't want any kids because she feared she would be a terrible mother due to being raised by Mystique, who she still insists that she needs to be part of their lives... despite she assaulted Remy at least twice.
Even during their honeymoon, Rogue didn't want to be with Gambit. Even in recent UXM, when Gambit's like "we just got married and we're here in my city, let's stay here for a while and think what we're gonna do", she was "NOOOO, I need to come back to the x-men because that's the only think that gives me any purpose!!"
On top of it, you have how she said she didn't want kids with him, but she's so happy being the mom of the kids they are (badly) taking care of.
Rogue's love for Gambit in comics is just "telling, not showing". She says she loves him, but all her actions speak of someone who would rather be doing anything else than being this guy's wife and stay together alone with each other unless they're fucking.Current female writers just don't know how to write a woman who is a wife. Rogue's not Gambit's wife, but his sex partner.

>>149916594
>while also implying that actually displaying any reaction other than cold sociopathic smugness is invalid. What’s up with that?
This entire site believes that if any negative reaction is shown that means the antagonizer has "won". You see it with shit like trolling and bait

>>149916722
It's bad when you expect the other person to wait while you slut around, this goes for both men and women. Just fucking break up instead of stringing the other person along

>>149922303
There is a context in rogue's case, though. Being Gambit her first relationship, she wanted to be sure that she wasn't staying with him just because he had waited for her and she felt she owed her or if her lack of experience was making her see him as her only option.
But then, there is also the context of them living without powers for months, which had to have given her enough time to consider if she really loved him or not. You don't live with a guy for one year and you don't know if you truly want him unless you try more cocks.
This is a writing problem. The writers after Xtreme Xmen didn't read this run well to understand that this was the time for them to settle or break up for good.

>>149922271
>You see it with shit like trolling and bait
I think yo're missing nuance here. Trolling/bait is generally to produce emotional engagement. That is, the target is intended to care about it, and usually post something amusingly unhinged in reply. Telling to troll to fuck off is generally an appropriate reaction.

Generally speaking emotions serve to motivate actions, and suitable emotions motivating suitable actions are good. What's bad is when the emotions and/or the actions are not suitable.

>>149922254
>>149922103
I like StormXGambit. I basically live in hell.

>>149922667
I like them better in a brother-sister relationship. I'd rather he goes back to his og wife who's kinda hot.

>>149922254
She didn't want to reform another X-Team, Harvey X is responsible for that. Gambit and Wolverine would have followed her lead like puppies. As far as the Not-New Mutants are concerned, while Simone had first pick of the team characters she didn't want to be greedy.

>>149916651
Is this like how a harem protagonist won't pick a girl despite they clearly lusting for him.

>>149916722
>too early

>>149916485 (OP)
I don't think I could be in that situation.

>>149922271
Not really, its just a popular discussion prompt

When a woman says this, she wants you to tell her she's being retarded. She's looming for someone who won't just go along with female shit testing.

>>149916485 (OP)
I understand, honey. I'll wait for you. And then I move on completely.

>>149922254
>Rogue's love for Gambit in comics is just "telling, not showing". She says she loves him, but all her actions speak of someone who would rather be doing anything else
See this plenty in a lot of writing. Bad writers think that what they are telling you, through the characters, matters more than what they are showing you or don't actually understand what they end up showing you. Its basically the writer/work not respecting itself nor respecting the reader yet expecting the reader to respect it, it deserves nothing but scorn

>>149923293
And then she'll talk to her friends who will all tell her you're being abusive and she needs to break up with you if not try to get you arrested.

>>149921868
She hooked up with Johnny Storm for a while when she was on that Avengers team, Uncanny Avengers I think.

>>149916681
Amen brother.

>>149916775
If they weren't such whores, our criticism would be unnecessary. As they are, and as it is, that makes you ultra cuck and clown.
Everyone laugh at him

>consequence free
If that were true, we wouldn't be seeing article after article, TikTok after TikTok about roasites crying into the camera about how lonely and mentally tortured their lives are.
Anything in excess always leads to pain and tragedy. The great fairness of this world is that this truth smacks down anyone who thinks they can challenge it.

Mike Carey used his X-Men run, I think it was X-Men Legacy, to self insert as Magneto to have Rogue officially sleep with him. What made it hilarious is that before this he had Gambit confess to her and she basically turned him down to immediately go bang Magneto, but they were all in a small camp together in tents. So while the two were having sex Gambit was literally outside their tent playing basketball by himself, lol

What made it even funnier is that right after this Magneto left to book to go be on a different team. A different creator picked him up and Carey left the X-Men Legacy book too, but he didn't have Rogue and Mags break up. So they were still dating but never appeared together in their books, but Gambit was still stuck in the same book as Rogue just following her around. It was such an awkward mess.

Finally at the end of Legacy I think Rogue and Mags appeared together and he proposed to her and she turned him down. Then she left the book and ignored Gambit to go be in the Uncanny Avengers book and hooked up with Johnny Storm and Deadpool.

>>149923670
There is no female loneliness epidemic nor a movement of incel women.

>>149923866
how dare you. chads are pumping and dumping femcels as we speak.

>>149923866
Yes, the female loneliness epidemic is caused by not being able to take chad's hand in marriage
She misses the days of her cunt being stretched out like no other man could. Her sex life permanently ruined by Chad's massive cock, and now she can't feel anything with a regular man. Sluts been desensitized

>>149916651
>anons encounter the second lead and cannot process this extremely standard character type
>>149923162
no, the point of these characters is to 1) demonstrate that the male lead is better and 2) show that the heroine doesn't live in a world with no real romantic options and still chooses him. it's to reinforce the endgame/primary relationship.

Expectation is the thief of joy. By all metrics, the more partners you have the less happy you will be because you'll always be comparing, and everything on divorce and break ups corroborates this. And yet society and the sexual revolution continues to always place a huge pressure on experience as if more experience is the same as quality. People also have that feeling of the grass always being greener on the otherside and tricking themselves out of good positions.

>>149917198
The women are having TONS of sex. And tons of abortions.

>>149923955
>no, the point of these characters is to 1) demonstrate that the male lead is better and 2) show that the heroine doesn't live in a world with no real romantic options and still chooses him. it's to reinforce the endgame/primary relationship
Cool
if you can't establish that without the female lead cucking the male lead by fucking another dude she met less than a week ago you're shit at writing and shouldn't tackle the subject to begin with

>>149919149
What came of this? Better yet, what run was this so I can read it myself?

>>149924091
are we talking generally or specifically about rogue and gambit or about the characters in that book series? and did that actually happen or are you projecting your ship? i agree infidelity is probably missing the point, but the description of that series looks more like the original pairing hadn't actually got together at that point, which makes it a standard case of trying out romance and realizing mr right was the the person next to you all along. that's just someone getting mad that they had to get past a fake-out for the endgame ship to become canon.

>>149923866
Just because you plug your ears and close your eyes doesn't mean the truth stops existing. If you aren't seeing what's happening, it's because you're shutting it out.

>>149924184
>looks more like the original pairing hadn't actually got together at that point
>the pair had been together for ten years and clearly set up as the romantic angle
>but they didn't say out loud that they're dating so it doesn't cooo-unt!
Woman logic

>>149924007
Society is suffering a sunk cost fallacy induced psychotic break. Ninety percent of the population was raised on the idea that premarital sex was not only ok, but healthy. Now we're living in what is suppose to be the perfect new world where everyone's suppose to be so much happier, and yet relationships and satisfaction with them gets lower and lower each passing year. We've hit a critical point where young men are just giving up because if these best looking ones can get most of the tail in a given area, they're just left competing for scraps. The effects on women is delayed and usually hits the youngest generation hitting thirty, these women suddenly find themselves face planting into the wall and coming to the horrifying realization that while they were riding the cock carousel, all the higher quality men are either not interested in long term relationships with them or already settled down.

Women will never understand that the whole "He had my body but my heart belongs to you" cliche will never work on male readers, some try to paint it as some amazing love "Seee she didn't lose to the cock therefore the other guy is better LOVE WINS AGAINST LUST ISN'T IT AMAZING?!" but a male reader wants girls that wouldn't even consider trying another cock

>>149924503
that's the logic of anyone who isn't a retarded incel. the relationship you imagined but didn't tell the other person about isn't anyone else's responsibility to maintain.

>>149917057
She's going to cheat on you and you will forgive her because you already set a precedent.

You are definitionally and in perpetuity at cuck

>>149916485 (OP)
>How do you respond without sounding mad?
If you're Gambit you just fuck a new woman in every run you star in until she is willing to pay ball

>>149916806
He's fucked a different chick in every one of his solos but the '12 run, iirc. He's not really a man whore he's just that sort of classic James Bond style romantic partner that cares about his partner but they go their own way after the hookup

>>149916485 (OP)
That's rouge, right? I mean, all the X-Men are MASSIVE whores.

>>149925043
This. Even if you've got to accidentally get your male friend permanently sex changed by Mister Sinister to do it.

GambitXCourier is lowkey a fun pairing.

>>149924545
and there it is

>>149917057
Most pathetic cuck cope I've ever read.

>>149916651
That's not just a woman thing, a lot of western authors do that because being faithful to a single romantic partner is icky and patriarchal or some shit, and adding cuckshit makes the series "more complex and mature"

>>149924531
Men and women respond completely differently to physical vs emotional infidelity because of reproductive asymmetry. Men VASTLY prefer a woman who has never and will never be with anyone but them, even if she has an emotional connection with a simp who has never so much as touched her hand, or some.chaste Arthurian/Victorian courtly romance where he's like writing her handwritten letters or poetry but she's still married to you with sixteen kids because duty and responsibility trump feelings.This is because the limiting factor in male reproductive fitness is access to women, physical infidelity is an enormous risk and literally THE number one source of disgust and things to avoid.

Meanwhile, women would vastly prefer their man sling dick with emotionally detached escorts who he doesn't even bother remembering the names of and is purely about satisfying lust rather than love. A man committing emotional infidelity is a much greater offense and disgusts them much more. Women's reproductive fitness is limited by access to resources, literally the only thing that reduces a woman's inter-birth interval is a low stress environment with plenty of resources and nutrition, ten men can't have her give birth to a baby in one month.

This is why, because men and women don't understand each other and mistakenly believe they're the same, they end up pissing each other off so much. A woman who had a physical affair with a guy she doesn't even know the name of will scream "HE MEANS NOTHING TO ME! IT WAS JUST SEX!" thinking that her proof of no emotional infidelity will redeem her.....when it just fucking pisses men off. If it HAD been true love and he was your fucking soulmate that would be easier to swallow than spreading your legs for some literal who!

And the inverse applies to men. They'll get emotionally close and open up to a woman or even fall in love with her but resist crossing the line and be baffled at the reaction being so negative despite no sex

>>149925122
Nope.
First solo, he didn't fuck anyone.
Second one he slept with a nun and later regretted.
99 run he slept with Rogue likely, then they broke up. He slept with some lady at the end.
2006 run he was coerced by some woman.
2012 he said he didn't sleep with his main lady.
He's kinda a redeemed whore in theory, but that growth has been sent into the trash thanks to female gooners.

>>149916678
>>149916651
>>149916902
I looked this book up online, but didn't see anyone else bringing up the same complaints that leads me to believe the hero and heroine where probably not "officially dating" when she fucked the other dude. It would still piss me off, though.

>>149924344
South Korea experienced a sex/date protest from women to men, it was not seen as the other way around. Men can't use sex as a way to strong-arm women into certain behaviors. Why? Also why are men the ones most critical of no fault divorce?

>>149925224
>Meanwhile, women would vastly prefer their man sling dick with emotionally detached escorts who he doesn't even bother remembering the names of
Aren't women also more tolerable towards polygyny vs. men towards polyandry?

>>149924545
Have you watched xmen 97? Because basically this is what happened there and not an incel but rather an autist wouldn't know that despite they aren't announcing it to the world, R and G were involved before the big revelation about Magneto. There is a big implication that some talk happened that we didn't know about.
I mean, you don't give explanations to someone you aren't emotionally involved with.

>>149923800
There is some continuation that puts Rogue in a worse place. In Gambit '12, he met a girl he joined for some shenanigans that alert the Avengers, so Rogue is sent to check on him because she knows him.
When she finds him with this girl, sleeping (not as in having sex, just sleeping, according to Remy himself), she was initially really mad and told him she had assumed that he would be on his own (they likely had a previous conversation) and Gambit had to tell her "so, it's ok that you can be with others, but it's wrong if I'm just spending my time with a nice woman".
She later asks him to join the avengers and tells him that Gambit's always gonna be a thief and nothing more and they turned him down. Gambit finds out due to his father stealing his file. He was truly hurt by her words and Rogue still doesn't get what she did wrong, lmao.
Rogue's just terrible for Gambit and the only reason they're together is inertia from the 90s and the cartoon. They have nothing in common now and she's be happier being single.

>>149925334
I mean there's WAY more women in relationships as mistresses/tolerating a mistress while married to a rich and powerful man than the other way around so it would definitely seem that way by common sense and has been that way across all of human history so it would certainly seem so. In countries with polygamy it's often the first wife demanding the husband take more wives because it's a status symbol, they want to signal that they're high status and be the "head wife" more than they care about sharing.

I use the physical vs emotional example because it's so well documented and many men and women don't even consider that the other could feel differently, to me it's so OBVIOUSLY worse to actually fuck other guys, yet women will be genuine when they say shit like "HE MEANT NOTHING TO ME!". It's some straight up Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus shit.

>>149923106
But it's terrible writing nevertheless. The actions of the characters speak badly of them if you portray them as selfish assholes.
You could make Rogue say she's afraid something's happening and at least they need to be in contact with Cyclops team and get prepared for whatever might happen and stay together where they are.
Nah, she said none of them were strategists, which is bs because Gambit has been a field leader of the xmen and he's been the leader of two guilds. She also said only being part of the xmen gave her purpose, which is which a hurtful things to say to the man you just married.
They write Rogue as an absolute bitch and then complain of misogyny or whatever when readers don't want her bs.

>>149925569
>They write Rogue as an absolute bitch and then complain of misogyny or whatever when readers don't want her bs.
because Rogue is Gail Simone's self insert so she just writes nothing but Rogue fucking Gambit all day and him forgiving every awful woman moment she's ever done.
He could do WAY better than Rogue, but Rogue could never do better than Gambit.

>>149925150
Just saying, I would the female Courier.
Honestly, Gambit has a pretty fun character gallery

>>149923955
You've never been in a real relationship. Neither my wife nor I ever felt a need to do this. In fact, she had another guy gunning for her pretty hard and I had 2-3 other girls interested in me and we even double checked with each other on if we wanted to be monogamous or try doing a poly thing (neither of us ever had done that before) and we both decided that we cared about each other more than those other people and that the thought of letting anyone else interfere with OUR relationship felt gross and wrong because we just wanted to be with each other.

This stuff only comes about because of people who hate our society wanting to denigrate it and then it gets popularized by no sex having Reddit types that think if they're progressive enough they'll start having crazy sex as a result. IRL this is always a horrible idea that only horrible people want to do.

>>149925300
In the first solo there was a flashback where he fucked that one chick and stole her necklace before she died from Sabertooth, I think that counts.
Second run was the nun, yeah
99 run was Rogue kinda implied
06 run I don't remember. Was that the one with the zombies in New Orleans and he blows up something with a bowling ball?
12 run agreed
His '20 run he fucked that marine chick, but it's again something in the past so your mileage may vary on it counting
There's also Gambit/Wolverine Victims where he fucked that cop before she died, and Deadpool vs Gambit where he fucked 4 chicks at once. But the latter is basically a like 5 issue shitpost for the characters so that one's kinda loose on how canon it is imo
But I still stick by the idea he's never really been a whore, he just tends to fuck people to cope a bit since he's a romantic at heart

>>149924091
Exactly
>>149924184
> Semantics game
Now you're panicking. It doesn't matter because the statement is objectively true and applies to each scenario. Also if you're asking if it actually happened in the series than you haven't read it and don't need to comment on something that's specific to the series itself.

>>149916651
Reckless is also the title of a really cool crime themed graphic novel series set in the 80s. I liked it and hope they do more

>>149916722
Remaining chaste until marriage is the best choice and this is scientifically verifiable.

>>149925747
Christcucks also vindicated

>>149916764
It also doesn't matter if men "get to" have a "hoe phase." All that's going to lead to is STD's, bastard children, and being in a situation that can prevent you from forming a connection with the person you're meant to be with because you're too busy "hoe'ing around." It's objectively bad no matter who is doing it.

>>149925600
>gender bend a straight male hero
>he's technically a virgin because he's only had sex with women before being given a female body
>knock her up and marry her and show her the joys of being a woman while not dealing with all the awful baggage 99% of marvel heroines have
Superia was right, the way to save the world is through rule 63

99% of marvel heroines would be out of a fucking job if more dudes were getting genderbent. I would propose to rule 63 gambit on the spot before I even considered putting my dick in fucking Rogue and getting Magneto's sloppy seconds. Rule 63 Spider-Man mogs both MJ and Black Cat. Rule 63 Nightcrawler beats Kitty Pryde any day of the week.

>>149916775
> STOP NOTICING
No.

>>149916831
There's a 0.1% that aren't like that, and they're the exception that proves the rule that the rest of them are whores that shouldn't have the ability to make the decision in the first place.

>>149925827
If she fears truly the Lord she knows better than to be a harlot

>>149925762
>>149925747

>>149917997
This. If you want to "see yourself without them" that doesn't require hooking up with other people. This is part of the reason why "courting" used to be a thing. After a girl's parents decided she was ready she would make her "debut" and start to be able to attract potential suitors. During this phase she was free to go out with as many boys as she liked as long as her parents approved of them, but she wasn't allowed to kiss them or anything beyond just hanging out and maybe holding hands and talking romantically to each other, and if this was a problem then a chaperone would have to accompany them to insure it stayed so. Then you could see exactly who you liked and who didn't get long with. Once you knew you liked someone and thought things were going to work out you would start "going steady" which meant you could start kissing. If that worked out then you would get engaged, and later married at which point you would give your virginities to each other.

>>149917347
Because they're either jews or unironic neckbeard losers. They don't know how to write anything else.

>>149925880
> That valley of despair once you hit 30 partners
Grim yet kek-worthy

>>149925877
Most women have a hard time being Faithful in general, especially to the Lord, unless they have a strong influence in their childhood to guide them.

>>149925600
It was surprising when Fabe brought Jake back in Cable last year.

>>149925583
I agree, but the problem goes long before Simone.

>>149925583
>He could do WAY better than Rogue, but Rogue could never do better than Gambit.
Rogue fans are unable to process that idea. They think Rogue is entitled to Gambit and they don't realise that Gambit could hook up with any random girl and still be a likeable popular character.
There is a reason why most recent "R&G" comics are just Rogue comics in all but name: she doesn't sell without him attached. He's been the popular of the pair.
At this point, send her to Magneto and keep her there. Gambit needs to go solo for a while and have his own adventures being a spy and a thief. Give her femme fatales in any number not to sleep with but to antagonise, and then pair him with some cool lady. I still think they can do much retaking the idea that he should be the leader of the Louisiana guild and rule along his ex wife who was the leader of the Assassins. That's a much interesting outline than being with Rogue and she's a much interesting character too.

>>149926123
That makes me happy and I am just finding out. He's a nice chap. He needs to be part of more Gambit adventures.

>>149916485 (OP)
Walk away.

>>149925693
I agree with the last part and it fits his character of saying he would rather have a wife and a family. He seems to sleep with women when he's emotionally down or when he wants to stun himself out of feeling down. He was quite loyal and happy to be only with Rogue when he was with the xmen, who he called his family and friends.
The idea of him being a womaniser comes from the cartoon. The kids who watched it pushed that idea once they became writers later. Gambit being a man who's constantly thinking about sex is a post 2010 thing.

>>149926278
I've always liked Courier. Even before he had tits. I like mutant characters who don't necessarily do X-Men/Brotherhood bullshit. Jake's just this mercenary corporate hatchetman acting as a spy, go-between, and... courier for shady types. Great niche.

>>149926429
He's the right character to be a sidekick for someone like Gambit. Him and that one who was a cyborg.
We miss so much with him being trapped with the x-men.

>>149926123
Well holy shit, I didn't know he actually came back
>>149926429
I like him too. The tits are a fun bonus.
I also liked Fence, he was a fat guy Gambit would sell shit and get tech from in his '12 run

>>149916651
Usually this third party fling is only warranted after a conflict between the two established characters, be it a fight, thinking the other was dead, misunderstanding, deception by the 3rd party, etc etc. However the "woman moment" is the age old common psychological female "trading up" scenario. See women are insanely insecure no matter what they tell you. They often will groom a "Backup plan aka Plan B" guy to have on retainer when they finally realize they're the best they're able to get. The guy of their dreams goal is driven by one half societal indoctrination other half instinctual desire to find the optimal partner for reproduction.

So yeah women be drama

LoL that you made this about women when we should have just kept it on hating Rogue and marvel women writers who are all idiots who can't even write such a simple character as her.

>>149926874
I love Fence too. My eternal hate for Marvel for denying us cool adventures with Fence, Courier, and Gambit.

>>149927899
It's sad how awful Rogue's gotten over the years.

>>149924150
That arc was collected as The Trial of Gambit: UNCANNY X-MEN (1981) 341-350, -1; X-MEN (1991) 62-64, -1.

>>149925305
Even if they weren't the writer clearly was setting them up to be together which means she's a shit for creating that dynamic just to pull that shit in the first place.

why are males so sensitive and naive?

>>149930243
shut up bitch, imma mating-press you

>>149930293
pathetic

>>149918261
The Maker was a completely understandable reaction to Ultimate Sue being a massive irredeemable slut..

>>149930243
>sensitive
This is 2025, civilized men are supposed to be sensitive.
>naive
We live in high trust societies.

Then again there are still limites. In my case I backed out from one crazy case, and today she has 5 children with 3 different men.

>>149925738
That's by Ed Brubaker, isn't it? I've not read that one yet, but he's generally really good. If you like stylish crime stories you might also like the Parker adaptations by Darwyn Cook.

>>149916722
>Do you guys really think settling down too early is a good life choice?
Worse
They think child marriage is good thing

>>149923800
Mike Carey's always been a favorite of mine, but Legacy was so underwhelming.

>>149924150
Nothing came of it they all just ignored it and said it was because rogue was dealing with gambits self hate of himself after absorbing him or something I forget. She then went on to fuck a young clone magneto

>>149930642
Oh nice, I'll for sure look into them, love that genre. Thanks mate

>>149916681
too based for this shit board

>>149925305
>I looked this book up online, but didn't see anyone else bringing up the same complaints that leads me to believe the hero and heroine where probably not "officially dating" when she fucked the other dude
Or maybe anon completely made it up. Nobody's reading three whole books of a random fantasy novel series to verify if cucking took place though.

>>149916485 (OP)
I want to cuck gambit. He made rogue hotter imo and I want to cuck him

>>149916485 (OP)
>How do you respond without sounding mad?
"Fine, just don't expect that I'm gonna wait. I'm not putting my life on pause for god knows how long, just because you need to "FiNd yOurSelF".

But ofcourse we know that's not how fictional romance is written. No, you have to wait eternity for them, to prove... something.

>>149916899
>>People who are hot and know they can get it want to have fun while it's consequence free
If it's consequence free, why don't they like to talk about it, and then claim that body count doesn't matter? What are they ashamed of if it's consequence free?

>>149931679
That's what it seems like from the description, but it also brings up another romantic writing pitfall. Imagine being the second dude, in the scenario. You meet a woman, hit it off, it's really intense, then she slams the breaks and announces she's going to date some other dude (or worse go back to him); that guy in reality is going to feel like shit because he was used as an emotional test strip.

>>149931829
They typically do when they're in spaces without weirdos.

>>149931782
That did happen. In later comics, he told her that she couldn't expect him to move on and that he still cared for her, but he couldn't with her bullshit. He wasn't mad, just sad. I was sure they were done for good until Marvel got them back together so randomly in 2018.

I don’t even understand why ppl love their relationship so much, is it a nostalgia thing? Rogue for the majority of their dating fucked gambit over so many times that it makes no sense why either would want to be with each other.

>>149916702
No. Never sound mad. They WANT you to sound mad and emote. They want you to react.
The best way to respond to a woman in this situation?
Calmly respond. "Oh. Okay. Good luck to you. Hope you find what you're looking for"
Then you walk away, right out of her life, like it doesn't bother you at all.
Go be mad in private all you want. But never let the woman see it. That is what she wants. And in that moment you should stop caring about what she wants.
But showing no emotion at all? That will break her spirit.

>>149931891
Your parents were weirdos?

>>149926123
That's black face

>>149916485 (OP)
You respond by saying that you also have (and are entitled to having) your own desires, and being together with a rational, reasonable partner is one of them.
So goodbye, she can be with any guy she wants now. Not me.

>>149917347
Because they think cheap soap opera drives sales. You have to remember that capeshit writeres generally don't have any wider story arc idea in mind, they just make up shit along the way. So the priority is no longer about plot cohesion but bringing twists and shocks so people will keep buying mags.

>>149932034
So wait you're telling me people are ashamed of monogamous relationships because they don't talk about fucking in front of family. Yeah totally not a weirdo.

>>149932098
>because they don't talk about fucking in front of family
No. I mean your parents were monogamous enough to squirt you out. But its pretty clear you have a fetal alcohol syndrome thanks to your lack of reading comprehension so maybe your mother really was a shameless slut.

>>149916485 (OP)
I'll just organize a gangbang and get myself some capital in the meantime. I'm not the jealous type and I consider myself an entrepreneur of sorts

>>149932118
You're all over the place schizo. My parents had me has what to do with talking about previous sexual partners?

>>149932154
>My parents were whores, what of it?
Damn. I guess you do you lmao

>>149932174
Explain your reasoning schizo. I know you wear tinfoil to keep the government out of your head, but we can't actually read your thoughts.

>>149932203
>Explain your reasoning schizo
You just called your own parents whores who fucked around before they made you. You being a retard is another proof that they most likely did a lot of drugs as well.

>>149932203
>we can't actually read your thoughts
And yet you knew he was wearing tinfoil. Curious!

>>149923955
That's funny, I wonder if it author will also let the male character sleep around, or if it'll be "No, he's meant for her, he'll save himself for her. "

>>149917211
>You should probably just break up with her and start a relationship with someone else. Youll be much happier in the end
As if that woman would not also have a ton of sexual experience? Unless you want to go to jail, you are not getting some chaste virgin woman, since the majority of girls lose it in high school.

>>149931980
I mean you put the retarded shit aside for a sec (ie: everything Rogue does) and it makes sense on paper. They're both people with a regrettable past with issues connecting with people. Gambit with his self loathing, Rogue in a literal physical sense. Gambit actually being as loyal and faithful as a sunrise and Rogue seeing it as almost impossibly too good to be true is a nice subversion on the mysterious thief troupe.
That's all on paper. The problems come up when Rogue has over 20 years of shit testing Remy and him putting up with it and writers always making him out to be the one in the wrong. Maybe not in a meta standpoint per se, but people will for sure bring up Gambit being involved in the mutant massacre or his numerous failings in keeping people he cared about safe way more often than Rogue being a literal villain in her early years, her literally leaving Gambit to die in the artic (something so vile they had to retcon it to where she was mentally being messed with, which is the same equivalent of "Sorry babe, I was drunk, I didn't mean to hit you" to me) fucking over his chances to be an Avenger by lying about him not being trustworthy even though he's arguably one of the only X-Men aside from like fucking Nightcrawler that actually has been really consistent about Xavier's original dreams of integration, and all her emotional manipulation she's done to him over the years, and the "on paper" reasoning why they work well together gets null and void.
Oh, and this one is a kind of small gripe but Gambit has consistently said he's wanted to settle down and have kids throughout his entire history as a character and Rogue did too, until after they got married and she changed her mind. He should have really gotten upset at that. Maybe not angry, exactly, but it's kind of disappointing that she once again took from Gambit without giving anything back.

>>149917339
>Consider the society that they built. How does it compare to society today?
Today IS the society Boomers built. They are still in charge, at every level. The society they were born INTO was the good one, built by THEIR grandparents.

>>149923670
>we wouldn't be seeing article after article, TikTok after TikTok
What you're seeing is propaganda. It's not real, friendo. You know all media is fiction? ALL media, including social media.

>>149932640
people don't hate boomers enough.

>>149931980
Yes, it's nostalgia, mostly by people who only watched the show but didn't read how dysfunctional their dynamic in comics became. Then the comics decided to pander to these people instead of acknowledging that Gambit was better off without Rogue.
Also, it panders to female fans of Rogue who project themselves on her and feel entitled to have a hot guy.

>>149932492
2012 should have been the moment for them to part amiable and never looked back. Let them move on with the good memories of what their relationship was. Fans who didn't read about their terrible baggage kept pushing on keeping them together because they're hot forgetting all the damage she caused him while he was just expected to shrug it off.
I agree with the last part but I wanna add that Gambit didn't just want to have a family: he wanted to retire before settling down. This was the plan he had with and for his then wife because both of them didn't want to be dragged to their families' insanity. They said they wanted "normal" lives. This idea is Gambit being a husband and dad while being a hero doesn't fit his true desires. The only moment you see him speak calmly about something back in the 90s is when he said "I want to retire to raise a family".
Maybe Bella is his true soulmate and not Rogue. She wanted to rule the guilds together and she respects him without letting him step over her not being herself overbearing. Gambit helped Rogue to learn about love and relationships, but perhaps he was never meant to be more for her and that's fine. This is a terrible ship based on people being horny for them and you can tell because all they do is have sex, they have nothing else in common.

>>149916775
To be fair, there's lots to complain about... I mean, have you met women?

>>149932203
This is an xmen thread, you either can read people's thoughts or you get an anti telepath helmet.

>>149927109
>>149916651
I mean it happens with male writers where they write a guy having a fling while in a relationship to prove they cared about the woman. This is not new. Romance as a genre is fucking awful.

>>149916992
Geez... if being okay with your girl parting ways with you bc she wants to experience other men is cuck worthy, then thinking about thr metaphysical "goo" years later when she's had several showers in the meantime, it's cuck worthy too. Have some class anon

>>149935221
I can't remember the last time that happened with a guy. But I don't read romance works so eh.

>>149917347
I call it safe sexism.

>>149916485 (OP)
I'm so burnt out from whores acting like this I am just going to walk away and not look back.

>>149916651
Yeah, I had this shit happen to me as well except she completely ditched me to be one of the popular girls.

>>149916485 (OP)
Like any normal man I've been fucking every woman I have a shot with so whatever. I don't want us to get married I just want you to be my jizz bucket a few times. We cool?

Either i slap the bitch or i walk away. I might even fuck her sometimes, but we are not going to talk everyday.

>>149916485 (OP)
Show me her feet NOW

>>149932640
So the generation of the free love 1960s produced dysfunction, and their strictly monogamous parents produced a good society.

>>149935221
The only "romance" genre that men read is harem, which eliminates the concept of the man being able to cheat entirely. But I've never seen a romance in a male targeted series where the guy outright cheats or acts like a slut.

>>149938857
Isn't harem just the women getting NTR?

>>149939036
Harem girls, even in Western harems, don't act like real people. They all act like brain dead anime girls who playfully compete with each other, like it's a sport or something. Frankly, I'd like to see more harems where the girls are in love with each other as well, but authors tend to shy away from that, because apparently it makes some male readers feel cucked.

>>149916722
Shalom my rabbi!

>>149939270
That's something I liked about the 'Jackpot' and 'Red and White, Black and Blue' fics

>>149916899
>>149916775
Cucks or roasties.

You know damn well that if we were able to we would fuck every woman we meet, you fuckers just got sour grapes

Don't hate the player, hate the game

>>149940426
>>149940249

>>149940426
If you want to be a shameless slut, be a shameless slut. But don't try to frame it as
>trying out new experiences
>discovering yourself
>a necessary event to make you realize who your true love was

>>149940463
nobitches

>>149930503
His fault for onions raging about daddy and not leaving shit alone when it was the right move

>>149939270
>harems where the girls are in love with each other as well
yuricucks should be shot

>>149940567
>Yuri
>When they're in a harem with a male master
huh

>>149940526
>>149940249

>>149916651
I fucking love it when tomboyfags get cucked.

I don't care what women do, but I do care that women writers bring this behaviour to comics and project it to the characters. Rogue had issues, but the bitch she has become now is mostly female writers to blame.
In the same way, they aren't fans of Gambit. They have the hots for him. That's two different things. They don't care about him as a character and ignore his evolution as long as he's there to be their prince charming who's gonna toss aside all their stupid decisions and propose.
Otherwise, they would care that him, someone who's been a victim of sexual assault, is married to the daughter of the assaulter who she sees as mommy dearest and who has never ever even asked to acknowledge what she did to his husband.
"If we reverse it" yadayada, women would be marching to burn down Marvel if Jean Luc Lebeau had tried to assault Rogue and Gambit didn't just cut any link to him for good. A good writer would give Remy PSTD every time Mystique's name is mentioned and make him tell Rogue she either fix this somehow or he leaves.

>>149940499
I assure you, the mpreg in my fanfiction is 100% needed to express myself.

>>149916485 (OP)
women are doing that even in marriage. they are 'happy' and the guy is perfect but .... she needs some CHAD, some kid at her high school, and BBC for the experience!!! this comic is just honest

>>149941357
In the author's defense, the previous scene is both ranting at each other's past sex lives. Don't have the image at hand, but you can see in the images that he was mad at Magneto, Joseph, and Deadpool, while she was mad at Storm, Bella, and that girl from the '12 solo. Among other things.
Then it got ruined when he was meant to just put that behind otherwise their reconciliation wouldn't have happened. Like, he literally said "it's in the past" and went to have sex.

>>149916722
I'd rather have a rapist son than a whore daughter, rabbi

>>149941759
I want this as a tattoo holy

>>149940463
>>149940249
>>149940620
Cope

>>149925880
>13 partners has the same rates as 4 partners

>>149916485 (OP)
Well?

>>149928451
Thanks!

>>149928449
Why the hell does she dress like she's a runaway trying to hide in a crowd in titles these days (hoodie and nondescript clothes) instead of her classic Jacket and Spandex look? Are they trying to base her on the MCU Anna Panquin look?

women want their cake and eat it too!

>>149942724
>Why does the girl whose touch hurts people try to be socially invisible
Hard to tell, hombre.

>>149917198
Women are wicked. They are having sex. They are barren.

>>149917198
Abortion restrictions are a state by state thing and pretty recent. Same with contraceptives and that's barely a thing. Women are just killing their babies or popping birth control like smarties and fucking up their hormones.

>>149942724
Jim Lee suit nostalgia aside, green/white with a hood IS Rogue's classic look. It's not weird that they always default back to some variation of it.

Punk rock aerobics instructor is her real best look.

>>149943039
Was this supposed to be a hood? I thought it was just a collar.

>>149943102
Yeah. It's supposed to be a hood, but she usually wore it down anyway.

Rogue was not pretty in her first appearance.

>>149943102
Jesus those tiddies

>>149942819
She can control her powers now.

>>149943359
Oh shit...did she get Thor's powers?

>>149944684
It was her debut appearance, she pretty much wrecked all of the Avengers.

There's also a neat sequence where Destiny precognitively directs a fight and completely chumps Beast.

>>149916485 (OP)
dayum she SEXY

>>149916681
/thread

>>149916651
Men are expendable and replacable.

>>149916651
Women and men have very differing views on how romance works and every time I see what women view as a good romance story my face crumples in on itself a little, like I had just taken a bite of a lemon

>>149945719
Romance is about unrealistic fantasies. Romance for men has the guy be chad thundercock who finds the one after sleeping around a lot. Women's romance is about sleeping around and still keeping the one. most people just want to get away with sleeping whoever they want and then end up with a puppy in the shape of a human.

>>149916485 (OP)
>>149916678
it's literally how it works today in case you virginoids don't know
>oh wow this is such perfect relationship!!! I wuv u so much!!!
>but wait this is TOO serious and I'm young???? I am not supposed to be in a stable relationship (eww!) I absolutely need to break up and fuck 100000000 niggers until I'm 40 and then I'll marry, have an autistic kid and then divorce!!!
women just have no concept of commitment anymore. they go from "love of my life" to "we need to break up" overnight for no particular reason with no warning signs, no talking about it, nothing. because maybe they saw some slut singer on TV or her bestie reminded them they need to "have fun" while they still can and anything resembling marriage or long term commitment is literally death
I am convinced that if a woman understands you're a committed man she'll want to leave you because she got the "proof" that she can find a committed man, which means she can get one later when she'll need one to provide for her. the signal you give when you show commitment is "you can fuck other people and get me later"
our society should just shame the men who marry roasties. the high earning lonely balding soishits who end up marrying these skanks are an absolute cancer upon society

>>149940426
>strawman
>ad hominem
>arguing with holes

>>149945789
>Romance for men has the guy be chad thundercock who finds the one after sleeping around a lot
no it fucking isn't
male romance is finding an angel who manages to pull you out of the depths of despair and makes you change yourself into a better man simply by existing so you can be good enough for her
conan is not romance he's pulp adventure
you're fucking wrong about female romance to because that shit is about plain women having some absurdly powerful male take arbitrary interest in them and kill everyone around them to demonstrate how powerful he is yet she still has him tamed somehow

>>149945789
for me, it's /ss/ with monsters

>>149917347
>This has been an issue for decades.
Try millennia.
there are love triangles in fairy tales, the bible, and greek myths.
not all love triangles involve penetration, but many of them do. especially the old ones.

>>149917347
>Why is this shit so common among comic writers?
let me explain the mindset
>what? you don't like it when your woman is a slut or fucks other people? are you afraid that she'll compare you to the other men she's sucking off? wow you're such an insecure incel! don't you understand le heckin real men who are sex havers are completely fine with open relationships? I do not feel my masculinity challenged when I clean the spunk off Tyrone's cock with my tongue, you heckin incel bigot nazi

>>149917347
The issue is that they never write the man as going "Okay. So we will never be together now." Or make him unreasonable if he does.

>>149946051
>or make him unreasonable if he does
What qualifies as the hero being unreasonable in the context of the story?
Is it the heroine saying he's being unreasonable, or do other characters need to agree with her that he's being unreasonable?

>>149916651
>reading a fantasy series (or anything) written by a woman after the year 2000
LOL

>>149946078
>What qualifies as the hero being unreasonable in the context of the story?
that he's framed as being childish or evil and the woman realizes he's not what he was meant to be (= fucking random niggers is always right)

>>149946051
In this specific context, they wrote Gambit twice telling Rogue that they were better apart. But both times, it was a man writing it: Nicieza and Asmus. Both saw that Gambit was a much better character without her. He wasn't unreasonable or mad or was portrayed negative.
In x-men 97, when Rogue tells him the same, he also doesn't yell or is even mad, but rather tells her they will now just be friends. Also, written by a man. A gay one, but a man, nevertheless.
Gambit ignoring Rogue's tendency to go for other men to test how much she loves her is women writing him badly or encouraging male writers into making him like this.
This scene in particular was written by a woman, and while it's popular among Rogue fans, Gambit fans tend to hate it bcuz it makes him look like a desperate wuss. Like it's been saying above, he can get any woman and he can do better than Rogue. And he's, he actually scolded her and told her he was the one making the relationship still working when she had given up. They were basically saying that he always had Rogue in his mind just waiting for when she decided to settle down because editorial wanted them together.
So, yes, Gambit has been written properly and reasonable whenever he's told Rogue she's out of line acting badly and taking their relationship for granted, but it's only happened when men are doing it.

>>149946108
I see, she realizes she was better off without him.
In other words, she must "win" the breakup in that scenario to "prove" that he was unreasonable.
Can you remember any examples of this? I'm drawing a blank.

>>149916651
>would never happen with a male author

Ever read the odyssey?

>>149946147
>Ever read the odyssey?
A long time ago. I'm fairly certain that Odysseus' wife never has sex with another guy even though they were apart for 20 years. In a time without e-mail.

If you're talking about Odysseus hooking up with Circe, that's an FFM love triangle and not an MMF love triangle.

Anon in womanmoment.jpg clearly means that a male author would not write an MMF love triangle exactly like the one in Reckless.

>>149916831
they were taught that. in old days they were shamed for it and it kept them more in line.

>>149946142
This case of forgiving infidelity or realizing you're unreasonable for doing that is just so common.
Watch the 37 dicks scene in Clerks. It feels like a "fuck women will do this" (and they do) but then he realizes he was being badwrong in the end and gets back with her, like every other cuck in this situation.
Countless movies advertise the "if you really love her, you'll forgive the slip up"

>>149916485 (OP)
That makes sense. I don't see the issue.

>>149946362
You're right that it fits the mold but I was hoping for a more /co/ example than Clerks
And one where the couple stays broken up instead of getting back together - because Dante doesn't stand firm on his principles.

>>149945719
(Most) Men don't literally want to do everything they see in porn, but do women literally want to do everything they see in romance?

>>149946377
Of course you dont

Rogue always been a whore at heart, wou shouldn't be surprised at all, let alone go mad

>>149916722
Yes.

Pair bonding is real.
Best done when young.
Then maintained indefinitely.
It is the key to stable relationships.
Alongside societal pressures discouraging self-gratifying promiscuity.

'Exploring your options' will inevitably, invariably result in the development of a jaded, cynical heart.
Cheapening romance and sex to mere recreation corrodes your ability to form genuine intimate connections.

This applies to men and women equally.

The only reason women are against rape is that they get fucked (i.e. their cunts get used) but the woman doesn't get anything out of it. Women should get raped a lot more often.

>>149925206
No, they just do it to stretch the plot and nothing else

>>149916485 (OP)
why are white americans so obsessed with cuckolding. I´ve never seen africans or arabs obsess over it

>>149948472
There's one big reason and it rhymes with "shoes".

>>149946121
Gambit deserves better writers. Whenever they do give him over to a guy that knows him, he becomes one of my favorite dudes in comics. But when it's a woman writing him, barring a run I'm unaware of that was wrote by a woman, they don't seem to understand that he really wears a mask, that the suave charm is something he can turn on, and the real him is a lot more protective, nuanced and mature. The chuunibyou style of his powers and his actions, his "If you do somethin', best do it with style" approach is just a bit of a symptom of being a man that got denied a childhood, rather than the whole character he is.
I dunno, it's frustrating since I'm super glad he got a popularity resurgence in recent years which means he has a good chance of showing up in more things now, and in 97 he was probably the highlight of the entire show, with how he was able to respectively break up with Rogue during her spaz out alongside going out like a champ, but I just hope they don't flanderize him to the point of erasing the troubled and more noble core of his character. The suave Cajun thief complements him and helps with his work, it's not his whole personality, and I wish women writers would "get" that more.

>>149946444
If it counts there's Local Man, where the previous main love interest was married and cucks the husband to fuck the main character, gets pregnant with the protag's kid and has an abortion and she's treated as right by other parties behind the husband and protag for having the abortion. But then again everybody in that series is more or less an unlikable cunt so that might not totally count

>everybody likes Gambit now

Man, I remember when you'd get laughed at for saying he was your favorite.

>>149948632
I don't remember that. Everyone used to love him in the 90's because of the show

>>149916722
It's only not a bad thing if you can actually move on from the past partners before you "settle down". Also if they don't get jealous themselves over less like looking at other women irl or on a screen. But that's usually not how it works and they can't fully move on or get over their own possessiveness. If you want to be a whore and dread commitment then just stay enjoying being a whore. Stop with the retarded cope like saying you need other dicks inside you before you can love someone kek. Shut the fuck up and open an onlyfans or something. Speedrun those holes.

>>149916831
Yeah I would love people acting like intelligence means anything good for a relationships with women. Intelligence isn't even specifically saying what you know just that you know one or multiple things well. It's not being smart in everything. It also doesn't involve being likeable at all, you can easily know a lot but still be a cunt so who fucking cares what you know?

>>149948354
Would you want your holes stretched out by an ugly man?

>>149948838
Forget about the rapist being an ugly man, he'd also have to be hideously retarded if the only way he can get laid is by rape

>>149948838
What's wrong with women being raped by a man they consider beneath them, which is like 99.9999999% of all men on earth? Perfect way to teach them some humility.

>>149917608
>Doubt

>>149948943
If it's no big deal then it should be fine for you to get fucked by men you don't want too though

>>149948549
Marjorie Liu(?) did an acceptable job with him in his X-23 run, tbf. She nailed the fact that his bonding with kids is due to himself never been allowed to have a childhood, which made him the perfect guy to protect Laura. The story he says about how he identifies with the Fox tale of the Little Prince is his trauma of always having to leave people behind speaking and what helped Laura to get better.
You nail everything you said about him. Gambit is a mask he uses. His womanising ain't some quirky aspect of him, but rather him at his most self destructive version. The women he sleeps with randomly, he has admitted he knows aren't good people. He either looks for strong women because he never had a mother or he was trying to look for his ex wife in them as she's a trained assassin (that's before meeting the xmen). Even his father was surprised he had become so cocky and he admitted he became this in order to actually turn this good.
The people who described him as he really is are Bella and Mercy (his sister in law) who have met him since he was a child: a man with the soul of a child and a guy who's never stopped feeling inadequate. Good writers are so good writing him that he's even fooled casual readers who think he's so happy being a whore.
Which is funnier in the context of x-men 97, because it's implied too that his flirty mannerisms is something Rogue asked him to do so people think he's not hurt by her rejection. It's not like he didn't enjoy the company of ladies, but it was also another layer. Him being devastated by her leaving him and realising it was for nothing is his actual feelings showing up.

>>149946204
Different versions of the myth however did state that Penelope fucked the suitors, in fact, the god Pan was born when Penelope fucked all 108 suitors

>>149948838
>>149948861
>can't refute the argument thus resorts to deflection and petty insults
Femoids spotted.

>>149949506
>Women should be raped
>B-But not MY precious asshole
Retard spotted

The banning of slut shaming has destroyed america (manwhores need to be treated the same also).

>>149950796
It's women that need to learn humility.

>>149951103
You're not humble yourself though

Women only ever really commit to their children. You should expect women in current year to follow their impulses regardless of what you do to encourage loyalty.

Just get a dog instead.

>>149951397
No the answer is simple the woman has to know that if she isnt loyal she loses her children.

>>149951397
>Women only ever really commit to their children.
Not remotely. Too many don't mind putting their kids in direct danger with predators as long as they can keep them as boyfriends.

The good outcome is that people truly love Gambit and hate Rogue and I'm 100% on board with that.
Divorce them and send him back to New Orleans to the one woman he rightfully married by the Church as God mandates instead of keeping him with this floozy.

I wouldn't say anything. I would just listen to what she had to say. And that's what no one else did.

>>149951495
Is hating Rogue really a good outcome? I don't want to hate Rogue. I want Rogue to be a good character again.

I want all of the X-Men to be good characters again.

>>149916722
>settling down
Such a Jewish term. When is marriage a bad thing? “Hoe phases” aren’t normal, they are satanic.
Islam is right, hoes need to be thrown off roofs

>>149951546
Rogue's amazing as a character, but what she's become we need to hate because it's not good.

>>149916485 (OP)
just leave her, oh my god is everyone on this board so egotistical that they can't see that they're just bags of meat that meet other bags of meat for "love"

>>149935716
walk away anon, the world still spins, and matter still rots regardless of your feelings

>>149951546
Ok, we don't hate Rogue, but she still needs to stay away from the Cajun.

>>149951876
*tips fedora*

>>149952676
get cancer, like actual radiation ridden cancer, faggot

>>149952676
You're just jealous they earned more reddit gold than you with that post

>>149952749
Geez why so egotistical? Just leave the thread.

>>149952809
because being in the same magnetic field as retard bottom feeding semites like you makes my blood boil, you will never become one with everything and you are alone on your journey forever

>>149916651
>Gothic romance indie comic
>Enjoy it even if I'm not usually into these sorts of things
>Male love interest for the protagonist for every previous arc suddenly turns into a possessive douchebag whose clinginess pushes the main protagonist away from him
>Relationship ends when he turns violent and is put to sleep (unconscious)
>The other long established couple broke up as well
>Main character gets with the now broken up male of said romance (who was dating one of her best friends) as said best friend sadly leaves the little remains of the plot
>Main protagonist worries about what's gonna happen to the other two people involved but is told "Everything will be fine, I promise. I love you"
>All while this is happening, we're given extensive focus to the pathetic comic relief character and the crazy, delusional girl failure who's in love with him somehow

>>149916485 (OP)
Don't pretend like you wouldn't be the same if you turned into a woman.

>>149952952
That's a lot of malding over some meat

>>149953231
if I turned into a woman I would be completely fine being part of a harem full of hot girls who I could scissor with yet women act like this extremely common male fantasy is disgusting. I think open relationships are gross but I don't have a problem with polygamy or throuples or whatever the kids are calling a group of people who only fuck each other and not random strangers these days.
Actually it's always surprised me that despite comic authors being obsessed with virtue signaling progressive politics and their obsession with soap opera drama and love triangles that I can't think of a single major Big 2 comics character who's actually cut the gordian knot and just been in a relationship with multiple people at once, it's always cheating or somebody faking their death or an evil clone or whatever.
The creator of wonder woman was in a BDSM menage a trois with his wife and live-in-mistress in the fucking 1940s, but Claremont couldn't just have fucking Cyclops decide "oh nice I have TWO wives now!" after he impregnated Madelyn and Jean returned revealing she was a clone? MJ and Felicia are freaky bisexual party girls who love each other and Peter but the guy who's a handsome genius strong enough to fight the Hulk can't finagle a threesome? Seriously?

Pretty sure the only canon harem I've seen in big 2 comics lately is Jed Mackay adding an ancient Chinese vampire from the Ming dynasty who has a bunch of hot vampire brides casually mentioned when she's helping moon knight take down an upstart vampire pyramid scheme. And yeah if I was turned into a woman I'd be totally down for that arrangement so I don't think you can say men are hypocrites lol

>>149916485 (OP)
I would punch her for wasting my time and thinking that I was some sort of cuck who would accept her back after going and fucking a bunch of other guys.

>>149951397
>Women only commit to their children
Get a load of Mr. Had A Great Childhood over here!

>>149916681
Based

>>149952749
>>149952758
To be fair, you need a high IQ to really enjoy rick and morty

>>149954135
Nothing is sacred anymore

>>149953009
Lol, is this an actual comic?

>>149951397
>Women only ever really commit to their children.
poledancersinglemotherkickinghertoddlersoninthefacewhileshootinganOnlyFansvideoandnotevennoticing.webm

>>149916485 (OP)
dump her ass

>>149956996
Yep
The final issue's back cover implies the heart broken best friend and the now abusive male love interest get together

>>149916485 (OP)
>If I actually want a relationship with her still after all this time
Okay.
>If I don't
Is there a reason you're telling me this?

>>149958306
Absolute kek

Still not as bad as that one Mockingbird series.

>>149916594
Gambit wasn't mad and the author made a point about how it wasn't his business what she did before with her body, because this is what a man raised by people who were alive 200 years ago would say.
He did get mad when she faked her death and didn't tell him. For about five minutes, he thought she had died. This happened during their honey moon. I think he did yell at her and said she always did stuff like this, acting without telling him. He was truly mad.

>>149925827
>There's a 0.1% that aren't like that
So, those woman get married young to other dudes before I ever meet them. Good for them of course but I'm still left with the hoe's.