Thread 149919726

nasutroons out

>>149919726 (OP)
Makima humiliated Gojo in the last Thread

...

Yor vs Roberta will be Ben’s ryona masterpiece.

>>149919726 (OP)
This could have a gunfight section and a spaceship section.

No more chainscaling.

>>149919764
Boberta loses because Yor is more recent and popular.

KKKKKIIIIIINNNNGGGGGGGTTTTTOOOOOSSSS

>>149919774
You know who gets his 1-A tiering without chainscaling?

>>149919785
I mean Yor also hits tennis balls at supersonic speeds and stops cars with kicks what does Roberta even have against that?

>can't compete with goku unless they give him the multiversal shit they've been rejecting the entire show and only sort of acknowledged this season
>probably not enough one off haxes and rpg items to beat bing bing wahoo now that stats are more or less equalized
>not enough cosmology retardbabble to beat the flashes
>won't beat oni girl because the guy astroturfing the matchup insists that kasen should fight diet sonic
Is there any hope for him?

>>149919757
>Kratos sees picrel
>says fuck it and stabs himself with the Blade of Olympus again

>>149919769
Han Solo was a fucking hilarious character in Legends. Dude was living on "fuck it, we ball" energy.

>>149919726 (OP)
For the record, if you will.
Every animated Superman?
Fodder.
Every live action Superman?
Fodder
Every comic Superman?
Fodder

Composite Superman?
Bitch made.

We love miss Makima and her 9 incher here.

>>149919798
certainly not the character in that image. THIS character, on the other hand...

>>149919801
Guns, maid outfit and glasses.

>>149919825
Post Kratos being stronger than a sub human

This battle would top even Goku vs Superman in popularity.

>>149919814
This season had Kratos lore'ng his way to beat Asura; them having Sonic beat Goku would not surprise me at all at this point.

>>149919845
this nigga eating beans

>>149919845
BEEEEEEEAAAAAAAANTOOOOSSSSSSSS

Fuck "Outer 1-A lore chainscaling" shit. Post street level battles.

>>149919870
why wouldn't John Wick dominate?

>>149919823
I adore the silly and/or smug facial expressions she does in the manga. I feel like fan art often misses that part and doubles down on her femme fatale angle too much.

>>149919801
>what does Roberta even have against that?
Guns. Yor gets outranged pretty badly. So as long as Roberta can keep her distance, she has a chance. Yor is not invincible and has taken bullets to her ass and that basically fucked her up to the point she needed to drink pufferfish poison to get better.

>>149919870
feels wild we've never gotten a proper cowboy battle on the show

Ass vs Ass

>>149919890
Wasn't that purely due to the pain because she got shot in the butt and had to sit down the entire day?

>>149919879
You basically play as a one-man army in GTA too, desu, so Michael is not that far behind.

>>149919890
>THROB
Are we getting another big willy in here?

>>149919908
Stop being gay

>>149919879
probably Michael's Bullet Time which gives fucking retarded speed if they use it

>>149919919
Oh, okay.

>>149919845
Why didn't Kratos save his bowl of beans with his MFTL speed?

>>149919947
Outerversal gravity

Post kino

>>149919919
If he's considering futa on male that's incredibly gay however futa on female is the straightest pairing as determined by powerscaling

>>149919947
Immeasurable speed bowl of beans.

>>149919890
I don't disagree but Yor is ridiculously fast and even as you showed her getting shot isn't necessarily a death sentence

>>149919870
"Ah, shit! Here we go again!"

>>149919960
We have to consider the futa first. So let's look at the last digit and see how big Yor is...

>>149919926
Michael also killed pretty much a whole army of Merryweather agents by himself in that movie premier mission where they invade his house.

>>149919870
Nah, John vs John is where its at

>>149919879
Literal bullet timing for Michael

>>149919995
GLOBALAVERAGEor...

>>149919970
Jacket loses, no? He dies to one hit from anything in his home universe

>>149919870
Tony Soprano vs Walter White or Christopher Moltisanti vs Jesse Pinkman

>>149919726 (OP)
what would that fight even look like

>>149919898
Deathstroke scales higher

>>149920014
Perfectly balanced. Not too big, not too small. Gold standard.

I thought every Eastern god would be as easy to defeat as Asura...
... BIG MISTAKE!

>>149920030
>mob boss and top level enforcer versus 'old guy with cancer' and 'drug addict retard who has gotten his ass beat by said old guy with cancer'

>>149919900
True but the main point is to show she’s not invulnerable in combat. She did have some struggle against that swordsman assassin during the cruise ship arc. Bullets can hurt her and she’s mainly a close distance fighter.
>>149919965
Yeah, I think she dodged a sniper bullet but I think being overwhelmed with gunfire by Roberta is a bit different from that. The point is it’s very important Roberta doesn’t directly try to go blow for blow with Yor to have a chance.

>>149920001
ERB

>>149919870
Point Man vs someone

...ducking the comic one I see.

>>149920054
They have no answer to Walter's pipe bomb, fulminated mercury, ricin poisoning and trunk machine gun.

I had a interesting thought experiment recently: what if tooru or wonder of u got cursed by the ring video tape? Could Wonder of U successfully protect itself/tooru from Sadako?

Bonus round: could Wonder of U work against something like the grudge?

>>149920024
CJ is kind of an insane one too, even compared to other GTA protagonists.

He broke into Area 51 (his universe's version of it, at least), killed everyone, stole a jetpack, and flew away with it while avoiding missiles.

Didn't he also stealth kill his way through a whole ship filled with enemies starting only with a knife?

>>149920001
>>149920068
EPIC RAP BATTLES OF HISTOOOORRRRRYYYYYY!

KINGTOS!

VS

DOGSUUUUUUURA!!!!

BEGIN!

>>149920120
I don't know. Why U asking me?

>>149919757
The better man downplays himself...

>>149920110
The entirety of Breaking Bad would probably get soloed by the Atwell Avenue Boys

Were we robbed?

>>149920046
Those jeet gods? Have SMT scaling specifically 4A

>>149920133
She wouldn't be that injured after no diffing Peter Parker.

>>149920178
Bond stat stomps borne so no

>>149920120
Would Wonder of U just curse Sadako from the beginning as it very clearly a hostile threat against his user in the curse

>>149919870
More of an intelligence match, but still.

>>149920181
Anon that's Peter's blood

>>149920120
Yes. Not because Sadako is weak, but because WoU controls calamity, which is a fundamental force. She just can't get past it - and arguably her curse is an expression of calamity in itself.
Sadako crawling out of the TV could probably end like those mildly funny memes where she slips up or TV is too high or it's too small to fit her fat ass through or whatever.

>>149920120
Wonder of U is probably superior conceptually to Sadako
Something interesting that is never brought up though is what would happen if Tooru tried to hurt himself, accidentally or intentionally, would WoU subconsciously activate so Tooru never watches the tape to begin with? Even in the match with 096 would Wonder of U prevent Tooru from looking at 096's picture?

>>149920133
I love ze frog so much. It was weird how everyone started seething at her when she didn't want to break the rules.

>>149919870
They are around building level with supersonic speeds, so I guess high tier street level

>>149920243
No. WoU prevents other forces with ill intent from chasing/harming him or Tooru. Tooru being a retard is a wholly Tooru thing.

>>149920209
You can see the way her arm is being positioned it looks broken or injured in some way

>>149920281
She's just tired from jerking me off.

How does this webm make you feel?

What if they did a rematch? Time Trapper?

>>149920291
>Nicole just Penance Stares Lois and ages her 100 years

>>149920120
Sadako put a gag character into a healing coma. She would body Tooru

>>149920139
>WOOF WOOF
>moves at a GAZILLION TIMES MFTL+ and instantly gores Kratos
>Wiz: I guess kratos didn't have the dog inside of him
>Boomstick: Well I guess he has it now
>next time
>CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES
>That 2hoe oni vs bong sanic

>>149920307
Top 3 best finishers in DB. Holy Shit Doomsday is so cool.

>>149920307
>How does this webm make you feel?
Old. Useless. A complete disappointment to my younger self.

>>149920291
Lois doesn't have nearly has much combat experience as Nicole. Also everyone Giggidies her so she's a whore.

>>149920307
Delete this DISRESPECTFUL filth!

I curse Sadako with being a cutie
Lmao get fucked no one is scared of you

>>149920307
Did Hulk really didn't kill Doomsday a single time in this DB?

>>149920392
Hulk was TEACHING Doomsday.

ASURAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

>>149919774
This is the problem I have with Dragon Ball

>>149920307
TT Doomsday is his strongest version so yeah they'd use him in a post Immortal Hulk wank world

>>149920307
Good finisher for the outcome they went with, but I disagree with the outcome

>>149920423
Zamasu was an amazing villain
No other bad guy in DB has ever even approached the level of feeling himself that Zamasu had

>>149920412
>mfw Kratos could drown but DB said he could breathe in space because of Ares’s illusion

>>149920024
He absolutely loses 9 times out of 10
Hotline Miami (as in the actual game) is all about slamming your head into the wall until you get that last 10th time when he wins

Bring me JOBIBITO

Ass Ketchup, prepare to to be smothered by my giant hairy balls

>>149920454
>No other bad guy in DB has ever even approached the level of feeling himself that Zamasu had

>>149920423
Super is goody af with their potrayal of these multiversal characters. Z and OG had it easier to mask it since they had lower powerlevels and generally smarter direction with fights.
STILL. I cannot comprehend a character blowing up a planet casually and then fighting by throwing people into boulders and punching people with nothing that visualizes the fact that these punches would "shake"" the universe.
They use basic ki blasts that both look the same to on one hand evaporate a moon and on the other create an explosion that looks like a dynamite went off. There is no in between with these moves.

>>149920243
WoU should only activate once pursuit is started. Technically, Tooru entering the kayako residence or doing something to curse himself would only begin the conditions for pursuit to begin. I don't know how WoU would react against something like pic related.

>>149920478
Who is this? John Finalfantasy?

>>149919845
Why won't Kratos stop eating beans?

>>149920507
GT had this problem too
Dragon Ball ended with Z

>>149920307
Pure soul.

>>149919822
dubs of truth, scholar

>>149920333
Lois is actually a blackbelt in taejutsu and a champion boxer, but Nicole has supernatural powers in combat down to being able to use a knockoff kamehameha, so I'm betting on Nicole

>>149920333
Lois did no diff 3 kryptonians

>>149920526
This is Meteor aka warrior of light from FF14. So yes John Final Fantasy

>>149920515
To be fair with the amount of people Sadako has killed the karmic retribution aspect of calamity might just instantly destroy her the minute she so much as thought about pursuing Tooru like it did with the one prisoner

>>149920515
>I don't know how WoU would react against something like pic related
Considering that WoU is perfectly capable of turning even the most mundane shit deadly or causing completely schizophrenic series of events to occur, it's really hard to gauge how it would work out. Also ghosts are implied to be related to stands so there is also that angle too.

I hate Murata's One Punch Man, but I really like this match up.

>>149920495
When's the fight?

>>149920650
It's pretty cool to imagine. Stands vs ghosts? Maybe araki should explore that in part 9.

Post anti-feature

>>149920650
at some point you just WANT WoU to come out ahead

>>149920638
But to destroy her, she first needs to be somewhere. Where is she when she's not chasing someone? Is she corporeal in that moment? Does she physically travel to her target or is it sn instant teleportation?

>>149919845
why does it always fuck up the legs

>>149920736
Presumably she would just accidentally kill herself as soon as she manifested like the prisoner did with himself

>>149920737
Norsetos hardly has any details on his legs that actually pop in his design

>>149919870
Arguably more building level but close enough desu.

who's winning?

>>149920819
Doesn't Frank take everything besides speed? IIRC, he even has a 10 in Intelligence.

>>149920815
well sure, but they make his legs so short

>>149920819
Frank is the man, but Adam Sandler just bas some retarded feats and statements.
>>149920892
That's just a gameplay crutch, not his actual in-universe stats.

>>149920892
Nah Frank is fucked. Even if he has perfect 10s according to game stats, his durability is still way below that of Adam, his speed is lower, his reactions are way slower, his weaponry isn't nearly as impressive.

>>149920892
edgerunners over the top anime autism unfortunately gives smasher pretty much everything

>>149920892
It depends what gear Smasher has. If Smasher is wearing the DaiOni power armor he out everythings Frank, but we haven't seen him use that in-universe since Cyberpunk 2020 which is over 50 years ago in 2077 canon

>>149920917
Ah, I forgot that Adam has the TTRPG statements as well.

>>149920819
I think Adam is may be stronger, since his weakest body from the Cyberpunk 2020 rpg book could toss tanks or armoured cars around if I remember correctly, and his 2077 body is far stronger.
His Cyberwear is also arguably much better than franks technology.

>>149919870
"Evil Dead Rising"

>>149920954
Smasher has been busted since the beginning anon

>>149920972
When he wore pic related in the old 2020 TTRPG he had 52 strength in a TTRPG that normally has its stats cap out at 10

>>149919870
Max Payne v John Wick
Revy v some other gunslinging anime person
Snake Plissken vs. Mad Max or John McClane
Big Boss v Nick Fury

>>149920954
Smasher has been busted since the beginning anon

>>149920972
When he wore pic related in the old 2020 TTRPG he had 52 strength in a TTRPG that normally has its stats cap out at 10

>>149920993
Harry gets out gunnned hard, can his stupid electricity scaling carry him?

>>149921035
>>149921058
okay idk what's wrong with the pic let me try a different version

>>149921058
>>149921035
The INVISIBLE DaoOni...
Reminds me of a TTRPG I played where a character could do 90 damage in a game where 20 HP is already high tier.

>>149919870
Can't get more street tier than an army battle of literal whos.

>>149921056
>Big Boss v Nick Fury
FUCKING PEAK!!!

>>149919774
I'm afraid they're gonna have to remake Diocard then and the result's gonna be different

>>149921033
it's still insane that they used frank against RE of all things (what even were the connections other than capcom zombie protags?) and then RE has never even come back since

>>149920945
>his weaponry isn't nearly as impressive

That's where you're wrong. You're forgetting that plasma weaponry reduces enemies into puddles of goo, even giant lizards like deathclaws or building sized kaiju like mirelurk queens. The amount of energy involved to do that is enormous, it's similar to mechagodzilla's absolute zero cannon.

>>149921070
His what scaling

>>149921148
Dodging the electric shots from the cowboy.

>>149921092
The popular one for an RE return is Albert Wesker vs Liquid Snake.

>>149920819
>Who the FUCK are you?
>Me. FRANK HORRIGAN.UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE

I can hear this death battle

>>149921092
Besides that? Nothing and I never saw anyone suggesting it back in the day. I think even shit like Chris vs Stryker got more requests.

well i'm waiting

>>149919726 (OP)
My money is on Grox, because spore has more outlandish space opera tier stuff going on in it that all tomorrows but I might be wrong.

>>149921091
Alucard also gets hit by this, so maybe Dio will still win.

>>149921161
That is certainly not how I would have interpreted that scene, especially since he gets brained with a thrown frying pan in the same fight

>>149921283
He kinda needs to the speed advantage, to not get instantly destroyed by man in black far superior technology.

>>149920678
two more weeks

>>149921283
KINGtos defeated an immeasurably fast++++++ character with a catapult, Harry just needs to invoke his power

>>149919726 (OP)
Superman? Heh, those are some nice TRICKS you've got going on, pretty stellar special effects. Are you ready to face the WORLD CHAMP?

Ashbros, you guys have two weeks to think of a counter. Good luck.

Anyone got that webm of Greta twerking?

>>149921316
>KINGtos defeated an immeasurably fast++++++ character with a catapult
Fuark… BEAST!

Next time will be Ruby vs Maka and we'll spend all 3 weeks talking about Hulk vs Godzilla, Kratos vs Asura, and Ash vs Yugi.

>>149921404
at least the first week will be dedicated solely to melties over hulkzilla before the SHARTos spam starts up again

>>149919822
>>149919408
Jiren would've killed Goku many times over if there was never a no kill rule at the tournament.

>>149921358
greta?

>>149920707
Those punches and slams would've killed the Hulk btw.

>>149920504
>bugkek
Android sagas was the start of the horrible writing. Freeza is the superior villain.

>>149920707
I always laugh at this

>>149921468
He probably would have just obliterated him the first time he started fighting back, ie after he went Blue

>>149920819
Frank punches Smasher once and he explodes just like that Deathclaw did

>>149919726 (OP)
If we took all the existing contestants, teamed them up with their canon strongest nemesis, and put them into a battle royale who'd win? Superman and Darkseid? Spongebob and Doodlebob?

>>149920819
Smasher can move so fucking fast he can see bullets in slow motion, how the fuck doesn't he stomp?

>>149920707
The ice is using Ki Control obviously.

>>149921708
Batman and Joker are protected by plot so them

>>149921708
Kek imagine superman losing to SpongeBob.

>>149921739
Batman and joker would just be batkek, so he sends them all to the fortnite cucksheed.

>>149921708
Simon and Anti-Spiral but Simon has to carry him across the finish line.

>>149921708
Darkseid and Orion.

>>149920819
>Frank Horrigan, United States Secret Service agent has the hardest fight in his series
>Adam Jobber stands around like a cuck and then gets dismantled with ease by a schizophrenic with Keanu Reeves talking inside their head
Smasher wins
>But the DaiOni gives Smasher 52 strength!
They'd only use his 2077 version which doesn't have it and you can't compare different TTRPG stats anyway

We agree that Batman and Robin had gay sex back in the day, right?

>>149921816 (me)
Horrigan wins not Smasher, forgive my mistake...

>>149921823
I mean it's why Batwoman had to be created before they turned her into a dyke so yeah

Can Dragon Ball scholars post a single character in their verse moving this fast?

>>149921823
>We agree that Batman and Robin had gay sex back in the day, right?
yes, anon, yes.
gay sex

moving on

>>149921885
Invincibros…

>>149921851
goku and cell can teleport

>>149921092
Wesker and Alice are waiting for their turns.

So that's it? What we some kinda, suicide squad?

>>149921885
D-doesn't count

>>149920133
Brolybros...

>>149921942
this canonically took him 29 minutes btw (the fusion ended shortly after)

Does Composite Barbie defeat Monster High + Bratz?

>>149921942
INVICIXISTERS EMERGENCY DISCORD MEETING NOOOOOOOWWWWWW!!

Batman should learn the Mafuba and seal the joker in a rice cooker.

>>149921851
I can post power level numbers

>>149921961
nolan destroying the flaxan planet took a full year

>>149920120
we using novel Sadako who just kills you with small pox?

>>149921978
Y-you weren't supposed to bring that up...

>>149921961
>took him 29 minutes
uh, didn't he run out of energy instead?

>>149921967
"Barbie: Star Light Adventure", Barbie restores every star in the universe by dancing.

>>149921970
Why doesn't Batman just rape the Joker?

ok, good news about the bed bug situation. put a boxspring and mattress protector on, used that diatomaceous earth powder, three kinds of bed bug killing spray, wrapped old wood in seran wrap, and placed bed bug traps. also steam cleaned my mattress to kill any possible eggs
haven't been bitten in 2 days

but also, pity win banner, lol

>>149922012
Why doesn't the justice system kill the Joker vis electric chair?

>>149921978
He collapsed their civilization and forced them to build a portal. He didn't want to wipe them out completely off the cuff

>>149922012
>Why doesn't Batman just rape the Joker?
Gordon, please

>>149921970
Why would Batman willingly pass up free opportunities to beat the shit out of Jason when he tries killing Batman's bf?

>>149922029
insanity plea.

>>149922043
why doesn't a rouge police murder him?

>>149922055
because she's too busy stealing the master emerald.

>>149922055
Batman can move at MFTL+++++++++ Speed when he detects the jonklha is in danger.

>>149922029
because for some reason the one time they finally decided to do it Joker was actually innocent so Batman had to save him and get the actual guy responsible for the crime

>>149921851
It's freaky how fast and high Viltrumites can move during fights. Gives me vertigo almost

>>149922055
They're too afraid that Batpsycho will paralyze them from the neck down if they kill Joker

>>149922069
>"One of the smartest humans in the DC universe!"
>Looks inside
>Fucking retard

>>149922055
Rouge is the bat thief. Rogue is someone going rogue or that hot bitch from X-men.

>>149920133
This is froppy brutalizing a civilian who illegally used their quirk to defend themselves from a robber btw

>>149922105
MFTL++++++++++ gun obviously.

Who wins?

The editorial force that keeps Peter Parker single, constant pain, and forever away from MJ

Against

The editorial force that's keeping Joker alive

>>149922106
True.

>>149922105
Couldn't they just make the Joker smarter to explain why he keeps escaping, instead of making Batman a dumbass who keeps saving him?

>>149922055
The rogue police are too busy protecting Joker's life when Batman accidentally goes out of line and forgets he's not supposed to kill him

If Godzilla ends up losing I don't think Ultima's reputation will ever recover

>>149922116
Parker

>>149922105
Superman kissed the clown to save his life. You can't tell me they're not in love

>>149922146
Wait, Goji, if it's not official, how do YOU know that one?

>>149922146
I mean yeah, Singular Point has been shat on as being boring and soulless scifi shit and the only reason people have begun to suck it off is the retarded novel wank

>>149922160
>Superman
Batman*
I'm getting them mixed up because /dbg/ tells me they got the same power level

>*cleans the evil villains soul like a laundromat machine and reincarnating them*

BOVNDLESS.

>>149921961
Super Saiyan aura doesn't last 29 minutes in the sky, never has. He did that in seconds

>>149922177
why are DC's finest so zesty?

>>149922183
>they need a machine
>meanwhile the average shinigami in bleach just needs to tap you
dragon sissies...

>>149922116
At the very least the Peter thing is retarded writers but they also have a lot of highly publicized Elseworlds like the Sonyverse and Spiderverse and alt comic continuities where they're together. Also Peter does manage to pull and things weren't that bad before Wells

The Joker thing has been legitimate brain damage for everyone involved for decades now, culminating in multiple storylines where Batman saves his life for literally no reason, and even in continuities where he dies like Arkham he STILL comes back via mental hallucinations and Batman acts overly sad over his death

>>149922177
>>149922218
I can't believe Superman beats Goku even in homosexual relations with his best friend...

>>149922240
>I can't believe Sup-MMM....!!! Mmmm...

>>149922167
Hulk knows it because he was trying to argue that anthro gojira was better in sex, Godzilla knows it because he was the one arguing with the Hulk.

>>149922260
He said BEST FRIEND, Krillin is Goku's best friend

>>149922170
I think it's enjoyable. It's just a bit harder to understand due to all the hard sci-fi stuff, especially in the novelization. Beyond that, it's very much a Godzilla story.

>>149922167
>Listen man I don't have a Mothra of my own and things get pretty lonely

YES.....YESSS!!!!!

>>149921609
Henry oneshots Jin then loses in a cutscene

>>149922183
You turn into a Janemba type demon if those evil impurities contaminated you.

>>149922313
FUJO

>>149922283
WRONG. Saiyan Pride is for Saiyans only

DCEU Shazam vs Movie Sonic

who wins?

>>149922330
>You turn into a Janemba type demon if those evil impurities contaminated you
imagine if it contaminated somebody actually strong

>>149922313
Yoko....I know you're depressed ever since you got sidelined by the story

>>149922298
dude I know that the main thing about every Godzilla story is that there's barely any Godzilla but the motherfucker doesn't even actually show up until well over halfway through

>>149922310
In Singular Point, Mothra would just be an aspect of Godzilla anyway...

Why is DBZ the most queer coded animanga in the world?

>>149922363
watched by mexicans

>>149922350
Most Godzilla films where he's the villain take a while for him to show up. It's especially the case in SP since they give screentime to the "lesser" kaiju first. Godzilla himself also starts out in some not-Godzilla-like forms

>>149922336
Let Mr. Green get some of that...

>>149922360
>Godzilla, stop playing with yourself!

>>149922398
>I'm trying to STOP them from kissing, Scott... But the homoeroticism in their minds just won't budge...

>>149922360
I think Mothra would be like the embodiment of nature trying to stop Ultima from invading the world
But who knows

>>149922398
Fuck off, Scott.

You didn't do shit in that orgy island of yours

>>149922363
>the most queer coded animanga in the world?
that's Naruto, bruva

>>149922146
Of course. Most kaijubros I've seen hate it and people only bring up suggszilla to win vs debates, once it gets fraudchecked there will be nothing left.

What made zoomers hate powerscaling?

>>149922417
Would that count as selfcest or masturbation?

>>149922451
a wet dream i guess

Name one mutant who isn't a degenerate

>>149922448
Most kaijufags I've seen enjoyed it and want a season 2

>>149922479
that one guy whose only power is being completely forgettable

>>149922449
The moment when feats took a backseat to statements and everyone is in a collective arms race to wank their favorite character to multiversal or higher. Remember back when just being planet level was impressive?

>>149922398
Cyclops...The professor hasn't been the same since he tried to stop Yoko...

>>149922448
>suggszilla

>>149922449
Because they were told their favorite character loses

>>149922449
Ya'll got crazy

>>149922430
JJK is gayer

>>149922449
They are unable to recognize that people can know that "the author can do whatever they want" while still "properly" debating who would win in a fight.

>>149922496
>hat one guy whose only power is being completely forgettable
who?

9 trillion
times
FTL
lowballed

>>149922479
none of them

>>149922529
I forgot

>>149922449
Because they rightly recognize the wankfest is retarded

>>149922533
>homophobia
>and I guess he fucking froze the earth
I mean, he was mind controled, but still...

One more week until Ultima fraud check

>>149922449
To be fair, I think the modern death battle style of power scaling is fucking retarded. Kratos is the biggest and most recent example of ignoring everything the games show to wank a character as hard as posssible

>>149922533
>Homophobia
My HERO

Max Payne vs every GTA protagonist

>>149922533
>exploded a star and killed an entire alien race
>as bad as outing someone as a fag
i fucking hate reddit so much

>>149922533
Logan's doesn't seem bad

>>149922398
>Scott telling anyone to stop with homosexual fantasies
lol

>>149922449
Zoomers were raised on shit like nu-Marvel and Soi Wars where all the writing is logically inconsistent, and thus they assume all stories are just meant to be like that. If a story IS logically well-written (and thus is good for powerscaling, like Dragon Ball), then it’s “poorly written”. If someone criticizes their story for not making sense and for characters jobbing or getting glazed out of nowhere, then they’re labelled as “toxic”. It’s corporate cult mentality.

>>149922449
Ya'll got crazy

>>149922533
Rogue needs a medal

>>149922589
>If a story IS logically well-written (and thus is good for powerscaling, like Dragon Ball)
>like Dragon Ball
>Dragon Ball

>>149922601
carol wasn't that bad back then

>>149922533
The sentinels are necessary and Genosha needed to die.

>>149922533
That time Ice Man froze the Earth and made Thor his bitch, thinking Ragnarok was nigh, was the moment I stopped taking Thor seriously

>>149922606
Superman would shit his pants seeing this image, btw

>>149922589
Star Wars (besides the Sequels) is generally pretty consistent when it comes to powerscaling stuff. At worst, you have extra material making Force users way stronger than they are in the movies, but you can chalk that up to genre limitations.

>>149922589
There is nothing logical about dragon ball scaling

Glass is his kryptonite

>>149922606
Rock solos.

>>149922606
Literally all of these things beat a tree btw so Superman is weaker than Goku

>>149922606
Ok to be fair
Dragon Ball may suck story wise
But the characters are very likeable
So people enjoy the series not just because of power scalling but because they like the characters
People try to portray Goku as this invincible being because they grew up watching him kinda like a kid thinking his dad could beat anyone
Meanwhile Solo Levelling is only for power scalling because there is nothing else to care about

I'm CONSISTENT
I NEVER job
I DON'T rely on others for chain scaling
I SHOW my feats and PROVE my statements
And my wife LOVES me

>>149922496
>>149922529
>>149922541
Forgetmenot was a fat simp

>>149922650
Why didn't he just dodge that with his 10 TRILLION TIMES MASSIVELY FTL++++++++++++++++ speed?

>>149922710
Asura, Edward Elric, Avatar Aang…

>>149922716
His stand moves that fast, DIO himself is only as fast as a (fairly old and reasonably powerful) vampire, which makes him a bit above wall level

>>149922716
>Why didn't he just dodge that with his 10 TRILLION TIMES MASSIVELY FTL++++++++++++++++ speed?
the glass moved faster still

Godzilla Ultima lost to THIS?!

>>149922645
It TECHNICALLY isn’t powerscaling because it’s tech and not people, but one egregious example is the fatass bombers from TLJ. They were slower, weaker, and seemingly more poorly-built than Y-wings from 30 years ago. In which case, why would they even bother using them over Y-wings? Why did technology for the Rebellion/Resistance get weaker when they won the previous war, and are supposed to be the main governing body of the galaxy in this era?

Ok fine I admit IT! I'm NOTHING but a FRAUDULENT JOBBER that relies on my BROWN fans making shit up for me to go above MOUNTAIN LEVEL!

>>149922710
The one and only SON GOKU! Not Superman, Thor, or anyone else, just THE SAIYAN, THE STAR OF DRAGON BALL Z! CHA-LA HEAD CHA-LA!

>>149922757
I did say "Besides the Sequels" for a reason

>>149922710
Not a single comic book character...

>>149922716
He was feeling sleepy

>>149922735
Asura's whole thing is that he jobbed in the beginning and he died to yasha

>>149922770
Pomni...

>>149922589
When it comes to powerscaling the best authors can do is avoid being logically inconsistent and dumb as much as possible, because they will always inevitably slip up and write themselves into a corner eventually and fuck up the powerscaling because of it anyway so they just need to avoid shitting the bed too hard. However, Dragon Ball is definitely not a good example of it lmao.

>>149922710
KINGtos!!!

>>149922770
Jax...

>>149922790
Post the official version not the edit

>>149922650
>>149922716
Why didn’t DIO use Space Ripper Stingy Eyes on Kakyoin when he was trapped by 20m Emerald Splash? Or when he was on the ground when Jotaro was about to finish him off? He squirted blood from his leg to blind Jotaro; now imagine if he did that, but from his eyes, with enough force to blow a hole in Jotaro’s head.

>>149921851
The only thing interesting and exceptional about this speed feat is that unlike most characters who move at super speed Nolan doesn't produce any kind of special effect that prevents the collateral damage of superspeed.

>>149922645
Star Wars Rebels Magazine #1
Kanan and Ezra throw asteroids at this villain's ship using the Force. It was released after Disney purchased Lucasfilm, so it is Disney canon.
This ship is 52.3 meters long according to the Star Wars wiki.
Height:
>300 / 188 = 1.59
>52.3 x 1.59 = 83.15 meters
>83.15 / 2 = 41.57 meters.
Length:
>197 / 188 = 1.04
>52.3 x 1.04 = 54.39 meters
>54.39 / 2 = 27.19 meters.
(4 × π × 27.19 × 41.57 × 27.19)/3 = 128732.15 cubic meters (128732150000 cubic centimeters.)
Most asteroids have a density of 5.32 grams per cubic centimeter.
128732150000 x 5.32 = 684855038 kilograms.
The ships in the comic are shown to be traveling fast enough to avoid asteroids. Asteroids move at 25 km/s on average, which would be 25000 m/s. The asteroids the two threw would have to move just as fast to hit the ship.
684855038 kg at 25000 m/s = 2.14017199375E+17 Joules
51.15 Megatons (City level)

>>149922804
Oopsieroo doopsieroo! meant for this >>149922770 sorry haha

>>149922790
that rock? a SMT rock

>>149922800
A lot of powerscaling stuff also comes from authors having a very, very rough grasp on physics, resulting in stuff like "this character is MFTL because he dodges lasers"

>>149922781
>Asura's whole thing is that he jobbed in the beginning
He was killed by Deus who was way more powerful than him at the start. His first showcase of power was him beating Vlitra back to sleep.
>he died to yasha
He literally just came out from fighting Wyzen and losing all his arms. Yasha also was more powerful than Asura at that point too while Asura was exhausted.

>>149922683
I'd say half of it is nostalgia, but Dragon Ball is actually pretty good up to cell saga. Vegeta's character arc is really good. Seeing Gohan growing up is cool, and the whole "hero gets married and has children but the series goes on" doesn't happen that often. Future Trunks was awesome. There's lots of cool memorable moments

>>149922800
>However, Dragon Ball is definitely not a good example of it lmao.
Yes it is, number goes up each chapter, every villain is stronger than the last, it's very simple and easy to understand.

>>149922683
Solo Leveling is just a power fantasy for indians and gooks

>>149922842
I'd say other way around. Most characters aren't 'meant' to be FTL and having them dodge generic lasers is not an indicator of that, it's just Internet retards who say so.

Better example would be anything that crosses interstellar space or can react while crossing that fast and then the characters still visibly fight with like normal human speed punches like Invincible.

>>149922837
>ONLY city level
Pfft

>>149922841
This nigga was my hero in smt4.

>I'm CONSISTENT
>I NEVER job
>I DON'T rely on others for chain scaling
>I SHOW my feats and PROVE my statements
>And my wife LOVES me

>>149922770
Kratos...

>>149922901
I mean it was probably pretty cold, it's understandable.

>>149922842
That's partially why I don't like statements and calc scaling. A lot of authors follow this sort of logic with speed, for instance:
>normal human speed = normal
>bullet timing, seeing things in slow motion = trained human
>speed of sound = fast
>light speed = really fast
Similar logic follows with their powers showings. No author actually knows that their character parting the clouds in the skies actually makes them a continent buster and it's fucking hilarious when an author is asked about how powerful they think their characters are and the fan headcanon gets revealed as being completely retarded because of it.

Why doesn't anyone talk about Kratos' feats in Ascension

>>149922901
that was superman's ice btw

>>149922828
I think he legit couldn't use most of his vampire powers due to not having fully bonded with Jonathan's body

>>149922893
Oh, pre-Disney's erasure of the EU, Star Wars was a whole different beast.

Powergirl vs Anissa
Who fuarking wins?

>>149922928
No one has played ascension

>>149922868
nta but the big problem with Dragon Ball is the lack of tangible progression. characters get stronger but never cross the planetary threshold on screen. there is no difference between Buu and first form Frieza in terms of feats, and if anything Frieza would come off more impressive with how casually he destroyed planets
if a story with power creeps had "good" writing to its power scaling you wouldn't need to come up with filler, mental gymnastics, calcs, assumptions and whatnot once you start going up through celestial bodies and universes

>>149922928
Because brownoids only played the walking simulator era

>>149922901
>Broly catchs up to godly levels of powers in a few hours upon meeting and fighting Gokek and Bejita
so fucking retarded lmao.

>>149922868
if you started at the Androids saga you'd think the characters were city block level tops instead of large planet level

>powerscalers can accept a character moving faster than light, despite modern physics saying this is literally impossible
>powerscalers cannot even FATHOM the idea that light in one universe might move slower than it does IRL (even though we have proof of light moving slower in thicker mediums like water), and thus not every laser attack is moving at lightspeed

Reimu has arguments in favor of having information erasure resistances and information corruption resistances.
In the new Touhou 20 she fought a brainwashed goddess that can purify and likely erase things down to the informational level.
Plus she now has direct scaling to the moon princesses Watatsuki no Toyohime and Yorihime, characters that previously were stated to be too strong for the main games giving her even more scaling paths to almost everyone in her verse

Reimu jobs to mountains

>>149919774
Yup yup YUP, FEATrumites clear this.

>>149922967
Genetically hardmogged, turns out Goku and Vegeta are Saiyan incels

>>149923005
>needs three to destroy one
VS
>needs one to destroy three

>>149922973
Good thing CHADhou is canonically MFTL+++++++++ (lowballed)
>>149922997
She struggles with oxygen deprivation, Base Marisa is mountain level and Reimu is far above her

>>149922924
>No author actually knows that their character parting the clouds in the skies actually makes them a continent buster
in the case of the japanese, at least Oh! Great does.

>>149923005
Is Hail Mary planetary by scaling

>>149923005
yepperoo

>>149922973
>attack is stated as being lightspeed
>everyone and their mothers can perceive it and/or dodge it, ranging from low tiers to high tiers
>verse is immediately upgraded to relativistic or lightspeed despite the thousands of contradictions, no further analysis done

>>149923008
just IMAGINE if Broly did 10 pushups like LORD FREEZA when he wanted to achieve his gold form? Holy fuaaarkk...

>>149923020
>Well what now? It's not like we can fly in space that fast

>>149922968
If you started a random run of Superman you'd think the same thing because Superman doesn't routinely blow up planets

>>149923005
Surely Mark can repeat this feat completely alone with no laser pistol and precise timing...

BRING ME TOUHOU!!!

>>149923005
14 times bigger than Earth btw

>Characters dodging lasers instantly makes them relativistic at minimum
>Characters travelling to other planets instantly makes them MFTL+++++ because writers forget how vast space is
>Characters breaking out of a pocket dimension instantly makes them Universal+ at minimum
What other ridiculous "feats" do we have?

>Slow Lightlets are having a melty
Man, just dodge the laser, or even better stop supporting fodder verses

>reddit finally nooticed listroon
does that mean he's going to be spending more time here? yuck

Reminder dragon ball is not light speed, the one actual laser in the series is too fast for and almost kills Goku

>>149923052
Yeah, you'd probably either get one run where Superman jobs to kryptonite farts and he gets beaten to death by some random guy or another run where he moves the entire solar system with pure strength because comic book consistency at its finest

>>149923071
Listroon seems the sort of man that'll just make a new account.

>>149922590
Uncle Grandpa doesn’t have an official page on VSBW, at least not anymore. That image of his rating was actually taken from someone’s blog post on the site.

>>149923058
For what?
Hal?
What do you want to do with those Girls!?

>>149923063
anything related to black holes
>BHs already twist the universe. authors use small BHs as if they were country level at best

>>149923063
Black holes. Authors underestimate the amount of energy needed to make one of those. It's like Large Star level to make one as big as a human hand.

>>149923108
This, I still seethe.

>>149923063
>>Characters travelling to other planets instantly makes them MFTL+++++ because writers forget how vast space is
Ah yeah those planets were 20 kilometers away, retard bro, by that logic you can hand wave anything.

This may come across as controversial to some but I believe you should be able to destroy a planet if you want to be considered planet level.

>>149923108
>black hole is just a glorified vacuum cleaner

teleporting isn't ftl

>>149923096
>Uncle Grandpa's suicide erased him from collective memory
R>F gun

>>149923071
holy fucking kek
https://www.reddit.com/r/deathbattle/comments/1msytb7/comment/n97z11f/?context=3&share_id=5fDjnRnms3Y0ScDS9tO44&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1

>>149923138
Devastating. Laser beamed through his max power kamehameha and blasted through his avatar without a single scratch on him.

>>149923056
Not a chance. THRAGG, on the other hand...

>>149923079
Dyspo was the first light speeder. Android 18's blast got sucked into the event horizon of a black hole meaning it was slower than light. 18, 17 and Goku were trapped in a black hole and it took a Kamehameha from Blue to escape.

>>149923137
Uncle Grandpa resisted being erased by Warner (they removed all of his episodes, but he lived because he is in an episode of Steven Universe.)

>>149923063
CP = AP

The idea that if a god creates a universe, that ALSO means he can destroy a universe, even if he has not once demonstrated any attack that can do that, or even any attack at all. If a god is SPECIFICALLY known as the “god of creation”, or the “god of life”, it’s safe to assume they don’t have powers outside of that unless shown otherwise.

>>149923128
That's a hot take. Another hot take:
You should have at least one showing of it where it's implied that you can, at full power or some percentage of power, alone, without external interference or special occasions, be able to destroy a planet. When that happens you're planet level

>>149923165
Gravity attack called a black hole to sound cooler. Notice how it wasn't spaghettifying the arena around it or anything.

Post characters who can create universes

>>149923138
KEK!

>>149923172
16/17/18...

>>149923188
Whis said it was a black hole. He called it a singularity and everything. They boasted that "even light can't escape it", which they wouldn't have said if everyone in the tournament was Godzillions of times FTL

Post characters who die instantly in space.

>>149923138
KEKAROO

>>149923138
he meant white people btw since he's a spic

>>149923165
No he's not light speed

>>149923108
>Universal Man could turn into a black hole the size of a human, giving him Solar System-level durability
>still got murdered by the FIRST Omnidroid
>every Omnidroid is an objective upgrade over the previous one
>meaning the last Omnidroid LOWBALLED could destroy a solar system
Bring me the Sentinels.

>>149923108
and that's the thing. the universe has limits and black holes are exactly what they are because they broke those limits. they live in their own pocket universe in a way. you just don't move a BH (its pocket universe) without well, the use of another BH (pocket universe)
the only thing stopping a BH from being universal threats is its range. it's never been a question of AP but a question of energy density

>>149923058
>>149922934
>>149922548
>>149922106
All of these chads no-diff Reimu and her verse

Is Electromagnetism the biggest jobber of the fundamental forces?
>Anyone worth their salt is FTL at minimum
>People don't even care about physical force anymore, now it's all conceptual/metaphysical nonsense
>Gravity, Weak, and Strong forces are either respected or avoided

>>149923247
>All of these chads
... And the two pedophiles Clark Kent and Hal Jordan

>>149923020
>Supreme scaling
WEAK.

>>149923260
B

>>149919870
Realistically a Spartan would lose to a Centurion but this is a Miller/Snyder buffed Leonidas so it's an actually closer fight.

>>149923240
That doesn't count

>>149923276
>CHAINSCALING! I NEED YOU CHAINSCALING!

>>149923138
I'm legit tempted to Superman hopepost just to spite this weird dude

>>149923275
>James Gunn makes Superman universal in the first movie

Your move, Kevin Feige.

>>149923303
Supreme would solo all of DBZ. Omni-Man fought him to a standstill. BOOM.

>>149923195
Just because we've never seen him create a universe...
>>149923306
No one hope posts here thobeit, where in reddit?

>>149923022
Okay, let's see her destroying a mountain. She's had master spark for about 20 years now.

>>149923108
>Another win for Touhou
Friendly reminder Suika's power consist on being able to control density.
She makes black homes by creating zone of extreme density until all the mass collapses into a black hole.

>>149923265
>Clark Kent pedo
Proof

If you’re space traveling with your own power and pass by many planets in less than a second, and reach the center or edge of the galaxy/universe in a few minutes, then you are certifiably MFTL+, I don’t know what to tell you.

>>149923240
What do you expect me to do with this?

>>149923314
>*Makes Robert Doomney Jr. Multiversal with Beyonder powers*
Nothing personel

This thread just got MINDFREAKED

>>149923345
Shove it up your a-

>>149923338
Else world story where he kisses 13 year old lana lane

>>149923334
>She makes black homes
How charitable and inclusive of her!

>>149923291
What makes you feel so strongly? Roman armor might have been better but it wasn't anywhere close to the invulnerable suit that european plate mail was.

>>149923327
>Featkek babble
The Mini Hakkero being able to destroy Mountains has been canon since years thanks to a description on one of the official Books.
If you want to ignore canon because of your delusions that's not my problem

>>149923211
Know what else light can't escape

>>149923334
>She makes black homes
was she in the BLM riots too?

>>149923344
>then you are certifiably MFTL
lol, no. if you had Light's POV then you would be omnipresent. you would need to move from point a to point b because all points converged.
you cannot be faster than omnipresence

>>149923334
Suika is a bitch, the black home she made for me fell on my dog, and now he is on extensive care.

>>149923367
>>149923334
>>149923385
FUCK, my mistake.
She also makes White and Yellow Homes. Suika firmly opposes segregation laws

ScienceKEKS kneel to children's level fantasy powerscalingCHADS

>>149922146
>EVERY Godzilla
FFS where did that bologna even come from?

>>149923338
Superman is a disgusting pedophile scumbag

>>149923334
>She makes black homes
ANTI-RACISTka...

>>149923385
Yes. Our heroes are antiracist and WILL punch that Nazi.

MY HERO DESTROYS BLACK HOMES AND SUIKA'S ENTIRE VERSE!

>>149923397
I am really sorry Superman, but honestly that's on you.
Look at her, would you really live in a house built by this gremlin?

Law & Farmer & Religion Chads > [Every other field of study since they're vassals to the trio]

>>149923416
Goku would never be attractive enough for a 13 year old to make out with him

>>149923374
The statement is canon but it remains unproven, unless you can post Marisa destroying a mountain with her mountain level weapon of course.

>>149923435
Hal Jordanbro...

HULK WILL SMASH SHARTZILLA ULTIMA LIKE BANNER SMASH MEI KAMINO'S PUSSY!!

>>149922310
>more retards shipping godzilla and mothra
cool falseflag hulkbro

>>149923456
with what? your clam?

Nothing but frauds and fraud verses in this place.

>>149923240
>Look how Goku countered the solar flare, he put on sunglasses!
>No wait, he MOVED DURING THE FLARE, meaning he's a MFTL GIGABEAST
>Look how Polnareff countered the Hanged Man, he narrowed its options and intercepted its path!
>No wait, he MOVED DURING THE BEAM, meaning he's a MFTL GIGABEAST!!!
When did this kind of feat interpretation take off?

>>149923474
Pathetic.

>>149923275
This Luther vs Cavil Superman would have been ludokino

>>149923334
>She makes black homes
those black homes? belong to ichibei

>>149923443
Goku prefers boys. Women coo about Superman but Goku makes boys rip off their shirts

>>149923473
IS THAT HULKS MANUSSY? YUM YUMMY YUM!

>>149923435
>"I WON'T LET YOU TAKE THOSE HOUSES AWAY FROM THE MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES!"

>>149923476
So in your mind Goku just put on sunglasses because he felt like it instead of countering the solar flare?

>>149923499
Broly...

>>149923435
Invincibro...

goku lost 0-3 unlike hulk

>>149923474
Why is it so hard for other verses to have proper feats and world building? Invincible is unironically the best verse

>>149923505
This is how women act around TouhouCHADs btw

>>149923506
>>149923466
STOP!

.....

>>149923502
I think was fixing to put on sunglasses because it was about to get real bright

>>149923527
Mark was the BETTER MAN by not ripping him in half, it was Eve's argument to wage... Kratos would be proud...

>>149923476
Poln and Goku feats are legit, they are massive outliers, but legit.

I'm tired of your jobbers. Only star level Chadracters from this point on.

>>149923476
That is indeed how speed works, yes. If you move a further distance than something (in this case light) in the same amount of time, then you are faster than that thing.

>>149923527
>filtered by Kirkman's musings on sexuality
You have a toddler's understanding.

>>149923527
>gets interrupted like the beta male he is
This is your hero, Invincikeks?

>>149923527
Who's Blue BVLL's Death Battle Matchup?

>>149923526
>Joke about homes for black people
>Some fag HAS to make it about porn
I'm tired...

>>149923527
Why is Kirkman so obsessed with cuckoldry?

>>149923435
Kratos...

>>149923527
The woman is allowed do whatever she wants.

>>149923527
He also made Eve cum like she never did with Mark
Truly the Paul of Invincible

>>149923544
Sure thing!

How do we scale Daicon Girl? And when will Darth Vader have a rematch against her?

>>149923550
BOUNDLESSLY BASED BEAST

i'm gonna go trim my bush, you all want anything?

>>149923544
My HERO is beyond Star level even in his human form

>>149923550
Adam is not Kirkman's self insert, he's meant to be an unlikeable backward-thinking ass. What, is it because they're both fat?

>>149923544
KINGtos

>>149923550
>Eve's dad tells Mark how important it is for a woman to be virgin and not a whore
>Kirkman makes him the bad guy for some reason
Why?

I tried... I tried being a better man, but when I saw my wife's vagina oozing out the bvll's cvm.. I lunged at him in a bloodthirsty kek rage. The bvll beat me up, and my wife was upset and told me I was going to sleep on the couch while she slept with the bvll in our bedroom... Kratos... what do I do...? How do I truly become a better man?

>>149923476
Like KINGtos PARRYING Helios' light

Is it possible for /dbg/ to go a single thread without cuck fantasies?

>>149923623
...and then Mark woke up after getting knocked out in a single punch

>>149923546
That's not what happened, unless your contention is that Goku was FTE to Tien during their entire fight

>>149923631
Mark Grayson...

>>149923624
Kirkman understands that what a woman does is none of your business, especially if she's your wife or daughter.

I'm NEVER CONSISTENT
I ALWAYS job
I RELY on others for chain scaling
I HIDE my actual feats and NEVER PROVE my statements
And my wife KEKS me

>>149923138
I wonder what listroon's childhood was like to turn him into this thing, was he raped by a guy in a Superman shirt or something?

>>149923617
>The sun didn't explode when Helios died
>It only got cloudy
FRAUDULENTos...

>>149923631
Simon the digger...

>>149923643
I don't know about you but I only have cuck realities.

>>149923596
He represents Kirkman's conscience in an increasingly degenerate world. Seriously. It's not hard to figure out once you familiarize yourself with his college thesis about fatalism, causality and sexuality.

>>149923656
The entirety of Invincible...

New thread.
>>149923689

>>149923683
Kek

>>149923474
>Yes, including you. Not me tho, I’m Mindwalking in a higher dimension right now.

>>149923240
I watched the anime scene and Goku grabbed the sunglasses while the solar flare was in effect. It wasn't a single flash of light but a constant explosion of it like a flashbang that just won't end. That's a fucking horrid eye rape technique and I'm disappointed more characters don't use it

>>149923617
>star level
>did picrel amount of damage after the “sun” fell from the sky to Earth
Kratosxisters…