Thread 149932266

Why aren't you making your own animations?

>>149932266 (OP)
damn that autistic, I would say that worse than sonichu

I do. I made that bobs burgers AI video too.

>>149932315
>that's

>>149932386
u made shit

>>149932386
>bobs burgers AI video
Okay you can't just say that without sharing

Where would you put them these days?
Newgrounds? Youtube, but linked on Xitter?

>>149932266 (OP)
Which programs do I use? Besides paint programs.

>>149932266 (OP)
I suck at it. Now give me boob milk coffee.

>>149932439
https://files.catbox.moe/ydpqxx.webm
>>149932447
Tiktok

>>149932266 (OP)
I know how but I don't know what animation software to use. I don't want to use sony Vegas because I'm poor, and don't like sony.

>>149932266 (OP)
AI has killed my motivation.
whats the point of drawing a generic big booby fox girl if a computer can now do it a thousand times in a second?

>>149932266 (OP)
>3 years to learn how to draw
>3 months to animate just for one 5 seconds as a solo animator
Fuck that shit

>>149932948
That's the problem. You are a coomer. You have no other interests other than that.
It's probably why you are being held back intellectually and creatively

Also AI slop is too generic and can't create new art styles because it just copies and makes derivatives of what already exists. It is also wildly inconsistent to use for a full animated movie without heavy editing
If you want to innovate AI is not the way

>>149932266 (OP)
I actually started learning how to animate but I realize I need a better PC if I don't want the playback + rendering to chug on high-resolution canvases

>>149932266 (OP)
I do. I just don't make goon, so you wouldn't be interested.

>>149933035
/thread
Honestly /trash/ and /co/ should just merge already

>>149932266 (OP)
>Why aren't you
But I am faggot

>>149932948
If you don't animate fox tiddies, then who's work is the ai going to plagiarize?

>>149932266 (OP)
I feel like thread's going to get nuked cause of the OP image but in case anyone sees this, how do people narrow down frame timings? Like the standard of animation is 24FPS, but how do people determine if they want an action to be animated on 1's, 2's, 3's, etc.? I'm especially curious as to how they got this stuff down in the pure hand-drawn days decades ago, too.

>>149932948
>whats the point of
It's fun

>>149933182
How do you schedule working on it so you don't end up hating the end result from overexposure?

>>149932923
Jesus Christ
>Boobs Burgers

>>149933153
Just depends on what's happening, how it looks, and how fast it's moving. Just about every animator first practices this with a bouncing ball. Try it out.

>>149933218
The solution is to have almost no free time to do it so you treasure every second you do get.

>>149933296
DAMN MAN!
I wish I had thought of that title.

>>149933153
Budget, mostly

>>149932979
>You are a coomer. You have no other interests other than that.
True but you can’t blame me when the sex appeal route is the only way to make a living nowadays

>>149932963
I animate as a hobby and it's honestly more like 3 days for one second of animation assuming you just go at it and obsess.

>>149932266 (OP)
I gave up trying to be an artist after being told by a professional that my work was unappealing and that no one would hire me, even as a mediocre Sunday Funnies Cartoonist. I haven't drawn a thing in over a decade, and only stew in my own bitterness as a failed, jaded middle-aged man watching younger, far more talented artists achieve their dreams and live more fulfilled lives. Not all of us are meant to for greatness. Societies still need construction workers, too

>>149932266 (OP)
I’m not talented enough or smart enough.

>>149933930
That comic burns my biscuits.
If you want people to get excited you doodled a character on a blank white background they need a surrounding context that people care about. Make a whole fucking cartoon series. One people like and invest in. Give it likeable characters the audience wants to see more of. Then you've earned the right to get adoration for simple drawings.

>>149932266 (OP)
I am swamped to my neck in commissions maybe next year...

>>149932963

I always found the drawing part difficult, the actual animation is repetitive and long but easy

I mostly resort to drawing marshmallow people then animating them.

>>149933153

Duplicate frame. I mess around with 2d like wick editor

>>149934150

Post your work.

>>149932386
That fills me with unease.

>>149932266 (OP)
Takes too much time

>>149932266 (OP)
Mr. Enter tried doing that. I was kind of a shitshow.

>>149932932
I'm told blender is good for animating (yes, 2d)

>>149932266 (OP)
sex with anthro women

>>149932266 (OP)
It's hard and takes a long time and I'm already super self-conscious about my drawing ability.

>>149932266 (OP)
>iced latte meme
that was a fun one

>>149933153
You have to plan out the action and determine what parts benefit from persistence of vision. Also deal with impact and easing. Very nice animations can be done at 6-8fps if you know how to plan your poses.

>>149932923
I hate how some of this dialogue actually sounds pretty accurate to the characters.

>>149932923
>6 minutes of this
Dear god
The scary part is that it's decently-made.

>>149934150
When I was 12, I was obsessed with Dragon Ball Z. It was airing on Toonami at the time, and it had gotten me into art. Though I'd draw other things, I'd always come back to drawing my Saiyan OC and different aliens like the Ginyu Squad. One night after school I decided to try something big and make a giant render of my Saiyan and an alien out of construction paper. The head on one sheet, then the body, then the legs.

My mom was there, watching TV on the couch as I'm working. She asks me randomly what I want to be when I grow up. Now that I'm older, I realize it wasn't an innocuous question, but I answer, "I want to be an artist."

She scoffed and laughed just a little too hard. "You better actually learn how to draw then, because these are shit."

Not sure if she was drunk, can't really remember the context, but that statement landed so hard that I quit drawing. Picked it up again about 10 years ago just to draw in /co/ threads and was praised by people there 'if only I practiced'. I was going through some of her documents a few years back, and saw that she had saved the drawing along with a few others. She caught me looking at them and went, "I always wondered why you stopped drawing... You were so good at it!"

Not sure why I chose to share this. Anyways, I work in IT now.

>>149932266 (OP)
I prefer to take the high view rather than spend my time inbetweening a character.

>>149932266 (OP)
I can't draw that well to begin with and I can't be bothered to learn how the software works.

I'm sure opentoonz has great features that would have saved me hours of work when I last tried making a silly porn animation but every tutorial looks like this and it's really making me want to ignore them.

>>149932266 (OP)
Anyone that unironically uses Heterochromia in a character design deserves to be shot.

what mac laptop should I get under $200 to animate on?

i bought moho as an impulse purchase because it was on the humble bundle with a discounted price. I should try to use it now that I have it.

>>149932266 (OP)
i dont have pivot on my pc

>>149938222
Brutal. I've had those moments. It's crazy how much a single selfish moment from a parent can fuck you up for life.

Since we're dropping setups here, mines is just toonsquid on iPad. Don't even bother with procreate dreams, that shit doesn't even have a lasso tool and it costs twice as much (20 vs 10 dollars)

>>149940316
What iPad are you using?

>>149940347
iPad air. Had the 10th Gen before that point but needed more storage space.

>>149940436
Nice. Which Air model?

>storage space
Let me guess, you had the 64 GB version one.

>>149940474
Yeah lol. 6th gen. I went from 64 GB to 128. I traded it in and saved money with Apple. Had to get the apple pencil pro. Will likely go to the iPad pro in the future, for sure would recommend 13 in instead of 11 in. I cheaped out but won't next time. Toonsquid mogs procreate dreams so hard it's not even funny. Back when I got it, I was conflicted which one was better because procreate is a super great art app but don't let that fool you, their animation app is very lackluster. If any of you guys upgrade to the iPad air 6th gen, heads up that if it overheats a lot initially, just restart the whole thing and the problem disappears.

>>149932923
>Tiktok

>>149932266 (OP)
What's the best streaming site for actually streaming my WIPs?

>>149932266 (OP)
>Why aren't you making your own animations?
Because I hate coomers

>>149932923
wtf am I watching
did you make anymore of this

I've made my own art stills before but it usually just devolves into fetish porn due to my mind wandering

I've tried my hand but damn it's annoying.

>>149932266 (OP)
I hate this kind of humour bc it reminds me of how cringe I was when i tried sharing it with my normie friends irl and they just ignored me and hit me with that lead paint stare.

>>149944605
>cringe I was when i tried sharing it with my normie friends irl
Anon... what did you expect. This is basically softcore porn

>>149944634
I expected them to think it was as funny as I thought it was.
Silly me, trying to relate to neurotypicals. Ive learned to stay in my lane thank god.

>>149932266 (OP)
I did one got 1000 views the rest just like 12 and then the pen I was using started glitching out so I stopped

>>149944605
It doesn't involve suffering so normalfags don't find it funny.

>>149944696
>normalfags
You mean niggers

>>149932315
That big titty fox bitch was gonna give him the cookie just for stuttering like a tard about her milk
She must be desperate if a stuttering asspie turns her on

>>149937280
cute muscle furry

>>149932266 (OP)
i used flash and i don't have access to flash now and i have to spend time learning a whole other software but i don't have the time now to pick and learn which free software i'll like best

>>149932266 (OP)
Can see tits when she lifts her shirt.

>>149944781
It goes unspoken he has a strong, powerful bone structure, hence the obsession with milk

>>149932266 (OP)
I kept getting software to do it but I never followed through on learning about it or doing anything with it. Same with a bunch of /ic/ books, I didn't want to turn into a wayne about my adhd and autism leading to these attention problems, so I just kind of let it fester out of doodling once a month something. I think I still have too much wrong in other areas to really focus on it even, but I would like to make the crazy music videos I have in my head for a fanfiction I don't write down anywhere into something tangible for everyone else to enjoy.

>>149932909
>It will be difficult at first, but everything is difficult at first.
The Book of Five Rings concurs with this sentiment.

>>149932266 (OP)
If only i knew how to draw

>>149932266 (OP)
You have no idea how time-consuming it is, do you?

>>149938764
This, unless there's a story reason, like it's a replacement lab-grown eye or they've been irradiated by Irradium-43 or some shit like that during some plot/backstory with the character.
Even then that's kinda cringe, but a little cringe is okay.
I dump heterochromia in the same pile as 2000s sparkledogs, black sclera, and people having [current trend] OCs.

>>149932447
Depends on how lewd it is, I guess.
Youtube's not bad (and if you're big enough you get ad revenue), but stuff like Twitter and TikTok is fine too. Really you can't be too picky with this shit, a lot of places simply don't exist anymore.
Some people even just do Mega folders or a Google Drive folder, and I've seen some people post private videos to Vimeo to link elsewhere.

>>149932386
>>149932923
>AI faggotry
This is an animation thread, not an AI thread. Post real animation or fuck off.

>>149938004
It looks like shit.

>>149932948
>whats the point of drawing a generic big booby fox girl if a computer can now do it a thousand times in a second?
To make it actually good and sexy unlike the computer which can't do that at all.

>>149933930
>you can’t blame me when the sex appeal route is the only way to make a living nowadays
So pick up a pencil and draw.

>>149937280

looks greatm but given the angel and everythign, if you're trying to emphasize his size, maybe slow it down and/more tweens?

Tall people tend to duck slow when creeping thru a door, and once crossed, tend to upright a bit slow too.

>>149933153
Ask yourself two questions:
>Do I give enough fucks to animate this on 1s/2s/3s?
>Does this scene NEED to be done on 3s/2s/1s?
More frames = more work/time needed to finish it, and in some instances that might mean losing money or running out of damns to give.

I guess one way to test if you can give enough of a damn for a given approach is looking at how long the animation will probably run for.
100 seconds (just under 2 minutes, barely even a short) on 1s means 2400 frames. Ask yourself if that sounds like it'd be torture or if you think that'd be fun.
Ask yourself how much fast-paced shit you're going to have in that 100-second short. If it's some Family Guy skit, you're not gonna need 2400 frames of animation, but if you're doing some kind of fast-paced short ad for some amazing god-tier fight scene, then every frame might matter.

>>149933930
This comic is ass.
Seems like every time I see someone on social media post it unironically or have that same "feel", it's always some generic-ass cartoon/anime character with some generic story and no hook, or the creator is just some lump that doesn't really do much to "advertise" their presence. Both factions blame other people and not themselves.

>>149945390
>>149933153
I have no clue what you two mean by ones and twos and threes

>>149936235
I thought Blender was entirely 3d?

>>149932923
IT'S GENSLOP LUIGI, YOU DIDN'T MAKE IT

>>149932932
There's Clip Studio Paint; sometimes it's on discount. If you're fine doing 24 frame animations get the basic. It can support audio too.
>>149945460
Blender can do 2d, but in my experience it's somewhat limited to what CSP can do.

>>149934150
Construction workers have more stable income than 90% of production artists. They also can lift more than 30lbs

>>149932266 (OP)
I am animating, Anon. But I won't post here anymore. 4chan is zombie. The internet is nearing full enshitification.

I make animations and get about the average US minimum wage in ad revenue from posting them on Youtube. It's a lot more fun than my job so I'm pretty happy with this. But it takes forever.
I tried getting an animation industry job and got good feedback but
>I'm not in LA
>I don't know the right people
>I didn't try that hard or go for roles that looked like slavery
So making my own animations seems like the best-case scenario for me even if I'm unlikely to ever get rich and famous from it.

>>149945452
TL;DR:
>almost all TV content is 24 FPS, it's the standard
>animating on ones means animating every single frame, 24 frames per second
>animating on twos = every second frame, 12 FPS
>threes = every third frame, 8 FPS

Bonus semi-related info:
You can fill the "gaps" between your drawn frames however you want, whatever looks best for the lowest price.
>using your animation software's built-in tweening
>leaving it as-is and accepting any choppiness
>AI interpolation
>paying some interns or some cheap outsourced garbage company to do the tweening for you for pennies