Thread 149960728

Start with the little kid. They should make a Teen Titans GO version of the Justice League. I'm not talking about the artstyle or the general retardation of TTG. I'm talking about the GO way to treat non-meta humans. A show where Batman gets constantly mocked and bullied by Flash, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, etc. just like how Robin is a joke in TTG for being a human (who thinks he is the best) in a team of heroes. He can still solve detective mysteries but he wouldn't be smarter than Mister Terrific or The Atom. He can stop the Joker and save Gotham… while the League is doing more important things. This way kids would learn that Batman is only cool fighting other humans but he can't beat aliens and metahumans.

I like the pro-human message of Batwank, though.

Filthy alien immigrant hands made this post.

>>149960776
>>149960780
Humans can't be superheroes

>>149960828
Why did she do it?

>>149960728 (OP)
DC needs the Batwank sadly.
Without the Bat, it folds to Marvel like paper mache, its the only character thats making $$$

>>149961264
This anon is sadly correct, Batman is a load bearing beam at DC, they've written themselves into a corner with every other character because any time someone gets a modicum of popularity it is immediately squandered or sandbagged in favor of Batman, things have gotten so unbelievably bad that Batman has been cannibalizing other WB properties for the last decade in an attempt to simply make DC the infinite Batman machine instead of trying literally anything else.

>>149961418
How does that work in your head?

Like Batman beating all the other supes villains? Or the supes themselves?

>>149961067
She wanted to be Batman instead of Shadow.

>>149960776
>humans are amazing if they're nothing like a human and have clear superpowers but we just say they don't
Nice message retard

>>149961468
>t. human spirit non-believer

Gratis you know is me

Female detective characters

>>149961468
>>149960776
>>149960780
Supertard seethe threads. Remember who runs this shit Cuck Kent. It's DC comics for a reason.

>>149961264
>>149961418
this is only barely significantly accurate in comics and only in the most regressive and limited portion of the comic book market - e.g. floppy sales.
in a decade or less, this will be even more marginalized that most LCSs will be closed or near bankruptcy or worse, kept alive by Funko sales, Magic and other card game players and the like.

They certainly won't be surviving on what's left of the direct market, so this perception that Marvel has some death grip by idiots like y'all is meaningless and pointless.

>>149961438
>>149961418
in fairness to batman fans, for superman it's almost as bad (doomsday clock), for harley it makes even less sense (heroes in crisis), and for wonder woman it's not even based on sales. i also think the issue is more writing than intentional wank, batman authors constantly do the "batman vs mind controlled league" to basically crib Hush and Tower of Babel simultaneously, then because they're giant crossovers with the strongest characters they can't even write a creative upset.

>>149961590
DC deserves to die

>>149961549
Batman is there only IP that is blockbuster in vidya or movies. TDK carried them in the 2000s and The Batman outgrossed Supermid 2025 despite coming out during the last year of covid stuff. Batman: Arkham games and Batman Lego games are really the only significant DC games to speak of. Batman is the center of the Detective Comics Universe.

>>149961652
Well, their biggest cartoon ever isn't about Batman. They could make video games about Teen Titans.

>>149961685
Teen Titans Go? Literally lead by a BatChad character. Batman has many great interpretation in animated shows while Supermid has that shitty MaWS show and Wonder kek gets nothing!

>>149960728 (OP)
>How to stop the Batwank
>mucho texto

Easy way:
time travel back then and stop christopher nolan from releasing his films, that is the reason batwank got out of the hand.

>>149961264
I concur that it's the Batwank stuff that corners them to only able to sell Batman Stuff. It's led to a circle of hell where Batman is the only one doing the cool stuff, where everyone is jobbing > People only care about Batman and not those losers > Only Batman stuff sells > DC cranked up the Batwank > Only Batman doing the cool stuff

With the overwhelming Batman stuff, sooner or later he would get stalling and become boring. Hell, it's the usual arguments on how Batman story is done to death or how he is not learning about trusting his family for example

>>149961750
>Literally lead by a BatChad character
LMAO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdoZbwfGc78

>>149960728 (OP)
>This way kids would learn that Batman is only cool fighting other humans but he can't beat aliens and metahumans.
Holy fuck you utter fat neckbearded retards.
Batman isnt real. Kids dont need to learn shit about "the realities of capeshit"

>>149961908
t. Batman writer

>>149960728 (OP)
If you want to stop batwank then you need to just make other characters cool. That's literally all it takes. Humiliating him sucks & making him a worse detective or fighter is what they already do in live action.

>>149962713
>Humiliating him suck
Why? Because he is Batman? Other characters get humillated all the time

>>149962926
>catwoman one shotting 3 guys faster than light
>batman isn't ever allowed to lose
I fucking hate everything DC does. Batman needs to be outright retired so this shit will stop.

Batman is the most powerful character there is. No ifs ands or buts. Batman always wins. Batwank is good. Thank you for your attention on this matter!

>>149963020
Batwank hurts other DC characters and is really fucking cringe

>>149962713
>Humiliating him sucks & making him a worse detective or fighter is what they already do in live action.
Because it more accurately depicts his human limitations without the benefit of a still 2D format making readers fill in the blanks of how the things he does are even possible for someone who is allegedly human. Despite being a popular character, audiences will still scratch their heads if they see him doing some of the wankier shit he does in comics.

>>149961764
>With the overwhelming Batman stuff, sooner or later he would get stalling and become boring
When exactly is that happening because just yesterday they announced a Lego Batman game and everyone is happy about it

>>149962997
Never happening lol, and btw this was written by the guy that brough Hal back. Even his pet characters kneel before BatLORD

>>149962997
>needs to be outright retired
Nah. Just make him (and the Joker) a joke outside of Gotham

>>149961549
Ask people who is.more.popular Superman or Iron Man.

20+ years ago supercuck.migjt have a chance. Since MCU Iron Man is running circles around the kryptonian. Spider-Man even more.

Batman is DC only chance

>>149961752
Nah, Batwank was full swing when Justice League cartoon was airing in 2000.

Id say it started around Bruce Timm cartoon in 1993 or even Tom Burton Movies.

>>149962926
Humiliating any characters to nerf them or make a story happen is bad writing. The Flash stuff only works if it's a matter of powers or tech that counter his power set. This Tom King stuff is ass.

>>149962997
But THIS is funny.

>>149963088
No that's retarded. Batman is supposed to be a detective ninja but he sucks at doing both in the live action movies since Burton. It's out of pure laziness. Not storytelling.

>>149963900
It was a combo of 90s mega success and Morrison reintroducing the 1960s Adam west joke of batman always being hyper prepared.

>>149963993
>But THIS is funny
So, a Justice League GO with Batman as the butt of the jokes would be fine, right? It's funny

>>149964072
No. Fuck off. These aren't equivalent. It's a lighthearted joke on Hal not paying attention & Batman being a skilled ninja. The equilvalent would be Hal taking Batman's belt with comically big scissors. Back with Kyle on the JL he drew Batman in a crude drawing but changed it to a serious skillful one when before Batman could see. That's comedy. Not TTGO style "everyone's an asshole & hates Robin for no reason".

>>149964011
Its a problem even in comics, the failsafe story started out as a pretty engaging murder mystery about the penguin and then in one issue became about JLA level robots and psychic parasite contingencies for contingencies. As a fan of detective novels there are probably more Superman stories I'd recommend than batman ones these days.

>>149961752
>>149963900
It's because Shuster and Siegel sued DC to get the Superman character rights back while Kane had made some special arrangements with Warner Brothers. Batman is the only character with 0% chance of a legal issue popping up and has his own popularity.

>>149964116
Post Flashpoint Batman is the worst in regard of impossible gadgets pulled out his ass & plans within plans. I agree. There's a lot of problems with modern comics beyond just Batman.

>>149964011
I'm willing to hear you out on how exactly you think he sucks at it in live-action.

>>149964199
Fighting? He doesn't use any martial arts in any movies. The Dark Knight movies has him fighting like a drunk. Doesn't even use his fucking batarangs or grappling hook against Two Face. Instead he just tackles him like a retard after he thinks he killed Batman. Useless fucking armor in that regard. Reeves Batman is a little better because the camera actually focuses on the action but he too just fights like a brawler only using his grapple gauntlets to help fight. Burton Batman straight up can't even fight in a believable manner whatsoever because the costumes were so cumbersome.

As far as detective work goes, Reeves was the only one who tried but Bruce always needed Alfred, Gordon, Penguin, & that mexican cop to figure out Riddler's riddles. Only to not even realize what he was planning without looking at his fucking darkweb livestream. He's a terrible detective.

>>149964114
>Implying Batman doesn't deserves to be hated

>>149964289
Bad out of character writing like this is exactly the problem you yourself don't want. No Batman doesn't deserve any hatred for being popular.

>>149962713
>Humiliating him sucks
Batman humiliates other characters all the time, including ones he has absolutely no business doing that to. That is one of the primary forms of batwank.

>just make other characters cool
You can't do that when they get fed to Batman on the regular. It's only a few short months ago that he took out every one of the other Bat characters AT THE SAME TIME, in one move each. That was, what, 8 characters diminished just to wank him up? 8 other characters made to look pathetic and useless. You can't make any character look cool if they're too weak to take out a rich guy with some karate lessons with EIGHT TO FUCKING ONE odds on their side. That's ridiculous, they might as well be toddles if they can't do that much.
This sort of shit is why batwank is a problem, it prevents other characters from being cool. All just to build up a character that needs no buildup, and who by the way will be in public domain soon so all the hype will go down the drain.

>>149963993
>>149964114
No. Fuck off. It is a deliberate take down of Hal Jordan with the explicit purpose being to show batman's superiority and how awesome he is. No amount of "ninja" should permit batman to take a GL ring off their hand while in a face to face conversation.

>>149963850
But people liked the new Superman movie

Batman fags will defend this

Rape Batman

>>149960728 (OP)
What is Batwank?And which Batman cartoons have it and don't have it?

>>149965732
They doesn't mean that they don't like Iron Man more.

>>149965732
That doesn't mean that they don't like Iron Man more.

>>149967232
>which Batman cartoons have it
The DCAU

>>149960728 (OP)
Ttg did absolutely nothing to stop Robinwank tho.

>>149967232
Remember in Batman Brave and the Bold when they sang a song about how Batman had a bigger dick than all the other superheroes and the mobsters were weirdly into it?

>>149968703
I thought they were singing about how he drives them bats.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHY9USNC_Fk

>>149968756
different song
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEyNESyrpmE

>>149966435
Not a batman wanker but to be fair hulk lore was almost nonexistent at that time. And he wasn't the powerfull living walking gamma bomb he is nowadays.
In the end stan Lee is right, the character that wins is always they characters the writer wants to win.
Like how modern marvel writers always want to make ghost rider Johnny blaze the jobber of the marvel universe when logically he's one of the most powerful superheroes in marvel, heck they always make the penance stare, an actual overpowered skill, look like a joke because writers who don't know, nor write ghost rider, don't know how that power works.
Geez, I still remember how punisher and captain marvel dodged it for beyond incredibly stupid reasons.

>>149961869
>robin is a virgin loser who gets mocked by everyone and gets low diffed by a bear
LMAO@Batcuck

>>149962713
He really should be worse detective because there's no way he should be able to measure up to Clark's genetically engineered alien son-of-a-scientist intellect

Snyder was right, they should just have Batman raped in prison. That oughtta remind audiences he's human.

>>149960728 (OP)
Batwank is only harmful when it demeans central characters within his universe- like when he beat the entire Batfamily single handedly even though they had enchanted weapons and the drop on him- that’s ridiculous, but no one cares if Bruce has a psychotic 8D chess contingency plan to kill Diana, it’s cool

>>149970210
Stop self-inserting as Batman

>>149970452
I don't self insert as anything, Batman is the only worthwhile dc property

>>149962926
>>149962997
>>149970210
Shit like this is why I liked Batman's fight with Reverse-Flash. Thawne just beats him into meatloaf.

>>149971249
isn't that the sams storyline where Batman gets some major licks in and makes Thawne look like a pussy

>>149971294
Not really. He sucker-stabs Thawne in the foot with a Batarang to slow him down and manages a punch or two, but otherwise Thawne just totally fucks him up.

>>149971249
Man, that minute fight was kino, I was on my seat waiting for flash to appear.
Batman being underpowered against actual powerful beings is always refreshing.
>>149971294
Eobard mopped the floor with batman, batman literally just stabbed his foot because Eobard wasn't even taking the fight seriously.
Batman resisting punches is cool when you know he actually can be killed instead of being the god of plot just because.

>>149967232
Batman TAS doesn't have it. He takes his licks and has plenty of instances where it feels like he's in over his head before he has to cut and run or make a desperate gambit to get out of a tight situation, and they don't feel like asspulls. Despite this, he's still depicted as highly competent and capable, just that he can believably become overwhelmed by someone stronger or better prepared than him.

>>149971599
Batman TAS was fine but the crossover with Superman TAS was pure Batwank

>>149960776
>>149961545
true

>>149960728 (OP)
really wish DC would release Hikitea so I could read it properly

>>149961634
Yes, but not for this.

>>149960776
No I agree too, I don’t care if it’s not realistic, Batman is fighting for justice across dimensions along side what are basically gods and has earned the respect of deities, I feel this way about Captain America as well. Just normal humans fighting for what’s right no matter where the problem is. Also honestly Batman isn’t as grounded as people think he is

Let's be honest here, there is no way that Batman doesn't at least have super human durability in his kit with the way he tanks hits

>>149971317
you can't sucker punch a guy who started a fight with you

>>149960776
>I like the pro-human message of Batwank, though

That doesn't exist because Batman is wanked even harder against other humans.

>>149960828
>the weak should fear the strong
>>149961067
to test her abilities

>>149971952
There was a certain point where they made animated Batman less fallible and human about anything, I can't tell you when that happened specifically, but there is a noticeable shift after it did.

What if they raped the batman

>>149961590
>>149971987
making telepathy totally useless in dc because batman characters are simply too crazy is actually a solid example of batwank being a detriment to the whole universe

>>149973134
I don't know ow what amy is using but she looks cool as hell.

>>149960728 (OP)
Pic unrelated as he is clearly going ha ha yes

>>149961752
Batman was beating the shit out of the entire JL long before that.

>>149964751
Batman is the indomitable human spirit given form.
Him being a bat themed ninja detective is secondary and thats why given the chance a power ring flies to him.
When you realise that writers gradually made him avatar of unstoppable desire to win and defeat evil it all makes sense.
Its not batwank,Its Manwank that attached itself to batman cause he made most sense.

>>149973790
Nah, im pretty sure is batwank, because logically in a world woth superpowered beings batman is actually outclassed by a lot of heroes, like the flash for example, bruce only defeated superman on alternate stories, because he always fight clark at his weakest like in the dark knight returns.
The same as this guy >>149969727
explains with ghost rider jobbing to captain marvel and specially wolverine and punisher, is just extremely stupid.
At least professor zoom kicking batman ass proved that he isn't untouchable.

>>149973851
Its not always about being the strongest
Look at rats,glass cannon of an animal and yet its on every landmass other than the frozen ones
Thats batman,hyperadaptable with resources intellect and unlimited drive
He wont stop just because superman can rip his head off,he will find a way even if it costs him everything below pelvis

>>149960828
>>149973134
Wait, is that really Amy in the OP?

Batman is the only thing keeping DC from going under, they cant Spider-man him and turn him into a joke like that, Spideys only salvaged by Sony owning film rights
WB dont have the infinite money glitch like Disney

>>149961752
Nolan's Batman is probably one of the weakest incarnations, though.
So if anybody got batwank out of his movies, they clearly missed the point so it's shit writers' fault.