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Anonymous No.149976731 >>149976747 >>149976779 >>149976931 >>149977003 >>149977038 >>149977498 >>149978382 >>149979662 >>149980001 >>149980090 >>149980190 >>149980238 >>149980373 >>149980716 >>149982423 >>149983642 >>149986900 >>149987606 >>149987736 >>149988465
> Ends animation Renaissance that begun with Roger Rabbit
> Sends Western Animation into a long slow decline that's at rock bottom now

What can Western Animation do to fix the damage?
Anonymous No.149976747 >>149980716
>>149976731 (OP)
>Kid Goku
>Not Z Goku which most people in the west think of Goku

One job, Anon.
Anonymous No.149976779
>>149976731 (OP)
come on, you already have the battle thread and the toonami threads, do you really need more stealth anime threads on /co/?
Anonymous No.149976931
>>149976731 (OP)
People who actually care about the medium or has talent need to work together and produce something.

Whole western animation sphere is filled with nothing but nepotism and talentless hacks.
Anonymous No.149977003
>>149976731 (OP)
learn how to draw
Anonymous No.149977038 >>149977277 >>149977314 >>149977389 >>149979046 >>149980478 >>149982103 >>149982143 >>149984230 >>149987014 >>149987330 >>149987387 >>149987708 >>149987884 >>149988152
>>149976731 (OP)
I can at least understand the appeal of Dragon Ball and Pokemon, but I can't imagine anybody who isn't female (therefore retarded) or severely fruity kind of gay being able to watch Sailor Moon without feeling ashamed and embarrassed.
Anonymous No.149977277 >>149977447 >>149977882 >>149983382
>>149977038
Sailor Moon was PRIME fap material in the days before the internet was mainstream.
Anonymous No.149977314
>>149977038
Funny, because Sailor Moon is by far the best show of the 3.
Anonymous No.149977374 >>149977471
>People in the west start being impressed by Japanese storytelling with detailed visuals
>The west reacted by making 200 Flash-animated cartoons about farts and butts
Nobody to blame but ourselves, to be honest.
Anonymous No.149977389 >>149977447 >>149977882
>>149977038
men watches sailor moon because of the porn anon, and the waifu material that is the girls cast.
And later learning of sailor uranus being a nympho freak who lives for the anal weaknesses meme
Anonymous No.149977447 >>149977882
>>149977389
>>149977277
This is why coomers should be shot, honestly.
Anonymous No.149977471
>>149977374
I mean the 2000s genuinely tried to do stuff that worked within that framework and it was very well-received. Then the Global Financial Crisis happened and suits got greedy and closed their purse strings, while the animators that did get hired became a close-knit clique that only promoted their own low-effort lackeys in out of nepotism.
Anonymous No.149977498
>>149976731 (OP)
The animation renaissance ended when animators stopped using ink and paint went over to computers with Flash animation taking over because it was much cheaper
Anonymous No.149977882 >>149978235 >>149978269
>>149977447
As the only ACTUAL fan of the masterpiece that SM is in here, I agree with you. A real man likes what he likes and doesnโ€˜t need to do mental gymnastics to justify it. That reeks of microdick energy and insecurity. So those two retarded incel cucks have no business near BSSM
>>149977389
>>149977277
SM is one of the best series ever made. You pathetic faggots donโ€™t deserve to watch it, let alone the girls which is obvious, as youโ€™re clearly some permavirgin freaks who nobody wants. Get TOPPED and kys
Anonymous No.149978235 >>149978380
>>149977882
cool with the transgenderism xistah
Anonymous No.149978269 >>149978337 >>149980716
>>149977882
Everyone fapped to Sailor Moon in the 90s dude, sorry if that offends you. Most people also enjoyed the show but don't kid yourself.
Anonymous No.149978337 >>149978425
>>149978269
>missing entirely the point
Of course you are a fucking braindead idiot. Fuck off to your shonenshit, mouthbreathing retard and no, nobody has ever given a flying back about your useless dicklet, not back then, not now, not ITT
Anonymous No.149978380 >>149978425
>>149978235
More of a man than youโ€™ll ever be, bitch. I could snap your neck like a twig. Thatโ€™s why unlike you unsightly cowards I never had to hide it under โ€œI-Iโ€™m just looking at girls! I-Itโ€™s not that I like the showโ€ or some insecure faggy shit like losers like you did.
Anonymous No.149978382
>>149976731 (OP)
I understand Pokemon but the rest didn't really have such a big effect on western animation other than getting referenced in a lot of cartoons.
Anonymous No.149978414 >>149979473
Anything with a female lead is garbage by default.
Anonymous No.149978425 >>149978486
>>149978337
>>149978380
Someone give more estrogen to this sister before xhe loses his mind and 41% himself
Anonymous No.149978486
>>149978425
>trannies and oestrogen live rent free in โ€œhisโ€ mind
Exactly the kind of cowardly, low test permavirgin loser I was referencing. Kys
Anonymous No.149979046 >>149979055 >>149979497
>>149977038
>I can't imagine anybody who isn't female (therefore retarded) or severely fruity kind of gay being able to watch Sailor Moon without feeling ashamed and embarrassed.
Boys watched it for the girls, bro. Same reason they watched Totally Spies.
Anonymous No.149979055 >>149979473 >>149980482
>>149979046
Only faggy boys who (deservedly) got bullied in school watched that slop.
Anonymous No.149979473 >>149979502 >>149980482
>>149978414
>>149979055
Stop projecting troon
Anonymous No.149979497 >>149979504 >>149980482
>>149979046
STFU zoomcuck
Anonymous No.149979502 >>149979519 >>149980482
>>149979473
Stop talking to the mirror.
Anonymous No.149979504 >>149979648 >>149980482
>>149979497
Cope and seethe
Anonymous No.149979519
>>149979502
Fag
Anonymous No.149979541
Is somebody running the bot again?
This thing replying to everybody with one/two-word sentences and never saying anything else, so you just know it's a bot.
Anonymous No.149979648 >>149979674
>>149979504
>t.erminally online permavirgin zoomcuck
Anonymous No.149979662
>>149976731 (OP)
I know a guy from Florida who thinks anime is what you posted: Sailorballmon. And he thinks Japan used Sailorballmon in the 90s to kill western animation. Are you him?
Anonymous No.149979674 >>149979736
>>149979648
Cope millenialtroon
Anonymous No.149979736 >>149980085
>>149979674
Post where are you and letโ€˜s see who is the man here. You faggot zoomies live hiding behing a screen, you wonโ€™t last 10 seconds in a fist fight.
Anonymous No.149980001 >>149980057 >>149980306 >>149980486 >>149985624
>>149976731 (OP)
>shounen slop is arguably worse than most western animation & capeshit.
>sailor moon effectively ruined an entire generation of female animators & comic artists.
>nobody but autistic manchildren & coomlectors care about pokemon.
like miyazaki said, anime has and always will be a mistake.
Anonymous No.149980057
>>149980001
Stfu tranny
Anonymous No.149980085
>>149979736
Stop projecting
Anonymous No.149980090 >>149982304
>>149976731 (OP)
>showrunners do nothing to fight against outsourcing for animators
>get outsourced themselves
reap what you sow and all of that
Anonymous No.149980190
>>149976731 (OP)
Studio Massa and the guy who does I Can't Sleep need to collab. That would save the medium
Anonymous No.149980238 >>149980267 >>149980716
>>149976731 (OP)
Shit was going Cartoon Cartoon/Klasky Csupo art that point in time. It was all overly simplistic flash and poorly drawn crap by 1999.

You want someone to blame for the end of Saturday Mornings and Kids WB? Blame the FCC for making the requirements and educational material requirements so fucking ridiculous that they all just plain quit.
Anonymous No.149980267
>>149980238
>Shit was going Cartoon Cartoon/Klasky Csupo art that point in time.
It was kino
Anonymous No.149980306
>>149980001
>>shounen slop is arguably worse than most western animation & capeshit.
The original db is better than most western cartoons. And a shonen as a whole has produced kino like Ashita no Joe or Rokudenashi Blues which are way above 99% of capeshit.
Anonymous No.149980373 >>149980767 >>149982204
>>149976731 (OP)
> What can Western Animation do to fix the damage?

Go back to hand painting backgrounds. It's really difficult to care about backgrounds when all we get these days are these silly geometric shapes for backgrounds. Especially for adventure cartoons. I just don't feel that sense of adventure when the backgrounds of Duck Tales look the same as the backgrounds of Family Guy and Star Vs the Forces of Evil.

I remember Pokemon, DBZ, and Sailor Moon had some good hand painted backgrounds. They really can't be THAT expensive to hand paint backgrounds.
Anonymous No.149980478 >>149980736
>>149977038
Sometime you got to see naked girls.
Anonymous No.149980482
>>149979055
>>149979473
>>149979497
>>149979502
>>149979504
Pure botnet chain in action
Anonymous No.149980486
>>149980001
That "mistake" has produced most of the best animated series ever made, zoomie.
Anonymous No.149980716 >>149987642
>>149976731 (OP)
Inspector Gadget, while Gummi Bears set it into over drive, not Roger Rabbit as much as I love that film.
>>149976747
The west know about kid Goku and his catch phrase "Why would I want to touch a girl's butt?".
>>149978269
Less then 1% of Sailor Moon's market, Rule34 didn't take off until Cardcaptor Sakura.
>>149980238
Blame TMS wanting too much control over their cartoons.
Anonymous No.149980736 >>149987506
>>149980478
Thats Ranma 1/2, and that was aimed at a much older market.
Anonymous No.149980767 >>149980777 >>149980847 >>149981024
>>149980373
Modern anime doesn't use hand painted backgrounds either anon.
Hell some of them are AI generated
Anonymous No.149980777 >>149980917
>>149980767
J.C Staff still hand paints them.
Anonymous No.149980847 >>149981024
>>149980767
>Modern anime doesn't use hand painted backgrounds either anon.
Maybe not the average ones but big budget ones still have hand painted backgrounds.
Anonymous No.149980917 >>149981477
>>149980777
Then what's up with the bright as fuck colors?
Anonymous No.149981024 >>149981477
>>149980767
>>149980847
I forgot to give you an example but Flip Flappers has hand painted backgrounds,
Anonymous No.149981477
>>149980917
Normies want bright and chearfull colors, it's brown and gray they hate.
>>149981024
Flip Flappers also had a larger budget then most TV anime as well, they could afford it.
Anonymous No.149982103 >>149982121 >>149982195
>>149977038
Sailor moon had hot chicks and pretty much is cape shit. It debuted in the US when the Marvel/Fox kids block was at its height of popularity and road high off of that also Voltron riding off the insane popularity of Transformers
Anonymous No.149982121 >>149982131
>>149982103
There's no point in capeshit without cool fight scenes.
Sailor Moon certainly didn't have them, just gay energy beam shit.
>but if that's your measure, that means most of capeshit is bad
Yes.
Anonymous No.149982131
>>149982121
Cope and seethe
Anonymous No.149982143 >>149982182
>>149977038
Girls watch cartoons too anon, and anime gave girls action shows with girls as the main character.
Representation matters and anime proved that.
Anonymous No.149982182 >>149982243 >>149984062
>>149982143
Problem was that it was 20 times worse then what it was in the US and when ever it was good it was aimed at a male market (see Laura Haruna for proof of this).

Everyone just wanted funny animal/loli comedies, and anime proved that.
Anonymous No.149982195 >>149982279 >>149982295 >>149987551
>>149982103
But Sailor Moon didn't really take off until it was on Toonami. Sailor Moon is such a great show its a shame American's can't into the Sentai formula because every attempt to make a US magical girl has sucked ass.
Anonymous No.149982204
>>149980373
Modern cartoon backgrounds are probably more complicated and fully rendered than they were in the 80s/90s. There real problem with modern cartoons is layout, as layout department have ceased to exist and the responsibilities are now falling on the board artists.
Anonymous No.149982243 >>149982279 >>149982295
>>149982182
>Family Computer
Why does a 40 year old gaming device make it so hard to talk about the state of animation industry on this board?
Anonymous No.149982279
>>149982195
Doremi was better.
>>149982243
You're derailing thew thread.
Anonymous No.149982295 >>149982587
>>149982195
Ojamajo Doremi was better.
>>149982243
You're derailing the thread.
Anonymous No.149982304 >>149987466
>>149980090
They did fight, they just lost badly.
Look up the 1982 animators' strike
Anonymous No.149982423 >>149982606 >>149987600
>>149976731 (OP)
>WELL, YOU HAVE SACRIFICED STORY CONTENT FOR MINDLESS VIOLENCE AND LACK OF STRUCTURE.
unironically, what story content and structure did TV cartoons have pre-anime? Seems like it was mostly mindless comedies and toy commercials already
Anonymous No.149982587 >>149982642 >>149983284
>>149982295
>Ojamajo Doremi was better.
Doremi doesn't even punch evil monsters.
Anonymous No.149982606 >>149984311
>>149982423
Anything that came out of Tex Avery, Bob Clampett, Frank Tashlin, Art Davis (Warner Bros work only), Bill Hanna and Joe Barbera, Bob McKimson, Chuck Jones and Friz Freleng.

Also Max and Dave Fleischer, Seymour Kneitel, Willard Bowsky, Shamus Culhane, Dick Lundy, Jack Hanna, Jack Kinney (Disney work only), Walter Lantz, Ben Hardaway and Jack King.
Anonymous No.149982642 >>149983896
>>149982587
She doesn't need to.

But on another show's topic; Laura Haruna just drops anvils on them, and the monsters just become accordions after getting an anvil dropped on them.
Anonymous No.149983284
>>149982587
They use magic. You want monster punching go watch Tokyo Mew Mew.
Anonymous No.149983382 >>149984004 >>149988375
>>149977277
This, along with the fact that Sailor Moon had some pretty decent action and fighting. Then again, it doesn't help that I'm probably comparing to the slop that gets put out today.
Anonymous No.149983642
>>149976731 (OP)
All 3 of those aired on Cartoon Network
Anonymous No.149983896 >>149984148
>>149982642
>FAMICUNT

Oh FUCK OFF ALREADY, FUCK OFF AND DIE!

We cannot EVER have a genuine discussion of this topica because this fucking Mod identity always ruining and spergin the same cringe over and over again.

And her name is Haruna Hiroko bitch, and Hamtaro SUCKED.
Anonymous No.149984004
>>149983382
>agreeing with an incel cuck shitposter
you are a fucking idiot... neck yourself
Anonymous No.149984052 >>149984109
east vs west troll threads are cancer and against >>>/global/rules/3 and >>>/co/rules/1
OP is a faggot.
Fulfill your civic duty to help purge this board of anarchistic, sociopathic, intellectually regressive youtube/reddit/twitter immigrant subhumans like him who are under the delusion that all of 4chan (instead of just the designated shitposting playpens like /b/, /trash/, /bant/, etc.) is a toilet by reporting this thread en masse.
Here's a link so you don't have to scroll up to the top of the page.
https://sys.4chan.org/co/imgboard.php?mode=report&no=149976731
Anonymous No.149984062 >>149984148
>>149982182
>Everyone just wanted funny animal/loli comedies, and anime proved that.
No, that's just you retard
Anonymous No.149984109 >>149984349
>>149984052
Based. Hope those idiots get rangebanned... and the boards you mentioned should be scrapped and the subhumans who lurk there rounded and shot. They always end up leaking here and into other boards.
Anonymous No.149984148 >>149986859
>>149983896
No, her name is Laura, call her Hiroko and she WILL shove dynamite down your pants.

Hamtaro was ok, not TMS' best due to SMDE's restrictions and the games were much better but it's light years better then their modern output where it's nothing but shoddy knock offs of other studios.

Japanese studios will KILL to do a show like Hamtaro in this day of age, because the girls are not objectified, the girls deep as fuck and three dimensional, just like real woman, the girls treated just like a real woman, Laura and Kana are aimed guys and theres no pointless fighting, just pure cartoon goodness that will make Tex Avery proud up in heaven.

If Laura and Kana are in a pickle they just drop an anvil/safe/piano on the villain and mover on with their day.

It may not be as good as Tiny Toon Adventures and Animaniacs due to being chief director by a less skilled director (Osamu Nabeshima who is legit in his craft but compared to Toshihiko Masuda it's like comparing HFCS Dr Pepper (Nabeshima) to Real Sugar Dr Pepper (Masuda)), the lack of Telecom (baring digital ink and paint for the 4th movie) and SMDE demanding to have the show be about hamsters instead of Laura which is what everyone else wanted but compared to the anime being made today Hamtaro is light years better then the slop being made now.

TL;DR; Learn the subject before you speak, Laura Haruna is Japan's answer to Bugs Bunny for a reason.
>>149984062
No, every normie on earth just wanted wacky comedies, not doing that will make Tex Avery turn in his grave and you DO NOT want to do that.
Anonymous No.149984230 >>149987171
>>149977038
It's an action anime, what's there to not understand? Do you think it's a show about shopping, and doing nails, and makeup?
Anonymous No.149984311 >>149984564
>>149982606
So art made in the 70s and earlier? Seems weird to see animators in the 90s call for the same respect when they've done nothing to prove their worth
Anonymous No.149984349 >>149984417
>>149984109
Idiot, theyโ€™ll just migrate here permanently
Anonymous No.149984417 >>149986099
>>149984349
And they will get rangebanned for good. All those fucking dogshit boards are full of schizos and are a breeding ground for retards that have consistently ruined things elsewhere.
Anonymous No.149984564
>>149984311
Those 80s and 90s animators did prove their worth, Toshihiko Masuda, Nobuo Tomizawa, Yoshinobu Michihata, Kenji Hachizaki, Takashi Kawaguchi, Hiroyuki Aoyama, Kazuhide Tomonaga, Keiko Oyamada, Atsuko Tanaka, Hisao Yokobori, Teiichi Takiguchi, Hiroaki Noguchi and Shojiro Nishimi will all like to have a word with you.
Anonymous No.149985624
>>149980001
Miyazaki never said that and he liked Dr. Slump. He probably hates your favorite movies more.
Anonymous No.149986099
>>149984417
Mods here already donโ€™t care
Anonymous No.149986859 >>149986882
>>149984148
Truer words were never spoken.
Anonymous No.149986882
>>149986859
Stfu
Anonymous No.149986900 >>149986938 >>149988169
>>149976731 (OP)
Anime has never had a single true box office success and none that made 1 billion or more at the box office
Even China had a film that made 5x anime's highest grossing film
It is an objective failure of a medium outside terminally online nerds
Anonymous No.149986938 >>149986968
>>149986900
Demon Slayer will like to have a word with you.
Anonymous No.149986968 >>149986979 >>149987689
>>149986938
>Box office $203.69 million
???
Anonymous No.149986979
>>149986968
Made more than Fixed.
Anonymous No.149987014
>>149977038
Sailor Moon is funny and I was in love with her in grade school.
Anonymous No.149987171 >>149987183
>>149984230
>action
What fucking action? And yes, it's still fucking gay.
Anonymous No.149987183
>>149987171
Stop projecting
Anonymous No.149987301 >>149987689
Anime is shit
Anonymous No.149987330 >>149987578
>>149977038
Sailor moon mostly catered to the lgbt audience
Anonymous No.149987387
>>149977038
it had good music
https://youtu.be/-km-mHrqIMU
Anonymous No.149987466
>>149982304
>work getting outsourced because you're too difficult to work with
>"I know! let's ask for more money and be more antagonistic!"
didn't think that one through, did they
Anonymous No.149987506 >>149987689
>>149980736
Ranma ran in Weekly Shonen Sunday, Shogakukan's equivalent to Shonen Jump, the magazine DBZ ran in. They were both shonen series with the same target demo. female toplessness just used to be more accepted in Japan at the time, or rather the government was ran by crusty old fucks who didn't know shit about manga so they could get away with stuff that other media industries couldn't.
Anonymous No.149987551 >>149987689
>>149982195
>can't into Sentai
Power Rangers...
Anonymous No.149987578
>>149987330
Stop talking shit
Anonymous No.149987598 >>149987689
but the early to mid 2000s had some of the best cartoons ever. JLU, ATLA
Anonymous No.149987600 >>149987610 >>149987616
>>149982423
The fuckin boomers saw 1 episode of DBZ during the Namek saga and assumed the entirety of Japanese animation is the same thing.
Anonymous No.149987606
>>149976731 (OP)
This is some interesting cope for a variety of reason. Like even ignoring the fact that Dragon Ball started before Rodger Rabbit, 90% of the good looking western animation in the 80s and 90s were done by Japanese studios.
Also if it did cause the magical collapse in culture why did it take an additional decade to actually take effect?
Anonymous No.149987610 >>149987659
>>149987600
The xoomers, retard kun
Anonymous No.149987616 >>149987657
>>149987600
They were right
Anonymous No.149987634 >>149987664 >>149987695 >>149988244
Pokemon dbz and sailor moon were the best anime had to offer. And they are still the peak the medium can provide
Anonymous No.149987642
>>149980716
Shut the FUCK up, Famicom
Anonymous No.149987657 >>149987699
>>149987616
Wrong retard
Anonymous No.149987659
>>149987610
The coomers...
Anonymous No.149987664 >>149987699
>>149987634
You donโ€™t know shit
Anonymous No.149987689 >>149987699 >>149987808
>>149986968
That was Conan.
>>149987301
There are exceptions.
>>149987506
DUDE!!! We been through this in the past; Ranma 1/2 is a seinen manga due to it's subject matter, only the Netflix remake count as Shonen (by removing the nudity for starters) because that was the only way Sho-Pro can get any money to fund it.

Ranma 1/2 isn't Doraemon.
>>149987551
Pushed by soccer moms when everyone just wanted to watch Animaniacs instead.
>>149987598
No far from it.
Anonymous No.149987695
>>149987634
Hamtaro and Mirumo De Pon (both humans only) put them to shame to be frank.
Anonymous No.149987699 >>149987704 >>149987719 >>149988244
>>149987657
>>149987664
>>149987689
All anime is the same shit but with different paint. Fuck off
Anonymous No.149987704
>>149987699
Shut up disingenous fag
Anonymous No.149987708 >>149987725 >>149988094
>>149977038
Here's your (You) but what exactly is gay about wanting to watch hot anime girls?
Anonymous No.149987719
>>149987699
That use to not be the case.
Anonymous No.149987725
>>149987708
We all know you self insert as the girls
Anonymous No.149987736 >>149987748 >>149987754 >>149987773
>>149976731 (OP)
The real question is why are people surprised? Western Animation has always been on borrowed time. Western Animation historically is proud of being infantile and never growing with its audience. An old man can easily rewatch I don't know Cowboy Bebop or Death Note in his senior years and not feel embarrassed or shamed. That same old man will look like a manchild retard if he's old and still watching trash like Despicable Me or Spongebob.

And it really doesn't help western animation that whenever it tries to do action? It's always self censored garbage.

However anime fans have nothing to celebrate. Anime quality has gone way down. Anyone who tells me One Piece or Naruto is good is an idiot. And anyone who tells me that horrible isekai series are worth your time needs to be tortured especially anyone who likes Mukosho Tensei with that disgusting protagonist. Western animation has never been able to compete with anime, but anime has become so shitty that it will crumble in the coming years due to Low Quality. No one wins at the end.

And anyone who says Koren Demon Hunters is good need to be killed. Such shitty looking trash.
Anonymous No.149987748
>>149987736
>rewatch
>Death Note
>and not feel embarrassed or shamed
Lol?
Anonymous No.149987754 >>149987779 >>149988289
>>149987736
K pop demon hunters is better then any anime that came out in the last ten years
Anonymous No.149987773
>>149987736
Yea, about that...

Also seasons 1-3, the first 2 movies and seasons 9b-12 of SpongeBob slaps.
Anonymous No.149987779 >>149987798
>>149987754
The Boy and the Heron and The Imaginary will like to have a word with you.
Anonymous No.149987798
>>149987779
Don't care
Anonymous No.149987808 >>149987815
>>149987689
>ran in a magazine called 'Shonen'
>"it was seinen"
this is your one single solitary (you) that you'll get from me. cherish it.
Anonymous No.149987815 >>149987920
>>149987808
It didn't ran in a magazine called 'Shonen', be been through this before.
Anonymous No.149987884 >>149988013
>>149977038
Sailor Moon is a beautiful show about beautiful (and dumb!) girls
Anonymous No.149987908 >>149987926 >>149987943
Anonymous No.149987920 >>149987943
>>149987815
>Weekly Shonen Sunday
Anonymous No.149987926
>>149987908
Shopped, but points for effort.
Anonymous No.149987943 >>149987965
>>149987920
>>149987908
Image is shopped, but points for effort.
It did not show up in Weekly Shonen Sunday, we been through this before.
Anonymous No.149987965 >>149987979 >>149987985
>>149987943
What level of mental illness is this?
Anonymous No.149987979
>>149987965
You're the one with a mental illness here.
Anonymous No.149987985 >>149988004
>>149987965
it's picrel
Anonymous No.149988004
>>149987985
No, he's lying.
Anonymous No.149988013 >>149988023
>>149987884
Its a gay show for boys who want to be girls
Anonymous No.149988023 >>149988056
>>149988013
Nah, I wanted to be Tuxedo Mask.
Anonymous No.149988056 >>149988085
>>149988023
Then you should kys because he is the fucking worst and he got his donut glazed by an alien weirdo
Anonymous No.149988085 >>149988103
>>149988056
You sound like you have brainrot.
Anonymous No.149988094 >>149988109
>>149987708
NTA and I donโ€™t give a fuck about whether you are a closeted homo (you do sound like one) but the retarded way you speak and reduce everything in SM to โ€œhOt aNiMe gIrLsโ€ when itโ€™s an artistic masterpiece, means you are either an insecure loser whoโ€™s never seen a woman, massively retarded or just as the other anon assumed, a closeted fag. Either way you should fuck off from the thread and kys.
Anonymous No.149988103
>>149988085
No actual fan likes that masked loser. The best moment were whenever he got B
Anonymous No.149988109 >>149988129 >>149988144 >>149988184
>>149988094
Everybody who likes anime should fuck off. They don't even like cartoons.
Anonymous No.149988129 >>149988150
>>149988109
anime website
Anonymous No.149988144
>>149988109
Well, Iโ€™m ideologically against bait threads and off-topic threads that get posted on boards that arenโ€™t meant to said discussion, so Iโ€™m more than fine with this shit getting nuked and OP and the /r9k/ schizos getting the rope
Anonymous No.149988150 >>149988168 >>149988184 >>149988230 >>149988274 >>149988277
>>149988129
cartoons are better than anime will ever be
Anonymous No.149988152
>>149977038
>Better than Pokemon if you actually tried to watch it without someone screaming into your ear about you being a fag
>Serve as one of the pillars for boys sexual awakening
Don't see why that's hard to understand,
Anonymous No.149988168 >>149988224
>>149988150
For the Japanese they are the exact same thing. I lost the count of the Jap qts in Japan that told me their favourite anime was โ€œDisneyโ€
Anonymous No.149988169
>>149986900
>popularity=quality
What a retard. Using this logic you agree that the Demon Slayer manga is better than every western comic ever made.
Anonymous No.149988184
>>149988109
I like cartoons...
>>149988150
But I don't care for this.
Anonymous No.149988224 >>149988249
>>149988168
Well they better learn the difference between the two. Otherwise they are just as retarded as you.
Anonymous No.149988230 >>149988286 >>149988341
>>149988150
>invincible
Lmao. That not only looked mediocre but it had so many awfully animated scenes that even normalfags complained.
Anonymous No.149988244
>>149987634
Sm and DB were indeed pretty good but only a retard would think they are the best.
>>149987699
You can keep coping retard.
Anonymous No.149988249
>>149988224
Iโ€™m so much smarter than (You) that I can discuss those things with the Japanese in Japanese. You are not on my level. We are not the same.
Anonymous No.149988274 >>149988315
>>149988150
Midvincible can't even compete with low tier trash like Jujutsu Kaisen lmao
Anonymous No.149988277 >>149988341
>>149988150
>literal ripoff of DBZ
Anonymous No.149988286 >>149988315
>>149988230
Still better than any slop you can post
Anonymous No.149988289 >>149988308
>>149987754
>cgi slop
>better than anything
Wrong. Mononoke Karakasa mogs it hard. Also anime has done the same concept decades ago with Macross and they made it way more interesting.
Anonymous No.149988308 >>149988339
>>149988289
Mononoke Hime, not Mononoke Karakasa.
Anonymous No.149988311 >>149988422
This place is filled with people who hate comic and cartoons and find every opportunity to talk about anime and manga instead. Almost everyone here draws more akin to the Japanese style, almost everything they make is basically just fanfics slobbering over something Japanese, almost no one here knows as much about the western mediums as they do the Japanese ones. They complain about modern cartoons when almost half of modern cartoons copy something from anime and manga instead and are the result of weebs themselves. Anime, like Canadian flash toons of the 00's, were also cheaper to bring over.
I don't even know why they come to /co/. But I'll bend the knee, anime won. Cartoons will never be good again, the few high notes that surpass anime are rare and far in between. It's literally fucking over. Time and time again throughout the decades, you see Japanese animators take over a cartoon for an episode and they draw way better than the American studios. Western artists always looked to Japan. Japan won. I'll kill myself.
Anonymous No.149988315
>>149988286
>that explosion was so high budget that they had the fill the screen with png crows after that and everyone has noticed
Kek! Invincible is so garbage.
>Still better than any slop you can post
You wish, the stuff I've posted is automatically better because it's cel animated and it looks good unlike invincible.
>>149988274
This.
Anonymous No.149988320 >>149988333
I'mma post some Popeyes
Anonymous No.149988333 >>149988347
>>149988320
Anonymous No.149988339
>>149988308
Mononoke Hime did not get released in the last 10 years, retard.
Anonymous No.149988341 >>149988419 >>149988434 >>149988452
>>149988277
Show me anybody in your precious anime being this brutal? You can't because it's all for effeminate little boys like yourself. Who'd rather jack off to little girls playing dress up. >>149988230
Anonymous No.149988347 >>149988355
>>149988333
Anonymous No.149988355 >>149988376
>>149988347
I shore loves me some Popeye, yessireebob
Anonymous No.149988375
>>149983382
>Then again, it doesn't help that I'm probably comparing to the slop that gets put out today.
True, it's so much better than all that slop like amphibia and owl house and shit like that, they can never make something with a female lead on par with Sailor Moon
Anonymous No.149988376
>>149988355
Well I got nothing I haven't saved from the 4chins so I'll leave you guys to have your shitflinging contest in peace
Anonymous No.149988419 >>149988434 >>149988452 >>149988493
>>149988341
Imagine being this retarded when anime is probably the goriest medium ever. Genocyber and Midori both destroy the shit out of invincible in that department(not that it matters since gore has nothing to do with quality).
Anonymous No.149988422
>>149988311
I trash on comics and cartoons because I want them to do better. to be better. There is no reason why something like DBZ or Pokemon or Sailor Moon or Berserk or Senran Kagura or whatever couldn't've come from the US, and the fact nobody here has stepped up to the plate is a something that should be shoved in our face constantly until someone actually nuts up and responds. We went down the wrong path with our animation industry, and the first step of rectifying that is to acknowledge that we fucked up. There is no inherent 'special sauce' in Japanese creators that makes them inherently superior at creating fiction. Dismissing what they create with "that's not how WE do things" only serves to continue ceding ground to them. the stubborn refusal to acknowledge that capeshit+Looney Tunes is no longer cool or interesting to kids and young adults will only continue to harm the industry.
Blue Ocean strategy only works when there are actual lands to discover in that ocean.
Anonymous No.149988434 >>149988452 >>149988479 >>149988493
>>149988419
>>149988341
Here have some more. Also the devilman ovas are gory as fuck.
Anonymous No.149988452 >>149988479 >>149988490 >>149988493 >>149988598 >>149988680
>>149988434
>>149988419
>>149988341
Have some Angel cop as well.
Anonymous No.149988465 >>149988570
>>149976731 (OP)
Notice how all that tranime is over 30 years old. Japan ain't doing very well either. Also Pokemon was always brainrot.
Anonymous No.149988479 >>149988490 >>149988551 >>149988598
>>149988452
>>149988434
Too bad invincible is still better at it
Anonymous No.149988490 >>149988512
>>149988452
>>149988479
I don't want to sound like a queer or nothing, but how can you possibly think Invincible's gif looks better than Angel Cop's?
I've seen neither show btw
Anonymous No.149988493 >>149988551
>>149988452
>>149988434
>>149988419
Modern anime would never
Anonymous No.149988512 >>149988548 >>149988551
>>149988490
It looks more recent for one
Two fuck anime
Three japan simps can suck it
Anonymous No.149988548 >>149988583
>>149988512
I accept your concession
Anonymous No.149988551
>>149988479
Not at all. Look how much detail lacks compared to everything I've posted.
>>149988512
>It looks more recent for one
That means it has worse colors, worse direction and worse atmosphere so you basically proved that it's shittier.
>>149988493
I have some examples made after the 00s as well + the guy that made midori has made another indie movie this year, too bad it hasn't been released in the west.
Anonymous No.149988561 >>149988600 >>149988619
This single gif possesses more weight and strength than anime anime from the past 20 years
Anonymous No.149988570
>>149988465
CHADnime is still doing way better than modern cartoons you dumb zoomer.
Anonymous No.149988583 >>149988600 >>149988619
>>149988548
Cope little weeb bitch
Invincible clears anything you weebs like at all
Anonymous No.149988598
>>149988452
>hand painted
>you get to actually see the inside of her head
>good movement
>>149988479
>awful digital colors
>the camera moves away from the gore pretty fast since the animators are too lazy to animate it in detail
>lazy movement
Anonymous No.149988600
>>149988561
>>149988583
There's a century of high quality animation from the west that you could choose, and instead you go for this juvenile trash.
I despise you as a human being.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXoAyBeh6sM
Anonymous No.149988619
>>149988583
Yes it clears them at being pure garage that even the comic fans disliked
>>149988561
Kek, the way he is flying though the air. This feels weightless.
>from the past 20 years
Once again, you wish.
Anonymous No.149988634
>muh blood muh gore
very nice. now find me the western equivalent to picrel
Anonymous No.149988680
>>149988452
Ok, I think you've destroyed him with this