Thread 149982135

So now that the dust has settled, can we finally admit the comics code proliferated the greatest era in comic history and things have been irrevocably shit since it was abandoned in the 90s(one of the worst era of comics, second only to now)

>>149982135 (OP)
Stfu Fredric you are dead

>>149982135 (OP)
Comics only started getting good again when the comics code waned at the start of the bronze age.

>>149982135 (OP)
Comics succeeded in spite of the comics code, not because of it, and the reasons for that success have more to do with larger changes in technology and culture.

Only real comics have it.

>>149982211
This. OP is a retarded contrarian.

>>149982245
Kys again Fredric

>>149982135 (OP)
>So now that the dust has settled, can we finally admit the comics code proliferated the greatest era in comic history and things have been irrevocably shit since it was abandoned in the 90s(one of the worst era of comics, second only to now)

Wertham had a point.
Comics are skivvy.

>>149982332
And that's good

>>149982135 (OP)
this, the code was the best thing that happened to comics because it forced writers to truly think creatively and appeal to the innate righteousness of the human spirit and foster good values that not only inspire society but also future creatives. This is it what happens when you don't reign in degenerate "artists" like Genndy
https://files.catbox.moe/mecoqj.mp4

>>149982369
Cope fag

what a weird thread

>>149982391
Stfu and go watch Cocomelon

It's weird as soon as they dropped it all Heroes became one note assholes.

>>149982369
Yes anon, it's all Jews.

>>149982447
He thinks he speaks for all Jews.

yeah, pretty much the year the CCA was dropped, all the major comics become DEI trash and the smallers labels became increasingly degenerate with no one to check them.

>>149982505
Stfu mongrel

Strange times.

>>149982135 (OP)
>acts like a third party regulatory group
>is actually the big publishers bullying the little guys
Every single time
Huh, I thought MPAA ratings were before the CCA but apparently not so they didn't have that system to look to. It could've been fine if it was a rating system to indicate "this book is for older kids" or "this must be bagged". But the thing is stores and buyers can tell, they don't need to be told , all these ratings systems and parental advisorys are fucking bullshit. Shit it's like Dee Snyder said
>I'd look at the cover and if the art or if the band name or album title has violent or sexual imagery it probably isn't for kids. Then I'd read the song list if it has titles like "Rape Your Face" then that's not for kids. And I'd listen to it to see if it's the kind of thing I want my kids listening to
>You'd actually listen to the kind of music your kids are into?
>Yes
It is telling the Senator would ask such a question, it shows the mindset of the kind of scum who want ratings boards and shit. They don't want to be involved with their own shitty kids

>>149982549
Honestly the last panel goes hard

>>149982135 (OP)
The Comics Code literally saved the industry, The CCA was a proactive response to the moral panic of the 1950s, fueled by increasingly degenerate works in the horror and pulp genres, the book Seduction of the Innocent proved a link between comics to juvenile delinquency. By self-regulating, the industry avoided harsher government censorship or bans, preserving creative control.

>>149982567
>You'd actually listen to the kind of music your kids are into?
I'll need to do this when my siblings kids are at the age when this sort of thing starts. I don't look forward to being a boomer uncle but..

>>149982588
Grow a pair you fag

>>149982391
The comics code was full of bullies who used the code to go after their competition. There was one storyline in a mag that ended with an astronaut being revealed as a black man and despite not breaking the code at all they went after the book.

Marv Wolfman almost fell afoul of the code as well because of his last name, Wolfman, because the code banned a bunch of supernatural shit from being in comics too.

>>149982588
>a link between comics to juvenile delinquency
The UK had a similar moral panic over comic books and half of it was caused by a bullshit story of a group of kids playing in a cemetry hunting vampires, as kids games go, but people turned it into a violent thing. There was never any proof.

>>149982135 (OP)
what would comics industry have looked like without the code

>>149982135 (OP)
It is kind of amazing how you can't have a thread on /co/ that is something like:
>let's discuss the comics code
because no one would reply, so instead you have to have a controversial opinion of:
>this shit was great
to shitpost start a conversation.

Seriously tho, I hope Trump re-establishes the CCA at the federal level before his term ends, we can finally put an end to DEI sloppa once and for all. It might be the only thing that can save the industry before its too late...

>>149982670
>Marv Wolfman almost fell afoul of the code as well because of his last name, Wolfman, because the code banned a bunch of supernatural shit from being in comics too.
Holy shit, i need to see that cause it sounds too stupid to be real

>>149982703
see>>149982391

>>149982764
>Writer Marv Wolfman's name was briefly a point of contention between DC Comics and the CCA. In the supernatural-mystery anthology House of Secrets #83 (Jan. 1970), the book's host introduces the story "The Stuff that Dreams are Made of" as one told to him by "a wandering wolfman". The CCA rejected the story and flagged the "wolfman" reference as a violation. Fellow writer Gerry Conway explained to the CCA that the term referred to Marv Wolfman. The CCA agreed that it would not be a violation, as long as Wolfman received a writer's credit on the first page of the story; that led to DC beginning to credit creators in its supernatural-mystery anthologies.[24]

>>149982756
Stfu zionist cocksucker

>>149982688
As far as I know the UK (somewhat surprisingly) never introduced any kind of CCA equivalent though. I mean we had stuff like 2000AD in every newsagents and nobody seemed to care.

>>149982769
It would be good

>>149982764
strangers shit has happened anon. There used to be a youtuber who got big in the early 2010s who ran a channel talking about horror/mystery topics, was very succesfull, but then around 2010 his channel got shadow banned because his REAL last name was a slur(dyke), literally went from millions of views to just a couple thousand over the span of a few months. He even changed legally changed his name and started a new channel but youtube deleted it and hes basically been MIA since 2021

You can choose to read the comics you want

>>149982851
They literally did:
>Children and Young Persons (Harmful Publications) Act 1955
>The Children and Young Persons (Harmful Publications) Act 1955 is an Act of Parliament of the United Kingdom Parliament that prohibited comics that were thought to be harmful to children.

>>149982908
People have shown time and time again that they cant choose properly for themselves. We need to make sure they cant make harmful choices in the first place.

>>149982955
Shut up

>>149982851
>>149982946
Some kids hunting for a vampire in a Glasgow cemetry helped cause a moral panic around horror comics.

>>149982946
Huh. I guess nobody really cared about enforcing that law then.
>There were no prosecutions under the Act until 1970, when there were two. The Attorney General refused to prosecute in 46 other cases between 1955 and 1982. There were no offences under the act recorded between April 2004 and February 2008.
>Two prosecutions in 70 years
Yeah, it seems they really didn't.

>>149982391
>https://files.catbox.moe/mecoqj.mp4
I just look at all the cool shit japan was doing while american comic artists had to suffer through this bullshit and all you gotta retort with is this scene. that's pathetic.

>>149983063
ESL

>>149983036
>Huh. I guess nobody really cared about enforcing that law then.
>Yeah, it seems they really didn't.
The issue wasn't around legal enforcement, the issue was around what retailers would stock. With the CCA in America, there were underground comics but many newsstands would refuse to stock them if they didn't have the code. In the UK, retailers wouldn't stock comics that weren't compliant, effectively making it a ban.
>Comic book expert Barry Forshaw said getting their hands on one of the underground American horror comics had been like finding the Holy Grail for schoolyards of British children reared on the squeaky clean fare found every week inside the Beano and Dandy - both of which are produced in Scotland.
Old article:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8574484.stm

>I mean we had stuff like 2000AD in every newsagents and nobody seemed to care.
The reason why stuff like 2000AD was shocking was because 2000AD came after a time when most comics were either Beano and Dandy or the odd bloodless war/action hero stuff. 2000AD was genuinely shocking for audiences because of this. I'd recommend watching the Future Shock: 2000AD documentary. They felt like punk rockers at the time.

>>149982135 (OP)
Moral panics over comics have always been retarded

>>149982135 (OP)
Yes but also no
It made capeshit the only viable mass-market product for a decade by killing horror and crime comics but The Big Two were branching out and making non-code direct market comics and graphic novels in the 70s-80s (by which time the Code had lost its teeth).
The real question is why did the oppressed masses who were so tired of superheroes simply not buy more non-superhero comics?
Also the 90s were extremely based and one of the best eras for comics.

>>149982908
Its not really a choice if all the choices are woke degen garbage.

>>149983601
Most comics aren't woke, they're just shit.

>>149983542
>Also the 90s were extremely based and one of the best eras for comics
The 90s is when hacks like Ennis and Liefield took over and started polluting the well with shit like the Boys and fagpool
CCA literally gave us the peak era of spiderman

>>149983660
>CCA literally gave us the peak era of spiderman
What do you consider the peak era?

>>149983660
The Boys is forme the 2000’s retard kun

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>>149983877
Would this site being shutdown be such a bad thing? Its literally a blackhole sucks innocent young men into a spiral of self hatred and degeneracy. More than half of its user base is porn addicted and unemployed(by choice). I would gladly have sites 4chan banned for the greater good of society

>>149982135 (OP)
man I know God doesn't exist for it he did and this was a just world then contrarian posting on 4chan would get immediately met with the poster having stomach acid diarrhea

>>149983973
To be clear, this guy's a retarded christfag, but the first half of his post wasn't wrong. What the fuck are we doing here?

>>149983973
Kys

>>149983973
You know you can just fuck off, right?

>>149984014
He's a troll, I think, but since you're probably not I'll answer your question: I like anonymity. No reputation and no drama follows me around. Nothing I post here can be used against me. I can change my mind about something without anyone ever knowing I did. I can simply abandon arguments if I get bored. Nowhere else offers that.

>>149982670
Enjoy

>>149984104
This

Comics Code was based and I'm tired of pretending it wasn't. We used to have real art like All Star Superman, now all we have is trash like Crossed.

>>149984149
kys faggot christcuck

>>149984157
Just a reminder that every single secular society is failing right now.

>>149984149
The comics code waned in the 70s, in the 80s comics were routinely published without it from the Big 2. All Star Superman was published in 2005, Crossed in 2008. Comics code didn't influence All Star Superman even though DC were still technically part of it until 2011 because by then no one really cared.

>>149984179
So?

>>149984193
>DC wasn't part of the comics code at the time
>Actually it was... but... ummm, oops I torpedoed my own argument

>>149984511
The code was meaningless post 80s. Why I'm responding to such obvious bait is beyond me, but everyone else can have the history lesson.

>>149984511
>>DC wasn't part of the comics code at the time
No where does that post say that, it just says the CCA stopped meaning anything

>>149984571
>>149984618
Nice fanfiction. The Comics Code was what made DC and Marvel great, their sales plummeted once they left.

>>149982135 (OP)
While I do think it overextended on what something like this should do (An age rating system would have worked better than a medium wide "One size fits all" code), I also feel like the response to it going away led to it's own share of bad practices that we're still dealing with to this day.

>>149984511
All Star Superman was not published under the comics code. DC had plenty of books not published under it. Since the 1980s DC routinely published books outside the code even though they were still part of the code until then.

>>149984651
Code waned in the 1970s. Basically Bronze and Modern age barely paid lip service to it and straight up ignored it a plenty. You're just plain wrong.

>>149982135 (OP)
So the comic books used to have a wide variety of genres get reduced to superheroes, Archie, and kiddie books. It's nice to know there's a bunch nannies that are looking out to moral standards high.

The America is so much better to have Harvey that used to publish horror comics to making kiddie books.

>>149984663
>part of [Comics Code] until 2011
It literally was.

>>149984703
Anon, are you retarded? You went on the wiki page and rather than reading the whole thing you read one part:
>In 1984, the Comics Code Authority denied Swamp Thing issue #29 the seal of approval; however, DC decided to continue publishing the title without the approval. Some subsequent DC series, including Watchmen and The Dark Knight Returns (1986), launched without ever receiving the CCA Seal of approval. For example, the adult content-geared 1993 DC Vertigo imprint did not launch with CCA approval.
Whilst DC was part of the code until 2011, it still routinely published things without code approval. All Star Superman was not a code book.

it destroys one's soul to see someone post such obvious shit even if they're just trolling. I hope you enjoy the giggles you're getting from (you)s here when something like the CCA gets reinstated yet again thanks to moral panics that you're fuelling

reminder that by the 2000s the CCA consisted of one solitary old lady in a desk who got mailed proofs of whatever few new comics publishers decided to send her, approved or disapproved, and sent the judgement back. if she disapproved, they'd just ignore her anyway. By the 2000s all that "being in the CCA" meant was whether there was a CCA seal on the cover or not, because the comic got printed either way.

>>149984933
This whole thread is bait. On /co/ you can't say:
>I read Kirby's Fantastic Four, what did you think of it anons?
You have to say:
>I think Stan Lee did all the work in Fantastic Four
or
>I think Kirby's FF is overrated
Create a basic argument with a narrative most will disagree on.

>>149982549
I feel like one day Ill just have to read all the comics with Doom as a major character just to figure out how much of what people say about him is headcanon

>>149985018
I know that, but it doesn't mean I have to find it any less revolting. Especially since you have the old maxim of laying with idiots. Troll enough, and it's no longer trolling, you'll suddenly one day realize it's just your opinion at this point, etc

>>149985029
Most comics are basically just slightly more elaborate headcanons anyway.

>>149985018
While I don’t disagree with your assessment, Poe’s Law is now in full effect on 4chan around issues of moralfaggotry. Thank pre-2018 tumblr and post-2016 /pol/ for bringing both flavours.

>>149982211
>>149982268
The comics code was universal until the 90s and remained in place until the 2010s, coincidentally right when everything the big two put out turned to dogshit. Makes you think

>>149985206
More bait. The late 70s had drug PSA books like Green Arrow/Green Lantern of a Spider-Man one be published outside the code. Then in the 80s plenty of books were outside the code:
>>149984768
>>In 1984, the Comics Code Authority denied Swamp Thing issue #29 the seal of approval; however, DC decided to continue publishing the title without the approval. Some subsequent DC series, including Watchmen and The Dark Knight Returns (1986), launched without ever receiving the CCA Seal of approval. For example, the adult content-geared 1993 DC Vertigo imprint did not launch with CCA approval.
By the 90s and 00s the code did next to nothing:
>>149984975
>reminder that by the 2000s the CCA consisted of one solitary old lady in a desk who got mailed proofs of whatever few new comics publishers decided to send her, approved or disapproved, and sent the judgement back. if she disapproved, they'd just ignore her anyway. By the 2000s all that "being in the CCA" meant was whether there was a CCA seal on the cover or not, because the comic got printed either way.

>>149982391
>Has to go to cartoons, another American Medium crippled by American censorship for an example
Fixed wouldn't exist in a world where Americans didn't feel the need to censor their art every few decades because it wouldn't be special. Fixed is a symptom of the problem.

>/co/ wants to bring back the censorship council that helped turn American comics into a joke and was probably the main reason manga was able spread through the states like it did
lmao this fucking board

>>149986533
Well, just because they want to bring it back, doesn't mean they are gonna get their lazy asses out of chairs and make their desires a reality. The only thing /co/ has to show for these these days is unfulfilled dreams

Degeneracy needs to be rooted oug at its core; the artists. We federalize the Comics Code Authority and put a leash on these Woke zombies, everything else will fall into place.

Degeneracy needs to be routed out at its core; the artists. We need to federalize the Comics Code Authority and put a leash on these Woke zombies, everything else will fall into place.

>>149982135 (OP)
counterpoint:

Morbius got better in the 90s

>>149987988
i agree, ban any depictions from the bible since the bible is also full of violence (including against children) and degeneracy

>>149987988
>>149988046
Samefag. Go back to /b/ you raging autist. We have standards for shitposting here

>>149988227
who's the autist?

>>149986533
Just like the people they hate, the ones that ruined comics, it's all about politics for them.
They're the same fucktarded, censor-fiend, comic book-ruining faggots on opposite sides of the coin.

>>149986533
Comics thrived under the Code and lost relevance without it. Pretty much everything you like was published under the Code.

>>149989003
but that's not true at all. there's a reason comic strips were seen as the actual good stuff. comics were doing shit like "batman becomes a flat buzzsaw" because they could no longer do actual worthwhile material like what EC Comics were doing before it. Any comics that did thrive thrived in spite of the CCA, not because of it. Which would be really obvious if you knew anything of comics history and weren't just baiting

>>149989003
no, comics lost relevance when the comic inflation happened in the 90s (just like the video game cartridge inflation in the 80s) and the writing started to go downhill in the 2000s and went to shit by 2014 if not before. comics code had nothing to do with it

>>149989089
you could also point to the shift to comic book shops rather than newsstands out of greed for the publishing houses but that's not useful for either christcuck larping or false flag trolling so eh. we're wasting time anon

>>149982135 (OP)
>since it was abandoned in the 90s(one of the worst era of comics, second only to now)
Marvel and DC abandoned it in the 2000s, not the 90s. And 2000s Marvel and DC is indeed largely worse than their 90s comics. Things have just kept getting worse ever since.

The CCA was largely toothless by the 90s, but dropping it in the 2000s, combined with editorial letting the inmates run the asylum at Marvel led to them quickly going full retard, and DC following their lead just to try and keep up.

>>149989118
>you could also point to the shift to comic book shops rather than newsstands
Newsstands made up a percentage of comics sales but so did various types of shop. The problem with newsstand system is they tended to get central distribution orders so orders were super unreliable in how many you got per stand. Comics had a low profit margins so they weren't bothered in specific ordering. Then, comics weren't returned if they were unsold, they sent back ripped covers or eventually nothing at all. It was found these unsold comics were being resold without passing profits on. Now the issue is that the information around sales would form the basis of print runs, but because the information was inaccurate this would lead to issues getting your comic or you'd get a comic with a ripped cover. So this distribution system was unreliable and bad for everyone except the resellers.

The first direct market and the movement towards comic book shops saved the industry because the orders balanced risk. Shops wouldn't return unsold books but got better bulk discounts, consumers reliably got their books of a better quality without ripped covers and orders were genuinely more accurate for print purposes.

Part of the crash was companies buying distributors like mad and over leveraging their financial positions in such a way. Post crash the Diamond distribution monopoly is the only thing that kept comics going and investigations into it's monopoly concluded as such.

Of course this entrenched model has prevented comics from growing but the only alternative is the book market. One writer has stated that creators at the big two purposefully want to crash the comic book shop system simply because they know their crap books would do better in the book market languishing on shelves and only selling a few thousand copies. These expectations, metrics and market would better suit them, even if it would make comics even more irrelevant.

The code nearly killed comic books.

DC and Dell cranked out safe, conservative shit for the most part (and Dell didn't even submit to the code).

Archie and Harvey put out kiddie shit.

Charleton just put out shit.

Atlas/Marvel nearly died. Several other publishers did die.

>>149982135 (OP)
The 90s was the best era

>>149991512
90s and 2000s were both great decades

>>149987988
The artists are the least of the matter, most are just foreigners with no clue to US politics these days. It’s the writers.

>>149991502
>Harvey
Are these comics still even published following DreamWorks purchase of Harvey Comics in 2012 and Universal's buyout of DreamWorks in 2016? Because all I see from the likes of Casper, Wendy, Ghostly trio and such are just name brands

>>149982294
Did he actually say this. I never watched this dude

>>149982212
Comics succeeded because of the invention of the direct market that allowed creators to circumvent the CCA

>>149982332
>Kick kids out of spaces and make parents do their job?
>Nah, we'll just force everything to be kid friendly instead!
Fuck this bullshit.

>>149984179
And so was every theocratic one, who also engaged in might makes right like shit in your image.

>60's role around
>New superhero boom from Marvel, real height of the silver age
>Funny animal comics(the "safe" stuff) stop being as popular as they were in the 50's
>Underground comix boom by the late 60's, independent comics that directly ignore the CCA and doing whatever they want
>Continued going up to the 70's, attracted people who were funny animal fans and felt shafted once superheroes became popular again
>furries happened
>later B&W boom happened
I genuinely don't know what to think about the CCA. What it can genuinely be pointed at for killing(crime and horror comics, EC), what it can't(funny animal comics), what it really caused to proliferate and whether they would've happened on their own anyway(superheroes and underground comix)
People point to the superhero monopoly, but there were still non cape comics for decades after, and some of them published directly by Marvel and DC in order to diversify. I honestly don't know what to blame on the CCA and their interference, and what you should just blame on the market and audiences

Frederick was unique because the politics of that time were much more complex. Unlike today, where if you step out of line a little, you are considered a traitor.

>>149990048
Exactly. Artists are inherently degenerate and NEED things like the Code to reign them in and keep them in their place. That is why everything is low iq slop now appealing to the lowest common denominators, polluting the minds of anyone naive enough to read it.

>>149993192
Nobody reads comics because they're low on talent, self-censored, and full of propaganda. Not because they're degenerate.

>>149982135 (OP)
The comics code set American literature back by decades and is the reason why capeshit refused to die. So no, it was a mistake. It should’ve never been a thing to begin with. By the time it was removed, it was far too late.

>>149982391
Shut up retard, FIXED was great

>>149991583
Harvey stopped publishing Casper and Richie Rich in 1982.

>>149993542
>FIXED was great
Destroyed your entire post.

>>149994096
Cope grubhubfag

>>149992513
>I honestly don't know what to blame on the CCA and their interference
I almost believe Frank Miller's take at this point that the whole thing was a plan by the distributors and publishers to put EC out of business.
>If you read the Comics Code — and I have — you’ll see that it was written with no purpose more noble than driving EC Comics out of business. That was its purpose, and it succeeded at it
https://miniver.blogspot.com/2013/02/frank-miller-on-comics-code-authority.html?m=1

>>149994199
I've seen people backing this up, like even Archie would cash in on horror stuff after the CCA drove other horror comics out of the industry

>>149994628
Something that gets left out of the conversation was that EC credited their artists at a time when most companies kept their talent anonymous, and EC was paying their artists the most, they were getting a reputation as being among the best paying companies and giving artists credit, which means it could've (and would've) meant that all the other publishers would've had to start doing the same in order to stay competitive.

I just think it's aesthetically pleasing when you see it on a cover

>>149992570
Frederick is an odd one, he a German speaker who learned to speak English thru comic books.

>>149994842
exacty, when you saw that bold white and black on the cover of your book, you knew you were about to read absolute kino

Phenomenal bait thread

censorshipfags need to be lynched

>>149982588
Lol Seduction of the Innocent is moral panic pseudoscience, it didn't prove shit.

>>149982505
>brings dei out of nowhere.

>>149992181
All the major theocracies are currently on the ascension. Dubai is the most economically vibrant country in the world, and Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey are going to be global powers in the next century.

>>149993542
>>149995881
>>149992171
>>149988046

>complain about the rise of degeneracy in culture and low quality writing superceding in all forms of media
>"y'kno maybe we should do something to keep the industry alive before its too late, maybe we should look at what the old guys did when all the best comics came out
>fuck off kike, you take my porn away and I'll rape everything that moves!!!
This is you

>>149994057
I figured they haven't done any comics past 1982 and are just doing animation stuff, just like how Matt Groening is just doing animation work and less of his comics after 2018

>>149997256
>when all the best comics came out
They were shrugging off the code at that point.

>>149982135 (OP)
Fuck this thing, it made Batman boring in the SA.

>>149999153
There really was no difference in tone between late 50s and early 50s Batman comics, they already toned him down in the early 40s. Superhero comics weren't changed at all. All the edgy comics for older readers were shut down.

>>149991502
The funny thing is Dell and EC were part of the same commercial group and yet Dell decided it was good to stab EC on the back.

>>149999153
The 50s was Batmans peak in both art and story telling, not too mention the Code is was blossomed the greatest adaptation of the Caped Crusader to date. This is no Batman without the CCA

You don't wanna hear this but this is what happens when you let right wing conservative retards run rampant. You think you're so edgy and contrarian until they start praising censorship and wanting to bring it back

>>149982135 (OP)
But the best time in comic history was the 1920s-40s. The Gumps, Bringing Up Father, Gasoline Alley, Polly and Her Pals, Krazy Kat, Annie, Dick Tracy, Wash Tubbs, etc etc etc

>>149999765
If you think having common decency is "censorship" then your just a fucking reprobate that needs to go back to Israel.

>>149997256
I have no problem with porn existing, as long as it's not being pushed on children, and there's some sort of minimum effort to prevent *easy* access from kids. On the internet, I'd say that just telling users to enter their birthday and IP banning underage or invalid dates for 30-60 days is enough, and as for meatspace, just have an adults only section of a store controlled by a remotely "buzzed" gate/door, or just making the entire store adults only.

>>150000037
shhh you're talking to a capeslop reader contrarian, you expect him to know the actual quality american comics were in newspapers instead?

>>150000082
Behind you, werewolves and vampires!
>go back to Israel
Sorry, I'm not an evangelical Christian

Marvel and DC published plenty of kid-friendly versions of their superheroes from the 90s-10s but the sales were terrible, the market just wasn't there. The adult readers want edgy capes. If they pulled back again, they'd just go out of business, most people don't want to pay money for that, especially now.

>>150000604
People don't want know what they want to till you ween them off and show what they need. Eventually they'll forget they ever had a taste for degeneracy. Just as you wouldn't let a bratty child eat nothing but chocolate cake, sometime you need to remove the option altogether and show them how good it is to enjoy a platter of fruit and veggies.

>>149982890
Is Dick Van Dyke banned on YouTube?
I loved him in Merry Poppins.
Even auto correct is censoring Dick's last name

>>150001710
The youtuber he's talking about was Rob Dyke, he tried hard as hell to reboot his career but YT just keep banning his accounts. He killed himself last year I think.

>>150000604
DCAU completely refutes your argument.

>>150002527
Yeah those cartoons kids could watch for free on tv were really popular. The animated tie-in comics sold piddly.

>>150002683
Television is a better medium.

>>150002697
So you don't want comics, you want cartoons.

>>149982670
>There was one storyline in a mag that ended with an astronaut being revealed as a black man and despite not breaking the code at all they went after the book.
A better time. Based Comic's Code keeping the DEIfags in line.

>>149994199
Imagine an alternate timeline where stuff like this cover weren't targeted and stamped out 70 years ago

>>150003170
They were testing the boundaries of the time, though. This was an era when movies still followed the Hays Code and Elvis was considered sexually provocative for shaking his hips.
If horror comics had been sold to an adult audience in seedy little stores, they could've escaped public scrutiny for a longer time. But they were marketed and sold to children. It was inevitable that someone would notice and target them.

>>150002712
This board should really divorce it self already because the demographics for these 2 mediums just don't really get along.

>take all comics back to superhero slop and born-again Archie

Fuck no.

>>150003395
Honestly with all the garbage that airs on streaming services today. I'd fully endorse the Hays code being enforced again

>>150004447
That would kill streaming. People wuold flock to tiktok and shit.

>>150005372
Many countries have already banned or are trying to ban tiktok so that's not really an issue. Even most youtubers are just regurgitating and gossiping about other media they've consumed. Hell with what's going on Britain right now I think it's actually very plausible to extend the Hays code to American based live stream companies like YouTube and Twitch. We just need to get the ball rolling.

My God this thread is bleak as hell. When did /co/ become /pol/

>>150005715
the whole site became /pol/ through the 2010s+ 4chan posters being stupid contrarians thinking that's how they're better than others + /co/ attracts genuine autists and schizos who are unable to act beyond mentally retarded kneejerk reactions and their kneejerk reactions tell them the latest movie or show or comic was shit therefore things were better back decades ago when everything had to be the shittiest blandest thing ever

>>150004177
>take comics back to when they were profitable
Oh no, what a nightmare.

>>150005886
people used to be ashamed of being greedy

>>150006061
>don't publish stories children want to read
>instead focus on "mature" stories for shut-ins with sex and gore
>wonder why sales are declining and comic shops shut down

>>150006082
that's not what you were saying, don't move your goalposts

>>150005715
People claimed they were being right wing just for shits and giggles and to be contrarian and edgy, and then they became evangelical soccer moms while pretend to be cool
Some newfags are also cretins who think that's the point of this site and get mad when you're not part of the hivemind

>>150005715
One or two Stormfront faggots does not a /pol/ make.

>>150005699
Pirate streaming still exists, you corporate psychopath.

>>150005886
>just make money, loser!

I'd sooner give to Tim Buckley's comics than ever support a comic code endorsed slop.

>>150004447
It wouldn't make a difference. They made an exception for The Pawnbroker.

>>149982194
Is he now?

>>149982135 (OP)
What is the CODE?

>>149982135 (OP)
no

>>149993542
>>149982433
Fixed is one of the worst things ever made.

>>149985317
You're an idiot.

I dont know man, with all the terrible shit that's come out in the last few years maybe the CCA coming back wouldn't such a bad thing. It would reign in all the rainbow haired freaks in the writers room at least.

Foolish.

>>150009590
Honestly with the state of the industry right now this is probably the only thing that could save it.

>>150004177
Sergio Aragones and Nick Cardy's Bat Lash and Robert Kanigher and Joe Kubert's Enemy Ace were excellent CCA-approved non-superhero comics, though they were cancelled after a short period of time because kids simply weren't interested, they wanted superheroes.

>>149991502
Considering what they're putting out without the CCA? Maybe they should have died.

>>149982135 (OP)
No I hate it because it indirectly ruined indie comics/comix. Everything that wasn't cca was just needlessly ugly drawings with boobs trying to prove some sort of point, some of the greatest cartoonists stuck drawing nothing but now outdated smut

>>150010039
It would kill it.

>>150002512
Rob dyke died ?

>>150008310
> the CCA coming back wouldn't such a bad thing. It would reign in all the rainbow haired freaks in the writers room at least.


If it could it would have to like an age rating system like the mpaa and the esrb

>>149982135 (OP)
it was abandoned in the 70s

>>150011771
Marvel and DC Comics do have age ratings on comics now, CCA irrelevant. But as it is, most of their mainline comics are teen or teen+ and of course they would be because little kids don't read superhero comics anymore.

God save The CCA!

>>150011802
It got lax, but it wasn't irrelevant. Marvel tried magazines without it in the 70s but everything except Conan failed, largely because of distribution issues, and then Marvel and DC started publishing comics in the direct market without it in the 80s and then it just was matter of time before it'd be gone for good.

When you think about it TV was actually pretty good under the Hays code as well. It would probably be very beneficial if we could extend its jurisdictions to streaming platforms as well. It would certainly put a stop to all the bullshit going in the MCU and DCCU