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Anonymous No.150013492 >>150013508 >>150013562 >>150013573 >>150013604 >>150013716 >>150013888 >>150013913 >>150013933 >>150013960 >>150014476 >>150014533 >>150016152 >>150017085 >>150018768 >>150021173 >>150021203 >>150022361 >>150023707 >>150025889 >>150027372 >>150027649 >>150027663
Does /co/ still like Spider-Man
Anonymous No.150013508 >>150013562
>>150013492 (OP)
/co/ either likes shipping him with every single female or bitching about something.
Anonymous No.150013562 >>150013580
>>150013492 (OP)
yeah i just ignore modern canon

>>150013508
hey, i only ship him with his wives Felicia and MJ
Anonymous No.150013573 >>150013640 >>150026976
>>150013492 (OP)
Of course. Who wouldn't?
Anonymous No.150013580
>>150013562
>Felicia
Sorry anon she'll always only be a side bitch when Peter isn't with MJ.
Anonymous No.150013588 >>150013736
I read past the essentials last year, and yeah I like Spider-Man. I now get why his fans have been so mad these past couple decades. The character has fallen off hard, like crazy hard.
Anonymous No.150013604 >>150013736
>>150013492 (OP)
I will always like Spider-man. I do not like what they are doing to him or with him but I will always like the good parts.
Anonymous No.150013640 >>150013673
>>150013573
Shut up Bendis
Anonymous No.150013673
>>150013640
Stop taking the obvious bait anon.
Anonymous No.150013716
>>150013492 (OP)
Sorry, I'm not into CBT.
Anonymous No.150013736 >>150018052
>>150013588
>>150013604
These. Love Spider-Man, hate what those cock-gobblers in Marvel editorial have been doing to him for nearly 20 years. They won't learn anything until the bag & board retards stop dropping the book enmasse, but then of course they'll twist it into "I guess people don't like Spider-Man anymore!"
Anonymous No.150013780 >>150013833 >>150013834
There's actually so many things going on in the comics against Peter, its honestly kind of impressive at this point.
Shit writing, the existence of Miles, the Spider-verse and literally everything related to the concept, complete dissolution of Peters supporting cast, everything to do with OMD and Mary Jane, complete and total destruction of Peters characterization, Miles, and shit, just god awful writing.
I genuinely do not think ASM is ever going to recover. The foundation is simply rotten, there are no good stories to tell with Peter anymore because no matter from where you pull your idea for a story from, its been corrupted and made worse by a creative decision somewhere in the last 20 years.
Anonymous No.150013833
>>150013780
Marvel editorial needs to be gutted, the wrong people got into the right positions and have been killing their flagship titles (Spider-Man and all the X-Books). I'd say it was corporate espionage if I didn't know guys like Brevoort and Cebulski are THAT retarded and can't take Quesada's dick out of their mouths.
Anonymous No.150013834 >>150013857 >>150013895
>>150013780
>the existence of Miles
Imagine feeling threatened by a character that never interacts with Peter. There was Spectacular Spider-Men but that didn't last long.
Anonymous No.150013857 >>150013882 >>150013899
>>150013834
Why does Miles Morales exist? This is a documented and easily searchable factoid, but I want to hear it from you.
Anonymous No.150013862 >>150023952
Marvel needs a DC style reboot, but not a "new and imrpoooved version!" made by soibois, just a fucking reset back to status quo of like, what these characters are actually supposed to be, not this convoluted bullshit
Anonymous No.150013882
>>150013857
To fill the void in 616 left by OMD.
Anonymous No.150013888
>>150013492 (OP)
Dunno. 5 bucks'll refresh me memory
Anonymous No.150013895 >>150013981
>>150013834
No, he's right. Just from reading ultimate incursion I got the feeling that Miles just has this AURA of bad writing around him... This whole issue was seriously terrible to read.
Anonymous No.150013899
>>150013857
He's a legacy character yet one that isn't attached to his predecessor like so many are. Marvel tends to separate their legacy characters and have them fend for themselves.
Anonymous No.150013913
>>150013492 (OP)
I like him and I hate what Marvel is writing him these days.
I'm sick and tired of Peter being the multiversal chew toy because the writers and editorial themselves are miserable and horrible creatures who get a boner when a fictional character is made to suffer.
Anonymous No.150013933 >>150013958 >>150014016 >>150014491 >>150015296 >>150016152
>>150013492 (OP)
How strong is Peter supposed to be?
Anonymous No.150013958
>>150013933
However strong the story calls for.
Anonymous No.150013960 >>150013983 >>150014072
>>150013492 (OP)
Aint read a spider-man in a while. what should I read?
Anonymous No.150013981 >>150014467 >>150017221 >>150029108 >>150029399
>>150013895
There are single pages on /co/ where I can preemptively tell it will get a dozen replies and will be reposted for years. You need to stop getting hung up about Miles in another universe getting a compliment. Instead you should focus on ASM, the comic that stars Peter and is a constant top 10 seller.
Anonymous No.150013983
>>150013960
Nothing current (and by current, since 'One More Day' 20 years ago)
Anonymous No.150014016 >>150014075 >>150014476 >>150016065
>>150013933
Able to lift trains, able to tear apart a pier, but not able to beat Kingpin unless he's pissed and in his black suit. He also loses to street level villains.
Anonymous No.150014072
>>150013960
your best bet is to stick to minis and one-shots
Anonymous No.150014075 >>150014519
>>150014016
>I won't allow anyone to humiliate me again
>regularly lets MJ emasculate him when the old Peter would have just called out her bullshit and fucked off
This page did not age well
Anonymous No.150014467 >>150014619
>>150013981
I have been reading ultimate spider-man, the one where Peter is being done some justice.
Also I'm not some drone who has only read one page on /co/, this is something I read online before buying to make sure I wasn't wasting my money when I went to pick it up
Anonymous No.150014476 >>150014575 >>150017305
>>150013492 (OP)
>>150014016
so does spiderman actually exercise like a dbz character or does he just take his powers as is and doesnt expand much on them?
Anonymous No.150014491
>>150013933
>How strong is Peter supposed to be?
Golden Age Superman.
Anonymous No.150014519 >>150014729
>>150014075
>regularly lets MJ emasculate him when the old Peter would have just called out her bullshit and fucked off
Anonymous No.150014533 >>150014545
>>150013492 (OP)
So does this imply if Peter were to work on his strength, he could clear properly 20 tons?
Anonymous No.150014545
>>150014533
Yes
Anonymous No.150014575
>>150014476
I have never seen a panel of Peter at a gym or lifting weights at home of any kind.
Anonymous No.150014590 >>150014665 >>150015142 >>150015770
how come hes allowed to be with MJ in everything but the main comic universe
also just why does editorial treat marriage like its just a dead end for a character? Less shits are given for when a character dies compared to them getting married
Anonymous No.150014619 >>150015257
>>150014467
I want to like Ultimate more than I do I think. It's nice to see Peter and MJ as a loving family and it's somewhat interesting but I can't help but feel this is all going to implode at some point and once this whole event is over what are we going to be left with. I also can't help but feel like it's all been a giant distraction so they can keep fucking up 616. Because really while its nice to see it's still not really what fans want. Though tt hat all said I like to swerve from the clone era into the MC2 and read that as the proper continuation.
Anonymous No.150014665
>>150014590
>also just why does editorial treat marriage like its just a dead end for a character?
Because their actual marriages suck. They were losers who got settled for and ended up with dead bedrooms or divorce.
Anonymous No.150014729
>>150014519
Thanks for proving my point. Peter called MJ out the exact moment she started playing games and was ready to dump her on the spot, which made MJ stop her bullshit immediately. This Peter would have called MJ out the moment she tried to guilt him with Paul and fucked off from her life instead of desperately simping for her and pining after her like loser. Hell, this Peter wouldn't have tolerated MJ's pre-OMD bullshit when she went with the whole "sure we may be married but let's live separately and you have to accept me banging actors on the side" during the JRJR times
Anonymous No.150015142 >>150015275
>>150014590
>To the wider general audience MJ will always be his wife
>The best way to experience modern Spider-Man is to simply stop reading his books and headcanon or read fanfics of the stories you want
Anonymous No.150015257
>>150014619
I also want to like ultimate more than I actually do,
it's nice and all but it's irl time format works against telling a good story it feels.
Anonymous No.150015275 >>150015368
>>150015142
Y'know MJ's full last name sounds like a fashion studio or a fashionable/affordable eyeglasses brand. I'm surprised nobody has used MJ's career in the modern era to explore how influencer types get into these brand deals or how they market themselves. I bet a writer would have a bunch of women young or old walk up to MJ and see her as a role model in that sense.
Some female supervillain like Shathra disgusing herself and inflitrating MJ's agent and his agency could be another storyline.
Also Screwball could have been used to comment on that stuff more as well. But nah Slott has just gotta do the surface-level stuff and nothing else.
Anonymous No.150015296
>>150013933
Now you've heard the retard answers time for the real and genius answer that took mathematicians 1000 years to calculate:

Proportional strength of a spider
Anonymous No.150015368 >>150015799
>>150015275
Yeah, I was kinda hoping that's where it would've gone with her in RYV where she runs a clothing boutique.
Would've been something fun to explore.
Anonymous No.150015685 >>150015865
Spider-bros! Just push really hard for Miles to come out as gay. It, saved my guy Aquaman from being replaced.
Anonymous No.150015770
>>150014590
>everything but main comics
Kind of hate that that's the norm. Even noir who was resurrected is with MJ instead of Felicia now. Only other time was marvel adventures with chat and that's because MJ wasn't a character in it.
Anonymous No.150015799
>>150015368
Well at least Mayday had something like that in her series. I need to read it but I just saw an image of such a thing existing. Don't know how much it matters. But I'd definitely buy some merch of Mayday or that bimbo space version that Jimmy made in that one issue.
Also holy fuck how has Peter not hired or asked Daredevil for help in getting Spider-Man some money from merch made from his costume? Seems like a great storyline. Peter acts as Spider-Man while somebody else uses Chameleon tech to look like Peter and they both appear with Matt in court to argue for a way in which Spider-Man can profit from his trademark or likeness. Matt arguing against a bunch of shops or companies that have gotten away with marketing superheroes.
I dunno the actual legality of a masked hero like Spider-Man would work to protect their masked persona but I put this in the google A.I. and this what it said:
Right of publicity

This is the right to control the commercial use of your name, likeness, or other aspects of your identity. While it is most often associated with celebrities, everyone has a right to prevent their identity from being used without permission to sell products or services.

Applying it to a masked identity: For a masked person to sue under this right, their disguised persona must be a recognizable and marketable identity. The person would have to prove that their specific masked character was exploited for commercial gain without their consent.

The suit's focus: The lawsuit would protect the persona itself, not the hidden individual behind it. The plaintiff would be suing to protect the economic value of their public-facing, masked identity.

So yeah I dunno if that is right. But MJ should alongside Peter and Matt argue for superheroes to retain their personas to use for commercial gain. But nah we gotta have Peter constantly destitute.
Anonymous No.150015865 >>150015965
>>150015685
Gay Aqualad was ever seriously considered for replacing Aquaman?
Anonymous No.150015965
>>150015865
No, but Aqualad appeared at the end of Brightest Day and right before the start of the New52, which is the era when Aquaman got his second revival at the hands of Geoff Johns and carries all the way to Rebirth and the movie.
Anonymous No.150016065 >>150016120 >>150016179 >>150025926
>>150014016
shit like this really pisses me really of
Spiderman is incredible strong and could easily deafeat his entire rogues gallery if he wasnt holding back so much but he always holds back and gets beaten to almost death on the regular
I get why he doesnt go all out on regular street muggers but against people like the Kingpin or Tombstone what possible reason does he have of holding back?
Kingpin is one of the worst characters in the series he killed countless people and is involved in the worst kind of crimes from sex traficking to assassinations and New Yorks is so corrupt that he is basically untouchable by the law
ffs he almost killed mary jane and put his Aunt in a coma there really is no justifable reason to not just execute him and get
Same goes for Tombstone he is evey bit as horrible as the Kingpin in his debut he killed countless people broke MjΒ΄s arm and terrorised that reporter guy for ages
Anonymous No.150016120 >>150016179
>>150016065
What triggers me in every Doc Ock fight is that Spider-man ever needs more than a single punch to win. Otto is just a normal nerd with powerful metal arms, and Spider-man on hit KO'ed the guy in his first appearance.
Anonymous No.150016152 >>150016187 >>150016313 >>150017102 >>150017126 >>150021093 >>150025241
>>150013933
One of the older comics puts a bunch of Marvel heroes in tiers in terms of strength and it directly contradicts OP's image >>150013492 (OP)
saying that "only Thor, The Hulk and The Thing" are stronger.
Anonymous No.150016179
>>150016065
Going full Shonen would fix that. The villains would get buffed to match Spidey, and muggers would become a joke because who cares? We're here to see awesome fights.
>>150016120
>Otto is just a normal nerd with powerful metal arms
Having him replicate how Spidey got his powers would've fixed that. Like Reverse Flash.
Anonymous No.150016187 >>150017126
>>150016152
Anonymous No.150016313
>>150016152
Yo wtf? Silver Surfer, GR, and Colossus should definitely go in the tier above at least. Spidey can stay where he is but he is definitely the strongest or as strong as Goliath or whoever the black giant is, going by this tierlist alone.
Anonymous No.150017013
No, now that every hero does the spiderman quip he's boring.
Anonymous No.150017085
>>150013492 (OP)
Well he is Mr /co/lympus.
Anonymous No.150017102
>>150016152
She Hulk and Silver Surfer should at least be Heavyweights. Hell, Surfer should probably be in Super Heavyweights since he wields the Power Cosmic.
Anonymous No.150017126
>>150016152
>>150016187
Duh. It’s older because even they realised β€œthis is self insert bullshit” and conceded to correct it that insect proportionate man is definitely NOT stronger than the guy in a walking jetplane suit and the herald of a god
Anonymous No.150017221
>>150013981
Yes anon, there are pages that are so bad that everyone in the storytime notices, then they save that page so they can share it because it's that shit. Here's a couple from ASM, just for you
Anonymous No.150017305 >>150017795
>>150014476
His exercise is swinging his body weight around on webs every single day. The man does not have time to actually do targeted workouts
Anonymous No.150017795 >>150017911
>>150017305
Truly. If a person had a job/hobby that involved sprinting, jump, climbing, swinging, and fighting' they would be jacked
Anonymous No.150017848
I can not speak for /co/ but I have slid into deep disinterest in the character.
Anonymous No.150017883
Yeah I still like Spider-Man. Fluctuating story doesn't impact the cultural phenomenon. Also regrettably.....I preordered the Magic The Gathering Spidey booster packs just to see what I'll get. I don't even play or collect Magic!
Anonymous No.150017911 >>150018029
>>150017795
Not necessarily. There are loads of videos you can find of rock climbers keeping pace with weight lifters in strength training and they’re half the size
Anonymous No.150018029 >>150018853
>>150017911
How is it possible for some to be smaller but stronger
Anonymous No.150018052 >>150018209
>>150013736
>Marvel editorial have been doing to him for nearly 20 years
>20 years
they've been trying to do Spider-Boy since like 1994
Anonymous No.150018209 >>150033784
>>150018052
>they've been trying to do Spider-Boy since like 1994
I never had a problem with Ben Reilly replacing Peter as Spider-Man, once again it was editorial bullshit that got in the way of a decent idea. Making it clear that Peter WAS the clone and that Ben was the ORIGINAL was retarded, it could've easily just been "Thanks for taking over the Spider-Man gig, Ben. I'm going to retire with my smoking hot wife and have some kids now that the responsibility of being Spider-Man is off my shoulders." But that would've been too easy for Marvel (I actually kind of liked Sensational Spider-Man at the time).
Anonymous No.150018768
>>150013492 (OP)
Of course, he's such a friendly neighbor.
Anonymous No.150018853
>>150018029
Practical muscles VS aesthetic
Anonymous No.150018960
I like spiderman :))
Anonymous No.150020283
spoderman
Anonymous No.150021093
>>150016152
Anon...OP's image is from a time when that is all there was. Hell the fucking Ditko art should have told you that.
Anonymous No.150021173 >>150025006
>>150013492 (OP)
No. Because it's a vastly different character from the one I grew up with.

I'm loyal to good writing, not IPs (that's more of a DC thing).
Anonymous No.150021203
>>150013492 (OP)
Not the modern shit, but I still read and enjoy classic Spidey.
Anonymous No.150021239
?????????????
Anonymous No.150022361
>>150013492 (OP)
Yes, Spider-Man is cool.
Cucked Editorial-Man can suck my dick, though.
Anonymous No.150023707
>>150013492 (OP)
Back when Hulk and the Thing were midgets and comics didn't have any bodybuilders obsessions.
Anonymous No.150023952
>>150013862
this
Anonymous No.150025006 >>150025439 >>150025963 >>150026144
>>150021173
>I'm loyal to good writing, not IPs (that's more of a DC thing).
TBF I think DC has earned that trust more than Marvel, they rarely character assassinate their flagship characters for no good reason for decades on end.
Anonymous No.150025241
>>150016152
this image is essential
Anonymous No.150025439
>>150025006
If Spiderman were on DC, Peter would save the multiverse every weekend and there would be at least one team up comic with Superman and Batman.
Anonymous No.150025889
>>150013492 (OP)
We like the character. We dislike the misery porn that Marvel has put him in for decades.
Anonymous No.150025926
>>150016065
>could easily deafeat his entire rogues gallery if he wasnt holding back
He has some ennemies that are stronger than him. Symbiotes and Rhino for sure. Maybe Sandman and Hydroman.
Anonymous No.150025963
>>150025006
>they rarely character assassinate their flagship characters for no good
It's the exact opposite, which is equally stupid.
Batwank and Superman being the center of DC are prime exemple.
Anonymous No.150026144
>>150025006
Clearly you never read The Trial of Barry Allen.
Anonymous No.150026217 >>150026644
It really sucks that Civil War was used as a precipice for OMD.
And the turd is almost 20 years old.
Had Miles been created earlier before that clusterfuck.....
Anonymous No.150026644
>>150026217
>Civil War is 20 years old
Anonymous No.150026976 >>150029048
>>150013573
>I's be Spider-Man too
Miles would be more likable if he was your stereotypical hoodrat.
Anonymous No.150027372
>>150013492 (OP)
Only liked Spiderman and didn't care for most other Marvel characters, as I got older the reverse slowly happened for some reason
Anonymous No.150027649 >>150028892
>>150013492 (OP)
i like him for nostalgia
Anonymous No.150027663 >>150027837
>>150013492 (OP)
>proportional strength of spider
Are spiders really that strong, pound for pound?
Anonymous No.150027837 >>150030582
>>150027663
It's less about their biology and more to do with them being small. Smaller animals will have an easier time picking up heavy objects relative to their own weight. So for example if you were to enlarge an ant like in pic-related to human size it wouldn't be able to go around lifting boulders up like it's nothing. There's like a whole science behind it.

Size governs a lot of what a body can do. For example a housecat can easily survive a fall off a tall building, but I doubt if you threw a giant tiger off that it would fair so well.
Anonymous No.150028892
>>150027649
We all are.
Anonymous No.150029048 >>150031607
>>150026976
Yeah honestly the gayest thing about him is how inoffensive he acts. I went to a nearly all-black high school and I have never met a black guy who acts like him.
Anonymous No.150029108
>>150013981
no that's legit tarantino levels of jerking off blacks cringe as shit.
Anonymous No.150029399
>>150013981
No
Anonymous No.150030582
>>150027837
Yeah, but comic science.
Anonymous No.150031607
>>150029048
That's probably why John Stewart and Sergeant Johnson from Halo is well received. Both of them act like your stereotypical black Sergeants and it's revealed that there's more than the hoo rah underneath.
Anonymous No.150032963
Random thought but do you think that new Mephisto plot being set up in Bring on The Bad Guys is linked to the events we saw foretold in Spencer's Amazing Spider-Man run?
Anonymous No.150033784
>>150018209
its more to do with the fact that they finally got Mary Jane pregnant, let Aunt May die of old age, only to completely reset things to square one. 5 years later John Byrne would kill MJ and try to have him be a 26 year old again.
They've done the OMD/BND thing multiple times