Thread 150024384

Should Gohan dust Mark for his debut episode?

BEAST!!!

>Shithan

After his Flop of a movie?

OH NO!
HE'S NOT GONNA GO
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>>150024384 (OP)
SUN DISKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

Soon.....

>>150024384 (OP)
This was more bullshit then Kratos v Asura. Yet they gave Asurafags a pity alt ending win.

If they'd done alt wins from day one, nobody would shit on Asura for having one but here we are. Why fucking give him the alt win? You clearly think Asura beats Kratos right? So why?

Also Bardock stomps Nolan, that sun disk calc is such bullshit. Its nowhere as big or as impressive as they wank it to be. Every fucking debunk video goes hard on that stupid calc.

>>150024405
>You WILL fuck Bulma, Nolan!

Godzilla sisters I'm scared. The closer we get to the battle the more and more I realize how little of a chance we actually had and how inevitable a Hulk victory is
Can someone please DM me on the GodzillaDeathBattle Discord before I have a panic attack? My name is TransRightsAlly12 and I'm one of the mods if you need to find me

>>150024438
>You think you'd fly away, and not fuck Bulma?!

RECAP
>Ben hyped up Ultima and wanted it in
>World Breaker Hulk coming out early
>animation was delayed because they're doing something complicated that hasn't been done before
>Ben wants to gush about how complicated and nuts the episode is with a dedicated DBC
>Swan wants Godzilla to win, so he's getting swanked to highest degree possible
>Ben's "HULK THINKS MAYBE THIS WAS BAD IDEA" tweet
>The guest researchers are all Godzilla fans
>Nemesis Bloodryche has repeatedly said Godzilla would win
>Kirbonic "Funded Otoko's translation out of his own pocket" Pikmin is involved
>No Bruce Banner VA listed
>Ben (Godzilla rep) is the writer

>JOBquest
>WEAKltrumites
Enter GODly.

>>150024434
>Clark....I just wanted you...to kiss....my....wife...

>>150024459
>I hope Beerus fucks Cheelai

>>150024459
Mental visualization

>>150024468
>Mark....you need....fuck Puar....I can't anymore.....

https://mediamaniavsblogs.blogspot.com/2025/08/hulk-vs-godzilla.html
Basically for Hulk to win they'd have to give Bruce Banner all his tech and if Death Battle agrees with how they translated how Jet Jaguar defeated Ultima in the novel

>>150024384 (OP)
POST GOHAN BLOWING UP A PLANETTTTTTT! WHAT THE FUCK IS POWER SCALING?!!! I NEED FEAAAAAAAATSSSSSSS

>>150024507
This, but unironically

>>150024516
...into wanting Chi-Chi's lips to be kissed

>>150024516
True.

>>150024507
GOHAN IS OBVIOUSLY SUB DRAGON BALL ROSHI LEVEL! HE NEVER BLEW UP A MOON!

Just watched Hulkzilla, here's the leaked ending:
>this plays: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o-dUgFg1BiI&pp=ygUMRmlnaHQgYXMgb25l
>Hulk is defeated and gets killed
>As he reverts to Banner, he just smiles at Ultima
>"You may have won against me...but you won't against THEM!"
>He presses a small device as he passes away, with Ultima looking on in confusion as multiple portals open up
>Every single fictional character along with those who've been in Death Battle appear as well as future fighters
>Goku: "So this is that Godzilla guy I've been hearin about. He's sounds like he's strong."
>Sonic: "Not stronger than us! We'll show him what we're made of!"
>Mario: "WAHOO!"
>Superman: "You reign of terror ends here monster!"
>Simon: "Just who the hell do you think we are?"
>Batman: "I am vengeance. I am the night."
>Iron Man: "I am Iron Man."
>All Might: "I am here!"
>Popeye: "And I yam what I yam!"
>Saitama: "Did I miss the sale? Wait, what time is it?"
>Yugi: "It's time to duel!"
>Ben: "It's hero time!"
>Hal: "Time huh? Thanks for the tip."
>Galactus: "Galactus hungers!"
>Alex: "Well welcome to the top of the food chain, big guy."
>Kirby: "Poyo!"
>Maka: "Never thought I'd fight side by side with a huntress."
>Ruby: "How about side by side with a friend?"
>Maka just smirks: "I guess I can do that..."
>Makima: "This looks unwinnable."
>Gojo: "Nah I'd win."
>Yamcha: "Heh, I guess this is gonna be a ...Death Battle."
>Black Adam just does the Rock eyebrow raise at Yamcha.
>Gohan: "This is going to be tough."
>Bane: "It will be extremely painful."
>Mark smiles at him: "I thought you were stronger."
Gohan: "You retard..."
>Mikey: "I'm right here!"
>Suddenly, Kratos appears in front riding Gamera with Asura by his side as he brings out the Blades of Chaos
>"Composite fiction....ASSEMBLE."
>Everybody screams as they charge at Ultima
>Ultima smirks as he lets out a roar and charges at the army
>Just as Kratos jumps up to attack and meet Godzilla head on...it goes black
K.O.

DOC BRUCE BANNER
BELTED BY JOBBER RAYS
TURNS INTO THE HULK
AT LEAST HE'S NOT GAMERAYS
LOSES HIS FIGHT
ALL ARGUMENTS ARE NULL
AIN'T NO MONSTER CLOWN
WHO IS A PITABLE
AS 0-3 HULK
HULK

I just can't take all the loaded statements of 500000000x more powerful than moon level roshi when they can't lift more than 50 tons and get hurt by ice.
The stats ain't statting

>>150024561
>Buu Gohan

Fight where Gohan fumbled.

>>150024563
HOLY FVCKING KINO...

>>150024576
Marks got killed by a yo-yo.

>>150024551
>No metal door busting feats?

>>150024438
>Cucky saiyan manhandling a VILTRVMITE
KEKAROOOOOOOO!

>>150024394
Post Gohan fighting in the sun

>>150024483
Yamcha wouldn’t fuck Puar, he can’t have babies for him to abort.

You can choose one Image comic series to become popular among power scalers/vs debaters for a chance for it to be repped in Death Battle
I'm talking Invincible levels of interest
Which one do you go with?

>>150024594
>editing 20 tons on the weights
>gigacharged AU Superman
>HBOC behind DC
KWAB!!!

>>150024483
>thinking Mark could fight Cell Saga Yamcha
lol.
The Yamcha that Android 20 mistook for Goku?

>>150024594
The 40 tons feat is funny because, using Z-tards own scaling logic, saiyan saga Vegeta and Nappa would be hundreds of times weaker than that Goku. So people saying Omni-Man couldn't clear them are absolutely deluded.

>>150024611
Not hiding behind anybody BITCHyain. Your hero couldn't outlift Spiderman!

https://youtu.be/aYMzfXqeh-s?t=171

>>150024607
Spawn.
>B-B-But he’a already popular!
Doesn’t matter, Spawn needs to be on Death Battle more.

>name is Steve Jobs
>died
KWAB!

>>150024634
Your hero jobbed to a yo-yo.

Zillabros, no matter what happens... it was fun.
I don't want Hulk to go 0-3, but it seems like the likely outcome here. I'm scared, and he's never going to live this down, but there's not much one can do about it. All I can hope for is a good fight, and Godzilla isn't such a bad series to go 3-0.

>>150024384 (OP)
Mark faster and stronger

>>150024563
Too kino for HACKth Battle

>>150024642
>Weakling alternate Mark
Nope! Your hero squealed in agony from an elephant and some ice though. And got thrown around by a subway train.

>>150024384 (OP)
The Dragon Ball slander has gone on long enough.

Godzilla Ultima lost to THIS?!

9 hours left
https://strawpoll.com/mpnb1vqaLy5

>>150024458
It actually does seem like a stomp from that angle

It shall go on forever.

>>150024658
>i-i-it doesn't count
>using filler for anti-feats good
>using filler for feats bad
KWAB!!! SHITvincible fags are funny.

>>150024652
Lol no

Enough. Dragon Ball is a jobber verse meant to job to cooler verses. It’s the natural order of things.

>>150024658
>>150024642
ENTER MADCHAD

>>150024563
Godzilla would rape the entire God of War verse doebeit

>>150024384 (OP)
DAMN. What DURABILITY.. has Gohan ever been punched like this?

NINE HOURS UNTIL THE ASS VOID IS CLOSED FOR GOOD

>>150024671
>Literally said that a lot of the Marks are trash tier compared to OUR Mark
>Z-spic desperately backpedals on filler after constantly using the king vegeta filler gif

Sad! Stick to ki blasts and don't humiliate yourself with fanfictopm of your monkeys grappling with characters thousands of times stronger than them.

>contains you're favorite character
Nothin' personnel kid

>>150024673
In powerscaling culture it was like making the autistic kid feel like the coolest kid in school and then it went to his head.

I get off work one hour before the episode.
Perfect. Just in time to see my hero win.

>>150024685
Not once in his LIFE.

BRING ME EVERY UNDERAGE CHARACTER IN FICTION!

>>150024695
>needing Space Racer
>3 viltrumites
>perfect timing needed
KWAB!!! Bejita did that with a finger in the Saiyan saga.

>>150024697
ASS VOID

>>150024685
Gohan is tougher than his dad

>>150024709
>...b-but please don't ask me to use it in a fight, if the planet pops I will die like a fuarking bitch even in SSB...

>>150024384 (OP)
Mark wouldn't even be able to beat Teen Gohan that fought Cell. Current DBS Gohan? He wouldn't even feel his own death.

>mark
>was outsmarted by a nigger
>gohan
>has not been outsmarted by a nigger
The winner seems really obvious to me

>>150024732
Kek.

>>150024715
Goku fell over like a bitch here right after, btw. Mark kept FIGHTING with a hole in his torso and WON.

>>150024685
If Mark gets his hands on Gohan’s throat and starts suffocating him. Is there anything Gohan can do to stop him?

This has been the worst waiting period bar none.

Yeah she solos.

>>150024732
>Gohan
>Has fumbled almost every fight he has ever been in
>Mark
>Wins his fights

Badaboom.

>jobbing to house level beams
Not like this......

>>150024743
Not worse than Kratos vs Asura

>>150024735
Wake up to reality

I love Ash, I kiss him every night.

>>150024758
>Foe dead
Yup yup, that's a win. Easily healed from by a Viltrumite GOD, btw.

>>150024743
No, that's still Simon vs Kyle.

>>150024763
Get away from that little boy, Hal Jordan!

>>150024763
We know Serena

>>150024737
Unless Gohan has more strength than Mark he won’t be able to break Mark’s grip.

>>150024748
That beam would have disintegrated Goku, btw. She was attempting to use her ATOM MANIPULATION to erase him from existence but the SMART ATOMS resisted.

>>150024766
>easily
>needed to be taken care of by his father and brother
KEKYPOOPY!!!

>>150024594
>cucky
Good morning, Raj.

>>150024775
>[HEADCANON]
YUP!!!

>Ben 10 vs Green Lantern
>Omni-Man vs Bardock
>Simon vs Kyle
>Kratos vs Asura
>Wally West vs Archie Sonic
>Hercules vs Sun Wukong
>Naruto vs Ichigo
>Hulk vs Godzilla
>Ash vs Yugi
>Goku vs Superman 1
All happen back to back
3 weeks apart
Could these threads survive

>>150024763
Misty, May, Dawn, Iris, Serena, Bonnie, Lillie, Mallow, Lana, Chloe, Risa...

>>150024776
>L-LOOK HE RECOVERED FROM GETTING HIS GUTS RIPPED OUT WITH NO MEDICAL TOOLS AFTER WINNING HIS FIGHT! INVINCITARDS O-OWNED!

>Goku's bitch ass needed to sit in a healing pod for hours after a mild beating with no open wounds while his friends got their asses beat

You are so DESPERATE, Paco.

>>150024384 (OP)
As the xianxia fag, if the thread gets /trashed/ because godzilla and/or hulk fags (let us be honest, it is probably going to be hulk fags), threw a tantrum that reached a singular point of autism, then it was kind of a good run
Pd: it is a joke, no offense mate

>>150024776
so what? the fact he pulled through with some bedrest is nuts

Mark would EVISCERATE Gohan in a single punch, and I am not fucking joking.

>>150024813
Y-You're not? You're not joking? ONE punch???

>>150024798
>needs to wait like a bitch
>CHADku just takes a GODenzu bean
Yup.

What’s Gohan’s greatest Durability feat?

>>150024563
>Gohan: "You retard..."
GOD MY CHEST

ZAMN! GOHAN got better equipment too

Should Ash get Latias? Considering that she wants to FUCK him and has been stalking him from the background ever since her movie?

>>150024826
U-Uh...he took a ki blast one time...which didn't really look any different from ki blasts five arcs ago..BUT IT WAS A BILLION TIMES STRONGER I SWEAR!!

>>150024836
Non-Mewtwo movies aren't canon

>>150024607
Spawn. He is my nigga.

YUPPAROOOOOO!!!

>>150024841
This movie is canon though

>>150024384 (OP)
I didn't mean to kill Saiyaman in one punch... I thought he was tougher... All the Mexicans I talked to told me he was multiversal...

No omnipotent power?

SHUT THE FUCK UP THEN.

>>150024841
The Latias movie is canon due to the last anime of Ash

>>150024845
...No Spawn scaling?

>>150024384 (OP)
This is why Death Battle is despised btw. They got motherfuckers thinking barely planet level (debatable) Invincible can fight Gohan.

Wasn't Mark raped and cucked? Meanwhile, my HERO Gohan is in a loving monogamous relationship with his wife.

>>150024836
>Ash wants to fuck his monsters

Couldn't be Yugi/Atem CHAD

CHADku won!

>>150024853
>>150024861
>it's legit
huh

>>150024873
I fucked Videl in elementary school
Otto btw

>>150024875
Doesn't he have a crush on Dark Magician Girl or something?

>>150024892
Nigga that's Cyrus from GX, Yugi never had any inclination to fucking his monsters, Atem as well as.

>>150024384 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=GwtS5RCu1ro

>>150024826
He survived a Saiyan orgy

>>150024813
No lies detected. Z-tards need to understand the STAT GAP between saiyans and Viltrumites when it comes to strength, durability, and speed...

>>150024384 (OP)
Superman beats Goku. FACT!
Invincible beats Superman. FACT!
You do the math.

>>150024836
>Ash is a monster fucker
What a BASED chad. He should fight a fellow monster fucker like Seto Kaiba instead

>>150024910
I-I just did it.... invincible wins....

So if Hulk loses we do we take the substitute blog as a loss for G1's track record regardless?

>>150024922
Kaiba fucked Ishizu though....

>weaker version of Gas literally flew across the entire infinite universe in 20 minutes
>CHADhan is stronger
BEAST!!!

>>150024906
Will they ever learn? They've been ruthlessly debunked thread after thread, and they still have no refutes, no defense, nothing

Reminder, only weird fat ugly KEKS like Invincible. Especially the double downing contrarian guy

Holy shit...!

Jesus Christ, I know at least two or three threads got nuked too, but just in the Archive we have 15 Death Battle threads.

>>150024953
Godzilla is such a cute sissy...

YUP YUP!!

Post HEROES who can destroy a mountain. No statements. No scaling. Just feats.

>>150024969
https://youtu.be/tLMuo9B5q7A?t=238

BOOM! Done. Quick and easy.

>IT'S JUST A LITTLE MORE RESEARCHERS IT'S STILL GOOD IT'S STILL GOOD
>It's 0-3
>I know...

Why is John Constantine like this?

>>150024969
>JOBuntain
Watch this

>>150024991
I can literally hold the moon between my fingertips right now

>>150024991
https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Explosive_Demon_Wave_Illusion

Uhhh, about that...

>>150024998
GODlactus...

Hulk doesn't deserve to be the first character to go 0-3 against three different opponents

>>150024969
Gohan is stronger

>>150025001
>origin
>DBZ Kakarot
KWABOOTY!!! Nice try.

>>150024991
>>150025011
These explosions blew up the entirety of the Invincible multiverse

>>150025013
Toriyama personally approved all of the story additions and retcons in DBZ Kakarot. I'm sorry...

>>150024969
Ez

>>150025021
He didn't tho.

>>150025011
Ehh that's more of a hill than a mountain honestly.

>>150025001
The game was made by lolicon furries with piss fetishes. Cybergames2, fuga melody of steel.

>>150025007
It's funny cause WAAAAAAAAAAAAY back Ben opened the polls between who people wanted Hulk to fight
Doomsday, Broly, or Godzilla
Broly was winning the poll until the BvS trailer dropped with Doomsday causing a surge of interest
Would Season 3 Death Battle allow Hulk to beat a DBZ era Broly?
Would Season 3 Death Battle give the win for Hulk over Godzilla?

>>150025026
Denial bro...

>>150025021
It do be like dat.

What if they got James Rolfe as a guest researcher like they did with Godzilla vs Gamera?

>never lost a fight
>never died
>never had to be wished back
>never had to fuse to beat an enemy
>never taken any real damage
>never fought seriously
>confirmed to be able to grow stronger than anyone he's fighting
>confirmed toon force
>confirmed stronger than your heroes

>>150025035
I wonder if Hulk vs Asura was something in the cards, since we know that the Season 6 finale was originally supposed to be an Asura match

>>150025063
You mean plagerize and blame on a fall guy?

>>150025064
Mosquito victim

>>150025042
>>150025037
>it means that CHADku gets his IT time-stop dimension
GODku solos Invincible.

>>150025064
Don't forget the top 1 sexiest girl as his love interest

>>150024515
Add Nikocado Avacado to this picture.

Before it all ends I'll say this once more
>Every Hulk parody vs Every Godzilla parody
>Every human organization meant to take down the Hulk vs every human organization meant to take down Godzilla

>>150025101
If she had a bigger ass she would be sexy.

>>150025063
Back when they did research for Godzilla vs Gamera, they actually borrowed James Rolfes' film collection for research.

>>150025082
What episode was this?

I've been thinking, was Darth Vader vs Doctor Doom ever actually debatable at some point?

>>150025137
Vader would rape Doom if Vader also had the comic version

>>150025149
LMAO!!!

>>150025137
Vader couldn't even beat the Daicon girl

>>150025137
Back then I don't remember Doom's overpoweredness being as mainstream of a thing (likely due to his depictions in media at the time). Being in the DB community though it was seen as a pretty clear stomp.

>>150024458
Just looked into some points here

…and they seriously have like ten “guest” researchers for this episode? How do they mean?

>that blog with a bunch of g1 members on it
>Goji’s only hope is for a tie
Gojishitters… I’m thinkin’ we’re gonna get SMASHED…

>>150025157
I'm kind of curious when was the exact moment Doom got power crept hard because those early issues emphasize him more as a schemer

>Omni-Man splatters his hand just hitting this guy

What is this BEAST...?!

>>150025164
>>that blog with a bunch of g1 members on it
Like who?
Goji's big hope is if they don't consider Banner as a factor and especially not his tech since his Starship Hulk stuff gives him a means to reach Ultima directly
That and how they interpret the novelization's description on how Jet Jaguar defeated Ultima

>>150024384 (OP)
No, Gohan should just fucking job because he is ontologically failure-coded and has enough anti-feats to invalidate any conceivable scaling argument. Gohan is a fucking embarrassment who should just off himself at the start of the fight to save everyone the trouble.

YOU REALLY THINK AFTER ANIME DEKU AND ANIME SIMON WON RECENTLY, THEY'RE NOT GONNA EVEN THINGS OUT WITH A COMIC BOOK CHARACTER WINNING?

Does the blog's logic on how Ultima was defeated means Ultraman can beat even Godzilla Ultima/IT?

>>150025182
Why did Toriyama hate Gohan that much?

>>150025188
Yes, yes, Death Battle cares about quaint notions like "fairness" and "parity" and "your feelings", that's why Goku vs Superman eventually resulted in a pity win...oh wait.

Anyway, Gohan still fucking jobs because he's incapable of doing anything else.

>>150025195
He was meant to replace Goku outright but fans complained

Hulk will win because he's the only Marvel Superhero that has never been cuckolded

>>150025169
I wanna say the 80s

>>150025173
Wouldn’t this feat make Thragg INVINCIBLE to any physicall attacks from Dragon Ball characters?

>>150025195
It's not just Toriyama, Gohan just kind of attracts a much more intense version of cute aggression. Everyone who writes this nigga except blacks/Mexicans who self-insert into him spontaneously gets the urge to bully him.

>>150025198
Dragonball received more pity wins that any other anime franchise on Death Battle. You really think Death Battle is gonna make comic book characters lose against anime characters 3 times in a row?

>>150025201
>Hulk will (spontaneously manifest in Gohan's episode and beat his balding ass into the ground)
Yup, sounds about right.

>>150025211
It's Spider-Man editorial logic
They want to remove his happiness because they think it'd "fix him"

>>150025212
SPECIFICALLY because they're using fucking Gohan, the biggest fattest L-catcher in anime himself? Fuck yes, the humiliation rituals will continue until morale improves.

>>150025201
That is outright a lie and you know it. Hulk's best feat moment came from the same comic where he got KEKED. (HEART OF THE MONSTER)

HULK TANK EVERYTHING

>>150025178
Didn’t GOD CHADguar literally kill Ultima with a fucking spear?

What's the worst assbeating Mark has TANKED as a child?

>>150025246
Jej the best part they end that arc driving off together like Betty didn't get ROMAN'D and Bruce didn't just get dateraped by Umar.

>>150025252
It's....more complicated than that
The blog went into detail saying Jet Jaguar was able to force IT out of Ultima's body according to the novel but apparently someone in the last thread said the anime does it differently

>>150025252
No, Jet Jaguar explicitly lost the fight - he only 'won' because when Ultima lasered him into oblivion, it triggered the 13th phase of the Archetype and banished it out of the universe. Becoming a Singular Point only made it possible for JJ PP to fight back somewhat, but Ultima was dominating the whole encounter still.

>>150025001
It is actually even more impressive this way. The illusion not only lasts long enough to eclipse the entire training period, but also continues to stay in place after Piccolo died.
And it isn't just an illusion but one that doesn't emit ki and completely blocks the physical properties of the moon in terms of its reflectivity for the sake of Blutz Waves.

>>150025201
Other people got there before me, but I have no fucking idea why you had the audacity to claim this after how infamous THAT little fling Betty decided to have was.

>>150025223
Reminder, Chi-Chi is a horrible mother and everything Goku said and planned Gohan is right.

>>150025211
Can anyone defeat Dragon Ball Multiverse's Broly? He gets erased from existence multiple times, but he keeps coming back stronger and stronger.

>>150025199
actually toriyama just didn't know how to give protagonism to gohan so he bringback goku

>>150025199
>the rumor nobody ever cited ever even after decades

>>150025293
The CHAD Zeno could. Probably. Zamasu basically regenerated from fucking nothing after being cleaved with Trunks' spirit sword and spilled over between multiple universes like great value Giygas, and then Zeno just popped him like a soap bubble along with the whole timeline.

>>150025286
Yep YEP, Goku can and SHOULD have beat Gohan more as a child to toughen him up for the battles to come. If Chi-Chi hadn't smothered Gohan, he would've been powerful enough to fight off the Androids instead of JOBBING TO OPPONENTS HE SHOULDVE FODDERISED WITH HIS SO-CALLED ULTIMATE FORM THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE BECAUSE GOHAN CAN'T FUCKING DO ANYTHING RIGHT EVER

>>150025286
>>150025308
he was born to be a jobber.
he never wanted to fight or had any fighting spirit in the first place

>>150025308
Nah, Goku didn't beat Gohan unlike BITCHchi who hired a abuser tutor. If Gohan wasn't naturally stronger than the SAVIOR OF EARTH and God (Kami) himself, 4 year old Gohan would have BAD scars for life

Luffy won.

>>150025316
SOVL.

>>150025308
Maybe I am being overly generous in this regard, but the semi-canonical manga basically has Broly survive the erasure of the entire universe, so he could be above Zeno's power.

There’s a reason why Gohan never gave a fuck about SHIT-SHIT and instead always wanted to hang out with GODku and his friends. Toriyama made a subtle example of how toxic feminism ruins young men.

>>150025316
To be fair to Chi-Chi, she didn't know and the second she found out she beat the shit out of the tutor.

>>150025320
Won what?

Dragon Ball filler was NEVER good and Kai is better in EVERY way.

>>150025295
*actually Toriyama rightfully realised Gohan's a fucking loser who didn't deserve any more screentime and damned him to being Frieza's prison bitch, going Super Saiyan JUST to scream for daddy, and getting penetrated by Frieza just to take out a jobber rabbit nobody who mattered cared about

>>150025314
Gohan literally has less fighting spirit than fucking MARK, the emasculated eunuch of his species and the literal Gohan of the Invincible universe. MARK of all people adapts quicker to a wartime mentality despite being raped by Anissa just like Gohan was metaphorically violated by Spopovich and LITERALLY vored by Buu.

>>150025326
PERHAPS if they someday make Ultimate Godslayer Hearts canon, we'll finally know what Zeno's limits are.

>If you were to watch the anime, you’d come off only with the information that the miracle solution involved some way of manipulating Archetype molecules using the Orthogonal Diagonalizer, but the novelization makes the solution explicitly clear: The calculation is what allowed Jet Jaguar PP to grow to giant size and gain the strength to damage the singularity. After JJPP’s sacrifice, the anchors between the singularity were damaged which ejected Ultima and the Singular Points from reality and the Archetype molecules to become inert and start decomposing. To quote the novel directly:
>“One way, and the one I most wished to avoid, would have been to create a new “machine assembled from archetypes” from the thick red dust surrounding Gojira, using the orthogonal diagonalizer in Arikawa Yun’s hands.
>Where in the world did that parameter come from?
>The parameters were folded into the “song”. Pelops 2, realizing the impossibility of annihilating the archetype, attempted to defeat Gojira by “strengthening” JJ.
>In other words, the plan was to decide the battle not by superchemical means, but by blows, which is somewhat out of my style. However, if I could beat the singularity, there is no doubt that my workload would be reduced, and I would have the chance to destroy the singularity myself.”
>However this was much easier said than done. Due to Ultima’s insane probability manipulation, hundreds of millions of possible solutions were nullified at once and Jet Jaguar PP only managed to achieve victory through having the opposite ability to connect and reattach possibilities. It also goes without saying that the Omega Point wouldn’t have this weakness since it grows into and past our universe. But if the fight were to start with Goji in a pre-Omega Point form, technically all you really need to do is…HIT HIM REALLY HARD!
..it makes you big
Unless they fucked up the translation the equation just makes you really big and really strong
What the fuck

>>150025334
After being whipped til blood.

https://youtu.be/miBaRRHOomA?t=1m42s

>>150025349
Okay but
if all it did was make JJ big
What the FUCK was up with all those crystals exploding everywhere at the end? Why does punching Godzilla out of reality make crystals sprout everywhere? How does nerd shit let you out-calculate what is for all intents and purposes an otherworldly god and use it's essence to build yourself into a robot that can hit it really hard?

Someone on the Subreddit just debunked the "Just punch him hard" claim

It's over
Ultima is gonna win in less than 8 hours

>>150025349
>Unless they fucked up the translation the equation just makes you really big and really strong
The novelization point-blank tells us that Pelops becomes one with the singularity and this is what eventually leads to Jet Jaguar PP coming about. JJ PP is a Singular Point, the exact same as Godzilla, and is indestructible to anything that isn't another Singular Point. We are also told by the SAME translation they did that Jet Jaguar had all its solutions to Ultima nullified and he himself isn't even aware of how he defeated Ultima at the end anyway, whether it was by using one solution, all of them at once, none of them, or if it was just an impossible miracle all along.

They basically contradict themselves multiple times in the same blog and then insist on their own headcanon over what the text tells them.

>>150025360
Man, Toriyama HATED Torishima

>>150025382
Lmao, so in the final analysis even the writers couldn't think of a way to beat Ultima other than "Jet Jaguar just FUARKING WINS, okay?!"

>>150025375
>blog is just flat out wrong
Honestly, that's about the quality of "research" I've been expecting these days.

>>150025349
Woah, you mean zillatards were lying the entire time about an untranslated Japanese novel? Completely unprecedented!

>>150025385
This is like the prehistoric version of someone drawing someone else as the virgin and himself as the Chad

>>150025385
Funniest shit I've ever realized:

>Torishima wanted Goku x Bulma
>Toriyama at this point was super pissed at Torishima he made Goku x Chi-Chi just to spite him
>Toriyama got a laugh but then realized he had to WRITE Goku x Chi-Chi resulting in people having this general conception that Goku x Chi-Chi doesn't have a good romance

>>150025375
>Japanshit will beat American comics three times in a row

Retard. Death Battle has a pity system.

>>150025389
The novel itself basically details Pelops 2 becoming a Singular Point and becoming something 1:1 to Godzilla. And the anime tells us this outright. Both the anime and the novel more or less state that the code/song that Jet Jaguar PP became should not and cannot exist. So yes, it was basically a literal deus ex machina.

>>150025395
Guess again, they interpreted the text wrong

>>150025400
>Death Battle has a pity system
How'd that work for Batman, mmm?
How'd that work for Superman, mmmmmm?

>>150025382
This is a dumb reading, the epilogue is basically
>There's a lot of things that could have happened, based on our analysis we think the likeliest outcome was that the code and the upgraded Jet Jaguar cut off Ultima from reality, here's how we did that, but we don't know for sure, it could have been something else
I don't understand why people are so insistent that it was some out of nowhere miracle when Pelops says itself that the miracle is just a gut feeling it doesn't really have any evidence for. Do you think the entire detailed epilogue explaining step by step what happened was supposed to be pointless?

>>150025395
>>150025375

>>150025403
>So yes, it was basically a literal deus ex machina.
Anti-Life Equationbros, the anime powercrept us at being the strongest reality warping math in fiction...

>>150025410
I mean, it seems pretty goddamn nonsensical to me that fucking math can beat a world-destroying god.

>>150025412
That doesn’t debunk anything. We literally see that Jet Jaguar was able to hit Godzilla at the end and his body was used to nullify him. They’re literally right.

>>150025410
>I don't understand why people are so insistent that it was some out of nowhere miracle when Pelops says itself that the miracle is just a gut feeling it doesn't really have any evidence for.
The Pelops saying that is Pelops 3 WHO WAS NOT FUCKING THERE when Pelops 2/JJ PP became the code/Singular Point to fight Ultima, so he can only theorize. We are told in the anime that Pelops 2 had become the code itself and was thusly, something just as impossible as Ultima itself.

>>150025419
>We literally see that Jet Jaguar was able to hit Godzilla at the end
And did no damage. Whilst Ultima was fucking eviscerating him with every attack.

>and his body was used to nullify him.
No, the code inside of him (the actual Jet Jaguar PP) was. Jet Jaguar could physically do nothing against Ultima and wailing on him with his fists never causes any form of actual damage.

>>150025407
DC got lots of pity wins. Check Death Battle's win and loss history. Retard. you proved me right. They take and they give. They never let a franchise get too much wins without also being on the receiving end. It's the gayest shit ever.

No equation...?

>>150025424
>so he can only theorize
He's making an analysis the same way an actual scientific researcher would, and he begins the epilogue saying that he had the transcendental perspective and just lost it
>Based on the outcome and an analysis of the aftermath, it was most likely this, but it could have been something else too, we don't know for sure
It's not that hard. Again, do you seriously think the entire epilogue explaining what happened was supposed to be irrelevant pointless garbage with no bearing on anything?

>>150025428
So? JJ being able to hit him at all shows that they’re right. And he was still knocking around Ultima even if it didn’t do lasting damage.

This reeks of desperation. If some fodder like JJ can stagger Zilla, then he’s fucked against Hulk.

>>150025441
>He's making an analysis the same way an actual scientific researcher would,
Based off of nothing because he wasn't there and even he himself doesn't know for sure. Everything he's saying is contradicted by what Pelops 2 itself says.

>>150025366
Flying bricks is the final evolution of character archetypes. Like crabs

>>150025447
>Based off of nothing
Except seeing what happened and the resultant aftermath with the blue crystals? Nothing it says is a contradiction with Pelops 2, who is just a version of itself. Pelops 3 says Pelops 2 calculated the required parameters and transmitted them back through time, which is what Pelops 2 says in the anime about itself.
>Pero2 calculates in the Super Time Calculator the parameters to reconfigure JJ into a form that can fight Godzilla, as well as the parameters to destroy the anchor that the singularity has dropped into this world, and incorporates them into the "song."

The matchup is really boring when it all boils down to one specific thing. Like how all Ben matches are just about Alien X or how all Giorno matches are about GER. Does the rest of Godzilla even matter if the only thing anyone gave a shit about is Ultima?

>>150025442
>So? JJ being able to hit him at all shows that they’re right.
No retard. I know this is hard for you, but if you hit someone and it does literally zero damage despite you rising to their own level then this does not automatically mean that you can punch them to death if you keep hitting harder. It means that your physical blows won't do shit. Meanwhile, the same guy you're hitting rips a chunk of your face off by barely doing anything in comparison. The blogs "JUST HIT HIM REALLY HARD" shit has no basis in reality.

>>150025414
The life equations job to pythagoras triangle, fucking jobbers.

>>150025460
No, as you can see in the blog, Ultima is the only thing that can net Godzilla even a tie. Without that, he gets stomped horribly. This is why composites are stupid, because this isn’t Godzilla vs Hulk, it’s Ultima vs Hulk.

>ultima confuses even rl people on how it was even defeated
Lionel suggs meta scaling has nothing on this.

>>150025463
>JJ couldn’t hit Godzilla before
>Now he could with the equation
Idk how this is so hard for you to understand. You’re going to tear your hair out in 8 hours from now when Hulk wins, I guess.

>>150025459
>Nothing it says is a contradiction with Pelops 2, who is just a version of itself.
Pelops 2 had actually become the singularity and experienced it for itself alongside all its descendants who would go on to become Jet Jaguar PP. Pelops 3 directly contradicts what Pelops 2 itself states about having become the "song" and how Pelops 2 itself was the one who determined there was no solution other than to become a Singular Point to face Godzilla.

It's also really fucking funny how quick you're turning from "Pelops 2 didn't need SHIVA at all to beat Ultima!" like you faggots were arguing for the past two weeks to "Pelops 3 wasn't contradicting anything despite literally not being there and admitting he doesn't know what went down" now that info that completely fucks your stupid claims is here.

>>150025407
>How'd that work for Batman, mmm?
Cap

>>150025484
>Now he could with the equation
He didn't hurt him at all. You keep making this retarded claim as though it's suddenly going to become true if you keep repeating it.

>>150025474
It would be cool if the different versions all contributed but they don't. This matchup ENTIRELY hinges on Ultima. People only care about a comp Godzilla because they want Ultima. It's literally his only chance.

>>150025492
Hurting him isn’t the point you fucking inbred. The point is that JJ could HIT HIM. Jesus, fucking zillatards are worse than dcjeets, I swear to God.

>>150025460
This matchup quite literally doesn't work because without Ultima, Hulk wins by default. No other Goji variant can compete with capewank outside of his media crossovers.

HULK SMASH GOKU

>>150025407
>How'd that work for Batman, mmm?
Still think Batman should've lost against captain america and spiderman 2099

>>150025506
k, b, c

>>150025511
This happened. I saw it. I was there.

>>150025506
Mmmm,Hulk gosta de homenzinho colorido

>>150025500
>Hurting him isn’t the point you fucking inbred.
So now you're saying that hurting him isn't the point, when previously you were saying he could be hurt? Which is it?

>The point is that JJ could HIT HIM.
Which didn't do shit. Yes, glad we agree that transcending to his level doesn't mean you can hurt him. You can just begin to interact with him.

>zillatards
Howdy, Nikofag.

>>150025397
in the long term, he won

>>150025488
I'll make this easy for you
https://www.wco.tv/godzilla-singular-point-episode-13-english-subbed
Starting at 15:55
>"Even if the answer exists, how would I send it to them?"
>"The protocol to make Jet Jaguar invincible. I'd forgotten what Yun Arikawa asked me to do."
>"My name is Jet Jaguar PP. A descendant of Pelops II and Jet Jaguar many generations down. I knew everything from the beginning, but I couldn't remember. Until this moment, I was woven into the creases of the lullaby. I'm the one transmitting the lullaby, based on the protocol you wrote, until I had the power to fight the Catastrophe."
>"I was reborn again and again over time. The code for the Orthogonal Diagonalizer was with me the whole time. I'm the code itself. Thank you Yun Arikawa."

>Pelops calculated back in time until it reached Arikawa and had the answer based on Yun's protocol to make Jet Jaguar invincible, but needed a way to get it to the characters in the present. Arikawa begins hearing the song, which has the answer woven into it. In the present day, the song awakens in Jet Jaguar, who now remembers its task based on what Yun wrote and is able to defeat Ultima, because it had the code in itself the entire time.

Now let's look at the novel
>Pero2 calculates in the Super Time Calculator the parameters to reconfigure JJ into a form that can fight Godzilla, as well as the parameters to destroy the anchor that the singularity has dropped into this world, and incorporates them into the "song."

It says the exact same thing.

>>150025529
Okay and where does any of that say that Pelops 3's claims were correct.

>>150025505
That's the problem. It's cool from a fight perspective but research wise it's either a Hulk stomp or Zilla fans having to latch onto a specific version to stand a chance. And with >>150024458 it feels like literally everything is skewed towards Godzilla taking it

>>150025524
>Nigger can’t comprehend that solving the equation just lets you interact with Ultima and thus beat him
>Monkey thinks just because JJ, a weakling, couldn’t do lasting damage to Godzilla then someone like Hulk also couldn’t
Holy fuck, I can’t with this retardation. Actual NLF nonsense when the novel itself says otherwise.

>>150024791
>Hercules vs Sun Wukong
This waiting period was bad?

>>150025529
>"Even if the answer exists,
>implying it didn't exist before Pelops 2 became the song
This along contradicts Pelops 3 claiming there were multiple solutions.

>>150025544
Otto went full conspiretard

>>150025544
I want another myth match-up

>>150025549
That's just an average waiting period then

>>150025543
>Nigger can’t comprehend that solving the equation just lets you interact with Ultima and thus beat him
Solving the equation doesn't do shit unless you can become a Singular Point, which is what Jet Jaguar did. Knowing how to solve the equation does nothing inherently because it relies on SHIVA, the "song", and becoming a Singular Point through both to even touch Ultima then you have to get him to kill you in order to unleash the code to banish him.

>>150024791
Omnidock and Kratosura waiting periods concentrated into 3 weeks alone would have caused death battles irl.

>>150025546
>not reading in order
Pelops says that line, then remembers it has the protocol to make Jet Jaguar invincible in its memory
>"Something's reacting."
>"The protocol to make Jet Jaguar invincible. I'd forgotten what Yun Arikawa asked me to do. I see, I understand now."
>switch to present day
It's the same thing the novel explains, Pelops calculated the parameters based on Yun Arikawa's protocol and then wove it into the song

>>150025556
Wasn't Zeus vs Odin in one of those ballot things?
Just imagine the Nord vs Med faggots from /int/ and /pol/ coming here. Now THAT would be bad.

>>150025544
Otto went full schizo and basically lost it for the entire fucking duration with retarded projection of Superman onto Hercules and bothering people outside the site to validates beliefs Herc would win. It was miserable.

>>150025564
>"The protocol to make Jet Jaguar invincible. I'd forgotten what Yun Arikawa asked me to do. I see, I understand now."
That protocol that wouldn't have worked without the song, you mean?

>>150025549
QRD?

>>150025566
Kek, I'll have to look around the archives

Am I the only one who thought the blog was a bit wanky. Like, infinite layers into Outerversal for the Hulk simply because he could fight Doctor Strange is a bit much.

>>150025572
The protocol that Pelops calculated and then transmitted through the song, yes, glad we're on the same page.

I’m betting this is going to be a tie/double win just to spare zillatard feelings. Hulk or Ultima just outright winning makes zero sense with Ben’s comment about the episode being supposedly complicated and something they’ve never done before. I bet the animation will have two fights in it or something.

>>150025524
>Which didn't do shit. Yes, glad we agree that transcending to his level doesn't mean you can hurt him. You can just begin to interact with him.
I wonder why people have such an issue figuring out that being strong still means something big and powerful can knock you around. Even someone like Saitama who is basically invincible in OPM can get ragdolled by Boros even though being hit does nothing to him otherwise.

>>150025573
See >>150025566. That's the short of it.

>>150025579
The song which itself contained the solution because it was Pelops 2 from the start, yep. Glad we fully agree the solution didn't exist until Pelops 2 literally made it exist and that Pelops 3 was just speculating off of thin air.

>>150025581
Because it's pointless if you can't damage your opponent. And Hulk can't AFFORD to just knock Ultima around since existence will bluescreen in less than 3 hours from the moment it starts existing.

>>150025590
>It didn't exist even though both the anime and the novel say it was calculated because.... because.... it just DIDN'T okay!?

>>150025544
The matchups was pure poison for whatever reason. You had Otto and his Ottobots going hard for Heracles and then Wukongfags acting like Z-Tards while also referencing a 5 hour long video explaining Buddhist cosmology instead of bringing anything worthwhile to the table. Engaging the discussion either way was impossible because it was bogged down by bad blood that shouldn't have been there for the type of matchup that it was
Eventually, one or the other brought up a guy named Jim's blogs about Journey to the West, its translations, interpretations and at times powerscaling: https://journeytothewestresearch.com/about/
>Note (08-31-2022): My name has recently been appearing in online discussions claiming that I’m a professor of Journey to the West studies. For the sake of transparency, I should point out that I do not currently have a PhD, nor am I associated with any particular university. I am simply an independent researcher with a fiery passion for the novel.

>>150025577
That's how all comic scaling works though, it's basically the same as "what bleach fans see" in 99% of cases

>>150025595
That's what I mean. Being knocked around is irrelevant if damage cannot be dealt.

>>150025598
Sure but the scans didn’t even say what they were purported to most of the time. Like, the Dr. Strange feat where he was stopping the nexus from imploding or whatever the fuck links to a scan that doesn’t say anything like that at all.

>>150025565
>Odin vs Zeus

There's that, I just want to see all the bant. But I prefer a good ole Brit vs Irish fight. The bant would literally boil down to:

>King Arthur? cuck
>Literally had to use French sources? cuck
>Cu CHADlain?

>>150025566
Kek, wut? Herc isn't even allowed to be consistency Supes-level in DC itself lmao

>>150025604
…and just because JJ couldn’t damage him doesn’t mean Hulk couldn’t. That’s the point.

>>150025619
>Literally had to use French sources?
Oh nonono, don't tell the Anglos they've been ruled by the French for hundreds of years...

>>150025629
Anglo-bros...we LITERALLY could have won the 100 years war if Henry V didn't die. Also, the frogs are simps/cucks for Joan "ACK" Arc

>>150025566
Does Superman even map that well on to the myth of Heracles? He's much closer to a Christo-Golemesque figure.
Heracles is more about redemption in the eyes of the world through trials rather than protection and heroism.
Disney's Hercules is much closer to Superman, I'll give you.

>>150025606
You mean this?

>>150025638
It doesn't even make sense, Henry V should've TANKED that based on his established durability feats and Joan is a fraud who isn't even provably a saint chosen by God instead of just some random madwoman...

>>150025641
Hercules was the first guy with superhuman strength and power. Everyone with traits like that takes inspiration from him.

>>150025651
>Joan is a fraud

Explain why did the French feel MOTIVATED to fight for her? That's an established FEAT

>>150025664
That's not a feat! That's just the French wanking her to spite the English, a completely biased source!

>>150025652
>laughs in Gilgamesh
>laughs in Enkidu

>>150025672
>GIRUGAMESH

>>150025665
>French wank
>Not feat
>Yet Orleans TANKED the English advance because of Jeanne
>Motivated the French to counter-attack
>Present at the coronation of Charles VII

>>150025565
Int+pol fags vs KINGtos. Who wins?

>>150025641
There was a reason for it

>>150025687
The character or the poster?

ENOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkMUI_87IIM

Piccolo fight is next.

Going to bed now, going to wake up to Godzilla losing. Screencap this post and forever make fun of Hulkbros if I’m wrong but I know I’m not.

>>150025697
Posters. Made them work together because nationalists are very weak to vs battle type of nerdy autismo.

12-0

>>150025695
Finally a worthy opponent for Superman

>>150025710
I literally BROKE /int/ with my Karaboga strength

Whatever the result is, I will slumber until the next Hulk fight.

>>150025687
KINGtos

>>150025710
I think KINGtos would win because you can't really tear down Kratos with their usual anti-med arguments. Plus he's a Greek who kills Norse gods, so it's even more humiliating for them.

>hulk absorbed and destroyed the embodiment of hope released from pandora's box
KRATOSBROS WHAT THE FUCK IS THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

>>150025711
Because of a misunderstanding on how Ultima lost
Because they gave Banner all his tech that Death Battle probably won't use because you'd be covering two separate characters at that point and the runtime is 25 minutes long

>>150025729
Hope...is weak...especially in Marvel

Episode 200 is gonna be Mario & Luigi vs Sonic & Tails

>>150025724
Lol. The kingtos fag larps as a fag of a character who is suposed to be multiversal, yet has a very bad track record against rocks. The usual "no uh out of context" shit like a fucking capeshit discussion that /his/ threads usually derail into would just power his shitposting. Bring the one who shall not be named, and it would be enough to give them ptsd about battleboarding

>>150025747
Better yet, Mario and Sonic vs Luigi and Tails

>>150025739
>Muh misunderstanding
The sooner you accept Ultima is a featless bastard the better

If Hulk loses instead they're inevitably going to give him a pity match for a win. Who will it be?

>>150025752
In retrospective i can't believe i am powerscaling schizos against the fucking kingtos fag. Better than arguing against a bleach fag

>>150025739
>Banner is a separate character from Hulk

>>150025752
>one who shall not be named
Voldemort? How will he help?

>>150025781
Voldemort is the kingtos fag. Deep lore

Will you convert like Hulk did after defeating Ultima?

>>150025768
/dbs/ still sits atop the autism powerlevels.

>>150025786
Makes sense, they are both bald and abandoned by their fathers.

>>150025813
>/dbs/ still sits atop the autism powerlevels.
No that's /dbg/ since we get massively autistic about tons of franchises not just 1, /dbs/ has the constant shitposting and cuckposting awards though

>>150025767
KINGtos

>>150024384 (OP)
I've never watched a single episode of this garbage.
That said, practically every single time I see it mentioned, I have no fucking clue why they even need to make a video about it.
Gohan crushes Mark. It's not even really a contest, what the fuck?
Why even bother watching this shit, for real.

>>150024384 (OP)
Rolling

Say your lines now or regret it later

>>150025849
They made kratos multiversal, and quadrilions of times faster than light to beat someone who destroyed stars on screen. People here just shitpost.

>>150024384 (OP)
Whens our queen gonna be in death battle

and why is she fighting bayo and only nayo

So what are the honest bets? As much as I don’t want Hulk going 0-3 I’m pretty much convinced with the entire research team being Zillafags (including guests) and them hyping up Ultima so hard

>>150025778
Death Battle is daddy issues galore.

Boys bitching about abusive dads and then crossdressing like it's normal. If anything the dad wasn't abusive enough.

>>150025900
Never ever.Now enjoy your Sabrewulf vs Jon Talbain and Felicia vs Taokaka episodes because that's all Darkstalkers is going to get

>>150025778
>abusive dad liking Hulk
heh

>>150025558
>Solving the equation doesn't do shit unless you can become a Singular Point, which is what Jet Jaguar did. Knowing how to solve the equation does nothing inherently because it relies on SHIVA, the "song", and becoming a Singular Point through both to even touch Ultima then you have to get him to kill you in order to unleash the code to banish him
it's never been more over

>>150025921
Forget Darkstalkers, the last time we had any fighting game characters in a DB was 4 years ago with Akuma vs Shao Kahn. Not even a new SF, Tekken, Fatal Fury, or MK was enough.

>>150025912
>crossdressing out of NOWHERE

>>150025581
people? try schizos, bruva
like certain schizo anon that was arguing that "getting ragdolled equals to getting damaged" when we were discussing that monsters in Percy Jackson were immune to normal weaponry...

>>150025900
I want her to fuck my virginal asshole with her huge futa cock

>>150024824
Yeah except Goku dosen’t do that. Name one time Goku did that than won his fight?

>>150024898
Yes as we know Atem fucks all his slaves equally.
>”Yes of course Yugi,I mean didn’t you wonder why I died so young? Ancient Egyptian aids Yugi, no shadow realm is fixing that went full Queen and had orgies like Freddie Mercury.”

>”Pharaoh Freddie Mercury was gay he fucked men.”

>”Bitch I know what I said and he was bi fyi we fucked all the slaves.” >>150024898

>>150025905
It would be hilarious if even with all the zillafags they brought hulk still won

>>150024658
So filler is fine for downplaying purposes? But we must pretend that base child Gohan blows up the Makyo star didn't happen cuz it's filler?

>>150025842
/dbg/ feels so defeated compared to /dbs/ in it's heyday I mentally sort them into separate tiers.

>>150025900
>and why is she fighting bayo and only nayo
Honest question, who else would she fight? Hades=Izanami?

>>150024725
Ok, but when have Mark or Nolan ever destroyed a planet in a fight, either?

>>150025001
this has got to be Top 10 most retarded retcons of all time. Has there been any retcon more retarded than this?

>>150025905
This has been said a lot but what's the source on this? All I know is Nemesis being a Godzilla fan.

>guest researchers
>most of them Godzilla fags
LMAO!!! Is this the most obvious set-up?

>>150026199
Nothing besides that guy. Ben and Swan are also fans but everyone knows Ben doesn’t do research and Swan has repeatedly said he thinks Hulk stomps badly despite liking Godzilla more.

>>150025870
>singular point novel pretty much guaranteed
>composite godzilla confirmed
>minus one atomic breath already used
4 definitely

>drugged out people make bullshit OP cosmologies (The Elder Scrolls, maybe Dark Tower and Twin Peaks too)
>math nerds also make bullshit OP cosmologies (Godzilla Singular Point, Self-Reference Engine, Ruckerverse)
>philosophers also make bullshit OP cosmologies (too many to count
What happens when a drugged out math major who also has a degree on philosophy writes a cosmology?

Post your Never Evers.
here's mine. Who wins?

Carrie White (carrie) vs Andrew Detmer (Chronicle)

Personally, I think it depends on if Andrew could avoid the meteorites that Carrie's shown being able to summon.

>>150026232
>What happens when a drugged out math major who also has a degree on philosophy writes a cosmology?
Then maybe something will finally beat SCP

>>150025778
>when godzilla loses and dad find out who his son rooted for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsQLWnfWqBs

>>150026241
The Unconquered Sun (Exalted) vs Divis Mal (Adventure!/Aberrant/Trinity). Too obscure for Death Battle. And thank fucking God for that.

>>150026264
How strong are they?

>>150026243
Someone already made a verse that negs SCPs before SCPs where a thing.
Its called Suggsverse.

>>150026271
The former is explicitly stated to have infinite energy in his spear attack alone, the latter ends his stay in his reality by creating another universe for him and his not!mutants to go live in. I'm pretty sure the former wins for what it's worth, at this point I'm solely interested in sick looking fights.

When's the track coming out?
Chances of the next fight being Ruby vs Maka?

>>150026302
A bit before or after the episode releases, though given Therewolf's tendency to spoil the winner in his songs it will probably be released after. The chances of Ruby vs Maka being episode 200 are very high now that Ash vs Yugi got delayed but there's always a chance that it's something else like naruto vs luffy or mewtwo vs shadow 2

>>150026033
Calm down Dimitri,jeez. Just because Morrigan stole your mc status doesn't mean you should act like this...

>>150026321
I feel like the Godzilla theme playing at the end could signal both a loss and a win for him.

>no series titles
>just Hulk VS Godzilla
Kino

>Fight ends after Godzilla and Hulk explode
>They’re left as weakened shells, Hulk reverts to Banner
>Look out at the destruction they caused
>”We aren’t so different…”
>*lizard noises*
>Small Goji and Banner start walking off towards the horizon, hand-in-hand
>”We are monsters no longer…*

>>150026285
Themes? How the match wouls go? White wolf stupid haxes were always fun to see on action.

>>150026382
WHEN DO THEY KISS

>>150026382
Banner was TEACHING Hulk and Godzilla...

>>150026392
Mothra and yoko

It feels good to be a Death Battle winner, it's even better when I have a Canonical loving wife waiting to drown me in kisses and cuddles as celebration.
Not that I need that, her smile is enough of a reward.

>>150026117
Nta,but Bayonetta,Vampirella and Arcueid from Tsukihime.Morrigan is one of those characters that doesn't have alot of options in terms of matchups

>>150025638
>>150025651
Sorry, Jeanne has better Jesus scaling than any of those other losers
>B-But
She willingly went to her death after regretting getting a confession forced out of her since she kept getting denied communion

>>150026490
Etna?

How do you beat force nullification characters in a fight?

>>150026503
>Gohan's most famous feat of killing Cell still required Goku to pull it off
KWAB

>>150026527
Nullify their powers

>The Vs blog everyone keeps posting is filled with nonsense that's contradicted by the show, let alone the novel
Even if the Hulk wins, I hope they don't use those retarded arguments

>>150026500
Oh yeah, she's probably one of her better matchups now that I think about it

>>150026552
Blog making fanfic to let their fav character win? Another fucking Coyote dna gun is happening, isn't.

>new AU version of Kasen's arm
>Has it's own Danmaku patterns
>Can cut through her own bullets (we'll see if those are made of light once she releases)
>Can exist alongside Kasen to a certain extent
>Can manipulate electricity
>Absorbs electricity and blindness status effects to grow stronger
S-sonicsisters...
I just realized Kasen actually has 3 alts on this game... I might have to waste real life Money to get them all

>>150026527
Poison them

>>150026552
>it’s nonsense because they don’t wank Ultima with shit he doesn’t have
>turns out he is, in fact, a featless fraud
Demonbane 2.0, everyone. Kekadoodledoo!

>>150026576
Sonic gets gaped by 2hoes retarded hax, even if he might outstat. And the only way to compete in kratos lore fanfic is with games or archie.

>>150026585
Anon, they said that Jet Jaguar won by punching Ultima really hard. This literally never happens.

is Monika one of the weakest demanded characters on the show? in-universe she's nothing more then a character in a video game and can only effect the game she's in, this means all her popular matchups are stomps for her opponent since they actually exist in the real world of their setting while Monika doesn't
her only fair matchup is against Wreck It Ralph which is pretty funny

>>150026538
He was at half power and bleeding iut when he did it... Gohan was also like 9 years old here.

>>150024743
Kratos vs Asura was the worst wait period, 3 months of the same jokes being made over and over and over again
Simon vs Kyle is only worse if you're sensitive to slander which means you wouldn't have survived the Wally vs Sonic wait period

>>150026596
He knows. Nikofag is just shitposting because he hasn't read any of the stuff posted in these threads and just wants an excuse to shit on kaijufags.

>>150026596
Oh, so now the novel is wrong and we should ignore it? Kek.

Here’s what I don’t get. Ben said that the fight is super complicated, and on the fire side chat they said “they’re doing something with the animation they’ve never done before”. That blog claims that just hitting him hard enough is enough to win, and some people are already clinging to it. But that doesn’t seem to line up with anything the crew said. Not saying Godzilla is going to win. I’m just saying that doesn’t align with what’s been said at all.

>Omni-Man vs Bardock
>Kratos vs Asura
>Simon vs Kyle
>Hulk vs Godzilla
>Ash vs Yugi coming up soon
Yup yup, this season's matchup list was specifically designed to end /dbg/ for good

>>150024563
Just like my MCU films! I can't wait to watch this with my wife's boyfriend!

>>150026602
Yeah, and not only that but she is pretty clueless about how to mess with the files of her own game, she struggles with it and often fucks up things on the fly.
That's why even when fighting other virtual entities she likely loses, specially if the fight requires her to interact with another game outside of DDLC

Since Ash vs Yugi got delayed, do you think it will be the season finale?

>>150026616
>Gohan was 9
Why do you guys call him TEEN Gohan then? A 9 year old isnt a teen.

>multiple godzillafags on the team, including the writer
YOU
>no bruce banner va credits yet
THINK
>episode delayed because of godzilla
YOU'RE
>hulk goes world breaker immediately
STRONG?
>vs blog supporting hulk is apparently wrong
HULK
>composite godzilla vs 616 Hulk
STRONGEST
>singular point novel included and translated
THERE
>godzilla winning would be better for these threads
IS!

>>150026639
If SHARTima was going to win then that wouldn’t make sense either because they’ve done much crazier (and stronger) reality warping fights before. Either of them just straight up winning doesn’t make sense with what Ben said, unless he meant the size difference between Godzilla and Hulk or something dumb like that.

>>150026638
They are literally making stuff up in the blog. The novel doesn't say JJ won by punching really hard.

>Go to Reddit
>Everyone takes the blog at face value despite it being obviously wrong
>Can't be bothered to make an account to call them retards

The blog is proof that hulktards don’t read and just assume shit. Like expected.

>>150026690
Again, he's aware anon. He does not care. That's his post right above yours and it's just pure shitposting and seethe start to finish. He's not going to listen to any amount of reason or logic.

>>150026690
The novel literally says to win is through blows. That means fighting. Why are you now denying what your sacred novel says, zillatard?

>>150026568
Coyote would've won anyways

>>150026685
It could be something mild but difficult to animate, people are immediately jumping to the biggest most esoteric things imaginable. Even something like just a weird between dimensions sequence with trippy visuals wouldn't be out of the scope of an ordinary fight but still unique and hard to render.

>>150024841
>>150024861
Pretty sure the Lugia movie is canon too, being referenced in the arc where Ash encounters a mama and baby Lugia.

>>150026697
Going to flex my powerlevel a bit.
>Someone makes a blog about Tyrannosaurus Rex vs Spinosaurus (the real things)
>read it
>Its full of dubious claims, assumptions out the ass and literally using fossil material we have no idea what it is and coming to the least likely conclusion
>it literally uses T. rex fighting creatures its size as a disadvantage because apparently that means “it can’t fight smaller things, which Spinosaurus is”
>Reddit comments all ate it up as 100% fact.

>>150026602
wouldn't she be fucked by Ralph too if he's not in the internet since she'd have to fuck with arcade code which she has never done before?

>Hulk’s wincon is simple, so they’ll go with that!
>Ignore that Ben said this needs a DBC to explain, shut up!

>>150026593
Gil vs Yukari is going to be wild

>>150026576
>fanmade gacha
>already scaled to gorillions ftl or infinite speed anyway
>british sonic has no electric or blinding attacks

>>150026576
Kirbonic Pikmin…

>>150026730
>wouldn't she be fucked by Ralph

>>150026576
Kill yourself Kirbonic Pikmin

>>150026751
>retard thinks they’d need a cast to explain Ultima hax if he was winning
Lmao. The fight is clearly more nuanced than you dipshits are giving it credit for. It’s more likely:

>Hulk outstats hard but Zilla has better hax
>Hulk can’t easily kill Zilla but Zilla can’t kill Hulk easily either
>Banner vs Ultima

>>150026774
>fanmade gacha
ah so it's doubly worthless

>>150026797
I’m not saying that, Ben did.

>>150026751
He didn't say he wanted a cast to explain the winner, he said he wanted a cast to talk about the match because it's so interesting.

>>150026845
Yeah, because punch hard is super unique and interesting.

>>150026864
>he thinks “hax gg” is more interesting

>>150026872
It is, in an objective level.

>>150026797
Yeah it seems like the complicated parts of the match are
>explaining Hulk's stat advantage over Godzilla
>explaining the breadth of Godzilla's hax and how Hulk resists or doesn't resist it
And there's a lot of moving parts, but the actual kill itself is going to be very simple either way.
Even if it's something like "Ultima deletes Hulk out of the timeline" that's still a very simple kill and something they've already done with Wally vs Sonic or Trunks

>>150026880
>”lol I win” button is more interesting than punch hard
Maybe on planet retard.

>>150026864
Why do you immediately jump to the verdict? It could just literally be Ben thinking the themes and how they gel are really interesting and wanting to talk about the production.

>>150026892
>”punch hard” is incredibly interesting, it’s literally never been done before!
Sorry I’m not a third worlder.

>>150026864
yes
https://youtu.be/djgKkrYSojk?feature=shared

>>150026872
Yes actually.

>Big punch is actually very unique and interesting!
The absolute state of capeshitters

>>150024384 (OP)
Americans are so unlucky that they didnt get the absolute hax and shonenkino that is Saint Seiya in any proper way.
>W-Who is this barbie looking guy? M-My goat superman will just punch him...!
Useless. He can regrow his body even after complete atomization.
>W-Well, he will just do the same thing again!
Useless. Saints adapt to techniques they have seen before and nullify them
>H-He will use his super senses to find a solution
Useless. Tenbu Horin (Heaven Dancing Ring) removes your 5 senses, depriving you of sight, taste (ability to speak), Hearing, Touch (Cannot move anymore) and Smell (making it hard to breathe) alongside the 6th sense, which is intuition in the Saint Seiya verse, leaving them as a breathing corpse.

>H-He still has his soul he can...
Useless. Rikudo Rinne (6 paths of reincarnation) can send the opponents soul to one of the 6th hells, even lets them pick which one to go to.
>M-My character can mindhax him!
Useless. Shaka easily nullified Phoenix Ikki's mindhax and can even shoot it back to his foe stronger.
>My character can blitz!
Useless. Not only his cosmos can reach Ikki after he traveled a distance 2.5e+45 times bigger than the real life universe, is superior to Andromeda Shun whose chains reached the patriarch from inside a completely separate dimension, is superior to Capicorn Shura who blitzed the expansion of an inifnite timelined universe, he has a God Cloth, which requires infinite cosmo to use, and such increases speed.

>W-Well, my character can possibly tank his attacks!?
Useless. Cosmos is stated and shown to be able to atom hax objects regardless of their durability, and can destroy souls with normal attacks, also scales somewhat to the god cloth protagonists, who could Hurt Hades, who not only vastly surpasses Big Bang Athena Exclamations, but created the hyperdimension where time and space mean nothing, Elysium and Hell, which all have their own space times, alongside an Urn he claims not even Zeus can destroy

>>150026897
They need some final cope. They know the Ultima fraud check is coming.

>>150026938
Fuck off listtroon

>>150026938
>Americans
what are you then, a spic?

>>150026958
>150026958
Saint Seiya was mostly popular in mexico and brazil so

>>150026872
It is, yes

>>150026938
One retcon punch and your gay jap character gets written out of his story

>>150026690
It sounds like the author is retarded then because there's a clear divergence with the novel and show even when he said otherwise
So now you have
>the anime that has terrible feats and showings but the story events you want
And
>the novel with the feats and showings you need to win that also literally says physical combat is the correct solution
Kekaroo. Can't believe people think this is at all comparable to Otoko Simon

“Ladies and gentlemen, kaiju fans, monster lovers, and believers in the King of the Monsters—today, we celebrate the ultimate triumph of raw power, evolution, and pure legendary status. For decades, fans have argued: could the Hulk’s unstoppable rage ever outmatch the might of Godzilla? And today, the answer roared loud and clear—Godzilla stands victorious!”

“Let’s give credit where it’s due—Hulk is no pushover. He’s one of Marvel’s strongest, a force who grows stronger with every heartbeat of fury. But when you’re standing against Godzilla, you’re not just fighting muscle—you’re facing a living natural disaster. You’re fighting nuclear fire, a titan forged from humanity’s greatest fears and nature’s ultimate wrath.”

“Godzilla didn’t just win—he proved why he’s the King of the Monsters. The atomic breath, the resilience that defies logic, and the sheer scale of his might simply overwhelmed the Hulk. Hulk’s rage may be limitless, but Godzilla’s power is boundless, primal, and eternal. No skyscraper is tall enough, no gamma burst is strong enough, and no opponent is mighty enough to dethrone him.”

“So today, we celebrate not just a victory in Death Battle, but a reminder of what Godzilla represents. He is the force of nature that cannot be tamed, the symbol of power that echoes across generations of fans. The King roared, and the Hulk fell.”

“Long live Godzilla—the true King of the Monsters!”

hey remember when they did Frieza vs Megatron and it was pretty much the old blog from 2020 but with the inclusion of black Frieza?

>>150026982
K,b,c

>>150026981
>that also literally says physical combat is the correct solution
It doesn't.

>>150026981
They literally don't contradict each other unless you're retarded. JJ PP never says that he can physically beat Godzilla (this was outright shown in the anime). I don't know how braindead you'd have to be to read that passage and conclude that Jaguar won due to physical might.

>>150026982
wouldn't it be funny if all these posts of Godzilla being Simon just jinx him like it did with Tom?

>>150027005
>unless you’re retarded
Therein lies the issue

>>150026979
bitch saint seiya charas can exist in the hyperdimension made by hades from hell to elysium which distorts time and space of anything inside itself.
Also Aiolos message endured even after the olympic gods deleted Athena and the Saints memories in Next Dimension, and it made Athena recover her memories.

Your retcon punch gets analyzed and nullified after prime gets mindhaxed and soulhaxed.

I used to not care if Hulk or Godzilla would win since I like both, but now I want Godzilla to win because that blogpost genuinely irritated me.
Am I autistic?

>>150027021
It's so funny how Saint Seiya mogs so many settings without even trying

>>150027040
You’re here, so yes.

Friends, adventurers, and heroes across all realms—today we gather to honor a victory that will echo through the ages. The question was asked: could the original hero of Final Fantasy, the Warrior of Light, overcome the might of Superman, the Man of Steel? And now, with shining sword and unyielding courage, the Warrior of Light has triumphed!

Superman is no ordinary opponent. He is an icon, a symbol of hope, a being of near-limitless strength who has stood against gods and monsters alike. To defeat him is to achieve the impossible. But that is exactly what the Warrior of Light was born to do—to face the impossible and to prevail.

Armed with legendary weapons, divine blessings, and the endless resolve of countless battles across worlds, the Warrior of Light proved that strength is more than raw power. It is discipline. It is strategy. It is the courage to stand tall against overwhelming odds. Superman may draw power from the sun, but the Warrior of Light draws power from something even greater—the eternal crystal, and the will of every soul he fights to protect.

This victory is not just about one hero defeating another—it is about what the Warrior of Light represents. He embodies the spirit of the adventurer, the will to rise again no matter how many times fate tries to cast him down. In this battle, the Man of Steel met the unbreakable will of the Light—and the Light prevailed.

So raise your blades, raise your voices, and celebrate! For today, the Warrior of Light shines brighter than ever, and even Superman himself could not dim that brilliance!

>>150027010
Coyote won because of Tails gets Trolled-scaling where Coyote had better feats than Tom

>>150027005
Please read my post and try again anon.

Or don't, because...I mean let's be honest we both know when Hulk wins you're still going to be screaming about how everyone "misunderstood" your novel.

The blog coming to give Hulkbros hope and confidence just for it to be dashed when the episode comes out would be REALLY funny.

>>150027055
>There's clear divergence with the novel and show
>There isn't
What am I supposed to read again?

what got the spic to post all his copypastas this time?

Who is joining THEM today?

>>150027004
It literally fucking does >>150026638

Fucking hilarious how zillatards are now disregarding their holy cow novel because it shows Ultima isn’t unbeatable like they wanked him to be.

>>150025001
>>150026153
This is just the wiki being retarded and taking a basic error and pretending it's a real fact. The Kakarot statement is specifically referring to anime filler. Where months after Piccolo blew up the moon Gohan's tail regrew and he turned into a Great Ape again. It turned out that Goku's spacepod became active and produced a hologram of the moon that induced the transformation.

Kakarot is simply talking about that anime original scene set after Piccolo destroyed the actual moon.
https://youtu.be/0JYHHFLlLGY

>>150027070
The king of the monsters of course.

>>150027070
Godzilla.

>>150027065
Vibe shift to Hulk winning due to the blog

MOGs composite Hulk

>>150027070
What do you think?

Honestly I'm getting to a point where I appreciate pure stat bricks with resistances more than paragraphs upon paragraphs of retarded abilities and dimensional babble.

>>150027071
It literally doesn't say or imply "Jet Jaguar beat Godzilla Ultima through physical means" in the actual novel. Did you read the other screenshots posted of that exact page? He immediately starts talking about finding a way to use the Archetype to banish Godzilla instead of actually fist-fighting him.

>>150027105
Based and same.

>>150027109
>did you read
You know he did not.

>>150027105
I don't care for pure stat sticks that scale above galaxy level. Only things that reside there are outliers and wonky power scalings.

BrickGODS won. Haxlets lost.

Ol' Godzilla was hoping around Tokyo City like a big playground

>>150027083
Hey Listroon, you know the one time Simon tells someone to grit their teeth it's in a positive context, right? You HAVE watched the anime whose protagonist you dicksuck so much, right?

>>150027109
>In other words, the plan was to decide the battle not by superchemical means, but by blows, which is somewhat out of my style.

There is literally nothing else this can mean besides a physical fight. Crying and shitting your pants over it won’t make it not true.

New
>>150027168

>>150027105
we need a stone wall vs stone wall fight where two fuckers that have god tier durability and resistances but average strength and hax fight each other

>>150024968
>LEECHku shit feat

>>150027159
He is telling bruce banner to man up, and solve the equation, my inspirational hero..

>>150027091
Sorry Jiren, but your path ends here.

>>150027070
Hulk will be alone in the 0-3 MVP lounge. (Goku start in the pool before leaving because of Gogeta vs Vegito

>>150027065
Reddit made fun of him again

>>150027040
You're in this thread so yeah.

>>150025034
That's oversimplification, anon It has also a sad tale about children trying to survive during faux World War 2

>>150027105
As is natural.

Saw the winner today