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Anonymous No.150174829 >>150174987 >>150175181 >>150175762 >>150175897 >>150175963 >>150176150 >>150179144 >>150180670 >>150181568 >>150187340 >>150188056 >>150188454 >>150202413 >>150208517 >>150209910 >>150210197 >>150211142 >>150218208 >>150223080 >>150228830 >>150229037 >>150249448 >>150254099 >>150260237 >>150283381 >>150289263 >>150308085
>gwen's terrible mini-series is almost over
>but then she will go back to being completely forgotten
Why is being a Gwenpool fan pure suffering? We either get nothing or garbage. The more time passes the more I think Unbelievable should have ended with her being sent back to her own world.
Anonymous No.150174987 >>150179013 >>150186546
>>150174829 (OP)
She had a decent first run but now she's just a vehicle for memes and progressive bait. She's not really a character anymore. It's telling that the most attention she's gotten in a while is her comic literally getting highjacked by someone more important. And dead. Just look forward to her Marvel Rivals debut.
Anonymous No.150175181
>>150174829 (OP)
get back in the box slut. don't make me poast gwenabuse
Anonymous No.150175221 >>150175406 >>150175890 >>150178061 >>150188409 >>150202561 >>150256958
Anonymous No.150175406 >>150175536 >>150256958
>>150175221
I don't read DC, but isn't Superboy Prime a trollish, villain-type character?
Anonymous No.150175514
She's cute and sexy enough to always be remembered
Anonymous No.150175536
>>150175406
He's gotten a redemption arc and was portrayed as someone who doesn't take things too seriously
Anonymous No.150175762 >>150175890 >>150185825
>>150174829 (OP)
>Why is being a Gwenpool fan pure suffering?
The future refused to change.
Anonymous No.150175890
>>150175762
>>150175221
>A mobile game made a Gwenpool that Hyperions
She still has the potential to become the big boss type for an event. Just needs to become horribly disillusioned after spending a decade or so in comic book limbo.
Anonymous No.150175897
>>150174829 (OP)
This character was horrid
Anonymous No.150175954 >>150175976 >>150177261
I've read the last issue of the mini, trust me when I say you want it to be completely forgotten.
It gets meta, the writer outright says he doesn't like her and shits on her for things that only applied to the way he wrote her.
Anonymous No.150175963
>>150174829 (OP)
You honestly deserve worse
Anonymous No.150175976 >>150176099
>>150175954
Does she try defending herself, or is it about how she lacks agency?
Anonymous No.150176099 >>150176164 >>150176812 >>150177261
>>150175976
It's about how she "doesn't take anything seriously" and treats her like she still doesn't see anyone else as real. He uses her kicking Fin Fang Foom as an example of why she can't be in a story that's ever serious. She not only doesn't defend herself, she acts like it's a deep flaw she has and resolves to be less of a joke character.
Anonymous No.150176150
>>150174829 (OP)
>Why is being a Gwenpool fan pure suffering?
Because you choose to read anything other than the Hastings run.
I don't and I still enjoy her a lot.
You should be able to spot the red flags of a shit story from a mile away, anon.
Anonymous No.150176164
>>150176099
>He uses her kicking Fin Fang Foom as an example of why she can't be in a story that's ever serious.
Sounds like the limits of his talent.
ONE can write with OP characters just fine.
Anonymous No.150176665 >>150178049 >>150194214 >>150257003
My condolences to you all.
Anonymous No.150176812 >>150176838 >>150177699 >>150195071
>>150176099
It must really burn Marvel Editorial's ass that Jeff The Landshark is such a certified cash cow right now thanks to Rivals and is intrinsically linked to her, huh?
Anonymous No.150176838 >>150177427 >>150193211 >>150195071
>>150176812
They tried to ignore Gwen's connection to Jeff by making her Kate Bishop's pet in the It's Jeff webtoon. The only reason Gwen even started appearing in It's Jeff is because Gurihiru pushed for her inclusion.
Anonymous No.150177261 >>150177691 >>150219921
>>150176099
>>150175954
Assuming you're telling the truth, that's extremely disappointing but it's still better than what I feared. I was starting to legitimately fear the leaks that Gwen Poole was going to possess Gwen Stacypool and gain mutant regen in an attempt to make her even closer to Deadpool, which would have been disastrous for her character.

This ending is just extremely hacky by comparison. It's yet another writer who doesn't get Gwen thinking he's Grant Morrison and writing himself into the story to correct Gwen on problems she already got over in Unbelievable (these issues brought up aren't inaccurate to Gwen but he's just copying Chris Hasting's homework here, she already went through this arc in her first comic) and pretending like problems he himself introduced to her story are intrinsic problems to her because no writer can bother to read her origin story.

It's shit but it's the kind of shit you can just forget and move on from, way easier to ignore than the mutant retcon (which everyone ignores) and the asexual shit (which everyone wants to ignore but Marvel mandates make it really difficult)
Anonymous No.150177427 >>150177499 >>150193211
>>150176838
based Gurihiru as usual
Anonymous No.150177499
>>150177427
>You all keep telling me to take my meds, eh?
>Well lets see how YOU like my meds!
Anonymous No.150177691 >>150177718 >>150211866
>>150177261
Gwen's body is turned into a Frankenstein's monster-esque Deathlok, somehow getting like a foot taller and very muscular, and she possesses it. She makes a comment about how she'll probably find a way to fix it by her next appearance, with a mention of going to Mega Tony. Stacypool is still around at the end and the two are set up as a potential team.
The entire thing is stupid and I hope it's never acknowledged again.
Anonymous No.150177699
>>150176812
No? They just write Gwenpool out of that shit whenever Jeff’s around, I don’t think it makes them mad they get to ignore a character they dislike
Anonymous No.150177718 >>150178046
>>150177691
>She makes a comment about how she'll probably find a way to fix it by her next appearance, with a mention of going to Mega Tony
Nice to have Mega Tony mentioned but yeah I doubt anything like what you're describing would stick with the character, that Deathlok sounds okay for a short possession but absolutely zero lasting appeal
>Stacypool sticks around
Legitimately surprising, not entirely unwelcome. She was a huge nothingburger but if Ben can stick around I guess there's no reason one Gwen clone can't, though I hope they don't insist she's gonna be 'Gwenpool 2' or something
Anonymous No.150178046
>>150177718
i need someone to draw gwen on gwen action
Anonymous No.150178049
>>150176665
Thanks Peeg
Anonymous No.150178061
>>150175221
Sad but true. I was surprised by how enjoyable he is now.
Anonymous No.150179013 >>150192103
>>150174987
>She had a decent first run but now she's just a vehicle for memes and progressive bait
sad that this is basically what happened to Kamala too. at least Iman Vellani understands the character better than every writer since her creator's run ended
Anonymous No.150179131 >>150183620
Gwenpool's another victim of Marvel's endless fellation of the status quo. Gwen's thing is that she's a Z-lister who wants to be an A-lister, that's her equivalent of Bruce Banner wanting to cure himself of the Hulk, or Ben Grimm wanting to cure himself of the Thing, or Peter Parker wanting to cure himself of being a single loser. If Gwen actually accomplishes her goal, there's nothing left for her to strive for, or at least Marvel stubbornly believes that. So she's doomed to never be a major player, precisely because wanting to be that and never getting it is what defines her character.
Anonymous No.150179144
>>150174829 (OP)
What mini series?
Anonymous No.150179692
At least there's always Unbelievable Gwenpool. I've basically just ignored everything else she's been in
Anonymous No.150180670 >>150184787 >>150184808
>>150174829 (OP)
"Terrible" is a bit much, wouldn't you say?
Anonymous No.150181568
>>150174829 (OP)
Gwen was never good
Anonymous No.150182342
I have clone/multiversal gwen fatigue.
Anonymous No.150183591
Storytime of pain soon?
Anonymous No.150183620 >>150183738
>>150179131
I am perfectly content for Gwen to be a Z-lister forever, that's her lane and she's most comfortable in it despite her grievances. But even Z-listers should be able to at least get a couple decent stories now and then...
Anonymous No.150183693 >>150184636 >>150211128
It was storytimed here >>150181202 and it is just as terrible as you'd expect.
Anonymous No.150183738 >>150185804
>>150183620
This. Gwen being an underdog is fine, especially given her commitment at the end of the Hastings run which is her sacrificing her future popularity to be a better person. Being stuck as a z-lister is the choice she made, and it was the right one.

The problem is that, like all capeshit, Gwen's writers post-Hastings not only didn't read his run, they actively resent the idea that they are not being given a clean slate character to mold as they will. They don't want to write the Gwenpoole character as was already established, they want to have first crack at her despite being 10th in line. So she can't keep a consistent tone or personality to save her life, and just ends up a meandering mess of nothing.
Anonymous No.150183769
because Gwenpool is a shit character and you all deserve this for allowing that floating shitstain of a shark to get popular
Anonymous No.150184636
>>150183693
>didn't include the name of the storytime
that's why it was hard to find but thanks
Anonymous No.150184787
>>150180670
No, that shit is ass.
Anonymous No.150184808
>>150180670
After reading the final issue I think "terrible" is putting it lightly.
Anonymous No.150185804
>>150183738
>Being stuck as a z-lister is the choice she made, and it was the right one.
Very good way of putting it, Gwen is forever a Z-lister because she chose that path over her evil, more successful future.
Every year feels like the climax of Unbelievable ages better and better knowing Gwen really does sacrifice any sort of success in the future and her friends all disappeared into the editorial ether just like she feared
Anonymous No.150185825
>>150175762
>The position of the sword handle
Coincidence??
Anonymous No.150186546
>>150174987
>Just look forward to her Marvel Rivals debut.
I've been looking forward to it for almost two years now, I need hopium at this point (or settle for her appearing in that new animu Marvel fighter game which would also be nice)
Anonymous No.150187340
>>150174829 (OP)
Nobody reads comics anymore. She needs a new role. Maybe you could do something with her being meta. Don't have comic books but show up in messageboards, tiktoks and reels and what not.
Anonymous No.150187972 >>150189095
Well, see you in 5 years when Gwen gets another mini-series.
Anonymous No.150188056 >>150188134
>>150174829 (OP)
HAHAHAHAHA YES! Get fucked, Gwenpool fag!!
You are so fucking annoying with this character and that mediocre Hacksting run so you deserve this and worse!
Anonymous No.150188082 >>150188134 >>150195280
She really is a one-author character, isn't she? Only Hastings knew how to write her.
Anonymous No.150188134
>>150188056
>>150188082
You mean the run with comedy that is not too fun and action scenes that have little actual action?

You just have shitty taste anon, that run was mid at best, nothing special

You just like the artwork, that's it

Is like when they did a D&D parody and they dind't do anything creative with it, just bland storytelling
Anonymous No.150188161 >>150188214 >>150188258 >>150188547
This dude has been seething in Gwenpool threads for a decade now lmao.
Anonymous No.150188214
>>150188161
I know, right? Imagine spending 10 years whinning that your shitty waifu character always has bad runs

News for you, buddy, she never had a good run, you are just a waifu fag loser!

Wanna read a comic that is actually funny and creative? Tank Girl or Johnny the Homicidial maniac

Both had creative action and comedic scenes, each issue stands out

While Gwenpool is like ''Ohhh this is just like a comic book! Time to fight generic bad guys because that's what happens in comic books tee hee!''
Anonymous No.150188239 >>150188258
Damn, he is actually having a meltdown.
Anonymous No.150188258
>>150188161
I know how to shut you up:

Can you tell me which issue of Gwenpool has a really fun and creative fight scene that is clearly different from your regular Marvel comic?

>>150188239
Well, is he wrong?
Anonymous No.150188284 >>150188308 >>150188539
Now he is samefagging pretending everyone can't see all his posts are formatted the same way. Every day I'm glad I wasn't born in a third world shithole like him.
Anonymous No.150188308
>>150188284
Cope faggot, I'm so glad to have multiple threads of you crying about your shit character

you crying makes my day and you can't even defend the trash that you love

god you are such a loser
Anonymous No.150188312 >>150188342
Gwenpool is a joke that has gone on for way too long past the punchline.
Anonymous No.150188342 >>150188470 >>150188539
>>150188312
Look at the gwenpool fag samefagging pretending everyone can't see all his posts are formatted the same way
Anonymous No.150188409
>>150175221

I'm so glad that my boy Prime is back, showing Gwenpool faggots how its done!

Now this is a character that is well used, specially making something fun and cool with the fourth wall breaking
While Gwenpool is just ''guys, we are in a comic book, guys!'' is Hastings a code name for Kate Leth? Just as boring and bland as her books where nothing happens
Anonymous No.150188447
daily reminder that the original Gwenpool run most of the time has artwork that looks this fucking bad!

Also, did they forget to add jokes and funny scenes?
Anonymous No.150188454
>>150174829 (OP)
Gwenpool fans managed to ride of Spiderman and Deadpools name recongition to get more merch then characters wich existed since the 70s and still complain. The current drought of good comics is terrible but its preferable over getting nothing for decades only to have the comic still be bad.
Anonymous No.150188470 >>150188517 >>150188539
>>150188342
Anonymous No.150188517
>>150188470
>Gwenpool thread
>wow its already dead!
>time to drop my embarrasing edits!

Remember when the gwenpool fag had an obession with Gwenpool saying ''I want to do butt stuff'' and actually posting Gwenpool in diapers?
I wish I was making this out
Anonymous No.150188539
>>150188284
>>150188342
>>150188470

Look, Gwenpool fag! time to jerk off! I hope that the girlfriend that you got during these last 10 years doesn't get too angry
Anonymous No.150188547 >>150188603
>>150188161
>Gwenpool debuted 10 years ago
I’m getting too old for this shit
Anonymous No.150188603
>>150188547
look anon, is your lucky day! We all know how much you enjoy literal shit
Anonymous No.150189095
>>150187972
Probably closer to 2-3 years
>GSB: 2020
>LU: 2023
>This: 2025
Anonymous No.150189137 >>150189175 >>150189429
I've been saying this for years but the only way a character like Gwen works is to make her an unhinged satirical villain like Superboy Prime. They went out of their way to keep her good, and unfortunately there's not very much you can do with that.
Anonymous No.150189175 >>150243263
>>150189137
I feel like that was almost the point of her defeating her evil future self: that the concept works best as an unhinged villain type but Gwen, in-character, would rather be irrelevant than hurting her beloved capes
Anonymous No.150189429
>>150189137
I think Gwen works perfectly fine as a heroine if you use her right. Either
A) Keep the stakes small and personal, related to her friends/family and highlight Gwen as the underdog in most scenarios
B) Hone in on meta-commentary, Gwen criticizing/dealing with things that plague comics like the unshakeable status quo or editorial interference
Anonymous No.150189868 >>150190228 >>150305020
I wouldn't want Gwen to go down the evil route like Prime, thats what makes them fun to contrast. Prime got blackpilled on comics, Gwen is naively, ditzfully hope-pilled on comics
Anonymous No.150190228 >>150190363 >>150190599
>>150189868
Other than her not reading Deadpool (presumably from hearing about Waypool), was the particulars of her getting into comics officially stated?
Anonymous No.150190363
>>150190228
She's an autistic neet whose nerd friends started hooking up with each other leaving her alone to wallow in uninhibited escapism. This is per the gay ass infinity comic where she gets groomed and molested by Julie Power. I don't remember if the exact origin of her comic interest is revealed there, but I will never go back and reread that shit to refresh my memory.
Anonymous No.150190599
>>150190228
It's not confirmed exactly what got her into comics or how early she started reading, my guess would be fairly early though - she uses comics for escapism but I imagine a hobby like that forms in one's youth. Probably got comics from a relative at one point as a child and became hooked is how I'd guess it
Anonymous No.150191651 >>150192378
it's sad the only source of decent gwen content is the textless it's jeff webcomic
Anonymous No.150192103 >>150192132 >>150195144
>>150179013
was just about to say this. Marvel saw they had something people gave a shit about, didn't understand why anyone gave a shit, and flung everything at the wall to keep them giving a shit- ruining the entire initial appeal entirely
Anonymous No.150192132 >>150193287
>>150192103
>reading spider-man and venom double trouble
You think Gwen likes Gurihiru because they drew her or was she a fan before?
Anonymous No.150192378 >>150193556 >>150290503
>>150191651
It's a consistent source of Gurihiru Gwens, I'll gladly take it
Anonymous No.150193211
>>150177427
>>150176838
I remember making the joke a few gwen threads ago, gwen is the first character to become her pet's sidekick
Anonymous No.150193287
>>150192132
I think probably both, they really like drawing Gwen even after Unbelievable finished
Anonymous No.150193295 >>150193437
I liked the dynamic proposed by America Anon back in the day. Where America has next to zero knowledge of pop culture and will believe almost anything Gwen tells her
Anonymous No.150193437 >>150193897
>>150193295
I was excited when I saw this pic assuming they'd come back

But yeah, they kind of made the concept of giving lesbians depth and writing interesting concepts. They were part of some of the best dyke lore on /co/. Seems like they loved doing character studies and making fun headcanons. Didn't they also make america a bit of a social autist overall
Anonymous No.150193556
>>150192378
I'm glad that they love her so much. If only a good writer loved her too.
Anonymous No.150193897 >>150194268
>>150193437
Yes, indeed I did. Though not without reason. The way I see it America Chavez is more akin to a feral child rather than the example you gave. In my interpretation America’s social development was stunted due to her removal from her home dimension at the age of 8. Because of the danger posed by the worlds she encountered afterwards, she effectively grew up on survival skills with all social behaviors being secondary.
Interestingly this actually means that her social skills are very lopsided in favor of keeping herself alive. She’s very good at determining if people want to harm her, capture her, or convincing them to trade/make an alliance for the sake of a common goal. But she’s significantly worse at navigating more low stakes day to day social interactions necessary for life in the modern age
Anonymous No.150194214 >>150194455 >>150196538 >>150209860 >>150217365
>>150176665
Need PG and Gwen having a drink together over their lot in life
Anonymous No.150194268 >>150194394
>>150193897
Yeah, think I remember this and honestly fun way to go about her though the movies kind of steal this idea a bit honestly younger america who is starved for parental figure or some form of comfort is way more interesting than comic america

Giving her a father figure is even funnier as how does a girl that doesn't know what a father is deal with paternal acknowledgement and protection. Really though in the end of the day think she would def have terrible skills as most of her life was either in a utopia or dimension stuff
Anonymous No.150194394 >>150195805
>>150194268
Yeah definitely. What makes current America interesting is that she does still want a parental figure but she’s clearly given up on having one. She’s been abandoned by most people she forms a bond with and sabotages whatever bonds are left. It’s fascinating that the two people she’s closest to are Kate and Loki.
If I’m being honest I would actually really like to see an arc where Kate and America have a brief falling out causing her to lean into her friendship with Loki and start picking up his traits. A lady Loki America arc where she temporarily becomes a portal based trickster could be really cool
Anonymous No.150194455
>>150194214
Both got ruined by Leah Williams.
Anonymous No.150195071 >>150308072
>>150176812
>>150176838
I mean, didn't the same shit happen with Devil Dinosaur? Just grab the Mascot and fucking bury the old partner?
Anonymous No.150195144
>>150192103
>Top left
I just want one last sincere interaction with Batroc and the gang, then please retire the character.
Anonymous No.150195280
>>150188082
It is worse than that; very few US writers know how to handle female characters, except by fridging them.
Anonymous No.150195805 >>150196018
>>150194394
Wait she's close to loki in the comics, and yeah her and kate always felt a bit forced anyway. Basically just the only two of the new girls that lasted and did decently sales and memorability wise and kate better than america who was mostly forgotten until the movie.

Portal based trickster sounds interesting, though I see her going more rick from rick and morty. "Nothing matters, theirs always another dimension" etc, mind set basically that loki it's just a prank vibe. Or more leaning into hedonism and depressive self-destruction because she is with another person who can't be genuine or form relationships and be honest about them.
Anonymous No.150196018 >>150202588
>>150195805
Yeah she’d definitely be a lot closer to Rick than Loki. I only bring him up because I could see her going to him as her last true friend in 616. Truth be told an actual America and Loki arc would probably have her just apathetically going along with whatever he wants until she eventually self destructs.

Bringing the topic back to Gwen I actually had a sudden idea that could be a very interesting storyline. Gwen was able to alter her own backstory to get into college, and evil Gwenpool wasn’t able to permanently kill anyone important. But what if there’s a grey area. What if Gwen realized she possessed the ability to retcon less defined or popular characters. And because the characters weren’t as popular, some changes stick
Anonymous No.150196538 >>150196853
>>150194214
Gwen's not old enough to drink but yeah that actually sounds like a nice scene
Anonymous No.150196575
At this point if hastings didn't write it then it isn't real gwenpool
Anonymous No.150196853 >>150198465 >>150200877
>>150196538
I always thought she was about 18-20 before she got sucked into 616, and even with Marvel time she probably would have hit the drinking age by now
Anonymous No.150197846 >>150198454 >>150202239
I think Gwen is cute.
Anonymous No.150198454
>>150197846
holy shit no way
me too
Anonymous No.150198465
>>150196853
Gwen trying to estimate how much time has passed for her sounds interesting.
Anonymous No.150199010 >>150199121 >>150199819 >>150207502
Gwen in Rivals/Tokon when?
Anonymous No.150199121
>>150199010
Deadpool alternate color is based on her.
Anonymous No.150199819 >>150207502
>>150199010
Rivals feels less likely with each reveal, there's just too many characters they already want to include and while I originally thought Gwen had a solid 'in' with Jeff I'm starting to think he just takes any chance she has at a slot. MIGHT be a DLC host though to voice matches like Galacta

Tokon I actually have a lot of hope for - it seems to focus a bit more on teen heroes like Kamala and Robbie, and being Japan is already big fans of Gwen I feel like that increases her chances further
Anonymous No.150200877
>>150196853
Gwen confirms in Unbelievable and later GSB that she was 19 when she first got pulled into 616, but hasn't aged since because of the sliding timescale.

I like to imagine that Gwen sort of knows she entered in 2015, and has only experienced a few months in real time, but gets bewildered when she looks at a calendar and sees it's 2025 and ten years have passed in the real world in the short time she's been actively aware of herself in Marvel.
Anonymous No.150201022 >>150201213 >>150206345
Why doesn’t Gwenpool have an Onlyfans in the marvel universe?
Anonymous No.150201213
>>150201022
She doesn't want to be cancelled
Anonymous No.150202239
>>150197846
Only in the original run. They don't know how to handle her.
Anonymous No.150202413
>>150174829 (OP)
Because no one writing for her actually understands what made her appealing. They see her for her powers more than they see her for her character even though her real powers didn't even develop until part way through the run.
Anonymous No.150202561 >>150203109 >>150230511
>>150175221
Superboy is how Gwenpool USED to be in Hastings run. Now she's just written by people who don't know shit about her beyond a wiki summery.
Anonymous No.150202588 >>150203828
>>150196018
Sorry didn't see this was sleep by then lol, also yeah definitely self destructive. Depends on which loki assume this is teen or fem teen loki??? if so then they might actually feel bad about well ruining america even more

"Meta Wars" with gwenpool, just her basically killing off and stealing minor hero and villian lores til she ends up evil gwen or ruining the canon of the big series unintentionally. Also in all seriousness their'd have to be some form of negative/punishment because this would make gwen look unfathomably cruel stealing others lives is honestly more evil than killing them sometimes. If done right though could be the greatest gaslight in history like that whole "Kaazam" movie thing.
Anonymous No.150203109 >>150203574 >>150203661 >>150203744 >>150211128 >>150264351
>>150202561
>Now she's just written by people who don't know shit about her beyond a wiki summery.

It's worse than that, if what Heather Antos wrote on the subreddit is to be believed:

>The problem with Gwenpool post Hastings is editorial direction. I had to fight so hard for her. The Gwen you have seen since is the Gwen Marvel always wanted her to be :/
Anonymous No.150203574
>>150203109
Fuck. I usually give Hastings his due credit in establishing the Gwen we know and love but sometimes I forget she didn't have a bad editor keeping things in line back then either.
Anonymous No.150203661
>>150203109
Damn, also the heather antos thing reminds me of the meme of wigga gwen. Truly sucks marvel hates/wants her so bad to be lol random girl everyone hates
Anonymous No.150203744 >>150203878 >>150204020 >>150210215 >>150254539
>>150203109
I don't understand how editorial could fuck her up so badly. Like as much as editorial fucks up Spider-man, you can at least see some semblance of logic where its people who grew up with Spider-man a certain way and can't let that go, but Gwen doesn't even have years of baggage. If that quote is true, its just Editorial being completely out of touch with what she was.
Anonymous No.150203828 >>150208115
>>150202588
Agreed though personally I don’t think Gwen would go so far as to kill people in order to steal their lore. Rather I think she would try to increase her relevance by inserting herself into the backstories of various characters. It would be a slow buildup of her appearing in more and more flashbacks until eventually she accidentally tears a hole in time and space from retcon paradox accumulation
Anonymous No.150203878
>>150203744
>I don't understand how editorial could fuck her up so badly
Out of touch boomers are the lead editors of most Marvel lines.
Anonymous No.150204020 >>150204783 >>150209949
>>150203744
It does kinda feel like they're just throwing random shit at the wall, hoping to eventually stumble across something that'll summon an audience much bigger than the one they had for Unbelievable.
Anonymous No.150204783
>>150204020
>The Gwend!
It's gwover...
Anonymous No.150205209 >>150205249 >>150207058
Gurihiru is what really matters and was there ever more than 4 maybe 5 issues in a row of them doing the art?
Anonymous No.150205249
>>150205209
4 issues was usually the max in a row, then 2 by another artist before going back to Gurihiru
At least as I recall
Anonymous No.150206345
>>150201022
If she wanted to make an OnlyFans she could have just stayed at home
Anonymous No.150207058
>>150205209
It went
>#0-4 (Gurihiru)
>#5-6 (Strychalski)
>#7-10 (Gurihiru)
>#11 (Charretier)
>#12-13 (Gurihiru)
>#14-15 (Haynes)
>#16-20 (Gurihiru)
>#21-23 (Strychalski)
>#24-25 (Gurihiru)
18/26 total
Anonymous No.150207502
>>150199010
>>150199819
i could see her being DLC for Tokon, not so sure about base game though since i she has more of a cult following than a real big fanbase like the other guys
Anonymous No.150208115 >>150208378
>>150203828
I mean didn't think kill more thought she was stealing their lives which was either completely erasing them unintentionally or well ruining their lives. Because well let's say a character got into MIT their would still only be so many spots so she'd have to take their spot, it's like the fairly oddparents "Da rulez" can't take something if it belongs to someone etc.

Yeah that'd also be alarming, since peter and mj are broken up. She tries to become gwen stacy since they keep confusing her as her anyway. She steals everything but gwen's death
Anonymous No.150208378 >>150215756
>>150208115
Could be an interesting direction to take it though once again I feel like it would start off small and grow larger over time with the biggest problems being accidental.
The reason why I suggested this in the first place is because fundamentally Gwen is interesting because she’s a subversion of a common fanfiction trope. The isekai into her favorite comics gone wrong. So I can’t help but feel like some of Gwen’s other stories should try to play off of common fan work elements, though obviously done in more of a Gwenpool way
Anonymous No.150208517 >>150208852 >>150210279 >>150210647 >>150215756
>>150174829 (OP)
>You now remember that time she groomed Julie and almost raped her when she had still the mind of a child and it got her series cancelled for almost 2 years.
> And Julie still hook up with yet another dyke
Anonymous No.150208852 >>150210647
>>150208517
It's okay because Julie counter-raped her remember?
Anonymous No.150209860 >>150211705 >>150211876 >>150213097 >>150217365
>>150194214
>"Do your editors hate you too?"
>"It would explain a lot."

Banged out this crappy little sketch. Currently trying to finish a proper version
Anonymous No.150209910
>>150174829 (OP)
Gwenpool exists in the Hastings run and nowhere else. It is a self-contained story that requires no addition and adequately accounts for what has been created since, equating it to no more than fan-fiction.
Accept anything that does her justice as a treat and ignore anything that fails. The subhuman degenerates at Marvel will never allow her strengths as a character to shine, so there's no point worrying about it.
Anonymous No.150209949
>>150204020
It takes two braincells to understand that Gwenpool has unexploited potential. Unfortunately for editorial, it actually takes at least three to understand when NOT to use her and probably more than four to use her correctly.
Anonymous No.150210197
>>150174829 (OP)
Because she's a shit character that should have never existed, meta shit is never funny
Anonymous No.150210215
>>150203744
Putting marketing and what they perceived as broad appeal over sincerity.
Anonymous No.150210279 >>150210647
>>150208517
It's fine because Julie almost raped her when she got older
Anonymous No.150210647 >>150210713
>>150208517
>>150208852
>>150210279
Why are lesbians so mean to each other?
Anonymous No.150210713
>>150210647
>Why are women so mean to each other
Becuase no one hates women more than other women.
Anonymous No.150210884 >>150213695 >>150214565
Missed a shot to quip a pop culture while also addressing the Gwen obsession by saying "Swimming Gwenpool" here.
Anonymous No.150211128
>>150183693
>>150203109
what a shit show
Anonymous No.150211142 >>150305045
>>150174829 (OP)
The Gwen variants all suck. The fake anime artstyle is also cringe.
Anonymous No.150211705
>>150209860
That's a really cute sketch anon, nice work
Power Girl trying to cheer Gwen up after another rough run feels fitting
Anonymous No.150211866
>>150177691
>somehow getting like a foot taller and very muscular
Sounds hot, pics?
Anonymous No.150211876
>>150209860

we need this
Anonymous No.150213063
bump
Anonymous No.150213097
>>150209860
PG and GP genuinely feel like a solid crossover match for interactions
Both have similar blonde bob-cuts and wear legless leotard costumes
Both come from different dimensions and are trying to fit into the mainline universe
Both have pretty much one run that everyone remembers them fondly for and the rest is a mixed bag
Anonymous No.150213695
>>150210884
>Gwenpool's original cover was Gwen in a POOL
>Her pet is a shark
oooh that just clicked for me
Anonymous No.150214565 >>150216908 >>150220178
>>150210884
Why do they insist on making her not cute?
Anonymous No.150215722
bumpa
Anonymous No.150215756 >>150218771 >>150287288
>>150208378
Yeah fits gwen she's not a intentional dick. This sounds fun honestly think the true death of gwen is the loss of her fans and the creativity of the writers. I remember all the great greens we used to have like the one for a "final" gwenpool story just being her trying to break free of the meta/narrative to live a normal or happy life realizing otherwise she'll forever be killed revived or stay the same age for eternity. Or the other one that somewhat came true about her being connected with a character and that character becoming more relevent and so she becomes her side kicks sidekick aka the jeff situation.
>>150208517
No no you are confused anon gwen is such a loser she got groomed by a 10 year old and almost got raped kek

Still hate that run basically implies gwen dropped out of HS because she was a femcel/cuck. "Oh No My FrIeNdS aRe DaTiNg BeTtEr BeCoMe A sHuT iN" like that really just made asexuals seem some form of autistic or emotionally immature
Anonymous No.150216908
>>150214565
this artist is just hit or miss. i feel like in some panels gwen looked nice then in others she looked like an alien.
Anonymous No.150216945
one last bump
Anonymous No.150217365 >>150217383 >>150217483 >>150218163 >>150218170 >>150243663
>>150194214
>>150209860
>"Whew-what a decade, huh?"
>"You get used to it."
Here's the finished version
Anonymous No.150217383
>>150217365
Based delivery anon
Cheers mates. There's always the next run
Anonymous No.150217483
>>150217365
Blonde girls from alternate universe are destined to suffer in the big two.
Anonymous No.150218163 >>150218192
>>150217365
>"Leah Williams?"
>"Leah Williams."
Anonymous No.150218170
>>150217365
Here's to another ten, Gwen
Anonymous No.150218192
>>150218163
>It can get worse from there...
Anonymous No.150218208 >>150218343
>>150174829 (OP)
Honestly Gwenpool feels like a Moneky Paw wish. You get an excellent character with an amazing design and top tier art with an actually interesting and good story on the Hastings run but know all her comics are absolute trash.

Marvel just did the character as a crashgrab because of that Deadpool variant cover. They didn't pay atention to who was doing the series an accidentally made a perfect match with Hastings-Gurihiru Strychalski was good too on the first series. When Marvel noticed the character was popular after the cancelation they couldn't understand what made it good (I mean, makes sense, they canceled her only good series). So they continued with their modus operandi. Cash grab, cash grab, cash grab.

There's a really sad meta-reading on the Hastings run. Gwenpool refused to do what Marvel wanted and they just killed her.
Anonymous No.150218343
>>150218208
If in another decade if Unbelievable is still the ONLY good run Gwenpool ever had, I'll just be content we will still had Unbelievable
...okay I admit I'd be pretty bummed if she really couldn't get one more decent run in that time but still one damn good run is luckier than others
Anonymous No.150218771 >>150224956
>>150215756
I actually really like the idea of Gwen being a femcel, it fits in too perfectly with the rest of her loser persona. My only gripe was the writer trying to make it look like this ONE THING (being a Gwencel) was the sole reason Gwen hates the monotony of IRL when there are countless other reasons for her to hate it too laid out. She hates school, she hates 'real' jobs, all her friends left for college, she isn't particularly good at anything (at least not anything 'useful') and doesn't find any fulfillment in the banal trappings of reality, which is plenty reason for escapism.

Her love life / being jelly all her friends are getting laid except her is a great accompaniment, it just has no place being the main course.
Anonymous No.150219603 >>150222285
Don't forget to vote for her, Gwenbros
Anonymous No.150219921
>>150177261
Anonymous No.150220073 >>150221289
I'm holding out hope she'll get in Cosmic Invasion, the beat 'em up game, since they don't seem to be going with just A-listers. Even if it's post launch dlc.
Anonymous No.150220178
>>150214565
Marvel comics hate money
Anonymous No.150221289
>>150220073
I have more hope for Tokon given the japanese influence
Cosmic Invasion is another hopeful but I get the sense they're leaning hard into 90's characters with the arcade beat em up aesthetic
Anonymous No.150222285 >>150222937
>>150219603
vote for her in what?
Anonymous No.150222937
>>150222285
I think to Ms. /co/ just started
Anonymous No.150223080 >>150223418 >>150228960
>>150174829 (OP)
I didn’t even know this mini came out until yesterday and I love Gwenpool
Anonymous No.150223418 >>150224303
>>150223080
If you love her, you won't read it
Anonymous No.150224303 >>150224750
>>150223418
a true poole boy would take the good with the bad so he knows the difference
Anonymous No.150224470 >>150224629 >>150224753 >>150226232
Anonymous No.150224629
>>150224470
Blessed new Marik pic provides a light in this unending darkness
Anonymous No.150224750
>>150224303
>so he knows the difference
>Can't spot the bad from a mile away
You're not gonna make it, mate.
Anonymous No.150224753 >>150224776
>>150224470
>the two of us alone on a Friday night?
>however will we pass the time...
>both start up Marvel Rivals and play until 4 AM
Anonymous No.150224776
>>150224753
I'm not playing with a Jeff main.
Anonymous No.150224956
>>150218771
Oh yeah but just prefer it to be more natural, and this exactly prefer the old gwen head canon of her having a loser or almost bratty personality. Gwen is shown to like the easy way out of things and believe she's destined for greatness she basically wants to be the MC and doesn't want to put in the work to find ways to live better and hates those that do. Yep, she basically sucks at everything why I don't like to much gwen wanking in some stuff like her being super good at social situations or being overly confident. Gwen should be fake confident basically tough when things go her way then falls to pieces when life becomes real. Like when miles decked her shit in and left her bruised and confused in prison. She thought they'd be friends because her headcanons and dreams but in reality she was just another crazy bitch to him. It's like those fantasies we have that we would be cool with spider man but in reality we are just some rando to them.

True she has so many other reasons but that being the main one is the classic "lgbt" fandom concept where you make a persons whole back story being gay or some form of lgbt based trauma which as you said is the filling or seasoning not the full meal of a Back story. Also damn reminds me of the classic serial killer/femcel gwen memes
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>>150224470
being a loser isn't so bad so long as Gwen is one with me
Anonymous No.150227368 >>150228777
Anonymous No.150228189
I still don't understand. Marvel got rid of Gwen Poole and replaced her with Gwen Stacey then got rid of any cute drawings of her? I thought she was being pushed into some of the games?
Anonymous No.150228777
>>150227368
no more drinks for you, Gwen!
Anonymous No.150228830
>>150174829 (OP)
This character was always a terrible idea, she should have died when her first series ended.
Anonymous No.150228960
>>150223080
You didn't catch all the 'GWENPOOL IS NOW THE OG GWEN STACY' propaganda that came out in spring?
Anonymous No.150229037
>>150174829 (OP)
Gwen LITERALLY warned you about this. She knows how character writers work. She died at the end of the Hastings run along with all of her friends and got replaced with some weird different version of herself that doesn't act like her at all over and over again. Someday, perhaps, she will have good new adventures again, if someone cares enough and likes the original enough.
Anonymous No.150229074
i think it's true that balancing weapons with absolute in mind would fuck with campaign, which has low enemy counts compared to it from start to finish and you have no real need at all to instagib majoris
perhapsably you just balance campaign and PVE separately pretty sure they already do that anyway. would making absolute its own ecosystem be too severe? desu I think this game's combat systems are kinda fucked for extreme enemy counts in general, kinda turns into parry sim any way you slice it
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Anonymous No.150230511
>>150202561
>Superboy is how Gwenpool USED to be in Hastings run
Didn't he get sent back to Earth-Prime in his last appearance and told everyone to touch grass?
Anonymous No.150231562 >>150232885
I'll always love Gwenpool.
Anonymous No.150232885
>>150231562
same
Anonymous No.150233600
>AH!
>What happened to all my fucks I had to give?!
>I swear I had them right here!
Anonymous No.150235412
bump
Anonymous No.150235555 >>150238010
I like the idea that Gwen learned to take care of herself better after adopting Jeff. She used to be full NEET, no job/education and just read comics and played video games all day while her parents cleaned up after her. Now she's shown cleaning up her apartment and even knows how to cook.
Anonymous No.150236700 >>150240925
Anonymous No.150238010 >>150238091
>>150235555
Where does she get the money?
Anonymous No.150238091 >>150238623 >>150239047 >>150250060
>>150238010
She gets paid for mercenary work
That or she's been mooching off of Kate for the last few years
Anonymous No.150238623 >>150239523 >>150248321
>>150238091
I don't really know much about Kate besides from the Hawkeye show but does she have her own series or one she features prominently in? and if so does Gwen ever show up in it? She seems to have been firmly established as Gwen's closest friend at this point.
Anonymous No.150239047 >>150248204
>>150238091
>That or she's been mooching off of Kate for the last few years
feel like this more often than the former
Kate actually has two pets: 1) Jeff the Land Shark and 2) her bum ass room-mate who doesn't pay rent
Anonymous No.150239523 >>150248321
>>150238623
as much as we tease Gwen for being reduced to a side-kick to her own pet, I think Kate funnily enough is mostly in the same boat - I can't remember the last Kate appearance that wasn't also in 'It's Jeff' (aside obviously from the recent Gwenpool mini)
Anonymous No.150240925
>>150236700
Nice round digits.
Anonymous No.150240934 >>150241765
Anonymous No.150241765 >>150241792 >>150242153
>>150240934
Why does she look like she wants to end it all?
Anonymous No.150241792
>>150241765
Because she hasn't had a good solo writer since 2018
Anonymous No.150242153
>>150241765
She knows the little goober she's holding is more popular than her
Anonymous No.150243263
>>150189175
It's funny that even after being 'redeemed' Prime just 'eh, all of them came back anyway, comic books am I right'.
Anonymous No.150243663 >>150243939
>>150217365
one day i will write my gwenpool in dc fanfic.
Anonymous No.150243939
>>150243663
So what is the loose idea like? Is she as knowledge about about DC, or is she very casual? Does being in a different universe change the way she works?
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Anonymous No.150248204 >>150256346 >>150308072
>>150239047
You mean Jeff has two pets, Gwen the forgotten and Kate the unwanted
Anonymous No.150248321
>>150238623
Yeah kate really was like many of the Female heroines made in that little era of marvel. She was meant to replace hawkeye who most normies barely care about. So she was a knock off of a guy who had a hard time having his own solos the idea was retarded really, but she kept getting pushed like kamala by the fact her creature had a bit of pull in the late 2010s. Now she's mostly unwanted and forgotten, she's best as just "one of the girls or cute teen stuff in Jeff's comic".
>>150239523
Yeah why I joked about them being jeff's pet. He was made as a little joke/fun pet but in the end Jeff is in marvel rivals and is one of the faces of marvel right now. He is definitely more known than either especially before the hawkeye series where I had forgotten kate existed.
Anonymous No.150249434 >>150249682 >>150256373
I'd say a decent animated adaptation could save Gwenpool, but the era for a cartoon to have that much influence over comics ended in the early to mid 2000s.
Anonymous No.150249448
>>150174829 (OP)
Gwenpool shouldn't exist.
Spider-Gwen shouldn't exist.
Anonymous No.150249682 >>150254271
>>150249434
I don't trust a modern animation adaptation of comic books, least of all Marvel under the Feige agenda
Anonymous No.150250060 >>150251336
>>150238091
>That or she's been mooching off of Kate for the last few years
It would be nice if Batroc occasionally put some money in Gwen's bank account because he knows she's kind of a dumbass, but she's a good kid, so he wants to look out for her dumb ass.
Anonymous No.150250952 >>150251336 >>150252569
Anonymous No.150251336 >>150253979
>>150250952
God we need more gwencil stuff, as they really are a bit ironic. Gwen is outgoing but socially autistic and Cecil is more introverted but good at social things and "adulting"
>>150250060
Feel like it's implied Cecil did this basically with his hacking but gwen wanted more excitement and took on the job that got him killed.
Anonymous No.150252569
>>150250952
My cute little girl failure.
Anonymous No.150253979 >>150268573
>>150251336
It's a nice little pairing of someone who dresses more broody/dark (though Cecil doesn't really act that way) and Gwen who dresses way more peppy
Anonymous No.150254099 >>150255425
>>150174829 (OP)
Which mini-series? Anyway, who cares. Everything aside from Unbeliavable look like shit, and the writing is terrible.
Anonymous No.150254271
>>150249682
Does Fiege even give a shit about animation?
Anonymous No.150254539
>>150203744
It's on purpose. They don't want the quality bar to be too high.
Anonymous No.150255425
>>150254099
>Which mini-series?
Its just called Gwenpool.
Anonymous No.150256346 >>150268825
>>150248204

Because of Marvel Rivals, he has Emma Frost now.
Anonymous No.150256373 >>150256414 >>150257847 >>150263234
>>150249434

Marvel should make her into a Vtubber, talking with fans and making reviews and playing games.
Anonymous No.150256414 >>150256744 >>150259086
>>150256373
>Vtubber
Anonymous No.150256744
>>150256414
More like this
Anonymous No.150256958
>>150175221
Superboy Prime was really fucking annoying in that issue.
He was just constantly making meta jokes, like I don't care. I don't want to be constantly reminded that this is a comic book.
>>150175406
He was a villain for quite a while, but then had a brief redemption arc. Then died. Now he's back and likes to consider himself a hero apparently
Anonymous No.150257003 >>150261263 >>150261791
>>150176665
Power girl got done dirty by her last ongoing. It was really bad and completely changed her character for no reason.
Anonymous No.150257847
>>150256373
Even though I hate vtubers I just know Marvel would find a way to make unappealing to even the target audience.
Anonymous No.150259086
>>150256414
Would watch this stream
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Anonymous No.150260237
>>150174829 (OP)
>back to being completely forgotten
GOOD. her original series ending was literally based on the fact she'd get forgotten and live on in fan works better than the shitty shit marvel now does.
Anonymous No.150261263 >>150261791
>>150257003
Does Peeg have any good runs outside of the Amanda Conner run
Anonymous No.150261791
>>150257003
Yeah, it sucks. It's sad and infuriating that that was her big comeback. She was better written everywhere else except the book with her name on it. But at least most writers seem to have ignored it
>>150261263
Most Peej stuff is in team books like JSA and JLE. She's ever only really had one solo (the Winnick run that follows Conner's is a noticeable drop, but the two Sturges issues at the end were a fun return to form imo)
Anonymous No.150263234
>>150256373
I sort of like the idea in concept but I can't imagine an actress/streamer I would trust to capture Gwen in-character
Anonymous No.150264351
>>150203109
Sounds like self-aggrandizing nonsense. There's been no consistent editorial direction. First Thompson made her a jokey-but-not-fourth-wall-breaking part of a team, then Williams made her a bisexual horny prankster and also a mutant, then Whitley made her a loud and proud asexual, now Scott made a pointless where she learned to uh... take things seriously? The same lesson she learned early in the Hastings run? But that's Marvel comics in general, characters learning a lesson then getting reset to factory settings so they can learn it again. What is she specifically objecting to? That no one wanted to write the exact version of Gwenpool that nobody else wrote either because the book ended?
Anonymous No.150264594 >>150265126
at least we'll get a few fun doodles of gwen because of miss /co/ to make up for this crappy mini
Anonymous No.150265126 >>150265287 >>150265798 >>150281257
>>150264594
Remember to vote for her anons
Anonymous No.150265287 >>150265971
>>150265126
No.
Anonymous No.150265798 >>150281257
>>150265126
always do
Anonymous No.150265924 >>150267357
I think they just hate characters who are girlish but not girlbosses at the same time. They heard the phrase "waifu" before and thought it was problematic or something.
Anonymous No.150265971
>>150265287
okay...
Anonymous No.150266405 >>150266928 >>150267337 >>150271058 >>150282796 >>150284620
Ok /co/, you can criticize all you want, but what Would you actually do with a new Gwenpoole series? Give specifics
Anonymous No.150266928 >>150267337 >>150271058 >>150307722
>>150266405
1. Dial back a little on the meta, it's fitting for Gwen but it's been all her major arcs in the last 6 years have been about and since Hastings none of them have been done really clever. Focus more on adventure, bring it back to the adventures Gwen used to go on
2. Focus on smaller, more personal stakes with her circle of friends. For God's sake I still can't fathom why Cecil/Sarah/Tony/Batroc/Teddy haven't appeared in the better part of a decade
3. Give her some new interesting villains to fight. The last few arcs have consisted of Gwen's only real villain being A) herself (and not the cool Evil Future Gwen either) and B) her writer. She had the makings of a solid rogues gallery in Unbelievable (the Squid aliens, MODOK, Vincent, Future Gwen, etc) so I would say try adding to that.
Anonymous No.150267337
>>150266405
She gets assigned a job as a what she calls a "continuity janitor" by mysterious force/agency (she guesses they are Time-Keepers, but she didn't really understood how those worked from what she read). She seems to get this is her current gimmick, even if she doesn't see the point of it. This means she goes out of find an answer for long-abandoned dangling plotlines (Only useless things like who was in the FACADE armor or if Zaladane is actually Lorna Dane's sister or not. Maybe you could make one where what happened with the baby that became Mayday in a different future, but she is horrified by even thinking about doing that and ducks out without establishing it directly), but she gets distracted by strange nonsense and fails to find anything since she is looking for things that are years old from even in-universe perspective. The actual focus of the story are her stray thoughts which are a mixture of what she has observed, what it means to be alive, how she's constantly concerned about her friends and unsure if seeing them puts them at risk, and what she feels might be going through the same lessons. Also being a way to backdoor writing characters I like as guest stars for each issue. It ends with her getting fired, which she expected since she had a 0% success rate.
I'm sure if I wasn't writing it, I'd really dislike it and one like >>150266928 suggests is by far the better approach.
Anonymous No.150267357
>>150265924
they really hate girlish girls.
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Anonymous No.150268573
>>150253979
Think he's more fun as he's definitey the nihilist of the two and I'm sure his nature is what kept gwen alive for so long. As we know he's kind of her man at the computer. Just gwen doesn't listen which led to her arc in gwenpool as she realized she wasn't invincible.

Also added on to the dark him being a literal ghost, but really think similar to batroc his character makes gwen. As he functions as her tard wrangler which helps ground her but allows her to be a bit ditzy and over the top and him more the straight man/voice of reason
Anonymous No.150268825 >>150270082
>>150256346
>Jeff in emma's limo
>"Sorry girls I've got a new mistress"
>Closes window and pulls off
Anonymous No.150270082 >>150270636
>>150268825
Why is Jeff such a slut?
Anonymous No.150270636
>>150270082
You're just jealous Jeff can have any Marvel babe he wants
Anonymous No.150271058 >>150274877 >>150287288
>>150266405
Aside from what >>150266928 said, I'd give her something a lot more grounded. She wakes up one day, realizes she's in her 20's with no direction, and hates it.
There's the angle that she knows a character like that, who can't hold a book and just drifts around, is gonna get mulched at some point. She'll be a Namorita or Black Goliath or whatever, who'll die to make an event move forward and nobody'll care to bring her back. But under that, it's also a pretty relatable struggle for a good number of readers. She's free of the structure that used to define her, she can do whatever she wants, and she's just kinda been bumming around.
I won't pretend that pic related was the crux of the Hasting's run, but it was something people could relate to, and I think that's something she can offer. Instead of fourth-wall breaking adventures trying to make herself relevant, have her just try to reconnect with her friends and get her supporting cast back. Give her something small, something personal, something the reader wants to see her succeed at.
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Anonymous No.150273885 >>150283082
can we have more Gwen and Peeg?
Anonymous No.150274877 >>150276539
>>150271058
Looking back this still is one of my favorite pages in Gwenpool. It explains so much about why Gwen acts the way she does and just makes her human - how many other superheroes couldn't even finish fucking high school? Not for being run out because they were a mutant or a tragedy that set them on the path of a hero, but because they were just that much of a failure?
It kind of makes me feel bad sharing this page because it is rather late into Gwen's run and should probably count as a spoiler.
Anonymous No.150275386 >>150275722
Anonymous No.150275722
>>150275386
>WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETEEEEEEEEEERRRR!!!?!?!?
Anonymous No.150276539 >>150277521 >>150277539
>>150274877
It's a well they've left untapped for quite some time. She didn't fail to save an uncle or get deformed in an accident or anything so dramatic like that; she's a failure in the most mundane, humiliating of ways. There are so many ways you can play with that and her current status in 616, and they just... don't.
Anonymous No.150277521 >>150277647
>>150276539
What happened to her brother?
Anonymous No.150277539 >>150277707 >>150278279 >>150280310
>>150276539
I don't know if it's the sort of story people would like, but I always liked the idea of someone discovering Gwen never finished high school and had to cheat her way into college by retconning her own history, then having a little breakdown where Gwen admits she thinks she's just stupid and other sympathetic characters try to help her earn her GED legitimately.
Anonymous No.150277647
>>150277521
She rescued him on from Mephisto on the last issue of Unbelievable. Not mentioned again on the other series, I guess.
Anonymous No.150277707 >>150278554
>>150277539
Gwen does not strike me as the type of person who would even want to go to college. After all, she could barely finish high school. Why do boring work and studying when you can have fun?
Anonymous No.150278279 >>150278554
>>150277539
And what she would do in College? a point of her caracter is that she fails in life because she dosent have any ambition.
She love her life, but every friend of her grow up.
Anonymous No.150278554 >>150278680 >>150279648 >>150279670 >>150280744
>>150278279
>>150277707
The idea ISN'T that she gets her GED to go to college - she would likely do nothing with it, because I agree her going to college when she abandoned boring IRL reality in the first place
The crux of this idea is to prove to herself she *can*. I feel like Gwen's failures to do something as basic as finish school would be a potential source of drama for her and I like the concept of a girl who thinks she's too dumb to do anything right being given a chance to prove to herself she isn't.
Anonymous No.150278680 >>150279648
>>150278554
Kind of like 'Bart Gets a F' or that Kimmy ep of Symbionic Titan where she breaks down over her poor grades, I like arcs where 'dumb' characters put in the effort to get a passing grade, however barely, and I think that'd fit for Gwen
Anonymous No.150279425
I love my tard wife
Anonymous No.150279648 >>150279990
>>150278554
>>150278680

Gwen could make a enfort to try be a primery school teacher, tinking that will help kids be creative of some shit.
Anonymous No.150279670 >>150282160
>>150278554
She wasn't bothered about it at all during the entire Unbelievable run, just not a big deal.
Anonymous No.150279990 >>150282022
>>150279648
Ms. Poole's art class sounds like it could go off the rails quickly.
Anonymous No.150280310 >>150282160
>>150277539
>I always liked the idea of someone discovering Gwen never finished high school and had to cheat her way into college by retconning her own history
I think that's exactly what she does in the comic where they turned her into an asexual. I think Empire State University is where she meets Julie Power.
Anonymous No.150280744 >>150281377 >>150282160
>>150278554
To be fair, getting a degree and not being able to do anything with it is pretty fucking relatable these days. Extra points if it also saddles her with some sort of cosmic/meta debt she'll be stuck paying off forever.
Anonymous No.150281257 >>150283355
>>150265798
>>150265126
Gwen won!
Next round is Peni though
Going to be tough
Anonymous No.150281377 >>150281643
>>150280744
But why would she do this? One would have to be so smart they're dumb to get isekai'd to the Marvel Universe and decide "I am going to endure the same hardship I could have endured back home."
Anonymous No.150281643 >>150282049 >>150282456
>>150281377
Gwen believes she needs a 4-year degree to qualify to join the Avengers as a sidekick, but it turns out in addition to that they require you to have 5+ years of previous experience on an established superhero team.
Anonymous No.150282022
>>150279990

With is a nice comic.
Anonymous No.150282049
>>150281643
Gwen remembers Marvel NOW and know that the avengers allow underage kids in the team for no reason.
Anonymous No.150282160 >>150282262 >>150284152
>>150280310
I know, I wasn't suggesting it as an idea I was referring to that scene where she cheated her way into college. Between that and failing to even finish high school I figure it'd be enough for someone to call her out on it.
>>150280744
Kek, that could even be the joke. Gwen earns a diploma and is extremely excited only to find out it's worthless, even if she'd planned on using it.
>>150279670
There wasn't time to give that particular detail a lot of attention but she did seem pretty distraught about it when listing her failures. I feel like it's at least potential for a more personal story arc where she's reminded she's a retard, beats herself up over it, and others try to convince herself to try and at least get a GED (which is basically a high school diploma you can earn with just a few tests) so she can prove to herself she isn't as dumb as she thinks.
Again, I get if people aren't into the idea - an arc about watching Gwen study and stress over tests/exams seems hard to make exciting - but I thought it'd be a possible short story.
Anonymous No.150282262 >>150282470
>>150282160
>an arc about watching Gwen study and stress over tests/exams seems hard to make exciting
By itself sure, but if she's trying to balance school and mercenary/superhero work it would work. That's a classic superhero dynamic, she could even make jokes about regretting how she used to think it would be no big deal to juggle the two as a reader.
Anonymous No.150282456 >>150285152
>>150281643
Gwen pool would make for a fun au par if Peter and MJ get back to gether and have kids.
Anonymous No.150282470
>>150282262
We have/had Ms. Marvel for that. Square peg and round hole with Gwen.
Anonymous No.150282727 >>150282796 >>150283604
I typed out 2000 words of my idea but i accidentally selected and erased it all so I'll summarize
>Combo Man sneaks back into the timeline, but before he can fully make his way back into canon, his secret identity, Rick Wilder, who hadn't fallen out of the canon, dies.
>Combo Man wants to have a secret identity again, because without one he shouldn't even exist and he doesn't know what he is.
>He wants Gwen to be his secret identity, because she has a comic, and she met Rick Wilder shortly before he got hit by a bus or whatever.
>Story starts out with a Monster of the Week format, Combo Man using his expanded power-set (Not fully existing affected his powers by making them less defined and thus extending his range of abilities) to create new Combo-Villains who try to capture Gwenpoole for him.
>Gwenpoole has to deal with these guys interrupting her Mercenary job, and eventually she gets fed up and decides to find out where they're coming from.
>We get an issue of Gwen investigating and then tracking Combo Man to Wakoasgatveria, an island Combo Man created by combining abunch of other locations (His combos don't affect the original thing that got combined, they're new entities, to clarify)
>Gwen lands on the island, fights some Hydrakandans and AIMutants
>She makes it to Combo Man, and he reveals his plan to erase Gwenpoole's current Super-Identity from her mind so he can combine himself with her and become her new Super-Identity
>She fights him, talking about how she wants to be her own character. The two fight to a standstill, then Gwen has an idea. She calls for Jeff.
>Jeff forces Combo Man to combine with him, giving Combo Man what he wants and also giving Jeff a new Super-Identity he can transform into: Combo Jeff
Anonymous No.150282796
>>150282727
>>150266405
I also erased my fucking reply woops
Anonymous No.150283082 >>150285119
>>150273885
Any ideas?
Anonymous No.150283355
>>150281257
What would a Gwen and Peni team-up be like? Would Gwen get her own mech?
Anonymous No.150283381 >>150283665 >>150292531
>>150174829 (OP)
Why is it so difficult for anyone but Hastings to write Gwen as a normal teenage girl?
That's like 90% of her character, yet this eludes writers who are even fans of Unbelievable. Is everyone at Marvel retarded? Are they allergic to regular women, or a girl acting like a girl?
It's actually incredible how consistent the problem is given how half the population was a teenage girl at some point.
Anonymous No.150283604 >>150284566
>>150282727
would they even be able to use Combo Man considering he's a food tie in?
Anonymous No.150283665 >>150283707 >>150291112 >>150305848
>>150283381
Leah Williams wrote her as herself. Same musical tastes, same humor, same overwhelming bisexuality.
Anonymous No.150283707
>>150283665
Wish she had written her as the same weight.
Anonymous No.150284152
>>150282160
>Again, I get if people aren't into the idea - an arc about watching Gwen study and stress over tests/exams seems hard to make exciting - but I thought it'd be a possible short story.
Every time Gwen tries to study, there's some superhero emergency that interrupts her. Finally, she comes to the conclusion that this is the writer's way of telling her that getting a GED is a boring story and she figures out how to montage her way into the diploma.
Anonymous No.150284244 >>150284324 >>150284614 >>150288346 >>150298546
Anonymous No.150284324 >>150284614
>>150284244
>another Marik delivery just a few days later
I can't believe it but are we actually eating good again?
Anonymous No.150284566 >>150292346
>>150283604
They've reused him before, as a cameo, same with NFL Superpro, so they can use him. Just don't reference the actual food product.
Anonymous No.150284614 >>150284666
>>150284324
>>150284244
I swear marvel should just hire this guy does he do most of those cool gwen pool little comics?
Anonymous No.150284620
>>150266405
Have her hang around with Loki. God of Stories and a Reader of Stories, in a story. Maybe a third character who is a regular hero to keep the other on track when Loki and Gwenpool get too meta and self aware to actually tell a good story.
Anonymous No.150284666 >>150287760 >>150292518
>>150284614
>does he do most of those cool gwen pool little comics?
yes
Anonymous No.150285119
>>150283082

Gwen and Peeg trowing darts at a Leah Willians target.
Anonymous No.150285152
>>150282456
Gwen would offer herself as a babysitter for the kids so that she can become a regular in a Spider-Man comic.
Anonymous No.150286110
The fact that no Marvel artist other than Gurihiru draws her cute is fucking mind-boggling.
Anonymous No.150286823 >>150287032
Anonymous No.150287032
>>150286823
Peni and Gwen are too pure for this world
Anonymous No.150287288 >>150287652 >>150287792
>>150215756
>Try to appeal to a minority group
>Make them seem like assholes or freaks
Happens a lot, unfortunately.

Honestly, I almost understand why they did that with her, since she's a fan-insert character and having her get together with any actual characters would feel like a mary sue situation. But still, you wouldn't have thought they'd have the balls to close that door since relationship drama is such a big thing in the marvel universe.

>>150271058
They could make it a meta commentary on how many solo runs have really fun supporting casts who to a one disappear into the void after the series is over. What the hell ever happened to Kane/Scarlet Spider's friends? I know a lot of Deadpool support staff show back up from time to time but many just vanish. What happened to Bob? I think something like this happened with Ghost Rider more than a few times too but I can't even remember who in particular I'm thinking of.

But there's surely something you could do there, with her trying to find her old friends.
Anonymous No.150287652
>>150287288
>Ghost Rider more than a few times too but I can't even remember who in particular I'm thinking of.

Well there is a hole block of life when Johnny Blaze was working in a office until the spirit got all mad because of the peace.

But it get worse with all the SHIELD caracters that just desapear.
Anonymous No.150287760
>>150284666
Dude is so much better at writing her than most artist only one that rivals him is gurihiru team and hasting
Anonymous No.150287792
>>150287288
Sad but true indeed also the whole last issue felt like one of those weirdly over done basically a therapy session for the lgbt author/crew. Nothing wrong with being lgbt but I always hate how they stop the whole comic or show on a dime to explain it to everyone. It feels like those cringe old timey P.S.As

Yeah but feel she had cecil or could just have a made relationship. Also not against it and could be a whole arc, she basically perfectly sets up a relationship and is total mary sue and her reality bending/comic meddling to get with her boy crush or girl crush is revealed and she is orced to admit her fault. Or even better have her get with her ideal hero or heroine then realize how weird it feels or how it's hard to truly relate to them because well she used to be real and read about them in her comics etc.

>Hey peter open right now, do gwen x peter kek
Anonymous No.150288346 >>150290536
>>150284244
This part is especially important
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Anonymous No.150289263
>>150174829 (OP)
i dont mind at this point.
i rather have a character i like being completely forgotten to it being ruined or run to the ground.
sometimes you just have to let go, I like Gwen but i think this is a better outcome than to completely flanderize or have a writer that injects his weird fetish or politics into her.
Anonymous No.150290168
2 more months and it will be the 10th anniversary of her first appearance in Howard the Duck.
Anonymous No.150290503
>>150192378
>official gurihiru gwen tummy
It's criminal how long it took for this to happen
Anonymous No.150290536
>>150288346
I like they dont make a big butt, but a nice butt and thicc thighs
Anonymous No.150291112
>>150283665
>normal
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Anonymous No.150292346
>>150284566
Oh okay, cameos can sometimes get away with it, but if they can use him that would be fun
Anonymous No.150292518
>>150284666
Gwenfeet
Anonymous No.150292531 >>150292864 >>150293386 >>150294656
>>150283381
>teenage girl
Isnt Gwen in her 20s already?
Anonymous No.150292864
>>150292531
Presumably by this point, but comic books and aging are funny.
Anonymous No.150293386 >>150300965 >>150301220
>>150292531
No and never will unless they decide to age her up without any of the older people aging. Peter Paker can maybe age one additional year before destroying their theory of how he should always be.
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Anonymous No.150294656
>>150292531
By my best calculations, she’s 20. So yes.
Anonymous No.150294771 >>150294862
Anonymous No.150294862
>>150294771
look at her go
Anonymous No.150295642 >>150296032 >>150297937
Anonymous No.150296032 >>150296774
>>150295642
What's she playin?
Anonymous No.150296774
>>150296032
Her favorite fighter
Marvel vs Capcom 2
Anonymous No.150297937
>>150295642
>the game board's logo is herself
lol
Anonymous No.150298546
>>150284244
This is actually really cool as a reference sheet
I know we could make jokes about Gwen's backside until year's end but truthfully there AREN'T a lot of great angles of Gwen from behind, at least not in the traditional Gurihiru style, so this is nice.
Anonymous No.150299025 >>150299066 >>150299341
Gwen beat Peni. Now she is up against Raven.
Anonymous No.150299066 >>150299341
>>150299025
>Gwen beat Peni
Yeah!
>Now she's up against Raven
Oh boy
Anonymous No.150299080 >>150299341
Rip Gwen
Anonymous No.150299341 >>150299814 >>150309670
>>150299025
>>150299066
>>150299080
Don't give up on her yet, Gwenbros
Miracles can happen
Anonymous No.150299814 >>150299838 >>150300047
>>150299341
I'm voting for her but I don't know, the fact that Gwen is still so fondly remembered after ten years and not a lot of great runs for the most of it sort of already feels like a miracle
I'll take what I can get
Anonymous No.150299838 >>150300047
>>150299814
she cute that's what
Anonymous No.150300047
>>150299838
>>150299814
I'm gonna believe no matter what
Anonymous No.150300965 >>150307880
>>150293386
>"I've defeated Doctor Doom!"
No one asked...?
this is waht gets me the most in these later runs is the dialogue, this doesn't sound like a normal conversation
Anonymous No.150301220 >>150307880
>>150293386
>Peter Paker can maybe age one additional year before destroying their theory of how he should always be.
All the best media in the last few years has had Pete growing up to be a father, literally or figuratively, to someone else. I'm at the point in my life where I'm so on board for Dad Peter.
Anonymous No.150302332
>Get A Load Of THIS Guy Cam
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Anonymous No.150303566 >>150304617
>12 am
Gwensday is here again.
Anonymous No.150304617 >>150304855
>>150303566
Magnifique
Anonymous No.150304855
>>150304617
Anonymous No.150305020
>>150189868
>Eltingville but they're actual capes
Anonymous No.150305045
>>150211142
>fake anime artstyle
Anonymous No.150305848
>>150283665
That seems to be a running theme in her work
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Anonymous No.150307722 >>150309096 >>150309507
>>150266928
>For God's sake I still can't fathom why Cecil/Sarah/Tony/Batroc/Teddy haven't appeared in the better part of a decade
Let's be real here. Can you look at all the Gwen comics in the past few years and honestly tell me the reunion wouldn't be fucking awful? Can you even picture in your head how much they'd fuck it up?

It's probably better to let sleeping dogs lie.
Anonymous No.150307880
>>150300965
Leah just wanted to joke about how Sue fucked Doom during Secret Wars and that was the most elegant way she could do it.
>>150301220
Those are one-offs, you don't get a sustainable ongoing with that premise.
Anonymous No.150308072
>>150195071
>>150248204
>Jeff keeps getting bigger
>Inevitable Jeff cartoon is made
>He's paired with... Spider-Gwen.
Anonymous No.150308085 >>150308319
>>150174829 (OP)
Shit character
Anonymous No.150308319
>>150308085
Lolipool isn't going nowhere and Gwenpool is superior
Anonymous No.150309096 >>150309788
>>150307722
Man, I'm at a point where I'd almost shake the Devil's hand to see them again
Even if they do something retarded it's still seeing the gang, you know?
Anonymous No.150309507 >>150309704
>>150307722
Batroc's been in other stuff since Gwen right? How's he doing
Anonymous No.150309670
>>150299341
well if we are going to loose, let be by the best.
Anonymous No.150309704 >>150310346
>>150309507
He did fuck Black Cat.
Anonymous No.150309788
>>150309096
>Even if they do something retarded it's still seeing the gang, you know?

>Tony dies for shock value on the first issue.
>Sarah hijacks the plot with her new alphabet people plot.
>90% of Batroc's screentime is dedicated to mocking him as Captain America's silliest clown. Gwen joins in on the mockery.
>Cecil introduces cringe romance drama.
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Anonymous No.150310346
>>150309704
Who hasn't fucked Black Cat?