Thread 150176915

PAY VOICE ACTORS WHAT THEY'RE OWED

>>150176915 (OP)
Paying people living wages sounds like such a ridiculously uncontroversial and normal thing to say and yet we still get pushback

Simpsons ruined it for everyone else, and they already had a strike a couple years ago

I, for one, think the hate against ProZD is excessive. He could have gone about it more delicately, but at the end of the day he was just pushing for more diversity, equity, and inclusion in the Voice Acting community.

And voice acting isn't just some skill that anyone of any race with voice-related talented can do - it's a community. A historically marginalized community, so -yes- there is NOTHING wrong with making sure BIPOC roles go to BIPOC people only, while leaving the (predominant anyways) white roles to meritocracy. This isn't "reverse racism" or "shameless regression to segregation" - this is just common sense.

Be better, OP.

>>150177154
>here is NOTHING wrong with making sure BIPOC roles go to BIPOC people only
I do agree with you that the hatred is a bit over-blown, but I don't see why this statement has to be the case. If someone does a good job voicing the character, why should anything else matter/

Why do people keep making proZD threads based on strawman versions of his arguments?

>>150176915 (OP)
>it hasn't even been 24 hours since the last thread of this
Somehow the spam is getting worse these days.

>>150176915 (OP)
ok
>$0

>>150177172
>why should anything else matter/
Because its ridiculously common for white people to voice non-white people rather than vice versa
If it really was a meritocracy, then you wouldn't expect to see such bias

>>150177195
>asmongold

>>150177195
>Asmonjew

>>150177172
Nah I don't believe any of that horseshit click the spoiler bro. Restricting who can voice fictional characters based on race is retarded artistically and in practice is overtly racist, no matter what restorative lens you try to put on it.

>>150177154
>>150177172
Cree Summer gives me a boner every time she voices a white girl.

>>150177195
>chadsmonplatinum

>>150177195
He don't miss

>>150177273
an excuse not to bathe.

>>150177154
Reverse racism isn't real its just racism anon.

>>150177192
Yes you would. The US is majority white, so it's not surprising when most VAs on a project are white.

>>150176915 (OP)
What a fat little bitch

>>150176915 (OP)
Oy, what's wrong with this guy's neck? Did he get his esophagus surgically enlarged so he could eat more?
You oughta start calling his haters Ahab with that whaleload of blubber around his face.
The best part about voice acting is that you don't have to look anything like the character you're playing, which is a major benefit for this guy.

>>150177346
He’ll ether A.) be back or B.) go to botntwitter alternative.

>>150177346
>i said what i meant
>people didn't like what I meant as much as i thought they would
>i'm running to the hugbox over at bluesky
>i will come back in a few months when i find out my posts get no engagement, and the engagement i do get is to out-victim my posts
Such is the cycle of the woke.

>>150177282
That too

>>150177346
Get woke go...

>>150177337
Most VAs are jewish.

>>150177346
So what'd you mean, Mr. ProZD? Because it sounds like you said you want actors to only play the races of the characters, but also that you should be able to play any character.

Like, that's what we got from it. Literally everyone got that from what you said, so it's not our fault if you misspoke.

Threads like these really convince me to scrub away all my prior tweets before debuting my own project

>>150177442
with twitter (and most social media these days) the only winning move is not to play

>>150177442
Just don't say anything retarded. Easy.

>>150176915 (OP)
>*Pays them $0*

>>150177442
>Having social media in the first place
If you don't want people to tell you shut the fuck up, don't yell out the window.

>>150177474
What compels people to say crap like this?
This is just like the Russian story about the fish

>>150177442
Just own up to everything you say. Maybe say "It's what I believed at the time but people grow, you know? We go through stuff, we learn more, we reevaluate our beliefs."

>>150177522
American VAs are genuine hacks, and the sooner the few good ones die of old age, and the rest get replaced with superior over seas talent, the better.

I want Tara Strong to shut up.

>>150176915 (OP)
how did he convince a white woman to marry him if he looks like this

>>150176931
people get paid real wages for worthwhile work. It's only luxury professions that have nebulous "socially constructed" value.

>>150177346
it's funny how bluesky/mastafuck users keep coming back to twitter

>>150177592
White women love silly looking, round and soft shit, like Labubus.
Also, he wouldn't fight back against having his paycheck mooched.

>>150177607
until they stop taking their birth control

150177154
You don't deserve this (You) with such shit bait, faggot

>>150177617
I wonder how many marriages collapsed because of this

>>150177457
conveniently leaving out you're also required to not say anything that could be construed as retarded 5 years out until the death of the internet

>>150177659
>>150177617
While I wouldn't be surprised if this is a thing, I am kind of curious why I've only started seeing this get brought up online this summer.

>>150177617
>>150177659
>>150177692
QRD?

https://desuarchive.org/co/search/deleted/deleted/type/op/
OP both needs, and deserves to be subjected to immediate, involuntary, and indefinite institutionalization.
Also, report him for spamming and ban evading.
https://sys.4chan.org/co/imgboard.php?mode=report&no=150176915

>>150177682
That's also easy. I only ever have good takes that age flawlessly.

>>150177706
Birth control has led to a NTR epidemic throughout the nation. Whether this is based or cringe is yet to be seen

>>150176915 (OP)
I feel vindicated that he's getting a lot of hate now. The twist is that the people hating him now aren't even hating him for the same reason I hate him. I just find his face really punchable.

>>150177710
>7. Submitting false or misclassified reports, or otherwise abusing the reporting system may result in a ban. Replying to a thread stating that you've reported or "saged" it, or another post, is also not allowed.

>>150177195
Yup.

>>150177638
That's Justin Wong. He's a family man now.

>>150177602
>only things I personally value should be compensated

>>150177739
>nooooo, my spam threads are totes not breaking the rules
Copium

>>150177808
Just saying anon. If you want to call out rule breakers, the same applies to you.

>>150177772
>I'm too retarded to attack your real argument, so let me make a strawman instead

>>150177834
Wrong

>>150177944
>Rules for thee, but not for me
Sure. At least it's fitting for the thread topic.

>>150176915 (OP)
>>150177154
I don't care about his little voice acting issue. I hate him because he comes off as a massive cunt in many of his videos. Just look at those "Never ask me these questions again" videos. And he also made that obligatory "waaaah I don't know if I can do this anymore because my views have dropped by 10%" video that always make me lose any respect I ever had.

>>150177706
alright so, from what my middle school told me most birth control pills effectively "trick" the body into thinking it's already pregnant through hormone signals. While pregnant, it's more advantageous for women to be around softer and less "dangerous" guys, so that's who they get attracted to.
Like all hormonal alteratiors, getting off of them causes some severe backlash and moodswing.

>>150176931
The people against it have all their thoughts given to them by big corporations and think tanks funded by said corpos. Same thing with denying climate change and thinking you're a rebel for repeating whatever oil corporations make their favorite talking heads say

>>150178045
That's some nice schizo babble, but the truth is people just think American VAs are a bunch of hacks, who shouldn't even have a job in the first place, let alone be paid for the terrible work they do shit out.

>>150178067
Aight dog

>>150177951
>it's making rules for yourself to purge spamming bullshits
Except no

>>150176915 (OP)
ching chong wing wong numbaaaa

>>150177710
no one cares, people have been making fun of justin wong for decades

>>150178144
So you're only against it because it's spam and not because it breaks any rules?

>>150177442
>he posted online using identifiable information
It's insane to me that it doesn't appall me more how easily the internet shifted from "literally don't tell anyone anything you idiots" to "hello yes here are all my controversial opinions, my name is John Charles Anon and my personal living address is 1234 Fuckwit Lane."

>>150178067
>people just think American VAs are a bunch of hacks
Unless it's Tara Strong, then you faggots goon to her because she voiced your favorite plastic horse.

>>150178255
I remember back in 2007 when it was controversial topic that young people went on to Facebook and basically just gave away all their private information, and then like a year or two later, fucking everyone was on there and would beg me to make one of my own.
Shit was fucking bizarre.

>>150178312
/co/ has been shitting on Tara for years, because her voice is so recognizable and in basically everything, or at least used to be.

>>150177706
Women are biologically conditioned to desire different partners when pregnant due to the innate vulnerability involved. This also has some interesting psychological effects, like apparently women are drawn to men that more closely resemble family when pregnant, possibly some ancient tribal protection instinct: when you are looking to get pregnant, you are drawn to genetic diversity (not racial per se, just men with some distance from you genetically as a pressure against inbreeding), but afterwards you return to your tribe for the actual support during the pregnancy.

Because modern birth control is primarily via the hormonal route, it works by constantly signaling to a woman's body that she is pregnant. This means her brain is always in "find a familiar non-threatening man" mode without her consciously being aware of it.
What happens, then, when they marry/settle down with a guy while on artificial pregnancy brain and then stop taking birth control to get pregnant for real is that their subconscious defaults back to the natural partner-seeking state, which makes them attracted to more masculine, less familiar men. Their sexual interest in their husband wanes because they were essentially "high" on pregnancy hormones all their life since they've been taking fake ones since middle school, and with the sexual attraction removed it kills the relationship and nobody is sure where the "spark" went.

>>150178067
Good boy, lick that boot

>>150178255
>>150178334
It's precisely because all the normalfags started using the Internet. None of them really knew nor cared about privacy, so they readily gave it up. The worst part is how the rest of us who still value it are forced to go along with that, either by necessity (people I know who needed something like a linkedin account) or force (the faggy UK ID verification thing).

>>150178432
>What?! You won't just CONSOOM?! BOOTLICKER!!
lol

>>150178155
It is breaking rules by being spam

>>150178506
And you're breaking rules by announcing reports.

>>150177154
Stunning and brave, me and my trans husband and trans daughter are clapping over here

PS you don't even see the voice actor, his ethnicity or origins are pointless.
It's all about the PRODUCT: does the actor have a good voice tp4pvyhat helps bringing that character to life and telling that story? Then i don't care if the actor is a purple Martian. The cleanest example of this is Samurai Jack

>>150176931
They currently get paid like $50 an hour, for reference.

>>150178510
It's not announcing reports to say people should report spam, dingus

>>150178540
Ah okay, so you didn't report him, but you want other people to do it for you. Gotcha.

>>150177394
And yet, they say it's White people's fault that jewish casting directors hire jewish actors to play non-jewish characters.

>>150178536
Beau Billingslea is another good example, even if it did indirectly lead to the stupid choice of the shitflix adaption of Bebop making Jet black because "his voice was black in the anime even though nobody knew unless they looked up the actor!"

>>150178551
Not even the guy who said to do the reporting

>>150178432
>its bootlicking to hate petit bourgeoisie who are demanding even greater pay for shit that isn't real labor
Newsflash retard, voice acting is unnecessary gig work, you are not entitled to having your whole fiscal year paid for off one job.

>>150177416
That is what he wants. It's not palatable enough to the masses to go full mask off and say: "It should be legal to be racist to White people." but that's what he means. It's kind of like how trans people want to be able to use both bathrooms and changing rooms and pick and choose which one works for them on a whim.
>>150177346
All voice actors ARE given an equal opportunity. What you want is equal results regardless of talent, and no that's not being facetious, hyperbolic, or just plain dunking on him that's what he actually wants. There to be a mandatory rule that he has to be hired X amount of times per year with the justification being: "I'm not White, so I deserve special treatment."