Thread 150227474

Previews for the Spider-Man MtG cards have ended, we now know all the cards.

- The main set: https://scryfall.com/sets/spm (alternate arts listed below normal cards)
- The main set's tokens: https://scryfall.com/sets/tspm
- Cards exclusive to the new player decks and a scene box:
https://scryfall.com/sets/spe
- Reprint cards reusing Marvel art: https://scryfall.com/sets/mar (Cards with two names are pre-existing cards with a Spider-Man name slapped on, so their creature types might not line up 100% with the character.)
- The alternate art promos included with action figures: https://scryfall.com/search?q=%28Anti-Venom+s%3Apmei%29+OR+%28Spider-Man+s%3Apmei%29+OR+%28Huntmaster+s%3Apmei%29+OR+%28Iron+Spider+s%3Apmei%29&as=grid&order=set
Other promos: https://scryfall.com/search?q=set%3Apspm+OR+%28Spectacular+Spider-Man+s%3Apw25%29&as=grid&order=set

As for tournament legality, SPM cards are Standard-legal, SPE cards are only Eternal-legal, and the rest are legal in whatever they've also been printed in.
Cards with a triangle before their name are double-sided, click the flip button to see the other side.
Magic Arena will be getting legally-distinct versions of these cards, since Marvel didn't want to extend the license to digital play. Only three have been revealed so far.

>>150227474 (OP)
the UK spider card art is beyond a joke.
i have no idea why people even want to buy or play (very modern sets of:) mtg anymore.

>>150227521
Why?

>>150227528
thats exactly what i asked when saw the card.

>>150227547
Oh, you're just jerking yourself off. Nevermind, you don't need to speak.

>>150227474 (OP)
>Parker luck
The concept of Peter Parker being super unlucky just highlights how flawless and perfect all the other spider hero characters are.

>>150227559
ok retard.

>>150227474 (OP)
Wait, did they purposely break rules text convention for Spiders-Man?

>>150227720
In what way?

>>150227915
Referring to the card as "they" instead of "it".

>>150227920
All of the legendary cards in this set use he/she/they. They've done that before for some past crossover cards, as well as flipwalkers starting back in 2015.

Is there anyone who DIDNT get a card?

>>150227935
Huh. I thought they moved away from that due to ambiguous language. Guess they changed their minds.

>>150227474 (OP)
https://scryfall.com/search?q=set%3Aspm%2Ctspm%2Cspe%2Cmar%2Cpspm+OR+%28Anti-Venom+s%3Apmei%29+OR+%28Spider-Man+s%3Apmei%29+OR+%28Huntmaster+s%3Apmei%29+OR+%28Iron+Spider+s%3Apmei%29+OR+%28Spectacular+Spider-Man+s%3Apw25%29&unique=prints&as=grid&order=name&dir=
Here's everything in one link if you want to compare different card versions
>>150227967
Uncle Ben

>>150228018
White Rabbit and Swarm were wronged

>>150228069
>Swarm

>>150228098
Oh.
>Evil never dies, it just becomes bees
The fuck kinda quote is that?

>>150228143
the words of an evil guy that turned into bees

>>150227474 (OP)
is this real art holy fuck

The only interesting legendary in the whole set

>>150227474 (OP)
>MtG cards

why isn't Spidey black???

This one looks so fucking bad.
Could they really not have framed this better so that 50% of the art isn't just empty space, taking up the entire center of the art?

fun fact: artist self-reference

The Wall didn't get a card, but you're allowed to use custom tokens in games.
These are all the Wall tokens in the game, save for three: the flying one, the one named Wood, and the one created by Tidal Wave.

>>150228683
It honestly looks like ai. Extremely boring

>>150228984
it really doesn't

>>150228984
The entire set, same with Avatar...

>>150227967
Kindred I think... right!?

>>150229022
>>150228984
It looks ass. Remember how hard they went on a set based on boring ass Assassins Creed.

>Magic Arena will be getting legally-distinct versions of these cards, since Marvel didn't want to extend the license to digital play. Only three have been revealed so far.

the spiderman set is setting up to become a shitshow

>>150229167
Funny thing is most of the UB sets have looked like ass. Warhammer and Fallout looked okay to good (with a select few cards being great), Final Fantasy looked good because most artists were nips and Square had a gun to the back of WotC head on that one, and then you had the abortions that were Lord of the Rings and Doctor Who (latter being the worst offender by far).

>>150229407
Once they have to make art of regular ass, realistic humans in Beyond it goes downhill. Dr Who is the ugliest shit WotC ever printed (besides most Secret Lairs). Can't hate Beyond since 40k are the best precons they ever made to me. I dont see the point in small Beyond sets with no precons though.

>>150228268
Eh, the card draw part is kind of griselbrand-y but otherwise nothing too major.

>>150229407
>and then you had the abortions that were Lord of the Rings

At least LOTR has good cards and also precons (which were boring, one being unplayable in 1v1). Avatar and Spiderman have nothing. Its two Beyonds in a row. Just terrible. Next they will ruin Lorwyn/ Shadowmoor with terrible Daybound-tier transform mechanics, nark my words.

>>150229666
Oh also, FFs price policy and hype were such bs, I had to sell useful cards in order to gather 300+ bucks for the precons. Remember when Commander was 40 bucks each, fixed price? It has become fucking Lego. Pay 80 bucks on 1 of 4 precons where 3 are bad, everytime.

>>150229697
>Daybound-tier transform mechanics
This mechanic could be fixed so easily.
Just have it so that if any nightbound creatures are in play, daybound card enter in that form, and if not they enter normally, and then you only flip them as necessary.
Having to track shit like.
If neither is in play at the end of a turn, it resets back to default, or Day I guess.

Seeing as it can be night/day over multiple turns anyway, I don't get why they want you to keep track if nothing related to the mechanic is in play when a turn ends.

>>150229735
FF prices were bullshit I agree. Friends and I had to spend about $135 Aussie dollarydoos each for our preorder, then post-launch another friend spent nearly $500 just for the normal / non special FF6 one at that was the cheapest. Commander pricing has been fucked for years even before UB but ever since the Warhammer 40K precons it has just gotten worse and worse (both normal and UB precons).

>White Spiderman
>Black Spiderman
>Indian Spiderman
>Pig Spiderman
>Cat Spiderman
>Dinosaur Spiderman
>Bunch of Spiders Spiderman
>British Spiderman
>Gwen Spiderman
>Symbiote Spiderman
>Symbiote Spiderman but Gwen
>Noir Spiderman
>Iron Spiderman
>Punk Spiderman
>Future Spiderman
>D.Va Spiderman
>Doc Ock Spiderman
>Clone Spiderman
>Clone Spiderman but Edgy
>Cosmic Spiderman
>Wheelchair Spiderman
>Spiderman but it's an alternate timeline child of Peter and Mary Jane which we were forever robbed of because of OMD

>>150230195
Yeah its the Spider-Man deck what did you expect, Dr Doom and the U-Foes?

>>150229167
That looks like a lovely villa to reside in

>>150230212
You're 5 years early for Spider-Doom, give or take.

>>150229947
To fix it just use REGULAR transform. Midnight Hunt transform being incompatible with classic Innistrad transform and its support cards was a disaster holy shit.

>>150230123
>>150229735
I might add, I only paid like 350 bucks because I preordered 4 months (!) ahead, seeing the shit coming.

>>150229697
Buddy we've barely seen a third of the main set Avatar cards, and half of what we have seen of the total Avatar cards are from the different beginner set for new players.

>>150232297
Blah.

>>150229695
It's the first legendary with the effect and being in orzhov it's going to be very easy to lower your life total with Selenia or greed, swap it with someone to draw 10-20 and then do it again in a turn or two.
It just sounds very fun to me.

>>150229407
Transformers looked great.

>>150227474 (OP)
Why does Javier Charro have a buttplug next to his name?

Is there a Doc Ock card?

>>150234847
It's the tip of a brush. That's the artist's name.

>>150235325
(Plus any alternate-art versions of those cards)

>>150235325
>3 mana to mill 8
That's actually pretty solid. The additional ability is nice as well, doubly so if they are running Elixir of Immorality to work around the milling.

What's the funniest creature to equip this to

>>150236908
You're mom lol

>>150236908
downright hilarious

>>150227474 (OP)
>>150228268
>>150228683
It's impressive how terrible the art for the Spider-Man cards are in general. Magic's house style REALLY does not work for this franchise in particular.

>>150236936
Oh GOD, what's wrong with his face?! Did they pull a Landis and traced some random shmuck for this?

>>150228268
I prefer Mister Positive

I wish I committed more to reading the MtG novels back in high school. I read The Thran and maybe one third of Brothers War before I had to return the book to the library and then my interest drifted elsewhere.
Modern MtG just looks so lame now.

>>150227474 (OP)
>they gave my boy Lizard a proper legendary card after all. Also best boy Kaine is in and got Rakdos (my favorite color combo)
Eating pretty

>>150227474 (OP)
>only one infinity stone

>>150237835
They already confirmed they're doing multiple marvel sets. Though I doubt it'll be one stone per set since outside of the x-men and MAYBE Avengers, no other hero has a rich enough history for a full set.

>>150227474 (OP)
Wasn't the point of artifacts that they were colourless?
Why would a machine need white mana?

>>150238011
We've had colored artifacts for about 20 years now, anon.

>>150227528
The artist was called out for using AI on the card art, then lying about not using it, blaming WOTC giving him random timeframes and constant 'checkpoints' to show Disney to make sure they approved. The truth behind the bullshit is the AI didn't know how to draw a flag curled up by wind, so it made it look like it was stretched out a dozen feet, then printed again.

>>150237479
Take a look at the inconsistency of the shoe laces and the size of his back leg compared to everything else. It's AI slop like a lot of the set.

>>150229407
The Spongebob one was especially bad, literally just a bunch of meme shit because that's all Spongebob is nowadays.

>>150237541
Now I'm mad they couldn't even be assed to make the card border negative for the original art. If WoTC is going to sell out like this, the least they could do is commit to the bit.

>>150238182
You might be on to something here. I knew something was off about this, but I didn't expect Wizards to stoop THAT low. If it is AI it does look like it was heavily touched up/edited, which makes the glaring mistakes even more baffling.

>>150238040
Does that coincide with how long mtg has been shit?

>>150236936
>>150238182
>>150238182
Looking this up further, I'm not too sure if that's the case. The artist is apparently L.A-Draws, who DOES make art in this style, most of it physical. None of the telltale signs of them being a slop peddler is on their accounts, so they probably just fucked up the piece rather than resorted to AI.

>>150238391
Not really, no. I think you're just schizoing out and looking for things to be pissy about because you lack a real personality.

>>150237881
They made a whole set out of just Spider-Man. Midnight suns, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Fantastic Four could all easily be sets.

>>150238853
>implying any of those c listers are anywhere near the same level of Spidey in terms of history or notable villains
Maybe the F4 (it would just be 90% doom wank bullshit, let's be honest) but otherwise no. No one is going to give a shit about fucking Midnight Suns in general or GoTG's non-movie roster

I don't play nor collect MTG but I bought one of these boxes containing 30 boosters just to see what I get. Kinda hoping for a full Sinister Six, but also guys like Stegron, Spot, and Swarm too.

>>150227474 (OP)
The difference in quality between Spider-Man and the Final Fantasy set is comically extreme. FF was a grand slam but Spider-Man looks like complete ass.

>>150239117

>No one is going to give a shit about fucking Ghost Rider, Dr. Strange, Blade, Moon Knight, Iron Fist, or any of their villains
Spider-Man is probably the only single character that can carry a full set, but they dont need to do that for every set. Midnight Suns would just be the supernatural side of Marvel while Guardians would be the cosmic side, both of which could fill a set.

>>150239680
So you're agreeing with my original point. They aren't going to be able to do six whole sets because there simply aren't enough characters that can carry it. X-Men will get one and then maybe Avengers just because there's been so many and then maybe one more that's just mashup

>>150238303
Wizards doesn't give a shit as long as it's turned in on schedule.

>>150239489
How much did you pay for it? I know Collector boxes are $1k but how much are play boxes?

just make normal nonsports cards for i;m begging u ;_;

>>150239864
Off Amazon this preorder was just under $200. Probably the only Magic set I ever rip, and considering how many packs people normally open hunting for stuff this seemed like the most economical

>>150239825
No, I'm saying there aren't any other single characters who's name they could put on a set, so the others would have to be either teams or categories. There are hundreds of Marvel characters to pull from, it would take them 10 sets to exhaust all their options, the only question is how they're categorize them.
"Maybe Avengers", do you hear yourself right now?

>Super smash bros the card game

Yeah I think it kinda dilutes the idea of MtG to shove all this shit in there.

>>150240062
You think it dilutes the card game about collecting different stuff from across different universes by including stuff from across different universes?

>>150227967
Japanese Spider-Man and Leopardon, Spider-Zero, Lady Spider, Spider-Bitch, Web-Weaver, Paul, Carlie Cooper, Anna Maria, Liz Allen, Max Modell, Normie Osborn, Dr. Kafka/Queen Goblin, Hammerhead, Tinkerer, Jack O' Lanter, Vermin, Kindred, Regent, Shathra, Solus, Knull, Agony, Riot, Phage, Lasher, Hybrid, Toxin, Sleeper, Doppelganger, Demogoblin, Cardiac, Tarantula, Black Tarantula, Puma, Hallow's Eve

In other words, nobody that relevant.

>>150240150
I'm actually surprised that Knull didn't get a card since we got "Grendel, Spawn of Knull".

>>150237881
>>150238853
>>150239117
>>150239680
Way I see it they have several themes ready to go for sets
>X-Men (pretty self-explanatory)
>Magic (Doctor Strange, Thor, Ghost Rider, Moon Knight, etc)
>Space (GotG, Darkhawk, Silver Surfer, Nova, etc)
>Fantastic Four (Doom, Alicia, Skrulls, El Diablo, Mole Man, etc)

>>150239825
I can see an X-Men set, an Iron Man set, an Asgard set, and two Avengers sets for the other five Infinity Stones.
Add a last cosmic/Thanos set for the Infinity Gauntlet and we're off to the races.

>>150240196
What if Knull and "symbiote-ized" heroes is potential future set itself?

>>150240218
I think that space/GotG and Fantastic Four could be in the same set. Also, you forgot about the Avengers.

>>150240019
Nobody is going to buy a set based on like the defenders, anon. Even if they also slop in other c tier teams

>>150240196
I think that Knull is too much of an "Avengers-level threat" for the "Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man" feel they were going for so they're saving him for later.

>>150227967
Chameleon is suspiciously missing.
Or is he?

>>150240307
Obviously not, because the netflix show already ruined that name's reputation and Dr. Strange, Hulk, Namor, and silver Surfer would all be split up between the Midnight Suns, Avengers, and Fantastic Four sets.

>>150240426
Yeah okay, retard. I'm sure that's why and not the fact that no one gives a fuck about them I'm general.

>>150240253
>Also, you forgot about the Avengers.
Isn't that sort of redundant if Captain America, Thor, or Iron Man get their own sets?
>>150240332
No he has a card

>>150240132
You're not even pretending to ask this in good faith, so I'm just going to tell you to fuck off.

>>150240522
>No one gives a fuck about the Hulk or Dr. Strange

>>150240891
No genuinely, do you have any argument for why a game based entirely around having a multiversal setting having multiple universes is a bad thing?

>>150240734
Oh yeah there he is, I missed him the first time. Funny, the art is almost 1to1 the picture I had.

>>150235325
>Human Scientist Villain
>not Octopus Scientist Villain
You had one job

>>150240132
>You think it dilutes the card game about collecting different stuff from across different universes by including stuff from across different universes?
>>150241045
>No genuinely, do you have any argument for why a game based entirely around having a multiversal setting having multiple universes is a bad thing?
Incompatible cosmology for one. Planes in MtG were different worlds in the same setting and canon, not entirely different franchises.

It's like asking why you can't planeshift to the matrix in D&D.

>>150241045
Don't confuse concepts of multiverses. Every plane in Dominia is within the same cosmological strata, swaddled in the Blind Eternities. Planeswalkers can go to any plane. They cannot go to New York, on Earth, because Earth is not within Dominia at all. Nor can they go to Azeroth or Faerun, because those are not among the planes either.

>>150241131
>>150240332
The Chameleon also got a card using that exact artwork in the reprint bonus sheet.

https://scryfall.com/sets/mar

>>150239603
I laughed every time a spidey character got revealed and their effect was some variant of “when this creature enters put a +1/+1 counter on target creature”
They did not give a FUCK about this set lmao

>>150241481
r8 my deckbuild, /co/. Still a first draft so please try to be nice.

>>150241714
Here's suggestions, maybe sideboard.

>>150241714
>a 4 color standard deck
Pretty bad, especially if you're running that many cards with double color pips. You're gonna have a seriously hard time making sure you have the right colors in time for what you wanna use them for.

>>150241344
>>150241452
Okay? The core concept of the the game is still collecting things from different worlds. If you like the in-universe planes better that's fine, and it's fair to be disappointed they'll be getting less focus, but dont pretend adding worlds from existing IPs suddenly changes the nature of the game.

>>150242374
The nature is, in fact, altered. The "different worlds" are all part of the same narrative. Changing IPs changes narratives.

>>150241246
He's not actually part octopus. Spidey gets the spider type because he has spider blood, spider blood, radioactive spider blood, and Green Goblin gets the goblin type because of the goblin serum. Doc Ock is just a guy with extra robot arms.

>>150242374
>>150241045
>>150240132
It's genuinely not a big deal but you know how certain subsets of nerds can be. Combine that with the general doomer menality that makes them have to whine and bitch about everything and they really overhype how much of an issue it is to justify their
>ugh everything sucks...please vote against your interests on the vague promise of making things better for you and worse for those we tell you are the problem...

>>150243897
Like, it's not a big deal in the sense that it's not cancer and apocalypse, but it's still negative and if you're pretending otherwise, you're wrong.

>>150244588
Whatever you say, Bobby.

>>150244812
You're a sophist and a weasel.

>>150244881
Gotcha, Advik.

>>150244588
Except I'm having more fun than ever with magic because I'm getting to play with characters I actually care about.
If you really like the Magic lore and characters that's fine, but I find it much more entertaining to build a deck themed around Captain America than Shwimblo Bimblo, Lord of Kimblo Mountain or whatever, and I say that as someone who's been making decks for 20 years.

>>150245077
>>150244588
I'm okay with worlds beyond but we need more badass looking demons. That's why I play magic and NONE of the recent stuff have had enough

>>150245077
You're allowed to like bad things anon, but diluting a brand's uniqueness is never going to be a good thing.

UB is bad for Magic for a lot of reasons.

Magic: The Gathering as a creative IP works best when it has a consistent and coherent setting. The multiversal aspect of the game is still defined through concepts of mana and planeswalking. While planeswalking changed pre/post mending, the basics of the multiversal setting have always remained consistent across planes. Introducing UB to that multiverse, particularly one that is already its own multiverse and one that includes scientists that are familiar with the concept of a multiverse causes distinct problems in the narrative. Why did Reed Richards never notice the Blind Eternities? Why has no planeswalker ever shown up in 616? Why has no one in 616 ever sparked?

As a game, M;TG works best when designers are not hamstrung by the need to try and create A->B or parasitic mechanics and the need for unique creature types in UB naturally leans toward that. Also, using rulesless 'flavor words' to name abilities hurts comprehension of the gamepieces and adds needless complexity. I personally think it is a sign of bad design as well but that doesn't affect gameplay so much as invite criticism from a design perspective.

As an artistic work, the aesthetics of a card called 'hot dog cart' in what is supposed to be a high fantasy setting hurts the aesthetic coherence and consistency. This is a problem that is not exclusive to UB since a lot of recent M:TG sets (Capenna, Edge of Eternity, Thunder Junction, NeoKamigawa, Duskmorne, and Aetherdrift off the top of my head) have this problem as well.

UB apologists either don't care about Magic and instead care about the IP; are investorfag scum of the earth trying to make money; or are genuinely retarded consumers that eat whatever slop WotC shits out regardless of quality.

>>150245210
Anon, UB stuff is just straight-up not canon to Magic lore, and vice versa. Reed Richards didn't detect the blind eternities because it's simply not there. Relax, dude.

>>150245210
I'll defend the Final Fantasy set for mostly fitting the aesthetics. Both FF and MtG are D&D-inspired high flying fantasy stories. Swords, magic, monsters abound. They are compatible flavors.
You can tell that this guy's a paladin, that guy's an evil sorcerer, that thing is an elemental monster, this is a big destructive spell that kills everybody, the magic crystal artifacts do magic things, the magic swords help your creatures kill things, and so on. It all makes sense.
Sure, you'll complain about the ramen, I know, but it's the only arrow in your quiver.

Few of the other UBs are so elegant, and that is the true shame.

>>150245077
>but I find it much more entertaining to build a deck themed around Captain America
Except we already had half a dozen already established card games for that! Marvel Champions, Marvel Snap, Mission Arena, Hero Battle, Vs System (this one's even a DC crossover!), goddamn WEISS SCHWARZ. You are not starving for Marvel content of all things in the TCG space.

But therin lies the rub. You're not actually interested in Marvel; you didn't just wake up to this news and think "wow, MTG is finally playable!". No, you just want an excuse to be a filthy tourist that shits up an already established space, that you know is popular and beloved solely through cultural osmosis. Only to fuck off and leave the mess you made for everyone else to clean up. Fuck you.

>>150227474 (OP)
I'm just glad my boy got in without any of that Chasm shit. Fuck you Nick Lowe.

>>150245674
>We already have a dozen failed card games that nobody plays! Why dont you play one of those instead of the one you and your friends have been playing for years!?
Wow, why didnt I think of that? Oh wait, I did. I collected Vs. System for years without ever finding a single person to play it with. Meanwhile my friends and I meet for magic at least once every week. Forgive me if I want the characters I like in the game people actually play.

>>150245140
That's why we need a Marvel Supernatural set so we can get Ghost Rider and his villains in.

>>150245674
buddy this is really simple:
captain america: fun
magic's gameplay: fun
fun + fun = 2 fun

>>150245455
>Sure you'll complain about the ramen, I know, but it's the only arrow in your quiver.
You don't know me faggot.
Final Fantasy and LotR were both settings that could theoretically fit well within the established multiverse. WotC, being incompetent, failed on both fronts.

Looking at Final Fantasy in particular, attempts to translate gameplay mechanics causes an anachronistic wedge in the flavor of the game. Cards like 'Battle Menu' do not translate into MtG. It is a cute reference but it does not in any way make sense from the in-universe explanation of me being a planeswalker summoning creatures and casting spells at my opponent. Things like Overkill or the Sidequest cards also suffer from this problem.

Final Fantasy did have some standout successes. I think that summons were executed really well and are flavorful both in MtG and faithful to the gameplay mechanics of the FF games. I like a couple of individual card designs like Absolute Virtue as well.

On the other hand, it is clear that FIN was a bottom up set instead of a top down one and a number of cards have fuck all to do with their flavor and are instead 'cards that we need in the set so let's find a FF property to slap on the art'. Tell my, why Tifa is a landfall card? Why is Sephiroth's Supernova is death by a thousand cuts instead of a big damage nuke or board wipe? Why does the FF1 Warrior Sword use FFXIV mechanics? Why is Lionheart, Squall's ultimate weapon, complete garbage?

The best example of WotC being complete retards in design is Haste Magic. In ATB games, Haste allows you to act more often. How could that be adapted to Magic? Double Strike or additional combat steps. Haste should have given a creature double strike, Haste 2/Hastega could have given the entire team double strike (to symbolize how Hastega is often haste to all party members instead of single target) and Haste3/Hasteja(?) could have been 'take an extra combat step'.

Instead WotC did +3/+1 haste and impulse draw. Why?

>>150246212
Except Ub is actively making the gameplay worse for a myriad of reasons, but hey so long as it has The Brand(tm) it's all hunky dory!

>>150246360
If you and your friends dont like them, just play using the card you like.

Any of your local shops hit hard by supplier allocation?

>>150246341
>it does not in any way make sense from the in-universe explanation of me being a planeswalker summoning creatures and casting spells at my opponent
Yes it does. You're summoning things from a world where combat is turn based and creatures have access to a battle menu.

>>150246554
>>150247126
>just ignore these standard legal cards that are overtuned out the ass bro!
Whatever WoTC is paying you to shill here, it's clearly too much.

>>150245946
Yeah, is nice to see Ben getting some love for a change

>>150248782
>that are overtuned out the ass
You don't play this game.
Spider-Man is the most underpowered set in several years. NOTHING in it is even close to viable, except maybe Hide on the Ceiling, which is.. okay? Just okay. It's a flicker engine tool. Not bad. Not like it's going to bust anything.
In fact, of all UB, the only card at all that's been overtuned is Vivi. A few from FF have been acceptably strong, like Cloud, Sephiroth, Tifa, Ardyn, and Traveling Chocobo, but none of these have done any real damage to any format.

>>150235325
>Whenever Doc Ock attacks, [effect]
>there's one other card that also specifically calls him Doc Ock with the same spelling, but different title after
Does the effect trigger from that too if you have both out? The effect condition omits the full title of the card.

>>150249169
No, that [cardname] effects refer only to the card seeing itself. It wouldn't even trigger off the same card as a separate permanent if you had two on the battlefield (say, because you turned off the legend rule with Mirror Box).

>>150249169
>201.5. Text that refers to the object it’s on by name means just that particular object and not any other objects with that name, regardless of any name changes caused by game effects.
>201.5c Text printed on some cards refers to that card by a shortened version of its name. Instances of a card’s shortened name used in this manner are treated as though they used the card’s full name.

Went through the cards that have the types "Spider Hero", plus the couple of reskin reprints that don't. Here's card counts for each character!
(Note: for doublesided cards, I only used their "costumed" side.)
First up: normal, main guy Peter

>>150249539
Miles

>>150249557
Gwen. Not included: that one card of her in her band

>>150249578
one-offs (not counting stuff like non-hero MJ cards)

>>150249598
other guys with cards with two versions

>>150249619
three versions (plus starter deck 2099)

>>150239603
I guarantee Squeenix was hovering over their shoulders on that set.

>>150249169
>>150249240
>>150249489
Cards CAN refer to other cards by name, it just has to worded as "named [name]".

Apparently WotC couldn't get the digital rights so they had to create a complete duplicate original set to match this without Spider-Man likeness for their online counterpart

>>150249766
We know, anon. That's in the OP.

>>150249169
The effect you're thinking of would say "whenever a creature named Doc Ock attacks..."

>>150228754
you could tell me AI made all of these and i'd believe you, wizards seems to be trying to remove all sense of a personal touch from the artists they commission.

>>150249619
So, is Spider-Woman just a Spider-Man character now?

>>150250802
Despite having nothing to do with him since inception, yeah
Dan Slott did that for Spiderverse IIRC

>City Pigeon x4
>Rent is Due x4
>Common Crook x4
>Taxi Driver x4
>Mob Lookout x4
>Bagel and Schmear x4
>Hot Dog Cart x4
>News Helicopter x4
>Passenger Ferry x4
>Subway Train x4
>Suburban Sanctuary x2
>University Campus x4
>Urban Retreat x2
>Plains x2
>Island x2
>Swamp x3
>Mountain x3
>Forest x2
>Deck name: Ey, I'm planeswalkin' here!

>>150227474 (OP)
>Previews for the Spider-Man MtG cards have ended, we now know all the cards.
>So much Spiderverse slop
It's over, isn't it? This is the new normal.

>>150227562
I could swear I never saw Peter use that line in like 20 years of comics before Slott took over and suddenly he was saying it every issue. It's like it was a gag in the first Spider-Man comic Slotto ever read, and he assumed it was part of the core concept of the character that Peter had cursed-tier bad luck.

>>150228683
I appreciate this one and "Pictures of Spider-Man" referencing memes, but neither of them pull it off well.

>>150240150
>In other words, nobody that relevant.
Some of those villains are more relevant than a lot of the AU losers that got in, Beetle and Shocker are the only Superior Foes to get their own cards, original Beetle isn't there either, yet there are cards for a pigeon and a bagel.

It's not all bad though.
>Norman Osborn can't be blocked
Normanbros, I sense there is great meme potential in this.

White Rabbit, Hypno-Hustler, and Jack O'Lantern cameo.

>>150240150
>Japanese Spider-Man and Leopardon
They would probably have to pay Toei royalties and it wasn't worth it.

>>150249578
>last card
>spawns white warriors
mileskeks btfo

>>150229407
>>150237436
Most UB cards look like shit solely because they don't stick with how their source looks, while the best ones are the ones that actually stick to the source.
>Transformers
Got a guy to emulate the style of the Sunbow cartoon to a T so they look solid.
>Warhammer 40k
Like half of the card art is lifted straight from Games Workshop, and the other half is all pretty much on model (Plus it helps that a bunch of artists like Karl Kopinski have done art for both games)
>Final Fantasy
Aside from the obvious "Japanese artists doing art for the Japanese game" thing, WOTC were probably told by Square Enix to follow certain design guides/criteria for the card art. That's the only reasoning I can think of why even the cards done by regular magic dudes like Jake Murray look fine.
>ATLA
Again, emulating the style of the source material makes the cards look nice.

Some sets fall into a weird half-and-half space where some feel like they're going closer to the source material while some feel closer to Magic's home style (Compare the art for Blanka and Guile to the art for Chun-Li and Ryu in the Street Fighter batch for what I mean). Same with the Hatsune Miku stuff, the cards done by japanese dudes look fine but the ones done by westerners aping the regular Magic style look like crap.

Live Action properties are the worst at this, since they're trying their best to put an actor's likeness on a magic card but it almost never looks good. TWD, Stranger Things, Doctor Who, all of them look like trash with a few exceptions and have that Uncanny Valley look to them. And now it's happening with Spider-Man, where they should have leaned into the comic book aesthetic more rather than just doing "Magic art but in New York with Spider-Man characters".

UB should really avoid doing live action stuff and just stick to adapting shows/games with their own visual style to them.

>>150227474 (OP)
Look at his fucking fingers. HE HS SIX FINGERS ON HIS RIGHT HAND

>>150253745
anon you might need glasses

>>150245367
>Nose

>>150252225
The whole "Thunderbolts" thing feels like Abe would be assigned to something later.

>>150252735
It's a reskin of an existing Magic card. It's also been used for Final Fantasy, Warhammer, and Assassin's Creed crossovers.
Also, Miles has a white card.

The scene cards! This group will be sold exclusively as a box set.

>>150254935
These cards will be in boosters.

>>150254974
Since Gwen and Miles are double-sided, they get an extra scene

>>150240973
Do you actually think people care about their supporting cast? That's the point I'm making, they don't have the sheer number that Spidey and X-Men have. They can't carry an entire 280+ card set