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El Goonish Shive Storytime #31
Going to try to do 2 longish NP stories today
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Unfortunately this probably means there will be no "new" cute girl Hope today

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I could get it to you, but I'd need a minute
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>>150238356
Personal theory what separates Royalty from the other magic users. Is that they can create new spells. Not merely get premade spells from magic.

Seers can do that as well, but do so by research, while Royals innately get magic on some fundamental level.
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Who here would make the trade of weaker magic for a general buff to your body.
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Magister !I46H95akI2 No.150238925 [Report] >>150239045 >>150241910
I don't know why it continuously surprises me that Dan is a two ear truther
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>>150238204
>Petplay Nanase
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>>150238925
For me it depends if the animal ears are in a different spot then a humans, I like them to be added. If they are in roughly the same place I like them to replace.
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>I borrowed it! I swear!
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>>150239063
That really makes no since. Creating Fox is magically intensive, so it great magical training, and while Fox is doing basic chores you can do, be working out or studying.
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>>150238025
>Hily crap you remember it existed.
sensible chuckle.
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The tilt is appreciated.
Magister !I46H95akI2 No.150239251 [Report] >>150239335
Rhoda is the kind of very powerful irresponsible spellcaster this story needs more of
Someone just doing magic willy nilly with no oversight
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>>150238225
My headcanon is that Damian was a summon that is why he though of himself as a higher being instead of a lab grown creature
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If only there was some (magic) way to make this big girl feel smaller
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>>150239251
Yeah pretty sure in Dan's mind Rhoda just using magic at will, without 5 layers of safety and triple checking beforehand makes Rhonda a terrible person.
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>>150239369
Transformation magic in egs is like the least threatening thing in magic can do.
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>>150238667
Nanase has been multiclassing get her!
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>>150239456
I think size change magic as extreme as Rhoda could fly past the normal safety barriers
Like, we know nonconsensual enchantments don't stick, but they still happen
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Magister !I46H95akI2 No.150239634 [Report] >>150239710
No respect for the sanctity of bowling
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Perhaps but you also get a protective barrier around you, on top of the square cube law kicking in. Also you need exposure to magic to build up resistance to it, so keeping it hidden is leaving your friends open to any magical attack. Thou I am giving Rhoda a pass on that since she probably does not know that.
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Nothing going on up there
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Little kids really don't have the strength to send the balls all they way.
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Magister !I46H95akI2 No.150239765 [Report] >>150239854
And from that night forward all four of them were dating
The End
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Kek
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Magic power is stored in the tiddies.
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It is known
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>>150239765
Personally I prefer Lucy, Rhoda, Diane as a threesome. Catalina throws of the vibe, and a foursome just does not work with the different personality's.
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Don't be a nerd Kevin, let Ashley learn Eldritch Blast!
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Camdin cements himself as smarter then like 99% of the cast.

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Everything even mildly problematic must be apologized for at least 3 times.
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I'm glad that Diane is the one person in the group that can talk confidently and without needing to dodge secrets
But we know all this already
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On Rhoda's side here that is the most dangerous way to fall.
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That's a very good question, Diane
I can only assume that the answers lends itself to the working theory that everyone in Moperville is secretly magic

But we'll have to find out later because I'm done for the day!
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Bishop knows the value of the scare them straight tactic.
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I need Lucy teaching Susan how to swordfight.
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Fucking Gishes, coming here taking our Wizard jobs..
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Obviously a retcon. Lucy was just a sourpuss in general. She had no patience for stupidity, weakness, sentimentality or anything that wastes time. She wasn't just mean to Rhoda, she was mean to everyone.
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I'd be more worried about her accidentally Wayne Newton-ing the whole squad. Yeah you might only be smol for hours, but depending on the size that's long enough to get eaten.
Or conversely, turn a toddler into a giant and knock over some buildings.
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Yeah that
Enchantments will go away quick enough if you want them to, but 5 seconds is enough to squish or get squashed
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>VEGET
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Four ears would have a big impact on both balance and environmental perception.

Both positively and negatively probably, but the first time would definitely be a major freakout from being given way too much information feedback.
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I think you'd be getting thet regardless, sudden new sensory input is disturbing. Wonder if shit like that why babies cry over "nothing."
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Explicitly impossible, shrinking includes an automatic force-field protection. And nothing indicates more then at most 4x size.
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Poll Description - Rhoda, Diane, and Lucy. Rhoda, however, was clearly tired of being towered over, because Diane and Lucy now have the same height and figure as Rhoda. It is implied that Rhoda did this on purpose, but is trying to be nonchalant about it. Lucy and Diane's clothes look suspiciously skimpy, implied Rhoda changed them.
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You're going to miss the previews, you dorks.
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I guess that depends on whether or not the magic is "installing drivers" for the new body parts or not.

Babies cry because existence is objectively terrible, it's just fresh for them.
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Dude cadmin, free girlfriend
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>A spell that fixes someone else's lower-back pain while giving YOU huge knockers
It makes sense.
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Halve the sensitivity of each ear then rout the vestibulocochlear nerves throgh the same part of thhe brainstem so they average out to the same as one set (minus a percentage change from positional differences)
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These teenagers are unrealistically kinky, Dan.
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This is like JJK's Heavenly Restriction.
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Didn't they say last time that the chicken guy was in his teens/early twenties?

'Cause he looks like a guy in his thirties.
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>>150238749
Even with the lowering of overall magic, I think would take the trade. It would make exercise both easier and more fun. Assuming at least average level of magical talent.

Greg probably has it at max level. Which is why he never got a beam spell.
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This comic has the weirdest sense of sexyness I've ever seen.
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By which the comic means Dan is not into muscly girls.

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Proof anybody can get any spell if they train to get it. And since the method of getting new spells also increase your magic, their pretty much no limit on how much magic you can get.
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For a comic I criticize so much I really can't stop reading it, that being said something has been bothering me, on paper this comic feels tailor made for me, yet I feel nothing, well feel frustration at the glacial pace but the transformation feel lacking and I finally think I know why. The TF in this TF comic lack physicality there is no poof of smoke, no sequential change, and barely any reaction outside of a wow. Its like an action movie where the punches don't have any impact.
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It is absolutely essential that Greg gets to shoot a beam before the end of the series.
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>>150237859 (OP)
Is Nanase's mother being drawn as skinnier? I guess Dan's 3D program can't really do fat people which is also why Sybil tends to look weird.
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>By which the comic means Dan is not into muscly girls.
You goons make almost as many unsupported assertions as Tedd or Elliot.
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Oh no, Lucy has joiined the "weairs a t-shirt and pants because Dan can't be bothered to draw other types of clothing" crowd.
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>>150237859 (OP)
Ranma went from "I'm a man! you'll never put me in a dress" to "I'm a man but whatever" to pic related.

Speaking of this image, I Dan hadn't declaw Diane with the worse retcon in webcomic history, I think this could have happened with Diane and Susan.
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Catalina is just a shit character in general. It's a good design wasted on one of the most annoying characters in the series.

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Why is Dan so fucking obsessed with this dot eye shit now? It's like his own meme face. Also stop with the "carp" shit. It's not funny, just let them cuss like normal people.

>>150241557
Yeah and that's what made her nice. But like everyone else, joining the Cinnamon Roll Vortex means you can never have anything that could be even remotely perceived by anyone else as a negative personality trait.
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>>150244375
That part of it to be sure.

For me I also see that for one thing, is that transformation just don't happen. You never see anybody using their magic casually, apart from a guy turning into a girl. Just look at Elliot I am sure he has used his ka-girl spell by itself on panel, more then the combined total number of spells Ellen has ever cast. Despite the fact Ellen is supposed to have a far greater talent for magic, and being more willing to use magic for fun, then Elliot.

Second thing is about how people react, or to be more exact don't react to the transformations. Since everybody is essentially have the same person they all pretty much have a sum total of one reaction. Which is always just that cool, and I would like to try it.
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That last panel is like every problem with the comic distilled.

>obvious TF fetish shit
>obviously sexual in nature
>but sexuality is denied
>instead characters are busy agonizing over ethics and apologizing and shit
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How do you call this? this is like the 3rd or 4th time someone apologizes, the other person says something along the lines of "you don't need to apologize or I get why you acted like that" and the other person still apologizes.
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That Ranma's pride showing, now that he has a girl form, he has to be a super good at everything girly. To do otherwise would be admitting to being less then the Best!!!!!; which Ranma's pride would never allow. Not once does ever even imply he wants to keep the curse, to keep his girl form itself. He won't put someone in danger for a chance at a cure, but anything less then death is worthwhile if it means getting rid of the curse, and even Ranma admits he got lucky since he still human just female, while other curses can be much much worse.
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>>150244984
There is the fact that most TF happen in a lab environment so its pretty clinical, you need stakes, the last time there was some TF fun was when Catalina grew cat ears for the first time.

And like you said nothing happens, Cheerleandra doesn't do supehero stuff, Goth and party forms don't go around acting more assertive or free spirit that vanilla Elliot, Tedd stays the entire time in his/her Goon basement instead of going around as fem Tedd .

The only ones who do anything are the side characters.
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>>150245257
At one point Ranma stopped caring that much about a cure, that is why they introduced Ranma's mom, to reignite the urgency or returning to be a man full time.
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>>150245270
>The only ones who do anything are the side characters
And that only happens either in NP or off panel. The main comic consists of people sitting in a circle explaining the plot and or magic system to each other. Often times it's something already explained twice before.
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Another thing is the locations, this comic feels like a live action show, in the sense that there are only like 5 locations and they used them again and again. Back in the early comic you'll see more of the school but now is just ethereal halways that might as well be a void.
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>>150245344
I think Ranma just got used to it. At some point it just becomes part of you, like an arm. Not like he would refuse a free cure no downsides offered.

>>150244983
To be honest
1 - that Ranma reaction is part of the joke, Ranma of all characters acting like that is the punchline
2 - his martial art is called "anything goes", eventually he just do the same with his curse: uses it to his advantage, so he doesn't mind being a shameless slut.
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My main gripe is with the art(seriously Dan, would it kill you to position the eyes so they'd look like the're focusing on the person they're talking to?) but yeah, this is a TF comic where transformations feel almost like an afterthought
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>>150245580
I will be honest, I don't know if it's all the retcons, the overexplaining, the fact it's just WORDSWORDSWORDS so I zone out or just the whole thing actually being poorly thought out and confusing, but ever since Dan got on his magic system autism thing around the time of Hammerchlorians I don't understand 99% of it. It's just a bunch of incoherent babble that means nothing to me and the more it's explained the less sense it actually makes.
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>>150237942
Ashley being a competent wizard.
Well that never happened the 64th

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Ashley getting spells to help people
Well that never happened the 65th.

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Dave and Camdin talking to people they know have magic.
Well that never happened the 66th

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Lucy, Rhoda, Diane and Catalina talking to each other about magic
Well the never happened the 67th.
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>>150239453
Bet on Lucy's last name being lawless. Lucy's never beating the Xena allegations.
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>>150246641
You are not missing much to be honest, the clip notes is that some people get powers by some magic marks, and their magic powers have to do with their personalities or the things they do, the more they do it the more spells of that kind they get.

Everything else is just pedantic extra details that don't affect the plot. or hypotheticals that never happen.
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>>150244068
I would say more sexless.Dan's characters get embarrassed, and blush a lot, but their body language never conveys them being turned on. Dan's art never gives the impress of more then light teasing, anymore as the 3D tracing does not allow for so everything becomes super stiff

And using 3d mockups effect everything from the general tone and personality of the characters. Flattening their ablity to emote and convey personalty. Leaving them rather dull. Just compare those pics to this random pic form the early days. Back when it was still hand drawn, and the characters moved around and emoted much more, just from little head movements.
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>>150247417
I see what you mean, you can see what Justin is thinking by just how he acts. No needs for inner monologues. And the characters are actually interacting with each other in the scene instead of just talking.
Anonymous No.150250295 [Report]
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Anonymous No.150250710 [Report] >>150250834
>>150237859 (OP)
When did Nanase start feeling so guilty for lying to her mom?
Anonymous No.150250834 [Report]
>>150250710
Since before she found out she was gay
Anonymous No.150251313 [Report]
>>150245058
I don't know but currently on /a/ there is a Junji Ito storytime about a guy that apologies constantly and his apologies have the diabolic ability of melting the brain of who receives them.
Anonymous No.150251424 [Report]
>>150232226
I would almost be ok with Lord Tedd getting downplayed if the Uryoms end up being evil all along and a serious irredeemable threat (besides maybe a random one off like Lavender)
>>150234286
Everyone likes parfaits. He just doesn't want to get called gay for it.
Anonymous No.150251464 [Report]
>>150238749
It depends on the magic. While it would be fun to have Nanase/Anime levels of strength/ability, and endurance I think I would still want the magic overall. Especially if I could have some kind telepathy and/or shielding which would basically just replace all the need for a physical buff.

That being said if my power was something like Sarah's, Ellen's, or Elliot's then I would probably take the physical buff.
Anonymous No.150251471 [Report]
>>150243566
He's just ugly
Anonymous No.150251511 [Report]
>>150239045
>>150241910
I think of the animal ears as more ornamental than anything.
Anonymous No.150251585 [Report]
>>150239854
I don't really like any of them except Diane. Catalina is alright, but I don't really need to see her as anything besides a recurring tertiary character like George or something.
Anonymous No.150251616 [Report]
>>150240511
It's irritating how often smelling almost happens and then a character says: "Actually, can we do this later? I just want to do filler right now." Like, he never gets back around to it
Anonymous No.150251634 [Report]
>>150244796
Anon, please. It's been 23 years of him solely subsisting in drawing girls transforming. If he liked miracle girls we wouldn't seen them.
Anonymous No.150251644 [Report]
>>150244983
Need to see the whole issue. Having watched the anime every time something like this comes up there's some crazy extenuating circumstance and hes already made all of the other girls try and fail at doing it first (or he's trying to secretly get something away from the guy that would hurt/embarrass Akane)
Anonymous No.150251657 [Report]
>>150245344
Well, he had met a bunch of other people who all had objectively worse transformations.
Anonymous No.150251671 [Report]
>>150246641
I understand it but honestly kind of tune it out because I know it's almost never going to be relevant