Thread 150259639

How did Sinfest turn into this?

His GF leaving him caused his mind to break

He was forced to work at City Wok

His reward for pandering to the left was that he was their next closest target when they needed a new enemy.
Read pic related.

>>150259639 (OP)
He's been a reactionary letting poison get dribbled into his ear for ages now. He just slips and slides from one rage-fueled subculture to another now. Give it time and he'll find a new loudist and angriest voice in the room to follow and make that his whole personality all over again.

>>150259639 (OP)
He's old and senile at this point, he forgets he isn't white

>>150260164
>Viking
>Literally the word for 'pirate' or 'raider'
>'live in peace'

>>150259639 (OP)
Sinfest is infinitely more interesting when you realize that he's Japanese-American and he's in his 50's by now

I've always really liked his art. Why can't someone hire him to draw stuff that isn't retarded?

>>150260430
Shouldn't be hard to know he's Jap-amurrican when his distinctive name is in the corner of every strip.

>>150259639 (OP)
For a while now I kept saying he didn't change, the left did and that he was a similar situation to JK Rowling
Now though?
What the fuck even are his beliefs?

>>150260430
>when you realize
You mean the first time you ever read a strip? Because him signing them all TATSUYA ISHIDA was a pretty big giveaway.

spite, simple as

I see Tats' mental health is still on the downslope.

>>150259639 (OP)
The twists and turns the comic has taken over the years is like a box of used Christmas lights.

>>150259705
are you insane or something

>>150260430
not really. it's a nice peek into the mind of someone who lives entirely online and has no grasp on reality though.

>>150260246
it actually just means 'sea voyager'

>>150260568
>Because him signing them all TATSUYA ISHIDA was a pretty big giveaway.
weirdly every now and then you have people here arguing that that's just a penname, I don't really know why

>>150260164
>>150259639 (OP)

Last shit I've read for Sinny was that Florida shit

Do y'all ever think about how weird it is that Exodus is quite literally a story about genociding thousands and racial superiority but no one ever questions it

>>150260785
Are you saying Moses is Nazi propaganda?

>>150260785
They got permission from god. Anything goes when you've got a divine mandate.

YOU ARE NOT WHITE
YOU WILL NEVER BE WHITE

>>150259705
40kfaggotry is the most cringeworthy form of autism

>>150260842
It's even worse as a justification because he's an ethnic canaanite god that isn't real. At least the thousands of dead aren't real either... unless you count the last 2.5 millennia of real life

the best part of sinfest is how it proved that feminazis and actual unironic nazis were always ideological cousins

>>150260994
Horseshoe theory has a lot of truth to it

>>150259639 (OP)
Wait is this the same character?

>>150260740
He started in the mid 00s when everyone was a gigantic weeb, having a Japanese sounding penname when you were some 14 year old nerd wasn't that unusual.

>>150261002
No.

>>150261070
>He started in the mid 00s

It's even older than that. He started Sinfest in the early 90s as a print comic when he was a student at Berkeley

It's pretty hypocritical that Tatsuya will condemn the way the Israeli state treats Palestinians while at the same time demonizing Arabs and followers of the Abrahamic religions (including Islam and Christianity, the two most practiced by Palestinians).

>>150260164
>viking
>peace

>>150261540
That's because Tats care more about hating Jews than supporting Arabs

>>150261552
Actually this is more or less true. The Norse were agrarian for much of their history, and their militant religion actually comes from a lack of warfare encouraging a fixation on it. You saw a similar thing happen with the Japanese during the peace of the Tokugawa period, they hyperfocused on "muh samurai, muh death, muh honor" when the ability to engage in such things was in short supply.
The common depiction of Vikings as raiders comes from the climate instability of the late Roman period, when they were forced to leave their farms and seek plunder abroad. And because their targets were Christian churches (who owned a lot of land following the collapse of the Roman Empire) and the Christian monks in those churches were in charge of historical record keeping, the image we have of 'vikings' is skewed. 'Vikings' as a concept doesn't even really exist, as they were just Germanics living in Scandinavia. They're not anything more complicated than that.

Norse Neo Paganism always seemed silly to me because a lot of documents on what we know about Norse mythology comes from a Christian who bothered to record that stuff (and even then he inserted his own Christian beliefs into it)

>>150259639 (OP)
It is a loooong and crazy road.
First Tats became a Obama liberal. Then an anti-porn feminist. Then a TERF Feminist. Then a MAGA. Then became anti-Isreal and anti-both-sides. Then became a Nazi. Now he’s a Aryan Norse Larping Anti-Jew.

>>150261822
Would he get along with Varg?

>>150261796
While it's true that some parts of recorded Norse mythology have Christian influence, other parts are pretty old and indicate past religious conflicts. Like the Aesir and Vanir relationship, which suggest a merging of Germanic and a previous native religion in the past. It was ever evolving, even as it died out.

>>150261822
>Now he’s a Aryan Norse Larping Anti-Jew.

>>150261930
He's Asian dipshit

>>150261903
japs are "honorary aryans" so probably

>>150262007
I am aware of Tats's ethnicity, thank you.

>>150260785
It’s actually the Israelites coping as they get the shit kicked out of them for forty years. Moses picked up a lot of bad habits in Pharoh’s court, and turning defeats into victories was one of them.

>>150262114
not gonna lie, i've never actually seen a yellow asian before, plenty of brown asians (even brown east asians) but never actual yellow-tinted dudes

>>150263054
>>150263054
>Moses picked up a lot of bad habits in Pharoh’s court
The jews were never slaves in Egypt and Moses definitely wasn't adopted into anything.

>>150260560
He's just a different flavor of fucking crazy ever since his batshit feminist turn.

Seems he's skipped MAGA to go straight up National Socialist this time.

>>150261002
Implicitly, but Tatsuya has lost his mind and now believes Christianity is a Jewish plot to make people into porn addicts or something

Reminder that "Tatsuya Ishida" is a fake name, Tat adopted it because he was a humongous weeb for most of his early life, but he's not even Japanese-American.

>>150264975
Proof?
Truth be told, we know jack shit about the guy. No social media, no blog, no nothing. Just the fucking strip.

>>150265005
He used to have a forum on his website, I would browse it back in the early 00s. He posted a tribute to his dad for fathers day or something, bog standard white rural guy with I assume his wife who looked Mexican/Filipino. Maybe his dad was divorced and that was his step mom or something, but simplest theory is he just made being Japanese up like his fake name.

>>150259639 (OP)
>well-poisoner
You gotta hand it to him for bringing out the old-school antisemitism. None of those vagueries about "global elites" and "bankers".

>>150259639 (OP)
Yeah but enough about Phoenician influenced Israel

>>150260524
Having a "japanese name" is a time-honored tradition amongst american weeaboos of his age

>>150261070
>>150261468
And even back in the 90s people realized putting your real name online was retarded. If his real name was Tatsuya Ishida he'd have been doxxed a million times by internet sleuths.

>>150259639 (OP)
So what is happening in the sinfestverse? Wasn't the story about a totalitarian regime of demons and feminists?

>>150260560
i don't think he ever had a jk rowling since the strip at the beginning was pretty neutral stance until he swung far left for rad fem stuff then swung to the right
he's just all over the fucking place
gotta be mental illness at this point

Uh?

>>150265330
That certainly is a picture, a picture of someone who isn't Tatsuya Ishida.

/x/ has entered the chat

>>150265369
Prove it, Anon. Give us hard evidence that "Tatsuya Ishida" is a pseudonym.

>>150265134
you can't just say something like that with literally zero proof. i can say i saw tats and he was half bigfoot and it holds just as much water. schizo.

>>150265383
Give us a shred of evidence that photo is real.
Note "It was posted by Tat" isn't proof.

You are the one making an assertion, you have the burden of proof. I don't have to prove a negative.

>>150265435
so he's neither an asian guy or a weeb because neither can be proven
basado

Wow, it just took a casual search and you can find this photo Tat took of himself, see, he's a real Jap

>>150265278
Anon, it was a print comic at the university he was attending in person. Before weeb culture really took off in America.

>>150265976
Wait a sec, he's been making the exact same strip for over three decades now? No other projects anywhere, just endlessly iterating over the "Sinfest" nameplate?

>>150259639 (OP)
I wish I could be this based, unironically

Tatsuya, are you once again trying to proof you're a TRVE PAGAN ARYAN and make people distract from the fact you're a Jap born and raised in Little Tokyo? The fact you seem to also try and hide your own name in your art says a lot too, Tatsuya.

>>150259639 (OP)
Why are they greek

>>150266085
It's part of a story arc

>>150266024
>No other projects anywhere
He worked in the industry from ‘93-‘96, mostly for Dark Horse. By his own admission he was not very good at it. Still credited as Tatsuya Ishida (just as he was on Sinfest in his college paper in ‘91-‘92) so I’m pretty sure that is actually his name.

At this point I'm honestly starting to think he's not actually serious about any of this and has been fucking with us for years just because he realized he could. All the signs point to him either being a shitposter or a nutjob.

Bullshit. Japan ain't even real.

>>150266145
>He worked in the industry from ‘93-‘96, mostly for Dark Horse.
That's a job he had, not a personal project of his.

>>150266060
>seem to also try and hide your own name
but every strip has his name plastered on it

>>150259682
I don't think he ever had a girlfriend

>>150266517
>>150259682
The whole TERF bullshit reeks of closeted self-hating tranny.

>>150260785
That's just typical of every ancient civilization at that time

>>150266166
I'd genuinely fucking kneel if the last Sinfest strip is a full mask-off "I was just fucking around this entire time lol, trolled" moment. Imagine ruining your entire public perception and making your name tantamount to spoken poison just to troll fags on the internet.

I think Occam's Razor here he's genuinely just a nutter, but IMAGINE.

>>150260785
It's not about racial superiority because race is a modern concept.

>>150266085
Salve, dude!
I love all pagans, they're so chad and noble.

>>150259639 (OP)
Oct 7

>>150266024
>Lover, Legend, Crossdresser
>Crossdresser
Man, I can't remember the last time I saw that word. Also, is the guy actually a crossdresser?

>>150259639 (OP)
The angry jew in the clouds is such a funny image. Taeshi makes good stuff once in a while.

>>150266618
>I think Occam's Razor here he's genuinely just a nutter
Yeah, and this is literal armchair psychology here, but I've seen a LOT of internet crazy over the years, and the more I see of modern sinfest the more it starts to feel like someone pretending to be crazy. Like there's something "off" about the way its "off".

>>150260785
People often joke about old testament YHWH being a war hungry jackass. He very much is.

>>150266703
Tats ain't crazy, he's just incredibly shallow.

>>150260164
I mean that sounds like the most Japanese thing he's ever written to be fair

>>150266710
He's also a loving and merciful God in the old testament too.

>>150265134
>>150265956
This is why I love schizoposters, why would you lie about something that's verifiably incorrect? What's the attempted endgame?

>>150266618
>>150266703
To be fair you'd have to actually be insane to do this regardless, just in a very different way. Like this is basically throwing your reputation, career, and potential at real life job prospects down the drain for decades just to say "lol i troll u".

>>150266736
>loving and merciful God
How? What good has he done? Create life just to punish it the second it does something he doesn't like? He gives can er to children.

>>150266744
Muddying the waters for future discussions.

>>150266744
Some people just enjoy spreading false information for some reason, it's weird and I've never personally understood it but I've observed it enough to know that it must be true. There's a guy I've seen post on here that claims that big lottery winnings are only ever won in California as a means of giving them extra tax money, even though there are tons of huge lottery jackpots won recently where that wasn't the case at all.

>>150266774
Mercifully turning women into pillars of salt for looking back when he SAID NOT TO DAMMIT

>>150266774
>Create life just to punish it the second it does something he doesn't like?
Oh but when MY parents do it it's actually "good parenting", well FUCK YOU DAD

>>150266774
He gives refuge to Hagar and Ishmael.

Craziest thing about Tats is the working schedule. Churning this shit out this consistently for this long without breaks, presumably through sickness, vacations, family events etc, for many years of it in full color ... it's crazy

>>150266862
The secret is that it's mediocre at best.

>>150266539
More people take issue with his TERF comics. A lot of Right wing (& Left-wing) figures after Oct 7 has taken unironic Nazi apologist positions. To the Left, this is surprising because they think that the people who believe that you can't change your gender are Nazi aligned.

>>150266862
It's not like he's busy doing anything else and it ain't exactly like making the Sistine Chapel every day

>>150266883
Most people take issue with the fact that he's got silly putty brain.

>>150266703
>and the more I see of modern sinfest the more it starts to feel like someone pretending to be crazy.
To me, Tatsuya gives the vibes of a chronic 4chan-style contrarian, where at first he simply takes the edgier counterculture opinion, but as he gets older and lonelier (think about that cat and dog he'd draw in his strips here and there, those niggas are super dead by now) I think his brain imploded from never settling down on a genuine viewpoint and now he just bounces from fringe position to fringe position

>>150266873
It's good enough that consistency is still batshit. You may scoff but you can't knock that up in an hour

>>150266910
>it's good enough
No it's fucking mediocre composition.

>>150266902
Aww Pooch and Percival were the main thing I liked back when I read this

>>150266744
I wish I had the kind of ability to laugh at schizos like that. For me at the very best they're annoying and more often than not self absorbed to the point of being impossible to talk to. From what I've seen, every schizo I've talked to has all been incapable of accepting they're wrong about anything and been irrationally hostile to anyone and everyone that suggests otherwise. Anything that you say to them is either proof that they're right or proof that there's either a conspiracy specifically against them.

Everyone knows that Tats was a trendsetting protoweeb, who attended college under a fake name, and hired a random japanese guy to take his place in photos

>>150266982
It's something I didn't really think of at first but genuinely it would really explain why he went even more nuts over time, I'm pretty sure their earliest appearances were before the 2010's and cats and dogs that were around then wouldn't make it till now

>>150266977
Again there's just no way you can pretend making these daily is not impressive. "Oh but the mediocrity of the line width" stfu I'm just saying look this dude did this shit for 30 years daily you can't pretend that's anything but impressive

>>150266166
Eh, it just seems like a midlife crisis meltdown to me. You need to remember that this dude is in his fucking FIFTIES and he hasn't had much claim to fame beyond his webcomic.

>>150266977
>>150259639 (OP)
Like take a minute and actually consider what's going here.
>indistinct background
>static character models
>that 2nd word bubbles suck ass

>>150261703
>Viking raiders is just historical revisionism
>in reality they were a peaceful people who just so happened to spend centuries repeatedly sailing to neighboring nations to murder people and steal their shit
In reality Vikings primarily targeted isolated villages and monasteries because they didn't have a good track record in combat, and usually fled or got stomped when encountering organized resistance because they heavily relied on surprise. Their reputation as fierce warriors is due to the conflation of coastal raiding with actual military campaigns carried out during the first millennium AD.

>>150267013
It's not though, it's literally just the barebones of what a cartoonist does.
>Tatsuya Ishida, technically a cartoonist

On one hand doing this stuff daily is impressive in itself, but I feel like his artwork really peaked around the late 2000's and got steadily worse and more sterile in various ways

>>150266145
>He worked in the industry from ‘93-‘96, mostly for Dark Horse.
Oh shit. Now I remember seeing his name in some books. Didn't realize it was the same guy from Sinfest.

"Tats" had all copies of the 1994 UCLA yearbook, along with the original masters and digital scans, destroyed so that it could never be revealed that he's an inbred white hillbilly.

>>150267092
Sure. This >>150266982 clearly looks better and bizarrely more mature than this >>150260164

I love how much he makes people seethe. Shine on, you crazy diamond.

>>150267211
That's certainly a coward's way of looking at it.

>>150266517
His imaginary girlfriend left him?

>>150267079
No it's insane workhorse ethic and your bizarre need to downplay it just devalues other more valid criticism. I guess every artist who burns out is just subhuman, not even meeting the minimum standard for what a cartoonist is. Stfu retard

>>150267263
>it's insane workhorse ethic
It simply isn't though, these strips have zero effort put into them so it's like the exact opposite of a work ethic.

>>150266024
>tatsuya calls himself crossdresser
that's certainly ironic considering how he freaks out about them now.

>>150267287
Yes they just get willed into being with a shrug. Your need to tear down an artist you don't like is just tearing down all artists. Why not produce a fake tats comic for us in the next 10 minutes since it's zero effort?

>>150266900
Not really.

>>150260246
>>150261552
When you believe everything is a Jewish distortion.

doesn't he AIslop some of his strips now?

>>150267367
Doubt it. He hasn't needed to while churning this shit out for years and years, why should he now?

>>150266688
>The angry jew in the clouds is such a funny image. Taeshi makes good stuff once in a while.
It's also a bit weird because even though he's an anti-semetic caricature, he's often drawn in this goofy harmless way (especially compared to other characters tatsuya draws).

>>150267211
Thing is, I'm not even sure he does any more. He's just a baffling oddity now, the few readers he hasn't managed to drive away by holding one extreme viewpoint or another just waiting to see how this can possibly end. My bet's on the Yukio Mishima ending.

>>150267287
>It simply isn't though, these strips have zero effort put into them so it's like the exact opposite of a work ethic.
>>150267263
>No it's insane workhorse ethic and your bizarre need to downplay it just devalues other more valid criticism.
He clearly has a Buckley tier template. He replaced one comic because the joke was too "subtle".

>>150267358
See>>150267367
He doesn't even draw these strips, he's doing a buckley and using a copy paste tool.

>>150260897
nothing more cringe than taking 40k seriously
if you're not taking in the fun of grim darkness of warhammer
the fags who take it seriously were always those pol/tards from 2016 election
painting Trump as some god king emperor
all they did was elevate a child fucker to be the president and sitting tyrant of the nation

I'm 90% certain a large amount of his comics in the last few years are heavily using copy-pasted assets.
There's a good amount of bespoke drawing still, but he'll often latch onto particular parody character and the next couple weeks will be filled with identical drawings of The Woker or "It" filling panel space. or the same composition of rednecks' trucks floating over the horizon

>>150267429
>>150267431
...you don't have any idea how drawing works, do you? He has art on layers he can move around and reuse, that doesn't mean those drawings are somehow spawned into existence on those layers without effort. Jesus fuck the ignorance

>>150267490
Even if I agree with you anon you kinda just nuked the thread with that post. It's about to get bananas in here.

>>150267502
You did a very bad job at defending Tats as some kind of dedicated cartoonist.

>>150259639 (OP)
>>150260105
>>150260164
It'd be ironic if he somehow did an 180 and started to defend trans stuff and all.
This guy is all over the place, probably the most inconsistent political commentary artist I've ever seen.

>>150267545
Lucky the simple fact that you can point to 30+ years of daily strips with no breaks is all you need to convince anyone who isn't willfully ignorant then

>>150267502
it's not "insane workhorse ethic" when he's probably like doing one comic's worth of new drawings, cranking out the next 2 weeks of comics in an hour with those reused drawings, and scheduling the uploads.

>>150267502
>He has art on layers he can move around and reuse, that doesn't mean those drawings are somehow spawned into existence on those layers without effort. Jesus fuck the ignorance
His art has degraded and so has his writing. Even Buckley was trying to move pass that.

>>150267490
>painting Trump as some god king emperor
It wasn't his fans that made that parade statue.

>>150267545
Actually you've been doing a stunningly bad job of making out even not particularly impressive comics are a breeze to produce daily for a whole lifetime

>>150261002
Strips like this made me sympathetic to him, but he started going way too crazy, and nowadays he is actively attacking christian stuff.

>>150267581
It's literally just the expectation of his chosen career to do that and he's not even really doing that.

>>150267342
Given his radical man-hating feminist phase including hating feminist male allies, and hating men-transitioning-to-women. It's not that improbable for him to be a self-hating tranny.

>>150267608
Anyone with the slightest ability to draw knows that's not what's happening here though. Even understanding the tools he's using. This is peanut gallery "I could totally write a novel in a month" shit
>>150267616
>His art has degraded and so has his writing
Sure, never argued against that, but even at his current level, even if it was substantially worse even, getting daily strips out for this fucking long is STILL AN IMPRESSIVE FEAT and claiming it isn't just sounds like being so blinded by hatred you are denying reality. It's like hating Pink Floyd not because you dislike their composition style or think they play their instruments badly but because they don't write long enough songs

>>150260560
>For a while now I kept saying he didn't change, yeah, no. He totally did. in fact many of the things he's drawn about horse-shoed.

The girl the the last panel with the hat is the one that was a 'sexually empowered' feminist that did all the crotch grabbing and wearing skanky clothes and if you had a problem with it, tough shit, i'm a feminist and i can wear sexy stuff without your approval or rejection or consequence.

At some point she started reflecting this new prudish feminist a few years back. Lots of sensibilities that were starting to resemble ... the other end of views.

and this particular strip reeks of ... well, you know

>>150267637
Anon, that's something less than 5 people have done in history. Schulz, Jim Davis ... who else, even? And they're endlessly praised for it

>>150267801
No they're not praised for that, they're praised for having comics with nationwide appeal.

>>150267831
Yes you can only be praised for one thing and not a facet within it. Dumb pos

>>150267710
Yeah, I don't like his stories and his madness, but I do have to admit his art is good and he does it relatively quickly, which is admirable.

>>150267745
He is inconsistent as fuck in his views, I wonder what's his game in all of this? Does he just spout whatever he feels is right at the moment without giving it proper thought?

>>150267844
His art isn't good though.

>>150260842
They got permission from a fictional character.
But that's okay, because so is Moses. And the whole Exodus story is a work of fiction. So what's the big deal?

>>150267429
>the zombie jew functions as a vampire
>the vampire jew functions as a zombie
at least get your allegories right

WOOOOOOOO

>>150267637
Anon on /co/: lol Watterson only lasted 10 years, clearly not even a cartoonist

>>150267863
basado, this is why i zerk it to lolis

>>150267888
Vampire bites making humans into thralls isn't super common but it isn't a lore error either

I've always wondered how does Tats even make money to live, I really doubt Sinfest makes even a wagie's income

>>150267996
Yeah I've wondered the same. He probably does some other art stuff professionally, or has a more stable job than being an artist.

>>150267745
Jesus Christ say what you mean instead of being a coy faggot, really hate that shit

>>150260560
I think his maga stuff was mostly trendchasing and looking for a "team" to be on, and was just a front while he retained but was more quiet about his "men are evil" core belief.
I'm not certain about his current paganism LARP and open hatred of Christians(Jews), but I think it's half legitimate mask off on the religion hating, and half filtering to appeal to an increasingly specific sub-niche of alternative far right podcasters with the zeus and odin shilling parts.

>>150267844
>He is inconsistent as fuck in his views, I wonder what's his game in all of this? Does he just spout whatever he feels is right at the moment without giving it proper thought?

Obama's election broke alot of people on the left. They seriously thought they 'finally got it right' with getting all the supposedly left leaning minority groups to unite under one umbrella where they would stay forever and all the elections for the next 40 years were going to tilt hard left from then on.

his (and most of the news media's) gushing over the 'bar-rockstar' shows he was at least into the cult of personality going on here.

But after the honeymoon period for the first 2 years, and the actual heavy lifting of politics came back, you could see his inclusion of more of those 'fallen uncle sam' strips, when shit didn't go the lefts' way like they thought everything would. The answer to that of course is that its not their fault, its america itself that requires the lamest of pastiche's of the misanthrope.

the rest of the things covered in strip pretty much unravel from there.

>>150267945
That maybe true but that's not what's being shown there.

>>150268034
Maybe at the end of the day he just feels like he doesn't fit anywhere, so he just jumps blindly headfirst at several different views and sees what clicks the most, what maked him feel the most welcomed. It is hard to say, since we have no actual insight on the type of person he is IRL.

Maybe his current view of paganism larp is due to some positive feedback from the pagan larpers, so he chose to embrace it for now, the same way he did a bunch of stuff before.

>>150260897
says the anon posting on a board filled with autists obsessed with literal toddler shows

I'm too lazy to find the relevant strips for what I'm about to say, but part of Tatsuya's problems really seem to be that he never gets over his perceived failures, i.e. there have been several instances of him seemingly holding a grudge over the fact that he never got an official newspaper comic, when honestly if he played his cards right and understood how the internet really works (and realized that newspaper is a dying medium) dude could've been THE webcomic artist and gotten the last laugh

>First it was the Greeks
>Now it's the Norse
What's next?

>>150268218
The Celts?

>>150262114
Golden Dawn was ethnonationalist, not white supremacist.

I'm lowkey eager to see what new fringe beliefs he pivots to before 2030, I can only imagine what new levels of esotericism that he'll hit

If you're loud and wrong you're guaranteed attention.
Tats is great at both.

>>150267996
He used to work for Devil's Due Publishing in the '00s and early '10s, doing cover art and filler stuff for reprint collections. Don't know if he still does.

>>150268218
The funniest possible outcome would be if he pivots into some kind of Nation of Islam shit. Imagine him drawing Yakub beating up Yahweh.

man, this thread's been up for a while.

>>150266193
It's like what Charles Schultz did besides Peanuts. Sinfest has literally been his job since college.

Schultz had the strip Lil' Folks and some individual strips to Saturday Evening Post prior to Peanuts, the short-lived It's Only A Game during Peanuts early years, the religious oriented Young Pillars for Youth Magazine, and owned a skating rink in case you were wondering.

>>150268183
Yeah, he is skilled and works fast, he could've made it big in the webcomic world... then again, we don't really know what he does for a living. I very much doubt it's just Sinfest

>>150267424
Bro have you read this thread?

>>150266774
NTA, but one has to keep in mind that the era in which the old testament crystalized was FUCKED. Like, sacking a city, massacring all the soldiers/nobility, and enslaving all the women and children was the standard mode of warfare. Banditry was universally common even in the most civilized areas. The standard of governance in the region was somewhere between "dynastically unstable absolute monarchy" and "unstable expansionist slave-state practicing human sacrifice".

So the stories about old-testament god finding a handful of decent people and just smiting everyone else are in a context where a lot of people would have gone "yeah, that's reasonable."

>>150259639 (OP)
>Implying God always sides with the jews even when they are wrong

>>150268534
Yes? I don't know what you consider seething but I think this thread is a pretty tame general discussion of Tats and Sinfest. I don't see any screeching or sperging out going on. The threads after the recent South Park episodes, now those were filling with seething.

>>150268606
There are years worth of theorycrafting about some webcomic that no one reads except /us/ and the person drawing it. This is Dobson-tier.

>>150259639 (OP)
Creator seems to be in a continuous meltdown, and never had anyone tell him that you can just, you know, put literally every single intrusive thought in your head out on the internet where everyone can mock you for it. He's basically a more artistically gifted Dobson.

Has he deleted the oldest strips? Seems like the sort who would.

>>150259705
>read Games Workslop
You can fuck off too. Read Requiem Chevalier Vampire for your heavy metal fix.

>>150268643
I don’t see how that’s “seething” though. That’s just fascination and autism.

>>150268535
>Ashurbanapul did
>W H A T ?

>>150260560
>what the fuck even are his beliefs
From what I've seen he's basically spiralling ever-downwards into being blackpilled. At the rate he's going I'm going to expect Sinfest to start advocating for humanity to go extinct in a few more months.

>>150260785
Quite often. I remember being worried in sunday school when I was told with a straight face that yes, all those Egyptian firstborn deserved to be killed by the angel of death.

>>150260785
I don't think it's weird because I don't think about Bible stories, I don't think about Christians, Muslims, or Jews.

>>150268685
Man you got to really document your war crimes to be carving bas reliefs of them.

>>150260246
Wignats can never reconcile their belief in "high-trust societies" with their kanging about their based Nordic warrior ancestors

>>150259639 (OP)
I think he’s been watching too much Adam Green.

>>150268183
The sad thing was he was genuinely a big name during the webcomics boom of the 00s and 10s. Sure he wasn't one of the top guys, but was fairly popular for someone not shoveling out videogame or SoL comics and frequently praised for his art.

>>150268034
>>150268168
Go back and read early Sinfest. I mean the first five or six years, it was always full of humor that could easily be seen as racist or sexist and apparently the stuff he did while in college was the same or worse. I think it may be a case of a guy whose interests lie outside of polite society chasing whatever group will allow him to drop his filter at least partway.

>>150268112
Assuming a basic left-leaning political ideology, it's also probably due to Obama being 8 years of chocolate Dubya with more gays in practice. That really fucked a lot of people up.

>>150260246
>>150261552
Wignats can never reconcile their belief in "high-trust societies" with their kanging about their based Nordic warrior ancestors

>>150260785
People give that stuff a pass when it happens in ancient times because none of the people who were victims are around to complain about it

>>150268870
"high-trust society" is a euphemism for "no niggers" they've never actually cared about degenerate behavior

>>150267575
I don't want to go all "TERF to Nazi pipeline" but there is logic to his political trajectory. He still keeps aspects of his previous beliefs.

>>150268870
Dumb question. What's a wignat?

>>150260560
The Left didn't change. You're just a terf.

>>150268870
>>150269208
>high-trust society
Is it really? It's a vague term (and questionable i guess) but I thought it described interpersonal trust to some extent. Like you can leave your front door unlocked and people won't steal your wallet if you drop it.

>>150269236
>Dumb question. What's a wignat?
derogatory term for guys like white nationalists/supremacists

>>150270359
they think utopia can be achieved by racial homogeneity, usually because muh japan (which is why a lot of them are weebs). they don't understand that whites can behave like degenerate apes too because they ARE the white degenerate apes

>>150260785
>>150263499
>>150267863
>>150268535
Relevant lawcomic: https://lawcomic.net/guide/?p=7354

>>150267076
It's not "historical revisionism". You're looking at a single snapshot in time and assuming that's the sum total of their history and culture, which archeology has proven to not be the whole story.
>In reality Vikings primarily targeted isolated villages and monasteries because they didn't have a good track record in combat
Which is why they conquered Northern France and Southern Italy, right? Not a good track record? Retard.

>>150261903
>Varg

Reminder that his real name is Kristian lmao.

>>150270440
Seriously?
That's almost as funny as him insisting J.R.R. "IT HAS TO BE LATIN" Tolkien was a secret pagan

>>150260164
I do find it interesting that a lot of these comics have his name covered up. Like he's hiding he's Japanese.

>>150261903
Varg and twinks have a ruinous history. He killed his gay lover and bandmate after he refused to say "no homo", remember.

>>150259639 (OP)
and thats how the ADL was created

when was last time slick and monique appear in the comic? or nerd and demon girl?

>>150270776
Okay that was good

>>150267575
>inconsistent

Not at all. His goal has always been the same: "Ooh, please pay attention to me!"

>>150270776
Pffffff. Yeah, pretty much.

>>150270852
G-d's Chosen People should be free to treat the goyim however we please. You are animals that exist only to be exploited by us.

>>150259639 (OP)
Tatsuya needs to be told to his face Uncle Ruckus will always be whiter than he is

>>150270852
My father started the synagogue in my home town and I need you to understand that the KLAN saying "it wasn't a black guy, it was the kike" is still the most based thing about this story.

>>150267256
many such cases

>>150259705
>Read pic related
I don't have crayons to color in the pictures. Were you about to suggest Blood Meridian next, the only other book you own

>>150260164
They barely lasted a couple centuries

>>150260572
>slope
Language!

>>150270852
>tried to put the blame on a black man
>the fucking KKK of all people defend the black guy
Imagine being so undisputedly guilty that not even the KKK believes the "black guy did it" excuse.

>>150267490
>I was only ironically enjoying retardation
Isn't there a Luther Strode thread you can go jerk off in

>>150260785
>is quite literally
>tips fedora
>m'lady
It's a story about Jehovah murdering the Egyptian pantheon in the background one by one. Each one of the Plagues is a direct reference to a corresponding deity being killed. The most barbaric thing in the entire story is the prospect that Pharaoh was considering releasing the Israelites but "God hardened Pharaoh's heart" just to have an excuse to go to war with the Egyptian gods and the way it's told, I don't think it's implied it was a fair fight, it was a turf war.

>>150270960
>The most barbaric thing in the entire story is the prospect that Pharaoh was considering releasing the Israelites
No he didn't.

>>150260952
>At least the thousands of dead aren't real either...
Our congregation had a retired rabbi in the membership who took me aside and pointed out that the Egyptians were as anal retentive about record keeping as the Germans and there isn't a fucking shred of evidence anything described in Exodus happened, down to even a revolt or migration. He went on to say the slaves building the pyramids weren't worked to death because, get this, they were union labor even if they were only paid in beer, and it would be suicide for the upper class to annoy the people building their afterlife mansions.

>>150270960
>>150270961
In addition God did not harden the Pharoh's heart. Will in context of the Old Testament means allow. God allowed the Pharoh to make the choice of hardening his heart which the Pharoh already did before.

>>150261631
>Tats care more about hating Jews than supporting Arabs
Much the same way that Arab states will excoriate Israel for how Palestinians are treated but absolutely refuse to let any migrate to their own lands. Kind of like Mexico with Guatemala.

>>150268870
>with their kanging about their based Nordic warrior ancestors
hoteps be everywhere

>>150270968
Working on the pyramids (and other civil monuments) was essentially an alternative option for paying taxes, IIRC.

>>150260560
The left was never gonna embrace someone as rich as J.K. Rowling, even if she had kept her transphobia to herself. You can't show up in a leftist community as a billionaire and go "Look, I'm one of the good ones!" No one's that stupid.

>>150270708
of course he was a closeted fudgepacker, 10 years later he'd be a futa enthusiast

>>150260897
It's cringe, but you're telling me that it's worse than half the faggotry on this board? Worse than Sonic, pony-fuckers, and crystal trannies? Me thinks thou doth protest too much.

>>150262114
>no section for Israel
really makes you think

>>150264975
>Reminder
this is a word you use when you can back it up, fucknuts
>g-g-go look it up
suck my dick

>>150265271
For roughly 3 years before they're outed, grow past the age of 16, or write yuri visual novels for other middle-aged white malefails.

>>150265435
>n-no YOU'RE the one demanding proof of a negative!
kill yourself

>>150265427
I was also on that forum. Pull the stick out of your ass, it's your brother's turn to use it.

>>150259639 (OP)
I guess just paying attention to the world

>>150266193
Sinfest has to be his job, dude has been uploading every single day for 25 years without fail (and the art is good), no way he has time for another job

>>150260524
I thought it was a David Wong situation until earlier this year.

>>150260246
Icing on the cake Vikings brought islam to the pagans and Europe while the Catholic and orthodox Churches kept out Islam by not even trading with Muslims in the first place.

>>150267575
>probably the most inconsistent political commentary artist I've ever seen.
Nothing on Tucker Carlson.

>>150268362
Isn't Yakub the bad guy, because he created white people?

>>150261930
INB4 /pol/mutts start mass reporting the thread once people start posting the screenshots of neopagans and white nationalists accounts on twitter being ran by pajeets. Most /pol/ traffic is from india and Israel.

>>150267025
>You need to remember that this dude is in his fucking FIFTIES
I turn 58 in 2 months and I haven't had this kind of a melty but then I'm actually married with an adult kid by now and he's probably got at best a smelly one bedroom apartment to share with his crippling schizophrenia.

>>150268535
What about when Lot's daughters got him drunk and took turns fucking him.
God was cool with that.

>>150268402
I think the public skating rink was the only thing he kept a secret, whoring Peanuts out to Dolly Madison paid for buying the land and constructing the rink. A reporter had asked him why the fucking snack cake ads that ran during the specials if he was financially well off and Schulz said "this is off the record until I die, got it"

>>150266718
there's no sisterfucking or inanimate objects making sound effects

>>150268362
Yakub is several tiers lower than God or Yakub or whatever.
The whole conceit of Nation of Islam is that everyone (read: Blacks) was Muslim to begin with (this is actually standard Muslim doctrine), and thus Allah is a thing and so is everything else in Islam such as Jinn, but Yakub came along as this mortal mad scientist (as Allah willed) and created white people.

>>150271114
>Yakub is several tiers lower than God or Yakub or whatever.
God or Allah
It's late.

>>150266736
>He's also a loving and merciful God in the old testament too
>tortured Job over a bet with Satan, threw a giant fucking hissy when called out on it
>binding of Isaac
>killed people for accidentally witnessing the contents of the Ark
>hardened Pharaoh's heart to have an excuse to massacre the Egyptian pantheon
Speaking as someone raised Jewish, Jehovah is depicted as an angry retard who has to be argued with constantly to behave himself, only the Greeks transcend the concept of "why the fuck would you worship these beings?" Compassion is this thing God does when He remembers to take his antidepressants. And it's not like He reformed Himself in Jesus' time either.

>>150271083
Oh so you don't like hentai is that it

>>150271125
>only the Greeks transcend the concept of "why the fuck would you worship these beings?
The Greek gods were absolute cunts and petty as hell

>>150271125
Maybe you should study theology more, or at the very least ancient philosophy.
http://www.scandalon.co.uk/philosophy/aristotle_prime_mover.htm
It's written that way because that was the style of describing the world at the time.

>>150266862
>family events
>Tatsuya Ishida
"Oh fuck it's Uncle Tats' turn to do the Thanksgiving blessing"

>>150270960
>It's a story about Jehovah murdering the Egyptian pantheon in the background one by one.
Stupid and an outright misinterpretation by the ignorant. Not only is Jewish Kabbalah is based on Egyptian Hermetics, but there are more than just 10 gods in ancient Kemet.
This is the equivalent of saying the story of Jesus driving demons into pigs who cast themselves into the sea is actually about the Romans conquering Judea and pushing the pigs (Jews) out of their territory.

>>150271083
>What about when Lot's daughters got him drunk and took turns fucking him.
You're acting like incest and fucking a cousin wasn't the most common thing in all of human history.
You're kinda forgetting up until the last few centuries most people lived in the shitty squalid village they were born in meaning over time everyone has the same mixed makeup.

Reactions to incest are often illogical and have the same energy as a child complaining about cooties.

>>150267013
literally every cartoonist does this, usually several strips in a burst to build up a backlog you cretin
>but it's stil–
shut the fuck up about things you don't know

>>150267013
>people who work... work every day???? for years on end???
Whatever you think about Tat, this is his job.

>>150267424
>My bet's on the Yukio Mishima ending.
Mishima was an esteemed author to the end, this dickhole is Ben Garrison in different clothing without the courage to end himself

>>150267263
>it's insane workhorse ethic
It's exactly the same ethic every newspaper strip artist has had for a century you blithering nincompoop.

>>150267358
Calm down Ishida-san, all that onions sauce can't be good for your blood pressure

>>150271168
Does Tats have any specific things he's misunderstood and kept using as repeatedly as Ben with the concept "tilting at windmills"?

Though Tats also had a period where he was sucking Trump off like Garrison, but now he depicts him as a fat cartoonish idiot since he's a "Jew friend".

>>150270404
https://youtu.be/hvd15Nj_Pzg
This is my look into Tats' political trajectory.
>90's Liberal/Libertarian
>"edgy", somewhat disappointed at the Christian God but recognizes that Satan the easy but self-destructive path

>Feminism
>Monique takes over, blame everything on men

>TERF
>blame everything on MEN

>MAGA
>he realizes that feminism isn't good for men or women
>fell in love with the chad meme

>Nazi
>decided to blame the Jews for everything

>Nazi Pagan
>Christianity is Jewish & paganism is White
>hates God(1), associated the witches with his persecution complex of women and Whites (2) (3), his love of "pagan values" (4) ie saying that you are strong and pretty thus correct, rejection of the Christian moral system (1)(4)(5)

>>150263787
>>150268034
He did had a MAGA phase but he decided that Trump was too Jewish.

>>150267745
>>150268030
>>150266539
>>150267677
>muh egg
https://youtu.be/JWEHwHP5Yd8?t=3970
I'm not ruling it out but this feels really myoptic.

>>150268318
>Devil's Due Publishing
https://devildealer.myshopify.com/collections/trade-paperbacks-ogns/products/mercy-sparx-omnibus-1-hardcover
timmyturnerpraying.jpg

>>150268183
>i.e. there have been several instances of him seemingly holding a grudge over the fact that he never got an official newspaper comic
The bit with Slick and Monique walking off-panel as they're changing into Calvin and Hobbes costumes always stuck with me

>>150268274
>what new fringe beliefs he pivots to before 2030
He'll stroke out with enough of a backlog that we won't know until 2 months later and some pitiful blog entry

>>150268399
we are blessed

>>150271148
>Reactions to incest are often illogical and have the same energy as a child complaining about cooties.
Oooh ooh do the age of consent next

>>150271206
He had a socialist phase before the radfem phase where Satan was aligned with the Bilderberg group and stuff.

>>150271054
He was blameless

>>150271245
this is absolutely his palette, his lighting and shading

>>150271303
>where Satan was aligned with the Bilderberg group
was this when he was struggling to make "banksta" a thing

>>150271331
Pretty much. Slick punches out the monopoly man. This was during the subprime mortgage crisis so there was nothing really weird about it in context.

>>150271054
Yes, thinking that black cults worship him or something is a misconception similar to thinking that Scientologists worship Xenu.

>>150271245
DDP still exists?

>>150271401
I just know the names, I'm not going to waste any brain cells on remembering the batshit mythology that goes along with it.

Wish that Tats took this as his next schizo jump

>hyper sex-negative feminist
>terf that suddenly hates woke as if being extremely sex-negative didn't make him the image of woke
>putting jewish caricatures in his comics
I think this nigga's political affiliation can be described as "mentally ill"

>>150271206
I'm saying that Tats is a visual thinker and he seems to deeply resonate with the "chad" meme. His Sunday strips is usually full of (not subtle) imagery. Real History is messy; it is easier to throw it all out and replace it with a narrative where one side is perfect and the other side just smeared the other side completely. The Pagans and Nazis have an unapologetically "strong" culture imagery coupled with an oppressed image.

Ideology is absolutely retarded since there isn't a worldview that fulfill the three psychological needs. People force ideology to work using Praxis but people need to dumb it down further. This leads to "aesthetics" or feelings. The Left has the Eternal Rebel™ meme and the Right has the Chad™ meme.

>>150271526
He hasn't acknowledge his Japanese heritage in a while but it isn't hard since Japan sided with the Nazis. Still Japan came out of WW2 better than most countries of the Americans so it would be harder to go all victim complex there besides the nuke stuff.

>sinfest
>dilbert
any other instances of cartoonists snapping and declaring war on their readers?

>>150271083
No He wasn't actually, that story is actually a satirical origin on the moabites and ammonites by acknowledging their roots in primeval history but claiming you're actually the product of incest.
>>150271125
>I was raised jewish
>calls it the binding of issac
>used the word jehovah
>doesn't know any of the mishnas of the foundational stories of his holy books
See that's a big sign about being jewish.

I think it's funny that Tats keeps portraying this Pagan gods as big and strong and beating the Abrahamic God when historically those religions all got supplanted by at least one form of the Abrahamic faiths. In fact the only polytheistic religions that survived into the modern era are Hinduism, which Tats will never do because I mean just look at what people who agree with him think of Indians these days, and Shintoism, which Tats will never do because it'd require him to confront his Japanese heritage while he's trying to argue in favor of white ethnonationalism.

>>150271625
It's also important to note that the Vikings took up worship of Jesus Christ pretty easily as a form of religious syncretism as kinda of covering all their bases.

>>150271614
Doug Tennapel kinda went loony too, but i don't know if he even makes comics these days

>>150271625
Don't forget that some really remote parts of Africa still practice their tribal religions, which I uh, don't think he'd be too keen on doing either based on his most recent portrayals of black people.

>>150270968
Not to dispute the archaeological issues with Exodus, but the ancient Egyptians are well-known for blatantly lying in their historical records and later revisionism.

>>150271625
He's Japanese. So, that makes him honorary white.

>>150271625
The worst part is most of the European ones were turning into monotheistic systems anyway and Christianity filled the niché. People talk about the "nordic" or "roman" pantheon but not Wodin or Hyperion late into the empire. Nor do they bring up how the roman pantheon was not actually built on faith, but ritual. Believing was never required, only practiced.

>>150271526
My point is Japan doesn't want or need a Hitler so Tats is going to ignore that part of himself.

>>150271625
I hate "strong cultures" because they often act like "weak cultures".
>“When I am Weaker Than You, I ask you for Freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am Stronger than you, I take away your Freedom Because that is according to my principles.” -Frank Herbert, Children of Dune
Islam will never have my respect.

>>150259639 (OP)
By being based.

>>150271674
For the record I consider the whole "ME GOD STRONG, YOU GOD WEAK" argument to be stupid across the board and also consider Islam to be by far the worst of the Abrahamic faiths, more just making a comment on how Tats is cheering for dead religions by portraying their gods as big and strong and beating up the sniveling cowardly weakling. No real grasp of theology or any attempt to show why these gods should be followed while poking holes in actual issues in Abrahamic thought, no just "MY GOD COULD BEAT UP YOUR GOD".

>>150271704
it's a webcomic nigga, not a theological dissertation

>>150271712
Somebody tell tats that then.

>>150271712
He literally used to explore theology more in his older strips anon

>>150271729
>"explore theology"
>it's god playing with handpuppets
read a book nigger

>>150271712
You can use a daily webcomic to explore theology WITHOUT making any given strip be overloaded with words

>>150271625
>it'd require him to confront his Japanese heritage while he's trying to argue in favor of white ethnonationalism.
Because Japanese have never allied with Nazis?

Stonetoss posters are classic /b/-era trolls and I don't understand how you guys still reply to them seriously.

>>150271691
What those people don't understand is that all the companies in the world tweeting rainbow flags doesn't save a single gay guy in Saudi Arabia from being stoned to death or a single transperson in America from being ostracized from her family. Not a single LGBTQ person in the world gives a single shit about what fucking McDonald's opinion on them is.

>>150271765
Because I don't see a reason not to be matter of fact with them.

>>150271775
>Not a single LGBTQ person in the world gives a single shit about what fucking McDonald's opinion on them is.

>>150271704
When I said "strong" or "weak", I meant the "Master/Slave morality" cope. Yhwh is objectively stronger than the other gods in every metric but I was talking about the whole "Better to be a wolf of Odin than a lamb of God" bullshit. Islam is spread by the sword.

>>150271775
>>150271793
Rainbow Capitalism is a conspiracy theory that all of the gay shit that companies are pushing is actually profitable and they are only doing it for their own self-interest. Look at all of the brands weaken by making it "gay and lame".

>>150260785
The really weird part of the story is the "passover", that they had to mark their doors with blood so he would pass over their houses and not kill their firstborns. He is concerned for them he is doing all this to take them out of Egypt but doesn't even know which houses are theirs and if they don't make it clear he'll totally fucking kill them. Stupid

>>150271881
You're missing the point of the story as it'snot really anout getting them out of Egypt, the point is that the plagues are a warning to all the other nations showing how powerful God is.

>>150268399
Someone get this on the booru . We don’t have enough golden age sinfest up on there.

>>150266596
no one did that to them when they were conquered not the, philistines, persians or the romans they hate so much

>>150272024
>no one did that to me
Dude thinks ancient warfare was safe and politically correct lol.

>>150272050
Don't tell him about the Chinese, this is a christian imageboard...

>>150272114
>Decisive Tang Strategic Victory

>>150271618
I said 'raised,' not currently practicing. I wasn't going to expect people here to take 'YUD-HEY-VOV-HEY' seriously, you fucking muppet

>>150271535
More please . One of her pole dancing for criminy.

>>150271655
>He's Japanese. So, that makes him scrawny and unable to depict himself correctly

>>150272159
>I was raised Jewish
But you call it the binding of issac? Who was your teacher who taught you so little?

>>150271644
>but the ancient Egyptians are well-known for blatantly lying in their historical records and later revisionism
Yes they retroactively falsified all their business and historical records. A FUCKING CONSERVATIVE RABBI TOLD ME EXODUS WAS A COMPLETE FICTION AND THAT BIBLICAL LITERALISM DID NOT ENTER JUDAISM UNTIL ROUGHLY THE PROTESTANT REFORM

>>150272190
I call it what the Gentiles understand and this really chaps your fucking ass

>>150272200
Because you're an obvious fraud.

It's kind of funny to me that a thread which is supposed to be about mocking Tatsuya rapidly devolves into seething roughly as hard as him. It's almost like Tatsuya is in the thread, posting with us.

>>150272191
I can tell he was an conservative rabbi because he didn't kept with the academic research showing that jewish people were most certainly living in Egypt and most of been living in Egypt for a while having established an temple.

>>150272211
The Jew fears the Samurai.

>>150272204
I am 57 years old and haven't entered a shul since I was 40. I've been a (mostly lapsed) Unitarian Universalist since then because I got sick of being told Judaism and Zionism were indivisible. I can daven out of habit but my reading skills with Hebrew are pretty fucking bad. And to answer your next question no I did not go up on the bimah and do a Bar Mitzvah because by the time I reached 13 my father was dead and I didn't really care for the faith. If I told you my surname you'd say it's spelled wrong but you'd recognize its ethnicity with no difficulty. We good here, homie?

>>150272236
No because you're a fake trying to use your incomplete education as authority.

>>150272211
I do suspect that Tats is in these threads sometimes but I don't think he is in this case. There's a poster that regularly talks about how his comics actually make coherent sense and how he's speaking the truth if you look at them through extremely esoteric means, and that's the guy I suspect is actually him. It's basically "He's totally right about everything if you think in precisely the same way I- I mean he does."

>>150271206
My man is a walking metamorphosis.

>>150272220
He wasn't disputing the existence of the Israelites in Egypt, he was saying there is no evidence whatsoever to the events of Exodus: no plagues, no uprising, no mass exodus, fucking nothing happened never mind the parting of the Red Sea. If you have evidence to the contrary, great, this was thirty years ago.

>>150272254
>your incomplete education
I look forward to hearing how complete yours is

>>150272282
Well I completed my catechesis, unlike you.

>>150272264
Well papers from the elephantine papyri show that amazingly enough there was a refugee tradition within that egyptian community.

>>150271114
>>150271119
Well, if you follow the current "lore" in the sinfest comic, Yahweh was always a minor deity that the greek gods didn't care for until he got money and became strong.

Yakub could appear, why not?

>>150272321
I lost track. Is Tats still leaving Criminy and his gf the hell alone for fear of alienating whatever is left of his fanbase, or is he fucking with them again?

>>150271881
>"passover"
I found another relevant lawcomic. It's the wall of text in the center left panel.
That whole section, chapter, whatever about how the Jews invented law and monotheism is relevant, actually. It technically starts at https://lawcomic.net/guide/?p=7110, though I'd argue it starts sooner at https://lawcomic.net/guide/?p=7014. Good stuff.

>>150272356
I don't think they've been around for a long time or at least in actual name. He had like a small girl in a tricycle back during his feminist era, but I don't think he has proper " original characters" anymore at the moment.

>>150272356
They haven't been in the comic since the feminist era from what I remember, and during the feminist era Criminy was basically portrayed as "one of the good ones" with their relationship intact.

>>150272371
The original characters still sometimes show up, but only randomly for a single strip with months if not years between each appearance.

>>150272255
90% makes perfect sense if you realize that trannies will never be real women.

>>150271206
The one and only big change here is him becoming a woman supremacist.
The left abandoned women by embracing troonism, so he's right wing now.
Jews invented troonism, so he hates jews.

You really think it's some well kept secret that jews are behind the transgender industry?

>>150272211
I honestly assume it's the same guy who has this weird worship-lust thing going on for Beanertoss, same quirk chungus "witty replies" and all

>>150267025
Sometimes the best comics from the most skitzo of places.

>>150268650
>>150270919
NTA and I don't want to derail the thread but what is your beef with 40k books? Or Blood Msridian?

>>150272925
Cormac McCarthy is a hack and a pedophile. Blood Meridian is safe edgy for the most milquetoast of normies.

>>150272371
>>150272390
Good, good. That's about as good as I can hope for at this point, and kind of fittingly symbolic that the abandonment of Criminy and Fuchsia represents the death of Tats' optimism for life.

>>150272925
>40k books?
I refuse on general principle to engage with anything Matt Ward has tainted by association. Also John Grammaticus can fuck off. Inquisitor Draco is hilarious, though. If none of these sentences makes any sense to you, consider ignorance as bliss.
>Blood Meridian
Don't look at me, I've got no issue with babby's first experience with the brutality of the wild west.

>>150271775
All the tumblr and bluesky activism and allyship posts combined don't save a single gay guy in Saudi Arabia, or the tranny either. Literally none of it does anything. The lack of focus and clear, universally understood ideas backed by concrete evidence and repeatable research has actually caused the entire movement to jog backwards as people are now suspicious of all queer identities.

>>150272390
>The original character still sometimes show up
Also yeah I was about to say, my last memory of a coherent narrative in the strip was Slick getting redpilled and wandering through the manosphere in a confused haze.

That was unintentionally funny to me, because Slick at the start of the strip is basically everything the "manosphere" presents as, and Tats is out here treating old Slicky getting back into it as some kind of lifechanging moment rather than simply him getting his groove back.

...I'm not sure if that was actually a thing or a fever dream I conflated with whatever happened during the Devil Slick arc, God, there's arcs from the non-deranged part of the comic I can still recall with crystal clarity but the current state of it is an unhinged fever dream.

>>150266985
>. From what I've seen, every schizo I've talked to has all been incapable of accepting they're wrong about anything and been irrationally hostile to anyone and everyone that suggests otherwise. Anything that you say to them is either proof that they're right or proof that there's either a conspiracy specifically against them.
I've always figured that's the difference made with narcissism, someone that's "just" schizo can realize at some point or another that
>oh fuck I'm crazy
But a narcissist will feed into his own delusions because he always starts from the position of
>I am always right

>>150273054
Nobody on either side wants to here this, but I think the movement would've succeeded more if they'd just come out and said "Hi, I'm genderwhatever and my son's autistic, I am a normal person and this is my identity" instead of having gay parades and using the media to scream at you to get with the program or be labelled a heckin' chud. I mean, look at how MLK or Gandhi is remembered now, and neither was a perfect human being.

All they had to do was not be too performative about it. But for some reason I will never understand, a certain subset of Americans are genetically hardwired to be performative, and Americans with a special identity-religion, sexual orientation, celebrity status-are doubly performative.

all of you have great points, but what's the solution?

>>150273102
Here's something else nobody is prepared to hear: There is no solution at this point, because it would involve someone admitting to having been wrong. And everyone involved would legitimately rather drop dead than be remembered as being on the wrong side of history.

>>150273144
Sounds like you're saying we should all drop dead

>>150259639 (OP)
i think the one thing we can all agree on about tats is that he's a person of extraordinarily weak character who absorbs any and all propaganda that comes his way like a sponge

>>150273148
Well, we're all going to die someday so there's no rush. I just think we should all just stop talking to each other, stop engaging with each other like monkeys howling at other monkeys in another tree, and just focus on improving ourselves or finding things we actually like instead of trying to change things we can't that are, for better or worse, being written by people who either hate the abstract idea of you too much to have a reasonable dialogue. Or are being paid to act like it.

There's a whole fucking world beyond Comics and Cartoons, it can't be worse than being stuck terminally online bickering about opinions you know no amount of facts will change. Hell, if you look hard enough you might even find some Comics and Cartoons divorced from all the bullshit.

>>150273169
He's a microcosm of /co/, yeah. He even has the volatile cocktail of ultra liberal and ultra blackpilled rage within him.

>>150259705
Please put on deodorant

>>150273196
I do keep to myself, but someone keeps deliberately putting ugliness in my shows and retconning my beloved fictional worlds and adding face ID to my hobbies and interest and increasing the cost of everything and gradually I have less and less to be happy about

>>150273219
>ugliness in my shows
>and reconning my beloved fictional worlds
I do understand your pain. I'm just trying to tell you that things are never getting better, so you might as well try something new instead of keep engaging with something that makes you upset.

Think of it like breaking up with an awful romantic partner. You think if you yell at them enough you can fix them, so you can't. So you may as well cut your losses and find something else.

I'm genuinely surprised that there's never been some kind of autistic lolcow deep dive trying to piece together what his beliefs are per era based on using every strip he's posted, what with how uploading every single day for decades should actually create a pretty solid idea on what he's thinking

>>150273231
I haven't yelled at all, actually I laugh at it, and I think that's healthy
But then people politically aligned with some self-appointed sense of justice get angry and they are the ones who start screaming and ripping down statues and rioting

>>150273260
>actually I laugh
Fair enough! It sounds like you've found your way to get by. Laughter is better than like, getting genuinely invested in all this bullshit. I'd still say complete indifference is better. But if it works for you, it works.

That's the secret, I think. The realisation that ultimately, none of this actually changes anything about human nature. People have been fearing death and yearning for the good old days since Sumeria. It don't matter. None of this matters.

>>150273238
see https://youtu.be/JWEHwHP5Yd8?t=3970
which the conclusion is "muh closeted tranny" because more people got often about the TERF stuff than the unironic Nazi apologism because to them it is just confirmation of their beliefs about him.

>>150272988
>>150273040
I see. I haven't read any novels written after like 2006.

>>150272310
>catechesis
Yeah only my mother was a mackerel smacker and she was pretty lapsed on that. They tried dragging me to mass as a toddler until, and I kid you not, at Communion I screamed "I WANT TO EAT JESUS TOO" which I do not recall and strongly suspect my older brother put me up to. He's too old for 4chan being 62 years old, but he still follows the same webcomics we do.

>>150273334
I liked Madeline Miller's Circe, even if I came away with the nagging feeling that I wasn't supposed to enjoy the rape scene as much as the author intended. Just like I wasn't supposed to get off on Galatea pissing herself because Pygmalion is an abusive boyfriend in the novella she wrote later.

>>150273100
The faggot movement was always about raping kids.

>>150272369
>how the Jews invented law and monotheism
again, my retired rabbi friend said "no, Akhenaten preceded us on monotheism and all the Egyptian royalty despised him for removing them from godhood, and even then he wasn't the first." Irv was fucking based, I miss him. Also, while his wife Nefertiti was depicted (probably accurately) as a gorgeous woman, Akhenaten demanded his sculptures caricature him in order to poke fun at his ancestors' vanity (this being a genuine example of burying history on their part after he and Nefertiti died and pharaohs were reinstated as deities).

>>150273350
Nah I meant Warhammer novels. The non-Warhammer books I read are even older. Robert Asprin, Michael Moorecock, Terry Pratchett. That kind of stuff.

>>150273423
Oh, good. Trust me, you're not missing anything of value between Erda, fucking Grammaticus, and the Emperor reverting from becoming the Dark King with the power of friendship.

>>150273001
>the abandonment of Criminy and Fuchsia represents the death of Tats' optimism for life.
Before he lost his mind he had the obnoxious bald angel-type figure fuming about not being able to evangelize with the punchline being him saying unironically "I got to get my PRAY on!"
I was in the forums and explained why this was a shitty beat for a 4 panel comic even one leading into the next with my brilliant suggestions for alternates he rightfully ignored. As unlikely as it sounds, I think at least one of the reasons he pivoted the way he did was he was starting to realize he knew how to be outrageous, cute, but his instinct for FUNNY was in retrospect pretty hit or miss, and he was up against similar strips like Liberty Meadows where Frank Cho had far less trouble with punchlines. What he's doing now is insane but it's also in a genre virtually by itself so it can't be negatively compared to others. Yeah, there was that one political cartoonist who thought a 2 headed mole nun with 4 asses causing Obama to sing about it was an actual joke and punchline, but those are few and far between.
Tats is nuts to be certain but he's carved out a niche with no one else in it.

>>150272781
The purpose of 4chan is not, as you think, to collect infographics made by other people on 4chan then show them to prove you're right in an argument.

>>150271775
Yeah, neither has any lgbt+ person.

>>150273489
>can't disprove his post so make a lame attempt at meta posting
lol

>>150267429
Clearly not a trace or a template. He's just referencing an earlier comic he did, or ripping himself off if you want to be cynical

>>150273489
That's just how he was groomed

>>150272895
You do what I did both here and on dA, telling her outright no one needed to see her terrible unfunny comics and her personal problems weren't interesting to anyone else. You can't reason an insane person sane, you can however tell them to fuck off and that they aren't interesting. This cuts deeper with women (female).

>>150273476
You're right, and that makes me sad. It baffles me that the almost Calvin and Hobbes-like, offbeat soapboxing magic realism/outright fantastical comic style is basically a lost art when it should theoretically be easier to pick up than all those manhwas I've seen out there.

It's nice that Frank Cho can remain based amongst all this shit, I guess.

>>150271181
Name 5 newspaper strip artists who have done every single day for 30 years

>>150261703
Viking is literally their name for a pirate or raider.
The Norse weren't all fighting all the time, but the vikings were their individuals that were.
And funny you should mention Japanese, as they were mostly known as vicious pirates to their neighbors as well. The Chinese word for pirate was originally "Japanese foe".

>>150272211
Jewhaters and enlightened fedoras infest this board like maggots infest a corpse

>>150273525
>Clearly not a trace or a template. He's just referencing an earlier comic he did, or ripping himself off if you want to be cynical
No, he removed the banker comic and replaced it with the Jew comic.

>>150273528
otherkin spread like a virus through LiveJournal and eventually tumblr. And otherkin laid the foundation for "you can't tell me I'm wrong and you can't judge me" that made furries SEEM tame by comparison. Unfortunately furries cover a spectrum that has anthro cartoon enjoyers at one end and genuine sexual predators at the other, all claiming to be the former category. Comicons and anime conventions have a few shady hookups, furries have this.

In b4 deletion

>>150273721
Trannies are just otherkin but for a different sex instead of species

>>150273528
lol

>>150273531
>is basically a lost art when it should theoretically be easier to pick up
Scott Kurtz fostered the lie that webcomics were going to be just like syndicated newspaper strips but with hookers and blackjack, but we found out within a decade no editors and no syndicates meant a lot of knowledge that didn't make it to webcomics.

>>150273780
>no editors and no syndicates meant a lot of knowledge that didn't make it to webcomics.
explain more

>>150270415
is this guy trying to say that the old testament is just all made up?

>>150273811
He's a fedora tipper with extra steps. Most of them stop at the era of the early church because they lose traction when confronted with christian theological philosophy.

>>150273528
really funny how such an ancient comic triggers the election tourist newfags that made 4chan politics their personality

lol

>>150273972
>say Palestinians are being genocided
>somehow Israel needs reinforcements

>>150273837
Nah, he's a pretty thorough researcher, and busts myths from all over the spectrum. I think he's just interested in giving as straight a story as he can, without worrying about who he offends along the way. I totally recommend reading the whole comic, my first exposure was when one of my professors assigned it a few years ago, and it was really helpful. I only wish he updated more frequently, he's really slowed down this year.

>>150271691
>built ford gay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WchseC9aKTU

>>150264975
Not true, you can literally search it online. archive.org has some of his earliest strips and even pics of him from a university student magazine.

>>150274440
I feel like every time there's a Sinfest thread there's at least one anon that tries to claim that he's just using a pen name, I don't even understand why at this point when there's so much physical evidence showing that he is, in fact, a Japanese American.

>>150270789
Must have been nearly a decade. I know the naive pastor dude appeared in 2022 and was buying a Remington twelve gauge. Fuchsia appeared in 2015 and to the best of my knowledge was not corrupted in the comic. Baby Blue went on to run hellcorp.
Nique changed her hair style and found a lesbian girlfriend and was extremely hostile to Slick when they met. It fucking sucks because they made a great couple. Please draw more of them being together passionately.

I don't know when was the last time they appeared, since I do not regularly read this trainwreck any more.

>>150263787
Honestly I don't think he was ever not crazy, even way the fuck back in the day when the comic was still mostly just cheeky monkey angel/God/devil/succubus/Monique antics I noticed he had a tendency to hyperfixate on some kinda topic/issue and just hammer it into the fucking ground for months at a time

>>150274600
Around the late 00s/early 10s he was bitching about the economy for something like three years non stop. He added uncle sam, lady liberty, and made comics about bankers doing rap.

>>150259639 (OP)
The Answer is jews. Simple as that. The only thing he really gets wrong is depicting women as innocent dindunuffins

>>150274196
Agreed. From what I've seen, people who know what they're talking about tend to have good things to say about the him. I just did a quick google to find an example, and up came with this this from perhaps the foremost authority on the bronze age collapse: https://x.com/digkabri/status/1853183737405870136
But I think we're straying very far from the topic. I don't think the lawcomic has anything remotely in common with Sinfest. Too bad it's a webcomic, because I'd love to see some of it storytimed here.

>>150270935
>>150270881
>>150270906
I can gaurantee that you are just basing your perception of the case off a retarded /pol/ meme rather than any personal research. It's more complex than that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Frank

>>150274778
>>150270935
from what i can tell the KKK was revived after leo frank was lynched, and not before

>>150273811
>is this guy trying to say that the old testament is just all made up?
I don't think so, not the whole thing. Though he definitely is saying that arguably the most important parts, those about/by Moses, David, and Solomon, were mythical and not based on anything in real life. I can see how that might rustle a few jimmies.
I think it's a fascinating story of how a bit of local political propaganda in a backwater Babylonian province turned into a deeply held core belief of maybe half the people on the planet. It's one of those unforeseeable twists that makes history so much fun.

>>150273811
>>150273837
why does it bother you that someone calls it a myth?

Threads like these also remind me that /lit/ is such a dreadfully dull board, shit's probably in the bottom 10 boards across the site

>>150274565
There's a couple of faggots who lurk on /co/ and jump out to defend his comics, might be one of those trying to muddy the waters with bullshit.
Could just be your average schizo with their retarded delusion.

>>150274591
Going back to earlier, I think it's super impressive that he's able to consistently output these Sunday pages with more than 4 panels every single week on top of doing daily strips, it only makes it more unfortunate that he never really got anywhere in life

>>150274962
myth implies its fake.
its not

>>150259639 (OP)
I like kike hate and all but this comic is made by a satanic pagan faggot who will broil in hell

>>150274948
>I can see how that might rustle a few jimmies.
I wonder, would the Greeks or Romans have gotten angry or started a jihad or burned you at the stake if you said the stories about Zeus and them were just made up? Do modern religions that aren't Jews, Christians, or Muslims get butthurt if you say the stories about their gods are just folk tales with the gods as just characters?
Why DO the Jews/Christians/Muslims get so threatened if you say their myths are no more true than any other religion's myths? Why do they feel the need to attack you for having different thoughts? It's really bizarre, when you think about it.

>>150275082
>broil
Classy

>>150275044
Yeah, that was my opinion of Sinfest for a long time, it may not be consistently good, but it updates every day. Of course that was before the feminist shit ruined it.

>>150275088
why are they all going super saiyans?
>Allah Head ch'Allah

>>150275088
>I wonder, would the Greeks or Romans have gotten angry or started a jihad or burned you at the stake if you said the stories about Zeus and them were just made up?
Nta, but the culture around the pantheon is not the same as our modern understanding of religion. They venerated, but they did not have actual faith in their gods. It was a function.

>>150274985
As someone that once tried to use /lit/ and /his/ alike for some writing advice for a story of mine, I realized that both are largely useless because they're just midwit boards arguing religion all day, and if they can't get their daily stimmies then they completely fall apart
Even random boards like /ic/ have given me more utilitarian advice in random threads than the others have given me in their entirety

>>150271075
Yeah you sound like a relatively well adjusted adult but something is wrong with you if you're in your 50s and fall for the groyper to neonazi pipeline. That's an impressionable young person's game.

>>150274985
this is /co/ not lit

>>150271075
>I turn 58 in 2 months
why are you still on 4chan?

>>150275088
>Would the Greeks or Romans have gotten angry or started a jihad or burned you at the stake if you said the stories about Zeus and them were just made up?
They probably wouldn't have gotten angry but would have viewed you as retarded barbarians and enslaved your civilization. If a slave spoke out against the pantheon they probably would have beaten or killed.
>Do modern religions[...] get butthurt if you say the stories about their gods are just folk tales?
Hindus absolutely do and the government of Japan is pretty protective of Shinto related historic artifacts which, presumably, means they would be critical of someone publicly declaring Shintoism as fake/folk tales.

>>150275142
It makes sense if you think of Sinfest as always having been a college comic, and Tats never shifting out of that mindset.

>>150275149
>this is /co/ not lit
i mean if people are arguing theology what's the diff

>>150275073
Except the only basis for believing any of it is mere faith and nothing more. There's no historical or archaeological evidence supporting those scripture stories other than the scripture stories themselves. The actual historical and archaeological evidence is pretty clear that it never happened. For a summary, just look at the comments on that lawcomic page you're bitching about: https://lawcomic.net/guide/?p=7354#comment-207491
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with believing it on faith alone. Believe whatever the fuck you want. Life's hard enough, and whatever makes it work for you is fantastic. If believing that the Bible is the infallible word of an all-powerful creator makes life bearable for you, or gives you a sense of meaning, or helps bond you to the rest of your community, then goddamn it you SHOULD believe it! Just don't tell me there's any other reason besides faith to believe it. Because there isn't.

why are you talking like a tumblrina

>>150275141
Hard agree. I tried /lit/ and /his/ for a few months back in 2017. Never again.

>>150275214
you are on /co/mblr, stop pretending otherwise, dumbass.

>>150275179
That actually works. Good one.

>>150275141
>I realized that both are largely useless because they're just midwit boards arguing religion all day, and if they can't get their daily stimmies then they completely fall apart
in retrospect IRL religious arguments kinda remind me of 4chan schizoposters, you know the ones: the dudes who keep making the same threads every day, hyperfixating on some vague topic, trying to sway the opinions of "the masses" yet it kind of feels like they have no real endgame; even if everyone agreed with them it's like something about that wouldn't actually satisfy them, like deep down nobody really knows what these niggas actually want out of life

>>150275275
So arguments about the nature of the trinity are just 4chan schizoposts?

>>150275305
in a cosmic sort of way, yes

>>150275141
I guess now's as good of a time as any to say this, but I think history is the subject I genuinely care the absolute least about, even if you completely removed any sort of religious elements to it.
When everyone and their mother has a wildly different idea on what "really" happened in various points in history, I just lose interest. Too many mentally ill retards with incomprehensible agendas trying to redpill me with shit that doesn't actually benefit me in any aspect, at that point I've just hung up the gloves.

>>150267424
Mishima had a contingent of followers large and competent enough to temporarily occupy a JSDF base. Absolute best case scenario for Ishida is one of the guys on his message board alerts the authorities after he doesn't post a strip one day, and they find the body before it decays real bad

>>150260164
>strict immigration laws
Like slaughtering christcuck angloids and taking their land?

>>150275207
Scripture may not be history but it's certainly tells us about History which makes it worth studying.

>>150275385
Tats would just say they were jews so it was a good act, and ignore the hypocrisy of suddenly saying 'immigrants gud'.

>>150275207
wrong
>>150275389
wrong

finally, a good fucking Sinfest thread.

>>150271614
Al Capp who did Lil Abner for decades went absolutely nuts when its popularity was eclipsed by Peanuts

>>150273219
>my beloved fictional worlds!
lol you fucking faggot baby, pick up a pen if you don't like TV anymore. log onto fanfiction.com

>>150275510
>Al Capp, probably.

>>150271083
That kind of reinforces my point. Old testament chosen ones, not just Job, were by and large DEEPLY flawed people who are outright stated to have offended god in various ways. Various of "god's annointed one" committed murder (including of brothers and sons), tyranny, blasphemy/apostasy/heresy, desecration of the dead, and abused their authority. But those stories are broadly historical ("this is what happened and how"), and the general justification is that those chosen ones, for all their heinous sins, were still the best people available for god's purposes.

Keep in mind, Job wasn't a GOOD person persay, he was just the least bad. God smote the fuck out of sodom and gommorah because those cities were (in the context of the story, I can't speak to if or how they were historical) grimdark hellholes without any redeeming qualities or innocent people in them. Job was just the one person in there who didn't outright need to get smote.

I like to imagine old testament god looking through the population of the prehistoric-through-classical era going "Alright, are ANY of you decent enough to civilize your people? Let's see... kin-killer, dog-fucker, thief, rapist, demon worshiper, murderer, thief..." until finally going "fuck it, you'll do" and manifesting before the guy who at least was self-aware of how fucked up he was.

>>150275731
>Job wasn't a GOOD person
He actually explicitly was.

>>150275731
You got Job and Lot mixed up

>>150275432
So convince us. Make an argument. Present evidence that logically leads to your conclusion. You don't achieve anything by just saying
>wrong

I hate everyone in this thread

>>150275938
I love you, and hope you have a wonderful life.

>>150271614
I feel like Scott Adams, while unhinged, never did a complete 180 on his politics like Tat did. He just went deeper and deeper up his own asshole.

>>150275141
/his/ was genuinely quite good for the first couple of years, people initially treated it as a more history-focused board and there weren't really that many schizos around. Then the religious posters and a whole host of schizos started to move in and the quality imploded.

>>150275938
i dont feel any strong feelings towards you or anyone else in this thread

I don't understand. Does the author even have real convictions? He seems to flip-flop really hard.

>>150273219
>I do keep to myself, but someone keeps deliberately putting ugliness in my shows and retconning my beloved fictional worlds and adding face ID to my hobbies and interest and increasing the cost of everything and gradually I have less and less to be happy about

If you genuinely think its all the cause of a single person, you are dense

>>150273972
>we trashed your heroes
NOOOOOO NOT MY HECKIN SLAVE OWNERS

>>150276041
The south was a bunch of rich landowners who didn't want to give up their inefficient system that only benefited them and tricked the poor southerners to go die for it.

The Southern Landowners were the actual jews of America.

>>150261002
before the sudden radfem adjustment in 2011, sinfest was one of the best webcomics on the block. schizo is a scary thing.

>>150261703
>You saw a similar thing happen with the Japanese during the peace of the Tokugawa period, they hyperfocused on "muh samurai, muh death, muh honor" when the ability to engage in such things was in short supply.
they only got like that because war defined much of the ruling class, and without war, they had to pretend like they were still important. the lack of war from a -traditionally warring area- is what brought that about, which isn't assisting your point.

>>150275510
>>150275691
I had no idea! Just googled it and found these:
https://kmunson-mac.blogspot.com/2010/11/al-capp-charles-schulz-clash-of-titans.html
https://danielebrady.blogspot.com/2015/10/lil-abner-takes-on-peanuts-october-1968.html
How come he didn't go after Pogo, then? It was just as big at the time. (Or maybe he did? It's way before my time.)

>>150276109
>before the sudden radfem adjustment in 2011

No, between 08-11 he was doing constant bitching about US politics and economy, it was really fucking annoying but not yet as crazy as what came later.

But yeah before that it was a really good webcomic. This page was probably where it peaked.

>>150275691
his position was that the child characters talked like philosophers and psychiatrists and it was unrealistic, meanwhile his comic had been running for decades and was replete with supernatural and magical realist elements. He also turned into a right wing crank and got repeatedly accused of raping girls while he was touring giving talks at colleges

>>150265435
>You are the one making an assertion, you have the burden of proof. I don't have to prove a negative.
but you only put these things into doubt because you want to assert that he's been going by a fake identity. there's less evidence for that than there is for him actually being an asian.

>>150276165
I think it really says a lot regarding how there’s no way he could make a strip like that again
Dude’s so far gone that even in a fantasy world he can’t imagine actual peace or victory

>>150276101
>The south was a bunch of rich landowners who didn't want to give up their inefficient system that only benefited them and tricked the poor southerners to go die for it.
Except the North wasn't fighting to take slavery away from the South. The South was fighting because they wanted new states to be slave states, and if the rest of the country wouldn't play along then they'd go form their own country. Then the North fought to prevent them from seceding.
Slavery was a big part of why the war happened, but neither side was fighting to keep or end slavery. I don't know why that's what we tell kids in school.

>>150276157
Mine too, so i don't know off the top of my head if he had any particular animosity for Kelly. My guess is he'd have more or less identified with him as a talented illustrator whose political bent was basically conservative (at least as far as environmental conservation)

I don't know.

>>150276180
The college mag he appeared in, in the early 90s, lists him as asian american and even published his picture.

>>150276101
You don’t need to call them Jews, they’re vast majority, 99% of all slave owners were Baptist/Methodist Christians.

>>150266703
i've seen a lot of internet crazy too, but i don't see anything off about his arc. extremism without regard for consistency is classic schizo.

>>150276203
>the south was going to secede in order to continue owning and using slaves, but nobody was fighting to keep or end slavery
what the fuck are you talking about

>>150259639 (OP)
Sometimes there's some eloquent explanation.
Sometimes it's just as simple as "and then one day, his mind fractured, and that was that".

>>150276203
>Except the North wasn't fighting to take slavery away from the South
Not explicitly, but that’s how everyone in the south felt, and frankly a large chunk of people in the north felt. Lincoln has quotes that go against that, but that’s because his primary goal was the preservation of the union.
Your argument that it was about bringing in new slave states or they’d leave is a distinction without a difference.

>>150275773
Yeah, I fucked up and mixed him up with Lot like >>150275807 noted.

>>150267079
it's not? most cartoonists go through phases of less output, or no output at all. it's very rare for anyone to have tatsuya's track record. he can be a schizo nazi and still have an impressive consistency.

>>150276237
I see reading comprehension isn't your forte.

You know, Tatsuya is one author who I wish had more presence on social media, just so we could have more insight as to what the fuck is going on in his mind. It must be fascinating. Someone mentioned that he got a radfem girlfriend in the early 2010s and that's why the comic went crazy back then, but what the fuck could have triggered the current insanity?

>>150276165
>No, between 08-11 he was doing constant bitching about US politics and economy,
yeah, but that wasn't the radfem shit. suddenly tricycle girl is aware of the matrix, has a radfem organization backing her up, and monique went lesbian.

>>150269236
>>150270370
It means "wigger nationalist". Leftists occasionally use it against all right wingers but it's originally a term used by far-right types as a pejorative against other far-right types.

>>150276203
>>150276251
The southern planter's overall plans were some dystopian shit. If they'd won they would not only have extended slavery westwards, but also tried to conquer south into Mexico and the Carribean and recreate the plantation slave-states that the Spanish used to have, AND tried to experiment with industrial/factory slavery.

>>150276251
You know who persecuted abolitionists? Not the southern states. It was the north that was so strongly opposed to abolition that they physically tortured those in favor of it. (Tarred & feathered = severe 3rd degree burns all over. Rode out of town on a rail = jostled on a split wooden rail until it split you from the ass up into your torso.)

He is like this meme 'i support the current thing' but just opposing current thing to be an eternal contrarian.

>>150260560
>What the fuck even are his beliefs?

A spin of the wheel?

>>150276288
>Someone mentioned that he got a radfem girlfriend in the early 2010s and that's why the comic went crazy back then,
This is a completely unsubstantiated rumor with absolutely nothing to back it with, Tats is insanely private about his life and nobody's known what his situation has been since like 2005 after he stopped regularly posting blog updates. It's about as "real" as people that say Ted Turner cancelled SWAT Kats because Callie made him horny.

>>150276313
Depends on when you’re talking about. Northerners absolutely had issues with abolitionists, but that lessened and lessened over time especially with new controversies like the Fugitive Slave act and Bleeding Kansas and Dred Scott.

>>150276309
Wait, they wanted to replace the hacienda system with the encomienda system? And they seriously thought that would happen? They weren't dystopian, they were delusional.

>>150276305
>yeah, but that wasn't the radfem shit.

No but it was in EVERY FUCKING STRIP and it was just as unhinged, with shit like Scrooge McDuck appearing how it's so great to be a banksta'. The old characters barely appeared.

>>150276313
>You know who persecuted abolitionists? Not the southern states
yeah they were just mad they couldn't have slaves, no biggie

>>150276371
They also thought they could essentially hold the world’s cotton supply hostage until Europe recognized and supported the CSA, which backfired hilariously because Europe found supply elsewhere and the South essentially fucked their biggest export in the middle of a land war with their industrial powerhouse neighbors.

>>150276282
lol neither is yours you dumb asshole, the primary impetus of the conflict was the question of slavery

>>150270986
It's funny how people try to pander to the left and don't actually READ the Mannifesto. Like I read it in my phase in high school and I can tell you right now, there's nothing in there saying "Yeah let the Billionaire into the Proletariat's Club! It's all guuchi".

Frankly Marx spins whenever it happens.

>>150276371
>They weren't dystopian, they were delusional.
Dystopian plans usually are. The fact that slavery on the scale they wanted to implement it had already been violently overthrown in the Caribbean didn't seem to dissuade them, for some reason. I guess they thought they were just built different.

>teach kids the founding fathers were white nationalists
>get fired for being woke

>say the founding fathers were white nationalists on 4chan
>get called based

I don't get it. Is this fact meant to be hidden from normies? Is it too dangerous to know the truth?

>>150276309
They did try factory slavery with script company money and company stores, reinvent a serfdom or indentured servant system by giving people the illusion of choice and agency. Which they had to some degree, it wasn't chattel slavery.

>>150276504
>The fact that slavery on the scale they wanted to implement it had already been violently overthrown in the Caribbean didn't seem to dissuade them, for some reason.
It scared the shit out of them, which is a big reason why the US did not ally itself with Haiti in the slightest. In their minds, the weaker the institution of slavery was, the more likely that what happened in Haiti would happen in their backyards.

>>150275510
>>150275691
>>150276157
>>150276209
He must have gone out of his mind when they went with Snoopy instead of the Shmoo later that year.

>>150272321
Even if Yahweh is minor, Yakub is still just some dude.

>>150276313
>You know who persecuted abolitionists? Not the southern states.

Do you have a source?
People were sometimes prosecuted in the south for having abolitionist literature: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Impending_Crisis_of_the_South#Political_impact

>>150276347
>Ted Turner cancelled SWAT Kats because Callie made him horny.

DOCTOR VIPER IS IN MY PANTS

>>150276519
But the concepts of race and nationalism that underlie white nationalism wouldn't be invented until well after the founding generation was dead?

>>150276579
forgot pic. "They" referred to "NASA"

>>150276645
They were specific about their preference for white land owning men. It just gets more woke the more you describe it to kids. More based the more you explain it on 4chan.

>>150276645
Ehhhhhh, there were proto-examples of those movements
Ben Franklin thought every ethnicity that wasn’t Anglo Saxon was inferior, but that changed later in his life.

>>150265177
True. I'd rather have my assholes be easier to see than them trying to put some $1 mask on and acting like it's "just common sense".

>>150267025
> he hasn't had much claim to fame beyond his webcomic
So... Why ruin his only legacy like that???

>>150267025
Is that an excuse?

Most people in their mid-lives buy expensive cars. Go to strip clubs. Travel places.

They don't just go "Oh shit, I'm halfway to the grave! Better get really racist really fast!"

>>150276685
But that was more cultural than racial. Other ethnicities didn't have a concept of individual rights and liberties that, at the time, only the English and the Colonies had.

>>150265177
>>150276692
But that kind of vague antisemitism is to cover for the failures of capitalism and the free market. By painting these as issue of ethnic conspiracy instead of the system working as intended, they avoid having to know, criticize, and offer solutions to policy problems. Libertarian types often rely on ethnic conspiracy ideas to arrive at solutions that don't require regulations of businesses.

>>150276778
And the northern colonies, being more Puritan and constitutional-monarchist, were more in line with that mindset than were the southern colonies, being more Cavalier and authoritarian-monarchist.

Good thread

>>150276760
They might if they feel getting racist will make people notice them more, and bring them more praise from a different audience. Maybe there’s another guy in his 50s who had a very public hard-right political turn that seems like he’s flailing desperately for attention from anyone that will care about him, could be a similar situation.

>>150267263
What if this poster is Ishida himself? He seems like being 4chan pilled fella.

>>150272211
>It's almost like Tatsuya is in the thread, posting with us.
I mean if he’s anywhere, he’s on 4chan. Some of these strips messages were torn directly from /pol/ before they’d ever seeped into the twattexsphere.

>>150276519
Unironically yes. The Unionist position prior to the Civil War was always that the founding fathers may have been flawed and fallen short of their ideals, but the Constitution and associated Articles themselves were in accordance with those ideals. That was a fine line to walk; a lot of both abolitionists and slaveholders thought the Union, its founders, and its founding documents, were all fundamentally unsalvageable due to the tension between the enlightenment ideals of "All Men are created Equal" and such vs the protection and practice of slavery as an institution.

In the Unionist's minds, allowing the US to break up under that tension and have each state rewrite the Constitution to match their own principles would have been the kiss of death for constitutional, representative government as a workable, stable system. The French revolution had already collapsed into terror and chaos due to irreconcilable differences between ideals and reality - if democracy was to survive, the US needed to enshrine its Constitution and founding as sacrosanct. Acknowledging the moral failings of the founders openly was dangerous, because it gave the antiunionists an in to argue that the Union couldn't be saved and should be dissolved.

>>150259639 (OP)
A decade-and-a-half-long post-nut guilt is a helluva thing.

>>150271075
There should totally be a "Old people" board for april fools. just for yucks.

>>150276817
His is more about how dems and the left favor regulating his cars and getting him to treat workers better. Trump promised more deregulation. There was actually a swing in all of silicone valley, not just Musk. Also Zuckerberg went performative masculinity to bitch on Rogan about the FTC and the consumer finance protections bureau. The "Atari democrats" put government funds into supporting the infrastructure and research of silicone valley, new money competing with old money that more often sides with republicans. Not that they got their foothold, they are ditching the dems because they want to regulate them and protect their workers and consumers. Time to go republican.

>>150276817
That's honestly a very good point. I guess the worst fear of getting old is just being "forgotten" and wasting away. So might as well say fuck it and take the filter off.

Probably explains why some old people get cranky and loud.

>>150276950
They all need Luigi'd

Don’t know if anyone has the specific strip but all the soul died when Slick’s eyes got casually revealed and there was zero fanfare

>>150277009
Mostly Peter Thiel does, that man is trying a little too hard to prove he isn’t the antichrist.

>>150276950
I'm so happy people exist that see beyond the bullshit culture wars for the truth.

The actual problems, don't care about sides, they just use 'em and gishgallop for whatever gives him bigger numbers financially. Whatever let's them get that bigger boat than his neighbor. The shinier Golfclubs, the HOTTEST, most plastic trophy wife/boywife.

Hell even in some nods to classic aristocracy, whoever can host the most depraved evening of fun.

>>150277016
>Don’t know if anyone has the specific strip but all the soul died when Slick’s eyes got casually revealed and there was zero fanfare
fucking what?

post that strip, I won't believe that happened unless I see it.

>>150276931
It's been kind of fascinating watching the culture of 4chan (and the internet more broadly) shift in real time as it's userbase ages. You went from lol meems, to irony and being super concerned with being cool, to unironically griping about kids these days and going full "old man shakes fist at cloud".

>>150277016
I think I might know the one you mean if someone wants to try finding it, pretty sure it was Slick and Squigley getting X-ray’d and Slick’s eyes were clearly seen behind the sunglasses (and his eyes aren’t even unique either)

>>150276950
I don’t disagree, but also Elon is 100% objectively desperate for public approval.

>>150260164
this guy is fucking japanese
when and how did he start getting into white nationalist nordic paganism

Everything a schizophrenic does makes much more sense when you frame it around a confirmation bias that is far stronger than those who don't suffer from that condition. The confirmation bias governs everything about their life; everything that happens either proves that they're right or proves that there's a conspiracy against them personally. You cannot convince a schizophrenic of anything that doesn't agree with what they already believe.

>>150273972
Why is he using Pepe? Isn't it illegal?

>>150277174
You're preaching to the choir.

>>150277174
Sure, but why wouldn't he just get that from the left? Why doesn't he just do philanthropy or try being a Mr. Beast type? It costs $0 to tweet about Gaza or any other leftist cause. He's seeking approval from the right because he needs them to support him and think he's the based kekistani rightwing type while he fires over 2,000 people in Texas and brings in 2,000 H1Bs to replace them. He wants people to focus on culture war.

>>150277233
I legitimately think that a lot of radical politics makes more sense if you assume that paranoid schizophrenia (without outright hallucinations) is more widespread than it seems. If you look at nazis, wignats, stalinists, trotskyists, maoists, mcarthyists, whatever, the commonalities in their behavior all stem from an intense paranoia that there's a massive, extraordinarily well-coordinated conspiracy at all levels of society. Everyone from the top ministers to the cashier who said something weird to them that morning is in on it, and they all have to be purged, because it's [Us] or [Them].

>>150277275
He's a pawn. Artificially created "Tony Stark" but in real life. For few years, before he was put on the "right wing side" he was well liked by leftists. You just need to think about american politics as similar to pro wrestling. It's all kayfabe.

>>150277275
Because the left aren't stupid. They know when someone's paying lip service. For the right, any publicity is good publicity. Just look at Trump.

>>150277313
The alarming part is the size and scope of the fringes growing to significantly change the scope of the overton window. Or perhaps that's because the fringe continues to get more extreme in its views? It feels hard to tell just how legitimately large or small the radical groups are.
I wouldn't disagree with your premise at all, but I caution dismissing these groups out of hand too readily. Particularly when there's bound to be a mix of people ready to believe in these conspiracies who might otherwise be sane, healthy or normal through social pressure, real or perceived. Even someone well versed in these theories could be easily pulled in even if the ideas come from people who very well might be suffering from some real mental health issues.

>>150271758
Ally is a strong word for "It's coinvent for both of us".

>>150277530
Oh, I don't dismiss them. Paranoid schizophrenia as a political phenomenon is legitimately dangerous; every example I named left a long trail of blood and indictments. I just think they're easier to understand if one tries to think of them as a sort of semi-contagious hysteria, rather than as a political movement persay. Political movements have policies; these weird fits are more akin to the Salem witch trials than to any kind of coherent ideology.

>>150276020
>If you genuinely think its all the cause of a single person, you are dense

He doesn't know...

>>150273972
I fucking hate that the art is not that bad. and it's wasted on this.

>>150277350
But there is a fundamental difference in expectation and in policy. I know dems aren't socialists, but what was done under Biden is much different than what is happening under Trump and it has everything to do with the FTC and the CFPB. Regulatory efforts for workers and consumers exist and can be effective under dems. They were under Biden. Trump installed a guy who said "the FTC is too much about rules" to head up the FTC.

>>150274985
Not wrong, but at least you're talking with more intelligent people.

>>150277530
>>150277635
It’s also insane how certain groups have taken advantage of the way that hysteria can spread. That catholic school shooter from last week? Groomed by a network of neo-nazis/schizos trying to start a race war, called O9A/764

>>150275088
of you denied the sacred nature of the king it didn't end well for you in Thailand too

>>150277313
It's more like people are desperately defending their positions of being libertarian at heart while seeing the cause and effects of free market policy. They can't just say regulations are good, their mind is wired to think it's always bad. They need excuses and scapegoats to work around having to articulate the obvious failures and solutions and that makes you sound schizo.

>>150277708
For some, it's deliberate and is taking advantage of a disenfranchised youth. Some people might call it "grooming" but really if you take someone in a vulnerable position who feels lonely or abandoned by a society that unfortunately has let them fall through the cracks. Either because acknowledging them is inconvenient or because of a blind spot. It's also possible that they inevitably gravitate to these sorts of groups naturally, like a sort of evolutionary pressure. Seeking social cohesion is pretty normal for a teen or young adult. Or maybe society is becoming more fragmented. Social schisms grow increasingly wide. The harder someone becomes 'othered' (for lack of a better term) the desire to feel wanted or needed has to be fulfilled becomes increasingly unsatisfied. Eventually they might find themselves gravitate to the nearest fringe belief that accepts them.
Hardly a new concept, but political polarization is going to radicalize more people. Sadly, I don't see that social condition improving.

>>150276661
that's actually adorable if true.

>>150276661
This is fucking awesome.
NASA has a lot of awesome things going for it by the way. They used Amiga computers into something like the early 00s (and it was a big deal that they had to rewrite some ancient software to work with Windows instead). They also have a dedicated group whose job is finding pronounceable acronyms/backronyms for their projects, that's why all their projects have awesome names.

>>150276796
A sad truth that even in the modern advanced world, we're still easy prey to "just blame the minority".

>>150277313
not gonna lie I think a lot of these guys have actual hallucinations too, because a lot of them seem to be coasting off of “sources” that they can’t ever explain (because it’s all made up in their minds)

>>150277104
There will come a day when our generation, the pioneers of the Internet, dies out, and the generation after are just born, "already having it", without seeing the primordial ooze of what once was.

>>150277902
>>150277313
The unfortunate part is that they are not wrong about the fact that there's a well-coordinated network of people spying on them, they are just wrong about all the details. Back in eastern european socialism every other person was a whistleblower who reported you if you said something counter revolutionary. In current day if you say anything politically incorrect on social media, you get booted from work.

Can we get back to talking about Sinfest please?

>>150277973
This is also the result of names being associated with internet usage much more frequently. I’m not proud that I’m on this site but I’d much prefer to yell at people anonymously than have my arguments easily found via my digital footprint.

>>150278010
Well the thread is in autosage on page 9 at this point

>>150278010
The thread is autosaging and on page 9 my man, this is just people shooting the shit on a rapidly sinking ship.

>>150278010
I mean I was about to say that in all retrospect, I’m not really surprised that Tatsuya went bugfuck crazy, because the guy has always been some flavor of edgy contrarian but I earnestly believe that contrarianism leaves one with some kind of predisposition to schizophrenic thinking even if you’re not technically a schizo to begin with, basically because their default mindset is that whatever is mainstream is intrinsically bad and whatever is off the beaten path is innately good, so the people like Tatsuya will twist themselves into pretzels adopting progressively more fringe ideologies especially when the previous ones still being so niche or esoteric, basically being the kind of person to abandon all current beliefs because they, too, became too “mainstream” (to their perception, anyway)

>>150277915
I don't think that's quite true. I was born within a year of 9/11, but I'm aware of the primordial culture of the internet. And it still bubbles up from time to time. It's just that the sites and topics are different, because 4chan is filled with old grogs now who used to be with "it", but now what they're with isn't "it", and what's "it" is weird and scary to them.

>>150278133
>I was born within a year of 9/11
No one born after the year 2000 is real, you’re all psyops

don’t let this distract you from the time tatsuya made a blogpost about how he got a stiffy just looking at women’s underwear, dude’s been fighting demons in his head for decades now

>>150278133
I'm speaking more broadly. Like say in the year 2100 when most of us would be absolute geezers in retirement homes, skin and bones.

What will the internet be then? If at all?

>>150278010
Fuck him. I'm happy talking big brain stuff with actual other big brains for once instead of "unga bunga me culture war noww!"

>>150278179
He's japanese, that's the most natural thing in the world

>>150275088
>It's really bizarre, when you think about it.
Not really when you consider religious violence by Hindus and Buddhists are fairly common too, it's just not widely reported on because the West largely doesn't give a shit about internal Indian politics or SEA cultural friction. And yes, the Greeks and the Romans very much would have gotten angry because their gods were complete fucking assholes and letting people go around denying their divinity was a surefire way for the gods to visit calamity and ruin upon you and your city. Why do you think Romans persecuted Christians? It's because their unwillingness to even pay lip service was a direct insult to not only the natural order of things but a direct challenge to the authority of the Roman emperor.

>>150277690
>but what was done under Hollywood Hulk Hogan is much different than what is happening under Undertaker and it has everything to do with the WWF and the WCW
American politics is like Pro Wrestling, don't take it too seriously. They are all under contract from Vince McMahon.

>>150275142
groidpers are gay race communists, not "neo nazis"
so far their track record is supporting kanye west, kamala harris, and now gavin newsom

wow, a Sinfest thread that made it up to the bump limit without getting deleted. I'm impressed.

>>150278358
I gave you specifics. There's a difference in expectations and permissions given. Being so cynical you just go ahead and let things get worse isn't the answer.