Thread 150695641

Who has the better episodes, Stan or Kyle?

>>150695641 (OP)
stan episodes are always "life sucks, i'm being abused somehow, i'm turning into some kind of monster, I'm the only one who knows something obvious and nobody else will listen"
kyle episodes are always "a cute girl likes me, or it's hard being a jew right now, or I'm having a serious quandry with an interesting resolution"
it's kyle all the way

Stan episodes usually involve Butters and Kyle episodes usually involve Cartman. It's a hard choice

Stan

>>150695641 (OP)
You remember when South Park used to centre on both of them (with the exception of the Meteor shower trilogy)?

>>150695641 (OP)
Kyle, but I like Stan more as a character

>>150696402
Butters episodes BTFO all the others when it comes to character focused episodes

>>150696402
Kyle came really close to burning down the school

>>150695641 (OP)
Stan has more fun episodes. Most of the time he recognizes something weird in the world that nobody else notices at all and he has to deal with it or fix it by himself. The shitty ones are when Stan just thinks the world sucks and he is depressed, I normally hate those but they are kind of rare.


Half of Kyle's episodes are about something in the world overly punishing Kyle and his life turning to shit for half an hour. Those are never fun to me. Other times he is the world's moral compass and he has to set everyone else right. Those can be pretty great but they are mostly hit or miss.

Butters episodes are consistently funny since Matt and Trey have no real design with him and they just let him get into wacky cartoon adventures a lot.

>>150696631
Well I LOVE Butters, so this is a very easy choice for me!

kyel is a jew so automatically stan

>>150695641 (OP)
Hard choice, but probably Kyle.

>>150697138
Cartman was always the real star

>>150699079
I agree but Cartman loses episodes are always way more fun than Cartman wins episodes.

>>150699079
WAS the real star. Then it was Randy for a few seasons and now it's Trump
>>150699117
Well, Cartman barely wins

>>150695641 (OP)
Idk but I remember as an underageb& kid on their site's BBS, some guy flipped out over that OP image and threatened to self harm because of Stan pulling that gun.
Death of places like that makes vintage fandom wanks just dust in the wind.

>>150699435
That sounds hillarious

>>150699079
I honestly prefer when Cartman was just a dumbass racist douchebag, but still a kid. Not the vicious megalomaniac retard closeted homo he's become, not to say there aren't fun stories with him now, but I just can't understand why the other boys would let him hang around at all.
Basically I miss Cartman from before he pronounced his words like "Skewl" and "Kyel."

>>150699759
So pre Scott Tenorman? I kinda agree
Also, I imagine some of them (like Kyle) think he can change

Stan. He can be whiny and it usually involves Randy being an tired act retard.....

....but Kyle's episodes are much whinier and he's basically just crying bout Cartman the whole episode while Cartman does the thing or acting just like his mom.

>>150699897
>I imagine some of them (like Kyle) think he can change
In the earlier seasons that seemed reasonable, like he would just naturally grow out of it because while he was a problem child he was still a child and Leanne snapping "don't be difficult, Eric!" was enough to bring him back in line. Now it feels like if Leanne did that he'd just start a fire or something in retaliation.
It also doesn't gel for me that most of the time he is depicted as being so stupid he is functionally retarded, but then when the episode calls for it he is a master manipulator, a business savant capable of launching a successful company on a whim, who can speak fluent Spanish, is an expert photographer, can play multiple instruments, and has at least post-graduate level engineering skills, who is so proficient in the things he does that the entire town tiptoes around him.
I get that it's a comedy series so I'm happy to let it go while actually watching the series, I just find the level of fladerization has become absurd. Also there is rarely a story that involves all four boys working together. Stan and Kyle barely even seem like friends anymore unless the plot requires it.

>>150699740
Turns out it was the same guy who later got psych eval'd because he threatened death online over YGO/Assburgers. Been so long now that I wonder if he either got help he needed or the show put him over the edge with the farm or something else...

>>150699079
Unfortunately true. South Park would be NOTHING without Cartman

>>150695641 (OP)
Hard to say, but I just wanted to mention I was thinking recently about this show and it feels like the black friday/console wars trilogy was the swan song of SP. A great story of the kids being kids with outlandish exaggeration. It probably wasn't that long after that everything became like it is now, I think they caught the serialization bug in the season after which then led to the season after that being the big trump one.

>>150700135
Yeah, that kinda sucks
>>150703122
Well, the Labubu episode came close

>>150702026
Sure, but not every episodes needs him, like the Labubu one

>>150695641 (OP)
kyle episodes but i'm biased because i love him
that being said, there are some really fucking god-awful kyle episodes

>>150704370
Like Ginger Cow?

>>150699913
The way you describe Stan makes him sound like Sharon

>>150697251
Well, yeah, obviously, but that wasn't the choice. OP is asking you to choose between soup and salad, not soup, salad or a a slice of pie.

>>150704681
My choice is Kyle, but it's by a hair

>>150704370
CUTEST cartoon brothers!

>>150705230
To think he used to kick Ike

Kyle could neg-diff Stan in a fight, it's uim

>>150695641 (OP)
Stan focus episodes are great
the facebook episode, the pope rabbit, the whale wars, guitar queero, jacking in off san diego, the dance episode, anything stendy, the post covid special he is the mc, etc, those episodes are great because of him, you could also add the inception episode but its kinda more a mackey one, or the satanic animals

its hard to think about Kyle episodes that are great because of HIM and not because its an stealth Cartman episode
in general Kyle comes across as a whiny faggot
>>150705982
Stan is a jock and beat everyone on the bebe boobs episode

Both Stan & Kyle are really boring as characters.

>>150706542
I never considered how much Cartman plays into Kyle's likability
Also, he had a bone. Doubt he'd win with his bare hands
>>150706555
No they aren't

It was funny seeing Kyle fart in a tent in Volcano.

>>150699173
What episodes have Cartman win?

>>150707455
Off the top of my head, Scott Tenorman, La Petit Tourette and Ginger Cow

>>150706555
>>150706995
I don't agree either, but the main problem is that Matt and Trey think otherwise.

>>150707617
They don't?

>>150695641 (OP)
Who wants to see Wendy have an episode?

>>150707522
Ginger Kids as well

>>150708417
Eh, barely call that winning.

Stan is undeniably the worst out of the four boys.

>>150708672
Episode-wise, right? For me, it's hard to say.
Kenny clears all of them, though

>>150695641 (OP)
The episode Mystery of the Urinal Deuce was a kyle episode so kyle

>>150695641 (OP)
Most of the Stan episodes are carry by Randy being Randy, and Kyle episodes are either carry by Cartman or Canadian slander

>>150708881
>Randy being Randy
Randy's a dogshit character, but okay

>>150708852
It's hard to pick who's better. Depends on my mood

>>150707522
Cartman 100% lost in La Petit Tourette

>>150696631
>Kyle episodes usually involve Cartman.
Into the trash it goes.

>>150709281
How? Kyle saved him from embarrassing himself

The true question here was Stan in the wrong for taking a 2 in the urinal?

>>150709777
Dude, no normal person would even think of doing that.

>>150709332
You don't like Cartman?

>>150699079
This is a thousand percent true. When the show first came out Cartman was who everyone cared about with Kenny a distant second. The show would not have succeeded without Cartman.

>>150710359
Wonder why they've pivoted away from him somewhat. Randy and Trump aren't as good.

Remember when Stan randomly farted in the pilot and all the boys laughed?
Why can't they be that close again?

>>150711076
Kyle also had a bunch of fart gags in season 1 and in the season 3 Starvin Marvin episode, being only second to the Fartman in mountain town gas warfare.

>>150711101
>Kyle has the second-most fart gags, next to Cartman
The Kyle-Cartman parallels grow...
Also, it must stink in that tent lol

>>150695641 (OP)
Stan for me.

The depression episode is both him and Kyle but to me it's Stan focused and probably the best example of portraying depression, especially in how people who don't understand just flat out ostracize you from society.

>>150711233
My friend can't even rewatch it without crying

>>150711233
It's definitely a litmus test for what Stan stans could or couldn't take as too much for him. Ones who didn't quit at the first part cursed Trey for having him drink alcohol in the second, as now it would only raise the chances of him following in his dumb dad's footsteps.

>>150711142
Thinking again of that one infamous artist who'd draw Kyle like a pear shaped fat lady and have it so that he couldn't lose weight after the Warcraft episode due to his beetus. She? He? stopped short of making him a gassy bitchy braphog, even though his ass being even bigger than Cartman's would make for some deadly bombs.

>>150695641 (OP)
Stan has the better storylines most of the time. Kyle can be very annoying. At his worst, Stan is just boring.

>>150711449
He becomes more like Randy in Post Covid, with him not only shifting blame for Shelley's death but also using the same defense for his drinking that Randy does

>>150711961
Makes sense, given Stan's tied to Randy (boring sometimes) and Kyle's tied to Cartman (annoying sometimes)

>>150711494
Kyle doesn't seem like the braphog type. Unless it waa to deal with Cartman

>>150704456
yeah, also human centipad and basically any episode where the central plot is "kyle gets tortured"

>>150711494
artist name?

>>150695641 (OP)
>Stan
>a jew
anon is clearly baiting.

>>150695641 (OP)
Depends on who is suffering more in absurdity.

>turd sandwich
>giant douche

>>150712487
Yeah, Butters torture is funny, Kyle torture isn't

>>150695641 (OP)
Every South Park episode
>Cartman: [something retarded and controversial]
>Stan: That's fucked up dude!
>Kyle: Yeah that's fucked up!
They are the same character.

>>150712597
A Kylesister says it's a "Dustsmote"

>>150712874
*Dusksmote

>>150712743
Kyle is more passionate than Stan. Kyle will actively oppose whatever Cartman's doing while Stan mostly sits back unless it affects him. Right there is a difference between them

>>150712957
Stan also lets Kyle get wrekt often, but Kyle's done his share of that to Stan too

>>150713004
I thought it was the other way around, where Stan is more dependent on Kyle

>>150697217
Exactly the opposite for me

>>150713190
For me, it depends on my mood

>>150695641 (OP)
I honestly think the dramatic music they've been using over the years can be kind of jarring, I miss the twangy stuff

>>150713425
Well, they used it prominently in the early seasons, which they hate

>>150712487
Humancentipad was disgusting but I liked the b-plots
Butters sharing his ipad with Kenny was cute

>>150713549
I still don't get why, the earlier seasons were great, they're rougher around the edges but that's part of the charm

>>150713019
kek

>>150713604
They thought the show would get canceled around that time. They'd basically erase everything before the movie if they could.
>>150713593
Butters and Kenny are naturally cute

>>150713636
Like I just said!

Remember when they felt like friends?

I hate that south park is heading to the The Eltingville Club direction with group recent dinamycs

>>150714131
What does that mean?

>>150695641 (OP)
Stan has the more passive personality, so a lot of his better plotlines deal with him be forced into an absurd situation and not being able to say no. Think Margaritaville, whale wars, got served, Stanley's Cup, or forest critters (I know this was a story Cartman made up, but he got Stan's personality down to a tee). There's a lot of him getting told what to do, and I think it works because he has more patience than the other boys. That's why the ending of Margaritaville is funny, because even Stan has his limits.
Kyle is more outspoken and active when something is wrong. That's why he always has to call out Cartman when he's being an asshole. I think the episodes that highlight this best are also Ike episodes. Ike's teacher, Ike's brisk, taming strange. Ike's teacher is a great example because he really feels like a sane man screaming into a void with that one. Crack babies is also a good one because it plays with his moral compass.
I think I have to give it to Stan, because his able to tolerate so much bullshit often leads to great comedy.

>>150714314
Had to look up Eltingville just now, I guess he means how the main 4 have been clashing in the more recent seasons?

Goodnight bump

>>150695641 (OP)
It's a close tie imo.

I'll forgive the current season if they somehow incorporate a reference to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3uPS4k8LCA. It'd be on-par with the other political commentary, but nobody would expect it

I think South Park's earliest episodes, while having a nostalgic charm for that era, aren't exactly good compared to much of what came after. Really it feels like if they came out for the first time today (but every other adult animated TV show had the same history), they wouldn't be anywhere near as liked. Back in the mid 90s, it was more of the novelty of animated kids being really crass.

I think Stan episodes have tended to hit harder though. The one with him coaching the hockey team is a classic.

>>150695641 (OP)
South Park has sucked since 2006. None of it fucking matters.

>>150697138
Seasons 2 and 3 were so awesome. And to think that Trey & Matt consider those to be their worst. It goes to show how blind their are to their own talent.

>>150695641 (OP)
A better question is, who has cuter feet, Stan or Kyle?

>>150714387
Yeah, they aren't as close

>>150715971
Plus, Stan's cuter

>>150716357
Stan. Kyle already has a good ass

>>150712670
My thoughts pretty much

bump

>>150716357
Ew...

>>150695641 (OP)
Easily Stan. He felt closer to Trey Parker's home life, and the show focused more on the Marsh family, making Stan kind of the protagonist of the series, but with Cartman's overwhelming popularity, they had to pump out more Cartman episodes. Shifting the focus to him. Kyle, on the other hand, is kind of underwritten; he's Jewish, and that never becomes relevant to the plot. Can you describe any of his characteristics besides kicking his brother in the early seasons? Yeah, you don't have much for him. Even Butters has more character than he does. If I'm not going crazy, I don't think there's been a Kyle-focused episode since season 17.

>>150718038
Last episode was Kyle-focused and several episodes have his religion at the forefront

>>150718038
Also, if you want a character who's underwritten, Kenny's right there.

Anyway, think Wendy could get an episode?

It’s been two weeks since the last episode, doesn’t that mean there’s supposed to be an episode this week? Why are some websites saying it’s going to be on the 15th?

>>150718648
>the 15th
Maybe they're pushing it back to be topical with Windows 10 going EoL

>>150718665
Windows is going down?

>>150718821
W10 will just stop getting updates, unless you live in the EU or give Microsoft $30 (or... Bing points, I guess?). Defender, helpfully enough, will still get updates for at least another three years.
I was kinda joking that Matt and Trey were delaying to make the episode all about that, but who the fuck knows...

>>150718903
Can it be tied to Trump or Satan in any way? If not, than I doubt they'll cover it.

>>150719102
Kyle's got that jewty

OK but which characters out of them all would make for a definitive superior trio that don't rely on the story carrying them?
>main trio composed of 3 flavors of troublemakers between streetsmarts one, leader, smart/tomboy/soul one. You know the Ron,Harry,Hermione kind of trio.

>>150718535
She might make an appearance next time Trey's daughter suggests an episode topic

>>150719319
So it'll be another fun kids being kids ep like the Labubu one? (half of it, anyway) Nice!
>>150719317
Craig, Tolkien and Clyde

>>150719317
Kenny, Cartman, and Butters, not even a contest since they're the best

>>150719317
Garrison, Cartman, Kenny.

>>150719378
Oh you mean Craig, Token black boy* and Clyde.

>>150719426
How did I forget these 3 were a trio? Sptwt even calls them the fart trio

>>150719476
His name is Tolkien

>>150719378
>So it'll be another fun kids being kids ep like the Labubu one? (half of it, anyway) Nice!
Yes. Betty Parker is our last hope for comfy South Park

>>150719633
My name is Token.

>>150719317
>That pic
You sneaky bastard.
Max, Kyle, Jerry would actually work really well since Jerry is the Stan tie-in and Max is the Cartman-tie in.

>>150719909
She looks like zoomer Jucika.

>>150719909
She'll have to get past her dad and her dad's friend's obsessions with Trump first.
>>150720002
Everyone (except Stan and Randy, who didn't know) refer to you at Tolkien.

>>150720029
I can't get over how Betsy didn't have her jacket this episode. Kinda weird.

>>150720022
Who're Max and Jerry?

Anyway, what do you think Betty Parker could be into that'd warrant an episode?

>>150710757
I know they said they were getting older and felt like they could connect with the adults more so Randy became the main character. Even though he's just le random wacky cartoon character with weed jokes. Trump is just pure Trump Derangement Syndrome.

>>150720382
https://north-park-creations.fandom.com/wiki/Max
https://north-park-creations.fandom.com/wiki/Jerry

>>150719157
It is known

>>150720957
I'm semi-familiar with North Park, so thank you. Kinda wish Matt and Trey drew from it.
>>150720955
>random wacky cartoon character
aka the exact same shit they went after Family Guy for
As for Trump, you have 3 depictions of the exact same guy! Technically 4, if the Heidi-Cartman thing counts.
Not counting him in The Entity, given he wasn't prominent yet.

>>150719317
OH SHIT KYLE IS SIDESHOW BOB

>>150721020
Was is Stan or Bebe who drew that?

>>150719317
>>150719426
Actually, I'd like to expand on this a bit since I'm also a Potterhead. Cartman is Harry, the leader. Aside from that natural charisma ("There's no need to call me sir, professor") and tendency to take charge, they're completely different. But Cartman IS South Park, you know?

Kenny is Ron. The protagonists best friend, always in his shadow. Poor as shit and vulgar as hell, quicker to fight than to speak, but he understands the world they live in better than anyone and is loyal to a fault.

Butters is Hermione. Has the intelligence and work ethic to ensure that the protagonists plan pulls through. A bit of a pushover due to their sensitive and softhearted nature, but can also be downright devious to the people they dislike.

(I'm talking about the book versions btw, the movies made Harry a saint, Ron a dumbass, and Hermione a Mary Sue)

What's funny to me is that despite these parallels, Ron/Hermione are constantly bickering like an old married couple while Kenny/Butters have more of a Harry/Ginny dynamic (the thought of Cartman/Karen just popped into my head and now I feel ill). Butters irrationally adores Kenny while Kenny just sees him as a classmate, Kenny becomes protective of Butters (rather like Karen) but still just sees him as a friend of his friend. But as they spend more time together and begin empathizing with each other due to their shared experiences, Butters also becomes more confident and outspoken, displaying his true self to Kenny who realizes that he likes what he sees.

Fuck I gotta cut this short and go, but again reminder that I'm talking about the book versions, movie Ginny was a cardboard cutout that Harry started liking just because.

>>150721189
I want more Butters/Kenny. Fuck it, do what they did with Creek

>>150721116
Kenny

>>150721275
Nah, he'd stare at playboy.
Or Butters

>>150721344
I meant the image came from an in-character tumblr post where Kenny rates a bunch of the guys he fucked

>>150721275
Craig actually since no belief.
N O P O R T U G U E S E

>>150721473
Oh...
Well that explains the dick comment

>>150721491
Why would it be Craig?

>>150721344
Dubs of truth

>>150721962
That's such a Butters move

>>150721974
It so is.

>She has a bow in her hair? Wuh-well I'll have THREE!

>>150718665
>>150718903
Nigger just get extended security updates through microsoft activation scripts and you're good for next 3 years, it should take like 5 minutes or so

>>150722306
Would Butters dress as Marjorine for Kenny?

>>150722822
Yes, that's what I was implying

>>150722630
Microsoft ruins your fucking PC. It ruined incognito for me, I keep getting network clutter and suspicious activity.

>>150719317
Kyle, Jerry Max. Interesting 1D, 2D, 3D dynamic too.
Kyle is the avatar for the viewer who talks like a normal person and is quite dull.
Jerry is kind of a 2D cartoony character like emo Bart Simpson, but with Stan and Kenny's personality.
Max is ... 3D as hell and multi purpose. It's like taking a 3DPD /tv/ movie's character and shoving it into a show like South Park. Otherwise known as Mr Garrison.

Both Stan and Kyle do not feel like Butters, Jimmy, etc. which feel like cartoon characters. They feel like mouthpieces.

>>150722902
I hate how we'll never see Marjorine again

>>150722979
Stan has more dimensions than Kyle, if I' being honest

>>150723011
Hello Kitty Island Adventure became a real game after 17 years, and Butters' Easter bunny pajamas made a comeback after 18 years. Never lose hope, my friend

>>150723250
They'll do it, but their TDS will fuck it up somehow

Anyone else kinda cynical about the future of the show?

Sad how the main 4 feel like near afterthoughts in their own show.
It took 5 episodes for a main 4 member outside Cartman to have an A-Plot AND for the main 4 to have a scene where they're talking together

>>150715978
Not true.

>>150724160
Yeah, the show is still hanging on

Wanna have 2 lesbian kids in South Park?

>>150724943
Hell yeah, everything's better with lesbians

>>150725114
Yeah, South Park's kind of a sausage fest. Why not let the girls have more to themselves?
Fuck, what if this is what the season's building to?

Maybe Heidi swears off guys and hooks up with a girl

bump

>>150723772
No

>>150721473
How does he rate the other guys?

>>150726432
I mean, the show is half good and half fallen off

Easily Kyle. Stan is just depressed and cynical now.

>>150726539
Stan is pretty much an angst machine now

>>150726674

Its a shame. He made that future two parter unbearable.

>>150726763
I meant more in the fan's eyes, to be honest. Stan isn't depressed and cynical all the time.
But I'd say Randy's more annoying than him.

>>150726812

He's been pretty cynical and grumpy ever since "Ass Burgers".

>>150724943
Sally and Esther, who happen to be tired of being mistaken for being related to Red and Kevin.

>>150726834
Yeah, but I'd rather have that than Randy "Peter Griffin" Marsh.
>>150726849
Fuck me, that's a great idea!

>>150695641 (OP)
Neither

>>150726889
>>>150726872

>>150695641 (OP)
If you choose Stan over Kyle, Israel is going to continue committing genocide.

>>150726935
Kyle is anti-Israel, tf are you on about?

>>150725150
I don't see how, it's clearly building up to Satan's baby

>>150725590
Well, Red is apparently a fan of both Gelphie and Chapelle Roan, so maybe...

>>150725590
She should fatten up another girl so they can both be fat dyke slobs together

God i know realize they have been using the season 5 models to this day at least for the kids with little to no changes.
Redesign when?

>>150728884
saaar

>>150695641 (OP)
Are these two hypocrites for criticizing Cartman?

>>150695641 (OP)
Stan tends to have more variety, so him. Kyle episodes too often also double as Cartman episodes.

>>150727851
I feel like the reason they didn't bother with updating the kids designs, like they did for the adults back in seasons 11-12, is because they're a lot smaller in size.

>>150727175
Here's the problem: I don't give a fuck
>>150727295
Nah, I want Heidi to be with someone else who isn't taken.

>>150727374
>Heidi's fat and farts a lot again, this time being a lesbian with another braphog
;)

>>150719317
>>150721189
>would make for a definitive superior trio that don't rely on the story carrying them?
These 3 assholes.

>>150726504
The blog died in the great tumblr porn purge but the reviews are still up https://www.tumblr.com/buttsupreme/tagged/kennys%20guide
The Kyle one doesn't open from that link so here's a direct one https://www.tumblr.com/buttsupreme/150467089154/kennys-guide-to-south-park-hookups-kyle?source=share

>>150730844
It doesn't show for me.

Technically boy-related, but Wendy giving Butters a makeover!
Feel like Red should replace her, though

>>150727374
Or she gets with Samantha Dunskin and they laugh at each other's farts and queefs. Or Lisa Berger and her too-high pants.

>>150731294
What about Samantha Dunskin and Heather Williams (girl who farted in PE)

>>150731294
Don't think Lisa Berger should be near her. Photoshop turned her into a total bitch.
But the girls laughing at their farts/queefs sounds funny

With all the callbacks recently, who do you want to return next?

>>150731497
The Cotswolds sibs, they were allowed to go to school after all but we only ever saw Mark for a while. Their whole angle could still resonate with MAGA homeschoolers if their parents try to withdraw them again, or other shenanigans going on with schools and sheltered kids rn.

>>150731535
>MAGA homeschoolers
Outside that part, I wanna see them return.

>>150730978
Might need a tumblr account

>>150731615
Already have one, it didn't show when I clicked the link

>>150731624
Did you set "show mature content on"? Or your birth year as older than 18?

>>150731675
Don't remember. I'll have to check later

Who would have a better episode; Craig's gang or the girls

bump

Any hope of Stan getting an episode and not just a few lines?

>>150731947
What if an episode where it's just Craig and those guys vs. the girls, and the main guys are just in the background or irrelevant

>>150732556
Well, the main 4 have taken a backseat for most of this season, so I'd say it could work

Who's a cuter henchman, Butters or VD Vance?

>>150732971
Personally, it's Butters. Vance is only cute because he's tiny. If he was taller, he wouldn't be seen as that.
Post Covid Butters is still cute

>>150730720
>Nigger ginger

>ginger spells out nigger if you rearrange the letters.
HAHAHAHHAAHAHAAAAA THE LEGENDARY GINGER NIGGER.

>>150733263
South Park would never say the n-word again.

bump

These are fun to explore:
https://north-park-creations.fandom.com/wiki/Special:AllPages

Well, since the topic has been brought up, I have a question.
How do I get good at story writing/comedic storytelling? I watched many episodes, read many books, and tried my hand, but I petered out. I know an actual visual medium is very different to a text format, but I still want to try to be as comedic as South Park. Any advice is welcome.

>>150733651
Part of me wants to show this to Sptwt, but I know they'd flip the fuck out with some of the stuff there
>>150734011
I personally have no clue. I guess don't act all preachy like Matt and Trey do nowadays

bump

>>150734071
You can post images without the link to it if you're scared of them raiding the wiki and there's plenty of proxy accounts if you don't want it associated with you.

>>150734011
You need to try writing higher than Trey Parker because if you rewatch South Park you'll see how weak the storytelling and plots actually are compared to Trey's original inspirations for them.
>Okay but how do I get good at comedy?
Yeah for that you need a personality and sociopath manipulation skills and don't worry about the "visual" nor "audio" medium. Trey's voice "acting" isn't exactly acting material beyond the music telling you how to feel which often times in S1-S3 they don't even use incidental music and the kids stare blankly like a bunch of autists whenever someone talks to them and they don't react.

As for storytelling... plot summary/shell , always plan out your story... unless your story is very loose and you're decent at improvisation.
And I'm guessing your problem is "Okay but my story has original ideas, how do I write it..." in which case read more books, watch more movies which come close to your plot summary and characters so you can judge yourself. I understand that people who write can never judge what's good and bad about their writing and either go full "This is 100% terrible" or "This is 100% good" never in between.

You'll notice how Trey gets less spontaneous with his writing and more cliche as he goes on.
You'll notice how SP becomes a parody of itself with always badly executed plots like Wendy x Stan. Trey is too gay to ever write a normal straight relationship despite them being pretty much like closefriend relationships but everyone refuses to admit that because they didn't have a gf that lasted more than a month.
>read many books
Which books did you read?

>>150734316
Wish they let other people write episodes, but they're afraid other people could write better than them

>We'll never see Butters and Red together OR Marjorine return becauce Matt and Trey waste all their good ideas
Pure suffering

>We'll never see the alternate pathway plot where Kyle gets Heidi as a gf
Taking Heidi and turning her in Trey's own words "Cartman but with the energy to commit" which is Cartman between Scott Tenorman and till S14 with the Cthulhu finale so Trey forgot his own characters.

Pure suffering. What was the point again of taking a random backgorund girl and just ovewriting her personality as Cartman 2.0 ? and when she wasn't Cartman she was ... exceptionally boring and nothing like shitbags the girls were in the first few seasons. She reminded me of the diabetes girl which pretended she wasn't 1 dimensional, bitch you're totally 1 dimensional you watch The Mandalorian for Baby Yoda, that's the definition of 1 dimensional.

>>150735216
Well, she was a shitbag in Stick of Truth with the abortion clinic rumor, but the girls are inconsistent as fuck.
Also Heidi deserved more prominence than Randy

Trey's writing reminds me of Naruto and YuGiOh.
Spontaneous and acceptable in the pilot and first few seasons with very short story arcs, then it becomes too structured for its own good and it just keeps repeating the same fucking storybeats and ideas over and over again while skipping entire content it could have done.
>Neji vs Rock Lee fight
>Naruto vs Rock Lee
>Neji vs Gaara
>Sasuke vs Rock Lee rematch
>Giving Sakura some powers
>Hinata vs literally anyone who isn't Neji

>>150735344
Yeah, this season is literally retreading the Saddam jokes they already made.
Love how 4chan allows you to actually discuss South Park critically without being concerned with updoots or likes

>>150735344
>No Byakugan vs Sharigan
What the fuck was wrong with Kishimoto?
>No Kenny and Wendy interaction
>Barely any Wendy & Kyle interaction
>Plenty of Cartman x Wendy interaction instead where Wendy literally kisses Cartman but Stan still doesn't canonically kiss her.
What the fuck is wrong with Trey?

>Trey keeps trying to kill off Kenny despite Kenny having plenty of personality outside of behaving like nuBatman and being used as a prop gag.
What the fuck is wrong with Trey?

>>150735660
Add to the fact that Kenny and Wendy's only interaction was in The Scoots. Fucking embarrassing. Wendy in general is heavily underutilized
Also, Trey gave him Mysterion after "permanently" killing him off

Do Matt and Trey really hate Season 20? Because this season has the same failings of it
>Serialized story (not as heavy as S20, but still)
>Lack of the kids
>Trump every episode

Bump

Anyway, Wendy's underused

>>150736875
Yes, Stan should be ashamed of himself

>>150734316
>Which books did you read?
The usual: Hitchhiker's Guide, Catch-22, A Confederacy of Dunces. There's this really good one I like called "Good Omens", but it's British.
I've also been rewatching Monty Python.

>>150737209
Is that some roundabout way of saying Trey?

>>150709777
After that episode someone took a shit in the urinal on my Middle School

>>150695641 (OP)
Who has the sexier mom, Stan or Kyle?

>>150737478
Did yoh have someone like Mr Mackey talk about it on the loudspeaker

>>150737515
Sheila's down for kinky stuff without much problems, it's her

>>150737536
A teacher realized that the person who did it had taken the idea from South Park, and there was a meeting to discuss the issue. Everything got out of control because that’s when our parents found out that the boys bathroom stalls didn’t have doors (something that extended to other parents from another grades) and it all ended with the principal giving a public apology at another meeting in front of the whole school.

>>150737632
That sounds hilarious

>>150737209
They should have Stan actively work towards treating her better

>>150737842
why? Stan being a shitty boyfriend is way funnier

>>150737864
I guess it only works when they act their age. (Gluten Free Ebola, Raisins, etc.) Otherwise, it feels like a discount Randy and Sharon

bump

man, 3 weeks huh? If this next episode isn't better than sex, I'm jumping ship

>>150738657
Agreed. I'm struggling to hold on every episode

So we all agree Sheila's hotter than Sharon, right?

bump

Well, time to make a comfy thread

>>150740476
this is the comfy thread

>>150740717
Well, there aren't a ton of people over here...

>>150740868
And there isn't going to be a ton of people in the comfy thread either until the next episode nears release.

but please, don't let me stop you.

>>150740893
Well, the 3 weeks waiting for an episode sucks...
Maybe if they drop a teaser or something

>>150740932
Like, they dropped a teaser for the last episode? Fat Chance.
Face it, comfybro, they threw in the towel, literally. The season is going to last till November, they have way more budget, yet the episodes will still feel rushed and not as expanded on.

>>150741004
Actually, it'll last until December.
But yeah, the episodes feel mid for 1.5 billion dollars

>>150729078
In what way they are hypocrites?

>>150695641 (OP)
I DON'T KNOWW

>>150742872
https://youtu.be/Zm4Y4EV2gso?si=s5pmCScOU8VfBYPg&t=39

>>150737577
Figured. She's not uptight as she seems with the right words and moving a little closer to Jersey.

>>150733238
>Post Covid Butters is still cute
lmao he's literally an old man with a moustache, that is not cute in the slightest, in fact its disgusting. old people are gross. they look gross, they talk gross, they smell gross.

>>150737259
Rofl then how do you expect to get good at humour? read more books and not the average garbage. Good Omens is not a good book.
I myself am having problems writing detective stories cause I cannot find my characters' motivations sound enough. I need to consume more puzzle media and more detective media. Figuring out original The Riddler style puzzles is indeed hard as shit and you need a lot of SPECIALIZED experience in that 1 subject. Same with comedy since there's all kinds of differents kind of comedy and trying to copy just 1 type of comedy will end up in problems if you want to copy another's special type of humour. Luckily Trey isn't very good at comedy. South Park was always a 6/10 show at best.
You can do hypocritical preachy humour, just look at Moral Orel ... and how comedy is drama's sister.
Monty Python isn't 100% SP humour, but it's 90% since it's just as ridiculous and spontaneous.

>>150695641 (OP)
NEXT EPISODE WHEN? Do not make me consume AI slop.

>>150742333
They chew out Cartman but still hang with him, I guess.
>>150743643
Fuck you, he still is.

>>150744116
Next week. Until then, Matt and Trey bounce on dick

>>150744598
Speaking of, I finally got to that Tumblr blog.
They should've brought back porn

>>150737632
Kek, that sounds like a SP episode in itself.

>>150697251
I respectfully disagree.

>>150745176
Hey, I watched this the other day! Easily one of the best episodes of the entire run.

>>150744116
It's amazing how they went from completing an episode under a week to being lazy fucks because "muh election".

>>150745217
And people will practically deepthroat them for it

>>150745217
Nice lol. Completely agree.
This and “Make Love Not Warcraft” were probably my favorite episodes.
I wish they’d go back to fun misadventures stuff

>>150745428
>I wish they’d go back to fun misadventures stuff
Matt & Trey: D-don't you get it? We can't have fun adventures when we could fight a fascist regime!
Just change the intro to be about Saddam-Trump. At least then you won't pretend South Park is about the kids anymore

>>150745531
Man, they really have fallen pretty far away from where they were, huh?

>>150745590
What's ironic is it contradicts their attitude after S20
>"We fell into the same trap that Saturday Night Live fell into, where it was like, “Dude, we’re just becoming CNN now. We’re becoming: ‘Tune in to see what we’re going to say about Trump.’” Matt and I hated it but we got stuck in it somehow. This season I want to get back to Cartman dressing up like a robot and [screwing] with Butters, because to me that’s the bread and butter of South Park: kids being kids and being ridiculous and outrageous but not “did you see what Trump did last night?” Because I don’t give a … anymore. We probably could put up billboards — “Look what we’re going to do to Trump next week!” — and get crazy ratings. But I just don’t care."
Granted, they still made fun of Trump after with both Garrison-Trump & Heidi and Cartman, but at least not every episode centered around them.

bump

Who do you want gone from the show?
Can't be Trump or Randy to make it hard

>>150711076
>>150695641 (OP)
>>150697138
>>150697704
>>150700135
To be honest for me Stan and Kyle became lame when they stopped being jerkass kids. I like how in the older seasons Stan, Kyle and Kenny used to banter with each other and not just with Cartman. After like season 7 or something, it became Cartman vs the rest of the kids. And it's not even edgy banter anymore, it's just Cartman and the others genuinely hating each others presence. Stan and Kyle only rip on each other if they're having a fight and even then it's played seriously instead of kiddish banter

>>150746406
Although it's rarer, the kids still have moments of banter. Though since you admitted you haven't watched the show recently, it's understandable.
Another criticism you have that's blatantly false is the belief that all the other kids are just boring goody-two shoes.
>Clyde became an alt-right podcaster and made the entire school hate him
>Red used Butters to get a Labubu and the girls summon Satan
>LITERALLY LAST EPISODE all the kids make bets on if Sheila will bomb Gaza, ignoring Kyle's moralizing

>>150746789
Nah I meant in a more kiddish way
>Bullying Pip and Butters
>Making fun of Kenny's poverty
>Kyle writing an essay about putting poor people in camps
>Framing their parents for molestation (not knowing what that word means)
Okay maybe kiddish is not the right word but you get my point.

>>150746406
The "buttmonkey Kyle" moments got more grotesque just for the sake of it too after season 7 or so

>>150746867
I remember Big-Will put some update on his site reminding people to not let their kids watch South Park, claiming a little kid he knew got their parents falsely charged with molestation from getting the idea from the show. Such a vague, insane loredrop there.

>>150746867
Feels kinda like goalpost shifting. Your complaint was that the kids are just goody two shoes and you bring up this. Can you elaborate further?

>>150746285
Clyde because his visual design is very boring, like moreso than actual background characters I see
Sargent Harrison Yates because I miss Officer Barbrady, but I'm fine with him staying
Kevin McCormick not because I hate him, but because it would finally give me the release of foolishly thinking Kenny's family will get any spotlight on them again. At least Karen has something going for her

>>150747560
I get his design is boring, but he's a fun character
Yates and Barbrady used to co-exist, so there's nothing stopping that from happening again
Kevin is criminally underused and it sucks

>>150746910
Also coupled with his inability to keep a girl. The loser kids have better luck than him

>>150746918
Thats'... stupid

>>150746406
The faggy emotional piano music in every damn scene since season ten doesn't help either.

>>150748325
Part of me wants them to make fun of that music and use the old transition cues

Anyone else wish the girls were more distinct?

bump

>>150748091
Will really saying stuff like that and not even giving vagueness on if it went to court or if the dad's name was Albert Einstein.

>>150749103
What a dumbass

>>150748601
No, I like the girls being a single monolith of stereotypical girl interests. I like not having single and defined characters, but vehicles for stories about how the girls of today are going through weeiiiiirrrdddd and waaaaaacky turmoils.
I love the few times where a girl does get to show off individuality, they are clearly a one off or are only relevant when it comes to relationship storylines when even those plots are few and far between

>>150749195
Is that sarcasm? I genuinely can't tell

>>150748601
About as the boys, yeah. The times they'd tease Wendy kind of having her own group were intriguing, like the boobs episode having her, Bebe, Annie, and Red meeting up at the start. Missed opportunity to have Red and Annie laugh at her boob job in the end or look dumbfounded.

>>150749254
I kinda wish the girls weren't just treated as a monolith. Like, an episode solely around them and not just Wendy.

>/co/ck suckers: we want a girl's episode
>Trey Parker and Matt Stone: we have the girls' episode at home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxRjPMHBUs8

cartman

>>150749362
I at least want girls other than Wendy and Bebe to be distinct outside of headcanons/small moments. Is that too much to ask?
Also, this scene was hilarious

>>150746867
Scott Malkinson is the new Butters, he has diabetes

>>150747362
I don't know, even considering what you just said, Stan and Kyle are still boring goody two shoes. Those two aren't starting a racist podcast anytime soon.

>>150749532
Yeah, but this guy complains all the kids are goody two shoes, not just Stan and Kyle. Plus, it'd be out of character for them.
>>150749522
Even KYLE laughs at his diabetes

>>150749362
>/co/ wanting a girls episode for years, posting bus stop lineups like pic related
>We actually get a girls episode with a bus stop lineup
>It has 2 literally-whos rather than Bebe and Red
This triggered me

>>150746867
>Kenny's poverty
>molestation episode
You know, I'm a little surprised that Kenny's parents didn't put up more of a fight when getting arrested.

>>150745638
That really is unfortunate. Is that how it’s going these days? Just political every episode? I think the last time I watched it was around season 25.
Personally I found the whole tegrity era boring enough to stop watching, then I picked it up for a little bit but couldn’t really get into it.

>>150749584
Imagine the missed opportunity of seeing Heidi bully Annie and taking cheap shots at other girls in the school, just to get even more of a sense why Wendy would root against her in the school fight.
Maybe the Cartwoman would even mock the recolor kids as looking like the lazy copies they are, which would get her in trouble for invoking the 4th wall.

>>150749656
Didn't she insult the girls in a previous episode? The one where they're at lunch?
Either way, Heidi deserved better than being a background character after her arc while other undeserving characters are kept around longer/
>>150749627
Well, they have actually good ideas for A-plots (Butters getting Red a Labubu, Clyde being a podcaster, the whole betting app) but they shove Satan and Saddam-Trump in every episode. And now they have some dumbass serialized plot about Satan's butt baby that JD Vance doesn't want to be born (I'm not making this up)

>>150749551
You know what, I'll put it this way. Remember that "drugs are bad m'kay" scene from season 2 where Stan, Kyle and Cartman make fun of Mr Mackey's lisp and the entire class laughs? If that came out today, this is how it would go.
>Mr Mackey: "Drugs are bad, m'kay."
>Cartman: "hehe..pfft HAHAHAHAHHAA hey did you guys here that? (imitating Mackey) "Drugs are baad mmmkay" HAHAHAHAHAHA!
>Rest of the class: poker face
>Kyle: Knock it off Cartman!


https://youtu.be/KQirKUtGCYo?si=xoLjyVdky43JSD8i
This scene sums up what I'm talking about. nobody, except for Cartman (and Butters with that sneaky smile) laughs or pokes fun at Clyde

>>150749758
Doesn't the entire 4th grade laugh at Kyle's moralizing in Super Hard PCness?

>>150749901
A one off incident, and they make it seem like that was something that affected Kyle deeply. Whereas in the older seasons, Kyle would have been mad but would have just childishly cussed out Cartman instead.

>>150749931
What about when Bebe beat up Butters for cussing her out?

this entire series has been ruined when I realized how evil jews really are and cartman is just their eternal strawman

>>150750034
What?

>>150750071
He's right.
>>150750034
I think the decline of writing is the worst thing about it. I like tiny JD Vance though.

>>150750116
How is he right about Jews?

Bump

>>150750181
Nta and while I'm not an anti semite, that s26 episode where Kyle gives a speech about why Jews have so much power in Hollywood felt like it was excusing practices like nepotism among certain ethnic groups.

>>150750827
Eh, I wouldn't dwell on it too much

I like how they aren't relegating the women to just foils for the guys or boring straight men.
Sheila flew off the handle again and Red manipulated Butters while being adorable

bump

Wendy fart scene when?

>>150752550
That would redeem South Park for me

>>150752550
>Wendy hears that Heidi could outfart Cartman and gross him out
>She makes sure to eat a loaded burrito that'll give her some gnarly gas that'd make wallpaper peel and flowers wilt
>Unleashes her power on Cartman
>He cries but is strangely impressed

>>150712631
Then Stan because I don't think Kyle ever has a more absurdist suffering moment than Stan being forced to help a pre school Hockey team beat a pro adult team just to get his bike back.

>>150753045
>Cartman goes on and on about how girls can't fart, and their farts would be weaker if they could
>Wendy shows up behind him on cue
>Unleashes her brap, like in pic
>Cartman wants to outdo her

>>150753064
Wasn't Kyle made into a human centipede because he didn't read the Ipad terms and conditions?

>>150753314
Fuck, you're right I'm retarded.

>>150753156
>Cartman braps so intense it warps everything back to S1E1 at the bus stop, starting everything back in a stable loop

>>150753462
Not sure it'd be a stable loop, but going back to the pilot again could be cool

Which one has the cuter plushies?

>>150745531
I still don't get why they hate Trump when the left is literally organizing rallies the murder Jews and one of them is Jewish.

>>150753965
*rallies to

>>150753965
>>150753985
He ruined Season 20.
Also, they have TDS and the show will likely go down the route of other late night shows

>>150754112
What happened in Season 20 again?

>>150754270
They had an entire plot that they scrapped when Trump won.
Looks like we have a lighter (but more annoying) serialized Trump plot

>>150754296
>Trump winning an election they thought he would lose is somehow more damning to them than actual radicalization of the youth to become mass murderers
I just don't get it.

>>150749254
>Missed opportunity to have Red and Annie laugh at her boob job in the end or look dumbfounded
what if they looked aroused?

>>150754399
Shit if I know.
>>150754448
So they're bi, then?

>>150754448
Annie was already shown lovestruck over leather girl Wendy in Tom's Rhinoplasty due to animators interpreting her as a boy, and she was used for "Jordan" (scripted as a boy) in Conjoined Fetus Lady. That'd just be following in the trend of making her the accidental bi, gender-confused queen.

>>150754555
>accidental bi, gender-confused queen
If they actually play into that in an episode, it'd be peak

>>150755573
feet

>>150696402
>>150695641 (OP)
Stan episodes are genuinely sad or good Pre-Tegridy.
>An Elephant Makes Love to a Pig
>Trapped in the closet
>You're Getting Old+Assburgers
While Kyle is kind of an incel, for lack of a better term.
>

>>150755573
I can see their asses

>>150757637
Now that was a peak episode for lolifags

>>150758292
It's not enough for me

>>150756954
You think her and Alexa are related?

>>150758292
South Park would never pull something like this again

>>150758544
Such a tragedy

>>150758582
They're probably afraid their wives will get on their asses for sexualizing girls or some shit

Why don't you guys just make your own South Park?

>>150758620
Some people have with this thing called North Park, but it hasn't been able to get of the ground

You think the Saddam-Trump bit will last even after the season ends?

>>150758635
I believe North Park already exists in-universe, unless those people have it as a spin-off in mind.

>>150758842
Yeah, it's a spin-off sort of thing

bump

>>150696402
I thought you were going to say Stan. I would say Stan episodes are better based on your description.

>I'm the only one who knows something obvious and nobody else will listen
This one applies to both of them though.

>>150759124
And Wendy.

bump

>>150695641 (OP)
either or honestly

>>150759672
Whoever I think is cuter at that time

Which one would make a better girl?

Crackpot Idea:
Wendy accidentally farts on Stan, making him vomit. It's left ambiguous whether he did it out of disgust or attraction

>>150760392
After she accidentally farts on him a few more times, she straight up asks him directly. It's revealed it's both

>>150755596
Kyle's not an incel, he just has terrible luck with girls

>>150761028
Why can't they give him a girlfriend that actually sticks?

>>150760103
Stan would leave you on read while Kyle would nag you all the time, if I had to then I think I'd pick Stan

>>150761091
Because that's Stan's gimmick. He gets the turbulent relationship plots.

>>150761107
I just realized that would give them more reason to kill Kyle in Kenny Dies. They considered killing Kyle off due to how similar him and Stan were at the time

>>150761123
I wonder how different the fandom would be if that had happened? Would Style live on as a niche ship like Dip, or would Stanman and Stenny be the big dogs?

>>150761314
I don't know. I don't imagine Style dying off, so Stanman would probably be on top.
Kenman and Stanman fans would duke it out constantly

>>150761314
Fuck, that'd be a cool AU.
Though, how would they bring back Kyle? Kenny has the fallback of immortality, Kyle doesn't

>>150761821
That's the funny part, they potentially wouldn't.

>>150761856
We need a South Park What If Series. Like, what if Marjorine stayed at Heidi's slumber party of Bebe actually shot Wendy

>>150761821
That's the thing, Kenny was originally supposed to be perma-killed. They brought him back due to popular demand, but I don't know if enough fans would have given enough of a shit about Kyle at the time to bring him back, though nowadays the idea of Cartman and Kyle being forced to share a body seems like comedic gold

>>150761927
I imagine they would care more for Kyle than they would Kenny. Kenny was more of a prop who died every episode, no offense to him

Do not make me watch AI sloppa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuZhR4gTIMU

>>150761123
They also considered moving Kyle away in season 4 and even made a teasy update about it on SPS, how one of the boys was planned to move away and who would replace them.
Supposedly CC vetoed writing Kyle out both times, okay'd Kenny but then got mad when they wanted to do it "for good", then told them to hasten up his return with the whole soul thing. Otherwise they'd have done musical chairs with other 4th group members for the rest of season 6 and had even wanted to carry it into season 7 or as long as they could do it.

>>150761955
>Kenny was more of a prop who died every episode
Yes, but Kenny was still memorable as the poor kid who was always dying, while Kyle at the time was more like Stans satellite. If you were around in the late 90s you'd see Kenny just about everywhere, whereas you'd only see Kyle in group shots

>>150761821
There was like one turboautist furry Kyle The Skeptic who did a rather self indulgent fic about Kyle dying due to a heart issue from his T1 diabetes then Kenny has to help bring him back/give him some of his immortality.
The author was very up his own ass though and had a ragefit about other fans to where he wrote a fic where Stan was the only decent person in South Park and everyone else died or were idiots as his "take that" to everyone who didn't see him as an amazing writer.
It's a creative prompt other writers could've taken on for sure, or would be interesting to see as a "What if" for how the group would cope or not if one of the other boys kicked it.
>A "Kyle Dies" scenario
>"Stan Dies"
>"Cartman Dies"
>Everyone dead except Kenny

>>150761976
You know it's funny because South Park originally started as a "Can you believe the garbage they air on TV and people watch, like Angela Anaconda?"

>>150761955
kek yeah, Matt Stone even put out statements that he was just an orange blob and was sick of voicing him. It got CC execs mad and he and Trey later had to pretend like they totally never planned to kill Kenny off for good.

>>150762074
Wow, they didn't like Kyle that much, huh?
>>150762103
Yeah, wasn't Stan more of a main character than Kyle in the first few seasons? But I don't imagine Kyle would be forgotten that easily
>>150762146
Well, part of me feels like they should've found better uses for him or actually have the balls to keep him dead

>>150762190
Yeah officially, Tratt would later say they saw Stan and Kyle as interchangeable and too similar for why they considered taking away Kyle by moving or death.
It looks like they managed to differentiate them enough by intensifying the "Kyle and Cartman bitch at each other" plots as one thing to start, along with other points.

>>150762217
Also, Kyle is more passionate than Stan, who's more cynical and laid-back

>>150758292
You had one girl entirely naked on the loveseat too

>>150762307
South Park needs more lolifag pandering. The Labubu episode wasn't enough

>>150762142
Yeah but surprisingly unlike Angela Anaconda's 2/10 show, South Park ended up miraculously being a 6/10 show, similar to The Simpsons 8/10 show, albeit I still consider Life With Louie a 10/10 if The Simpsons is an 8/10.

>>150762610
Yeah, South Park undeniably fell off, but it's not painful (although it's getting there)

>>150762307
The first evidence of Craig's faggotry?

>>150763070
Definitely.
Also, holy shit, she's really nude

>>150763070
What if Kal was Isla's skankier cousin

>>150763070
Those cushions must smell heavenly.

>>150763703
Think she warmed it up by farting on 'em?

>>150762103
They even made fun of Kyle's lack of character/motivation on the SP BLU movie posters, where they had each boy's slogan be "He's doing it for [x]". Kyle's was "He's just doing it."

>>150764037
The idea of Kyle having no characterization feels so foreign nowadays

>>150764094
It's wild to even think he was the 2nd frequent brapper of the "fearsome four" or "scamps" as the old fans and SPS would refer to the four as.
Now he'd be all neurotic about it.

>>150764155
Come to think of it, Stan and Kyle probably think farts are juvenile now, given they're adults in kids bodies.
Butters and Kenny still probably do.

>>150695641 (OP)
Gotta go for Kyle, but many of Stan's episodes are some of the best of the serie

why is there always a faggot talking about farting in these threads

>>150764235
SPGirls Fartfag seems to like anonymously breaking his containment and wind on other socials. Perhaps he's trying to be the new "draw my OCs that are Stan and Kyle's kids" Ric guy with a bit related to his hyper specific fetish.

>>150764235
This is South Park, there's bound to be degeneracy. Plus, the show itself has fart jokes, so...

>>150764279
>OC's that are Stan and Kyle's kids
Can you elaborate?

>>150764235
Those are “comfy” threads for ya.

>early kyle had no personality
He always seethe over cartman the most tho. And feared his mom (before that trait was taken by butters with his parents).

I always found funny how Kyle and Cartman got along in Assburgers but Stan couldn't stand Cartman as his new "best friend" in Prehistoric Ice Man

>>150764707
That was before their personalities were defined. Modern Stan wouldn't mind

>>150707455
he seems to think he won in casa bonita. it's the perfect ending so i have to agree.

>>150764966
Yeah, episodes where Cartman thinks he wins are good

>>150764966
Ditto with Cartman Sucks.

>>150764429
A man named Ric122 would love to spam people with requests to draw him a Stendy son named Sam Marsh and a Kybe son named Levi Broflovski.
He also wrote incest of the moms with their sons.

>>150764966
Yeah, they cut the extra part where Sheila and the others scold him and he's thrown out. Just leaving it there was fine for the wacky episode it already was.

>>150765536
Oh...

>>150764037
Huh. I think this just unlocked something for me, how I developed a crush on Kenny as a little kid despite never actually watching the show or the movie. I thought he was creepy looking at first, but after seeing this poster I knew he was the goodest boy

>>150766151
Kenny was always best boy

>>150696402
>or it's hard being a jew right now
It's too distracting to take these episodes seriously, it's the biggest flaw of kyle episodes, if it weren't for that kyle episodes would clear but i think stan takes the cake.

>>150766485
Why is that a dealbreaker for you?

bump

bump

So...
anything else you wanna talk about?

>>150768987
no i solved the thread, thanks for asking though

>>150769194
Aw...
Well, I think Matt and Trey are getting lazy. These episodes feel like they're written in a week despite taking double/triple that time

What are the chances Matt and Trey have TDS?

bump

>>150749362
>two literal whos instead of Bebe and Red

Lame

>>150770989
Redbros won in the Labubu episode

>>150769771
They should get Fart Derangement Syndrome so fartguy has more material

>>150771098
Why give fart anon more material?

>>150771129
It's a different kind of trump

>>150771464
A better kind. I'm that desperate to escape Saddam-Trump

>>150766151
I used to think Kenny had long brown hair covering his eyes

>>150760103
neither because they're boys
boys are cuter anyway
>>150761093
ew
>>150761123
>>150761314
if they had killed off kyle i honestly probably wouldve killed myself 6 years ago because kyle was the only thing i had to live for at that point, and if he'd died in season 5 i wouldn't have had him
>>150761821
why the fuck would it be cool?

>>150772700
Someone on Xitter once drew him like that, with a brown bob in saying that's what they thought he'd look like under the hood.
Funny thing is I also know a girl who said one of her friends mistook Shelley in Chickenpox for Kenny for some reason and thought "Kenny is an ugly girl with crinkly hair?"

>>150695641 (OP)
You guys don't get it, this is a trick question and there's no answer because neither have had any episodes in the past 8 years

>>150774741
Last episode was a Kyle episode

>>150768987
North Park does a good job similar to South Park in doing some things and sidegrades, but completely missing other things you'd expect. Even in the character bio section you can see how a bunch of characters never interact with each other, similar to most cartoon shows but still an obvious flaw.
https://north-park-creations.fandom.com/wiki/Special:AllPages

>>150775402
Yeah, they're missing dynamics

Crack idea:
Butters dresses as Marjorine just to fart on girls
He also likes when his skirt flutters

>>150775402
>>150776072
Advice for fixing this issue then?

>>150776748
Maybe have less characters and try fleshing out their dynamics. Having a bigger cast isn't great if you don't know what to do with 'em

>>150776730
He does this mostly to Wendy

>>150775402
I wasn't here when North Park was made, what are some memorable things from it?

>>150773460
>if they had killed off kyle i honestly probably wouldve killed myself 6 years ago because kyle was the only thing i had to live for at that point, and if he'd died in season 5 i wouldn't have had him
.....Dafaq?

>>150695641 (OP)
Kyle because many of his stories involve Cartman or Kenny.
Stan as each year progressing is the worst of the 4
>Cartman
>Butters
>Kyle
>Kenny(my personal favorite but they just use him less and less)
>Stan (he became the Jannetty long before tegrdy.)

>>150699117
I cant think of many cartman loses episodes where it compares to his most notable win.
Show me one loss that matches STMD

>>150699435
I'm so pissed off that that old blind faggot named big will deleter the board. All my posts from 2003 and 2007 gone. Not even archived anywhere you cunt. Never liked that big old faggot anywhere.
-Official retired number one asshole of BBS and never a mod but creator of half the rules with the mods.
Also niels I feel like you are more reddit than here. I still remember you stalking me a decade later you weird fucking loser.

>>150777950
"Cartman Sucks"
The entire episode is him self sabotaging with no one to blame but himself.
Awesom-0 is up there too as a Butters wins episode

>>150777950
Breast Cancer Show Ever. Spends the entire thing acting like an egotistical grade-a jackass only to get the shit beaten out of him by Wendy

Funny scene idea I just came up with:
Cartman wants Butters to crop-dust Wendy for him. Since it's nothing minor, he does it without much pressure
Wendy's disgusted, so she gets Bebe to fart on Butters in revenge

Any hopes for next episode?

Remember when Kyle saw that Cartman was trying to fly by jumping off the roof and immediately said to jump and that he could do it? Or how about when he encouraged him to go to Somalia? I miss that Kyle. When did he change to what we have today?

>>150779862
Isn't that always how Kyle is? He always feels the need to rain on Cartman's parade

>>150777979
Damn you knew Niels too, huh. I remember him and his group stalking a gender confused guy named Eric and then a teenage girl one of his friends tried grooming. When you pissed him off he went full scorched Earth, these days I hear he goes after autists on Deviantart instead of blocking them right away if they rankle him.

>>150779766
Idk, Damien mention or something?

>>150780408
Pretty likely, given Satan having a baby. Wouldn't hope for it too much, but what'ya know?

>>150780577
Oh sorry, the Damien comment was meant for you

>>150780731
No problem, let's hope they dust off some lesser loved characters the rest of this run

>>150780804
They gave Red a major part, fucking RED. They brought back Wing. I'd say there's a chance

Why doesn't Garrison fuck Trump to death again?

>>150781754
I remember someone on r/southpark saying Rick should get deported, which would lead Garrison to fuck Trump to death (again) and fuck Satan to get rid of the baby

>>150777509
There's a literal cripplefucker.
There's a cripple Hitler who said cripplefucker was supposed to fuck to death Garrison style, but nobody made art of that.
There's a schizo conspiracy theorist cripple with a gun that thinks some rapture event will come and kill all the cripples. He got memed into some egg-laying xenomorph and the handomest boy getting shipped with Posey despite the fact them having no chemistry.
There's this homeless boy who canonically if you let him in your house for too long you turn poor yourself. He supposedly keeps away all the frog people from taking over North Park just by his presence.
There's the 3 composed of Jerry, Chaz, Mandy who often have a 4th member every week.
Jerry is this smug laidback guy who's other times an asshole with a heart of gold who's up to no good.
Chaz is the troublemaker who's into milfs and not very popular with the kind of ladies he's after.
Mandy is the tomboy with a soul and a troublemaker.
Max needs 5 pages to explain character, but otherwise he's quite a dynamic and interesting character.
Melville is the glasses kid who pretends he's smart but isn't. He's supposed to be a normie avatar for the viewer who just tries to do things normally like a straightman but it always backfires on him.
Posie is this overly happy sunny sideup optimistic caretaker and other times a nosy busybody.
Sometimes the characters' personalities dramatically change during their literal RPGs sessions they play out just like Stick of Truth.

>>150783174
This is why North Park needs an official animated series on Youtube or something

>>150783217
What about Middle Park?

>>150783497
IDK, maybe

bump

>>150769771
Too high. Treading back on to old gags just to shit on Trump instead of just keeping president Garrison is a major red flag.

>>150785273
In my opinion, separating Trump and Garrison was a good move. They outright regretted reducing one of their best characters to a Trump parody

bump

bump

>>150695641 (OP)
Are these two really best friend though?

>>150788970
I guess, but as the show's hyper-focused on topicality, their friendship kinda fell to the wayside

>>150788970
>>150746406 is pretty on point.

Oyakodon with Sharon and Shelly!

They're turning the goddamn squids gay!!
https://north-park-creations.fandom.com/wiki/Monsieur_Calamari

Eh at least they're not zombifying:
https://north-park-creations.fandom.com/wiki/Maizeby

They've got maid girls!?
https://north-park-creations.fandom.com/wiki/Maid_Girls

>>150695641 (OP)
Which one of them is the better character?

>>150775402
That's due to lack of art and writefags, especially lack of writefags... and also lack of different artistic people willing to use each other's characters in different ways.
It's why Trey overspecializes in something and sucks ass at the other 50% and 90% of things he needs to do.
South Park fanfics have already covered 99% of what South Park doesn't cover while ironically not being capable of 100% reproducing Trey's style because you're not Trey, not even Matt can write like Trey.

>>150777509
All you have to know is that North Park is a magical place.

>>150695641 (OP)
Stan

It's unlikely to happen, but It'd be nice to have an episode where Stan finally gets sick of Shelly abusing him and physically and verbally assaults her, put his bitch of a sister in her place.

>>150795425
Shelley hasn't done that to Stan in a long time, though. At least not on screen.

>>150795288
South Park is safe-edgy shit now.

Someone drew Shelley farting on Stan and now I want it to be canon

>>150695641 (OP)
Kenny.

>>150796639
Especially Princess Kenny

South Park? More like Sellout Park!

>>150797891
Good one, Mung!

Labubutters

>>150797891
CARLO- nevermind

>>150763070
Can't believe I missed that, my horny teenage ass scanned every corner of those scenes

>>150802490
Cute! CUTE!

>>150802768
You missed a loli being naked?

>>150796201
>Stan breathes a sigh of relief that Shelley hasn't beaten him up in sometime
>She uses the opportunity to fart in his breathing space and cause him to puke
>Cutbu approves

>>150804251
And then she teases him that he likes it, given Stan hasn't puked in a while

>>150796201
>>150804251
Fucking disgusting turds...

>>150804615
'K, but Shelley would do that in canon, right?

rip