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Anonymous No.150814874 [Report] >>150814882 >>150814908 >>150815062 >>150815942 >>150816072 >>150816153 >>150816765 >>150817050 >>150817327 >>150819554 >>150819969 >>150822416 >>150822758 >>150822824 >>150823936 >>150825277 >>150834193 >>150839129 >>150839614 >>150844556 >>150845342
Hunter: the Parenting
Discuss this hag and that she's like 30-35 years old, and where to procure equivalently mentally unwell, dyed-hair anime-addicted femcels.

Also HtP, I guess, discuss that as well.
Anonymous No.150814882 [Report] >>150815045 >>150815160 >>150817327 >>150817822 >>150821676 >>150825214
>>150814874 (OP)
>hag
She's younger than me.
Anonymous No.150814908 [Report]
>>150814874 (OP)
BUILT for breeding the next Dark Flame Master and Dark Smoke Puncher.
Anonymous No.150815045 [Report]
>>150814882
Look on the bright side, she probably has daddy issues and you could be old enough to channel that.
Anonymous No.150815062 [Report] >>150815078
>>150814874 (OP)
Longer hair is hotter
Anonymous No.150815078 [Report] >>150815254 >>150815267
>>150815062
Short hair makes her more vulnerable to hickeys. Really what I need to know is if she’s got a massive blue bush that reeks of ammonia because she wipes back to front.
Anonymous No.150815160 [Report]
>>150814882
Lord Fatigue? Didn't the Garou make you explode into a meat typhon? Are you contacting us from beyond the abyss of death?
Anonymous No.150815254 [Report] >>150815267
>>150815078
>Grimal with hickeys
>tfw you'll never be some extremely unfortunate Toreador fledgling hiding in shithole England because your Sire has lots of enemies and you're a perfect way to mess with her, and, therefore, need to keep a low profile
>you'll never, out of fall in standards and mild hungy desperation, go from wooing models in London clubs to macking out with some very inebriated, blue-haired anime superfan in a pub in literal nowhere, Great Yarmouth
>you'll never somehow flip-flop from being the one to oh-so-suavely pinning her against a wall in some seedy alleyway, to getting practically assaulted by five feet three inches (if she's got a hat on) of sexual and romantic desperation that craves human contact and only has a a fairly enthusiastic corpse to work with
>you'll never burn through more blood than you hoped to drink from her just to maintain Blush of Life for as long as you can, all because this is the first time in your fairly brief unlife that you get the same rush of want that you felt while alive
>you'll never fall in a really weird rhythm where she actively doesn't question why her 'boyfriend' is nocturnal and is kind of cold to cuddle against, and you, on top of slowly becoming very comfortable with the boyfriend angle, don't question how is it that she so quickly heals from the hickeys you abudantly leave on her neck, how she's got the stamina to ride you raw every evening, especially when shitfaced, and why is it that whenever she's the one biting into your neck, you feel like she's trying to tear your jugular out
>you'll never find your own, damn firm and honed beauty standards adjust to where Grimal's the peak of them, no matter what she's got on - some dumb cosplay, a maid outfit, baggy sweatpanst and a shirt, both of which she stole from you, as if it's not kind of graverobbing
Why live...
Anonymous No.150815267 [Report] >>150815528 >>150815930
>>150815078
>>150815254
holy shit you fags go get laid like seriously
Anonymous No.150815528 [Report]
>>150815267
I think that's exactly what they're trying to express
Anonymous No.150815877 [Report] >>150815930
>>150815863
>Back on topic though. The audiolog suggests our girl is a Red Talon, but a lot of people really question it, since she'd have to be the most tolerant Red Talon in existence to endure being a maid under humans, especially like Remold.
They use a whole bunch of W5 stuff in this audio log, so there's a good chance that she might be a W5 Red Talon, which means that she doesn't haven't to be Lupus and might not be inherently genocidal either.
Anonymous No.150815930 [Report] >>150815962
>>150815267
And where could a man find a horrid, clingly, possibly smelly, annoyingy nerdy, womanchildish, obnoxious woman with most probably a very blue jungle in her pants and a future lined with wigs because dying her hair so often is killing it? Where???
Back on topic though. The audiolog suggests Matilda is a Red Talon, but a lot of people really question it, since she'd have to be the most tolerant Red Talon in existence to endure being a maid under humans, especially like Remold.
Anons, what are your bets on what she is, if not a Red Talon?
>>150815877
She's still exceedingly tolerant even by W5 standards of Red Talon behavior. She could've pulped the entire Chapter House if she felt like it, but she didn't, and while the obvious Doylist explanation is 'a random mook killing every protagonist but Door and Boy isn't very fun', narratively they could've had her be pushed back, as opposed to playing with her food, klling nobody, besides maybe Git who might bleed out given his missing hand, and Fatigue, who could've gotten pulped by somebody else still (even if she's the most probable culprit at this point). It's a real stretch. I guess plausible, but, still a stretch.
Anonymous No.150815942 [Report]
>>150814874 (OP)
Built for Big Brok Cock
Anonymous No.150815962 [Report] >>150815985
>>150815930
Matilda is a by-definition Bone Gnawer until someone in the writing room decided to red herring with her scar or spitefully change her tribe because they don’t like the audience being smart enough to put the basics together.
Anonymous No.150815985 [Report] >>150815996 >>150816350 >>150816529 >>150820587
>>150815962
Thing is Bone Gnawers would be less caustic than Matilda. When it comes down to who would side with the humans if the Garou decided to go Impergium 2, Bone Gnawers would be amongst the pro-human side.
Anonymous No.150815996 [Report]
>>150815985
Which is why her stating “should’ve done it Stig’s way” and accepting “just because you can doesnt mean you should” while in war form lends credence to the idea she was OVERWHELMINGLY patient with the Arcanum to be a maid cleaning up after them for so long.
Anonymous No.150816072 [Report] >>150816151 >>150816179
>>150814874 (OP)
I really am curious how many more TTS expies will show up in the show? I know that Kitten’s bros will be the Pillarstodes. Not sure who his sister will be yet. Also I want more Ross, they’re currently doing the whole mysterious figure shit like they did with Russ for a few seconds before he stepped into the light and mocked Fydor for having no wolves. Zoran does a good job at switching tones like that.
Anonymous No.150816151 [Report] >>150816529 >>150817048
>>150816072
He’s a Black Spiral Dancer working for Pentex so the real question is who’s worthy of being mocked by a genocidal executioner with no hope of a happy ending for anyone and just wants the world to fucking die?
Anonymous No.150816153 [Report] >>150816514
>>150814874 (OP)
>where to procure equivalently mentally unwell, dyed-hair anime-addicted femcels
Anime cons
Furry cons
Shitty service industry jobs (like mcdonalds) and shitty stores related to whatever stupid obsessions they have.
I fucking love girlfailures, they are so easy when they hit 30
Anonymous No.150816179 [Report] >>150817035 >>150817324
>>150816072
>Not sure who his sister will be yet.
Maybe they had planned to introduce a Sister of Silence character into TTS and never reached that part?
Anonymous No.150816350 [Report] >>150820223 >>150828042
>>150815985
A lot of Bone Gnawers still regard humans as wasteful cunts despoiling Gaia and mock them and work against them even as they eat their scraps and live in their dumpsters.
Anonymous No.150816514 [Report] >>150816827
>>150816153
Anon detail your methodology thats vital research right there
Anonymous No.150816529 [Report] >>150820384
>>150816151
I'm not a big Pentex lorehead or Spiral Dancer lorehead, but maybe it's a matter of that he's clearly some sort of earnest and hateful believer, what with how much effort and glee he puts into murdering people. To him somebody who's on Wyrm's side purely for short-lived personal gain could be utterly disgusting, and an affront.
Or maybe he could shittalk Matilda and her pack, along with hunters, for being so stupid as to fall for basic, obvious conflict bait.
>>150815985
Could she just be a more rude than average Bone Gnawer? Seems more believable than her being the nicest Red Talon in existence, I'll be honest.
Anonymous No.150816591 [Report] >>150816612 >>150816648
I know nothing about Werewolf lore, but based on what people have been saying in these threads it really doesn't sound like Red Talons would even bother with a covert infiltration mission like Matilda was on in the first place
Anonymous No.150816612 [Report]
>>150816591
THE Red Talons as a group absolutely wouldn't, but this isn't a group of Red Talons, this is a pack of several tribes - so a standard player pack, basically. Somebody like that absolutely would channel the Totem of Tard and send their berserker on an infiltration mission because everybody else is tied up doing underwater basket weaving, beating up underground dog fighting ring owners, and doing other far more important things than infiltrating the Arcanum.
Anonymous No.150816648 [Report]
>>150816591
In older editions, most Red Talons consider themselves above mingling with humanity in any shape or form.
In the latest edition, most Red Talons focus on booting humanity out of the wilderness than infiltrating it.
However, if Matilda is in a mixed-tribe pack, then whoever is in charge of it might have compelled her to infiltrate the Arcanum. Alternatively, whoever is in charge is a Red Talon while she isn't, and marked her with his tribal symbol as a way of marking her as his servant. This Red Talon leader could have charged her with dealing with the Arcanum and infiltrating it was her decision.
Anonymous No.150816765 [Report] >>150816779 >>150816844 >>150816846 >>150818187
>>150814874 (OP)
Ignoring her personality, she's a degenerate ghoul.
Associating with her is asking for trouble.

Incidentally, what are the leading theories about how she became a Ghoul?
Was she forced, coerced, tempted?
If the last option, what reason could she have to reach for power with so many strings attached?
She cannot be a Ghoul without a Domintor.
I mean, she technically could I suppose, but that would mean that there is *another* supernatural being hiding among the Arcanum.
Since Kevin confirmed that the Lady Regent has a thrall spy implanted in the organization.
Anonymous No.150816779 [Report] >>150816821 >>150816846 >>150817688
>>150816765
She’s not the ghoul, she was dominated by the ghoul.

Elise is the ghoul.
Anonymous No.150816821 [Report] >>150816875 >>150823511 >>150823907 >>150826294
>>150816779
Her.
Grip.
Penetrated.
Through.
Ceramic.
Tiles.
And.
Into.
The.
Wall.

That.
Feat.
Transcends.
Mundane.
Humanity.
Anonymous No.150816827 [Report]
>>150816514
My methodology is seeming to be somebody a desperate 30-something girlfailure would really want, and using that for my purposes.
So, get in shape, get a decent job, dress nice, and get confident enough so you don't just immediately drop your spaghetti when talking to a reasonably attractive girl.
You might ask me "You expend all that effort, why bother with girlfailures then?"
Well, they are easy. Me just being there and doing small token gestures is enough for them cling to me and allow me to do pretty much whatever I want to them.
Now, I don't really go around abusing them, but as soon as they start talking getting steady, I drop them.
Anonymous No.150816844 [Report]
>>150816765
>Incidentally, what are the leading theories about how she became a Ghoul?
>Was she forced, coerced, tempted?
Go back and check on the discussion she had with Kitten. it foreshadows everything.
>If the last option, what reason could she have to reach for power with so many strings attached?
She's desperate, weak, a fuckup, the one person who seemingly loved her abandoned her, she was stuck in an old patriarch house while doing research and felt suffocated, she's still trying to prove Kuei Jin even exist, she's failing. Hell, you can just say she's failing full stop, and with D research burnt, she probably wouldn't know shit.
>She cannot be a Ghoul without a Domintor.
>I mean, she technically could I suppose, but that would mean that there is *another* supernatural being hiding among the Arcanum.
Its just the regent, don't overcomplicate it.
>Since Kevin confirmed that the Lady Regent has a thrall spy implanted in the organization.
Yeah, K.I.S.S. principle. She's very clearly the ghoul, if you just pay attention to every reaction of hers, you'd realize she was
>spooked to shit with Occam
>spooked to fuck with the polygraph
>generally fidgetty as shit
>completely unimpressed with being inside the archive versus everyone else going for the first time
>literally did not give a single fuck about anything
>burnt by magicks
>switched around the cig pack behind her back
>Matilda likelly couldn't have gotten the data on the cig pack if she tried really
>even on the visual split you see her eyes go up and fidget as if asking if she got away with it
>regenning getting backhanded by a garou and her chest crushed

Grimmal is the ghoul. I say this with full authority as someone who picked up Matilda was a wolf since like day 1.
Anonymous No.150816846 [Report] >>150823250 >>150823511
>>150816765
Anon, Matilda in the best case scenario is a Bone Gnawer hobo and she's probably most popular woman of the fandom.
Nobody's looking for safe women here.
>Incidentally, what are the leading theories about how she became a Ghoul?
I've seen a good variety of them.
Most easy options include:
>something heartbreak-related; still into Kitten, wishing for him, for power to be with him again, on some level
Disproved, I think, by that she isn't exactly smitten with him in a 'ghoul whose lynchpin is love' way, and she clearly doesn't have her love for him be redirected towards somebody, since she does still clearly like him.
>desire for kuei-jin information from less reputable sources
I think a fairly likely option, given her complaints about working under geezers and not having the freedom Kitten does. She asked the wrong questions, looked into the wrong thing in public, and bam - she's ghouled by somebody who maybe even pretended to be a fellow Arcanum scholar. It'd tie into that one bit D had in an early audiolog, about that the Camarilla keep a vice-tight watch even for mere words.
>>150816779
Nah, Grimal is the ghoul, she's in a stable condition after a werewolf fucking bodied her. That's absurd toughness for a fairly small girl.
Anonymous No.150816875 [Report]
>>150816821
Hokuto Shin Ken is INVINCIBLE
Anonymous No.150816894 [Report] >>150816914
Y’all thinking too hard. When it comes to vampires and werewolves just look at the god damn names. Matilda’s last name was Wilde for fuck’s sake. It’s like they gave you a chinese finger trap but you think you’re in an escape room.
Anonymous No.150816914 [Report]
>>150816894
>Grimaldi
Anonymous No.150816919 [Report] >>150816945
It would be funny if everyone but Harry and the Blacklaws were secretly working against the Arcanum independently of each other and no one had any idea the others were working for vampires/werewolves/the Technocracy/the Inquisition/Pentex.
Anonymous No.150816945 [Report] >>150816982 >>150818222 >>150819226
>>150816919
Harry is so absurdly plain and uninteresting, down to having the worst VA quality (not the voice actor himself, though that also, but specifically the quality of the recordings, mixing and direction) that he has to be something supernatural. He's just so shit in every way. Fucker better be a fairy, let Elise capture him with her FAT ASS
Anonymous No.150816982 [Report] >>150816985
>>150816945
Harry = TOGO
Anonymous No.150816985 [Report] >>150817017
>>150816982
technocracy, delete this poster
Anonymous No.150817017 [Report] >>150817027
>>150816985
01101110 01101111.
Anonymous No.150817027 [Report]
>>150817017
01000100 01101111 00100000 01101001 01110100 00100000 01100110 01100001 01100111 01100111 01101111 01110100
Anonymous No.150817035 [Report] >>150817051
>>150816179
There were a few in the audio log where Wamudes cleaned out some sewers.
Anonymous No.150817048 [Report] >>150817722
>>150816151
I still think he’s undercover
Anonymous No.150817050 [Report]
>>150814874 (OP)
I am surprise that these guys were able to hire people who spoke Karay, even to this day this group lives in rural areas of the Philippines
Anonymous No.150817051 [Report] >>150817069
>>150817035
Oh man, I totally forgot about that log. That was one of the best.
Anonymous No.150817061 [Report]
So, how likely is that the other spy that was helping Matilda is just the fly we have seen a few times ?
Anonymous No.150817069 [Report] >>150817094
>>150817051
Though given how the Regent is a gender swapped Vect they could make her Santodes or something like that.
Anonymous No.150817094 [Report] >>150817146 >>150817215
>>150817069
>Though given how the Regent is a gender swapped Vect
...wait, you're telling me the Regent is NOT Celestial Shaman Queen?
Anonymous No.150817146 [Report]
>>150817094
The entire D-family would be dead within hours, minutes possibly, if it was the Regent who saw them hunt the Sabbat pack and then just merrily drive away. Whatever the Queen is, she's not the Regent.
Anonymous No.150817215 [Report] >>150817724
>>150817094
Yeah, I mean she looks like her but personality and character wise it’s Vect. She shouts for Timothy and calls Pollydora Dearheart which was the name of the guard that was with Vect in the Just Aeldari things vid (same VA as well).
Anonymous No.150817324 [Report]
>>150816179
Stern perhaps?
It could also be Celestine..

However, I know that, if D adopts Amanda as one of his children (hunter apprentices), she will undoubtedly grow into the Celestial Shaman Queen.
Anonymous No.150817327 [Report] >>150817347 >>150820003
>>150814874 (OP)
>>150814882
Friendly reminder that Grimal and Elise would be in their 50s now
Anonymous No.150817347 [Report] >>150817433 >>150817697
>>150817327
Grimal is ghouled.
Assuming she isn't vaporized or unhooked from the vitae in the interim, she would barely age.
Anonymous No.150817433 [Report] >>150817507 >>150817740 >>150817783 >>150820129 >>150832397
>>150817347
She'd just not age, ghouls are frozen in time so long as they remain on the blood. She'd also, since they'd presumably at least give her to Kevin, would maybe take on some of The Great and Mighty's mannerisms, a tiny bit, over time.
Meaning she'll be very blue, and Great and Powerful.

Hm.

Where have I seen this.
Anonymous No.150817507 [Report] >>150830813
>>150817433
Marie Canker?
Anonymous No.150817688 [Report] >>150823511
>>150816779
she was just said to be stable after being backhanded by a fucking hulked out warform.
Ghoul.
Anonymous No.150817697 [Report] >>150817760 >>150817763
>>150817347
ghouls dont age?
Anonymous No.150817722 [Report] >>150817748
>>150817048
It would be exceedingly difficult to pretend to be undercover as a woof in Pentex. As a BSD? Impossible. To even become one, you JAVE to dance the Black Spiral and that invariably fucks up the minds and souls of whatever does it, including greater spirits. Ross would need to have a willpower greater than actual patron totems to resist utterly losing it and becoming a caricature of himself from having danced the spiral.
Anonymous No.150817724 [Report] >>150817856
>>150817215
>Vampiric Vect
Huh... Yeah the dark eldar do kinda got the flesh shaper thing going on so it fits.
Not sure why the gender flip if true though.
Anonymous No.150817740 [Report] >>150830813
>>150817433
Grover.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhMZ-6zs0mM
Anonymous No.150817748 [Report]
>>150817722
Given its the Russ proxy we are talking about here, that is not impossible
Anonymous No.150817760 [Report]
>>150817697
No, they do.
However, while they are being fed vitae, they age incredibly slowly.
Anonymous No.150817763 [Report]
>>150817697
Yep. It's something Guy alludes to and which the books outright state - so long as ghouls get enough vitae, it freezes their aging.

This incidentally means that if a truly ancient ghoul ever STOPS splurging on vitae, they'll age up to their real age in the blink of an eye and probably die on the spot.
Anonymous No.150817783 [Report]
>>150817433
The great and powerful Grimaline need not consort with such dark powers.
Anonymous No.150817822 [Report] >>150842943
>>150814882
You're 36+ old
Wtf are you doing here in 4chan, adult man do something productive or kill yourself
Anonymous No.150817856 [Report] >>150817925
>>150817724
Tzimisce can fleshchange their ponos into vagoo
Anonymous No.150817925 [Report] >>150817984
>>150817856
Get out of here slaanesh. Back to deviant art with you.
Anonymous No.150817984 [Report]
>>150817925
Don’t look up Sascha Vykos.
Anonymous No.150818187 [Report]
>>150816765
I think Grimal is a ghoul, but not THE ghoul. Elise could have spiked her drink after the pub episode to make her more inclined to dominate.

Possible reason could be that the Regent would probably harm the arcanum in the future and Elise wanted to protect her friend by turning her into the regent’s new slave.
Anonymous No.150818222 [Report] >>150819167
>>150816945
I feel like that is kind of the part of his presence, he is a bit of a normal guy, in a way? Kind of like Kitten, but Kitten has his own autism, something which Harry lacks. I think he was very good in the bar subchapter, he just needs people to bounce off of.
Anonymous No.150819167 [Report] >>150819775 >>150820018
>>150818222
Kitten is normal guy (protagonist), he's the straight face but not the humorously straight face like Door. Harry is just normal guy NPC that's clearly there to for characters to bounce off of when Kitten isn't present. I picture that originally he was just going to be one of Marcus's friend for the bar scene and nothing else
Anonymous No.150819226 [Report] >>150819577
>>150816945
How could you hate Harry
He's great as a straight man to all the other wacko personalities
Alfabusa No.150819277 [Report]
Spit is the ghoul btw
Anonymous No.150819312 [Report] >>150819515
What if Togo is the ghoul?
Anonymous No.150819515 [Report]
>>150819312
Fuck off Togo not even the Regent would want you as a spy!
Anonymous No.150819554 [Report] >>150819577 >>150820055
>>150814874 (OP)
Carpet match the drapes?
Anonymous No.150819577 [Report] >>150820568
>>150819226
I don't hate him, he's just so extremely, vaguely bland and undeveloped. Everybody has something going on with them, not necessary wacko; Harry is just always there, always far more forgettable than everybody, always in the vague backline. It feels practically like some sort of very mild Obfuscation or maybe a reverse Presence of sorts; not invisibility, but unnoticeability. Which would be ideal for an infilitrator, since he's just a normal guy, you know? A regular lad. Nothing at all going on with him whatsoever. Nothing. A blank slate. Nothing. Nothing. Look at Grimal instead, please. Nothing.
>>150819554
She either shaves herself clean to be an uwu anime girl or it absolutely matches the drapes and is a mess because she doesn't get any action with anybody.
Anonymous No.150819775 [Report] >>150819921 >>150820569
>>150819167
Speaking of Kitten...
In TTS, He was supposed to be revived by the Proteus Protocol.
This was apparently supposed to do something truly horrid to his mind and soul.
In the most recent HtP episode, he made a declaration that he'll do *anything* to save Markus - even join with the Wyrm.
I expect that he will do exactly that, and that it will be a cute little parallel to what was planned in TTS.
Anonymous No.150819921 [Report] >>150820145 >>150822594
>>150819775
>Of two, one falls, one rises.
>Damnation.
Anonymous No.150819969 [Report] >>150820246
>>150814874 (OP)
I bet she purrs like a kitten under the touch of real person.

Repressed, mature/immature ladies are the most fun to tease.
Anonymous No.150820003 [Report]
>>150817327
NICE
Anonymous No.150820018 [Report] >>150820066
>>150819167
IIRC everyone in bar audiolog (Harry, Grimal, Elise, Brok, Git and Spit) were all originally planned just for audiologs but ended up being popular enough within the team that they decided to put them into the main episodes. Which is why that episode contains occasional weird details that don't line up with later stuff like how Grimal doesn't know who Brok is when she should very clearly recognize him though that could also just be further evidence of something being up with her.
Anonymous No.150820055 [Report]
>>150819554
Not unless she also uses hair dye down there. Grimal is naturally blonde.
Anonymous No.150820066 [Report]
>>150820018
I thought that Brok being security was a new development
Git and Spit were new, weren't they?
Anonymous No.150820129 [Report] >>150830813
>>150817433
>Meaning she'll be very blue, and Great and Powerful
>Where have I seen this

?...
Anonymous No.150820145 [Report] >>150820208 >>150820212
>>150819921
>rises
like Ascension? Mage, the Ascension perhaps?
Anonymous No.150820208 [Report] >>150820659
>>150820145
What sort of Magi do you guys think Magnus will mature into?
Entropy Sphere?
Anonymous No.150820212 [Report] >>150820392 >>150821423
>>150820145
>Kitten becomes a Nephandus and tries to drag Marckus with him into Descension
Anonymous No.150820223 [Report] >>150820333
>>150816350
Humans as a whole yes. Not individuals. They know the difference. The wyrm corrupted still need their just dues, but the average dude who is tossing their last dollar to them or the guy stuck in morning rush hour as a wageslave is as much a victim of the worm as anyone else and doesn't deserve the purging.
Anonymous No.150820246 [Report] >>150820340
>>150819969
That's her ex.
She's 100% crazy in and out of bed
Anonymous No.150820333 [Report] >>150820412
>>150820223
Nah, there's plenty who live in the bins of apartment blocks and ridicule the specific people who live in those apartment blocks because of how wasteful and consumerist they are. All of the stuff that they save from the garbage heap is trash thrown away by individuals in the end.
Anonymous No.150820340 [Report] >>150821703
>>150820246
Eh, whatever.

As long as she indulges me in my vices I can stomach her's for the most part.
Picking her up bridle style would be pretty fun though.
I hope she's down with hag roleplay.

I wonder if being ghouled means she can do even weirder stuff.
Anonymous No.150820384 [Report]
>>150816529
>Seems more believable than her being the nicest Red Talon in existence
>The "Whelp's Compromise" (Anti-Extinction Faction): This is a rare, small faction, often treated as an insult by the wider tribe. These Talons believe that some human inventions have value and that not all humans should be killed. A Talon holding this view would be considered a defector or near-Ronin and would likely face ostracism from their peers.

Given how HtP is really all about outliers, I believe Matilda is one of these Talon outcasts that is ostracised for being tolerant of humans
Anonymous No.150820392 [Report]
>>150820212
He'd pussy out halfway.
Anonymous No.150820412 [Report] >>150820587
>>150820333
Plenty but not all. If they were all 'fuck humans' then the only thing separating them from Red Talons is the smell.
Anonymous No.150820568 [Report]
>>150819577
>because she doesn't get any action with anybody.
Grimal pleases old vampires for vitae.
Anonymous No.150820569 [Report]
>>150819775
Honestly I thought they were gonna revive the emperor with the protocol and he'd come out something like if not exactly like Big D
Anonymous No.150820587 [Report] >>150821450
>>150820412
We're in agreement then, as I've only ever used the descriptors like "plenty" and "a lot" to counter posts like >>150815985 which treat entire tribes as single-minded monoliths. Nothing I posted applies to the entirety of a tribe.
Anonymous No.150820659 [Report]
>>150820208
Spirit likely I think. Maybe matter
Anonymous No.150821423 [Report]
>>150820212
The Force sphere.
Without a doubt.
>Energies associated with Forces tend to be yellow, orange or RED in color
Anonymous No.150821450 [Report] >>150821589 >>150821631
>>150820587
When it comes to WTA a lot of people miss the forest for the trees. Often just latching on to the superficial traits that a tribe or group has, playing into stereotypes, all that

Which is pretty sad honestly as all that tribes, even the Red Talons and Bone Gnawers which seem pretty straightforward. They all have a great depth to them that people just ignore or simply don't know about.
Anonymous No.150821588 [Report] >>150821853
Would you rather have Cammies or Anarches in your city?
Anonymous No.150821589 [Report] >>150821631 >>150821995
>>150821450
Are you that anon who gets butthurt when people talk about how retarded the Garou are?
Anonymous No.150821631 [Report] >>150821995
>>150821450
>>150821589
>all great traits to them
>still manage to be retarded
Just because Rapemaster, who thinks we should race war now gas all hummies, loves his kinfolk wife and kids and is an outstanding member of his Garou community, doesn't make him NOT retarded
Anonymous No.150821636 [Report] >>150821661 >>150821806
>Werewolves can survive being beheaded

Is that actually true?
Anonymous No.150821661 [Report]
>>150821636
In the sense that they can get their head back on their body in time to regen
But if the brain is destroyed they are dead
Anonymous No.150821676 [Report] >>150821688
>>150814882
What's the male equivalent for a hag?
Anonymous No.150821688 [Report]
>>150821676
Geezer
Anonymous No.150821703 [Report] >>150828949
>>150820340
There's also the fact that if she is a ghoul no amount of dick would ever compare to getting a single drop of blood from her domitor
Anonymous No.150821806 [Report] >>150821858
>>150821636
It's a W5 thing. A lot of the rules are vaguely written and it establishes that the only way to kill a Garou is by landing a killing blow with silver or burning them alive once they have been incapacitated.
No other form of damage, other than complete bodily annihilation, can permanently kill a Garou. It's like the myth of Osiris, if a werewolf is chopped in a dozen pieces, if they're reunited, the werewolf will regenerate.
Also, these two methods only work once you've incapacitated them. A .50-calber silver bullet smashing straight into a werewolf's brain might incapacitate it, but another killing blow with silver or fire is required in order to finish it off. Otherwise, regeneration will just push that shit out of the brain and the werewolf will be fighting fit in a week or two.
Anonymous No.150821853 [Report] >>150821923 >>150821986 >>150822108 >>150823105 >>150823693 >>150823904 >>150823994 >>150824025 >>150824692 >>150824952 >>150825584 >>150826907 >>150828153 >>150828497 >>150829590 >>150830900 >>150832994 >>150839190 >>150841557
>>150821588
Better question is, who are you stuck with?
Anonymous No.150821858 [Report] >>150822079
>>150821806
This is duuuuuumb.
Anonymous No.150821883 [Report] >>150822079
>want to play Werewolf: The Apocalypse

>Everyone tells me V5 is terrible

Why?
Anonymous No.150821923 [Report]
>>150821853
What's with the tiny pocket of Kuej-Jin in the middle of the balkans?
Anonymous No.150821986 [Report]
>>150821853
>no vampires/purged
Huh, lucky me I guess.
Anonymous No.150821995 [Report] >>150825719 >>150830588
>>150821589
No, I'm a different anon and the Garou are indeed retarded. But that's one of the things that makes them so endearing to me. A lot of werewolf books deal with how they're trying to deal with the rapidly changing world and how they're preparing for the evident apocalypse. However that's extremely hard for them due to their own nature and traditions. Like werewolves could reach out and help hunter groups or interact with humans more in general, but that'd be a violation of the Concord which is the ancient agreement werewolves made with eachother to let humans govern themselves. That kind of struggle is just delectable to me.
>>150821631
Again missing the forest for the trees anon. So many werewolves are violent retards because as a race they simply cannon deal with their own rage, guilt, and pride. As well as the fact that werewolves are not human or something humanlike but something completely different.
Take the Red Talons, everyone loves talking about how their genocidal extremists but never why they're that way. Well Red Talons all come from wolves there's not a human descended werewolf among their ranks. Now think about how much life sucks for wolves in nature, how many places do you know where wolves roam free without risk of their habitats and homes being destroyed, without being threatened by hunters? I'd be surprised if you needed more than one hand to count them all. Now include the history of humanity slaughtering wolves out of fear or simple convenience. With all that in mind it becomes pretty clear why Red Talons want to genocide humanity.
Anonymous No.150822079 [Report] >>150822136 >>150822240 >>150822970 >>150823072 >>150823196 >>150823820
>>150821858
It's pretty silly and it goes against the realistic, grounded mood that W5 tries to establish.
>>150821883
It's called W5 because it's Werewolf's (W) fifth edition (5).

In general though, W5 is disliked because it retcons and delete a massive amount of the strange, wacky shit that made the older editions of Werewolf so wacky and weird and to a lot of people, fun.
Werewolf tribes are no longer attached to different cultures. Anyone from any culture can be any type of werewolf, which strips away a lot of flavour in the eyes of a lot of people.
Werewolf breeding shit is cut out completely. Some people (and wolves) just randomly become werewolves because... Gaia wills it. No one knows. This means that kinfolk no longer exist, except as the name for latent werewolves. The metis breed no longer exists either.
Tribes have been watered down in ways beyond just culture. Red Talons are no longer wolf only and are just a generic "nature first" tribe. Black Furies are no longer female only and are just a generic "punish the wicked" tribe.
Because the project manager hated the Get of Fenris, they got turned into the Cult of Fenris, an antagonist tribe that represent the ultimate retardation of werewolves and what happens to werewolves who go too far trying to fight for Gaia.
The Garou Nation has been shattered and Gaia is officially dying. The Apocalypse is underway and cannot be stopped and it is a slow, torturous thing.The Garou have 100% lost and there is nothing that they can do.
The general mood and theme of the game is nihilistic acceptance of the inevitable and that the Garou can do nothing to save the world and that all they can hope to do is look after their individual human communities as the world slowly crumbles around them, that it's better to accept the Apocalypse with dignity and grace, than engage in extremism and rage against it like a mindless animal.
Anonymous No.150822100 [Report] >>150822141
why does every third sentence end with "__, yeah?"
is that some kind of verbal tick from wherever the creators come from
Anonymous No.150822108 [Report]
>>150821853
Scandinavia is actually Sabbat-Camarilla disputed and not Anarch-Camarilla disputed
Anonymous No.150822136 [Report] >>150823820
>>150822079
W5 turns Werewolf the Apocalypse from a wild and wonderful game about hilariously retarded werewolves with the absolutely wackiest culture raging against the dying of the light who will do anything to save the planet, to a game about bitter and defeated werewolves huddling in their local neighbourhoods, working nine-to-fives and only fighting back against the forces of darkness when their friends and family are threatened. Otherwise, they're content to let the world die.

So diehard fans of the older editions consider W5 an insult to everything that made old Werewolf the Apocalypse great.
Anonymous No.150822141 [Report]
>>150822100
it's a common lower class south English/Irish verbal tick, and the show is set in a predominantly lower class southern english place.
Anonymous No.150822240 [Report] >>150822282 >>150822402
>>150822079
Is fifth edition basically the AoS of WOD?
Anonymous No.150822282 [Report]
>>150822240
No that's Chronicles of Darkness.
Anonymous No.150822402 [Report] >>150822778 >>150822970 >>150823072 >>150823196 >>150823820
>>150822240
Sort of, in that it's seen as a bastardisation of what the World of Darkness used to be.

There's also the case of politics. While the World of Darkness was originally written by hardcore 90s liberals, things were different back then. They put a lot of value in individualism, authenticity, staying true to yourself and your values and refusing to be a sheep, a cog in the machine or a sell-out. Love who you want, be who you want to be and fuck anyone who tries to stop you. They thought a whole lot of weird shit about any non-US culture, but they also thought those cultures were cool as shit. There were "offensive stereotypes" about Asians and Native Americans because they thought those stereotypes were fucking awesome and worthy of respect, and fuck you if you disagree with them, they're going to write whatever the hell they want to.
The fifth edition abandons all of this in favour of inoffensive centrist rainbow capitalism. Anything remotely problematic is scrubbed out of the setting and replaced with messages of moderation and tolerance and centrism. Sexism, racism, homophobia or anything else? Those are sensitive topics that don't belong in the World of Darkness, they might upset someone. It's better to try to pander to everyone and try to make everyone feel welcome with a milquetoast approach, than it is to make something authentic and soulful and true to your beliefs and opinions. Your demographic must be everyone, even if that means all you can make is the blandest slop possible.
Anonymous No.150822416 [Report]
>>150814874 (OP)
I keep forgetting that this is taking place in 2006 and not in the unknown period of "now"
Anonymous No.150822594 [Report]
>>150819921
WHAT IS IT THOUST SEE…?
Anonymous No.150822624 [Report] >>150822654
His stuff was better when he wasn't afraid to say fag and didn't put any women in it
Anonymous No.150822654 [Report]
>>150822624
Do you steal genes?
Anonymous No.150822710 [Report] >>150822769
Are Footbros even real?
Anonymous No.150822758 [Report]
>>150814874 (OP)
How do you guys get horny for these obnoxious ugly faces?
Anonymous No.150822769 [Report]
>>150822710
Yeah, they're the favoured form of Garou blessed by Achilles, a Black Fury totem spirit.
Anonymous No.150822778 [Report]
>>150822402
You have reminded me that Rudi exists and I am going to make you pay for that.
Anonymous No.150822824 [Report]
>>150814874 (OP)
Is the pussy hairy
Anonymous No.150822869 [Report] >>150822920
So from what i understand it’s entirely possible to be some random human smuck and be unaware your dating/ in a relationship with a hunter, wolf, mummy, vamp, etc.
Anonymous No.150822920 [Report] >>150823251
>>150822869
>Hunter
Your partner is probably going to be eccentric and have a lot of unexplained hospital visits and ramble about conspiracy theories.
>Werewolf
Your partner is going to consistently radiate a palpable aura of rage that instinctually makes you anxious around them at all times.
>Mummy
Dusty pussy.
>Vampire
Your partner never goes out during daylight hours and you either wake up anaemic after sex or they frequently go "clubbing with the girls."
Anonymous No.150822970 [Report] >>150823072
>>150822079
>>150822402
Goddamn that sounds so goddamn lame.
Anonymous No.150823049 [Report] >>150823126 >>150823214
Young Fatigue looks like the guy from Atlantis.
Anonymous No.150823072 [Report] >>150823224
>>150822970
>>150822402
>>150822079
>Corporate sterilization and edge-sanding
Which head of the Wyrm causes this form of degradation?
Anonymous No.150823105 [Report] >>150823202 >>150823213 >>150823224 >>150823318 >>150824475
>>150821853
WTF happen on Utah?
Anonymous No.150823126 [Report]
>>150823049
I thought the exact same. Even has more or less the same character arc.
Anonymous No.150823196 [Report]
>>150822079
>>150822402
One more thing is that Paradox is allergic to the idea of nerds on the internet who discuss the lore of games (people like me, in other words).
So with W5, one of their intentional design decisions was to create a loreless game. When it first came out, there were basically no named characters and basically no concrete historical events that occurred. There was no stable timeline and for every event that did occur, like the Impergium, it was always very nebulous.
>No one really knows when the Impergium happened. It could have happened ten thousand years ago, a thousand years ago, or a hundred years ago. Werewolves just don't know, they just know that it happened. It could have even happened at several different points at time in different locations across the world. What are the details?
>The Get of Fenris left the Garou Nation and became the Cult of Fenris within living memory. When did this happen? Couldn't tell you. Why did this happen? Couldn't tell you. It could have happened fifty years ago, it could have happened five years ago. No one knows.
>You're playing a Galliard, someone whose entire purpose in Garou society is to tell stories about the past, and you want to know some stories about the past? Couldn't tell you any. Ancestral heroes? Couldn't tell you about any. Great tragedies? Couldn't tell you any. You'll just have to make it up.
The result is that in W5, the remnants of the Garou Nation are full of amnesiacs who know nothing about their past, not even stuff that happened within living memory.
Anonymous No.150823202 [Report]
>>150823105
Fell into the sea and nothing was lost
Anonymous No.150823213 [Report] >>150823224
>>150823105
Who know but maybe someone who know thwe lore could help
Anonymous No.150823214 [Report] >>150823354 >>150832253 >>150845303
>>150823049
Yeah, except the brown girl he was paired with was less hot and overall kind of a cunt.
Poor kid just found out his father was a corrupted by primordial evil, perpetrated vile acts in his son's name, and then watched his father die.
And you go and fucking pelt salt in the wound, demand he thank you for it, and insist that he repay you for crimes that he had no hand in or knowledge of.
Wayda behaved extremely exploitatively in that moment.
Anonymous No.150823224 [Report]
>>150823072
Eater-of-Souls for corporate greed and consumerism, or the Defiler Wyrm for intentional ruination of something beloved.
>>150823105
>>150823213
World of Darkness Mormons DO NOT FUCK AROUND.
Anonymous No.150823250 [Report]
>>150816846
>she's probably most popular woman of the fandom
too bad she hates human men
Anonymous No.150823251 [Report] >>150823294
>>150822920
>>Mummy
>Dusty pussy.
No, expect them to be to be perfectly sculpted paragons of human form who keep talking about things that are way older than them(or at least they look so young they shouldn't have a first hand account of the stuff they talk about). On a scale of 1 to 10, they redefine what 10 is, set themselves at a comfortable 8, and knock you down to 3 regardless of what you look like. But that's okay, because they're here to bring you up to 6 or 7.
Anonymous No.150823294 [Report] >>150823350 >>150823410 >>150823786
>>150823251
Mummys are basically just humans that are heavily bound to and infused with the power of the Wyld right?
What happens to them if the Wyld dies?
Anonymous No.150823318 [Report]
>>150823105
One of the first Tremere is in Utah. She is working on something so important, she and the nosferatu her tremere are aligned with, are willing to kill any other vampire that steps foot into the state to keep everything a secret.
Anonymous No.150823350 [Report]
>>150823294
>What happens if the cosmic spirit of creation dies?
The earth's core hardens, the sun sputters out and no new life is born, not even on the microbial level. Within a hundred years, everything is dead throughout the Tellurian.
Anonymous No.150823354 [Report] >>150823668 >>150824039
>>150823214
What the fuck is with people going all "Hurrr, Wayda is exploitative!".

Wernon is the one that fucking breaks down saying he was wrong and fucked everything up. Wernon is the one that asks how could he possibly ever make up for what he's done. Wayda doesn't even say what SHE and her people want to get out of it, she just tells him to help. The only opinion Wayda herself has is "You and your little adventure hurt us a lot, but children are everyone's future so we'll forgive you".
Anonymous No.150823410 [Report]
>>150823294
Mummies are bound to Ma'at which most closely aligns with the Balance Wyrm
Anonymous No.150823511 [Report] >>150823714
>>150816821
>>150816846
>>150817688
>stable after being backhanded by a fucking hulked out warform
you forgot about one thing
plot armor
Anonymous No.150823668 [Report] >>150823709
>>150823354
>You and your little adventure hurt us alot
No.
Wernon hurt nobody.
Up until his father dropped the Skin-dancer thing on him, he was under the impression that he was primarily there to help collect information on the local Garou and possibly rescue kidnapped children. His father also sold the trip to him as a vaguely defined trial of his manliness, but that was secondary to the core objective.
Wernon had no say in anything, and wasn't even aware of any action objectionable enough to oppose until a Garou was being flayed in front of him.
Elder Fatigue and his brothers dictated how the expedition was to be carried out, and masterminded every questionably morale or outright evil action committed by the team.
And, in the end, The Nails of Christ took her righteous due from them.

Lumping Wenon in as an accomplice - an adolescent boy whose greatest misdeed is literally 1st-world-problem-tier microaggressions - is deeply petty at best and a cynical and manipulative ploy to get free stuff out of an impressionable white kid at worst.
Anonymous No.150823693 [Report]
>>150821853
Sabbat are dominating Montreal, so I’m pretty sure it’s the same for the city of Quebec even if it’s written mixed on the map
Anonymous No.150823709 [Report] >>150823860 >>150845355
>>150823668
>Wernon had no say in anything, and wasn't even aware of any action objectionable enough to oppose until a Garou was being flayed in front of him.
You weren't paying attention when Wernong was going all "WHY ARE WE TEARING THE VILLAGE APART, WE EVEN ALREADY GOT WHAT WE WANTED???"
You retards are really too eager to be offended.
Anonymous No.150823714 [Report]
>>150823511
Don't be stupid.
Anonymous No.150823786 [Report]
>>150823294
>What happens to them if the Wyld dies?
The Wyld is literally all of creation. If the Wyld were to ever 'die' (a concept inapplicable to the Triat) then the Tellurian, any possible Tellurian, and any other format of existence ceases to be and can never again take form. Same for the rest of the Triat.
Anonymous No.150823820 [Report]
>>150822079
>>150822136
>>150822402
That makes my wolf howl with rage
Anonymous No.150823860 [Report] >>150824048
>>150823709
What point are you trying to prove?
>Wernon questioned and voiced his disapproval of a morally dubious action
>Therefore he shares responcibility for it because he didn't... what? Take a shaft of bamboo and stab his own father to death with it?
> You ... hurt us alot
A lie.
> Your adventure hurt us alot
While he wasn't opposed to the idea of testing his mettle in an interesting new locale.
He did not plan this adventure.
He was not leading this adventure.
He did not set the goal, or hidden goal, of this adventure.
He was not making the decisions which shaped this adventure.
This was an adventure devised from its very inception by his father.
Refusal wouldn't have been accepted.
Like it or not, Wernon was simply along for the ride.
Laying blame at his feet for this is nothing but outrageous.
Anonymous No.150823904 [Report] >>150826101
>>150821853
>live in Sabatt region
>neighbour with Cams and oldTzimisce
Anonymous No.150823907 [Report]
>>150816821
This, bitch is high on vitae.
Anonymous No.150823936 [Report] >>150823989
>>150814874 (OP)
How does Occam's Solar Sorcery effect ghouls? Is it more effective on them than humans? Can they learn it?
Anonymous No.150823989 [Report] >>150824139 >>150824340
>>150823936
It shouldn't effect them any more than it would a human.
Ghoul's are unaffected by sunlight.
They are primarily their master's eyes, ears, and arms during daylight hours after all.
If they suffered some sort of adverse reaction to sunlight, that would pretty significantly hamper than apply to serve their purpose.
Anonymous No.150823994 [Report] >>150832157
>>150821853
>map just ignores the presence of lupines
Anonymous No.150824025 [Report]
>>150821853
Australia is such a fucking mess wtf.
How did the country get split between different factions - PERFECTLY ALONG STATE LINES?
What the fuck does WoD Canberra look like?
Anonymous No.150824039 [Report] >>150824101
>>150823354
The way I always saw it was that while Wayda isn't justified in blaming Wernon for the things his father did, he willingly accepts a responsibility that wasn't his own just for the sake of making things better.
He probably could have left with the St. Leopold rescue team along with Pascal but he decides to stay with the Nails of Christ for twenty years instead.
Anonymous No.150824048 [Report] >>150824328
>>150823860
First of all, stop typing like a redditor, you look pathetic.
Second,
>>Therefore he shares responcibility for it because he didn't... what? Take a shaft of bamboo and stab his own father to death with it?
Fucking protest his father. He doesn't actually do it until he's standing there in front of the werewolf for the ritual, the only complaint he's implied to make is that they didn't let him look at the dig site (because it then turns out it's for the ritual, not for an actual excavation). Nobody but Wayda even hears him question the village thing, which is why she gives him a chance by telling him his father isn't there for the reasons he says he is in the first place.

You're also completely ignoring the whole point of all this adventure is the family legacy. He's brought there because he's family. They're looking for a werewolf to give it to him. Just as Kronik did it all because he wanted to make his son follow his family, Wernon decides ON HIS OWN that he's been stained by his family's sins, because he takes that kind of shit as seriously as his father, just with morals. Because he's not as callous or destructive as the rest of the expedition, she keeps trying to subtly let him into the secret about his father. And because he doesn't accept the ritual, she and her insurrectionists spare his life. She doesn't "lay blame at his feet", she just hears him breaking down about it and tells him to just make up for it, she doesn't even specify how.

Wernon even explains that he left the Philippines 20 years later after his "tenure". As in, they fucking trained him in what he wanted to do anyway. It wasn't some fucking stint of slavery after getting gaslighted.
Anonymous No.150824101 [Report] >>150824112 >>150828924
>>150824039
That is true, Wernon clearly feels the need to try and cleanse his family's reputation.
However Wayda definitely encouraged and validated that mindset.
Poking at his wounds insisting that he had wronged them, and softly implying that he has a duty to make things right.
Anonymous No.150824112 [Report]
>>150824101
You're just going to ignore my post, aren't you?
Anonymous No.150824139 [Report] >>150824366
>>150823989
Seems like it affects humans a lot though
Anonymous No.150824328 [Report] >>150824512
>>150824048
>Fucking protest his father.
What's he going to protest?
Being excessively thorough in archeological pursuit?
Being impolite?
Elder Fatigue didn't actually do anything awful, Wernon just thought the whole affair was unnecessary.
That isn't much of the reason to come to blows with a man that you otherwise deeply respect and seek approval from.

>He's brought there because he's family. They're looking for a werewolf to give it to him.
How the fuck is any of that Wernon's fault?
That's like getting a watch as birthday present from a friend, learning later that he brutally murdered a family of four to get it, then being shunned by your community - not because you are suspected of the crime, but because the crime was committed for your benefit.
Its absolutely psychotic logic and you should feel fucking ashamed for trying to pass it off as reasonable you shitboot.

>Wernon decides ON HIS OWN that he's been stained by his family's sins
Sure.
He was already leaning in that direction.
Which would be perfectly nice, and a fine demonstration of Wernon's moral fiber.
Except Wayda inelegantly thrusts external pressure onto that, expressly making it clear that she holds him responsible for what happened and that he ought to make amends for the trouble caused.
Need I remind you of the quote YOU brought up?
> "You and your adventure hurt us alot"
Anonymous No.150824340 [Report] >>150824410
>>150823989
Thanks. I was presuming that while they can survive natural sunlight, solar magic would go straight for the tainted blood and hurt them more than a human, but not as much as a vamp.
But still, could a ghoul hypothetically learn it?
Anonymous No.150824366 [Report] >>150824382
>>150824139
Wasn't that Celtic martial arts?
Solar sorcery is a different thing innit?
Anonymous No.150824382 [Report] >>150824439
>>150824366
He says later his solar sorcery is all spent from using it on Blacklaw and D
Anonymous No.150824410 [Report] >>150824601
>>150824340
Uuuuhhh.
Maybe?
I think one of the episodes covered this a bit.
Solar sorcery makes its practitioners innately harder for vampires dominate or bloodbond.
But its important to point out, D very specifically did not say they were immune.
Anonymous No.150824439 [Report]
>>150824382
No?
He said it was spent trying to fend off his attacker.
That's why Grimal being later discovered with burns on her wrist was such a big deal.
Anonymous No.150824475 [Report]
>>150823105
WoD Mormons.
Their Hunters are basically Joshua Graham.
Anonymous No.150824512 [Report] >>150824754
>>150824328
>What's he going to protest?
>Being excessively thorough in archeological pursuit?
>Being impolite?
Yes? Constantly demeaning and yelling at the natives? Bulldozing over their villages to excavate, wanting to even before they all got massacred? Doesn't that already sound like grounds to be like "Father, you're crossing the line, remember we were here to help people"?

>How the fuck is any of that Wernon's fault?
You're clearly refusing to see this from Wernon's own point of view that it all happened because of his family and their legacy. That Kronik literally tells him that they came there for the werewolf, to give to him. Why do you fucking think Wernon literally thanks Wayda for telling him to make up for it? Because that's literally what he needed to hear, that he could make up for it. Wayda doesn't even say he has to make it up to them in particular, even though she protects him during the final fight.

And again, it's not like he fucking gets put in slavery. He spends 20 years with them because he WANTS to, and he calls it a tenure because they trained him. And they trained him at doing what he had wanted to do with his family in the first place.
Anonymous No.150824601 [Report] >>150824670 >>150826145
>>150824410
That's another thing I presumed. I guess there must be some reason why the majority of members aren't taught at least the basics of it to better protect them physically and mentally. Hard to learn?
Anonymous No.150824670 [Report] >>150825123 >>150826145
>>150824601
Super special bloodline techniques?
One exclusive to Celts?
What's the term from naruto?
Carrot-ken-kai?
Anonymous No.150824692 [Report]
>>150821853
>Anarchs
Hmm...
Anonymous No.150824739 [Report] >>150824784
>Head of an Arcanum branch
>devaluing his Special Gimmick by teaching it to every fucking neophyte in his society
>especially when its literally his cultures gimmick sorcerous arts
You guys wouldn't survive for shit in this setting, I fucking swear. The Arcanums power is exactly not sharing shit like this willy nilly like its arcane lore from the 99p store, and getting owed big money and big favours from people for sneak peeks at the archive and their stash of shit.
Anonymous No.150824754 [Report] >>150824838 >>150824893 >>150829686
>>150824512
You're right but you're just going to get
>but how is any of that Wernon's fault?
Quite a few people seem unable to comprehend lineage responsibility.
Brutus killed his good friend Caesar not because he wanted to, but because his ancestry is that of Kingslaying and that was more important than his personal wishes.
Wernon is responsible for his family legacy by being a part of the Fatigue family. He chose to pay off his family's sins instead of pretend he owes the world nothing or continue the path his family was on.
Anonymous No.150824771 [Report]
Pascal was a faggot, fuck that piss drinker.
Anonymous No.150824784 [Report]
>>150824739
speaking of secret sorcerous shit.
Anyone remember what that holy weapon blessing thing was called? I remember lore bits where a blessed guns outright, final death killed vamps
Or was that just True Faith and its effects?
Anonymous No.150824838 [Report]
>>150824754
anon thats literally collective sin.
He, as an individual, did nothing wrong.

IT is noble to dedicate his life to good and taking a different approach.
But from what we see the bitch basically guilt trips and manipulates him into it, thus devaluing his entire arc.
Its one of the main reasons people kinda dont like the episode.
Anonymous No.150824893 [Report] >>150824955
>>150824754
kind of understandable that people don't grasp the concept.
lineages and familial reputation are basically dead concepts in much of the west, outside of wealthy families perhaps.
maybe its different in other parts of the world; but the rise of liberalism, individualism, and social atomization has resulted in generations that generally only see their families on holidays and are otherwise disconnected from the minutia of their lives.
Anonymous No.150824952 [Report]
>>150821853
Sabbat
Anonymous No.150824955 [Report] >>150825052 >>150825107 >>150825117 >>150826941
>>150824893
There is a difference in accepting your lineage faults and all, and literally being guilt tripped into living with tribals only to later steal shit on their behalf. (Granted they likely did do more good with it that the arcanum)
He was manipulated, that is the issue here
Anonymous No.150825052 [Report]
>>150824955
You're a retard.
Anonymous No.150825107 [Report]
>>150824955
i'm not arguing any of that.
just remarking on a real world phonomena i noticed.
dissolution of close familial cooperation.
loss of the social structure and normalcy anchors that ever-present kin provide.
erasure of one's heritage and family history.
its only peripherally relevant, but i had a recent death in the family and its left me contemplative about what was lost and what could have been.
Anonymous No.150825117 [Report] >>150825162
>>150824955
He chose to help them of his own initiative. Nobody forced him to do any of this, he was the one that wanted to repent for his family's crimes.
Anonymous No.150825123 [Report]
>>150824670
Ah. Okay.
Anonymous No.150825162 [Report] >>150825180 >>150825431 >>150825624
>>150825117
He was literally guilt-tripped by Wayda.
> Oh, but he was already guilty and would have done it anyway
That doesn't change the fact that he was guilt-tripped.
The mere existence of it devalues the resolution he comes to.
Anonymous No.150825180 [Report] >>150825344 >>150825359
>>150825162
It's so obvious by now that you've realized you're in the wrong and nobody agrees with you but you're too prideful to actually admit you might be nitpicking too much.
Anonymous No.150825214 [Report]
>>150814882
Get off the Cuck gramps.
Anonymous No.150825277 [Report]
>>150814874 (OP)
She reminds me of those pictures of dogs that failed to catch the frisbee and are getting smacked in the side of the head by it.
Anonymous No.150825344 [Report]
>>150825180
>Ratio + your weird and ugly
Anonymous No.150825359 [Report] >>150825379
>>150825180
Wow.
Good argument.
Very compelling.
I'll spare *your* pride and quietly take that as an admission of defeat.
Anonymous No.150825379 [Report] >>150825410
>>150825359
>Heh, I got btfo left right and center, but now that the other guy is saying so I can just say "no u" and walk away!
Anonymous No.150825410 [Report] >>150825446
>>150825379
I hope you can find contentment in your delusion.
But judging by how you're still snidely bitching, that seems unlikely.
Anonymous No.150825431 [Report]
>>150825162
white boy
Anonymous No.150825446 [Report] >>150825905
>>150825410
Can't help but notice you still haven't addressed the point that they trained Wernon instead of enslaving him and he left once he felt like it. Could it be because you're actually completely out of arguments other than just repeatedly pointing out what others have already rebuked and now you're extremely relieved the argument has just moved to insults?
Anonymous No.150825483 [Report] >>150825597 >>150827580 >>150827926
The power of cute art. Is this Garou propaganda?
Anonymous No.150825549 [Report]
You know, I'm actually really sad we didn't see a full body still of Kronik. I want to see if he was as big and buff as Wernon gets a bunch of years later. I'd love it if looking down, you could see Kronik is actually more on the scrawny side, and has just been banking on the unearned strength of a werewolf his own father hunted for him, whereas Wernon during his peak hunter years is actually very physically fit because he actually worked for it.
Anonymous No.150825584 [Report]
>>150821853
You'd think vampires in Antarctica or the arctic would have it easy
Anonymous No.150825597 [Report] >>150825659 >>150826181
>>150825483
Yes. They want you to have sex with them to make more Werewolves
Anonymous No.150825624 [Report] >>150825811
>>150825162
She told him the truth; that Kronik's murderous rampage across her land happened for the sole and specific purpose of making him into a Stolen Moon, and that he was complicit and willfully blind in it. He came in expecting a pulp adventure, which was childish and a stupid fucking thing to do. And that was true.
Anonymous No.150825659 [Report] >>150825901 >>150826181
>>150825597
She probably has fleas.
Anonymous No.150825719 [Report] >>150827074
>>150821995
Red Talons don't have kinfolk?
Anonymous No.150825811 [Report] >>150825887
>>150825624
How in the actual fuck was he willfully blind?!

He trusted his father and was working with the arcanum so he KNEW supernatural shit is real.
Wolves are mostly fucking monsters (especially to characters in setting)
There was 0 reason for him to doubt until the very end there.
Anonymous No.150825887 [Report] >>150826192
>>150825811
The second Kronik went with "uhhhhhh it was the garou that killed the village elders lol" Wernon lost all plausible deniability there, nevermind the cheerful murdersquad they were palling around.
Anonymous No.150825889 [Report]
Also are we not gonna talk about that Fatigue had 10 willpower when he was young?
Anonymous No.150825901 [Report]
>>150825659
Yeah but she cute
Anonymous No.150825905 [Report] >>150826075 >>150827776
>>150825446
Because it wasn't relevant to the core point of Wernon's lack of direct responsibility over the events of the expedition and the guilt he felt (and the guilt heaped upon him) for it.

But fine, since you absolutely, positively won't be satisfied unless you can get the last word in, I'll humor you further.

Firstly, I never stated or implied that Wernon was enslaved you frothing ninny.
Secondly, we have no idea what the exact work Wernon was doing over with the Nails of Christ, or the nature of his relationship with them.
>B-buh muh tenure
Tenure.
[The status of holding one's position on a permanent basis without periodic contract renewals.]
Does not imply a prestigious position.
Does not imply a enriching position
A janitor can have a tenure.
>Ah! Ah! Ah! Your implying that Wernon worked as a janitor! That's-
Shut up.
My point is that you're romanticizing the matter.
Its reasonably to assume that any training or education Wernon obtained was not given to him, it was likely work experience, incidental to his primary purpose.
Penance. Redemption. Flagellation.
He likely earned a reputation in time, the respect and friendship of his fellows based upon what he had given to the cause if nothing else.
But at the beginning, he was a stranger in a strange land, a land distrustful of foreigners.
He was getting no handouts, no friendly tutorage, or special considerations.

But the crux of the issue.
What has always been the crux of the issue, even despite this obvious attempt to derail the conversation:
Was Wernon's guilt, whether it was misplaced, and why Wayda felt the need to aggravate that guilt - which SHE ABSOLUTELY DID DO.
DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT.
I'LL PULL UP THE GOD DAMNED TRANSCRIPT OF THE VIDEO AND POINT OUT EACH INSTANCE WITH FUNNY RED CIRCLES AND ARROWS AND SHIT, DON'T FUCKING TEST ME.
Anonymous No.150825911 [Report] >>150825934 >>150826168 >>150826210 >>150828098
What aid can the Coalition be reasonably expected to give in this scenario?
Anonymous No.150825934 [Report]
>>150825911
Bigge Gonne (for thye killing of Wolfes)
Anonymous No.150825992 [Report] >>150826102 >>150826595
I feel we're kind of forgetting that these people were literally all 1920s Christians, some unreasonable amount of guilt and sins of your fathers is very much to be expected
Anonymous No.150826075 [Report]
>>150825905
Your entire argument in this post is just assumptions and headcanon, so I choose to ignore it. It's impossible to discuss a point you have chosen to completely make up the story for.

The story clearly does not imply Wayda is manipulating Wernon. Wernon himself chose to stay, and Wernon chose when it was time to go. God himself told Wernon the exact same words once he finally died. Wernon still lived a full and satisfying life and even to the end, when leaving the messages for Occam, he still loved Wayda and said she was the only real mother he's ever had. You're just butthurt about this for reasons I suspect have more to do with the background themes than the actual character dialogue.
Anonymous No.150826101 [Report]
>>150823904
Surprised these small surrounded areas don't get immediately crusaded by neighbors unless they're just that well-liked
Anonymous No.150826102 [Report]
>>150825992
Kronik spends the entire audiolog ranting on and on and on about muh family muh Fatigue legacy, Wernon spends most of the expedition going on about muh Lord Father and muh Lord Uncles, and Wayda straight up ends it by saying "welcome our new son in" and he still doesn't get it.
Anonymous No.150826145 [Report]
>>150824601
>>150824670
Isn't WoD sorcery very hard to learn?
>have to have innate talent
>a willing teacher
>actually takes a long time
It is a Celtic technique but it shouldn't be exclusive, though I imagine the effort and time spent learning how to store and use sunlight might not be very applicable to what I presume to be younger members versus 40-50 year old Occam
Anonymous No.150826168 [Report]
>>150825911
Probably a good stash of silver bullets, if the Arcanum didn't already have enough. Seeing as Fatigue was the only werewolf expert in the group, and he's obviously not hunted in at least a few decades because he's old as shit, I think it's fair to say they're not used to dealing with them.
Anonymous No.150826181 [Report] >>150827868
>>150825597
>>150825659
I wonder if Garou ever get it on in crinos
Anonymous No.150826192 [Report] >>150826254
>>150825887
>Cheerful murder squad
Mercenaries coping with morose humor are hitter now.
Even in context, they are fighting what they understand to be monsters.
In this very specific instance, their celebration could be easily misconstrued by someone unaware of the Fatigue hunters' true nature as people ecstatic that they managed to subdue and capture of a GAROU.

>"uhhhhhh it was the garou that killed the village elders lol"
What about that story is unbelievable?
A Garou just attacked the bombed camp.
Wernon and the Belgian spent an indeterminate amount of time hiding out in the jungle before Kronik found them.
>Why would they do that?
At this point, Wernon understands Garou to be savage killers and kidnappers.
So any number of reason would seem reasonable, as far as the boy knows.
Maybe the activity in the area enraged the garou into a frenzy.
Maybe it tracked the foreigners traipsing around its territory back to the village, and killed the villagers by association.
Maybe it just thought it would be funny.
Anonymous No.150826210 [Report]
>>150825911
guns and manpower I would presume, seeing as how Pentex has a vested interest in deforesting Norfolk anyway. I would assume the blue guys are a teaser for the Coalition goon squad coming to assist and job
Anonymous No.150826254 [Report] >>150826327
>>150826192
While I believe you, Wernon's dad is
>verbally abusive
>often behaves in psychotic ways
There's no way Wernon was not suspecting that something was up with Kronik, and then there was the
>True Faith
I think that would cause some red flags to go off, if it really was true faith Wernon surely would have heard more of it or more descriptions. I think he likely had some inkling that Kronik was not all he seemed but pushed it down because family
Anonymous No.150826275 [Report] >>150826351 >>150826368 >>150831284
Gaia this, Wyrm that, but have you forgotten about ze price stabilité
Anonymous No.150826294 [Report] >>150826364
>>150816821
Oh pish-posh, Big D could probably pull that off with his ass cheeks, much less his finers.
Anonymous No.150826327 [Report]
>>150826254
>There's no way Wernon was not suspecting that something was up with Kronik, and then there was the
Clearly he did pick up on it.
Although, remember Wernon grew up with this guy.
He's probably been this way for as long as he could remember.
So, I'd argue it reasonable that Wernon was not more alarmed by his behavior or catch onto something being sus faster.
Anonymous No.150826339 [Report] >>150826437
I feel so out of place in a thread about a show I have rewatched multiple times
I don't have friends to play this game with for fucks sake
Anonymous No.150826351 [Report] >>150826411 >>150827096
>>150826275
Literal agent of the Weaver.
Anonymous No.150826364 [Report] >>150826672
>>150826294
Grimal isn't D.
She is a lanky british girl that watches too many cartoons.
And to be quite frank, I strongly doubt that D is a regular shmoe joe human too.
Anonymous No.150826368 [Report]
>>150826275
This man can kill a Changeling with a mere turn of his eyes.
Anonymous No.150826411 [Report] >>150826443
>>150826351
Reminder: Everything is fucked up forever because of the Weaver.
Not saying that its reasons weren't extremely sympathetic and understandable, but that doesn't make it any less of a fact.

>The Wevr goes mad with desperation.
Causing...
>The Wyrm goes mad with rage.
Causing...
>Wyld goes mad with despair
Anonymous No.150826437 [Report] >>150826483 >>150826490
>>150826339
Just find strangers online to play with. You're going to wind up in a group of flakes, degenerates, theatre kids, and simulationist autists but as long as you're easy to deal with and not a weirdo sperg, you'll make friends and eventually be able to collect enough people for a stable group. It helps if you're willing to bite the bullet and be the storyteller.
Anonymous No.150826443 [Report] >>150826548
>>150826411
And it all happened because the werewolves were so fucking retarded that they did the Impergium.
Anonymous No.150826483 [Report] >>150826608
>>150826437
I think the issue with the
>no friends to play with crowd
Is that they want to not be ST so they can actually introduce themselves easier and play the game as the characters. I myself would rather play than be ST but unfortunately I don't think my group will ever get a game off the ground reliably (DnD 5e babs)
Anonymous No.150826490 [Report]
>>150826437
>not a weirdo sperg
if only... if only...
Anonymous No.150826548 [Report] >>150826601 >>150828081
>>150826443
Really?
I thought that the Weaver trapped the Wyrm first.
Well shit.
Weaver has been re-promoted to best girl status.
Anonymous No.150826595 [Report]
>>150825992
It's like what anon said up there, family legacy as an idea is lost on most people these days.
Anonymous No.150826601 [Report] >>150826643
>>150826548
Nope. The balance was perfect and harmonious until the Garou, in their infinite retardation, ruined everything for everyone by trying to exterminate humanity for literally no reason. This is what drove the Weaver mad, which is what caused her to imprison the Wyrm, which is what started the Apocalypse ball rolling.

If it wasn't for the retarded werewolves, Earth would literally be a perfectly balanced paradise and the universe would be in harmony.
Anonymous No.150826608 [Report] >>150826622
>>150826483
There's always the old method of rotating GMs, take turns. One could probably start a group off of these threads proposing that method, just need to decide: vampire, werewolf, hunter?
Anonymous No.150826622 [Report] >>150830981
>>150826608
>rotating GMs for a relatively niche TTRPG
God I wish. The only one willing to run a WoD rpg is me but I don't dislike DnD. Just that their campaigns tend to be a bit large
Anonymous No.150826643 [Report] >>150826658
>>150826601
Didn't the werewolves kill the wereboars first or what was the timeline with that? I thought it was
>ethnic cleansing cause bored
>Impergium because too many humans
>Weaver goes crazy and buffs humans
>traps wyrm
>Wyrm goes crazy and buffs humans (in a bad way)
>everyone loses
Anonymous No.150826658 [Report] >>150826799
>>150826643
The War of Rage happens during the Impergium. The werewolves really thought it was a good idea to start a war with the other shapeshifters while they were exterminating mankind. They really are that retarded.
Anonymous No.150826672 [Report]
>>150826364
Bro was in a melee battle with a mid-level war form garou and didn't die. No way he's bog standard human.
Anonymous No.150826799 [Report] >>150827098
>>150826658
Damn, they really thought they were the shit huh. Shame metaplots are basically discontinued except for Bloodlines 2
Anonymous No.150826907 [Report]
>>150821853
I'm genuinely surprised Mississippi isn't a Sabbat territory with how shitty and crime-riddled it is. They could just flay a guy alive at a gas station in Jackson and no-one would notice.
Anonymous No.150826941 [Report]
>>150824955
The tribes could do very little against the europeans and needed all the help they could get. She was harsh but she ultimately succeeded in helping her people. With nothing but a sharp tongue. And clearly they formed a good relationship afterwards with how much good he spoke of them.
Wernon is just one guy in a wider conflict. Getting guilt tripped is just a lesser form of collateral.
Anonymous No.150827074 [Report] >>150827097
>>150825719
No human kinfolk only wolf kinfolk. And Red Talons would do anything to protect their lupine family from threats. This desire to protect is also one of the reasons why any humans who get near Red Talon territory dies.
Anonymous No.150827096 [Report]
>>150826351
i'm the weaver's top guy
Anonymous No.150827097 [Report] >>150827685 >>150827706
>>150827074
>keep wolf kinfolks
I feel like I want to question the specifics here but that's rather weird to think about. Regular kinfolk are already kind of weird but lmao, actual wolves is something out of the Dogknott allegations from The Boys
Anonymous No.150827098 [Report] >>150827532
>>150826799
pretty much while Mama Gaia was probably shaking her head going "Man I should've aborted these fucks"
Anonymous No.150827532 [Report] >>150831745
>>150827098
I wonder if she thinks that regularly
or if she thinks at all considering she's basically dead already
Anonymous No.150827580 [Report] >>150827675
>>150825483
Probably

Man, I miss playing my fairy knight werewolf girl
Anonymous No.150827675 [Report] >>150827968
>>150827580
That sounds kinda cool
Anonymous No.150827685 [Report] >>150827764
>>150827097
Think of it like this Anon. Red Talons and any other lupus garou are essentially wolves that gained intelligence and the ability to transform into a human.
It's a Secret of NIMH situation where highly intelligent animals shack up with regular animals.
Anonymous No.150827706 [Report] >>150827764
>>150827097
Werewolves aren't allowed to breed with other werewolves because it creates fucked freaks and may also create the werewolf anti-christ. So most garou only breed with humans and normal wolves. Being a garou isn't a curse like vampires are so they can only be born and not turned. If you're a kinfolk with some gaia blessing which can happen then if you're picked up by one of the clans your new role in life is literally werewolf breeder.
Anonymous No.150827764 [Report] >>150827839 >>150828142
>>150827706
>>150827685
I appreciate the explanations, but I'm not sure I enjoy the soft-bestiality aspects at work here. Quite funny though
Anonymous No.150827776 [Report]
>>150825905
>I'LL PULL UP THE GOD DAMNED TRANSCRIPT OF THE VIDEO AND POINT OUT EACH INSTANCE WITH FUNNY RED CIRCLES AND ARROWS AND SHIT, DON'T FUCKING TEST ME.
Would you kindly? Or hatefully since you’re motivated by spite?
Anonymous No.150827777 [Report] >>150827856 >>150827857
Um, am I in the right place? this is a thread about Bruva's webseries he created after his knee jerk reaction to GW clamping down on 40k-tubers, right? what the fuck have I walked into?
Anonymous No.150827835 [Report] >>150827873 >>150828032 >>150828173 >>150828901 >>150830588 >>150834012 >>150839292
I'm bored gimme drawing requests for my wolf girl Kayde
Anonymous No.150827839 [Report]
>>150827764
It was early Word of Darkness, it was the 80's with the rise of punk, pop occultism/spirituaism, indie ideas, and weird sex-things being present in obscure media.
There was a weird transexuals, fleshed-shapimg, nazi vamp lady-dude.
That's what made it oddly nice.
Anonymous No.150827856 [Report] >>150828046
>>150827777
he dropped on massive tabletop IP and picked up another massive tabletop IP series
Anonymous No.150827857 [Report] >>150827904 >>150828046
>>150827777
Lore discussions around the parent IP of HtP World of Darkness. Usually devolving into Mage discussion and Garou being retarded
Anonymous No.150827868 [Report]
>>150826181
I'm not even sure they have genitals in crinos, but if they do it'd probably be hate-fucking where you end up getting vertically ripped in half like a cheese stick.
Anonymous No.150827873 [Report]
>>150827835
Here doing that dog thing where they lock themselves down there but she's human. Her back is obviously towards us and it's "oh you saw that didn't you."
Anonymous No.150827904 [Report] >>150827925 >>150827993 >>150828341
>>150827857
Can we dive it into changeling discussions, to freshen up the pit.

Like for instance: how the fuck do realms work? There are some arts that seem like certain realms can't be used with and it confuses me
Anonymous No.150827925 [Report] >>150827950
>>150827904
it's fae bullshit so don't expect it to make too much sense
Anonymous No.150827926 [Report]
>>150825483
I cant remember, is she a lupus that took interest in human shit or just really disconnected from society
Anonymous No.150827950 [Report]
>>150827925
Well fuck you, take this poem that I wrote about you that's my bunk for my cantrip that curses you with bad luck with your bowels so you shit yourself just as you're about to reach the toilet
Anonymous No.150827968 [Report] >>150827993
>>150827675
Didn’t I told you about her in the /wodg/ thread?
Anonymous No.150827993 [Report] >>150828278
>>150827904
I haven't actually read the Changeling books, seems much harder to sell to my friends than Vampire
>>150827968
Don't believe I was around for those anon
Anonymous No.150828032 [Report]
>>150827835
Her getting knotted
Anonymous No.150828042 [Report]
>>150816350
Isn't this just the worldbuilding for that new anime, the kid with the gloves? Gachi something?
Anonymous No.150828046 [Report] >>150828072 >>150831388
>>150827856
>>150827857
wait what? it was based of off World of Darkness AKA VtM and it's ilk? Not some random OCs Nonsense he made up on the fly just to escape GW's wrath? oh, that explains the "scooby doo meets DND" formatting of the original pilot. hard to believe it's already been four years since this shit began
Anonymous No.150828072 [Report]
>>150828046
Yup, it's based on V:tM and more specifically Hunter: the Vigil, with a relatively low power cast of human hunters woefully unprepared to get violated by the supernatural. They even have lore primers for the setting at large on their channel. Highly recommend you check out Norfolk Wizard game, very good as well. It's a liveplay of Mage: the Ascension
Anonymous No.150828081 [Report]
>>150826548
Anon is wrong. The Severing, going by the Ananasi (who are amongst the oldest Fera and claim to predate humanity as a whole) was caused well before any of the Fera existed. Queen Ananasa was created countless billions of years ago and the Weaver was already insane by then and the Wyrm already trapped. The Wyrm then entrapped Queen Ananasa out of spite for the Weaver entrapment it, and the Ananasi tricked the Garou into cracking her prison. This all happened well before the War of Rage.

The Garou merely made things exponentially worse between the Impergium and War of Rage. Back then, there was still a chance of returning the two wayward Triat members to sanity. Now, there's no shot unless you're willing to destroy this current reality to do it.
Anonymous No.150828098 [Report]
>>150825911
Massive amounts of guns and manpower.
Anonymous No.150828142 [Report] >>150828357
>>150827764
That wrongness is part of the narrative. Werewolves in WTA are these beings that are half mortal flesh and half literal spirit. Powered by supernatural rage and gnosis, drafted into a war they'll never truly understand but still they must fight. Their enemies are endless legion and they will rage against the dying light (W5 doesn't exist shut up).
All this means werewolves can never relate to normal people or even their kinfolk families. It's simply impossible for regular people to ever truly empathize or understand werewolves. So the best they can hope for in family is their pack, half found family half military squad, and they could be lost at any moment.
Stuff like that is why werewolves are such angry retards, and why things like their love lifes are such disasters. It's hard to make time for family when you're a supernatural soldier constantly fighting a existential war against the forces of stasis and decay.
Anonymous No.150828153 [Report] >>150828175
>>150821853
>my country is entirely Camarilla
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Anonymous No.150828173 [Report] >>150834012
>>150827835
None degenerate anon here. Draw her eating a burger with a side of fries, she can either be at a cook out, or an extremely trashy fast food place.
Anonymous No.150828175 [Report] >>150829196
>>150828153
Cammie is best to have, if you have to have vampires.
Anonymous No.150828278 [Report] >>150832758
>>150827993
Oh, alright.
So in the last WTA game I played I was a redhead Fianna named Kaycee. She was a garou that awakened at 9 years old, but was “kidnapped” by the fae. She spend six years (more like decades for her) in Arcadia as a knight, and sometimes a wolf mount, to various lords and ladies of the fae. When she came back to the real world she puzzled every garou elders. Her condition was a first. She was an airhead, and always lost in thoughts, like Luna Lovegood. She had a powerful fetish inspired by Excalibur’s scabbard, and an enchanted fae armor (Saber’s in FSN but green) that transforms whenever she shifted forms.
Anonymous No.150828341 [Report]
>>150827904
Which arts are tripping you up? The thing to keep in mind with arts and realms is that fairy magic is makebelieve bullshit, so if you can think of an application then chances are it will work. For instance, Wayfare seems like it would only be useful with Realms that target yourself, but by combining it with Props you can turn thrown objects into deadly projectiles, make an enemy's gun jump out of their hand, or use an ordinary carpet as a flying vehicle. There are a few Arts that straight up don't work with certain realms, like Willow Whisper doesn't have any utility with Actor since humans can already talk, C20 changed how some Arts are altered by Realms but I really don't like its changes, in C20 the Realm used for Willow Whisper determines what you can talk about instead of what you can talk to, Legerdemain requires Fae or Actor if you want to telekinesis an object someone's wearing or holding, it just like removing basic utility from certain Arts and forcing you to pay an exp tax to use the full ability. Oh, also there's Scene and Time but those don't let you target anything by themselves, they're just for adding AoE and timers to your Cantrips.
Anonymous No.150828357 [Report] >>150828564
>>150828142
quite the sell though I imagine the family drama bit is something that doesn't usually come up in tables
>>15082827
that's actually quite cool man, neat character. Interesting crossing splats like that somewhat
Anonymous No.150828497 [Report]
>>150821853
>Brasilia is a Cammie city surrounded by Sabbat and Anarchs
Makes sense
Anonymous No.150828564 [Report]
>>150828357
You'd be surprised. A ton of storylines in WTA revolve around familial bonds and werewolves taking care of their kinfolk. Since attacking or kidnapping a werewolf's family is a good way to get them to act like an angry retard or draw them out. Of course there's also stories where children want to grow up and become werewolves like on of their parents, or situations were a brother was chosen by Gaia to become a werewolf but their sibling wasn't. It's one of the biggest differences between wolves and vamps, the were beasts have many many connections to their pasts and families.
Anonymous No.150828808 [Report] >>150828868 >>150828898 >>150828951 >>150829299
Do Vamps and Wolves ever team up? Form alliances? Friendships? Maybe even a little romance?
Anonymous No.150828868 [Report]
>>150828808
I'm sure there are exceptions to everything.
Anonymous No.150828898 [Report]
>>150828808
Can love bloom on the battlefield?
Anonymous No.150828901 [Report]
>>150827835
Her begging for treats, like a good little puppy.
Anonymous No.150828924 [Report] >>150830081
>>150824101
>Poking at his wounds insisting that he had wronged them, and softly implying that he has a duty to make things right

But enough about women in general, let's get back to Wayda.
Anonymous No.150828949 [Report]
>>150821703
What if we banged while I seductively poured vitae down her throat?

And also made Doctor Walters watch.
Anonymous No.150828951 [Report]
>>150828808
Most garou look down on vamps or see them as a blight upon gaia. Some think they're a really really weak offshoots of Camazotz fera.
Anonymous No.150829134 [Report]
>wake up
>be cain
>have a bad night
>repeat
Anonymous No.150829196 [Report]
>>150828175
At least there a form of civility, if you can call it that.
Anonymous No.150829299 [Report] >>150830042
>>150828808
Some Gangrel have an understanding with the local Garou, but that's rare, and typically happens in the wilds where both are away from established power structures.
Anonymous No.150829426 [Report] >>150829450 >>150829458
Is the technocracy the most powerful single faction in WoD? Weren't they able to kill an antediluvian remotely with space lasers and a magic nuke?
Anonymous No.150829450 [Report] >>150829497
>>150829426
>Weren't they able to kill an antediluvian remotely with space lasers and a magic nuke?
They didn't kill it, they slowed him down with that
Also that would have to into your definition of powerful
Sure they are a group of mages who have their fingers in different pies but they can brought down
Anonymous No.150829458 [Report]
>>150829426
They could have been if their magic space nuke didn't wipe out all their outposts in the Umbra
Anonymous No.150829462 [Report]
So why the fuck didnt D ask kevin where the tremere chantry was?
Anonymous No.150829497 [Report] >>150829534 >>150829536
>>150829450
Aren't end game mages god like in terms of power capable of killing Antideluvians on their own?
Anonymous No.150829534 [Report]
>>150829497
They are but Consensus is still stronger than them, so they hang around their own universe instead
Anonymous No.150829536 [Report]
>>150829497
Possibly if they plan enough but an Antideluvian has experience with dealing with powerful mages
Anonymous No.150829590 [Report]
>>150821853
>Camarilla/Sabbat dispute
Fighting blood suckers coming from both sides of the boarder fucking sucks.
Anonymous No.150829599 [Report]
Technocrancy will save the weaver and causw total werwwolf death.
Anonymous No.150829664 [Report] >>150829750 >>150830757
Okay can't Oracles just no diff antideluvians?
Anonymous No.150829686 [Report] >>150829766
>>150824754
> Quite a few people seem unable to comprehend lineage responsibility.
And that includes you. Taking on lineage responsibility applies if you are actually continuing the lineage. Fatigue REJECTED his family legacy, at his own peril no less. This "lineage responsibility" would make much more sense if Warnon actually ended up with the power.
Anonymous No.150829750 [Report]
>>150829664
World of darkness power scaling is always complicated because the stuff for it is made by different writers and different systems made to have different kinds of powers
Anonymous No.150829766 [Report]
>>150829686
Something something Wernon personally benefitted from his family’s power which is why he owes the Nails all of his money that he will ever earn or something
Anonymous No.150829848 [Report] >>150829898
Anonymous No.150829898 [Report]
>>150829848
tl;dr
Anonymous No.150830042 [Report]
>>150829299
God, WoD amazon rainforest must be hellish.
Anonymous No.150830081 [Report] >>150830280 >>150830305 >>150834270 >>150845330
>>150828924
Wayda is a cunt. She isn't supposed to be, obviously. But holy shit, the specific words she chooses lays personal blame on Wernon for shit he was never in control of, was completely ignorant of, and doesn't acknowledge that he said fuck you to his dad and uncles once the cat got out of the bag (and they were going to kill him for it too).
Wow, he wanted an adventure. He's soooo guilty. His "childish dream" must have caused all of this. It's so tryhard, especially that shit about cleaning the bathroom tiles "until the skin of your fingers come off". From just a slightly different angle, it looks super fucking sketchy manipulation of a vulnerable boy much younger than her.
The writers fucked up a good thing they had due to the fatal hubris some writers have: trying to explain everything. It was fine to imply that this old dude was someone who overcame and made up for his past, and now everyone loves him.
But here it came, the huge reveal is that his flaw was being a culturally insensitive and oblivious british chap played up for laughs. Now the next time I hear about the "bathroom tiles", it's going to evoke cringe instead. It just seems like Alfabusa wanted to have his cake and eat it to by not having Fatigue do anything that could possibly make the audience dislike him, and instead made his grave sin a nothingburger.
Anonymous No.150830280 [Report]
>>150830081
I still maintain that Wernon should have sympathized with the Garou and betrayed the Arcanum to werewolves and most of his knowledge came directly from the Children of Gaia, with all of the biases that entails.
Anonymous No.150830305 [Report] >>150830337
>>150830081
>it looks super fucking sketchy manipulation of a vulnerable boy much younger than her.
That's because it is.

And more bothersome is that she clearly reflects Ogre Poppenang's views on white/colonial guilt.
Anonymous No.150830337 [Report] >>150830387 >>150830389 >>150830403
>>150830305
You know that most of them are gay, right? Like I’m pretty sure except for Alfa himself, White, and Eliphas, everyone on the team is big gay.
Anonymous No.150830387 [Report]
>>150830337
I did not know that but it does not surprise me.
Anonymous No.150830389 [Report]
>>150830337
Surprising, giving how awesome thier females characters seem to be.
Anonymous No.150830403 [Report] >>150830423 >>150830605
>>150830337
>Alfa himself
No, but I'm sure Karl is.
Anonymous No.150830423 [Report]
>>150830403
Karl is MEGA gay, Alfa has procreated
Anonymous No.150830462 [Report] >>150830486 >>150830509 >>150830543
>wake up
>STILL haven’t been instantly decapitated while ejaculating deep inside of Matilda to produce more woofs
IT’S NOT FUCKING FAIR BROS
Anonymous No.150830486 [Report] >>150830598
>>150830462
Life isn't fair, Anon.

I gotta find that NSFW greentext that featured Matilda, that filth had me rock hard the whole time.
Anonymous No.150830509 [Report]
>>150830462
>i_finally_get_it.webp
Anonymous No.150830543 [Report] >>150830574
>>150830462
Anonymous No.150830574 [Report]
>>150830543
Just imagine nutting inside of her and then she eats your corpse so you’re twice inside of her haha
Anonymous No.150830588 [Report]
>>150827835
Obligatory warform request bc why would I not ask for that
Beyond that:
>Kayde riding the bus looking sketchy as shit bc she's not paid bus fare even once in her life
>maybe exercising to fuck around with fun and difficult poses
>>150821995
>it is not an inconcievable pairing, to have a hunter (or maybe even a particularly unfortunate but less Wyrm-ridden than most vamp) be the dedicated tard wrangler to a werewolf who understands that their SUPREME RAGE kind of gets in the way of things and that they certainly need outside help to direct themselves to something useful
>a real deaf-leading-the-blind situation where the werewolf is most attuned to the Triat but can't govern themselves, and their wrangler doesn't get any of it but at least has basic common sense
>and it has petplay undertones because wolf
at last i truly see
Anonymous No.150830598 [Report] >>150831092
>>150830486
Unless somebody else wrote one I'm the anon who wrote the only one, featuring Matilda bullying a transfer student who's blatantly into her. I edited it up a bunch and it's now on ao3
https://archiveofourown dot org/works/64589266
Anonymous No.150830605 [Report]
>>150830403
I'm reasonably sure Karl has talked about having gay sex on the Fresh Karl Cast.
Anonymous No.150830757 [Report]
>>150829664
Oracles and things like them would implode from Paradox trying to set even a toe into Consesnsual reality. Antes don't. That, and we have a ToJ scenario where Caine wipes out an entire coterie of archmages casually - sure, he won't give a shit if his kids start shit their powerlevels can't cash (as unlikely as that is for most things) but anyone dumb enough to fight all the Antes at once will probably start shit eith Caine eventually anyway.
Anonymous No.150830813 [Report] >>150830876
>>150817507
>>150817740
>>150820129
Fools.
Anonymous No.150830876 [Report] >>150830899
>>150830813
Nigger who the fuck do you think voices Marie Kanker you stupid son of a bitch
Anonymous No.150830879 [Report] >>150830893 >>150831478 >>150833194
What's your favourite ost in the series?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1VypUBTi3o
Anonymous No.150830893 [Report]
>>150830879
The music is far in the background and incredibly generic I don’t even notice it. Stringstorm’s work blows everything else they’ve used out of the water, especially Chairbound Prankster.
Anonymous No.150830899 [Report] >>150830908
>>150830876
SAY HER NAME COWARD
SAY
HER
NAME
NAME THE HORSE! TEMPT THE BAN! SAY! HER! NAME!
Anonymous No.150830900 [Report]
>>150821853
Specifically Ravnos
But if I have my lore right, the Technocracy killed the Antedeluvian and I probably have to deal with whatever power vaccum is left and the powers vying for it. Feel free to correct me.
Anonymous No.150830908 [Report]
>>150830899
Trixie Tang from the forgotten Christian cartoon Fairly Oddparents
Anonymous No.150830981 [Report]
>>150826622
You gotta go for mentally ill people or try your luck with roll20 strangers.
Anonymous No.150831092 [Report] >>150835768
>>150830598
God fucking bless you!
Thank you kindly for the link, I'm glad to see it all together in a good spot.

You've got a good skill for details, I hope we see more of your stuff again.
Anonymous No.150831284 [Report]
>>150826275
>arete 10 technocrat
Anonymous No.150831388 [Report]
>>150828046
>cross is upside down
Anonymous No.150831478 [Report] >>150832431
>>150830879
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt_0Zej_OHE
Anonymous No.150831745 [Report]
>>150827532
Ignoring V5. It pretty much seemed like OWOD Hunters were setting up Gaia to pretty much exterminate the others via superpowers.
Anonymous No.150832157 [Report] >>150832371 >>150832441 >>150832859 >>150832922 >>150834130 >>150835297 >>150835513 >>150835666
>>150823994
Fine, here you go.
Anonymous No.150832253 [Report] >>150832379
>>150823214
For a setting that goes all in on the 'everything sucks and there are no heroes' storytelling, seemed very out of place to have the writer's pet character excoriate Wernon over something as trivial as a false flag attack that didn't even produce any casualties and would've neutralized the local werewolf threat if she hadn't interfered.
Anonymous No.150832371 [Report]
>>150832157
You forgot to fill in the sea for the Rokea
Anonymous No.150832379 [Report]
>>150832253
>the local werewolf threat
It wasn't actually a threat to anyone but the colonisers. There's a reason why the local hunter org left it alive.
Anonymous No.150832397 [Report]
>>150817433
I see you fellow Trixie enjoyer
Anonymous No.150832431 [Report]
>>150831478
Shame it's short, one of the bes tracks other tha Pyotr's western
Anonymous No.150832441 [Report] >>150832467
>>150832157
>Norfolk get territory
What does this mean for our heroes?
Anonymous No.150832467 [Report] >>150832483
>>150832441
It's probably not the case for their interpretation of the setting, but East Anglia was conquered by vikings in the 9th century, which is why England's split between Fianna and Get with a smattering of other tribes (London is Glass Walker turf, Silver Fangs lord over Stonehenge, Brighton is Children of Gaia territory).
Anonymous No.150832483 [Report]
>>150832467
Well, that is interesting though I was hoping more for an experience in racism. Guess it'll probably not be elaborated on just like the Cammy stuff as it doesn't matter to the plot
Anonymous No.150832758 [Report]
>>150828278
this sounds like something out of a Blackmore's Night song
mega-comfy
Anonymous No.150832859 [Report]
>>150832157
>my state has the best furries
based, fuck you Louisiana and your shitty-ass crocodiles
Anonymous No.150832922 [Report] >>150833252
>>150832157
>My state has various tribe alliances
>Also from previous threads I know the state is split between Sabbat and Camarilla control
I’m in danger
Anonymous No.150832994 [Report]
>>150821853
Moloch
Anonymous No.150833194 [Report] >>150833473
>>150830879
Does the NWG intro count? That shit is a certified earworm.
Anonymous No.150833252 [Report]
>>150832922
Anonymous No.150833473 [Report]
>>150833194
>NWG
That shit saddens me because frankly most of the episodes aren't even like 2 hours long or anything and yet they should be slop tier easy to produce but apparently they're at all the whims of "scheduling" all the time despite the fucking fact everyone's basically in the same fucking time zone and the story's likely already set in stone for what they really wanna do (conspiracy theory alien stabilization aztec game fulfilling in the jungle, they're not very subtle).

My group worked with 3 different countries and sometimes 6 hours or more of difference but these fucks aparently can't do a few sessions every month. Doubly so when they also wanna do a fallout thing, like fuck off, the hell do you mean you take 7 months to produce an audiolog here and then the last NWG was MORE than 2 months ago because that's the video, the audio for it existed back at JULY on the Patreon. Still nothing.

Like fuck dude, I get it, you got the down the rabbithole guy but his anorexic ass isn't getting dropped in fucking Afghanistan like Freddy Fazbear on deployment and he isn't with Threat Null FEMA fixing hurricane damage. He's a neet ass motherfucker, just do the fucking audiologs.
Anonymous No.150833565 [Report] >>150833703 >>150833719 >>150833727 >>150833796
How exactly does True Faith work?

Does it only work if you are religious?
Anonymous No.150833703 [Report]
>>150833565
Yes and no, True Faith is typically expressed through religion and while there are examples of irreligious True Faith, that thing you have faith in essentially needs to be your religion (i.e, a businessman who worships money using his credit card as a symbol of his faith) you can't just believe "the greater good" or "the power of friendship," you need a concrete belief system to put your faith in.
Anonymous No.150833719 [Report]
>>150833565
Unshakeable and absolute devotion in a belief, whatever that belief might be. Usually only religion provides the conviction necessary, but it can be devotion to any sort of faith, and absolute certainty that the subject of their belief will protect them. Living a fundamentalist lifestyle isn't enough, true faith require absolute obsession with one's faith to the point where it comes before everything else in one's life, even your own life and the lives of the people you love. It's a one-in-a-million sort of dedication that you won't find even amongst the most diehard Jihadi wannabe-martyrs, because even they typically have material concerns driving them. For those with True Faith, they must be driven by nothing but faith.
Anonymous No.150833727 [Report]
>>150833565
The uncomplicated way to explain it is just
>Capital G God is very forgiving and gets you probably can't understand him perfectly or are a dipshit
>So, if you truly, absolutely believe in something with sincerity and without doubt, you get True Faith as if you got True Faith for being a good boy who gets it
>The mexican U-Haul worker who's religious experience is just him absolutely believing shit like "God is Good" can get True Faith, same as a Catholic Priest with a deeper understanding of theology, as both end up sincerely believing without doubt
>This also works for very stupid shit, like an unshakeable unwavering faith in the power of Capital so you could smite a fucking Vampire with a Dubai platinum black credit card, or a Satanist who hasn't grown up since 8th grade using his Morningstars power to banish competing evil
Anonymous No.150833796 [Report]
>>150833565
There are a few different ways to explain it depending on the game in question. But no, you don't need to be religious. All you need to do is have an overriding conviction. Something you believe in where it's powerful enough to stand against the consensus of reality. And it isn't like religious belief. It's true belief. It's arguably a tamer version of being a Marauder.
Anonymous No.150834012 [Report]
>>150827835
Oh so this is girl...
>>150828173 follow this anon and her lips are full of cheese.
Anonymous No.150834130 [Report] >>150834157
>>150832157
>that one green dot in the middle of china
>green is fianna
>and they're in beijing
What the fuck are Irishmen doing in control of the capital city of China?
Anonymous No.150834154 [Report] >>150834198 >>150834339 >>150834369 >>150834390 >>150834469
Why don't Vampires and other supernaturals suffer from paradox?

It's not fucking fair
Anonymous No.150834157 [Report]
>>150834130
this is what big shamrock doesn't want you to know about
Anonymous No.150834193 [Report] >>150834294 >>150835239
>>150814874 (OP)
>Hunter: The Parenting
You mean The Reckoning right?
Anonymous No.150834198 [Report]
>>150834154
They can't invert someones balls using a lock of hair from 3 miles away, you gotta take what you can get. They also don't get to have personal pocket universes to live in for the strongest of them where they don't have to care about their species weakness.
Anonymous No.150834270 [Report]
>>150830081
There's the real argument. The real issue (in this instance I do think the episode's story has some real flaws, still I admire the attempt) is the story is constructed in order to express her white guilt narrative. It's like trying to argue with starship troopers on it's own terms. Sorry bro but in starship troopers the foreign enemy really are inhuman roaches. Which justifies bombing the crap out of them. If you take the story on it's own terms you will come to the author's conclusion.
So really any argument about Wayda being a cunt is ultimately about arguing with ogre's post colonial narrative which just so happens to involve white people giving filipino people things for free, as a guilt based virtue. And in secret no less.
This funny to me in how it could be contrasted to low status white men taking south east asian wives.
Anonymous No.150834294 [Report]
>>150834193
Hunter: The Parenting is a youtube animated series set in the world of darkness universe
Anonymous No.150834339 [Report]
>>150834154
Because they are in a sense part of the world's established rules. Mages basically use cheat codes to potentially achieve far goofier shit than most everyone else on average. However, if they get caught doing it, then they get the proverbial banhammer to the dick by paradox
Anonymous No.150834369 [Report] >>150834401 >>150834656
>>150834154
Different powersources. Mages wouldn't have to deal with paradox if they didn't abuse the shit out of their powers before they got heavily restricted by consensus reality to the point the Technocracy was formed to stop them from being evil shitbag warlock kings tossing babies into furnaces to make arcane boner pills
Anonymous No.150834390 [Report] >>150834656
>>150834154
Vampires are (at least according to mage) a very complex, transmissible paradox flaw. Other supernaturals are tied to different realms (umbra, underworld, dreaming) and play by their rules.
Anonymous No.150834401 [Report] >>150834656
>>150834369
Yeah, the technocracy sucks but they have a point about mages and shit fucking with everything.

It's like the world government vs independent warlords, you can't really win but you can loose a little less.
Anonymous No.150834469 [Report]
>>150834154
Vampires are a bug in the world's code introduced by the coder Himself.
Anonymous No.150834507 [Report] >>150834530 >>150834551 >>150834644 >>150834729 >>150834796
>Werewolves have a noble goal and Big D doesn't hunt them because of that
So are Remold's werebear safaris a bad thing?
Anonymous No.150834530 [Report]
>>150834507
Yes.
Anonymous No.150834551 [Report] >>150834712
>>150834507
Werebears are primarily concerned with healing tainted land and nearly extinct because of Garou retardation. So yes, it's pretty fucking bad to go after them.
Anonymous No.150834644 [Report]
>>150834507
Extremely so, arguably they're one of the nicest Fera group. On the other hand though
>noble goal
>bad execution
They kind of do it to themselves. Just like mages who have 0 regard for life because
>hur dur he just reincarnates anyway
And then get hunted down
Anonymous No.150834656 [Report] >>150834697 >>150834714
>>150834369
>>150834390
>>150834401
Would a mage gain paradox if no one that believes magic isn't real is around to see it?
Anonymous No.150834697 [Report] >>150834738
>>150834656
That would be a good strategy, there would still be some paradox based on the scale of the magic used but FAR less then when being observed.
Anonymous No.150834712 [Report]
>>150834551
Yeah, they're like one of the few beneficial shapeshifters left.

I don't think they fuck with people unless there's an environmental issues but they seem more level headed than most.
Anonymous No.150834714 [Report] >>150834738
>>150834656
Yes, paradox is more than just the force of disbelief, it's reality kicking back when a mage tries to toy with it.
Anonymous No.150834729 [Report] >>150834778 >>150835892
>>150834507
It might surprise you to learn D isn't the ultimate arbiter of what's good and bad
Anonymous No.150834738 [Report] >>150834777
>>150834697
>>150834714
So a mage would still get fucked but not nearly as much as doing magic in broad daylight then? I guess that's pretty interesting. Though I guess if you do something very visible like summoning an extra moon then it'd be pretty observable anywhere on the globe
Anonymous No.150834777 [Report]
>>150834738
Turning a basketball into a sphere of concrete is far less incriminating than turning yourself into a mountain sized dragon with scales made of molten stars, out in the open or not.

That's all I can say.
Anonymous No.150834778 [Report]
>>150834729
Pentex employees shouldn't be posting on a mongolian basket weaving forum during work hours.
Anonymous No.150834796 [Report]
>>150834507
Very much so. Werebears are one of the more chill ones with a very important task of acting as healers for the world.
Anonymous No.150834950 [Report]
bumping
Anonymous No.150835239 [Report]
>>150834193
Ixnay.
Anonymous No.150835263 [Report] >>150835282
Anyone knowledgeable patreon anon know when the next audiolog will come out?
Anonymous No.150835282 [Report] >>150835308 >>150835320 >>150836471
>>150835263
April 17th
Anonymous No.150835297 [Report] >>150835347
>>150832157
>my country is entirely Uktena
On the one hand, they're one of the better tribes. On the other, that means my country is full of fucking Banes.
Anonymous No.150835308 [Report] >>150835370
>>150835282
>almost half a year until the next log
I know these audiologs take effort but holy shit
Anonymous No.150835320 [Report]
>>150835282
ain't no way, but I can almost believe it with how shit their production pipeline is
Anonymous No.150835347 [Report]
>>150835297
>On the other, that means my country is full of fucking Banes.
It's the Uktena, most of those Banes are going to be trapped in Garou cum jars.
Anonymous No.150835370 [Report] >>150835679
>>150835308
The VA and voicework is really good but they produced the Kevin and Guy audiolog in under a month, I can accept Kronik the explorer taking a few because of the audiomixing and animation work, but they'd have to be insanely lazy to pump out so little content after they go multiple times "Sorry guys it won't happen again we'll commit to more reasonable episode segments and a stable content release cycle"
5 only took so long because they had several delays as well
Anonymous No.150835513 [Report] >>150835542
>>150832157
>notice that only my country has Black Spiral Dancers
>google them
>literally the most wyrmraped garou to exist
I am glad WoD is just fiction.
Anonymous No.150835542 [Report] >>150835569 >>150835673
>>150835513
Do BSD have even have kinfolk?
Anonymous No.150835569 [Report] >>150835955
>>150835542
No, they are all metises.
Anonymous No.150835652 [Report]
Oh shit. I just noticed they seem to be deleting comments on the last episode since alot of people (myself included) were pointing out the clear manipulation of fatigue as well as the general 'white man bad" preachy-ness of the whole thing.
Anonymous No.150835666 [Report]
>>150832157
>Shadow Lords in my area
>vampires purged
Interesting
Anonymous No.150835673 [Report] >>150835955 >>150836251 >>150836395
>>150835542
Yes. The more lucid BSDs take surprisingly good care of them, because they're so few in number. BSDs have no issue with breeding with each other and producing metis offspring, but metis are sterile. So for the sake of not becoming extinct before they can bring around the Apocalypse, they have to look after their (surprisingly rare) fertile Garou and their Kinfolk alike.
Anonymous No.150835679 [Report] >>150835955
>>150835370
Arent they working on multiple logs simultaneously?
Anonymous No.150835768 [Report] >>150845207
>>150831092
Glad you like it man, more will come. Either another Matilda chapter, something with Grimal, or both, depending on how fucked my schedule is. Not sure when, but maybe before the next audiolog if they again take half a year to make one.
Anonymous No.150835892 [Report]
>>150834729
>D isn't the ultimate arbiter of what's good and bad
preposterous
Anonymous No.150835955 [Report] >>150836005 >>150836140
>>150835569
>>150835673
somewhat contradictory
>>150835679
They were but the audio mixing, art direction, and compiling is what takes the most time supposedly. Not the actual voice recording that they're allegedly stockpiled in advance for
Anonymous No.150835967 [Report] >>150836007
Werewolves can be ghouls if they were ghouled before their first transformation?
Anonymous No.150836005 [Report] >>150836039
>>150835955
Use your logic. Metis are sterile. How would a tribe of nothing but metis survive?
Anonymous No.150836007 [Report]
>>150835967
Any werewolf can be a ghoul if a vampire tries hard enough, it's just a terrible fucking idea.
Anonymous No.150836039 [Report]
>>150836005
Wyrm fuckery I assume
Anonymous No.150836140 [Report] >>150836181
>>150835955
>somewhat contradictory
90% of the WtA lore that comes out of these threads is false. People don't even get the origin myth of the setting right, either because they're retarded or because they're trolling. Basically don't trust anything you read here.
Anonymous No.150836181 [Report] >>150836368
>>150836140
It's also the case that GMs can and will mix things up, especially for Hunter games, to keep players on their toes. Even if a player does their best to not metagame, it's hard to be an ill-informed hunter when you've been reading the lore for 15 years.
Anonymous No.150836251 [Report]
>>150835673
I wonder if BSD kinfolk are crazy as well
Anonymous No.150836368 [Report]
>>150836181
Shouldn't "& Dragons" be crossed out
Anonymous No.150836395 [Report] >>150836933 >>150837037
>>150835673
Here's a downside of metis, their werewolves mothers rarely survive the process.

As metis are born in crinos, they're absolutely massive compared to any newborn humans or wolves. They're almost certainly too large to be born naturally, which requires a very quick cesarian section as soon as the water breaks and the child is ready to be born. If the child is not cut out in time, it will carve its way out of its mother's womb like a chestburster, which is almost always lethal because Garou can't regenerate in their natural forms.
The mother can't assume crinos to give birth safely because the crinos form lacks the genitals to give birth naturally and unless you use silver which will almost certainly kill the werewolf, performing a cesarian section won't work because the womb will regenerate faster than non-silver surgical tools can cut through it.
Anonymous No.150836471 [Report]
>>150835282
>Same day as my birthday
What a present!
Anonymous No.150836529 [Report] >>150836651 >>150837120 >>150837722 >>150838560
I like Amanda.
Anonymous No.150836651 [Report] >>150836827
>>150836529
Same. I find it kinda funny since her design screams "insufferable girlboss" on paper but in practice she's arguably the most relatable character in the series.
Anonymous No.150836827 [Report] >>150837120
>>150836651
>insufferable girlboss
Really? When I see someone with bags under their eyes covered in ink, I just think "just another wagie."
Anonymous No.150836933 [Report] >>150837037 >>150837120
>>150836395
That's wrong. Werewolf mothers can totally give birth in Crinos safely, they still have the parts in the war form they just aren't prominent. Yes that also means you can kick a werewolf in the balls. No I don't recommend it.

Anyways that's one of the reasons why Garou who mate with Garou are punished so severely. The offending parents especially the mother aren't particularly injured physically by their act of bringing a sterile often malformed being into the world. So punishments must be done by their community instead.
Anonymous No.150837037 [Report]
>>150836933
>>150836395
once again, somewhat contradictory
Anonymous No.150837120 [Report] >>150837319
>>150836529
>>150836827
her design does seem somewhat like it would pander to a certain crowd but her mannerisms, and the fact that she's actually somewhat attractive and not tastelessly decorated in tattoos and piercings, do make her actually an enjoyable character. All the designs these guys cook up are surprisingly rather good for a team of gays and nerds I'm ngl.
>>150836933
must by why some of the wod threads just talk about borderline beastiality with woofs
Anonymous No.150837319 [Report] >>150837474 >>150841283
>>150837120
>must by why some of the wod threads just talk about borderline beastiality with woofs
It's just a problem inherent the concept of WTA werewolves. Their purpose is to be meditators between nature, humanity, and the spirit realms of the Umbra. So werewolves themselves often have extreme issues trying to align all the different parts of themselves. Take the average human who underwent the change and is now a werewolf. Even if he prefers human society and such he now has to deal with the fact his brain has wolf instincts and thoughts right alongside his normal human instincts and thoughts. And the desires of humans and wolves are often contradictory and against one another.
Anonymous No.150837474 [Report] >>150837544
>>150837319
I'm aware the weirdness is of it was an attempt to not be Vampire: Furry edition, but the weirdness does add a bit of charm to the IP
Anonymous No.150837544 [Report] >>150837623
>>150837474
Though they could've made the werewolves a bit less retarded. Making retarded werewolves solely responsible for everything wrong with the world makes it hard to take the world seriously.
Anonymous No.150837623 [Report] >>150837656
>>150837544
well arguably some things they just couldn't do anything about. According to some anons the weaver went insane long before she tried capturing the wyrm
Anonymous No.150837656 [Report] >>150837763
>>150837623
Which is objectively false. The Weaver went crazy because of the Impergium committed by the Garou, then the Wyrm went crazy because the Weaver. The Garou are literally responsible for everything going to shit.
Anonymous No.150837722 [Report] >>150837763
>>150836529
She's a good lady. Dunked on and had horrific bullshit happen before her very eyes, yet is still willing to join the gaggle of weirdos in their stand against darkness and evil
Anonymous No.150837763 [Report]
>>150837656
Spider hands typed this post
>>150837722
She seems like a genuine hunter PC
Anonymous No.150838560 [Report] >>150838676 >>150838959
>>150836529
Wonder if Matilda will be chill with her if they meet again
Anonymous No.150838676 [Report]
>>150838560
depends how much trash she brough, unless Matilda is an actual red talon
Anonymous No.150838959 [Report] >>150839016
>>150838560
If Amanda actually ends up becoming part of the main crew then I predict a 100% chance she'll be the one to land the killing blow on Matilda if they actually come to blows. Likely by catching her unawares while she's fighting someone more competent similar to how Boy nailed Pyotr.
Anonymous No.150839016 [Report]
>>150838959
killing Matilda seems a lot more unlikely than killing Pyotr. For one, better regeneration, and 2, Matilda and co likely are reasonable enough to not immediately engage in ragetard transformations and actually negotiate for what they want. Although she may have killed Fatigue not sure there's entirely so much bad blood that there's no way around but fighting
Anonymous No.150839129 [Report] >>150843106
>>150814874 (OP)
I would violently eat out her pussy before hours
Anonymous No.150839190 [Report]
>>150821853
The IRL town I'm in is under a cartel truce to not start shit, I imagine in WoD is a similar state, but like even more complicated between sabbat, commies, cartels, and hunters, all smuggling shit to a fro across the border
Anonymous No.150839292 [Report]
>>150827835
eating a hotdog in one bite
Anonymous No.150839325 [Report] >>150839338 >>150839658
Why do people keep drawing/requesting the werewolves eating fast food or processed meat
Isn't that shit full of warm juice or demons or something
Anonymous No.150839338 [Report]
>>150839325
*wyrm juice
Outed as a mobilefag once again
Anonymous No.150839455 [Report] >>150839561
Mmm, warm hotdog juice
Anonymous No.150839561 [Report]
>>150839455
do not milk the dogs
Anonymous No.150839614 [Report] >>150839690 >>150839919
>>150814874 (OP)
>online forums
Alright which one of you fuckers is a woof?
Anonymous No.150839658 [Report] >>150840860
>>150839325
It’s like corruption fetish shit. Like the same fuckers that communion attractive blonde step-ford wives to deforest areas and make megastores to buy wonder bread.
Anonymous No.150839690 [Report]
>>150839614
>implying they aren't posted by nossies trying to dox the furries.
Anonymous No.150839919 [Report]
>>150839614
He's probably talking about hunter.net
Anonymous No.150839979 [Report] >>150839985
Does Solar Sorcery work like Hamon?
Anonymous No.150839985 [Report] >>150840085
>>150839979
Seems so
It's something the team made up
Anonymous No.150840085 [Report] >>150842898
>>150839985
It isn't a reference to Solar Exalted?

I'm still expecting big JoJo memes form these nerds either way. They have a history of doing so.
Anonymous No.150840860 [Report]
>>150839658
>corrupting a werewolf
alright sounds kind of hot actually
my favorite style of werewolf is always the reluctant fearful kind, so if you get that self doubt back in the mix then I'm down
Them being born werewolves and in a tribe removes the hottest elements. Guilt, otherness and shame go by the wayside
It's like when they made white bread by taking out all the nutrients and then mixed it back into white bread later. Literally wonder bread werewolves.
Anonymous No.150841180 [Report] >>150841200
Soup
Anonymous No.150841200 [Report] >>150841287 >>150841350 >>150841594
>>150841180
I know we're supposed to think it's a ghost messing with them, but you still gotta wonder how did Amanda not notice she was making soup with the soap, and putting cheese in the bucket.
Anonymous No.150841283 [Report]
>>150837319
It’s more that Garou were made to be warriors but due to thinking they were super special and better slaughtered most if not all of the other kinds of shifters so now they have to pull quintuple duty to take care of shit, it’s like using a hammer for every issue. If you need to say kill a bunch of Wyrm spawn that are fucking up a forest? Sure they’re the way to go. But say you need to clean out a bane nest or cleanse an area well you can’t just go apeshit murder machine, but since your ancestors killed all the wereboars it’s all that’s left.
Anonymous No.150841287 [Report] >>150841343
>>150841200
She was in shock.
Anonymous No.150841343 [Report]
>>150841287
>*slurps*
Anonymous No.150841350 [Report] >>150841371
>>150841200
She wasn't thinking very clearly, remember she was just hit with Delirium after learning vampires are real and seeing Fatigue's corpse. She's probably very tired and exhausted.
Anonymous No.150841371 [Report] >>150843534
>>150841350
Also Remold's weird brain frying machine.
Anonymous No.150841396 [Report] >>150841424
Question, what control can a vampire exert over their ghoul? The ghoul gets a compulsion to love their master, but can that master directly manipulate or puppet them around?
Anonymous No.150841424 [Report]
>>150841396
depends on the clan and power the vamp master
Anonymous No.150841557 [Report] >>150842888
>>150821853
>Guys who control all of East/SE-Asia also own kosovo for no reason
>Almost all of Russia Disputed
>BC independent for some reason
>Random pieces of Iceland and Greenland purged
>Three guys fighting over Kenya while the rest of SSA is just a grren blob
Anonymous No.150841594 [Report] >>150843784
>>150841200
Combo of Delirium, stress, and having her skull fried by Blacklaw not too long ago
Anonymous No.150841729 [Report] >>150841822 >>150841824 >>150841831
What was the shit that Kronik and his brother did called in universe? It reminds me of the Ulfhednar a bit.
Anonymous No.150841822 [Report] >>150841998
>>150841729
Stolen moons or skin dancers.
Anonymous No.150841824 [Report] >>150841907 >>150841998
>>150841729
Skin Dancing/becoming a Stolen Moon
Basically skinning a Woof and doing a special Wyrm Ritual with it to become a fakey fake fake ultra Wyrm corrupted fake Werewolf who cant get gifts unless you start dealing with Wyrm spirits.
Wyrm is VERY bad by the way, cosmic force of destruction and corruption because the goddess he had a crush on got a little too freaky with the cosmic BDSM and forgot the safe word
Anonymous No.150841831 [Report] >>150841998
>>150841729
An individual who became a shapeshifter outside being born of it is called a Stolen Moon. There's no specific name to the Rite that Kronik was doing, but it's not new for Stolen Moons to be produced via some sort of ritual using Garou as fuel.
Anonymous No.150841907 [Report] >>150841981
>>150841824
I think the Skin Dancing ritual is much worse then Kronik's one, since has to be done by Kinfolk AND it needs five fucking Garou kills done in specific lunar phases. Kronik's just needs the one.
Anonymous No.150841981 [Report]
>>150841907
It's probably just a simplified version of it for the sake of story telling.
Anonymous No.150841998 [Report] >>150842850
>>150841822
>>150841824
>>150841831
That’s interesting, I wonder if we’ll see any more? Especially since like I said it reminded me of the IRL Ulfhednar/Beserkers that had a whole thing with wearing animal skins and drinking a brew. It also explains why he was so fucked up looking. I wonder if it has to do with Shuck as well. I mean is it possible for Shuck to have been a Skin Dancer that came from Scandinavia and used magic to stay alive for a long time?
Anonymous No.150842850 [Report] >>150842939 >>150843751
>>150841998
Shuck seems to have a totally normal wolf form, so doubtful
Anonymous No.150842888 [Report] >>150845248
>>150841557
Russia's disputed because of Baba Yaga I think, she's rather powerful in the lore
Anonymous No.150842898 [Report]
>>150840085
I think there is sun related magic in that game but not martial arts
Anonymous No.150842919 [Report]
Millennial women were a mistake
Everything after 1989 was a mistake
We need to go back.
Anonymous No.150842939 [Report] >>150843042 >>150843751
>>150842850
I think that Stolen Moons can go Lupus.
Anonymous No.150842943 [Report]
>>150817822
I would probably have said this just ot anyone of any age on 4chan.
>do something productive or kill yourself
Going to work is killing me.
Anonymous No.150843042 [Report] >>150843115
>>150842939
don't they look pretty fucked up still? Kitten's pictures made it seem like a normal black wolf
Anonymous No.150843106 [Report] >>150843228
>>150839129
>Grimal, why does pussy taste like the color blue
>It's not even blue berries I'm getting, it has the taste of the very concept of BLUE
>OI! You can either complain and try to figure it out or you can get back down there and make me aheago! Got it!
Anonymous No.150843115 [Report]
>>150843042
I think his pic was supposed to be from the legend so naturally no one would really remember how fucked up they look, especially if the Delirium is in play.
Anonymous No.150843228 [Report] >>150843482
>>150843106
Blue Waffles
Anonymous No.150843482 [Report] >>150843710
>>150843228
>You want me to fuck you as Usagi-chan while you're Tuxedo Mask or not?
Anonymous No.150843534 [Report] >>150843778
>>150841371
Right. Christ, it's a small miracle the woman isn't a vegetable.
Anonymous No.150843710 [Report] >>150843786
>>150843482
I’m fucking YOU, and we agreed that you would be Dio and I would be Part 3 Dio. Not put on the wig.
Anonymous No.150843751 [Report] >>150843783
>>150842939
>>150842850
I was betting an old fashion spiral dancer.
Anonymous No.150843778 [Report]
>>150843534
It's a miracle she isn't curled in a ball crying
Anonymous No.150843783 [Report]
>>150843751
>it was just Ross
That'd be funny
Anonymous No.150843784 [Report]
>>150841594
>operating at a 1 dot in mind
Anonymous No.150843786 [Report] >>150843800
>>150843710
>Fuck You!If it has to be Jojo we are either doing DIO an Jotaro, or Jotaro and Kakyoin
>AND GET BACK TO EATING ME OUT!
Anonymous No.150843800 [Report] >>150843931
>>150843786
Fuck Grimaline Smith from Norfolk UK, this is the real world and we do Double Dio!
Anonymous No.150843931 [Report] >>150843982
>>150843800
>Bloody fockin- Ffffffine. We can do double Dio
>Better do the Hotokou no Ken yaoi cosplay next time we shag though
Anonymous No.150843982 [Report] >>150844038
>>150843931
Fine, but you’re Bat. And we do Guts and Griffith after that, and Harry has to dress as Skull Knight beforehand, he’ll do it if you don’t tell him it’s a sex thing.
Anonymous No.150844038 [Report] >>150844066 >>150844091
>>150843982
>Amanda is dressed as potato casca in the corner horrified because she was told they were going to a cosplay con
Anonymous No.150844066 [Report] >>150844076 >>150844091
>>150844038
>GRIFFITH!
>DON’T LOOK AWAY AMANDA!
>*sound of bed breaking*
>*harry sobs*
Anonymous No.150844076 [Report] >>150844091 >>150844141
>>150844066
>Elise is in a directors chair recording the whole thing
>"Alright Markus, now add more blood"
Anonymous No.150844091 [Report] >>150844103
>>150844076
>>150844066
>>150844038
What is Matilda doing in all this assuming she isn't the rug
Anonymous No.150844103 [Report] >>150844142
>>150844091
She’s Wyald, lol.
Anonymous No.150844141 [Report] >>150844160 >>150844175
>>150844076
>and cut
>”that was excellent you two”
>post nut clarity kicks in
>sit on side of bed staring off into space
>gatsu.mp3
Anonymous No.150844142 [Report]
>>150844103
Tilda as Wyald
>This feels bloody fucking racist but I don't know how
Anonymous No.150844160 [Report] >>150844208
>>150844141
There wouldn't be any post-nut clarity, you helped her film some of her super specific fetish romp video with her in it, she's draining you like a raisin and you'll be barely conscious.
Anonymous No.150844175 [Report] >>150844181
>>150844141
>Now that's clean up, we have to clean up for the Fisting of the north star scenes
>Grimal yells out YOU ARE COCKED
Anonymous No.150844181 [Report] >>150844204
>>150844175
>You’re already bred
Anonymous No.150844204 [Report]
>>150844181
>Nani?
>Grimal's stomach expands with 9 months pregnant
Anonymous No.150844208 [Report] >>150844219
>>150844160
It’s part of it, there is no Berserk fetish porn without sad pondering followed by even fiercer bed breaking sex.
Anonymous No.150844219 [Report] >>150844223 >>150844231
>>150844208
It'd look more like this
Anonymous No.150844223 [Report]
>>150844219
Yes
Anonymous No.150844231 [Report]
>>150844219
I was thinking more
Anonymous No.150844317 [Report] >>150844340
This thread has been a great time. See you next time lads
Anonymous No.150844340 [Report] >>150844434
>>150844317
See you in April mate.
Anonymous No.150844434 [Report] >>150844446
>>150844340
>April
This has to be a joke right?
Anonymous No.150844446 [Report] >>150844517 >>150844592
>>150844434
Nope. Next episode/audiolog's scheduled to come out in April
Anonymous No.150844517 [Report]
>>150844446
FUCK
It better be good, and they better have a decent release afterwards for once
Anonymous No.150844556 [Report]
>>150814874 (OP)
For a tail end post I have to say: there's something oddly sexy with the OP image.
One of Grimal's sexxiest art pieces yet
Anonymous No.150844592 [Report]
>>150844446
Where was this stated?
Anonymous No.150845207 [Report]
>>150835768
Sweet, I look forward to it.
Anonymous No.150845248 [Report] >>150845311
>>150842888
Baba Yaga had an army of vampire, dragons, and corrupted dragons so no surprise. By the time she was killed, she depleted Russia's werewolf population, and the remainder are now fighting the remnants of her forces that no longer have her direction
Anonymous No.150845303 [Report]
>>150823214
>Paired with
He said she was like a mother to him. Which makes her actions seem even less noble.
She guilt tripped him for things he had no hand in or knowledge of, even admitting that he was just a child. She went on an emotional offensive against a kid who had just woken up from a life or death struggle with his own father.
Anonymous No.150845311 [Report]
>>150845248
damn, slightly deserved considering the whole multiple millennium of retardation
Anonymous No.150845330 [Report]
>>150830081
Yeah. I really don't think his whole tile cleaning metaphor needed a back story. The fact that it is some sort of working class judgment on him for being ignorant of the evil of his family, instead of a simply expressed wisdom his own life experience gave him robs it of something I think
Anonymous No.150845342 [Report]
>>150814874 (OP)
She's cute but let's be honest, if she was real she would be the Quirk Chungus.
Anonymous No.150845355 [Report]
>>150823709
That was only at the tail end of the journey just before the climax, and he personally took no part in it. Up to that point, it seems like all they did was explore the mountains and take photos.
Anonymous No.150845398 [Report]
The party is over. Time to banana split out of my club!