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Anonymous No.150919125 [Report] >>150919508 >>150920042 >>150920096 >>150920486 >>150921102 >>150924475
After the dust had settled was he really a bad /co/reator ?
Anonymous No.150919144 [Report]
people are probably still complaining about him and you chose to make this thread about him so i dont think any specs of dust has actually settled.
Anonymous No.150919203 [Report] >>150919372 >>150919508 >>150919643
He HAD genuine talent, especially when Bob Camp reined in his worst impulses. But his arrogance would always be his undoing. Look at how shitty every project he's had total creative control over has been.
Anonymous No.150919286 [Report] >>150922915
>Oh, my beloved ice cream bar... how I love to lick your creamy center
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Anonymous No.150919372 [Report]
>>150919203
>especially when Bob Camp reined in his worst impulses.
Bob Camp said the opposite
Anonymous No.150919393 [Report]
Anonymous No.150919508 [Report] >>150919604 >>150919643 >>150919948
>>150919125 (OP)
I feel like a lot of his dickriders need to realize that, yes, John was incredibly influential to the animation industry, but he also did a lot of shit that held it back. Ren & Stimpy looked great and was surreally well-written, essentially kickstarting the animation Renaissance, as a way to rebel against how safe, bland, and stiff cartoons of the 70’s-80’s looked, it may seem like R&S was refreshing to work on for animators at the time, but Johns rampant perfectionism (I’m not against the idea of making a toon looking good but doing shit like forcing animators to revise one scene 50 times over a box color like he did in Stimpys invention is pure overkill) and tardrages behind the scenes took away from the fun of the production, which hampered his whole idea of putting the fun back into cartooning. This shit and his constant habit of missing deadlines kinda drove networks away from greenlighting Spumco-adjacent shows, Spumco-inspired What a Cartoon pilots like Podunk Possum, Worm Paranoia, those Pat Ventura shorts could’ve been greenlit have it not been for him. Not to mention how much he’s damaged the reputation of wacky cartoons (especially that of his own show), I remember when the first images of Fixed were revealed moralfags were quick to say "Oh my god, that look wacky, it remind of John K me so me hate it".

>>150919203
Should also mention his art clearly degraded in quality overtime.
Anonymous No.150919569 [Report]
He’s the opposite of someone like Jhonen Vasquez who realized that TV animation isn’t worth working in.
Anonymous No.150919570 [Report]
I think one's opinion of him hinges entirely on if they liked Ren and Stimpy or not, and I didn't.
Anonymous No.150919604 [Report] >>150919666
>>150919508
Holy fuck it's like the schizophrenic cat guy
Lovecraft’s cat No.150919643 [Report] >>150919694
>>150919203
This is just a masturbatory fantasy based on your desire to control young artists today with tools like social pressure, or in this instance: grooming them to think if they don’t let you tell them what to do “they’ll end up like John K”
I’ve been doing fine though

>>150919508
Speaking of “wacky cartoons” merely diminishes what he actually accomplished. Normies are upset by self-actualized artists who are expressive and unique because they, themselves, tend to do whatever society wants them to do and they get frustrated trying to interact as individuals, etc
Anonymous No.150919666 [Report] >>150919727 >>150919750
>>150919604
It's not him because he's coherent and doesn't dickride John
Anonymous No.150919694 [Report] >>150919764
>>150919643
>I’ve been doing fine though

Completely ignoring everyone and blundering forward because you're a genius and everyone else is an idiot works really well until it doesn't and you get fired from your own show.
Anonymous No.150919727 [Report] >>150919750
>>150919666
NTA but I’m pretty sure that anon was actually comparing John Ks art to that one cat artist who got schizophrenia and had his art become more abstract overtime, not comparing that anon to Guy.
Anonymous No.150919750 [Report]
>>150919666

>>150919727
Yeah that. Louis Wain was who I meant.
Lovecraft’s cat No.150919764 [Report]
>>150919694
Damn John interfered with the flow of young artists deciding to spread their bussy for the audience and drawing whatever porn they like best

Eventually people will figure out that cartoons like SpongeBob or My Life as a Teenage Robot don’t come out of nowhere after a few more years of not getting any
Anonymous No.150919948 [Report] >>150920068
>>150919508
He ight.
Anonymous No.150920022 [Report]
He is the Anakin Skywalker of animation. He studied under the great masters and was supremely skilled, meant to usher in a new era of animation. But he threw it all away due his personal issues, and in so doing stalled the golden age of animator's animation we could have had
Anonymous No.150920042 [Report]
>>150919125 (OP)
A bad creator no, just unable to keep to deadlines. A shit human being absolutely yes.
Anonymous No.150920068 [Report] >>150920076
>>150919948
Anonymous No.150920076 [Report]
>>150920068
Anonymous No.150920096 [Report] >>150923069 >>150925829
>>150919125 (OP)
He is the only person currently in western animation that can do surreal slapstick. His pacing is fucked, his animation timing is fucked, him leaving no room between his breakdowns for inbetweens is fucked, but he really is the master of his niche.
Anonymous No.150920486 [Report] >>150920528
>>150919125 (OP)
Everyone Ive known who has worked for him said he was a piece of shit and insufferable. He could never get anything done on time.
Lovecraft’s cat No.150920528 [Report]
>>150920486
He only likes to work with friends like Eddie and Jim. They were slowing him down - not friendly enough
Anonymous No.150921102 [Report] >>150921135
>>150919125 (OP)
>flash in the pan from 30+ years ago and hasnt been relevant since with his only recent fame was coming out as a sex pest groomer
Lovecraft’s cat No.150921135 [Report]
>>150921102
Either you’re unaware of John’s blog or acknowledging his blog’s great influence would reduce your masturbation pleasure
Anonymous No.150922915 [Report]
>>150919286
this was the first ren and stimpy episode i ever saw and me and my friend absolutely could not stop laughing
Anonymous No.150922970 [Report]
>/co/reator

You aren't funny or witty, OP. Kill yourself.
Anonymous No.150923069 [Report] >>150923446
>>150920096
> He is the only person currently in western animation that can do surreal slapstick
That may have been true at one time, but any magic John had is long gone by now.
Lovecraft’s cat No.150923446 [Report]
>>150923069
This is just cancel culture masturbation about a cancel target withering away after.

However John still does great doodles and commissions.
Anonymous No.150924475 [Report]
>>150919125 (OP)
>good animator
>OK writer
>mediocre boss
>bad employee
>crappy person
Anonymous No.150925597 [Report]
Does anyone have the uncensored version of this
Anonymous No.150925829 [Report]
>>150920096
I’d argue ed edd n eddy did slapstick better than ren and stimpy.