What happened to the cow post? I was off doing it myself, and came back hoping to see more pictures of cows, and now it's gone. :(

This is Rose, one of our Jersey milk cows.

>>2897147 (OP)
>What happened to the cow post?
guessing the resident board hoa enjoyers couldnt handle the thought of freeroaming beasts of burden encroaching on their safespace
anyways the anon in that thread didnt know the critical bit of information that when god made the 1st cow, he fucked up and installed its head on the wrong end. and all other cows have perpetually suffered the same affliction ever since
i think bovine are also akin to boats in that the 2 best days with cows are the day you get them and the day you sell the heard

>>2897147 (OP)
>post livestock
Do big white cocks count?

>>2897147 (OP)
This is Kirby. He is Kirby because he is round. Sort of a mix between Kirby and Jigglypuff because he squeaks when he jumps and lands like Super Smash Bros. One morning I closed the garage door and heard squeaking from under a shelf and it was this dumb shit cat.

>>2897152
>i think bovine are also akin to boats in that the 2 best days with cows are the day you get them and the day you sell the heard
I habe new babies every year and never sell the entire herd. I keep back most of the productive mammas. Only livestock i purchase and bring in is breeding bulls. Well the couple of jersey milk cows my wife had to have were also purchased. All my beef cows were born and raised though...

I do agree that selling them and getting a big fat check is fun though.

>>2897176
Cat people smell like cat toilet

>>2897256
I wanted a new doggo, was like 6mos past pupper goin to the great fire hydrant in the sky, and was thinking about finding one, then all of a sudden this cat ended up in my garage so I was like “I am the catman now!”

>>2897256
>>2897286
>wake up from nap 30min ago
>picrel is the first thing I see
Bum ass fat shit street cat

>>2897289
>before he at ALL of the food

Got rid of them recently, down to just two horses and a donkey sadly

Probably be hauling these guys to the sale this next week... Prices are pretty good right now. Most of them are gonna average 5-600 lbs. Finally got the vet out to bangs vaccinate a couple days ago. Have 41 replacement heifers I got vaccinated. Will let them finish out the winter on some field pasture and then probably cut them down to around 30 or so... Have 5 more bigger calves that will get pulled off cows before I kick them out this spring and around 40 babies on the ground right now.

>>2897435
how's the woodchip piles goin woodanon?

>>2897665
>how's the woodchip piles goin woodanon?
Going good! I scattered all the big pile around from the other thread and there was a period where no new loads came in. Probably have 5-6 loads there again now... Will have to scatter more soon. Had some more wet and sloppy weather here lately and those pens are so much better with the woodchips. 100% would recommend.

Going to haul those calves down to the sale barn today. They will sell tomorrow. 32 calves (mostly steers and like 5 heifers) and one old bull going to the sale. Have a new breeding bull coming in probably next week or the week after whenever they schedule delivery. Have 7 bulls total and just rotate out one or two every year usually. Sometimes you turn them out and never see them again. River bottom pasture is kinda rough and they can just disappear on you from time to time.

Last weeks market report looked good, hopefully my calves do good for me this week. I will still have another 15 head or so to sell late spring as well for a little more operating money through the summer.

Calves did good at the sale. One was sorted off and sold as a single because he was a little half Jersey, half Angus calf. The rest were sold in 4 groups. Heifers, and then three groups of steers at different sizes.

They cut me a check for $59,080 after yardage and commission.

>>2898214
nice haul
hamburgers aint getting cheaper any time soon

>>2897665
I'm thinking about it, but don't want to do it for some time cause there's like one good spot for it and one other spot and that's all

Clearing a few acres of 4-6 inch oaks to turn into pasture by hand. Eventually it'll be 10 to 15 cleared in total. I'm afraid to look at fencing prices. So while putting that off I'm clearing trees by myself and I'm going to attempt to build a fence with them and run one or two lines of electric on whichever side I'm trying to keep animals away from.
Turning this few sandy loam into fertility will take some work.

>>2898214
>>2897891
good to hear your sale went good brother

superior livestock.

>>2898592
>superior livestock.
555-come-on-now.

Looks like I need to scatter some more wood chips. Probably 10+ loads stacked up here.

>>2899347
Turn it into charcoal and feed it to your cows and it will reduce the smell more than wood chips can. 2% by feed weight is plenty.

>>2900481
>Turn it into charcoal and feed it to your cows and it will reduce the smell more than wood chips can. 2% by feed weight is plenty.

I don't care about the smell (actually doesn't stink at all) but rather wanted to get some material in there to make it less sloppy in the pen, and will eventually be spreading it on my fields.

I have heard that cattle will eat charcoal out of burned slash piles though and it helps reduce pests and parasites. I have a few large slash piles I need to burn on my river bottom pasture.

>>2899942
Magnificent milkers!

This was several years back when I cleaned out the pens. Since then I've converted the spreader back to gasoline and got rid of the propane tanks. Also had to re-mount my spreader box as it was done improperly and had a crack in the frame started.

New mounts so it has some flex. Oak board between spreader box and truck frame. Also the fish plate on the frame is where the crack was started. Did the same on both sides.

>>2900481
One of several slash piles I will probably end up burning. Was thinking about trying to compost them to break them down by keeping them wet with a solar pump, but it'd be more of a pain in the ass than it's worth probably. Plus now that I'm getting copious amounts of wood chips delivered, that is a much easier route to get composted material.

>>2899942
10/10 would keep as replacement cow.

>>2900506
>>2900511
That sounds like a good plan

Post more cute cows. I don't want to see your damn wood

>>2900733
Noice! Looks like your market is sitting around the same place ours in this area is right now.

>>2900703
>Post more cute cows. I don't want to see your damn wood

Here's a big fat bull ass for you...

>>2900733
>J
is that a jersey steer?

>286.66
how does that price work out is it cents/lb live or dead?

>>2900758
hundredweight

>>2900765
on the hoof
price hanging is probably about double that

>>2900770
Thank you, that makes little more sense.
So that's just the liveweight price? Are you selling them finished or as stores?

I'm in the uk, we sell our finished stock directly to the abattoir, we get a deadweight price of about £6.20 p/kg at the moment which I think converts to around $3.50/lb dead/hanging.

But if you are getting at liveweight close to what we're getting deadweight I wonder what the difference is?

>>2900953
>I can only speak for my area, but here we usually take the cattle to a regional auction house / sale yard where private individuals and representatives of slaughter houses make offers on the cattle. Some buy to slaughter, some buy to expand their own herd, some people with good land and money will try to pick out load of skinny steer and spend a season fattening them up to flip them. It's a real open market.
Same here. There are a couple sale barns nearby that we could take them to. Anyone can go in there and register and buy cattle if they want to. I've heard the drought in different areas has cattle herd numbers down, and replacement heifer numbers are way down as well because people have been selling them rather than keeping them the past several years... I've been keeping back some heifers every year for 5 years now, ever since my dad passed away and I took over managing the herd. First 3 years about 20-25 head. Last year 30 head, and I have 41 so far this year. Might sort off a few head and send them to the sale, might just keep them and supplement some pasture with feed. I have a surplus of hay, and hay isn't worth shit right now.

>>2900953
What sort of prices were you getting last year?

>>2897175
no, this is bbc country

>>2900990
>What sort of prices were you getting last year?
Not that anon, but if I remember correctly we got about 1500-1600 a head last year on our calves.

I don't know why everyone is losing their shit about the current cattle prices, because they are about where they should be (or even low still) compared to everything else under the sun...

How far do you think the beef price can or will climb?

>>2897330
Looks like two sad horses and a lazy donkey

>>2903347
Look up what the price of beef without subsidies is. I'm sure 100 $/lb isn't out of the question for a good cut.

how do you feed your cow?
been entertaining the idea of creating a fattening farm since calves are cheap in my country
but it's just random village cow and might even be a zebu for all I know

>>2903486
>how do you feed your cow?

I grow quite a bit of hay. Put up around 1500-1800 3x3 bales that weigh in around 900lbs every year...

My cattle are on pasture a large chunk of the year. In the winter time I let my cows in on my fields to graze them off and supplement feed them. I have been selling extra hay, but the hay market is down quite a bit right now. I have been gravitating away from selling hay anyways because I hate dealing with those smug asshole horse people, so I have been keeping back more replacement heifers. If I keep all of my replacements I have held back this year I will be up around 200 head of reproductive female cattle on my farm.

>>2903486

>>2903486

>>2901334
>t. American

Some chucklehead buys out all of the chickens at my local shop every day they get a new shipment, so I'm left to pad out my flock this year with ducks

>>2903486
>how do you feed your cow?
only the finest asparagus, served with a side of blackstrap dusted with my secret sauce

>>2903640
>spray paint the stuff that cows eat
>cow eat the spray paint
>you eat the cow
what did anon mean by this

>>2903694
>>spray paint the stuff that cows eat
>>cow eat the spray paint
>>you eat the cow
>what did anon mean by this

Old picture and sold all of that hay anyways, but that is a giant fucking nothing burger and you damn well know it.

only chickens and currently down to one.

>>2903486
>in my country
Where? This will massively affect what feeds are available and most suitable for raising your stock on. Even within a country depending on local land and climatic conditions there's a lot of variation.

>>2903665
Sounds like you need some roosters

>>2903694
>>2903790
You can buy spray chalk instead of spray paint

>>2903825
What happened?

>>2897435
>>2898214
Good to see, about to haul ours next week. Made about $90k last year, had to temporarily downsize a bit in the process. Currently about 70 head, historically its been closer to 150.

>>2903694
Cows won't eat moldy hay if they can avoid it, so it stands to reason they also won't eat spraypainted hay either given a choice. But if they do it's not our problem.

>>2903635
>>2903640
>needing a baler and squeeze and truck to move hay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsNJq26mJSs

>>2904702
I guess that is one way to do it...

I don't mind doing it my way. Might take a bit more time in the summer, but it is nice to be prepared for the winter time and have all my hay put away nicely in the barns.

>>2903665
>no water
>heating lamp
You know those aren't iguanas, right?

>>2904702
>need 3 huge tractors and the ground to be completely frozen and flat in order to move hay.

Whatever works for you mate.
Where I live you can't even get on the ground for 6 months of the year or you'd dig yourself in

>>2904791
>>no water
Granted, it's empty, but the catch tray underneath isn't.

The lamp is just to keep it comfortable, that porch doesn't have heat and it was 25 freedom degrees most of that week.
Live on a farm. It gets cold.

>>2903867
I was hoping for some meat birds. All of my hens are lean eggers, so any of their offspring will be meager eats.

>>2903870
the others all died

>>2905110
Roosters make more meat birds

>>2905110
Do better.

Meat, Dairy & Fiber.

Livestock to thrive on.

>>2905264
:( I'm doing my best with what I've got at the moment
Ground of their future pond is still frozen, and thankfully I haven't moved them outside because a tree fell where I was going to put their coop. They don't have a momma to keep them waterproof, so they'll have to wait until they grow up to have open swim.

>>2906108
Add 2% crushed lump charcoal to their feed. They won't smell as bad, which will probably be some relief for you until you can get them outside. If they're not on a medicated feed then you should ferment their feed for a few days with the charcoal and some Greek yogurt to help their gut flora. Apple cider vinegar shaken with the mother can help their gut flora too. Usually they get their gut flora from eating their mother's poop so the fermented food will help a lot. If they are still on a medicated feed then you can get some adult feed to ferment and offer it to them once or twice a day.

Anyone here know about egg incubation? I'm looking for an incubator that has a capacity of 30+ chicken eggs or 5+ emu eggs. Also needs auto moisture and rotation since I am lazy. I've heard that the cheaper chinese models have bad heat distribution, is this true?

>>2906230
I'm not too concerned with the smell or their digestion. The feed I started them on and the water additives I use are probiotic, and as long as I don't let their bedding get rancid it barely smells.
My concern with them not having a mother to tend to them is their lacking preen oil to seal their feathers until they're older.

>>2905235
Not worth raising layer mutts for meat. All of these birds are basically feather&bone egg factories. I harvest the Cornish meat birds as soon as they're old enough to finish, they eat me out of house and home until I reciprocate.

I think I'm going to try quail this year since my neighbors apparently sell fertilized eggs. Bobwhites are apparently 'native' to US zone 5, anyone have experience? Do they overwinter well, or do I need to bring them inside?

>>2907628
>All of these birds are basically feather&bone egg factories
They make a decent broth bird but they won't make a table bird

>>2907580
The absolute best and cheapest egg incubator you can get is a broody hen. I've never used an actual incubator.

>>2907700
Unfortunately, that is not an option for my situation. The emu eggs always end up freezing and cracking in the winters where I live.

>>2906108
Sorry to hear about momma duck and the tree. I understand the situation better now.

>>2907778
Even under the emus? They're a bit too big to bring inside, but maybe if you put a heater next to, or under, the broody's nest you could keep the eggs from freezing. It might be cheaper then getting a huge incubator. Can you encourage the emus to go broody in the spring? I've never raised emus.

>>2907939
The emu will eventually get up to go get food (too stupid to lay under the heat lamp, or even in the shelter) or something else and they freeze sometimes. I have no clue how you would influence the brooding season of an emu. Last year, it was december to march, this year it was october to march. And my mother needs a large incubator for chicken eggs anyways, so I may as well make sure it fits the emu eggs as well. I'm not hatching them myself, but holding them to sell to the grower who wants to pick them up in batches.

>>2908080
Batches wil make it pretty hard to rely on the emus. I guess an incubator is the best way to go for you. Sorry I can't be more helpful.

>>2908219
If only the emu laid all her eggs in sets of 8 like she did for the first clutch last year.

>>2899942
Where can I buy one?

>>2903665
We have wild ducks in the park next to where I live.
Should I take one and kill for meat?
How should I process it?

>>2908601
Never eat wild/migratory waterfowl, imo
Chances of them carrying parasites that'd give you a rough week are pretty high. Domestics are less likely to pick anything up since they don't visit the tropics or interact with other flocks.

The meat is fairly dark, and the whole bird is oily. Save the preen oil for conditioning leather. Toss the gizzards and intestines and rinse the cavity, that's where the parasites would be. Season very well, stuff with citrus to mute the fishy overtones, and roast/rotisserie until the rubbery skin is crispy.

Kicked bulls out with the cows yesterday. About to kick the cows out of the fields. Also hauled 10 smaller calves to the sale on Monday and they sold yesterday. They weren't the biggest and best by any means, but still netted me another $15k in the bank. I'll take it.

Bros, the wood chip pile is getting a bit ridiculous... Had to push it up with the loader a couple times now to make room for them to dump more. Need to get my shit spreader over here and load it up and haul it off..

Got about half of my green tag heifers calved out now. Had one heifer lose a calf, seemed like a broken neck from it falling out and landing weird. We also worked calves on the river bottom from the cow herd and had one calf somehow not get claimed, so paired her up with the heifer that lost her calf.

58 and 68 are absolute clowns... they always come over and see what's going on. Very curious. Can't pet them, but if you stand there with your hand out they'll boop you with their noses.

Here's the calf we grafted onto the green tag heifer that lost hers. Her name is Juliette. My wife grew quite fond of her in the week that she was on our dairy cow. It will do the green tag heifer good to have a calf on her. She is quite a calm momma and very sweet.

>>2906230
I love you so much charcobro… I’ve been seeing you sling the same advice on /out/ /diy/ and /an/ and I love your consistency and the fact that you’re a regular actual human… or a very clever bot.
Rudy’s dad here. It’s spring been getting the outdoor area ready. I’ll make a thread when there’s time.

>>2909176
Where'd you get the spare calf from?

>>2898375
hey bloke. one thing i absolutely curse the previous owners for is the complete clearing of acres. remember animals like some shade too., and roots help hold the ground together. oak is a great shade tree when older, future generations will thank you. oak, especially in that diameter range, make fantastic posts, braces and rails. do you have water access? how many head are you looking at running there?

>>2909181
I consider myself to be a bit of both. I can't wait for your next thread. How's your eye?

>>2909258
Kek!
It’s still there! I appreciate the ask and your consistency!
You the same anon whose wife had surgery? She good?
Been busting ass trying to get ready for spring… behind as usual.
Muh baby birbs.

>>2909219
>Where'd you get the spare calf from?
One of our older cows abandoned it and nobody would claim it. We're not 100% sure which cow she even belonged to because we have about 70 of the little shits running around. She would go up to any and every cow she could to try and nurse and kept getting kicked off. So we took her home to the milk cow for a week or so until this one lost her calf.

>>2909270
No, I'm a different anon. My wife is doing well though. We are all eternally behind for spring. They're pretty cute. I'm encouraging one of my hens to go broody so she will adopt some chicks. Hopefully I'll have some chicks in a week or two.

>>2909479
I’ve had one decent broody hen over the last 6 years and she hatched 6 out of 12 for me. We live in a small city (28,000 or so) and I’m desperate to move and get more space and distance between neighbors. I’m scaling back this year im hopes of being able to clean up and get moved. Im planning on halving my flock (the chicks are just the keep us in eggs this winter) and quartering my garden so I can get moved. I’ve been building my soils up for a decade and I have dozens of large containers so I plan to scrape and transport like two trucks of dirt to the new homestead. That’s my biggest regret is I have the best soil there is and I want to take it all with me.
Getting containers and dirt into them so I can just load them and go when the time comes.

>>2909486
Muh dirt thanks to chicken shit, compost, and egg shells.

>>2897147 (OP)
should I buy bull cum for a laugh?
how hard is it to impregnate a cow?

>>2909504
>should I buy bull cum for a laugh?
>how hard is it to impregnate a cow?

First you have to wine and dine her, and get her interested in you. (this will be tough for you)

>>2909504
yes.

>>2909486
I always feel silly trucking dirt from one place to the other, but I get you. It doesn't feel right to leave it behind.

>>2897147 (OP)
>This is Rose, one of our Jersey milk cows
>no horns
That's not a real cow.

>>2909718
>That's not a real cow.
Whatever you say. I'm to the point where none of my calves have horns except for one or two a year from the jersies. Everything else is genetically polled. It's quite nice not having to dehorn.

>>2909718
What do you think makes a real cow?

>>2909783
Show me dem titties

>>2897147 (OP)
>>2900741
>>2904036
>>2909172
>>2909176
Why am I not seeing stripes?!

>>2909879
That's actually pretty useful, how long does the dye last.

>>2909879
flies won't land on the painted part duh

>>2909946
> Striping by the waterborne lacquers (Color Spray BASIC, NIPPONPAINT Co., Ltd, Tokyo, Japan) fades easily (in a few days),
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0223447
>>2909949
Zebras aren't painted and it works for them.

>>2909879
>>2909981

That is pretty wild. No I won't be painting my cows. I do need to get some cattle oilers up and going though.

>>2899942
added a milking station to my brap barn just last winter. Eager to try it out this summer!!

>>2897147 (OP)
>What happened to the cow post?
It has moooved along.

To the guys with actual breeding stock, what do you personally think are the more important traits to look for in your animals, how do you pick your flock/herd sires?

>>2910475

we breed for dairy.

we cull for: any bag issues, weak teats prone to injury, any two instances of mastitis in a single season, prolapse, poor maternal performance (two rejections in two season)

we also cull for aggression in males. I have been obliterated by a 495kg ram before. luckily, our breeds are naturally polled, but still could have / should have caused major damage... I got lucky.

we wether most of our ram lambs to raise for our own meat.

>>2910494
>495kg ram
That is a big ram, what breed gets so big?

>>2910558
might be lbs not kg

>>2910677
Even in lbs it's a big ram, even the big suffolk tups are only like 350-400lb

>>2910475
>To the guys with actual breeding stock, what do you personally think are the more important traits to look for in your animals, how do you pick your flock/herd sires

I'm the anon above with beef cattle.

Body condition. I don't feed a ton and they have to do well on grass pasture and the feed I do give them. And demeanor, if they're a hot-headed bitch they get culled. I don't have time for that bullshit.

>>2910816
So you're looking mostly at maternal traits primarily for ability to thrive and temperament.
I assume you breed for pure angus, how do you pick your bulls?

>>2911158
I mean in somewhat detailed way, are you looking at productivity traits like growth rate and conformation? do you look at things like ebvs of their close relatives?

>>2911158
>So you're looking mostly at maternal traits primarily for ability to thrive and temperament.
>I assume you breed for pure angus, how do you pick your bulls?

Yes for the heifers we hold back we are mostly looking at the things I mentioned above.

For the bulls we look mainly at their appearance and body condition, frame size, etc. Birth weight so we can run them with heifers, growth rate/weaning weight/yearling weight is another high priority, they must be polled and not throw babies with horns, and then of course you still gotta look at the stuff like scrotal size and who their sires are and other stuff like that and make sure there aren't any red flags. I swear some of these places selling bulls have a plethora of info to look through.

If we like the looks of a bull and their attitude, then we will dig into the rest of the specs and see if they will be a good match for the herd. Or sometimes visa-versa, look through the specs first, and then find matches and then look at the bull. If they look good and have a nice frame with a big butt then they'll go on the list as a possible buy. My herd doesn't have any issues with milk production by any means, so that is one stat that we kinda gloss over and don't select for much.

We do run mostly angus bulls, but my wife actually purchased a Saler/angus cross bull (Optimizer) just this week. We'll give him a try and see if we like him. If not, he cost us $3600, and we could almost make our money back across the scales at the local salebarn.

And of course price is another thing. I'm not going to spend $10,000 or more for a bull that I can turn out on the river bottom and never see again, or have an injury that will put him out for the rest of his life. I don't care how good he is. I'd rather have 2-3 bulls that aren't 100% optimal, but will make sure to get the job done and still throw good calves. It's all a balancing act.

>>2911227
Also I let my wife fret over and make the decisions on the bulls (there's probably a cuck joke in there somewhere if you're so inclined) So that is about as much as I know about the subject. She has a good eye for it so I also let her decide which heifers to keep.

We currently have 8 breeding bulls and around 215-220ish female cattle on the place. 40 or so of the newest replacements won't be put with any bulls until around july or so. I like to let them get a bit bigger before breeding so we dont have as many heifer calving issues.

We try to buy a couple bulls every year and then rotate them out after 4-5 years. Sometimes sooner if we just don't like them as much as we hoped to. Once in a while we will turn one out and never see them again, or we will get a shoulder or leg injury. The newest smallest bulls get put with the newest heifers and 1st and 2nd year cows and kept with them until we take them to the river with the older cows. This gives them a couple years to grow and learn the ropes as it is pretty rough terrain down there.

Any of you buggers running sheep?

Hatched 120 chicken so far this season, moving on to turkeys now

>>2913154
How do you source your eggs?

How do you handle disease in your animals?

>>2913154
I'm Jewish and this picture has me in fear

>>2915592
his chickens lay them
lmao

>>2917982
Most chicken owners don't have a rooster

>>2918000
most chicken owners aren't hatching dozens of eggs a month

I have two VERY fat guinea pigs. If shit hits the fan, my family can live a week off of them.

>>2897147 (OP)
how tame are cows, usually? can i take my 8yo daughter to a random field with cows pick one and have her ride her? or is it too dangerous

>>2918694
>how tame are cows, usually? can i take my 8yo daughter to a random field with cows pick one and have her ride her? or is it too dangerous

Most cattle aren't that tame unless they are handled a ton and around people all the time or an actual pet. The one pictured in my OP is quite tame and you can walk up and pet her, scratch her ears, etc. I still wouldn't try to put a kid on her though. Not sure how she would react to that.

My beef cattle aren't really tame at all. Some of the past two batches of replacement heifers have been almost tame and are quite curious, but they will not let you pet them.

>>2918694
one of two things will happen, either you won't be able to get close or you'll die.

>>2918694
Don't go into a random field of cows man. They're not yours and they are worth a bit. What if your dumb ass scares them and they smash over the fence or they run you over. Go ask the owner first

They won't likely let you ride them I've had one I could ride but it was quite a process of hand rearing and patting it every time I came past and leaning on it's back while patting it etc.

Good chance they won't do you any harm just come over curious but won't likely let you touch them. They might charge over for a look which can spook some people that aren't used to them. But there are definitely nasty cattle out there that will run a person over. I've had this skinny ass bush cow run me over maybe a 400kgs animal? It smacked me straight in the jaw with its head and was probably lucky to stay on my feet and only take a graze rather than a broken jaw

>>2909504
It's not the simplest or easiest task around but a good tech can get through a lot of cows quite quickly and get good calf rate.

You first need to identify when they are on heat, you can put scratchy stickers or paint on between the tail and the hips. Cows on heat will tend to stand and be ridden by other cows and indicate this is happening by the rubbing. It's possible to sync the cows heat cycles together using vaginal inserts and injections leading up to this or you can just do a few as they come on.

You need to shove one of your arms right up inside the cows ass so you can use this hand to feel what's going on in there.

You take the semen straw and insert in the vagina and you guide it right in there and insert it just inside the cervix. You can use the hand inside the ass to feel what you are doing and manipulate the cavity. You release the semen in there and you are done.

There might be a course around you can take if you are interested in doing this diy it takes a little practice.

By just inside I mean through the cervix and just out the other side. If you release part way through most of it will dribble back out the wrong way. You want to release it inside the uterus

>>2920683
Any good AI training course will teach you all of this.
I've got an uncle who works for a semen company, he travels from farm to farm checking on and inseminating the cows in heat.
It's a decent job but he doesn't really like all the traveling.

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>>2920683
Please tell me this is an elaborate joke and not an actual practice.

>>2921051
AI technicians are a pretty well paying job.
Getting your cows in calf reliably without the aid of a bull is a valuable job, many farmers diy ai their own stock but having someone who knows what they're doing managing the breeding of your stock can potentially save a lot of time and money.

Just take a look at the size of the market for bull semen, they sell it in these little deep frozen straws stored in liquid nitrogen.
The cost of these straws is pretty variable from like a couple of pounds/dollars for untested beef bulls where you're assuming some of the risk to like a couple hundred or more for rare high value low batch size bulls of high genetic merit.
This is for the uk but you can probably find examples locally of similar costs.
https://www.uksires.co.uk/

This isn't even touching on embryo transfers.

When you start throwing £50 pound notes whenever you fail to get your animal in calf it adds up. Also you can use hormonal sychronisation to bring large batches of heifers into oestrus at the same time it's a lot a bums to stare at. You might rather pay someone with the certified skills.

>>2921067
I've had a bit to do with embryo transfers I used to run a place where we did it. It's way less common when the goal is more cow in calf i.e for dairy farms. You go sticking a 500 dollar embryo into your dairy cow for what? Their herd genetics usually already pretty good. And you actually only get like a 50% in calf rate from it. Semen is the king for those guys who are looking to milk cows and just have calves and produce. What we would do is use other random cows as surrogates. I would graze these cows and when someone bought an embyro they would buy it and buy the cow as well, and take them both home near to calving knowing 100% that it was in calf and whether it was a bull or a heiffer in there. It could be a completely different breed to the cow carrying it.

Embyos are where a lot of the fancy bulls who are producing the semen come from. Some of the calves might be worth several thousand dollars the instant they are born. And the cows that are flushed for eggs to make more embryos.

I would sync the cows up and have guys from the lab come to transfer them. On the surface it looks a lot like AI but it takes a little longer. They actually feel which side the cow has ovulated from and try to place the embryo at the end of that fallopian tube instead of just dribbling semen in there. The guy could do 150 or so in a day. Times that by the rate each? Those guys were vets not just techs for embryo. Big difference for cow management is the timing, you record who is on heat, and then the implanting takes place the following week not right away. I would place CIDR back into the cows before scanning and after they were scanned the ones that were empty were ripe to come around again for another try.

Being a tech is decent money you are right, they get paid for each cow. So they get busy and make bank while the season is on.

I'm actually thinking of doing it I'm interested in this stuff. Some of them travel overseas to follow the work over seasons

>>2921165
>Embyos are where a lot of the fancy bulls who are producing the semen come from.
Is that related to using embryos to multiply the effects of female selection by increasing the number of offspring they have to better characterise their genetic quality or is it just a commercial bull multiplier thing?

>>2921165
>>2921067
should I start AI business?
seems easy enough, community collage can teach me
might do a trial run first to hone my skill

>>2921272
You could look up a breeding company and see if they're hiring for ai techs?
Although it's not super arduous to learn it requires practice to get it right and learning to spot oestrus is another skill entirely

>>2921235
Labs will take biopsy from the embryos and genetically test it. They'll know how good that bulls offspring will be before he is even born. Speeds up the process by 5 years or so each time instead of waiting to look at his progeny. The cow they are taking eggs from obviously matters too. I've seen on a visit a 80 thousand dollar cow living at the facility they flushed eggs from. But in the case of a bull he can donate his semen and more easily have a big impact on herds around the place

>>2921272
They usually do trial runs on cows at the meat works in the yards there before they are slaughtered when they are training. You want to get it right you can really ruin a guys season if you go in there and fail to get them in calf or you can damage the cows. You have your own clients you maintain relationship with you do their cows and keep your own turf. Kiwi techs are pretty high regarded in this the company LIC trains maybe 100 a year and some of them get overseas working. It's reasonably arduous having your arm up a cows bum all day some of the older guys get arthritis etc, I think they have a height requirement and measure your arm to make sure you aren't too big that you are going to cause issues

>>2921278
Oh you mean genome screening.
I'm on the fence about that tech.
Yeah it's a decent filter I guess but it won't get you peak performance, you still need progeny testing, genomic indexes are inherently flawed in that they only work with known knowns.

>>2921272
Can you show us a picture of this teaching collage? Interesting concept. Seems limited in use.

>>2921280
Yeah it was quite new I think when I visited there. They could take a biopsy and do the genome sequencing without killing the embryo and go on to implant it later

Makes sense to me that you will still want to see how it turns out in reality!

>>2921278
Livestock Improvement Corporation?

>>2921280
>>2921278
how about goat/sheep?
since you can't put your arm up their vajayjay
I know they use tubes, but I though you need to "feel it"

>>2921326
Yep, you can ai a lot of species, pigs too.
Can't say I would want to spend much time AIing sheep, not much gain for the outlay

>>2906108
>>2903665

i know it's business, but it's refreshing to see anons in this thread breaking the stereotype when it comes to defenseless animals on 4chan.

>>2897435
mad cow aesthetic

>>2921522
Sir this is /diy/. if you're looking for casual psychopathy another board might deliver it.

>>2918213
It's only 10 dozen

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>>2897147 (OP)
the ladies

My friend is a townie but after watching I think clarkson's farm has decided he wants to keep pigs, anything good bookwise I recommend he read? I only know cattle, but I've got a field I don't, mind renting to him, I figure at least the pigs might finally clear up a few of the problem weeds?

>>2925577
Cho's "Global Natural Farming". He describes how to make a soil mix for the floor that effectively deodorizes their manure. Tell him to add 2% crushed lump charcoal to their feed and that will help too.

Chickens. (Basically every variety)
Ducks.
Call ducks.
Geese
Guinea fowl (sometimes)


I'd have peacocks and emus but my stupid bitch wife won't let me get them cause I free range everything when I get guinea fowl I gotta go get them from like 2 farms down.

She says I don't need a emu just to "have a bird that can fight me" and I don't need peacocks just to "scream".

Cunt.

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>>2908599
>Where can I buy one?
Something, something, the milk is free.

>>2900506
Charcoal also improves the manure as a fertilizer and helps to condition your soil. I think it's always worth the effort, personally.

Are you guys more in for the self sufficiency or are you commercial to some level?

>>2928295
A little of both, but I'd reckon a lot of us were born into it and are just keeping things going. Our land has been in the family since the 1840's.

>>2928920
....That makes it seem like we're all just sunk costing

>>2929120
More like ag exemptioning.

>>2921522
Flock is small this season, but it keeps the family happy and the respect and stewardship it teaches the kiddos is worth it.

Raccoon nabbed 4 of my ducks, after I had gone back to get a few more, so now I only have the one large peckin and a few swedish. Needed a low maintenance alarm system to alert me to coons and bobcats so I also grabbed a few guineas, which then prompted me to get turkeys to be the actual guard dogs.

I'll take the lack of chickens this spring as a blessing, as it gave me an opportunity to try turkey. They are all super tame and haven't been tearing up my yard like chickens in years past. While I do miss getting my daily eggs right outside, having actual grass/clover to hold soil during the heavy summer rains is a plus.

Duckbros, how do I get started with some quackers (thinking of 2 birds) to clean the garden of snails. I got some decent shaded land in the back.

>>2931819
Get a set of ducklings at an ag supply store before they run out for the season or hatch your own, but even egg suppliers won't have good foraging breeds in stock for much longer this year.
Pick a breed that are good foragers and able to fend for themselves, so probably not peckins. I'd recommend Rouens.

Get them a kiddie pool once they get their adult feathers. Before then, only give them short baths in water up to their waist, as they won't yet have the oils to keep them from becoming waterlogged and hypothermic.

Feed them live shrimp, snails, and frozen peas (along with duck starter) while they are small so they get a taste for their ideal prey and don't end up picky/useless

This heifer came out of the woods and stared at me like a deer in the headlights for about 5 minutes then suddenly charged at the mower from behind. The retard ran like a coward when I turned around.

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>>2897290
https://youtu.be/6I_9HK9GXYE?si=9RaTOFrs8Wy9ZCQa