Do you have a doomsday stockpile? What's in it and what do you recommend?
Yes. Hell yes.
I have various foods (freeze dried mres and fresh stock that's rotated) to last me at least a couple months, plus I fish and hunt.
A week's worth of drinking water minimum (plus the ability to collect and purify about 250 gallons of rain water easily unless nukes happen), lots of ammunition for my rifles in 308 and 223 calibers (in a pinch they work in 7.62 and 5.56 nato firearms and the other way around), about 5,000 rounds of .22 for small game, plus a shotgun for close-up work.
Power banks (obviously) and several ways to charge them. I have a bunch of USB powered light bulbs in my stockpile so I can light up every room in the house for days on power banks alone. But obviously keep lights low to attract less attention.
Camping shower (tested with water heated on the oven, worked great), toilet paper, toothbrushes and extra toothpaste for basic sanitation. Alcohol, antibac, first aid supplies, matches, lighters, several years of firewood.... and an ethanol burner if firewood runs out or is unsafe to fetch or burn (smoke smells and is visible), a decent amount of cash money....
Comms: 5 handheld multi-band radio sets for local vhf and uhf communication, always charged. I am licensed for hunting and maritime frequencies. Also partnered up with an old ham licensed buddy a few miles away who has HF capability and can talk and message around the world on ham bands.
Add to that a few cans of fuel (gas/petrol for my cars, diesel for my boat), propane stoves for cooking, multiple solar panels and batteries (with 12V to mains inverter to keep the freezer and refrigerator running), a couple gasoline powered generators as backup.... you're starting to get the idea.
I keep a couple of 50 year old cars around too, they're in decent shape and no electronics so will work even if an emp or a solar storm messes with newer cars.
Larger items: an old fishing boat and a secluded mountain cabin in a very rural area that's full of deer.
No, I'm not American.
Definitely a casual prepper, I have about 300 cans of various beans and soups. Probably about 30k rounds of ammo
i always got a stocked pantry but i also have tons of disgusting shelf stable nutritionally balanced food powder mix stuff that i won't be tempted to eat unless i absolutely need to. week or two of water but i don't really trust that for long term storage.
>>2907779 (OP)>The Sunhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGscoaUWW2M
>>2907779 (OP)>primers>casing>smokeless powder and chemical precursors for processing additional cellulose>decently stocked machine shop with various fuel optionsdo you need anything else?
>>2907953>do you need anything else?Food and water perhaps?
>>2907990is that a hack? that's just putting rice into a container. i did just learn about those mylar bags being iron-sealable thats pretty cool.
>>2907993You can add about 20yrs to its shelf life so yeah.
>>2908002idk if white rice even has a shelf life in proper conditions but its definitely a good thing to stash. got loads of that jasmine shit in my pantry year round, coffee can'd.
>>2907779 (OP)Rice, meat, canned veggies, lots and lots of rice.
>>2907779 (OP)why should I stock pile and prep when you cucks are doing it for me?
>muh gunsdon't protect you while you sleep
>>2907779 (OP)no. I am in the reserve so I would just get drafted and violently die but in the meantime don't have to worry about basic needs
>>2908252When the world falls guys like you will be giving bjs for rice-a-roni
>>2907990We don't need some tattoo'd fuck showing us how to repackage rice. It's not a "hack", dumbass kids. Fucking jesus you people.
>>2907990Every time I see a random piece of information or advice billed as a "hAcK", I feel like punching drywall. That word has been used to hell and back again. It has lost all of its original meaning.
Is putting dry food in mylar bags a good idea? Sure, but it's not deep prepper lore or revolutionary knowledge. Calling it a "hack" while presenting it in a sped up, caption-heavy, vertically-filmed tik-tok style video will only appeal to the lowest rung of society, who I honestly don't know if I want to survive a SHTF scenario.
they've been selling this garbage for at least a decade
>>2908306>tells kids not to watch instructional content>doesn't offer any helpYou're worse
>>2907779 (OP)>Do you have a doomsday stockpile?Yes
>What's in it and what do you recommend?Wine mostly
fucking love this larp shit
>>2907842you're going to die within the first 20 hours of any catastrophe and all that shit will just be someone else's loot.
>>2908612I understand youโre yearning for pandemonium but most neighbors are going to work together in the event of infrastructure breakdown. You will probably be the one to die within a day using the โopen map gameโ strategy and trying to find the person with the most guns to steal.
>>2908349i think she uhh needs two more filter jars in that uhhh lineup
>>2907779 (OP)Im just gonna commit suicide if WW3 starts.
>>2908612based. all prepping LARPers are going to die surrounded by all their crap and a chad raider will stumble upon it a year later and restock.
>>2907779 (OP)I live in a military condo so unless we're nuked I couldn't give less of a shit
Seal wheat and suger in mylar.
Not going to beat the Mormons on price
https://providentliving.churchofjesuschrist.org/food-storage?lang=eng
I bought over 100 humanitarian 24 hour meals.
They are pretty bland and boring but I guess if shit ever hits the fan I'm good for a bit
I also bought and dozen boxes of version 1.5 Onions nearly a decade ago.
That shit has long shelf life and only needs water. Good for basic sustinance.
>>2908614>most neighbors are going to work together in the event of infrastructure breakdown. Yeah, they're going to work together to take your shit.
I bought a prepper house a few years ago
Its still a work in progress but so far i have a reliable source of fresh clean water, several months supply of shelf stable and frozen food, pressure canner and 100s of mason jars and lids, wood burner with plenty of fuel
Im developing some old forgotten pasture land and am hoping to have a chickens by the end of this summer and an apiary next spring
I also am working on auxiliary power but dont have a timeline for that yet
>>2908612Weird logic. You somehow acknowledge that people will live through whatever event you think will happen while also suggesting that it's a dumb idea to stock anything up at all.
>>2908616Just ride it out like everyone else.
>>2908720>humanitarian 24 hour mealsGood shit
>>2908720>>2908827i rather liked the lentil/barley? non-beef stew. why'd they all drop at once like that?
>>2908829What do you mean drop?
>>2908838i mean they flooded the market for a while, was there some big inventory shuffle or something? think there was some active refugee camp in new jersey for a while there, maybe that ended.
>>2908825Where do you store all the food? I feel like the bunker needs to be a little longer to accommodate a table/chairs & some shelving. Other than that, it's pretty cool.
>>2908878well theres a door AND a hatch, i guess thats just one section?
>>2908825Those tamper proof air pipes look pretty easy to tamper with
>>2908878This one is really a fallout shelter. It's to keep you alive through a radiation fallout for a few days until things settle.
>>2907779 (OP)I have rice, beans, lentils and vitamins for 6 months, well for water, solar panels for electricity and firewood for winter. I also live in the safest spot of the safest country, with 100% white neighbors.
Needless to say, I wiped comfortably over the pandemic with the stockpile of toilet paper I'd bought two years beforehand.
>>2908987No one cares about your skin color once they run out of food and you're cooking up smoked beans just a stone's throw away
>>2907779 (OP)Yea i have a bunch of porn on my phone. Whenever they make porn illegal that'll be the end of my world.
>>2909195How many battery packs do you have for your phone?
>>2909377None. I have a portable generator with some backpack straps ill carry with me.
>>2908827>>2907964big fan of how the highest praise anyone ever heaps upon an MRE is "yeah I could eat this whole thing"
>>2909389the freeze dried MCW are actually good
cran-raspberry first strike bars also slap
>>2907779 (OP)>What's in it and what do you recommend?Potable water and tradable women.
I have 2 10gal buckets of rice, 1 of lentils, 1 of kitty food (also for the dogs, but my cat needs the special low grain food and they can all just eat that in an emergency), and a box of 10 humanitarian aid MREs (vegetarian and no heaters). I also have some smaller buckets with sugar, coffee, and sealed salt and pepper. Lastly, I vacuum sealed some "mini filtered cigars" for an emergency. I quit smoking, but if there's an emergency, fuck it, I'll want a smoke.
I don't have it for "doomsday," just an emergency like a tornado where my home is destroyed and I won't have easy access to stores, freedom of movement, and assistance. I saw it happen to one of my cousins in Kentucky, he didn't eat for 2 days, couldn't travel because the roads were covered and his truck was destroyed, and aid was piss poor for the first week. What happened in North Carolina further cemented that I should have all this and I just got it all.
Every Mormon has a years supply of food. Theres more Mormons than jews in the world.
>>2909623Ever seen those massive mormon google docs sheets documenting signs that the boogaloo is coming? I'm pretty sure they're the single most significant of prepper culture in the US.
>>2907990heres a real hack: wear gloves when prepping your long term storage so your dirty hands dont contaminate your stash you filthy animal.
>>2907779 (OP)>ramen noodles for a week>oatmeal for two weeks>salt for a year>two water filters that'll last a lifetime>large garden, animals, creek nearby, and knowledge of how to huntYeah, I think I'm gonna make it.
>>2909657Toss the ramen aside since it has almost no nutritional value.
if they just start bombing your city/town whats the point they'll just move you or you'll just die
if you not you can just live as usual
>>2907842Are you Canadian?
>>2909972>if you not you can just live as usualHow can you live as usual when all the stores close or aren't able to get their regular supplies? Keep in mind that can happen even if your city isn't under direct attack.
>>2909612This is a good one. Thanks anon
>>2909864why are they buying the smallest amounts of anything, not cost effective in the slightest, also significantly more pasta than meat, probably will need 2x those cans to get through half the top drawer.
>>2909612dogs cannot eat cat food, cat food will make dogs violently projectile shit liquid, fyi, might wanna test that theory anon
>>2910414You can eat pasta without meat
>>2908676What will you do for protein?
Aussie here, biggest dangers I face are fires and storms/power outages, so I'm not a hardcore prepper. I do try and keep enough shit in my pantry to last at least a month though.
>at least one 10kg bag of rice in reserve, usually have another one open and in use, stored in sealed buckets to keep the bugs out
>couple kg flour (self raising and regular), sugar, and other baking stuff kept in sealed containers
>3-4 tins each of beans, lentils, mushrooms, corn, fruit, olives, etc
>7-8 tins of tomato
>couple kilos pasta
>10L olive oil
>a dozen large cans of various soups and baked beans
>couple kilos powdered milk
>couple kilos of mixed dried lentils/pearl barley for making soup and stew
>half a dozen cans of spam
>about the same in tuna
>60L of potable water in a few BPA-free containers
>teabags, lots of teabags
>candles, matches, gas bottle and a camping cooktop
>fresh veggies like onion, garlic, potatoes
Most of this stuff I rotate through on a 6-12 month basis, but some of it is really just there for "in case of emergency" that I wouldn't normally eat.
I also have a small hobby garden for various seasonal things and year-round herbs, but that's been relatively unsuccessful at producing much because I'm pretty new to it.
Happy to take any suggestions on what kind of additional things I might want to add, really not sure what I can use to substitute for eggs that can easily be stored unrefrigerated.
I also plan on getting a chest freezer to store bulk meat, so maybe I keep frozen eggs and milk in that too. My house has a solar/battery system so I can run independent of the grid, but if everyone else loses power it's going to impact shops and shit.
>>2910832Oh, forgot to mention:
~2000 rounds of .22 LR
~100 rounds of 12 gauge
~250 rounds of 6.5x55 for my old Swedish Mauser, plus reloading equipment to make another batch or two
>>2907895You vil eat ze powder!
>>2907779 (OP)I have a 357 magnum revolver and I will be taking your stuff.
>>29083231. Putting it in a bucket that is child's play for mice to chew into.
2. Needlessly teabagging it.
Meanwhile I'm putting the rice in the factory bag in a sealed metal container by threes. 60lbs each and you cam cook in the can.
>>2908349She should just eat the pomegranate, for Fisk's sake.
>>2908614Having anything just makes you a bigger target.
I'd just eat my parents annoying dog, then my neighbors annoying dog, then my neighbors, no prepping needed
>>2909612>my cat needs the special low grain foodThat's called meat
>>2909736It's literally wheat. Are you retarded?
>>2909858She looks uh healthy.
>>2910549All the vegetarians wept
>>2910863You mean you'll be eating your gun an hour after the power goes out
>>2910864Mice aren't sniffing anything out through vacuum-sealed mylar bags in a bucket in a modern home. If you're dealing with mice that are that bad you need to sort your shit out
>>2910865>just munch on some hard seeds bro
>>2910866tv has rotted your brain
>>2910868That cat's probably blind by now
>>29108691. Look up the nutritional value of ramen
2. Look up what actual doctors say about relying on it as a steady food source
3. Learn to speak properly because you type like a massive faggot
>>2908780no, they'll steal shit from the annoying retards like you who think society falling apart suddenly means the dissolution of morality
>>2908306its a step above just throwing it into some plain ass container where the food could spoil in a few years vs lasting half a century
you might think "well theres no way i'll need it to last half a century in a survival situation" but preparation is multi-generational
your great-grandkids may very well see a shtf scenario and be greatful that you had something lying around in an attic somewhere after you're gone
>>2910869a grain only diet sucks shit
>>2909858bit of a hot take but i think lentils are shit for rations
they're healthy and make a damn good soup with just a little bit of ground beef, but the problem is that they take so long to boil
and in a situation where you're falling back on your prepper stores, you probably shouldnt waste that much fuel or energy on cooking a very basic soup
better to save it for making broth out of meats and rendering fat
>>2909864most of those pasta boxes are just air
>>2910832you could dry/cure/salt a lot of your meat and that should last atleast a year, and you can still freeze it
>>2910864I keep my bulk staples like beans and grains in sealed buckets with oxygen absorbers and never had problems. After 5 years I'm starting to rotate through it and it's as good as when I packed it. I never bothered with the mylar or other bags because I stockpile what I normally eat so it will be rotated every few years instead of sitting around for decades.
>>2911030Or you could stockpile what you normally eat and rotate through it, then teach your kids and grandkids to do the same.
>>2911033Soak it overnight and it shouldn't take that long to cook.
>>2911036This.
Also keep about 100 lbs of salt to preserve any fresh meat you might get later. A 5 gallon bucket holds about 50 # of salt.
>>2911033You're supposed to precook lentils, then you can store those short term until you're ready to cook and eat them. Precooking takes 20min and proper cooking afterwards is ~15min. You can precook enough for a whole week.
>>2907779 (OP)>eating costco hardtack for 25 years, trapped in your bunkerwould easily rather be dead
>>2911365But in this scenario you didn't. You woke up and realized that you're the last of us
>>2911049This is what I do. Even if it doesn't rot, canned stuff tends to degrade after a few years. I make sure to eat anything that's approaching a year old.
bottles full of cum (for drinking)
empty bottles to cum in (drinking cum makes me want to fap into bottles)
What did you guys eat for those 9 days?
>>2910893I can tell you're an american
>>2912425What is it about the previous comment that has got your panties in a bunch?
>>2912482>american gets called american and instantly assumes poster is madmany such cases
>>2908839FEMA sold off a massive back stock that had reached its TTI / internal use by date. On some of the government surplus sites i saw lots of like 9,000-40,000 HDRs over the course of a year pop up all over the US
>>2907842no gun? thanks for holding my stuff for me
learn fishing. The earth is 90% water.
My doomsday plan is to go to a secluded island on the philipines. If revelations is right tribulations lasts 7 years. I want to believe its right... whatever you do dont get the biometric chips.
what happened to nothing ever happens? If you live in the boondocks you ain't seeing any action. Supply chain won't be disrupted and probably there are more small power plants dispersed throughout the country that supply little villages. I'd love for something to happen so i can put my rifle to use other than sport shooting
>>2912617how about an asteroid hitting the sea followed by a zombie outbrake followed by the antichrist.
How does that seem for a happening.
>>2910867>Master embrace simplicity
never
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>>2912625great hypothetical scenario. However there's one small issue, it won't happen
>>2907779 (OP)357 Magnum with a single cartridge.
I bet you the people most critical of the preps don't have any preps.
>>2907779 (OP)dont need one. I pay taxes & my govt. will protect me.
>>2912614>dumb plan based around bible versesYeah you're a goner.
>>2912617>Supply chain won't be disruptedHow do you figure that?
>muh rifleIt's sort of an open secret that many boondocks people eat their own gun once they run out of supplies. And that happens when the world is relatively fine
>>2912636I retract my statement. Something actually happened and here i am unprepared with no food to eat and no cash that i could use
>>2912614You are retarded.
yup, metal pipe axe stuff that can be a lever and a hammer, i recommend being nice to your neighbors it is much easier to close off your street to cars and defend a known area than to move somewhere in the middle of chaos.
like less than 100 sand bags to close down most streets to all but the most determined.
>>2907779 (OP)ok whos parents were audience members in the jim baker slop bucket informercials
>>2909389>yeah I could eat this whole thingThis guy has a YouTube channel where he recreates prison cell recipes like prison taffy and other mad filth boiled in a doritos bag. He makes good content but the bar is not high for his taste buds.
>>2914724nta but probably the great spanish/portuguese blackout. the entire countries were without electricity for a day
>>2914950A whole day? Wowzers. However did y'all survive?
I have one of these little hypochlorite generators.
If used with salt water and vinegar it makes hypochlorous acid (HOCl) which is a strong disinfectant.
At a concentration of just 0.02% it works better than rubbing alcohol while being safe enough to use on the eyes.
>>2907990Fucking stupid. First container was just fine and easier to pile up. This takes up more room and just overall extra for no reason.
>>2908274NTA.
The guys that stockpile guns will be making the rules in all honesty.
>>2915109No they won't. This isn't your favourite zombie show.
>>2915109When has that ever worked out in history? The people with guns will be guarding the food & farms in exchange for daily rations.
Either way the US has an incredible surplus of food. $180B of agricultural products are exported every year. The only way people will be going hungry is if there's some biblical disaster like nuclear carpet bombing or a pandemic that kills 70% of us.
Now those middle east and african countries that import 70% or more of their staple foods would be fucked.
>>2907779 (OP)no point in prepping for doomsday civilization ending events
prepping for short natural disasters or civil unrest is okay
>>2915469So what's in your stockpile?
>>2908010The bags it comes in aren't air tight. Bugs will hatch in them guaranteed.
>>2907779 (OP)>Do you have a doomsday stockpile? What's in it and what do you recommend?rifle, bullets, some random food+drink, a wood stove and some random industrial/chemistry equipment. UV-5R and some spare batteries. $500 cash that i was too lazy to put in the bank.
I have long legs, good eyesight, good hearing and a decent enough noggin. It'll all be fine.
recommendation is to lose weight, get accustomed to not eating for long periods of time, put on some muscle and generally make yourself a resilient person. Go on long hikes with no food or water. Doesn't matter if you have all the shiny bullshit survival whatevers if you're a fat chainsmoking twat that can't hardly walk, and can't function if he hasn't had his 6 eggs for breakfast.
>>2915973There are instructions ITT showing you how to rebag it.
huh
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>>2916069>stop eating and put on some muscle
>>2916441It's called going on a cut.
You might not gain as much muscle as you could, but losing fat is always good for you. Down to 15% bf at the bare minimum, ideally 12%
worst part of a shtf situation is getting injured and dying soon after or being incapacitated.
>>2907779 (OP)What are some considerations for a prepper house? I'm about to build a house. I already planned on making it as fireproof as possible, and I'm wondering if I should put steel sheets inside the walls or some shit, and some kind of bullet resistant windows
>>2916719Firing ports, hidden escape route, stashes, rape dungeon, slide, watch tower, you know the usual
>>2907779 (OP)I have gun and bullet to kms myself because I don't want to live in the apocalypse tbqgdhwyf
>>2916754Also I live in the middle of the desert so no le hunting or living innawoods, pointless to be where I am if shtf the fan
>>2916646>It's called going on a cut.Oh you're a dumbass from /fit/. You don't gain a cut, you gain on a bulk. Dumbass. You're seeing more definition because you're losing fat, not because of muscle gain. And you're continually lifting during a cut so that you slow down muscle loss.
>>2916719>>2916753Why are you guys only thinking about firefights for prepping? Too many zombie shows?
>>2916755Why are you there at all? Out in the desert is good for post-apocalypse but not so great in the now times.
>>2916846When chips are down, the have-nots might as well be zombies. Hoard is only good if it's yours.
>>2916862It's more likely you end up scaring away people trying to send you government aid
>>2908306>educational content>noooo it's bad because the guy has a tattooGrow up.
>>2910892>those bottles of popcorn "butter" oil
>>2916847Not by choice, trust me. It's where I was born, studied, have a half-paid property and a steady job
>>2916964Build a prepper basement
jfc, just buy canned stuff and rice just like any other prepper instead of this overpriced garbage. If you really want food to put back for basically eternity, invest in a freeze drier and freeze dry the foods you like.
>>2907990jfc, you don't need to put rice and beans in mylar (nor oxygen absorbers). All it does is give you some additional protection. Preppers from the 90's are just now using their stored rice, and other than some discoloration from oxidation, it's still 100% edible. The mylar is just an extra layer of protection from bugs and moisture.
>>2917731You're telling people to save money then turn around and say buy a freeze drier?
>>2907779 (OP)Bought a cheap VHF handheld radio and configured it with local repeater stations and emergency frequencies.
I also want to buy a storage battery for my photovoltaic plant this year, so I can run it isolated from the net during a blackout.
All our cars run on gas.
>>2918166That's a good idea anon. But what will you eat, screws?
>>2908323Why do you care if the "lowest rung" survive or not? That's their business not yours so why seethe about it like it's in your control anyway?
>>2908349Post the next jars please.
>>2910446I can't eat anything without potatoes.
>>2918407Not a problem during summer, since we have lots of veggies on our property.
During winter, we can get eggs and meat from neighbors. Most older houses in this area also still have artesian wells.
If doomsday actually comes around, I think I'm OK just ending my run.
I'm not concerned with living enough to willingly spend the rest of my foreseeable time on earth holed up in a bunker defending my buckets of preservative-soaked nutrients from marauders.
>>2918638You can buy better food you know
>be me
>have shipping container in the woods
>outfitted for part time living accommodations
>already store food there and only resupply it once every couple of months
>power doesn't go out because all on solar
>dirt bike + small fuel supply + many firearms
The problem with "prepping" is that it's not compatible with most people's everyday life.
It isn't useful at all until one day it could be.
I've incorporated survival based living into a large part of my life there is benefit for me to continue working towards independence from others unlike someone trying to do it in the city or something with a water bill with a sewer bill with a power bill.
There even if you /DIY/ your own utilities, you are required to continue paying for the city utilities regardless, there is no return for you and this is where people fail or fall off.
You have to fully commit and buy land and build it. If you have a neighbour within 1km, you are just doing it incorrectly. Even if there never is this apocalypse or something, you still have a cool weekend cabin or place you can take your kids to and raise them right with outdoor experiences.
>>2918863What are you talking about? It can be done in a city.
>store healthy food items that you eat regularly anyway>own a generatorWhat does paying utility bills have to do with anything?
>>2918863Word.
Preparedness and Self-Reliance must be all-encompassing lifestyles if they actually expected to save, secure and survive anyone. our version is not perfect, has MANY potential flaws, but always a work-in-progress, evolving and changing as we learn and adapt.
you must be Master of your resources. you must have what/when others do not, and it MUST be free of strings. you must also have redundancy. one generator quickly becomes none.
we are well & septic. we'll is powered by a carefully chosen low watt pump of quality manufacture. we have a back-up pump in storage & are saving up for a second variable control system. we have a small whole-home solar power system that can carry 125% of our CRITICAL load (freezer, fridge, water well, water heater) with a battery backup. it is also *one-way* grid tied. we can recieve, but do not export. it runs 24/7 supplying about 30% of our daily consumption. our water heater and HVAC systems are heat pumps, so can be run on solar. we use woodstoves to heat our home, but have mini-splits as backup. we have a propane oven/range and a wood fired oven/range. we won't freeze & we can cook food if SHTF.
we have livestock for meat, dairy & compost. we keep a large garden and are always expanding our young orchard.
I am a tradeworker with countless skills & I keep a large (random) inventory of spare parts, machine components, fasteners and building supplies.
but perhaps more important than all of that is: WE LIVE DEBT FREE. if the bottom falls out of society, we own our shit & will defend it.
Seal wheat and sugar in mylar
https://providentliving.churchofjesuschrist.org/food-storage/home-storage-center-locations-map?lang=eng
My doomsday stockpile is just joining whatever posse of feds or local police is in force in my area when shit collapses.
The best 1 nigga with a gun can hope for is one or two ambushes vs organized violence before he gets doinked
>>2919002I'm smarter than everyone else, so that means all of my enemies will approach my house one by one through an open field in broad daylight, and I will have been diligent to stockpile 30000 rounds in preparation.
>>2912638Based and best answer ITT
>>2907779 (OP)I've got enough milled grains, vegetable oil, and dried legumes and fruit for my household to survive on nothing else for about a year. I'm not gonna list all the nonfood stuff I've got, but I'm going to mention my most useful survival tool: A good reputation in a tight-knit small town.
Invest in food for a year, two at most, and beyond that in increasing order of importance: tools, skills, and community. A hoard of 25-year bags of commercial goyslop isn't going to save you indefinitely. If after a disaster or war your local community can't produce enough food to sustain itself and civilisation as a whole isn't at a point where it can help, your home is fucked for long term survival anyway and theres only so much food you can carry when you flee to somewhere sufficient crops can be grown.
If push comes to shove, you want to be the paragon of the community everyone looks to for survival until the spring crops, not the loner crank who sits in his home with half a metric ton of imitation macaroni and cheese who's just one poorly timed nap away from being a loot-crate for his increasingly desperate neighbours.
>>2907779 (OP)I'm in the city, so I only prep for temporary store shortage, I just focus more on staying /fit/ because I'm not in a secure location, I own nothing more than what I can carry.
I stock my pantry with things I actually use, things that are better canned or are nutrient dense. Canned tomatoes and canned chicken stock,I some dried beans. I don't bother with canned beans as the take up the space for canned meat. If you have a bigger space, canned beans in addition to dried beans is a good idea as it takes water, heat and time to cook dry beans.
I try to go out into the suburbs where stock is actually rotated more often for canned meat with a longer shelf life so I don't have to eat it as often to rotate it, fresh meat is healthier.
I have two jugs of water I rotate out on my potted plants and water in the fridge, but I'm not going to buy bottled water as it's not something I'll rotate out, what dried beans I have can be cooked in canned tomatoes and/or chicken stock.
>>2908252>don't protect you while you sleepthe people in control (with guns) probably won't let themselves be sitting ducks...
>>2915973>>2915973Why would the mylar bag be necessary? Most of those food safe buckets with a screw top have a gasket that makes them watertight. I know because I have some.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Bucket-Companion-5-gal-Black-Paint-Bucket-Lid-LD5GRLBK006/303808738
$5.98 at Home Depot
>>2919002Why do you assume you'll be targeted?
>>2919002Depends what kind of collapse you're anticipating
If you're anticipating something like the USSR collapse, society didn't really collapse completely, people just struggled a lot to feed themselves: one nigga with a gun and a lot of food is perfect
If you're anticipating something like the bronze age collapse, then yes you'll need more
>>2919973True, if you have the right kind of lids the mylar isn't necessary.
>>2921926it's about longevity
all the mormons do mylar and gamma lids
keeps air out longer
everything leaks eventually
>>2912612He's holding the bullet that removes your vile ass from this earth. Second paragraph he mentions ammo for .223, .308 and .22 rifles, and shotgun shells. Logic would indicate the man owns at least 4 guns then.
>>2911033Solar oven. Retained heat cooking via a thermo or hay box. Cresson H. Kearny did research for the US Civil Defense program and published Nuclear war Survival Skills that's free online if you need some place to start.
>>2916441The idea is to reduce your calorie needs while keeping as much strength as possible, not to become some hulking bodybuilder faggot. "Gainz" is secondary to surviving.
The average person is a fat slob with hardly any muscle, my post was written under that assumption.
>>2919015King of the cul-de-sac they call him
>>2907779 (OP)>Do you have a doomsday stockpile? Yes
>What's in it and what do you recommend?Beans
>>2907779 (OP)>Do you have a doomsday stockpile?Yes.
>What's in it and what do you recommend?beans rice and ammo.
>>2907779 (OP)>GLOOMTUBE-core
>>2910869Ah yes, wheat, famously known for its nutritionally dense properties and not the reason sailors incurred scurvy on long voyages.
it is far cheaper to make your own stockpiles, as others have said in this thread, beans and rice are the ideal food stockpile, if you properly preserve them, beans and rice in mylar bags locked in an airtight container with the oxygen removed and kept in a cool place can last indefinitely, don't waste money on premade kits that will only last 5 years. you can live off of rice and beans with only minor supplements as well.
>>2907990>buy 2 bags of rice>eat through one bag>buy additonal bag when you've eaten one bag>rotate stock>repeat for literally any food that does not spoil quicklySurvival MREs are dumb too unless you periodically eat them and buy new ones.
Also oxygen absorbers are designed to be used in humid storage and don't absorb well in low humidity. He's not wrong, because it will work a little and low oxygen + low humidity will give the longest shelf life. The rice would have already lasted decades with just being put into a mason jar.
>>2908010Rice will slowly absorb moisture from the air each time you open the container, however we are talking years.
>>2910897>Look up the nutritional value of ramenEveryone should be supplemetnting with greens including wild greens, vegetables and meat. Having calories to avoid starvation is important because you can eat some dandelions at 25kcal/100g
>>2911030100g of dry white rice is 350kcal and cooks 2:1 water. At 1000kcal a day for rice that is 300g / day per person. A year is 110kg. A koku is 187.5 kilograms of rough rice, 150 kg of brown rice, or 136.5 kg of milled rice. Which means my calculation is close.
Note that this rice needs to be supplemented with greens, meat and vegetables.
>>2911033>but the problem is that they take so long to boilThey take the same time to cook as rice. You can drop them in the rice cooker with rice.
>>2919002>is just joining whatever posse of feds or local police is in force in my area when shit collapses.This is the correct answer. Functional communities with 24/7 security absolutely destroy raiders.
>>2915109>The guys that stockpile guns will be making the rules in all honesty.The guys who stockpile guns will be trading their guns and ammo for food with functional communities. Or they will die because literally everyone has guns and a few boxes of ammo.
>>2915469Both scenarios are actually the same when you think about it, or at least the way I see it its about buying yourself time. In case of total collapse or civil war, you're prepping for the first few months so you can avoid getting caught up in riots and looting for food and necessities, and so you can have some time to figure out what exactly is happening or where to go.
If its some passing calamity (outages, natural disaster, etc), its still helping you avoid potential problems and means you can just keep your head down and be comfy until it blows over.
>>2918878oh neat the diary of an actual retard.
if the bottom falls out of society you think the banks are going to ramp up their foreclosures or something?
PS your property tax bill is due at the end of this month
>>2908825"tamper proof air" until your 3 roommates start digesting all those canned beans
>>2925212you can be an angry government faggot sitting in your office writing emails demanding payments while missiles crash around you if that's your understanding of reality
>>2923817just have some vitamin C, retard
>>2916844That's an over simplification, you certainly don't gain as much muscle on a sensible cut compared to a sensible bulk or staying the same, but you can put on muscle mass through the exercise even during a sensible cut (just not as much).
>>2916844>>2927107So the original posters way does check out to be the fastest possible way of getting into good shape from being fat, as opposed to eating the same calorific content whilst putting on muscle. But it adding to the complexity and also the difficulty of staying disciplined whilst eating less and gaining the habit of exercise might not make it the most realistic or best.
>>2915107At least put it in vacuum sealed mason jars and rotate it through your pantry.
An expanded, rotating pantry is better than any larping bullshit like that.
>>2918166>Bought a cheap VHF handheldHappy Field Day
>>2907779 (OP)I have at least 100 different dragon dildos so I'll never be horny when shtf.
>>2907779 (OP)>Do you have a doomsday stockpile?Yeah, yours.
>>2907779 (OP)2 weeks of food, water, fuel for cooking and medicine
also a small stock of electronics parts to do projects with in case the chinese chimp out again
>>2907779 (OP)>Have a survival target>1 gallon of water per day + water filter>Taste and variety is important, because morale is very important. Even in not a disaster you will want to kill yourself eating the same trail mix and canned chili for 3 days straight.>surplus MREs have gotten very cheap recently, and have the variety that's needed, buy 50% normal ones, 50% low sodium. high sodium ones have up to 60% sodium RDA in the main dish>canned foods are fine for prepping>>2907990This is basically how MREs are packaged.
>>2925177You're right, because they are iron based. MREs still use oxygen absorbents in dry bags.
>>2908898Nukes aren't real. Even if they were just tape up your windows, turn off HVAC, and wait 2 weeks anyways.
>>2909639No they don't have guns
im really fat and keep eating all of the food before i can stockpile ;(
>>2908274>world fallsSlavemind.
>>2910866Voluntary exchange is positive sum, slavemind, memetic parasites fucking off does not impede the Superorganism in the slightest.
>>2907779 (OP)I am self reliant and far enough in the woods that I can live my life, or perpetual lives, without the need of any society currently.
I never understood bugout. It's either people who think a room full of canned goods will last a lifetime or office workers who think they are operators and are gonna walk into the woods and survive.
>>2907779 (OP)Not intentionally but when covmeme happened we had food enough for a year in our pantry, as usual.
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