Thread 2924407

Reminder that you're not a man if you keep the guard on the grinder.

>>2924407 (OP)
do you eat the crust on your pizza?

>>2924407 (OP)
thats a cute little toy
do you keep it in you purse for hector to use?

>>2924411
I ONLY eat the crust on pizza

>>2924413
>7 inch
lol. babby tier

>>2924407 (OP)
No, I like my fingers too much, so I use the guard.

I didn't see it happen, but I heard the scream on a jobsite when a guy lost control of his grinder and he cut off all 4 fingers

>>2924413
Imagine not owning the king of grinders, the Black and Decker Wildcat.

ISHYGDDT

anyone see that south african robot movie where the wolverine guy's response to every problem is to look for an angle grinder

>>2924407 (OP)
>Learned the hard way to keep the guard on

>>2924407 (OP)
Some retarded asshole posted this a while back. Are you the same retarded asshole?

>>2924407 (OP)
its like the diy variant of trigger unsafety on k

>>2924527
Guards obstruct my view of the work.

>>2924407 (OP)
I've never seen one irl. Not sure if I've ever seen a picture of one now that I think about it.

>>2924458
he wasnt using them anyway as he lost control

>>2924458
It must have been his second or third accident if he only had four fingers to lose.

>>2924407 (OP)
>>2924554
>black
>complete disregard for safety

>>2924840
it's 100% safe as long as you pay attention.

>yeah im so manly i do not use kneepads when working blue collar
enjoy your injuries when you are 50

>>2924407 (OP)
yeah, because being a disabled failure without several fingers due to some random kickback is the epithome of manliness. only literal cucks need to bring out some random retarded acts of endangering oneself, for literally nothing to gain from it whatsoever, to feel manly about, because they have nothing else

>>2924982
pizza crust?

>>2924840
Those are clearly saars or paki hands

someone edit that /k/ ND pasta but make it a guy who loses a finger while being stupid with a grinder.

Sometimes, in order to do right, the rules become a hindrance and even a danger instead of anything protective.
You will see this if you have become skilled at anything at all -- there will be rules that you break in order to be safe and effective. (No, the reference to vaccine misinformation is not intended.)

>>2925063
This is true of many things, but literally when is it safer to operate a grinder without a guard?

Works good at cutting wood

>>2925349
guard catches on something mid-cut, cut drifts, hand slips, whatever. doesn't matter; unexpected interruptions to power tool operation is asking for trouble. guard contributes to such scenarios.

>>2925375
you unironically can cut wood with a grinder very safely if you have a proper disc and not just slap a blade for a circular saw on it

>>2925379
You don't plan your cuts in advance?

>>2925406
You're meticulously inspecting every cut from every angle and drawing diagrams before using this brutish tool?

>>2925435
When fitting for a weld, which is mostly what they're for, of course. Your failure to understand why accurate manual grinding matters and where indicates you're too stupid to post here. Stray damage can easily fail a weld inspection.

>>2925436
>I have a specific use-case for this general-purpose tool
>my process for grinding is obviously the only correct and safe way to do it
Get your head out of your ass. You may be working in a lab environment, that's cool. Some of us are out here cutting in sub-optimal positions and locations. Things don't always go as planned. Sometimes the guard gets in the way.

>>2925406 here, I pretty much exclusively cut in fucky environments, and no I'm not drawing diagrams usually, but I am developing an intentional plan about where the disc is going to go, where the guard is going to go, where the grinder might go if something goes wrong, and where I'm going to go to keep solid grip and control on it and stay out of its way before I even put in the battery or plug it into the wall. I'll even quickly rehearse the cut with no power to the tool first usually.

>>2925558
>>2925435
>>2925453

meant to also mark replies to these posts. I'm more careful with a grinder than I am posting on 4chan.

If the guard is in your way, you probably need a smaller grinder. A lot can happen with even a little Dremel and some patience.

>>2925379
>guard catches on something mid-cut, cut drifts, hand slips,
Lol shut the fuck up. Ever used a grinder? Talking utter shit. Poster said SAFETY. could a guard foul your cut? Yea possibly. Could that put you in danger? No of course not unless you are the same kind of idiot that takes the guard off. I.e. you have the iq of a monkey andyour walls are caked in the shit that you throw at them.

>risks crippling himself while probably working a cash job for some jew
I shaggy doggy scooby don’t hope you do that.

Two ways to go guardless:
>Naive and reckless
>Skilled and intentional

If you're out here suggesting that it's appallingly dangerous to circumvent a safety feature, maybe you're only revealing your lack of skill.
It's good that you recognize the danger; don't mistake that insight for competence.

>Anyone going slower than me is a moron, and anyone going faster than me is a maniac.

>>2925620
The guard is what stops the blade throwing shit back into your face
I like to be able to look at watching I'm cutting which means avoiding that happening.
If yo are so skilled you can cut blind then I take my hat off to you.
I couldn't care less if you use a guard or not.

I know this is 4chan but it's not 2006 any more. OP trolling someone into losing an eye isn't funny andit isn't appropriate for a blue board.

>>2924407 (OP)
grinder guards, like seat belts, are an IQ test.

>>2924497
I completely forgot they made a rock em sock em robots movie. I can't even remember what the real name is but I know what you're talking about. Looked like trash, never watched it.

>>2924439
I only have a 4" harbor freight with guard on

>>2927891
And it's corded

>>2925671
Couldn't agree more. Anyone that uses either is a low IQ moron.

>>2927891
>>2927893
I only used it one time. But I will say it got the job done and for only 15 bucks

>>2927893
Good choice. Chainmail and a facemask might help.

Be honest OP, you're just too brown to afford a new guard since you broke the old one through your incompetence.
Anyway, I don't know how a guard even helps, I always assumed it only protects your eyes by deflecting shrapnel away from you.

>>2927934
Deflects shrapnel away from your eyes, and also keeps you from accidentally knicking your fingers while the blade/discs spinning.

I understand the reasons for it, but they just get in the way 90% of the time. It only works well when you are cutting in a certain position facing a certain direction. Even the guards that can swivel a bit to move around still get in the way all the time.

Basically keep the gaurd on if you are new to it. Take the guard off once you know what you are doing. And always wear safety glasses and/or gloves.

>>2927940
Wearing gloves near spinning things is even more retarded than not using a guard.

>>2927949
Depends on the situation, Billybob. Using a lathe? No gloves. Using a tablesaw? No gloves. Using a drill press? No gloves. Using a grinder? Use gloves.

>>2927951
Retard.

>>2927962
no u

>>2927934
you adjust it to deflect sparks mostly.

>>2927949
>>2927951
Tear away gloves around twisty tools.

>>2927992
No, you adjust it to try and keep it out of the way of what you're doing. Then it ends up constantly being in the way still, so you chuck the guard into the scrap bin where it belongs.

>>2924407 (OP)
Those little 4 and 4.5" grinders are just for finishing work and not much good for cutting. I use a 9" for cutting heavy carbon steel plate and keep the guard on because it shoots out about a 6ft long shower of sparks that sets things on fire, its set me on fire twice so far which wasn't nearly as funny as it sounds.

>>2924407 (OP)
>brown hands in OP

>>2927951
This. The whole "no gloves around anything that spins" is bullshit propaganda. It is wholly dependent on the task at hand. Also angle grinders don't exactly make enough torque to deglove your hand like a lathe will and you are usually handling hot parts from welding or cutting the steel. Gloves are a must of you are doing anything substantial.

>>2928143
Also if you're using it like you're supposed to, there is... a guard... between the fabric and the spinny disc.

>>2928051
sorry about your retardation anon, I've never had the guard "get in the way"
anyways yes the guard is in fact meant to deflect sparks and also shrapnel in the case of disk failure

>>2928064
makes sense since only brownoids can't figure out how to adjust a fucking angle grinder guard and decide to just take it off instead

are there transparent guards

I have seen grinder disks shatter and shrapnel fly across the room and embed itself in a wall, no way am I not using a guard and safety glasses

Dismembering yourself to own the libs.

>>2924407 (OP)
>a man
the word you're looking for is "injured". you're not injured if you keep the guard on the grinder

>>2924407 (OP)
My dad does it just like picrel, no protection whatsoever and the only handle you need is grinder's body.

>>2924458
why didnt he let go of the on button while it was cutting all 4 fingers off?

>>2928064
>>2928253
"Brown hands" run more angle grinders than anyone else, and also this is a stock photo, most people use a guard IRL.

I always wondered what would happen if I accidentally touched the outer rotating plastic part of my drill when it was rotating - would there be blood everywhere and horrible injury or would it simply brush off, but it was something I never wanted to find out so took great care in not letting it hit.

Well today was doing something involving switching bits in and out quickly and also reversing the drill to remove screws and trying to do it quickly, everything got confused and to my shock it happenened, I let my hand hit off the turning drill. Fortunately it just brushed off, as I kind of figured it would, but I also didn't know, like it was high speed, high torque spinning. It was something I never thought would happen but it did.

Rotating shafts on for example farm equipment are also absolutely deadly. I've seen enough rotating shaft accidents and mutilations to be scared to be within a 10 foot vicinity of a rotating shaft. A bit of loose clothing is all it needs - it grabs the clothing and it doesn't fucking let go, soon your limbs are all around the shaft getting made into mince meat literally.

Anyway sorry for the tangent but the point is things that look safe can be extremely deadly. And things that you believe you'll never allow occur can occur. You think it's hard with ladies today just wait until you lose an arm.

>>2928588
>I let my hand hit off the turning drill
I should clarify the outer part of the drill, the plastic as I say. Not the metal drill itself, which would be far worse.

>>2927940
W-what's a "ZJ"...?

>>2928722
>W-what's a "ZJ"...?

Zandy Jobandy.

>>2928436
what does it take to shatter a grinding disc? ive only ever chipped a disc, also i notice sometimes the grinder rattles like crazy when im trying to make a cut, why?
-angle grinder noob diyer

>>2927949
if you aren't retarded, use the grinder properly and keep the guard on, your gloves aren't near anything spinning and only improve the grip.

>>2928054
>Those little 4 and 4.5" grinders
what's even the point of those? just use a 5'' for smaller or more precise tasks and 9'' for serious cutting. there's no benefit whatsoever in going 4.5'' over 5'' and if you want something really precise, just use a right angle die grinder with a 1-2'' disc. In Europe 5''/125mm is basically the default size and it's sometimes hard to even get discs for 4.5''/115mm grinders, not to mention 4''/100mm, which are basically non-existant

>>2928727
>also i notice sometimes the grinder rattles like crazy when im trying to make a cut, why?
you were probably using a cheapass disc, which was unbalanced

>>2924407 (OP)
Fuck off brown hands!

i will always use a guard on an angle grinder. doesnt matter if im chopping a post down at ground level or sanding tube for a railing. stop being a chimp

>>2928785
the only chimps are the ones who can't figure out how to use a grinder without exploding their discs

know how to use a grinder properly? no need for a guard. simple as.

>>2928727
Sometimes the edge of the disk will glaze or wear unevenly and start hopping. Push down a little harder to quickly wear through that spot and it will start cutting well again.

>>2928745
I'm like a god-damn surgeon with a 4-4.5" grinder. Also they'll take up to a 7" disk if you're not a pussy like most the people posting on here are.

>>2928822
>Sometimes the edge of the disk will glaze or wear unevenly and start hopping
pipefighters taught me how to notch a suicidewheel with a pair of dykes to makes it cut faster and cooler
or just cut something that pinchs the wheel so you have break it free. makes it cut like a raped ape. picel is still going strong
on an unrelated note dewalt ceramic discs are pretty tough and last a damn long time but cut kinda slow. they are a lot like og 3m greencorps

>>2928831
they even have the audacity to threaten me for wanting to be productive
challenge accepted

>>2924407 (OP)
I'm not a man with missing fingers, you mean. Yes, correct

>>2928722
If you have to ask, you can’t afford it.

>>2928817
doesnt matter how well you know how to use it, they can still blow with a slight bit of pressure on the side. ive only seen it once on a 9incher but i was glad to be behind the bloke who was cutting

I can't stop buying angle grinders, bros. I already had a 1700W chink corded grinder with variable RPM, corded variable RPM 900W Bosch, 4.5'' 18V brushed ryobi with a paddle swich, 4.5 and 5'' 18V brushless Einhell grinders, 18V variable RPM 5'' and 36V 9'' brushless Makita and I couldn't resist and just bought a 1400W corded DeWalt with a paddle switch, because it was 80$ on amazon.

>>2928745
>what's even the point of those?
Basically small-work and finishing, cleaning up welds, prepping areas to be clean and if you get into the deep pockets, degenerate alley of flap discs, scotchbrite stuff and all that nonsense you can get some fairly decent finishes on some metals without a lot of skill or effort. Or at least with a coat of spray-filler primer and few coats of rattle can it doesn't look like it was assembled and welded by a badly trained monke... which is sometime I'm guilty of from time to time
Entry level for small grinders is pretty low cost, not intimidating and very easy to use
Ideal for women, children and men who spend most of their life pretending they know shit after buying their first dual-cab ute

>>2928914
but you can do all those things with a 5'' grinder and you get some additional clearance for bigger stuff

>>2924407 (OP)
>>2924554
>>2924848
>>2925379
>>2925453
You sound like a faggot boomer thinking you're being tough because you're too lazy to go get the proper tool. Or think that safety is for pussies because you care what other people think, like a faggot. I used to work with a dude who lost an eye because "safety glasses are for pussies", who still didn't wear safety glasses after losing one eye.

>>2928916
>but you can do all those things with a 5'' grinder and you get some additional clearance for bigger stuff
Hint, you can run a bigger disk on a small grinder if you take the guard off. Why pay more for a 5" grinder when a 4" will do the same exact thing.

>>2928939
your old coworker sounds like a real man and you sound like a pussy zoomer bitch.
>muh safety glassess!! muh PPE!!
more like personal pussy equipment. real men get the job done irregardless of whatever safety faggots say, that's why we go home and sleep well knowing we put in a hard days work instead of fucking around with safety gear for half the shift. we show up to work not be safe.

>>2928939
I can't speak for that other anon, but it's not about being tough. I'm a wimp and there are lots of things I won't do because they're dangerous. But a grinder with no guard? Really? That's genuinely so so so so so so risky and I'll definitely lose an eye?
Maybe I should put a guard on my cordless drill, or on my hammer -- holy moly, I can swing a hammer and make the chips and nails fly! Better weld a big fucking plate just above the grip so nothing flies back into my face!
No. Like with any other tool, the right place to put the barrier is around the thing you want to protect, and not around the tool.
I wear my safety glasses and earmuffs (and sometimes gloves) -- I don't muffle my tools or surround them with walls.

>>2928916
Same reason people buy a 250cc dirt bike instead of a 5 or 600cc adventure touring bike.
>Cheap to run
>Easy to use
>Low skill to operate
They're not really that useful for professionals but the average big box beater or corded Ryobi grinder isn't going to cost them much more than 50euro or us dollars and they'll probably have enough left for some discs and do some DIY crap
Got to remember, vast majority of the markets out there for tools isn't for professionals, maybe 10% tops in a lot of cases, another 10% for people who know what they're doing and the remaining 80% have a notion and hankering to fuck around but don't want to spend a lot of money to do it.

>>2925453
lol are you stealing catalytic converters?

>>2929159
No, I use a sawzall for that

>>2928973
>Why pay more for a 5" grinder when a 4" will do the same exact thing.
must be an American thing. in Europe, 4.5'' grinders cost the same as 5'', just harder to get and the selection of discs is much smaller and 4'' are basically impossible to get. also, why would I use a grider without a guard when I can just get a matching grinder and not get sparks all over myself and subject myself to an uncecessary risk of a grinder kicking back into my fingers or a disc shrapnel lodging inside my ballsack

>>2929212
It is the same here they're just being stupid.

>>2927894
>don't wear seatbelt
>retard crashes into you or some idiot gets angry you pass him and side sweeps you
inb4
>im such a skilled defensive driver that’d like never happen!

>>2928913
You’re still missing a (or a bunch of, really) proper Metabo one! They’ve got a bunch of features no one else has. Also you really need that new Fein, sealed brushless one.

>>2929978
nta. just here to brag about snagging a spare 6" metabo on auction for cheap

>>2928817
>the only chimps are the ones who can't figure out how to use a grinder without exploding their discs
>know how to use a grinder properly? no need for a guard. simple as.

yeha bro! Those discs are made with extreme detail and precision in some factory in China, there's no way they would ever explode as long as I use them right! I trust these Chinese made discs with my life, you only need a guard if you don't know how to use them and are stupid haha.

>>2929895
>>don't wear seatbelt
>>retard crashes into you or some idiot gets angry you pass him and side sweeps you
>inb4
>>im such a skilled defensive driver that’d like never happen!

Imagine being so incompetent that you would let someone crash into your vehicle... ISHYGDDT

>>2930014
>yeha bro! Those discs are made with extreme detail and precision in some factory in China, there's no way they would ever explode as long as I use them right! I trust these Chinese made discs with my life, you only need a guard if you don't know how to use them and are stupid haha.

Finally someone with some reason here. Also pro tip. Really doesn't matter if they explode as long as you have a firm and manly grip on the grinder to keep it in control and don't have your face or neck in line with the wheel rotation.

>>2930014
quit buying chinkshit abrasives
the cut speed and longevity alone are worth the price difference

>>2930014
>>2930083
forgot picel for seething poorfags

>>2930083
>>2930084
>flap discs
lol, check out this retard cutting metal with a flap disk.

>>2930094
>grindlets jamalbrain cant internally visualize any purpose besides zipwheeling off padlocks
how would you feel if you hadnt eaten breakfast this morning?

>>2924407 (OP)
Show hands with timestamp

>>2930084
Meh I buy cut-off wheels by the 500 count off e-bay. Cheapest ones get my vote. Lincoln abrasives was the name of them this last time. H&M abrasives or something along those lines the time before.

>>2930143
Did you even read what you’ve been replying to? The whole issue being discussed is about cutting discs shattering, you coming in with a totally different disk doesn’t have anything to do with the topic at hand.
My European made Mirka and Festool disks for my orbital sander don’t shatter either, but that’s not what we’re talking about.

>>2930150
they're already in the OP pic

>>2930515
Kek

While we're on the subject, what does /diy/ think of top slide switch grinders, versus the usual side slide/paddle/trigger configurations?

>>2930723
I don't care where the switch is as long as I can take the guard off. Any real man will agree.

>>2930723
any grinder with a non locking switch that has to be held on can go in the junk bin

>>2930730
>>2930737
Funny, even when a switch locks on, I always run ti with the lock off. Sometimes I'm tempted to flip the lock on, but I take that as a sign something wrong with my positioning or posture and adjust.

>>2924994
>brown hands
>thinks there's an actual difference

Angle grinders and even the CoCraft dremel tool I bought once scare me. The attachment mechanism of the blade to the dremel tool seems really frail and like it's gonna hop off and shoot into my brain.

Gonna cry?

>>2932190
I just checked the kit and found different attachment mechanism than that EZ speedclick shit.

Still, I worry the grinder disk is gonna explode and blind me.

>>2932195
And then I set it down and some minutes later broke the disc when I was careless while moving tools around.
This is the strongest argument in favor guardfags imo.

>>2932195
>cutting threaded rod
>virtually any metal cutting tool will work, from a recip to purpose-named machines
>chooses something that sends sparks everywhere
>uses it in a way that makes it send even more sparks even more everywhere

This isn't even just a safety thing, this is like using a screwdriver as a chisel to cut wood instead of a circular saw.

Sure, why not,what could possibly go wrong.
My father, BTW, had deep cuts in several fingers. Luckily, he did not cut them off, but cleaning wounds from the metal was long and painful.

feels more comfortable than the ones with side switch
perfect for cutting with one hand and holding with the other
not as great as end switch grinders for two handed work
>>2932254
>this is like using a screwdriver as a chisel to cut wood instead of a circular saw.
just say you're scared of grinders, pussy
>>2932648
I've seen worse, good thing he's not using wood cutting disks

>>2928588
>what would happen if I accidentally touched the outer rotating plastic part of my drill when it was rotating
I've been hot swapping bits since before my 12th birthday
you sound like a baka ass faggot

>>2932805
>just say you're scared of grinders, pussy

I'm scared of grinders, pussy

>>2932829
That's not what hot swapping means

>>2932867
it usually means a trip to the free clinic

>>2928817
I've had multiple discs explode on first spinup without touching any material. Trusting your safety to chinese manufacturing is shitjeet level brain activity.

>>2932950
What heinous shit brand discs are you using?

Local welding suppliers tend to carry what works well becuase their customers are nearly all industrial. I can't remember the last time I had a disc let go without being damaged first, and I use them all the time.

>>2932254
the sparks aren't hurting anyone, wtf are you so worried about
and in the same post you suggest that a circ saw which throws sawdust everywhere is somehow good

>>2924407 (OP)
I care more about keeping all my fingers where they're supposed to be than what some addle-pate on 4chins thinks of my manhood.

>>2925379
>guard contributes to such scenarios.
You mean helps protect you when they happen because you were doing something stupid.

>>2932805
>just say you're scared of grinders, pussy
You should respect them more, but hey, you're the one who's gonna need an automatic jar opener in a couple years.

>>2925375
>>2925394
>Basically every single saw meant for wood functions with teeth that move in their cutting motion to press the wood into a stationary plate so that the wood is cut instead of catching on the teeth
>Retards think cutting it with a free-spinning blade is a good idea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7xWHEWov8M&rco=1

>>2932805
>I've seen worse, good thing he's not using wood cutting disks
wood cutting discs are fine and perfectly safe, but use an actual grinder disc intended for cutting wood, not just slap a circular saw blade on it

>>2928588
>>2932829
>>2932867
>That's not what hot swapping means
if it means holding the chuck with one hand and squeezing the trigger with the other to hold or release the bit, then it's literally how you're supposed to change drill bits if you want it to be quick. what's even unsafe about it?

>>2933012
>Basically every single saw meant for wood functions with teeth
and what made you think that a proper grinder (which has a completely different power and speed curve than a saw) disc meant for wood functions with teeth too?
I get not doing any research about the bullshit you're trying to talk about, but the post you're responding to literally had a picture of a proper grinding disc designed for cutting wood. are you basically clinically retarded?
it's even much easier to do precise or ad hoc cuts with it than with a saw, because it's much thinner and with a segmented disc there's no kickback no matter how you apply it and at what angle, unlike with teeth.

>>2933023
>Some company makes a blade for wood, that means it's a good idea!
Full. Retard.

>>2933023
>because it's much thinner and with a segmented disc there's no kickback no matter how you apply it and at what angle, unlike with teeth.
Also, bullshit on this, and angle grinder can catch and kick on you way easier than a recip saw, which is the appropriate tool for demo work.

>>2933066
>wood carving disc
>not for cutting kerfs
>somehow the anon you're replying to is the retard
If you have a grip on the grinder and don't try to plunge cut like a dumbass or cut on the wrong side of the disc, you won't have any kickback.

>>2933066
I'm now convinced your IQ must be below the legal treshold for mental retardation
>dumb fuck references a post presenting a proper wood cutting disc for grinders without teeth by posting that wood cutting discs are dangerous because of the teeth
>I clarify again that there's no fucking teeth in a wood cutting disc that's actually meant for grinders and that he's too retarded to even understand what he's replying to
>the dumb fuck is confused again and is sperging out something about companies
comedy gold
>>2933071
try reading the post you're replying to again

>>2933071
wrong quote >>2933082 meant for >>2933067

>>2933071
>>2933082
>>2933083
>Two absolute retards arguing you're fine using the wrong tool that will leave you with fewer fingers when it acts unexpectedly
>Not if, when

>>2933207
there's nothing more dangerous in cutting wood with a non-toothed disc designed for that purpose, than there's in cutting metal or concrete. it may be dangerous to a moron like you, but so is using a grinder in general

>>2933210
Metal abrades and melts from a cutting disc, it's a homogeneous material with predictable effects on contact with an abrasive cutting disc.

Wood is a natural composite of fibers and polymer (lignin) whose cutting properties change depending on the direction you cut it in, and burns when abraded. Just use the right tool for the job instead of trying to magic your angle grinder into doing everything. And again, just because they make a disc that does it, doesn't mean it's the right tool for the job.

The only time I'd use with an angle grinder on wood is for power carving with a specialized disc like the Kutzall burr discs that hold like a grinding wheel.

>>2933213
never claimed it's the proper tool (especially considering how difficult it would be to maintaing a straight cut with it), just that you can do it in pinch and there nothing more dangerous about it with a proper disc. the structure of something as soft in relation to the cutting power as wood is irrelevant if there's nothing on the blade that could get it stuck

>>2933215
If you're "in a pinch" why would you have a dedicated wheel for cutting it?

>>2933215
>the structure of something as soft in relation to the cutting power as wood is irrelevant if there's nothing on the blade that could get it stuck

>>2933216
it's my default wheel installed on the grinder. it's meant for wood, metal, plastic, etc. and I only change it for something more specific when there's a lot of cutting

>>2933217
>I specifically made a point about a non-toothed blade, even the whole fucking reply chain is about the difference between a dedicated disc and just slapping a saw blade on a grinder
>posts a clip of a saw with a toothed saw blade
are you retarded?

>>2933219
No, but you clearly are.

>>2933223
>n-no u
exactly what a retard called out on his illiteracy would respond. it's not possible that someone, who cites a sentence specifically referencing non-toothed discs not getting stuck, as opposed to saw blades, and then tries to refute it by literally posting a saw with a toothed blade getting stuck, is not below the IQ treshold for mental retardation

>>2933227
What SEA country are you from that you try to use an angle grinder for everything?

>>2924840
Contractors here in Malta always get the blame for the frequent accidents involving thirdy worldies on building sites, but you just can not, no matter how hard you try, persuade them to the potential dangers. Lateral thinking Is not their forte.

>>2932956
Every brand that does their manufacturing in China (all brands) has failed on me in that way, big name or not.
Just use 50 or more in a day and you'll find them, too.

>>2933236
never even visited it, or any country outside of Europe for that matter, and it doesn't logically follow anything in the slightest

>>2932983
You are and idiot. Two times I had to drive my kid to er, because she was watching nice sparks and that ended with metal bits from the sparks in her eye. Note, that she was like 3-4 meters away.
I myself damaged glasses with these harmless sparks. And glasses cost about 500 Eur.

Most dangerous tool in site
>one handed
>spinning
>powerful
>blades shatter
>throws debris
>used in tight spaces
>shit safety system
>no kickback protection
I used one this week as a circular saw, the angle grinder is the tool of choice for anything that would get you kicked off site or put in hospital

Latest angle grinder related fuck up.
Someone's shirt wrapped in it and sucked it towards his body, he couldn't manually disengage the safety fast enough, at high torque or sudden change in torque it doesn't shut off, it just rips things into our like a giant fishing reel. That was last week.

The week before one ate 20 meters of this kevlar fencing tap and fucked itself.
Week before that some douchebag threwsparks onto an empty petrol can, thankfully nothing came of it.

The guard isn't just to stop sparks and stop you throwing an arc of flaming metal into petrol cans, it also stops shit that gets caught in the grinder flinging the grinder itself. Because if whatever you snag can't suck into it, it'll pull the grinder out of your hand and beyblade it at something.

I use a guard and a grip so that my retarded brown co-workers that can't use a grinder with guard and grip don't use my grinder, I even put threadlocker on both.

Simple.
As.

>>2925608
I think that:

>I hope you Scooby-Dooby-Don't do that

might have worked better; just a mild critique? -maybe there's another joke I'm not getting..

>>2925453
>Sometimes the guard gets in the way.
Wow, if only it had a quick disconnect so you can arbitrarily rotate it or remove it all together on a whim without any tools or pre-planning

>>2935252
No it wouldn't.
He's trying to play ishygddt
Which is often memes as I shiggy diggy

He went far off base, and yours just made it illegible

>>2924407 (OP)
you cant do high quality work with the guard on, simple as.

>>2935623
Yes you can, and an angle grinder isn't a precision tool.
Fuck, you can't even speak in complete sentences

>>2935630
>an angle grinder isn't a precision tool.
It can be. If you take the guard off.

>>2924407 (OP)
>ur not a MAN if you don't HURT YOURSELF ON PURPOSE
Go drink some black rifle coffee to wash down your liver king branded suplements and use some dude wipes you rudderless failure of a man.

>>2935634
No it's not, kill yourself
If the guard stops you from doing a half assed job, you're the issue v me you need to go back to your dead end retail job because you're nothing but a liability

>>2935630
>an angle grinder isn't a precision tool
skill issue
(1/2)

>>2935630
>>2935674
(2/2)
close enough for govt work

>>2935675
>>2935674
You can do that basic bitch cut with a guard on you dumb fuck

Also stop acting like that's a milling machine cut

>>2935675
This anon gets it.

>>2935677
>Also stop acting like that's a milling machine cut

What about a lower die for a press brake cut solely with an angle grinder and cutoff wheel?

How about some cross-hatching for some vise jaws cut into some tool steel with an angle grinder and cut-off wheels?

Or some slides cut for a wood splitter wedge cut purely with an angle grinder and cutoff wheel...

You can get pretty damn surgical with one if you know what you're doing.

>>2935674
>>2935675
>>2935702
>>2935705
>>2935707
>Shit that you can do no problem with the guard on

>>2935709
>>Shit that you can do no problem with the guard on
Do it then and post some pics. Seems like anyone that has done this shit in real life doesn't have any problem running without the guard. Maybe you just suck?

>>2924495
Those and the same era Makitas are justly famous, but for most use a 6" (because they take 6" cutting disks and of course smaller attachements) is optimal.

My pipeliner welding instructors both favored 6" Metabos but after finally killing mine my 6" Makita is a worthy replacement.

>>2925379
>guard contributes to such scenarios.

Except they don't unless the operator is too stupid to use one. What is your specific scenario for that fantasy? How do you foul a grinder guard presuming you studied your workpiece instead of just thoughtlessly grinding?

I've welded for decades, have many grinders and the only way I'd run guardless is using flap discs (whose composite bodies don't shatter though I tried for giggles) or cup wire brushes which extend from the guard.

>>2925453
NAME some examples, faggot.

Fitting for welders includes work so cramped the operator needs one or two mirrors to see their work because it's not facing them.
A major example is welding boiler tubes for power plants, industry and shipyard work.

Fitting is more demanding than almost anything you will ever do with a grinder outside welding and fab.

>>2925559
I've cut the cab bolts off an old F350 with fiber-reinforced Dremel cutting disks. That was all that would fit but despite using about 15 disks wasn't difficult, just tedious.

My Milwaukee 5196 would slay them effortlessly but was too large to fit.

>>2927962
Weldors normally use gloves when running an angle grinder.
You're clearly not one.

I use TIG gloves even for stick for comfort and there is zero tangling risk. Everything in the welding environment is best presumed hot, sharp and determined to wound weldors.

>>2928745
6" is ideal for increase edge speed and depth with a grinder body sized the same as a 4-1/2". Every smaller disc fits.

I also modded my 4-1/2" guards to take 6" cutting discs which was well worth it.

>>2928831
>or just cut something that pinchs the wheel so you have break it free

The usual pro way to swap attachments is to palm the disc with one gloved hand, hold the locking button with the other then remove and install the desired attachment. I keep Channellocks to unscrew grinder nuts in the event a disk broke off cleanly.

>>2929988
Nice score. I maintained a grinder fleet for our local welding program and bought a personal predecessor to that one, the "all green" style.

>>2932254
Zip discs cut allthread very cleanly while recip blades (even my beloved Diablo Auto Dismantling) flex and flop under load.

Sparks do not matter in my welding area which is why it's in my all-steel building with concrete slab. Sparks don't mean shit if ya wear gloves and a face shield.

For cutting allthread I run a nut out from to mark the cut which protects threads (and works with saws too like my portabands) then place zip disc parallel to the outboard side of the nut. When done I remove the nut to remove any burrs. Also works with expanding concrete anchors.

>>2924407 (OP)
Legit case for no guard (drill and tap steel chuck base to 1/2"-13tpi to fit US standard spindles).

Beats carrying a die grinder along with an angle grinder. I use many flap wheels because they're so handy.

Sling is handy for salvage yard runs. One Diablo Auto Dismantling blade and one charged battery is enough to decapitate a Silverado to retrieve the tasty 6.0 and 5.3 contents.

>>2935675
Why are you measuring with a scribing tool?

>>2935741
No pics of your amazing grinder work then? Lol. Figures.

>>2935779
As if you made that factory-produced vise jaw.

>>2935675
Now measure the other side retard, and prove the cut isn't skewed

>>2935803
Thank you for admitting my grinder handiwork looks like factory produced goodness. Really brings a smile to my face.

I even have multiple milling machines at my disposal, but choose to use the cut-off wheel in an angle grinder for some of these projects because of the speed at which you can remove material, and not having to clean up a pile of chips in the shop afterwards.

lol

>>2935743
You should reposition that sling off the trigger.
Those safteys are easy to bump

>>2935841
lol pussie

>>2935867
Retard

>>2935822
That's not even me, I been off for days.
My entire argument is that you can do that shit with the guard on, you've proven nothing other than your inability to in2 arguments
>Hurr I can grind things so that means you can't use a guard
What the fuck are you even trying to debate here? This shit show I came back to is worse than any strawman a Jew could come up with

>>2935887
That's cute, you think I care about your opinion on using a guard. You specifically said a grinder wasn't a precision tool. The other anon posting pics and I proved you were wrong. Now you're big mad.

Yeah I could do the same stuff with a guard, but it would be more awkward and annoying. You couldn't do the things I do with OR without a guard, so you probably better keep on using one since you're still a noob.

Go ahead and post up some of your grinding work so we can check it out and give you some pointers.

I'll throw up another pic from today. Turn signal cam from a 73 F750 had the plastic pegs for the detents broken off. Whipped this bad-boy up using a cut-off wheel on a grinder and a drill in less time than it would take me to drive to town to have some parts monkey tell me they don't have a part in stock and it will be a week before it gets here...

What have you built lately?

>>2928939
can't fault a man for sticking to his beliefs.

>>2935979
I said stop adding like it is, I didn't say you can't use it as one. I was making fun of you for using calipers
This entire argument is about you saying a guard prevent you frombl doing shit, and it doesn't.

>>2936010
You can and should.
If a male cannot be reasoned with he's a boy, not a man.
A man is capable of listening to others arguments and improving himself. Anyone that just shuts the other person out and fabricates a strawman to argue against is unrespectable

>>2936029
>everyone who uses safety glasses is a pussy
and
>I lost an eye while grinding with no safety glasses
are not mutually exclusive statements. what does one have to do with the other? he lost an eye, aye, but he ain't no pussy so no glasses.

>>2928552
Niger human flesh and bones is nothing to an angle grinder

>>2936032
Maiming yourself isn't tough, it's a mental illness

>>2936041
very transphobic of you

>>2936032
>Fake masculinity masquerading as "toughness"

>>2936045
Last I checked plastic surgery isn't "maiming."

>>2936048
tattoos and piercings are maiming

>>2936028
>I said stop adding like it is, I didn't say you can't use it as one. I was making fun of you for using calipers
>This entire argument is about you saying a guard prevent you frombl doing shit, and it doesn't.
Adding like it is? Frombl? Are you having a stroke? You seem agitated.

Hint, I'm not the anon that had the picture of the calipers up. But I am the one that posted up the other pictures of a grinder being used for precision work. One of which another anon was so amazed by, that I was accused of posting a picture of a factory cut jaw for a vise. In fact made it myself out of a bar of tool steel, some layout fluid and scribe lines, and an angle grinder and cutoff wheel (guard removed of course). Then when I responded to said anon you got all pissy pants like you own the thread or something? Really bizarre behavior. Please post some pics of your amazing fab work for the class to see the wonderful stuff you've been doing with the guard on. Back up your argument with some proof of your work.

>>2936059
It's Sunday morning, shouldn't you be in church?

Disabling the safety doesn't automatically invite injury. If you take your seatbelt off while driving, you are not suddenly more likely to crash. This analogy is especially apt because seatbelts do cause a certain number of deaths -- that's just the nature of life: things designed to keep us safe sometimes result in our harm.
Relying on the tool to keep you safe is not very wise; the tool doesn't care about you. Pay attention, respect the tool's power, change your *behavior* to mitigate risks. That's how you don't get injured.

>>2935979
>You specifically said a grinder wasn't a precision tool. The other anon posting pics and I proved you were wrong
so if someone is able to make a straight cut with a crudely sharpened dildo, it makes it a precision tool? by your logic it literally is. don't try to argue only if you're unable to make a logical argument.
it still isn't a precision tool and you haven't proven anything other than being a moron who doesn't use the proper tool for the job. just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. the guard doesn't get in the way of anything (other than maybe circular cuts, if you absolutely have to use a grinder for some reason) unless you're a total retard, which is already self-evident by the wilingness of not using a guard alone

>>2936072
Post up some evidence of you doing anything at all with a grinder. I'll wait. Until then, opinion discarded.

>>2936074
Not who you're arguing with, but why *not* have a guard on that? I don't know if they even make one that'd fit at the end of the shaft, but wouldn't it be better and nicer to just have it enclosed on the non-working side? Less sparks, less likely to nick anything else (everyone makes mistakes), etc.

As an aside, what were you doing with that long of an extension?

>>2936074
>gets made made fun of for being too dumb to make a logical argument
>attempts to bring it down to some kind of reddit avatarfagging circlejerk
lmao you can't make this shit up. your personal life and anectodes are irrelevant to the argument. also, you generally don't need a guard with a long extension like this, just like you don't need one using a die grinder, so not sure what point you're trying to make with it

>>2936089
>As an aside, what were you doing with that long of an extension
probably had to cut something that was deep in a recess or something like that.

>>2935841
I fondled the thing thoroughly to check while installing the sling, and the webbing doesn't bother the lock nor attempt to pull the trigger since it pulls upward more than not. This rig has many salvage yard slayings to its credit. I'd be glad if I'd gotten it to malfunction since I'd simply correct it.

Blades go in my salvage yard tool bucket or bag, or get taped to the sling before I roll out. Time = loot so the faster I can slay the greater margin I have before closing. Self and bro are at the door when they open and bring food (and frozen Gatorade bottles of water in summer)

Anything not pulled by end of day is fair game for someone else the next. A 60V battery takes off truck noses with power to spare and if I don't accidentally bend the blade one will sever the nose and frame so the drivetrain can roll forward (still supported by the torsion bars on Silverados but there's no need to detach those). My DCF 900B isn't the current most powerful cordless impact but using the same batteries I've found nothing so far it won't break loose.

Were I at home I'd torch cut the torsion bars then drag the frame with drivetrain clear, but the salvage yard crew will forklift out drivetrains after we cut out seat belts to make the traditional disposable lifting sling.

>>2935979
As a (smaller F100/250/350 self-built) Dentside owner with a lathe and mill I saved that pic since those cams get brittle.

What bed do you run on that F750? They make delightful wrecker/crane trucks and rollbacks.

>>2936063
Since you like fab, check out the adzes and picks on firefighter's Halligan and Pro Bar tools. Firefighters fab their own when they want a custom feature.

The best are single piece and they are the pry bar of the gods. The adze is handy for tapping underneath machine tool bases etc then rotating to insert lifting wedges then cribbing. I bought a Council which is a beast (the fork is handy for salvage yard suspension raep) but my 6ft spud bar will grow a wider adze shortly.

Self and bro do all our own rigging often saving more than our auction buys cost. Once a baseis raised we drill any new holes needed then bolt the outrigger dolly shown in pic. Then (because many auctioneers require show insurance to allow vehicles in buildings) we run winch cable and snatch blocks as required to pull out loot out the door and onto the trailer.

This works with much heavier loads than the surface grinder shown (happy bro gave 150 bucks for it to get the mag chuck but the grinder functions as it should) of any size base. We have two more channels and have bridged them for some moves. The casters are bolted so we can slide the channels beneath a base, drop allthread down through base and dolly, then snug the stack tight. I also use scaffolding casters which are much heavier duty for other dollies including my air compressors and 15HP rotary phase converter. Putting everything on wheels makes shop cleaning and reconfig easier.

>>2936141
>at the door when they open and bring food (and frozen Gatorade bottles of water in summer)

Is this how you get them to let you pick through stuff? Or how does it work? I'd love to go cut up some cars but no clue how to get started

>>2936122
no one has a problem with taking the guard off sometimes, when you don't have enough clearance, or you suddenly need those few extra milimeters of depth and it's not worth to bring out a different tool, but a lot of morons act as if the guard makes every ordinary cut difficult and don't use it at all, making a grinder orders of magnitude more dangerous for absolutely no meaningful benefit, which is the epitome of retardation.

>>2936122
>>2936152
wrong quote

>>2936089
>Not who you're arguing with, but why *not* have a guard on that? I don't know if they even make one that'd fit at the end of the shaft, but wouldn't it be better and nicer to just have it enclosed on the non-working side? Less sparks, less likely to nick anything else (everyone makes mistakes), etc.
>As an aside, what were you doing with that long of an extension?

That's where you're wrong kiddo. I don't make mistakes. If memory serves correct I was grinding some baffle plate welds out of a muffler so I could rebuild it, or something along those lines.


>lmao you can't make this shit up. your personal life and anectodes are irrelevant to the argument. also, you generally don't need a guard with a long extension like this, just like you don't need one using a die grinder, so not sure what point you're trying to make with it

Still no evidence you even know how to use a grinder huh? Typical. Someone running their mouth with no way to back it up. You don't even deserve a (You).

>>2936144
>As a (smaller F100/250/350 self-built) Dentside owner with a lathe and mill I saved that pic since those cams get brittle.
>What bed do you run on that F750? They make delightful wrecker/crane trucks and rollbacks.

Yeah the turn signal cams I had on hand for the pickups were not the same as the truck cam for some reason. That's why I decided to fix it. Here's another pic showing how the tabs line up with those depressions in the plastic. I folded them up at a 90 degree angle and then after installing it folded them over into those depressions to lock it on nicely. I did have to drill a hole in the sheet metal to allow me to put that one way locking washer in place I don't know if the auto-return still works on the signal, as I have the truck up on a jack right now and the right tire off to access the power steering pump that was leaking but as long as it clicks into and stays in the detents without being all mushy I don't care.

This ol girl has a gravel box on it. It's been sitting for many years since we used it last and I'm fixing it up real nice so I can start using it to haul gravel from our pit onto my farm roads.

>>2936144
>They make delightful wrecker/crane trucks and rollbacks

Installed pic of turn signal cam. I have a 95 F-800 as my crane truck. It's actually a retired lineman digger derrick truck. crane, bucket, and auger plus a shit ton of boxes for a service truck...

>>2936144
>>2936146

I'll check out those adzes and picks. I've got a shit-ton of spud bars and basically buy any and all that are cheap that I run across... I score them all the time for around $15 a pop. I know you're the guy with the shipping container shop that work on vintage motorcycles and collects machine tools. I'm a farmer/rancher that fabs a lot and collects machine tools. You did turn me onto those scaffolding casters and I bought a pretty sizeable lot of them off e-bay. I need to get some under a table in my garage that has an atlas and craftsman lathe on it. Would be handy to wheel it outside and blow off the dust from time to time.

Pic of my service/crane truck.

>>2927963
>>2936063
>A single autocorrect means I'm having a stroke, mad, and you somehow win
I'm not even reading your nonsense at this point

You're completely off topic
>I can use a grinder
That's not a rebuttal to "you can do it with a guard"

>>2924407 (OP)
This advice brought to you by Eddie three fingers.

>>2936566
Nobody cares what you think. You obviously don't even know how to use a grinder. Why would anyone that does know how to use a grinder give a shit about your opinion?

>>2936630
>Durr I'm unsafe and proud so you must not know what you're doing hurr

>>2936650
>>Durr I'm unsafe and proud so you must not know what you're doing hurr
You have provided zero evidence proving otherwise.

>>2936149
We use a self-service yard which are fairly common.

https://www.pullapart.com/

Go to one and look around.

>>2936713
Nothing you've done requires removing the guard and offhand handle. And in fact is worse without them.

Unless you're a masochist who likes getting sparks blasted into your face.

>>2924417
Based, I like the crusts. Usually with just a bit of really well cooked cheese and the slightest dab of dry sauce. They are so chewy and good.

what if i exclusively use it drunk

>>2937010
>what if i exclusively use it drunk
As god intended.

>>2937010
Take four cyclobenazprine with each drink. You can trust me, I used to work for the government.

>>2935743
What do you use the flap wheel for in the salvage yard?

>>2924407 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XZuSATp21o
>vlad demonstrates improving grinding wheel design to promote worker productivity on the collective

>>2938188
his files must be sharo and productive

>hurr durr i am so manly because i disregard safety precautions
i bet you do not use knee protection or steel toe caps

>>2936067
How about you respect the guard's power to prevent/mitigate injury. Its a tool also.

>>2938219
Haven't you heard? Real men have less than 10 toes!
I'm definitely not coping with my mistake/loss via toxic masculinity, why do you ask?

>>2924848
Nothing is 100-percent safe.

>>2924898
^This and they happen well before that in many cases. I use G.I. knee pads most of the time which are cheap at yard sales (I live near a base) and work well.

>>2938238
>toxic masculinity

>>2940260
Come on now, say what you will about a lot of stuff, but are you really going to say people don't do shitbrained and toxic things because it feeds a warped sense of masculinity in them? (Yes, people do that for femininity too, but not with angle grinders.)

>>2936063
>Hint, I'm not the anon that had the picture of the calipers up. But I am the one that posted up the other pictures of a grinder being used for precision work
I never said it can't be used for precision, and unless you did the threads with a grinder, that's still not precision

Precision means out can dial it in to the thousands or the thousandths at least

Nice looking =/= precision

>>2940292
>I never said it can't be used for precision, and unless you did the threads with a grinder, that's still not precision
>Precision means out can dial it in to the thousands or the thousandths at least
>Nice looking =/= precision

>>2935630
>an angle grinder isn't a precision tool.

WTF. You're backpedaling hard there son...

Precision is making something exactly as precise as it needs to be for that particular application. Some things need ten thousandths of precision. Some things need tenths of precision. Just because you don't comprehend tolerances doesn't mean the rest of us don't.

>>2940298
>Precision is making something exactly as precise as it needs to be
No, it's making it as nice as it can be.

I'm having trouble taking you seriously, I think you're arguing for the sake of arguing.

I originally was ripping on him for moving it like he was a human Bridgeport, which is clown shit
No shit you can carve a rough shape of a non precise bracket, the entire point of the tool is rough cutting.

Next you'll argue with me about an axe vs compound mitere saw

I'm not sticking around longer then another day or so

>>2940292
>Nice looking =/= precision
>>2940299
>No, it's making it as nice as it can be.

Whew lads! You just can't even keep your own story straight can you?

>>2940299
>I'm not sticking around longer then another day or so

you can go ahead and fuck off now if you want. No one will miss you.

>>2940303
ESL retard

>>2928831
>taught me how to notch a cutting wheel

Thats called being taught how to be retarded.

>>2924407 (OP)
How's the seeker going doug?

Captcha: NH0H0

I got bitten by the grinder 20 days ago, now I cant feel my index finger
Fuck grinders

>>2940319
>ESL retard
Not an argument.

>>2940362
Was the guard on?
How did it happen?

>>2940362
these are the hands of retards who don't wear gloves or use the guard on the grinder

>>2940380
Can't argue with someone that can't read, what you posted isn't an argument

I'm gonna keep doing it and I'm gonna keep not getting hurt and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>2940493
>I'm gonna keep not getting hurt
Until you do.

>>2940495
Well shit, I guess I better stop using tools entirely then because they seem safe... until they're not.
Same with driving, and climbing ladders, and countless other mundane activities that I'm not going to get hurt doing... until I do.

What level of risk is acceptable to you? I genuinely want to know. Do you drive? Do you use ladders? Or stairs for that matter?
All of these activities are avoidable risks.

>>2940493
Look I work in an ER so keep me getting a paycheck, but why are you going to use it in the least safe way possible? Guard wouldn't even make a difference here because you're holding it with the disc and all the sparks facing your other gloveless hand. Why not just even cut from the other side?

>>2940502
>let it assblast your face with sparks and grit as it tires to lunge forward out of your hand
theres no room for subhuman south paws in the ethnostate

>>2940383
The guard wasn't on. I was cutting rusted bolts on an exhaust manifold. It was in a very tight and uncomfortable position and I hit something and the grinder kicked back into my hand
>>2940384
Why dont you jump in a puddle of water and drown

>>2940504
You know you can stand at a 90 degree offset out of the path of the grinder when you're cutting right? And you're skilled enough to control it so it won't kick back anyway right?

Nevermind, don't answer, just fuck off back to /pol/.

>>2940502
You are clueless if you think it's safer to cut it the other way 'round

>>2940502
it's about pretending you're tough and manly anon, you wouldn't get it as you're not insecure enough

>>2940497
The biggest risk factor for injury with power tools is being overconfident. It's not the newbies who are scared of the tools getting the worst injuries, it's the pros who work 10 hours a day with them.

>>2940582
Yeah that mostly makes sense -- with the caveat that of course there are obvious counterexamples. My own experience has been that I get hurt a lot less now that I'm in this full-time than when I was new and a part-timer.

In general I am seeking the optimal amount of confidence and caution -- which ideally come from confidence and humility. Where I land in this regard is that I can safely operate this tool with no guard in almost all scenarios. I'm not ignorant of the risks nor am I cavalier about safety. I wear my PPE (except gloves -- the sparks are harmless), I make sure I have control of the tool, an appropriate stance, and proper positioning of the work and the tool so as to prevent most kickbacks or whatever from sending something sharp through my flesh in the event that things go awry.

>>2924407 (OP)
I really wish I wasn't one. Fuck my genetics.

>>2940502
>why are you going to use it in the least safe way possible? Guard wouldn't even make a difference here because you're holding it with the disc and all the sparks facing your other gloveless hand. Why not just even cut from the other side?p

Tell me you've never used an angle grinder without telling me...

>>2940298
>Precision is making something exactly as precise as it needs to be for that particular application
no, it's not and you're absolutely fucking retarded. smashing a wall with a sledgehammer is exactly as precise as it needs to be for that particular application too. and I don't think you even know what backpedalling means, you're just parroting a word you saw on 4chan

>>2940507
>The guard wasn't on
every fucking time and there still are mumbling retards like OP with the same old bullshit
>>2940362
>Fuck grinders
it's not the fault of the tool that you were using it improperly and not even fully assembled

>>2936032
We're really just down to the age-old argument of "is it bravery, or stupidity?"
Obviously, what with how excessively prideful people are, they'd never ascribe to the latter.

>2940740
>2940742
>2940744
imagine squealing into the void of an eastern kazak reed intertwining imageboard because somebody somewhere outside of your sphere of existence is doing something of their own fruition
then consider aforementioned squealing is about a small piece of stamped sheet metal
(you) should definitely think about going out and touching grass as the saying goes

>>2940497
>Well shit, I guess I better stop using tools entirely then because they seem safe... until they're not.
you can't even draw a proper comparison and trying to equate dangerous misuse of a tool with simply simply using tools, or performing mundate activities, in a proper way. they don't just seem safe, they are safe due to being designed to be safe, as long as they're used properly and the user isn't completely retarded, and e.g. doesn't decide to remove one of their parts responsible for making them safe, like a guard, for no valid reason

>>2940751
Show me the dangerous misuse, retard -- I get my work done and I don't get hurt.
If ladder manufacturers started adding outriggers to all their ladders (to cover their own asses, of course), would you similarly cry about those foolish souls who elect not to use them? Would they be engaging in dangerous misuse of their ladders?

>>2940799
Man, this^ troll needs to get a life.

>>2940845
>glasshouseawardoftheyeargoesto.jpg

>>2940740
>smashing a wall with a sledgehammer is exactly as precise as it needs to be for that particular application too.

If you're demoing the wall then yes that is correct. If you're nailing down trim, then no you fucked it up, just like you fuck up everything you retard.

>>2924407 (OP)
Reminder that you're not a man if you care what fags on 4chan think.

>>2924497
Chappie?

lol

>>2941043
Now explain why doing this with a guard is somehow magically worse?

>>2924497
>>2941021
Starring Die Antwoord.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Uee_mcxvrw

>>2941052
It's not, but doing it with a guard isn't somehow magically better either.

>>2941043
this doesn't look like a heavy job

>>2941060
>Not throwing debris all over
>If it kicks better chance of the disc not hitting something soft

Also, there is literally a way better tool for what you're doing.

thirdie here. I'm a computer guy, so I'm gay and lazy by default.
I've used a circular saw multiple times to cut some tree branches... that's as far as I'd go when it comes to dangerous shit.
I'm scared shitless of angular grinders. I have like 3, but I've never used any of them.

>>2941084
>for those times when wacking shit with your purse is just too much

>>2941089
>My masculinity is so fragile that I'll refuse to use an objectively better tool for the job because I think it makes me look weak!

>294109four
>dinky little wheel
>requires tool to replace disc
>low power
>poor flush cutting ability
thats one step up from a dremel tool and (you)ve obviously never cut anything with an abrasive tool
and yes i do personally own a 4" sioux/snappy 1hp pneumatic dedicated cutoff tool

>>2924982
What about storming into battle and afterwards the whole squad took turns running a train on your grandma's asshole and face. Is that honorable?

>>2941084
What do you think happens when the tool kicks? What direction does it go?
Have you considered that you can just not have anything soft in that space as shown in the video?

>>2941155
That's the problem with an angle grinder, if you slip with it it could go anywhere.

>>2941305
I use both hands on any grinder large or small, because the improved control is like stick welding using both hands being much more precise.

>>2940799
>something isn't significantly more dangerous because I haven't got hurt yet
jesus fucking christ, you're even more retarded than I thought. ladder isn't dangerous by itself, so comparing it to a grinder is incredibly stupid by itself, because a ladder intrinsically isn't a dangerous flesh eating tool prone to kickback and it's not like someone is adding some new excesive safety features to it, not to mention the comparison doesn't even makes sense, a proper parallel would be something like removing the chain that prevents the sides from overextending and making the ladder split apart on the ground, just because it allows more setup options or some stupid shit like that, and then claiming it's totally safe, because it hasn't collapsed yet

>>2940865
no it isn't and no sane person would call smashing a wall with a sledgehammer precision work

>>2941122
weird unrelated personal anectode, but ok

>>2924407 (OP)
I'll be more then happy to call my self a little girl and keep the guard on my grinder.
Has a brand new cutting disk brake and if not for the guard and my mask i would be blind and fucked up worse then the few stitches i got in my hand. So i'll be more then glad to call my self a little girl.

>>2932648
ya i know that all to well i truly feel his pain.. thats why i don't screw around i keep the guard on and use new disks.. Even tho a new disk still exploded and took out my hand thankfully it did not get to my face thanks to the guard and the mask i had on.. Required 8 stitches and 35 mins of pulling tiny little metal pieces out of my arm and hand. 22 years later im still picking metal splinters out of my hand and arm from that incident. I am truly glad to here he is ok and no fingers were lost..

>>2927894
I would like to bash your skull with a 400g hammer and make you commensureately retarded to the posts you make you subhuman retard niggerfaggot

>>2941366
I don't think you grasp how to assess risk for yourself.
Somehow you've outsourced all of your thinking to the design of tool manufacturers who don't give a shit about you.

>>2941368
It's as precise as it needs to be for the job. What don't you get about this? There isn't a platonic Precision.

I keep it on because you can backhand grip the handle with your left.

>>2941390
>I would like to bash your skull with a 400g hammer
Not precise enough according to: >>2940740

Try harder larper.

T. Some guy that actually fabricates and repairs things and doesn't just larp on the diy forums and seethe about Crescent wrenches constantly.

>>2941402
>It's as precise as it needs to be for the job. What don't you get about this? There isn't a platonic Precision.

He doesn't get it because he has never done anything productive in his life.