Thread 2929785

>legos for manchilds
Yeah i get it when the tradies are in a hurry to scam the next person but if you are doing something for yourself. Do you have zero self-respect to learn even the basic woodworking and jointery skills? I bet you used osb or drywalls too.

>>2929785 (OP)
Senõr, muy no see el issue

i don't understand why people think cutting large joints into wood makes it weaker
the stuff you cut off was filled with the mating wood

>>2929785 (OP)
>Do you have zero self-respect to learn even the basic woodworking and jointery skills? I bet you used osb or drywalls too.

>>2929785 (OP)
Codes literally require that shit dude. You're not allowed to not do it

>>2929815
If you're not in city limits you can just build a house not to code and not get insurance. Easy.

>>2929816
>I INSIST on being retarded

>>2929830
I want a real house, not a lega jackass pile of twigs hooked together with screws. A house should be made of only wood, 100% wood, or it's basically communist.

>>2929833
>aaaa a joist hanger I’m going insane
I’d love to see you spew your useless quixotic ramblings about mortise and tenon joinery to a crew of Guatemalans
>que
lmao

>>2929815
/thread

>>2929809
>i don't understand why cutting across the fibers in a composite structure weakens it

Yeah thanks for letting us know you're retarded.

>>2929833
>hooked together with screws
that would be amazing, but stick houses are usually built with nails.

>>2929833
Are you referring to the Asian temples that are literally 100 percent wood?

Do slow boards like /diy/ really need this low effort underageb& troll thread nonsense? This isn't the way to make small boards more active.

>>2929893
>This isn't the way to make small boards more active
its the opposite in my opinion. this shit just slides slow effort threads off into the archive which deincentives participation if you think your shit will disappear in exchange for turds like this thread. even the stupid questions thread gets rage poasts instead of any answers. so many unreplied to posts.
newfaggots dont use the catalog and it shows

>>2929878
Simple. Just makes cuts that go with the grain.
>>2929903
Unironically Reddit is far superior for diy of all types

>>2929833
timber frame

>>2929833
>A house should be made of only wood, 100% wood, or it's basically communist.
What about wooden doors?

>>2929936
Wood doors should be made out of cardboard and air.

>>2929936
>What about wooden doors?
I'm not building a gas chamber.

As someone who actually does timber framing for a living, the amount of money, time and effort is really not worth it unless you absolutely need the look.
Cutting dovetails by hand is tedious as hell and an Arunda dovetail jig is $3000
If you do regular square joints you still need a couple $200 chisels and tons of time

Pre-fab trusses have a lot of advantages compared to the timber-frame bents + purlins setup as well
>any engineer can quickly approve a design
>can do giant clear spans without any middle support
>can fly them yourself with a rope + ladder, or spend an hour or less of crane time to get them all up there
>timber-frame bents need at least 2 well trained dudes, a hefty crane and way more crane time

>>2930162
>can fly them yourself
The only good thing about prefab
You're a lazy amerislob, anyone with some base respect for themselves and their job is ashamed of having to work with these

The point of Lego is to show basic engineering and clever usage of parts. Making nippon wood puzzles is just autism

>>2930245
This. Amerifatistan houses fall over after 2 to 5 years, then rot. German houses last 20,000,0000 years

>>2929833
>Lego
>pile of twigs hooked together with screws

Lego pieces are literally called BRICKS and are arranged and assembled using common brick/masonry block principles with the exception of not using mortar.
In spite of that lack of mortar they still don't need screws or anything analogous to separate fasteners to stay assembled.

If that comparison wasn't retarded enough, there *are* construction toys that emulate typical wood framed construction principles, like Lincoln Logs and Tinkertoys...and in the case of the latter its relatively small and spindly elements have already caused it to become THE go-to reference for cheap, toy-like, barely adequate wooden structural framing.

Dumb MFer isn't even up to speed on the construction principles and knowledge documented in "The Three Little Pigs".

>>2930245
I regularly lift and move timbers that weigh 150-300 lbs, and actually work in the trade as opposed to most of the /diy/ larpers
if you really think you can raise a timber frame house by yourself in less than 2 years start to finish then I invite you to try it, post pics so we can laugh

>>2930151
your racist hvac guy frowns upon you.
>>2929954
Air is too expensive, we'll have to settle for MDF

>>2929785 (OP)
ESL

>>2929833
Nah, reinforced concrete. The only reason to use wood is because its cheap. If money were not issure, there wouldn't be a single piece of wood in my house.

>>2929809
Fighting building codes. You'll have some minimum size to maintain, and for the sake of cost, you didn't buy the next size up in material.

>>2929809
Because you are low iq, holy shit

>>2930451
So you're prouder of lifting than your trade, that says a lot my amerifriend

>>2929785 (OP)
I suspect this method of joining timber has a known and proven strength and good repeatability, even when done by untrained fuckwits. Meanwhile most joining methods take the cross section of the lumber way down, effectively reducing it's strength alot. To further complicate matters it will have a profound impact where in your structure which style of joint is use and wether the side is under tension or compression.
Funny metal sheets and screws don't care.
So I'd guess if youre building somewhere where construction is regulated this will at least avoid a whole lot of regulation associated work.

>>2929809
LMAO retard. When you rope please use one continous rope and dont just expect the ends of two ropes to fuse when you bring them into contact.

>>2930525
do ropes work in compression

Building a house with wood instead of bricks or stone.
Kek, faggots.

>>2931007
Wood framing will last 10,000+ years
Stone or bricks will fall apart after 10
In America we build are houses to last forever unlike communist eurocucks

>>2930528
compressing tranny carotid

>>2930471
>or it's basically communist
way to out yourself.

>>2931161
Out as what. If I pay top dollar, I expect top quality. Wood ain't it

>>2931176
Despite the fact that thing is an abomination, it is 100% chock full of a variety of wood species of exquisite quality. If you really think living in 100% concrete and glass is "top dollar" you are literally a communist. Nobody else thinks that's anything great.

>>2931176
anon if you want to live in a zoo then go hop in the lion cage

>>2931505
I'll repeat it again so you retards can understand: the only reasons to use wood are because its cheap and abundant. If I am paying millions of dollars for a house (which homes are frequently becoming in the US), why would I want it to be made of a fundamentally cheap material?

The euroids get a lot wrong, but they understand that homes shouldn't be made of wood

>>2931789
> The euroids get a lot wrong, but they understand that homes shouldn't be made of wood
Europoor here, achually, you can make homes out of wood. And many of us do.
However, we tend to do it properly and not with some stupid ass sticks. 2 by 4? That’s like 5 x 10 cm? Lmao. The bed I built for my kids is made from more massive wood than this.

>>2931823
Post bed.

>>2931014
rock falling apart?
my granite walls are a little more than 100 years old and dont give a single fuck on anything that happened since

>>2929833
there are building codes that allow for proper timber framing, but you aren't allowed that with home hardware store bought 2x4 and regular dimensional pine, you need mass timber for that, and even then a lot of building codes require reinforcement with metal plates and screws.

>>2931976
>building codes require reinforcement with metal plates and screws
this is mostly the result of simpsonstrongtie buying a lot of blowies for kommiefornian politicians

>>2931981
I won't argue with that, it's true. building codes should not be enforced the way they are, they should set minimum standards, not be so rigid on specific things being the ONLY way to do things. This is why a lot of builders for more elite clients build to code first, pass inspection, then go back and build it the way the client wanted in the first place.

>>2931981
It's the result of looking at what's left standing in hurricane zones and tornado alley.

Ever seen what modern "code compliant" decks look like nowadays?
Meanwhile you go walk on 30 year old decks with 1/3rd of the wood as whats mandatory today and its perfectly sturdy

fucking unbelievable

>>2929785 (OP)
If you think that's legos for manchilds, just wait until you see ICF block.
>Great for the contractor, makes it easier and faster to build than formed concrete
>Built in crack points every 6 inches at the plastic webbing instead of solid concrete
>Concrete will be pitted to fuck and not flow underneath window sills, but the homeowner will never find out because its all behind the insulation.