What's the most practical tiny house design?

>>2930797 (OP)

Just build a normal small house
Why are people always so extreme

>>2930823
This guy's right. Although they are kind shitty, you can't really go any smaller without it starting to have real impacts on how any normal person should live.
The sacrafices on going smaller than a trailer would slowly drive you insane.

>>2930797 (OP)
Tinyhomes are romanticized because they're small, cute, and make sense on paper, but they're completely impractical unless you're a young adult or a very old person with no material possessions.

When the hype for them first started you used to be able to build them on a trailer for like $30,000 and it was a nice little apartment. Then of course because internet losers without any real intention of building one and no reasonable way to live in one, they got hyped up to $100k RV's disguised as a house. They should be well built, well thought out, practical, but most of all, sensible. No you don't need a copper roof and cedar siding on your trailer. Oak floors shouldn't be in a compact apartment. $100,000 sheds with plumbing make no sense every way you look at it.

Then theres a problem of where do you even put the fuckin thing? You cannot just find an empty field, tow your shack there and live in it. You generally need water, sewage, and electricity. Great, how many empty 1/8th acre plots are available? There just fuckin are none.

There is no "most practical" because thats different for each climate, the inhabitants, and the location its in or will likely be in. Then on top of that it has to be on wheels even if you have no intention of ever moving it again. But if thats your definite plan, why bother building a tinyhome at all? Just built a small apartment on a slab.

>>2930841
Most tiny homes are put in laneways or backyards as an additional unit to an existing property. It sounds like you're making up stuff to be angry about.

>>2930849
>Most tiny homes are put in laneways or backyards
Thats my point: why not just build a regular building instead of buying an apartment on a trailer?

Tiny homes are just rebranded trailer homes, stop trying to reinvent the wheel and just look at an rv or manufactured home

>>2930852
because of regulations I guess

awwww look at all the helpful boomers so desperate for interaction they respond to obvious one-line question bot posts

>>2930797 (OP)
All

>>2930852
Because the number of places where that's allowed and doesn't require years of jumping through legal hoops is very limited.
https://buildgreennh.com/what-states-allow-adu/
>Navigating the intricate web of laws and regulations governing Accessory Dwelling Units (ADUs) requires an understanding of varied jurisdictional attitudes. Legislation is not uniform; it varies from state to state, and often, within the states, from city to city.

And due to mandatory setbacks, oftentimes you'll find that there's no room to (legally) build anything more on a lot that already has a house in it. Whereas you can more easily get away with parking a trailer permanently because it's technically not a building.

>>2930990
>Because the number of places where that's allowed and doesn't require years of jumping through legal hoops is very limited.
Give me a scenario where any of that shit applies to a small building on your property but a tiny house would be a legal loophole. I'm not imagining one because like your post says, if you already have a house on that property, why would you want another 400 square foot building on it where the regulations prohibit it?

>>2930841
In my particular neck of new england builders and contractors are so booked out and expensive they honestly make sense because to get a similar structure with hookups would be 4x the time and money. But thats the extreme and they generally don't make sense.

>>2931046
some localities up here to encourage development treat tiny homes legally as real homes instead of RVs but it does just depend on your laws

>>2930797 (OP)

>>2930830
that's not passing code.

>>2931071
>In my particular neck of new england builders and contractors are so booked out and expensive
Quality costs money and NE is a liberal shithole so they can charge whatever fuckin prices they want to. Similarly, I'm betting an extremely tiny percentage of people in NE willing to hire a general contractor to build a building aren't really interested in a $100k RV on their property. They want a building built, not a trailer to rent out for $500 a month.

>>2931083
So my area is very air bnb heavy with good metrics on them but barely anything get built. If I brought land to get a traditional build hooked up shack would be like 300k all in just on the sheer cost of concrete and framing crews and wait times. If I get a tiny home theres an outfit in NH that would deliver it fully furnished/insualted and elec/plumb roughed in for 110 or so and then i just rent a skid steer, dig and level a gravel pad and pay for hook ups. And it does make sense with what people pay to vacation here. But its obviously not the norm in terms of crew costs.

>>2931087
>instead of an appreciating asset with a good monthly income, I could buy a depreciating asset with low monthly income!
You've really got it figured out, don't you?

>>2931089
The land with hookups is what appreciates not the actual house which ages and goes out of styles and would need 30k in reno to get market price after holding it for 10 years. Sure I could buy some of the ratty old houses here for a similar metric and fix them up, but then I don't get multiple acres of land that will 100% appreciate as more fuckers move here.

>>2931091
>The land with hookups is what appreciates not the actual house which ages and goes out of styles
I see you're not a homeowner or land owner. Carry on

>>2931093
Your house price is almost entirely location not the actual finishes on the house, you can cope and shit but you can find your exact house 5x in cali or colorado or whatever.

>>2931094
Then explain why Empty lots do not appreciate at the rate finished lots (with a house) do.

>>2931100
They follow different principals and are different investments. If you brought a ratty 200k range house in an up and coming town and waited 5-10 years it will probably 2-3x, you can see that across a number of cities. However if you say owned 40 acres of land near a city undergoing a large boom and development, one could parcel the lots and sell them at the individual market price or get brought out by a big developer. So putting a camp on some acreage to recover some cost of it while betting on the areas long term development isn't some starry eyed bullshit.

>>2931101
cope and goalposts.

To day that if you had a lot of land and it suddenly became desireable doesn't make any and all land purchases good. A house (site built) will basically never go down in value. Land however can go down in value comparatively and stagnate to zero growth.

That is in part why some wealthy bought thousands of acres at a time because its basically locking it into a stable (but no growth) asset as a protection from bad actors. Even the wealthy know that buying a building is almost always a better return on investment than empty land. Thats proven by commercial investors buying plots of land (as you outlined) and putting buildings on them to sell or lease out.

How is it you're missing this point that you're trying to justify a depreciating asset on a stagnant asset?

>>2931076
Houses are for living, not selling.
>>2931089
>in some magical situation I dreamt, a house can be an "asset"
>>2931100
>because some third party has to commit usury selling it for more than it's worth

>>2931100
Ones that are ready to build on do

>>2931111
>I can't afford it, so its bad.
opinion discarded.

>>2930808
Kek. That's hilarious. What a *dig* on tiny house owners. Hah!

>>2930823
These things are awesome. There's a reason why there's a trailer park home neighborhood in every city in America.

>>2930841
Get a load of this kid. Theorycrafting from his NEET lifescope.
>Ya don't need running water! Just build it on a slab, ya dummy! Huehuehue

>>2930990
That's changing as we speak. Cities are changing code to accommodate (and encourage) additional dwellings on property parcels. Any way to pack more people in is a huge win for the global industrial complex.

>>2931317
Nice reading comprehension.

>>2930952
Bored boomers replying to frogposters is the only reason neo moot hasn't 404'd this board

>>2931094
that nigga bought a house in kentucky for $2,000 and now he feels all homeowner lmao

>picrel
unironically.
It makes sense. If you live in a settlement. And if you assume homo economicus.

just can't wait to one day take the tinybus to my tinyhouse where ill sit all night rubbing my tiny

just can't wait to one day take the tinybus to my tinyhouse where ill sit all night rubbing my tiny

>>2930823
Yep, static caravans are the result of about 60 years of people trying to find the most efficient use of space for something that fits on the back of a truck as possible.

Core problem is that they'll only last 10-15 years before they're completely fucked. They're common in holiday parks in the UK because they're cheap, have easy planning permission and after 10 years you'd be completely renovating a room anyway so they just sell off the old ones and replace them.

>>2931076
/sudo passcode

>>2930823
u cant tow those away with a dodge ram every time you get a complain

>>2930797 (OP)
>200sf storage building for upkeep of the lot as well as a deck or beach access-way up to 500sf
>Attics with ceiling heights below 5 feet are generally not considered part of the living area and are excluded from square footage calculations.

>>2932612
these are called trailers you stupid brit

>>2932722

>>2930797 (OP)
an older fifth wheel or RV parked under a Home Depot metal carport shed

>>2930797 (OP)
Single story brick(optional) ranch home 25 miles outside of town that has a well established foundation and decent roof for 180k.

You will regret any other purchase eventually.

Barndomeniums are popular but there is a reason banks won't finance them.

You want a single story ranch home outside of a town with a settled foundation, good roof, and just make sure none of the sewage is collapsed and you can basically fix anything else with enough sass, YouTube, and disposable income.