What up /diy/, zoomer here bought my first house and redoing what is to be my office. How cooked is this old framing? House is 1920's, weird to see this lumber is actual dimensional 2x4.

Since I'm already down to the studs, do you think I should reframe this window? Good buddies of mine worked in construction / framing and said they'd help out. Sellers left a ton of good lumber here too, so cost would be just pizza + beer for the lads.

>>2931773 (OP)
Step one, ditch the camera that takes pictures for ants.
Step two, yeah reframe the window. Seeing as it basically doesn't have a frame at all. Almost like someone just cut a hole in the wall with circular saw and threw up some 2x4 in the gaps.
Step three, look into what kind of waterproofing you have. Is there a layer between whatever is on the other side of those panels?

>>2931783
Im dumb. Whats the ppint of doing all that instead of just cutting a hole in the wall.

you should have hired a home inspector before buying it, it has structural damage and the house will collaspe and kill you within 6 months

>>2931797
Do you want the window to crack when the roof sags?

>>2931797
You need a solid header over any wall opening to support what's above it.

That old growth, full size shit is probably as strong as a full size header is today. Look how it's still perfectly straight and window is perfect. I wouldn't take anything out.

>>2931773 (OP)
>How cooked is this old framing
Looks fine to me. Your house is cladded in shiplap boards too, it hasn't gone anywhere in the last 100 years it's not going anywhere now
>do you think I should reframe this window
Are you putting a new window in? Or is it leaking water? If not, why bother? You have a metal awning too, so you're already 5 times better than most new windows.

Don't make more work for yourself, t. made more work for myself picrel (look familiar?) mine was built in 1950 though so your house is probably even stronger.

>>2931797
so you buy more lumber

>>2931773 (OP)
Carpenter here. That window was definitely added after the fact by someone who doesn't know what they are doing or just couldn't be bothered to take the siding/plaster out all the way so they didn't reframe it. It is cooked, but I see stuff like this all the time in old houses that I remodel so your house isn't going to fall down if you don't fix it but you're already down to the studs so there's no reason not to reframe it properly.

Pic related shows a few different ways to frame a window but the third picture on the right is objectively the best way and that's the way I always do it. Note the cripple studs at the bottom of the window on either side of the sill that are supporting it. The second way, same way as this picture >>2931783 is fine in most cases but it certainly doesn't hurt to add the studs on either side of the sill to support the window entirely.

It looks like in your house there is no header and someone just put blocks between the studs. Headers are usually cut out of a 4x6 beam. You can also use two 2x6s nailed together with an appropriately sized piece of plywood tacked on to bring it out to be the same width as everything else. I'm sure your friends will be able to help out with all this stuff though.

At the end of the day it will cost maybe $40 in material and a couple of hours in time to do it right and then you'll never have to worry about it, just do it anon and have fun.

>>2931797
In OP's house the load from the weight of the roof is being transferred directly onto the top of the window. In this picture >>2931783 or this picture >>2932445 the load of the roof (or whatever is above the window) is being transferred into the header (a 4x6 beam) and then down into the floor through the jack studs.

>>2931773 (OP)
I wood(pardon pun).

Use sawsall with metal blade to nice and easy cut nails from framing to exterior.

I'm thinking cut all those nails first, THEN cut framing to framing nails, because it will cut better if framing is still more or less solid than flopping around. Idea is to not rough up the exterior and leaven nicely place then nicely nail or screw to new framing.

>>2932398
You might want to fix the source of the water damage on your sill.

>>2931773 (OP)
>weird to see this lumber is actual dimensional 2x4
Changed during WW2 when they started to skimp on common goods and materials for the war effort, never went back to actual 2x4 but they still call it that
Think of all the stuff that changed during covid lockdowns (24 hr stores now close at 10pm) or after 9/11 (TSA created) that never went back to normal after the events ended, same thing with 2x4s

>>2932446
>the load from the weight of the roof is being transferred directly onto the top of the window.

not if it's on a gable end. ffs, kids these days thinking everything needs 24 inch headers

>>2932544
Old 2x4s were not planed. They were rough cut. That is harder to work with but you can still get them. 'Modern' 2x4s are called S4S. Surfaced 4 sides. They plane a quarter of an inch off the 4 sides, which also helps to reduce things like bowing and cupping. They still cut them at 2x4. They actually cost more to produce and use the same amount of timber. It had nothing to do with the war effort.

>>2932610
Based rumor destroyer

>>2932530
If you can believe it, the flashing and sealing outside is fine. Every window had to water damage on the floor right below it because the previous owner was a 90 year old lady who would leave the windows open during every thunderstorm and it would soak the inside. I had to replace so many floorboards too. There was no AC in the house when I bought it.

>>2932565
That doesn't look like a gable end in OP's picture.

>>2931773 (OP)
I'm doing the exact same thing to my house. I wish I would have left the lath up because the studs are not flush.

I'm back! We ended up reframing the wall because I am indeed putting in a new window as someone asked earlier.

We ended up putting new studs on the sides and making a new header / supporting pieces above. Also put in the electrical and new insulation.

Honestly, It was pretty fun. I wouldn't want to frame homes as a job but doing it with my buddy and having him teach me some shit was pretty cool. Next is having a mexican finish / mud the drywall after I hang it, then paint, finish carpentry, and voila.

Pic since last time someone complained about images for ants: https://files.catbox.moe/p8nk6e.png

>>2932445
I think that is basically the way we did it.

btw, what exactly qualifies you as a carpenter? Like people who frame houses, are those guys carpenters or framers? Guys who do finish carpentry like baseboards and crown moulding, I assumed those guys were carpenters.

>>2932398
Is that receptacle right next to the window for a window ac unit? if so, I should have done that shit. Mine is level with the rest of the outlets in the room, but it's a dedicated 20a line for just the ac.

>>2932916
Carpenter is a pretty catch-all term at this point. Framers are carpenters, finish carpenters are also carpenters, guys who build forms for concrete are also carpenters. Some people might say that to be a carpenter you have to know how to do all the above and them some. It's a pretty broad trade with a lot of different fields.

>>2932916
Back in the day, a couple hundred years ago, everyone was a carpenter if they did wooden construction. As the skill needed to frame buildings decreased it was broken out into a 'lower' position called a framer. People that still do it the old ways (before balloon framing, platform framing, etc.) are carpenters. People that do trim work are calling finish carpenters. People that do cabinets and build-ins are cabinetmakers.

>>2932931
I love it when people say framers are low skill. No other trade has as much responsibility as the framers who have to read plans and lay out the whole house, thinking way into the future and knowing how to do layout in a way that will make all the other trade's lives easier. Thinking framing is low skill just indicates you're a handyman retard who has never worked on a custom home before.

>>2932918
no, it's near the back door (Off camera, to the right) as a 3 way switch controlling the kitchen overhead light. I used to have a 240v outlet under one of the windows but I had it removed, because most window AC units don't need 240v anymore, and because I knew (and did) get central AC built on the existing ducting that was only a gas furnace when I bought it. I wouldn't put an outlet right next to a window like that even if I was planning on using a window shaker, because it looks like shit. All of those units have long enough cables and most windows will have an outlet beneath them anyway.

>>2931773 (OP)
>How cooked is this old framing?
Has it stood there just fine for 100 years? If so, why change it?

>>2932939
Just because something is really important doesn't mean it requires high skill to do.