This is possible the hundredth or so time I'm posting a thread like this over the course of several years. I cannot maintain a schedule due to insomnia caused at least mostly by OCD. I cannot work a 9 to 5 or A time to B time job. I already take several sleep medications. I could not medicate myself out of this problem. Are there any jobs I could work or would there be any freelance opportunities for any specific trade jobs? I could imagine going to school to learn a trade or get a degree, but the actual job seems like the hard part.

My other idea is to go back to college to study engineering. Getting the degree actually sounds like the easy part, since I legitimately enjoy studying STEM, but the job seems like the unpleasant part. Lots of abstract thinking and being unsure if I'm doing the work correctly. Something like welding or metalworking seems pretty soothing by comparison. There's also the issue of having to move around with an engineering job, moving to different states and having to do so every two or three years due to employers refusing to increase pay despite increased work experience from what I've heard.

>>2933430 (OP)
If you work for yourself you can set your schedule. But you probably need to work for someone else first to learn stuff. Or just be a shitty handyman or something whi just does real basic stuff

>>2933435
>Or just be a shitty handyman or something whi just does real basic stuff
I've thought of this idea for years, but I have no idea where to start. Being a handyman still seems pretty dumb. I think it would be better to stick to one field and get pretty good at it.

>>2933436
Thats the smart call. But ive met many people on the job who do everything. They get work, and have their regulars. Ive only been on their jobs when the electric work is too complicated for them like making sure the circuits are distributed properly and the wiring isnt mixed up and sized properly and wont blow up.

>>2933430 (OP)
>I cannot maintain a schedule due to insomnia caused at least mostly by OCD

you're a basket case who's destined for suicide. stay the fuck away from the trades you stupid loser

professional excuse maker

>>2933528
>professional excuse maker
I hate the fact that people don't view my insomnia as a legitimate excuse. I really do want to work. I've been super frustrated for the past 8 years not having been able to get a job, aside from a few occasions where I would only work one or two days a week as a dishwasher but was allowed to miss work. I COULD have a full time job if I didn't have to go by a schedule and just show up to work whenever I want, just getting in 40 hours per week. I graduated high school when I was 17, and I turned 25 last month.

It's not a laziness thing. I will actually panic if I know I have to be up by a certain time. I cannot set up an alarm clock, as that would really make me panic, so my strategy whenever I have something like a doctor's appointment come up is to go to bed really early, so that even if I slept for something like 12 hours, I would still wake up hours before the appointment, and I take around 15mg of ambien on top of the other three sleep medications I take when I usually only take 5mg of ambien.

>>2933430 (OP)
Self employment. Work when you want as much as you want. Plumber, electrician, roofer, arborist, car mechanic whatever.

>>2933547
>Plumber, electrician, roofer, arborist, car mechanic whatever.
I'm not going to be coming up with any excuses as to why I wouldn't be able to do these jobs. I just want to know which one would be best. I can't do a lot of these at night. (I am not nocturnal. I'm just randomly up during the night or during the day.) Car mechanic potentially if it were a shop where people leave their cars to be fixed, and I could work on them in the dead of night. The problem is, who the fuck would just hand me such a job? I do work as a dishwasher for my dad, but it's only once or twice per week, and I don't get paid. I live with my dad for free, though. My dad is employed by someone else. If I got paid for the work, I would lose my NEETbucks. I should've mentioned in OP that it would be ideal for such a job to be one where I get paid under the table.

Landscaping. Though you have to work around the weather.

Sounds like you need to learn an art, not a trade. You can spend whatever time you want whenever you want working on an art. Could be trade-adjacent still, woodworking or fabrication or something. But it needs to be something where at worst your time expectations are in units of days, not hours, and ideally you have final say on whether you take a project and how much it gets delayed. So you need to at least be an independent contractor, but really you want to own your own business.

Going to school is going to be an issue with inability to maintain schedule; there's plenty of online courses nowadays but obviously then you miss out on the hands-on needed for some cases.

I don't really think there's many compatible opportunities as an engineer, but someone else can weigh in on that. As far as I know, it's fairly 9-to-5.

Maybe ask /adv/ but not sure many of them have experience / want to talk about art careers.

>>2933535
Can you at least show up at 11 or 12:00?
Do you have any skills or interests in a certain trade yet?
You could learn carpentry, painting, roofing, landscape, handyman shit, powerwashing, all sorts of shit
And then create you own company and schedule jobs with flebility.

Also be sure to tell the new employeer that you cant come in until 12:00 because you have the kids. Yes lie and say you have kids so they will actually escuse you
If you had your own shop yes you could be mechanic all night

How long have you had insomnia? Maybe grounding, better diet, sunshine, healing your traumas and whatnot can heal you up. Just dont go to retard doctors and take their retard pills that fix nothing

Self employment is the nobrainer

There are also some none time relevant stuff like woodworking, car mechanic... That you could do whenever you have time.

You could combine those and work under the table for friends and family at first. They would understand your situation

In my country there are rehabilitation embloyers. That work with criminals/addicts/special ed people, they will have experiance with complicated cases and might be able to help you. Go to them tell em your situation and say that you would really apprechiate if the gave you a chance

There is remote work for stuff like informatics, or whatever. There is usualy 1or 2 meetings a week and the rest is whatever.

There is social media. Where you can do whatever.

There is online freelancing you can do whenever

You could try to get someone to make a "bet" with you: "1 month trial. If i dont work my 40hr week you dont have to pay me for the time."

Any bigger 24/7 thing might hire you

There are options...

Oh i forgor
>>2933535

>Work
>Get home
>Go to sleep
> Wake up whenever(prob 3am or smt)
>Do normal chores hobbies
>Go to work
>Be late once in a month bc sleep
>Happens

Tfw this could work

>>2933436
Its my personal believe that it doesnt matter what you do. It matterst that you do smt.
If your consistent enough even cleaning shitters can get you somewhere

>>2933912
>Tfw this could work
I've thought of this years ago. I should probably try it, but I would only do it for a job that pays somewhat well, since I receive NEETbucks, and I would lose them if I got a job and likely not be able to get them back if the job doesn't work out. The limit for money earned per month when you're on SSI is, no bullshit, $65.

I would have to be disciplined to virtually instantly start preparing for bed as soon as I get home. I would have a meal, brush my teeth, take a shower, try to relax on my computer while my hair dries, take my meds, hopefully chat with some frens, and then wait for the meds to kick in. The whole process would likely take 3 at the very least, but possibly 6 hours, from the time I get home, most likely 4 or 5 hours, since there would possibly be a few things that pop up that take up more time, so I would be going to bed at some time around 8 to 11 PM and waking up at some time around 5 to 8 AM with around 9 hours spent in bed.

The issue with this idea is that I still wouldn't have much time. By the time I take my meds, I would be super anxious thinking about having to be up for work the next day. Work itself wouldn't give me this anxiety; the thought of having to be UP on time for work would. The medication would likely help a lot with falling asleep, but I would hate to have to take more than I need to at the moment to get past the additional anxiety. The other major issue that I really want to avoid is insomnia surrounding not being able to fall back asleep. I can fall back asleep with no issue at the moment. This is something I wasn't able to do a year prior. Before this change, I was only getting around 5 or 6 hours whenever I would fall asleep. I would wake up and not be able to fall back asleep. I'm super worried that this problem would return if I got a 9 to 5 job. I want to get plenty of sleep for building muscle and keeping fat off me. This is literally my beauty sleep.