Hello everyone,

I'm looking for some information about the land parcels located in Carrizo Plain/California Valley area. I'm looking to purchase a lot or two in for a 20-year project to build up a ranch/hacienda in the area. I've done some research and understand there's no potable water, there's no ready electricity, and or general sewage etc. I've also driven out there various times either on my way to Morro Bay or to watch the superblooms, so in short, I'm well aware of the geological/meteorological aspects of the area.

>>2933509 (OP)
I've seen a few threads online already saying how the land is caustic/alkaline and how the area is full of marijuana farms/meth labs and crazy neighbors. Well, the land described as caustic was right by the lake so of course it makes sense, but there are various other parcels of land further away from the lake as to seemingly not be an issue. I also read a report from the SLO county that showed the population had grown from ~500 in 2010 to ~2500 in 2015 and expected to grow still. For a place described as desolate, unlivable, and generally a bad idea, I've seen an increasing number of developing properties on the east side of the plain as well as many along soda lake road on the west side before the mountain ranges. Many of these properties have trees that are very well alive, and various others have fencing and other structures in there. I understand some are historical sites and have been abandoned for decades, but clearly some are new and only popped up in the last 10 years. Something else I've heard is there were various marijuana grows there that eventually got busted. Well if there's no water and the land is bad, how are there superblooms and how were there many marijuana farms?

Something is not really adding up when I consider all the information available. I'd really like to hear more stories from those in this subreddit. All opinions are of course desired but I would really prefer to hear something more solid and with actual basis rather than "oh I heard from a friend who heard from a friend that the neighbors are meth heads" I don't think meth heads would be able to afford to develop 2 acres of land, but since I am not a local, I must ask those who are. So please tell me, what's really the issue in the California Valley apart from the lack of modern conveniences?

>>2933511
Water can be brought in and stored. A home could be built over time. Power can be solved by modern solar panels. What's really the issue here? Why is this land really not more settled? If it's so bad, why is it becoming increasingly settled and developed and why should I not buy it?


The land is Residental Suburban zoned, so how come I also hear stories of the county denying building permits for people? None of this is making any sense to me, and I'm just trying to understand and piece it all together. Thank you.

Look into the fucking red tape required for building in California for places they actually want development. They don't even want you out there. You will probably buy the land and they'll say sorry, no utilities, no dice.

kek...and it's all a flood plain. Land that cheap is always unbuildable

>>2933523
and as i zoom in on all the other cheap plots not in the flood plain...those aren't actual roads, just map overlays. you cant even access 90% of these places

>I don't think meth heads would be able to afford to develop 2 acres of land
Fucking lol...you didn't even make a remote attempt at any due dilligence. Enjoy your new neighbors bud

>>2933526
>first plot of land
Yeah, I unfortunately don't have much experience and I'm kind of driving blind here, thus the questions.

How the hell does anyone ever do anything in a rural area then I know that anybody can just go by and take your stuff even if there are no immediate Neighbors, So is it just so much of a bother that it's better to just buy a Suburban with mansion and live there instead? Meth heads have more ambition and audacity than regular Suburban Folk? I guess so. I think well there is some element of truth to this, this is very Breaking Badesque.

I don't understand why someone would willingly choose to live in california... there are so many other places that have adequate (or even better) lands to build a ranch on that aren't that unglodly shithole of a state.

>>2933511
>I'd really like to hear more stories from those in this subreddit.

>>2933580
It depends on the state and county. There are places in the country you can build easily...California is not that place. They require you have access to utilities, so for these plots you would need to drill a well and have a septic, which depending on the soil type could have to be a very expensive engineered system. If there is no road, access, or easement, it could be flat out impossible to build. Then you have all the requirements they put on any new build...I think they even require you to have solar panels integrated with the power company system. And you're not just doing this all yourself. You would need engineering plans and dozens of inspections. I bet it's at least 100-200 grand of boilerplate before you even spend a dime on your actual building. The lots in that are you can actually develop are probably the ones going for 50k...the cheaper ones I can 99.9% guarantee are worthless until some big jew developer comes along and buys them all up for commie blocks.

In California, it usually makes more sense to buy an old piece of shit house and fix it than build a new one. But as the other poster said, California is fucking cooked. It works if another state is your primary residence and you don't pay taxes, so you're just a rich person on "vacation". Even if your family is already established there, it makes no sense to pay those tax rates or do business there at all. You have to be a mind-raped slave to put up with that place.

>>2933523
Cool picture
Where can I view floodplain maps like your pic?

>>2933716
Every real estate website has map options for flood plains/satellite view

>>2933719
Oh, neat. Thank you.

Dude got a 20 year plan for the place and has never been there.

>>2933509 (OP)
This property is deemed unbuildable cause of flood plains, but makes me think it is doable because you can put a house on stilts and make it resistant to wind loading by reducing it's cross section.

>>2933511
> I'd really like to hear more stories from those in this subreddit.
You disgust me. Time for you to go back.

>>2933743
>you can put a house on stilts and make it resistant to wind loading by reducing it's cross section.
It works to a point, but with the severe weather we are getting the stilts need to be driven much deeper adding to the cost.

>>2933509 (OP)
don't ignore the astrological implications of your purchase

>>2933523
>>2933743
I think there's potential in lowballing a lot like these and having some cheap fun over the years, until flooding renders them permanently unusable, where you can tell everyone to fuck off. Like you won't do the op ranch idea, but a nice shack, maybe a hobby farm in the valley with offroading, or on the coast you just rock up and spend weekends on the beach.