Thread 2934666

Reminder that 95% of the bitching about HOAs comes from poors who are complaining about not being able to shit up a decent neighborhood

>>2934666 (OP)
On one hand, you're Satan. On the other, no one is forced into an HOA and the endless excuses for how they got tricked into one is the babbling of narcissists.

>>2934666 (OP)
>pay us to tell you that you can't paint your garage eggshell white, it must be off white

>>2934677
>Nooooo you're literally the devil for telling me I can't have appliances strown around my front yard, and a rusty shitbox under a tarp in the driveway nooooooo

>>2934678
>Pay us to make sure everything is white, including the people

>>2934666 (OP)
Used to do some construction and I remember helping put up a small plastic fence around a patio to keep a dog from getting out. Caught the neighbors blinds rustling, and on the way out some string bean faggot comes flying in with a minivan yelling at us how a 2' fence isn't 'code'. Dad tells him it doesn't violate any town codes and dickhead gets all flustered. In the end we had to put up another row of the cheap plastic fencing, back to back to hide the open backing. Looked worse than a single course and costs twice as much, good job HOA.

Was talking with my boomer uncle recently who feels guilty about selling his house (moved to a condo) to a guy who ended up parking an RV next to the garage. Was going on how he'd be furious if he was one of the neighbors. Keep in mind this is a peak 2000's build quality vinyl mcmansion neighborhood. Absolutely ass looking buildings with those stupid fucking islands of decorative plants. He's a white new balance wearing office worker whos idea of masculinity is mowing the lawn once a week and watching sports the rest of the time.

I really dont care about whos right or wrong about HOAs, every single person involved is either lazy, stupid, a power tripping busybody, or some combination of all three. Regardless, the world would be a better place if they all gassed themselves

>>2934666 (OP)
isn't joining the hoa compulsory as you buy the house/land? question from a eurofag

>>2934829
Only if it's already in an HOA

>>2934677
what happens in colorado

>>2934678
>everyone else is responsible for me choosing to buy a house in an HOA
>>2934679
He’s referring to that post number ending in 666 ya twat.
>>2934769
>I don’t care, but here’s my very strong opinion on the subject
Ok
>>2934829
Yes, but only if you buy in an HOA. Most areas in the US have plenty of choices to not. Some areas like parts of California, most of the new construction is HOA but most people in this country absolutely have a choice to not move into one.

>>2934681
I would move to an HOA neighborhood if they could do this but they can't. Most blacks seem to think they can though. Every one I've talk to has bragged to me about how they live in a neighborhood with an HOA meanwhile all the white people I know tell eachother to avoid them whenever they talk about real estate.

>>2934867
Of course. Your alternative is to rent an apartment because everything that isn't HOA is bought up and converted to apartments.

>>2934679
>I can't have appliances strown around my front yard, and a rusty shitbox under a tarp in the driveway nooooooo

Literally what is wrong with this? Why do you care what someone else is doing in their own space?

>>2934880
it lowers property values in the area

>>2934677
Surprise surprise, it's states full of seniles and commies. Must be an pro-authoritarian bootlicking fetish.

I live in FL, which seems like the HOA capital of the US. I'll be honest, my HOA is pretty chill. I wanted to put in a fence, connect it to my neighbors existing fence, but apparently that fence design was no longer supported. I only sent one email stating that having a mismatched fence fucks me, as well as my neighbors who now have a neighbor with a Frankenstein fence. They agreed and let me move forward. I honestly think I could have just gone ahead and put the fence in and they wouldn't have been none the wiser.

Having said that, I did catch the lady who was checking on the fence, making sure that I put in the right design. She was nice enough, but I asked if she was going to knock on my door prior to going into my backyard, and she acted like some kind of authority figure. I casually stated, something to the effect of, "good thing you didn't, that's how people get shot." And she clearly didn't know how to react as we'd been cheerful up until that point.

I've heard horror stories, but I think a lot of times they're just reddit larp stories.

>>2934858
>everyone else is responsible for me choosing to buy a house in an HOA
New homes in cities are not built without an hoa.

>>2934666 (OP)
I used to think this too and I somewhat still do.

I was in one and some painting contractor ran against nobody for a board spot and won. Next day everyone in the development got a letter stating that our exterior paint was faded and in violation, along with an ad for his painting company.

This is the problem with them in my opinion. Nobody without a shitty ulterior motive wants to be involved in it. Some karen bitch or some scammer inevitably ends up in charge.

>>2934953
Being this ignorant in the age of google is absolutely inexcusable.

>>2934959
No, it's true. Nothing new under 400k in vegas comes without an hoa.

>>2934949
> but I asked if she was going to knock on my door prior to going into my backyard, and she acted like some kind of authority figure. I casually stated, something to the effect of, "good thing you didn't, that's how people get shot." And she clearly didn't know how to react as we'd been cheerful up until that point.
Based. I could live next to you.

>>2934959
HOA's primary responsibility is to pay off the loans the builder sold to it while building the development. They subsidize every house and especially the roads and utilities. They didn't pay the city to make them city roads. That's why the hoa owns them and can ticket you for parking on them.

>>2934666 (OP)
Mt father was fined for having the bumper off his classic car when it was in his garage.
They tried breaking into his garage to tow it while we were restoring it, and then they fined him for the window that they broke on his garage door.
Every time he drives it they fine him for "noise violations" despite the HoA president having a truck that's 4 times as loud.

>>2934920
>turning point usa
toilet paper usa are scum

>>2934970
when do we get AI controlled paintball gun turrets

>>2935020
trivially done, unfortunately illegal in most countries

>>2934679
I can't imagine something more cucked than paying someone else to tell you what to do with your own property

>>2934961
I wasn’t aware Vegas was the entire country
>>2934967
>text diarrhea that has nothing to do with the original post I was responding to

>>2935160
Do you not understand how taxes and code enforcement works retard?

>>2935207
we all understand, its just not socially 'acceptable' to demand those faggots be hanging from lampposts when they are entirely propped up by the useless white collar boomer retards that perpetuate the system while hordes of mongoloid NPCs blindly follow along as they sink further and further into debt in an already collapsing society without a care in the world.

>>2934681
god i wish

>>2934961
Zillow shows 122 homes on the market in Las Vegas, under $400k, without an HOA.
Also Las Vegas isn't every city in the country.
Also you don't have to live in the city limits.
Your post is just more of the usual lies that people who buy into HOAs that think they special tell to justify why they won't honor the contract they signed. Most of us simply don't buy into an HOA neighborhood. That's how reasonable people deal with not wanting to follow HOA rules. You on the other hand make up lies to justify your behavior.

>>2935020
Whenever you stop being ignorant enough to wait foot somebody else to sell you one.

They want to stockpile garbage and scrap around their property
also never cut the grass

>>2934878
>Your alternative is to rent an apartment because everything that isn't HOA is bought up and converted to apartments.

The US is enormous so there are many alternatives. like a used single wide on the largest lot one can manage.

Cities are bad so I do not live in one.
Coastal areas and those near fast-moving water, in floodways and flood plains are bad so I don't live in one.
Neighbors are not useful so I require sufficient acreage that I don't have to interact with mine.

Acreage zoned agricultural is good because freedom. It's easy to add structures but hard to build more land. I've a five acre minimum requirement for comfy shooting, wrenching and doing as I please. The old small home on it needed work but because it's a single storey ranch that was easy.

Otherwise I'd have slapped a single-wide on the property, built my workshops then built a small cottage (the larger a house is the greater the burden) or container home (which after doing container shops and a Steelmaster welding shop/garage would be easy and my first choice if my existing home were destroyed).

>>2934911
>it lowers property values in the area

GOOD. I bought my land to live in not as investment property. I don't need to cash out to retire then burn money relocating to the environment I prefer because I already live there and had decades to build and equip as serves ME.

I paid my property off early so I could enjoy it decades before retiring without economic vulnerabilities. The point of working is one day not to work, not to labor unto death for a gilded cage. I want values to stay as low as possible which lets me keep more of my precious money.

Low property lower my taxes. I live INSIDE my home not on the lawn so esthetics aren't worth paying for. They do not make my life better. I grew up in what's now near a million dollar house. I left the area long ago because I have no use for the taxes which were $10K/year in 2000 and why my father sold it.

>>2934970
>forcing entry into a locked garage
That already sounds pretty damned illegal without a warrant.
>enforcing cosmetic regulations on something that isn't even visible because it's in a closed garage
What kind of retards do HOAs hire for their staff?

>>2934911
I have barking dogs, loose livestock, car parts and rotting trailers all over my yard specifically so rich cunts dont want to move in here

>>2934666 (OP)
trips check out. HOAs are retarded for many reasons. my primary contention with HOAs is how they have the (often abused) power to tell others what to to do with their own property. unless karen is paying my mortgage she should keep her mouth shut. i'm from WV though, so we actually understand what property is and isn't. stupid urbaniute mcmansion dwellers fall into the HOA self-cucking humiliation ritual. like pottery.

>>2934911
Yeah! If my home value goes down how will I get my dick sucked on a casino cruise?

everyone bitching about HOA rules
No one here is addressing that the average MONTHLY HOA fees are $300

>>2934911
This is something that's always felt like a dubious claim. How the hell are you supposed to prove this, rather than just claiming it?

>>2934961

its far more likely if the new is part of a neighborhood or other development plan of multiple properties, like a major rezone. Or if attached to some natural resource park

>>2937476
Rational people don’t need proof for common sense.

>>2937609
>t. scam artist

>>2934666 (OP)
>Reminder that 95% of the bitching about HOAs comes from poors who are complaining about not being able to shit up a decent neighborhood
That's incorrect and how would you know? You're only 17. Don't regurgitate what your parents say. But I will tell you, junior, that in my region home ownership is so rediculously expensive thanks to foreign ownership and out of control immigration, so "poor" people cannot own homes. Period.

I was on a board for 2 years as they needed to have 3 people on the board to meet legal requirements. 100% of the complaints came from people complaining that, yes, their neighbours grass was about 2 inches too long. Another wanted a strict lawn watering schedule imposed. Many complaints about people who wouldn't place their garbage cans perfectly square to the curb, Complaints about people not folding up and putting away their lawn furniture after use. I once took a complaint about a twig that was on someones roof and the neighbour demanded it removed. Another complained that a neighbour started their car too early in the AM before they go to work. The petty complaints were endless. It was astoundingly rediculous. I went in with eyes wide open thinking I was joining a neighbourhood, instead I discovered that people, unrestrained, exhibit darkness and malicious streaks. I got out when a job relocation moved me to another region. Too many power hungry people out there.

Oh, and fuck-you o-p for reminding me of the two years of hell I went through. If you were old enough to invest in Tylenol I would have made you rich in those 2 years. :-)

>>2934666 (OP)
My neighbors complained to me that I need to fix the fence because their dog keeps getting out. I just laughed and said they should train the dog to not run away. I plan on completely removing the fence too. It's nice not living in an HOA.

>>2934666 (OP)
>housing inventory is low
>half of the inventory are HOAs
>bro why didn't you buy the 1 million dollar non-HOA home, why are you in the affordable 450k HOA home??

>>2934911
And Thats a good thing.
>muh housing should rise forever average house should be 10 milion
Just die boomer

>>2937148
Never seen one of those god complex HoA roasties, have you?

>>2935069
How's it illegal? I can only speak for German law, but here, it's perfectly legal to control a (legal) gun electrically, so long as it doesn't turn automatic (as in, pull the trigger once for several shots with reloading inbetween - an engine pulling the trigger repeatedly is legal).
You'd also need to ensure the paintballs don't leave your land, and the land would need to be fenced in. But both of those are doable.

....Damn, now I feel like hooking up an arduino to my pellet gun...

>>2940894
Iirc there are specific laws in places against computer controlled weaponry.

>>2940875
I've been fortunate enough to have never lived in an HOA. That said, I'm surprised at the number of instances where a locksmith, tow truck operator, etc. doesn't verify the legality and documentation for a call before following through on doing the job when it comes to stuff like this.

>>2940978
>tow truck driver
>verify anything
lol
lmfao even
when i had my 2nd conex delivered the guy was an absolute ace. set it within 1 inch of where in wanted it. then told me hed been on some brutal wreck all night and hadnt slept in 3 days. so i gave him an extra $20 bucks cash for some tendies and mt dew
then the next week he was on the cover of the local newspaper busted for dealing ice and delivering it in the tow truck

>>2937156
Holy based!

>>2940997
What a legend.

>>2940894
>>2940942
In this context it's considered a "booby trap" which are illegal to use even on private property.

>>2935207
There's a big difference between "You can't do this because it will kill someone/cause immense property damage to others" and "we're taking your house because your shutters are the wrong color".

>be me
>governement is supposed to regulate how my house looks
>nothing happens because nobody follows regulations.
LMAOing at this thread.
t. Yuropoor

>>2934681
I would.

>>2934920
(((Ayn Rand))) Rand was born Alisa Zinovyevna Rosenbaum on February2, 1905, into a Jewishfamily. EVERY SINGLE TIME

>>2934848
Tons of new construction and its all HOAs. Lots of people have moved to greater Denver in the past decade

>>2937156
Doing god's work. You don't need a predatory HOA to manipulate the housing market.
https://youtube.com/shorts/ubURzqb69VU?feature=shared

>>2934970
do HOAs fine u for garages full of junk?

>>2942219
HOAs fine u if u don't kiss ass enough