Thread 2935467

This thing lasted like 2 or 3 and it needs to be changed. I'm thinking about recharging the battery in there.

Call their complaints hotline. I had a defective smoke detector and called the company, got three new ones for free

>extreme poorfag mad about a $7 device only lasting 2 years
Man just be happy you aren't black and you at least understand when these things need maintenance

>>2935500
>$7
More like $27.

Oh the smoke alarm thread. Where is the optimal placement of smoke detectors>
>code says a smoke alarm in every bedroom and one outside the bedroom areas
>between 4 and 12" from ceiling if on the wall
>dead center of any room is ideal but there's always a light there
>CO detectors work better closer to floor but they're all combo smoke/CO detectors
>must be 20 ft away from fireplace
>must be 10ft away from shower/bathroom door
>cannot be in draft line with HVAC/swamp cooler
>cannot be in an area where the front door draft will move smoke away from it
>must be 5' to 20' away from stove
It's kinda tricky to find a position for these things, I got 6 CO/smoke detectors and need to put them up.

>>2935504
smoke and co should be separate alarms, you react differently to these situations.
put smoke on the ceiling not the wall, don't put it right next to the wall either
kitchen should be heat alarm not smoke. bathroom should have suitable extraction, if steam from bathroom trips hall alarm your extraction is not working; fix it.
you shouldn't have a draft from your door idk what that means
these are all guidelines anyway and anything is better than nothing.

OP no, you can't recharge the disposable lithium primary battery inside these things and it's dangerous to try. If you're familiar with CR123s, it's like that.

I can't not support ten year enclosed smoke detector laws, I've seen way too many people be utter dipshits and just remove the battery and leave it like that, or not replace a dead one or whatever.

That said, I wound up smashing two in relatively rapid succession after less than a year, gave up and procured down a not-legal-in-my-state AA battery model, and with normal maintenance it's been flawless.

>>2935504
Would need to see the floorplan, but unless you have to pass a local code inspection, check the NFPA guidelines instead.

>>2935500
Have you always exaggerated like this or did this begin after your sexual molestation?

Only two years old.

i got the photoelectric thinking they would be less sensitive than the ionization i had before but there's basically no difference
after about the 7th nuisance alarm i ripped it off the ceiling and threw it down the basement out of frustration
why cant they just let you adjust the sensitivity

>>2935511
Why when you Google this thing does it say it's no longer available for sale? Why are there YouTube videos about how to replace the battery? And finally why would you buy that instead of one where you just change the battery when it dies?

>>2935544
>why would you buy that instead of one where you just change the battery when it dies?

No longer up to code or even legal to sell in many states, because people weren't changing the battery when it died (so they died instead)

>not having hard wired smoke detectors
poor people problems

>>2935556
Go and look at what's inside it anon.
Spoiler: battery backup
Thank your mom for changing it for you

>>2935503
oh no $27 every 2 years in the worst case scenario, however will you survive. Jfc. Also try shopping around retard

>>2935543
This is why my 10 year alarms fail. They go off for some smoke from cooking, then I silence it and but it keeps going off long after the smoke has cleared and they've been moved outside so I have to deactivate it and buy another.

Am I happy I'm not an ameritard or a bong

>>2935467 (OP)
Fuck that shit, never getting a smoke alarm again. I rather die in my sleep in peace.

>>2935504
One in each bedroom 3ft away from any vents or ceiling fans. I usually put them in a corner or above the door.
One on each floor no further than 12 ft from any bedroom door
One in the furnace room
NOT in a kitchen
Smoke detectors in bedrooms, co/smoke detectors in common areas
Have them wirelessly interconnected

I do this all the time for work and often have to get approval from electrical inspectors with placement.

>>2936097
>BEEP!

>>2935503
$27? I'd be lucky to find some bullshit less than $50 for a smoke/CO detector. Where do you find such a cheap pack?
>>2935556
Not required unless it's a rental unit and there is more than 1 floor.
>>2935569
Fuck you.
>>2936190
I didn't hear anything. It was the hallway making that sound.

>>2936217
>fuck you
you are malding about 3.7 cent per day problem which you've also exaggerated so it's far less. You are worthless.

>>2935467 (OP)
Well, if you kept the receipt and the warranty you should be able to send it back to the company for replacement considering it's clearly defective. If you didn't, there ought to be a way to replace the defective battery yourself, just make sure that it still detects smoke after you do that though, newer shit probably has some bullshit digital thing to prevent you from using it after it "dies" for "your own safety" of course.

>>2935503
i just paid $31 each for two of these fucking things

>>2935467 (OP)
>lasted like 2 or 3 and it needs to be changed

all my wired alarms came with a note stating that they will need to be changed after 10 years
not because of the battery
there isnt one!
but to make sure the sensor is still good
so they have a timer, and will start to complain after about 10 years
no matter what
it's entirely possible your unit stayed a few years on a shelf, then maybe some more years in a contractor's truck
one of the 8 units i have started to complain after 2-3 years as well

>>2935467 (OP)
Why on earth would you buy the one you can't replace the batteries in? Are you retarded?

>>2936438
The manufacture date is July 2023. It was in a bedroom the whole time and never even went off from smoke.

>>2935548
How does the non removable battery dying have a different outcome? Regulators are retards. In get it though, when you got something like Moms-Against-Dead-Batteries nagging you to death you have to do something to shut them up. I just hate when the "solution" is just a different version of the same problem.

>>2937155
>>2935556
turns out hard wired smoke detectors generally have a very poor PSU and no power factor correction, if you pay for apparent power it's horrible and they are hungry in general.
>battery dead what do
going by OPs pic I'd put a few lithium cells into a pack and put that in there. Theres plenty of space. Recharge every few years.

>>2937155
>How does the non removable battery dying have a different outcome?

Simple, it starts beeping at you and won't shut up for you to replace the whole unit before it's totally dead. Eliminates the frequent failure mode of people just yanking out the dying battery and thinking "I'll replace it later" and then never doing it. The only way to silence one of these things is to remove it from the ceiling, bust open the case, and cut the wires to the battery. The battery is meant to last the entire functional life of the unit, you never need to worry about it unless you're a building owner.

>Regulators are retards.

Sure, but not for the ten year thing, it makes a lot of sense in theory. The problem is that smoke detectors already are a market where the manufacturers coast on old, barely functional, horrible UX designs because they have no real incentives to make them not suck. All the competition except in the niche IoT connected bullshit luxury space is functionally on price.

So they ship 10 year units that suck and fail well before the ten year mark. People go through the rigamarole to disable these and replace them for more money. Everyone wins except the residents.

But it's still a great idea in theory, the problem isn't too much regulation of smoke detectors, it's not enough. There needs to be minimum standards for quality and UX. I (I'm also >>2935506) would love to replace my grey market shit I have to maintain with something that Just Works for ten years.