Thread 2939376

I'm considering buying pic related. Never been up on a ladder before and want 28 ft so i have the option to get onto second story if i need to.

Is this overkill? I don't love that its fiberglass and the price is outrageous, but it is pretty light for not being aluminum (57 pounds) and the wide stance of the adjustable outriggers looks way more stable than a regular extension ladder

>>2939376 (OP)
If you wanted stability you should have bought a rope to tie it down. For everything else there's components for stabilizing the part you'll actually be imparting tipping force on. Remember the 3 point rule unless of course you're a painter; a trade no OSHAman has ever thought about when making horseshit rules.

>>2939376 (OP)
I have a really long ass aluminum extension ladder amongst my collection that doesn't really collapse and it's extendable so it goes really really high. It's wobbly as fuck when fully extended. Like think guitar string twang. Ropes to tie down are a good idea as another anon said. The outriggers are a cool concept for when you don't have anyone around to help stabilize it at ground level. You can actually use long stakes (like rebar pieces) to keep a metal ladder anchored in the ground so you can go up solo. Just have to be cognizant of hitting underground wiring or plumbing if your stakes are too long. Tying it down at mid height and full height is advisable.

>>2939376 (OP)
>>2939389
These are both fine.
>>2939395
Never heard of staking down a ladder like you're referring too. Personally I nail down a 2x4 behind the feet if I deem necessary or put down a bundle of shingles. You could use a bag of sand or gravel, it's the same concept of having an apprentice footing the ladder.

>>2939403
I prefer
>>2939389
Because I would rather the tendency for the rare fuck up to happen lower on the ladder as opposed to up higher. OP's might seem stable but the force is magnified the further up you are and it will still wobble. A top ladder stabilizer will only get more stable the higher you go, nothing wrong with both though.
On a related unrelated note I've seen painters use a volvo bumper as the "apprentice footing the ladder".

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>>2939403
>>2939395

op here, I've heard of people stabilizing a ladder before but always assumed that was in precarious situations. surely people who are alone need to also get on top of their roofs. I suppose i could get this ladder plus buy a top stabilizer.

placing a bag of sand or something behind the feet sounds like a good idea, but tying down with stakes or nailing a board into the ground sounds so impractical because a lot of jobs require to come down the ladder and move the ladder and go back up again like if cleaning gutter from the ladder for example

>>2939437
nailing a board behind the feet is for situations where youre set up on a slippery wooden surface like a wet or icy deck, but also allows you to to set up at angles that would be unsafe otherwise. which brings me to my next point, the most important parts of ladder safety are level feet and ladder angle. outriggers are unneccessary and the standoff is more of a roofing and siding tool.

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>>2939395
>You can actually use long stakes (like rebar pieces) to keep a metal ladder anchored
yeah that's what you need is a couple foot long rebar spikes right at the bottom of your 28ft ladder.

I have a ladder like picrel, and I like it a lot. BUT, it is pretty heavy. They have other versions that come with wheels to drag behind you. Maybe something to consider cause it looks like it takes up less space than the one you referenced.

Sweet a ladder thread. I've posted it in the past, but still in the back of my mind to do someday. I want to take two extension ladders and make a top bracket for them that ties them together and a brace between each ladder about 6' off the ground or so that ties the legs together to make an adjustable height a frame ladder. Anyone ever seen this done before?

>>2939524
I have the "Ultralight" version of that, it's not light light but it's pretty easy to move around, I just hauled it up to a third floor the other day. I got it at Costco earlier this year and I think they still have them. Mine also has extra leg extension things on one side for use on stairs, which is nice.

>>2939524
I did consider this one, but the leveler model is pretty heavy, about as heavy as the fiberglass extension, and you can only raise it after it's been extended. I've heard it is extremely annoying to handle but it would probably work. Max length on their leveler model is 26 ft though so i would hate for it to be just shy of what i need for the second story.

>>2939484
what do you mean by "standoff"

>>2939545
This
>>2939389
good for working around gutters, climbiing on/off the roof, etc.

What type of ladder is this called?

>>2939554
'Cockgobbler's ladder' they have them at most big box stores.