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Anonymous No.2942734 >>2942742 >>2942747 >>2942799 >>2942946 >>2943184
What are the advantages and disadvantages of the Stillson and Swedish pipe wrench designs? What do you prefer, or what do you prefer for what tasks?
Anonymous No.2942737 >>2942799
>294273for
go data mine r*ddit
Anonymous No.2942742
>>2942734 (OP)
Stillson because America
Anonymous No.2942747
>>2942734 (OP)
>Stillson
Its been around for a hundred years so you can get ones that are excellent quality used at estate sales very cheaply.

>Swedish
Literally never seen or used one. None of the stores here carry it.
Anonymous No.2942793
Stillson for me... I just got two 24" Rigid and two 18" Rigid off an auction for $56. Also a couple Rigid chain wrenches. One 24" and one 18" for $21 and $16 respectively.

I'm a whore for old Rigid pipe tools...
Bepis Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.2942799
>>2942734 (OP)
This >>2942737

Old school ‘Murrica pipe wrench is cool because of the whole push down and get a good bite, lift up and it cams off to rotate it back. Genius design.

Modern swedish pipe wrenches with the S-jaw design can bite really well. They’re a little bit lighter than the same length iron Ridgid I think. Big iron Stillson pipe wrenches get heavy but last forever.

Angle of the jaws and head size does matter. You need a decent amount of space to get Stillson wrenches into places unless you have an assortment of funky shaped ones.

I’d probably take water pump pliers up to 1” pipe, then swedish pipe wrench in many cases from 1”-2”, and then Stillson when you’re ready to stick a cheater bar on the end and bust off some old big black pipe.
Anonymous No.2942810 >>2942814 >>2942816
Why am I such a tool whore...
Anonymous No.2942814
>>2942810
Fucks sake... I racked up $709 worth of shit at this auction.
Anonymous No.2942816 >>2942824
>>2942810
website?
Anonymous No.2942824 >>2942829
>>2942816
https://cashcarryauction dot com.

It's a somewhat local auction house. 0% buyer premium if you pay cash. They're starting to get more popular, so the deals aren't quite as good anymore. Lot of boomer household goods and collector bullshit, but once in awhile there is an estate sale with some good tools...

I should probably quit buying shit, my estate auction is going to be fucking killer...
Anonymous No.2942829 >>2942832
>>2942824
>a true man of culture
Anonymous No.2942832
>>2942829
You know it baby! I paid too much for the Craftsman wrenches, but it's a whole set... I definitely made up the difference on the concrete saw (worth an easy $400 on ebay), wildcat grinder, That Texas Pneumatic chipping hammer (about $300 on ebay), the ss banding material for a band-it clamp tool, the cast iron apple peeler (worth $100-125 on e-bay) the Dazey butter churns (worth at least $75-100 a piece on e-bay)... But the best buy of the night was definitely the white pearl unicorn for my daughter!
Anonymous No.2942946
>>2942734 (OP)
stillson strong, swedie ez. duh
Anonymous No.2943184 >>2943206
>>2942734 (OP)
Those wrenches are neither a “Stillson Pattern” or “Swedish Pattern” pipe wrenches.
The simpler “American” pattern pipe wrench is a “Thewes Pattern” wrench design, originally made by the Ridge Tool Company (Later Ridgid) that has become the US industry pattern for a pipe wrench, but which has also been made in France by Virax, and in Japan, and Spain, etc.
The Thewes Pattern differs from the earlier Stillson wrench, in that only the dynamic jaw pivots in the Thewes design, rather than the dynamic jaw pivoting on a separate piece attached to the handle by a bolt or rivet.
The Thewes Pattern wrench design likely used parts such as the dynamic jaws and nuts from original Stillson wrenches (made by Walworth), but Thewes simplified the Stillson/Walworth design after the original Stillson patent had expired.
The Thewes/Ridgid design became so popular, Walworth tried to make their iwn version that bypassed the Thewes/Ridgid patents.

As for the “Swedish Pipe wrench” OP pictured, that is actually a Knipex quick adjust version of the “Swedish” style pipe wrench, but it differs from the standard “Swedish Style Pipe Wrenches” that German manufacturers now make as an industry standard, (actually based on and somewhat accurately copying the original Johansson Patent wrenches originally made by Bahco, the Swedish tool manufacturer).
Bahco still manufactures a “Swedish Style Pipe Wrench”, however the current Bahco pipe wrenches vary from the original design more than the standard German versions, and both are different than that design by Knipex, a German manufacturer that still makes somewhat accurate versions of the original Johansson design.
Anonymous No.2943206 >>2943262 >>2943434
>>2943184
Interesting, but when and why would you opt for an American/Ridgid versus Swedish/Knipex/Bahco?
Bepis Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.2943262 >>2943434
>>2943206
Get a good bite with the Ridgid and there’s no handles to squeeze so you can cheater bar that bitch on real stubborn stuff.
Anonymous No.2943434
>>2943206
>Interesting, but when and why would you opt for an American/Ridgid versus Swedish/Knipex/Bahco?
The American/Ridgid style pipe wrenches are just a basic solid tool, made for biting into a pipe like a rabid bit bull.
The wrenches can also be used on square and hex fasteners, but were designed for round soft pipe.
You adjust the size, put the wrench on in the right direction, and the wrench jaws just bite into the pipe.
As >>2943262 said the simple handle is good for cheater pipes.

The Bahco Design is basically a “plier” type wrench, and can be used as pliers in a pinch.
The Swedish type has two handles though, which you have to squeeze together to use, at least initially, making the design not as basic and quick in use.
The handles can also flop apart if you fail to hold both in use, and Bahco used yo, and may still, sell an accessory to hold the handles closer together to prevent the problem.

I would saw the Bahco version is lighter than the American design, but with Aluminum handles as an option, that may no longer be the case.
The Swedish wrenches may be narrower, which can be helpful in certain situations, but also may provide slightly less grip.
Basically, Bahco is slightly more versatile in use, Ridgid is simpler to use once the jaw is adjusted to the right opening size.
Also, you can buy every single part for the Ridgid style wrenches as replacement parts, and most brands making the Ridgid style wrenches use compatible parts, with the possible exception of MCC of Japan, which uses a varied design on some series of their “American Style” wrenches.
Anonymous No.2943629
Harbor freight has the cheapest large pipe wrenches. I'm not a full time plumber so good enough.