Thread 2943018

What's the go with woodworking tools? I'm a total novice and I want to get into woodworking, but looking at all the hand tools is totally overwhelming

Why does a simple plane cost hundreds and hundreds of dollars? What brands should I even be looking at? What should I even be looking in terms of tools if I want to start off making furniture?

>>2943018 (OP)
buy used, learn to sharpen. you don't need hand tools at all really, 99% of their functions are done faster and better with air or powertools.

>>2943018 (OP)
They are niche. No one uses them anymore except for 'artisan' type and weirdos. Power jointers and planers replaced planes. Routers and mortising drill presses replaced chisels. Various types of power saws replaced hand saws. For a 'modern' woodworker the one useful things in that picture are the marking gauge, the square and the pencil.

Now, if you are absolutely dead set on doing hand tools then do what >>2943029 suggested. Buy used. Want a plane? Can't go wrong with Stanley. Do some research to find out what are the good ones and which ones were value engineered. Chisels? Just about anyone really. You can literally fix just about any problem with a chisel by sharpening it properly. Shitty ones have crappy metal, so you have to sharpen them more often, but you can fix just about everything else. Saws? Old old saws are all about the handle, not the blade. Picture related. Same company, different eras. Which one looks like it had more work put into it? That's the better, more comfortable handle. The metal used in the blades is completely surpassed by modern stuff but that just means you have to sharpen it a bit more often. Get a few old saws of different types with nice handles and use them until you have sharpened the metal away. By that time you will be able to recognize a good saw blade and buy a modern one. Then rip off the plastic shit handle and mount one of the nice handles to it.

>>2943052
>Can't go wrong with Stanley
pic unrelated

>>2943052
Thanks bro

MURATIC ACID.

>>2943055
the ironic thing is that this is a rip-of off german depression era rip-ofs kek

>>2943018 (OP)
pull always better than push

>>2943275
Meme

>>2943347
Yep.

>>2943052
>Routers and mortising drill presses replaced chisels.
You sometimes need chisels to square various rounded corners left by the above. Also detail work when you lack the time to build a router jig.

>Various types of power saws replaced hand saws.
They still have their uses for fine work such as dovetail joinery and anything you can't rig a jig for an accurate power saw cut for in a hurry. Not the ryoba in OP's pic related, though. These are just inaccurate. I do own fine toothed katabas and a dozuki for that sort of thing.

>>2943055
Worst tool I have ever owned. I followed the entire meme guide to flatten the sole, square it, add friction to the blade and fix the chip breaker but then it got btfo by an antique no 7 I got for $20 and I gave the sb3 away

It even has an moulding flash on the handle that gives you blisters when using it

My #1 wood working tool is an angle grinder.

>>2943018 (OP)
It’s a somewhat okay set. If I had $200 to spend now I’d buy the razorsaw, two cheap narex chisels, sharpening set, old smoothing plane, pencil, square. Make something and then figure out what you need next. Always let the job at hand decide what tools you need theres no point in pre emptively outfitting an entire shop

>>2943018 (OP)
>Why does a simple plane cost hundreds and hundreds of dollars? What brands should I even be looking at? What should I even be looking in terms of tools if I want to start off making furniture?
for the same reason Dude Wipes cost 10 times more than they should. get a battery or a corded one, it will be many times faster, easier to use and probably still cheaper. even a chink one for peanuts will give you much better results

>>2943609
>My #1 wood working tool is an angle grinder.
unironically, with a bosch multimaterial disc it's perfect for making quick ad hoc cuts

>>2943347
yeah good meme

>>2943605
A mortising drill press specifically drills square holes.

>>2945357
Ah, that's a different type of animal from what I'm used to. In my country, the most common tools for mortises are chain mortisers (basically a short chain saw blade in a drill press/knee mill frame that cuts with the tip). These will make square holes if you go all the way through but if you cut a blind mortise you'll end up with the curve of the rail at the bottom on the left and right side. For removing that last bit I use a chisel.

>>2945607
Also, while there are more precise stationary ones, I prefer the framing carpenter's version. It's quick to set up, can be carried, and doesn't require 3 phase. Pic related.

>>2945609
This brings back bad memories of my first job, fighting this old chain mortiser and its shitty guide that couldn't stay vertical and the chain always got loose super fast

>>2943018 (OP)
What kind of furniture do you want to make? You can work backwards mentally. Figure out your wood, and the cuts you want to make in it. Then you will know the right tool set. If you're on a budget and you are in the US, you can just get tools from Harbor Freight. It's cheap and the tools will be good enough for your first home project. You can buy almost everything you see in your picture, chisels, planes, saw, etc from Harbor Freight for under $150.

>>2943029
>buy used, learn to sharpen
>100%

I hit a lot of estate sales, guy dies, left garage full of tools. A dentist who made simple crappy birdhouses but had $4K Powermatic table saw and never used Japanese master chisel set.
>t. Don't be that guy

thoughts on woodworking mommy?

>>2945736
Her workbench looks pretty good. I would feel bad working on it.
>tfw no woodworking jewess housewife

>>2945813
I would work her with my wood on top of that table if you know what I mean.

>>2945612
They have a way of being like that. It's a fairly niche, expensive tool so it's often kept around well past its useful service life. No generic spare parts either so you'll find plenty still running the chain they were sold with 50 years ago because the maker stopped making that particular model or went out of business well before the first toughts of chain replacement began to form in the owner's mind. And even if it's in the sort of state you describe, it'll get sold used a couple more times to a succession of suckers/guys who are ok with its deficiencies as long as they don't have to chisel mortises by hand.

>>2945736
>workshop way too clean
>way too many finishing products
>pretty looking but mostly useless gadgets (peg board, that saw table contraption) - typical LARPer
>lots of plywood and self tapping screws
>a fucking yenta
>dat smugstein mug
0/10, wouldn't

>>2945884
>workshop way too clean
She has a pretty good dust collection system.
>way too many finishing products
>pretty looking but mostly useless gadgets (peg board, that saw table contraption) - typical LARPer
She has the time and the shekels to try everything

The workbench I was talking about
https://youtu.be/Ka07qEsd6oM

>>2945893
>to try everything
and whats the point sarah?
imagine wasting time min maxing wipe on poly

>>2945948
Cease your whining, appreciate woodworking mummy