Thread 2945320

The first thing a real man does when he gets a new angle grinder is rip off the guard and toss it in the garbage.

>>2945320 (OP)
>this guy doesn't own an angle grinder and had to buy one

in the future serial killers will use angle grinders to kill robots

>>2945320 (OP)
Four inch grinders are for manlets and others that are four foot eleven and under.

Real men use a corded or pneumatic grinder.

>>2945415
That's a small grinder though.

>>2945376
>gloves
He must’ve got them bedside they matched his purse

OP there's no need to take it off I can promise you of i have found ways to work with it for over 13 years no compromise to cut depth angle or usable disk and it has the benefit of keeping sparks in one direction

>>2945461
this

>>2945461
>have found ways to work with it
so you admit its at a minimum an inconvenience and often a hindrance to practical use that requires extra steps to match the productivity of other users

>>2945320 (OP)
> garbage
Nah… I sold my guard for $20 on eBay to someone in California. The law there is you need a minimum of 2 guards.

>>2945476
krautland must be the same way. they send you 2 guards with your new metabo to verify the full schadenfreuden experience

>>2945461
Pussy.

>>2945464
>often a hindrance
Git gud

>>2945415
While I do love a 7-9" grinder for heavy material removal, a 4-5" corded grinder is like a damn surgical tool with a cut-off wheel...

>>2945452
sometimes you need the precision of a 9incher to touch up what the bench grinder wont get

>>2945478
I am eufag who got this bs on some parkside grinder too. fortunately ot stopped working after 5 min and into the trash it went.

>>2945464
No but I was told by the older welders that it was necessary to take it off so I spent 13 years using my grinder the right way proving them wrong my way is best so end of story Listen, you little wiseacre: I'm smart, you're dumb; I'm big, you're little; I'm right, you're wrong, and there's nothing you can do about it!

>>2945512
There are few times (5%) you really have to take it off but thats life

>>2945320 (OP)
it's an IQ test, just like wearing a seat belt.

>>2945320 (OP)
>/ggg/ - guardless grinder general
This is the closest thing we will ever have to /svsg/ again after doug was banned from yt for sending a video of him bonking a shop vac to an old lady

>>2945565
>doug was banned from yt for sending a video of him bonking a shop vac to an old lady
I gotta see this...

>>2945461
but if he keep it one, we might think his dick is tiny!

>>2945552
you literally can't see what ur doing with a guard on though

>>2945320 (OP)
Go right ahead. I encourage this. PPE is also gay because it interferes with my vision and hearing.

>>2945647
this, shop I used to work at everyone refused to wear PPE no matter how much managment pussies threatened to write up. any new guy who started off wearing glasses and earpro would get harassed mercilessly and ostracized until he stopped, then we'd let him be one of us.

I take the guard off so I can change discs more easily.
Aint no way am I gonna keep track of where that dumb wrench is.
The only time I miss it is when I break a disc (at rest) by accidentally bumping it with something or if it falls a short distance or whatever.

>>2945320 (OP)
every single time someone says that the guard gets in the way, it turns out that they were just retarded and didn't know how to use a grinder, and nothing they were doing would be impacted by the guard in any way. there are some rare tasks where the guard can in fact be a bit cumbersome, like circular cuts, but the grinder isn't the most optimal tool for them anyway and eating sparks or risking the disk kicking back into your nuts for no reason 99% of the time, just because it can get in the way in that one job, is extremely retarded

>>2945415
the grinder size has nothing to do with it being corded, cordless, or pneumatic. I have a 9'' cordless grinder, among others, 4.5'' or 5'' corded and 3'' pneumatic ones. I have way too many grinders, come to think of it

>>2945674
you don't need a wrench to change disks (maybe in some rare cases when the screw jams really hard) and it has nothing to do with whether the guard is on or not. most grinders that aren't total powerty tier have a toolless change knob that makes it really easy or a wrench storage inside the handle

>>2946161
My grinder needs a wrench if I can't grip the disc.
I can't grip the disc with the guard on.
QED.

>>2946159
>operates a grinder with his nuts in the path of a potential kickback
>calls others retarded
lol

look at this madman
he's been doing this for years and still has both eyes and all of his digits!
HOW DOES HE KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT?????

>>2946170
what's with the homosexual look at the camera

>>2946172
That's the kind of look that says,
>guardfags btfo

Ahmm... no thanks. I want to keep all of my fingers to play with the pussy of my future girlfriend

>>2945649
Did you take him out back and give him an honary circumcision initiation by angle grinder too? Did you cum in his ears so he knows his mind is other people's cum sock?

>>2945320 (OP)
>imma big tuff manly man who needs no nanny guard
>gets mad at a minor inconvenience of using it
Or in other words, a poser

>>2946410
cry more, pussy.

>>2946190
if you stop using a guard your test will go up which will make you more attractive to women.

>>2946418
>cries when guard gets in the way
>calls out others for crying when they poke fun at him
You just need to grow up

>>2946425
maybe you're the type of person who cries when something gets in your way but a real man just removes it. same case here, took the guard off before it was even out of the box and got to work. not that you'd know anything about that.

>>2946428
I just can think one step ahead and realize that not having an eye or a finger is much more inconvenient than having the guard on so I just deal with it like a responsible adult I am.
>but I've been doing it for years and I'm fine
It's always like that until it isn't. There are two types of people: those who show off by doing dumb things, and those who regret they did.

>>2946430
>here are two types of people: those who show off by doing dumb things, and those who regret they did.
There's a third type of person too... Whiny little bitches like you.

>>2946170
attention seeker seeks attention
more at eleven

>>2945464
oh noes! not hecking 2(two) extra seconds to move the guard! think of the money loss for your boss!

>>2946170
Ahh, John Heisz...

this fucking guy used to install commercial/industrial steel doors for a living which is pretty unforgiving work.
he's probably logged more hours on the angle grinder than you all have gooning to anime. Imagine that for a sec.

Great clip, by the way, I appreciate the effort put in to whomever made it.

>>2946439
>can't deal with minor inconvenience that only happens when using the tool wrong or using the wrong tool for the job in the first place
>tries to spin it as some sort of masculinity thing to dodge criticism
>calls others whiny bitches for poking fun at his retardation
Yeah you just need to grow up

Guardfags keep bringing up the masculinity angle as if the statement in the OP isn't a joke.
Here's the truth:
The reasons people take the guard off rarely include "i want to prove how masculine i am"'.
On the other hand, it is very gay and not masculine if you don't understand (and don't want to understand) how to use the tool safely when there's no guard.

>>2946517
Masculinity is not the reason, it's an excuse to keep doing dumb things because you're either too stupid to do it right or too poor to have a suitable tool.

>>2946473
>Yeah you just need to grow up
>Whiny bitch still whining.

Yup. Figured so.

>>2946561
I'm not the one whining that guard gets in the way lmao
Keep coping

>>2946567
>I'm not the one whining that guard gets in the way lmao
I've never once whined that the guard is in the way, because I immediately throw it away as soon as I get a new grinder. Easy peasy.

>>2946651
You're doing it because you're either a whiny bitch who can't handle the inconvenience of having it on or a whiny bitch trying to mask it under a false bravado. So which one is it?

>I immediately throw it away as soon as I get a new grinder
Do you at least strike a JoJo pose when doing it? Or bros might talk

Many of these safety "features" exist to protect manufacturers from lawsuits, and not to protect you from harm.

>>2946527
You are still wrong because the reason to do it laziness.

>>2946454
hes a good guy as far as canadians go. been watching him fucking forever.

>>2946693
>Imagine being so ass-blasted by what someone else does with their tools that you have to write several paragraph long complaints over multiple threads on a Mongolian basket weaving forum...

ISHYGDDT

>>2946746
>Imagine being so ass-blasted by what someone else does with their tools that you keep making these threads
Btw having the the guard on would make literaly zero difference on your pic, i.e. cheap poser confirmed

if you're doing something with a grinder where the guard is inconvenient, you are doing something the grinder disc was not designed for and you might need that guard all of a sudden. if you guys wanna catch exploding high rpm fragments though be my guest, less 4chan using internet retards around the better.

>>2945320 (OP)
always keep two grinders in hand
>precision/daily grinder
guard on, cant get precision without thumb control on the shield
>death wheel
that one old grinder the wheel was lost ages ago, its small, it has no safety measures whatever, its only used for cutting Thoose things or That bolt.
if you are serous you need a third one
>God wheel
she be kicking, its the buttold large disk behemoth with a recoil that shifts the earths orbit. you dont turn around with this in your hand spinning, the earth turns around you, satelittes fall out of orbit and russian drones end up in poland when you do.
but dont diss the guard cover.

>>2946763
>>Imagine being so ass-blasted by what someone else does with their tools that you keep making these threads
I didn't make the thread.
>>2946763
>Btw having the the guard on would make literaly zero difference on your pic, i.e. cheap poser confirmed
See it doesn't matter whether it is on or off, so why do you care so much?

When something becomes an inconvenience it gets the axe. I don't care if it's a grinder guard, pto shield, belt or chain guard, or a woman...

>>2946763
Do you really think anyone is reassessing whether or not the guard is going to make a difference for every cut they make?
No, the guard gets tossed or lost -- either immediately upon purchase or the first time it becomes even a little bit of a nuisance -- and we move on with our lives.

I've actually never encountered IRL someone who was injured by a grinder. I wonder if there's any data on how common grinder injuries are and how severe they tend to be.

>>2946765
>if you're doing something with a grinder where the guard is inconvenient, you are doing something the grinder disc was not designed for
this is embarrassingly false
the guard has absolutely nothing to do with that

>>2946857
>I didn't make the thread.
Oh then keep going I guess?

>See it doesn't matter whether it is on or off,
I stand corrected - it wouldn't affect your ability to do the job, it would however make a difference between a change of pants and a ride to the hospital if something goes too wrong.

>so why do you care so much?
It wouldn't affect me in the slightest if either of you get a shard through your face, I'm just here to have fun at your immature behaviour.

>When something becomes an inconvenience it gets the axe
Let's just hope that eye or finger of yours aren't that much of an inconvenience

>>2946880
>Do you really think anyone is reassessing whether or not the guard is going to make a difference for every cut they make?
Uh normally you should? And the question isn't if you should take the guard off or put it back on but whether you should do it in a different way so that the guard isn't in the way, or use a different tool altogehter.

>I've actually never encountered IRL someone who was injured by a grinder.
I've never seen anyone die in a car crash IRL either, so?
"How it could possibly happen to me" is one of the dumbest thing you can say when it does happen to someone every day.

>I wonder if there's any data on how common grinder injuries are and how severe they tend to be.
https://www.google.com/search?q=angle%20grinder%20injuries%20statistics
>Angle grinders cause thousands of injuries annually, ranking among the most dangerous power tools, with major mechanisms including abrasive wheel shattering, kickback, and blade segment loss. Head and hand injuries are particularly common, sometimes leading to severe outcomes like amputations, nerve damage, and even fatalities. Statistics vary by region and study, but data from the U.S. suggests nearly 25,000 injuries, while the UK's Health and Safety Executive reports over 5,000 accidents a year.

>>2946890
It says a lot about you that you would cite an AI hallucination to justify your fear and anger.
Perhaps your contempt is a product of envy?
You have the power to achieve your goals your way, safely. It's okay to take off the training wheels and ride without a helmet -- you're more capable than you think. Just be careful -- and remember that "being careful" is not the same thing as "following all the proper safety procedures"; not even close.

>>2946896
That's a lot of words to say "nothing bad will ever happen to me".
Dude, you're not in complete control of a thing that spins at 200 km/h no matter how much you pound your chest that you are. The only thing you can do is make sure you stay out of the way when (not if) it goes off. Keeping guard on along with other safety equipment is a large part of that.

>AI hallucination
There are links to peer reviewed works and official statistics that say the same below yet you chose to ignore that just to keep being right in your mind. Like I said, if getting your face whacked by the grinder is what it takes for you to change your mind, please be my guest by all means. I'm not really fond of watching people get hurt but it could sometimes make a good laugh.

>>2945320 (OP)
Fact : any thread that includes "real man" or similar is about OP refusing to accept that he is a massive dick-loving faggot

>>2945649
>faggot harasses about eyepro
>poke faggot in the eye
>faggot harasses about earpro
>box faggot's ears

>>2945376
>2Ah dewalt
That's good for about three triggers.

Enjoy the trailer.

>>2947021
yeah as soon as you put your aids infested fingers anywhere near my eyes you'd get snapped in two pieces you fucking faggot, but keep larping

>>2946901
I don't know what boogeyman you've invented that you think you're arguing against.
I'm not making claims that "nothing bad will ever happen to me" or that I can control kickbacks or accidents.
I just know how my tools work. If you know which direction the disc spins and the axis upon which it does so, you can just -- get this -- STAY OUT OF THE WAY of sparks, shattered discs, and kickbacks.
It does kick, a lot; but i make my cuts such that it kicks AWAY from me.
It does throw sparks, a lot; but I make my cuts such that it throws them NOT IN MY FACE.
I've never seen a disc shatter and have only heard a couple of stories online; but I make my cuts such that if it were to happen, the shards are going NOT TOWARDS ME.

It's as if you're imagining that people are out working with the disc inches away from their eyeballs with their fingers in the path of their cuts and their dick right in line with the majority of the spark discharge. Any sensible worker is using a posture and hand placement and positioning such those risks are GREATLY mitigated -- enough so that it makes the guard superfluous!

>>2947071
>I'm not making claims that "nothing bad will ever happen to me" or that I can control kickbacks or accidents.
You effectively do by claiming that you have the ability to always
>STAY OUT OF THE WAY of sparks, shattered discs, and kickbacks.
>make my cuts such that it kicks AWAY from me.
>make my cuts such that it throws them NOT IN MY FACE.
"Never rely on being careful for being safe". It's a well known and respected rule in hazardous occupations, written in blood. You don't control every variable and your attention is not perfect. Sometimes shit happens despite your best efforts or intentions.

>I make my cuts such that if it were to happen, the shards are going NOT TOWARDS ME.
But they are, because you have no guard. At the very least it's your hands you're holding the grinder with that are in the plane of rotating disc, and they're getting smashed hard when it breaks. I hope you don't think shards only fly where sparks do? And don't try to tell me there's never anything else too - if not your eyes then it's arms, legs, chest etc. because you only have issues with the guard because you keep doing something awkward with the grinder.

>Any sensible worker is using a posture and hand placement and positioning such those risks are GREATLY mitigated -- enough so that it makes the guard superfluous!
Guard gives you an entire safe sector where you're protected from being directly hit. Without it at least some parts of your body are ALWAYS in the way.
It takes less than 20 milliseconds for the broken shards to hit you and the distance only increases the chance that they miss the important bits. So it matters jack shit how careful you think you are, what you're really relying on is pure luck.

>>2945320 (OP)
I use it as a pivot point to carefully plunge into parts, the real manly test is the trigger safety shit new grinders come with, if you haven't found a way to bypass it so it stays ON you're a faggot.

>>2945320 (OP)
You tell 'em Doug. The SV Seeker wasn't built by a man raised by a woman.

>>2946172
two gay guys locking eyes

Seen so many retards on the farm injured by grinders, because they've never been trained how to use them.
>wrong disk
>no guard
>incorrectly fastened
>stupid cutting angle
But I've seen just as many injuries where someone who knew what they were doing just lost focus or slipped.

>>2947457
No guard is the proper way to use it though. At least for a real man it is.

>>2947460
True
You're not a real man if you have all your digits intact

>>2945592
It's pretty small, like smaller than the chance of having a major accident with my eyes or rusting my shop tools by getting grinding dust all over them or getting sparks on your mom when she's waiting in the background

>>2945320 (OP)
the second thing he does is put an appropiately sized (extends past the end of the handle) saw blade on it. inb4 gay jews say that this is dangerous or will burn out the motor

>>2945320 (OP)
a day comes when you need to put an oversized thing on the grinder and then never get around to putting the gaurd back on

>>2948208
A real man has no use for the side handle. He simply holds it with one hand and easily controls it despite any kickback.

>>2947173
Yes, I am relying on luck to some degree, just as I do every single day of my life with every task ever -- with or without a guard. That's life. If I was concerned with safety above all else I would literally not do any work.

>Never rely on being careful for being safe
This directive confuses me because to my mind, the two things are inseperable. Between two scenarios,
>A cautious, attentive, skilled worker elects to make all of his cuts without a guard
and
>A reckless, distracted, unskilled worker makes all of his cuts with a guard
Which of them is more likely to be injured? Is it safe if I throw caution to the wind because I happen to have a guard on my grinder?

>b-b-but the skilled worker can use a guard too and then he'll be EXTRA safe!
Maybe so; I still don't care. That extra degree of safety (which I really believe is minimal -- not zero! -- in the case of the skilled worker) is not worth the time and effort involved in its use.
When I buy a new grinder, I either leave the guard on because that's how it comes out of the box, or I put it on because "meh, it can't hurt".
It inevitably becomes a nuisance; the moment that happens, it goes in the trash and I move on with my life.

What do you think safety even is? If it's not a mindset or a stance or a behavior based on your own judgment, I don't know what to say to you. If being safe to you means that you just always use all the manufacturer's recommended safety features regardless of context, that strikes me as woefully naive. I really want to know; I'm not trying to misrepresent your position. I'm just genuinely confused about what you think it means to be safe.

>>2945320 (OP)
Need advice from someone Angle Grinder Certified.
I've got a cinderblock wall I need to cut a dog and sheep door in. Is an angle grinder with diamond wheels an appropriate choice?
The door will be 5'x3'. My plan is to score or cut the blocks, then sledgehammer them out. After that, trim it up with the grinder and frame out the door.

>>2948557
It will work. Would obviously be easier with a concrete saw and deeper depth of cut, but use what you have at hand and get er done.

>>2948560
Thanks, I'll keep my face away from the disc.

>>2948536
>This directive confuses me because to my mind, the two things are inseperable
Not as much as you think. You should, of course, always try to be careful, but it should never be your last or only safety measure. Always have a solid backup plan that doesn't rely on you not fucking up because one day you will. Everyone make mistakes and you're not an exception.

>Which of them is more likely to be injured?
Both are idiots and shouldn't use dangerous tools

>What do you think safety even is
Safety is risk management. You see danger, you check with yourself if you're ok with that happening to you, then you either proceed or take steps to mitigate it until the risk becomes acceptable.

>mindset or a stance or a behavior based on your own judgment
The problem is that personal judgement is flawed, it's easy to downplay danger and overestimate your ability to prevent it, especially if you have a lazy and complacent mindset, or just overlook something. Obvious corporate bullshit aside, safety rules are written in blood and by more competent people than me, so I'd rather inconvenience myself trying to follow them than let my judgement find a suitable excuse not to. And willingly throwing away a safety device that has a very clear use supported by statistics and provided to you for your own money just because youre too dumb or lazy to work around it is plain idiotic.

>>2948620
I'm upset that you avoided the question about the two workers. I'm going to choose to believe it's because you know deep down inside where you're soft like a woman that skill, attention, and caution do the heavy lifting when it comes to power tool safety.
Your passion for this topic is amusing though. Want to guess what safety features I don't have on my table saw?

>>2945320 (OP)
Actually no, fucking handle goes into trash. It is useless on 4 1/2 or 125mm grinders.
Guard can be useful as a guide for cutting shit straight.

>>2948676
>I'm upset that you avoided the question about the two workers.
I didn't, you just don't like the answer (or rather that I didn't bite on your loaded question)
>which is better, one stupid thing or another stupid thing
Idk man, both are stupid and you shouldn't be doing either

>passion
We're literally shitposting on an American grease squeezing forum. It's called having fun.

>Want to guess what safety features I don't have on my table saw?
Oh right, an ultimate idiot test - a riving knife

bossman takes the guard off because he's a cheap ass uses seven inch blades

still have my fingers

>>2945320 (OP)
What a stupid meme, there's no good reason to remove it.

>>2951088
the "good reason" to take the guard off is I'm not a pussy bitch like you.

>>2951104
Imagine being such a fragile, insecure manbaby that you have to deliberately remove parts of a machine to make you feel more masculine.

its like deciding you have to sprinkle some ground glass on your lunch to "own the libs" or something equally fucking retarded.

>>2951116
People like that SHOULD be encouraged to remove the guard. Don't wear protective eyewear either, what are you a faggot? Suck any dicks in your way to Home Depot?

https://www.osha.gov/ords/imis/AccidentSearch.search?p_logger=1&acc_description=&acc_Abstract=&acc_keyword=grinder&sic=&naics=&Office=All&officetype=All&endmonth=10&endday=15&endyear=2002&startmonth=10&startday=15&startyear=2026&InspNr=

I don't use a guard but accidents do happen. Respect your tools' power, bros

>>2951125
Fucking waste of oxygen

>>2945320 (OP)
Ja pierdole, retard

>>2945516
That is one fat grinder son

>>2945320 (OP)
I like to keep my face in tact. My cut off wheel grinder is the only one with the guard still on it. Flap discs, grinding disks, and so on, no guard.

>>2946170
Survivor bias.

>>2951813
You're batty. Discs stay integrated far more often than they explode; even if grinder guards disappeared forever tomorrow, there would still be a relatively few number of disc fragmentation accidents.

>>2951129
if they pulled that out, would he die?

>>2951974
It may be a mild discomfort

>subsentient shitjeets itt thinking that lacking the intelligence to understand safety and risk makes them manly
Don't you have trains to walk next to?

>>2951129
>unforgiven
just mad him mad

>>2945516
how many jews can it handle at once?

>>2945320 (OP)
>angle grinder
what can I do with it?
>t. nefwag who never used an angle grinder

>>2952744
Cut angles

>>2952744
Mostly cut and grind metal. They're integral for welding and metalworking you'll never find a welder who doesn't own like 3 of them

>>2951974
FOR YOU!