Thread 2948988

I want to start a business. And none of these retarded apprenticeships please, I don't need 2-3 years tagging along someone to paint well enough for a 6 figure business

House painting probably had the most random gadgets out of all trades to do a good job reliably and always get it done
>teach me this skill in a 4chan shitpost
Your heart is in the right place but you're literally ngmi

>>2948989
So what, Are you just saying I should hoof it and offer free interior paintings on Fb marketplace learning from the internet until I gain enough experience to start paying people seriously and assuredly. I mean it seems viable, but free house paintings are fucking nuts man.

>>2948989
>House painting probably had the most random gadgets out of all trades
this has to be bait

>>2948991
Try painting one of your rooms, see what you struggle with, try to fix it, and then do another room.
YouTube is useful.
You can always try working for someone for a year, then bounce to start your business.
My father in law spent most of his working years painting and it messed up his already weak knees, it's a lot more work than it looks.

>>2948991
no, offer paid painting. fucking mexicans do it, housewives do it, idk why your dumb ass can't do it. just put "painter" in your ad and not "professional painter" so people don't complain.

it's simple you buy paint buy a brush and a roller, buy a roller tray, brush around everything then roller out the walls. rinse everything buy another paint and repeat.

>>2949007
B-but what if I mess up?

>>2949013
they don't pay you. also, tape is your friend until you learn to cut in without tape. the job is sanding and then smearing liquid on a wall. try to keep a wet edge, blah blah watch a fuking utube video it's not rocket science.

>>2949013
Fixing your mistakes is part of how you learn. That's why you don't rush, prep, and you do your do diligence on your products and process.

Painting is a litmus test for what kind of a worker a person can be.

>>2948988 (OP)
You can't just look at someone painting long enough to see how it's done well enough to understand the basic concept?
Paint comes in cans or buckets. It has to go on various surfaces. There are only so many ways to get it there.
Pick one of those ways and practice.

>>2948988 (OP)
Just buy mis-tints for cheap and paint a room in your house repeatedly until you're good and then convince people to pay you to do it to their house

>>2948988 (OP)
I learned that while helping out a friend who bought an old house and need hole filled and repaint. He foot the bill and I just dress up in rags and be there to do half of the labor. Shit took 1 month of afterwork time+trials and error+going autistic on details because he is also new to everything. I think as a business more focus needs to put on schedules and planning, half of the time the night is wasted because some walls are not ready for the next step.

>>2949134
this but skip the first half. also get a compressor and a paint sprayer and be a GOD.

>>2949295
Paint spraying is for retards who can't paint

>>2949311
as long as the fucking job gets done, why does it matter?

Get some paint and brushes and tape and paint some boards. You'll be okay.

>>2949311
Easier on the arms on some jobs.

>>2948988 (OP)
>I don't need 2-3 years tagging along someone to paint well enough for a 6 figure business
But you will need 2-3 years of youtube tutorials though to learn the 90% of the job that doesn't involve applying paint. Doesn't help that the EPA ruined paint either so good luck with that.

Literally just find a room to paint. The only difference between DIY and professional painting is having the experience to do it faster and figuring out all the cool tricks to avoid fuckups. Do a room in your house to see what it's like. Ask around friends/family/coworkers if they need anything painted and offer to do it for pocket change and beers. Put out an ad for cheap painting services on faceberg. When you start feeling confident call yourself a professional and charge more.

Whoever painted my apartment sure didn't know what they were doing. There's paint on the floor, paint on doorknobs...

>>2949317
Would you want a retard with a paint sprayer in your house? Give me an artist who can control speed of the brush, the flow of the paint, the texture of the finish with the lightest movement of the wrist over paying some retard a thousand bucks to just cover everything in wrap and switch a machine on every time.

>>2948988 (OP)
You'd be better off learning to panel walls than paint. Most people these days go for some kind of internal panelling over painting for a better finish

>>2948988 (OP)
Seems like all the people I know who did painting for a living were all meth heads. Are you a meth head?

>>2949317
Spray drifts and falls to the ground as dust. You have to mask everything. It's beast for ceilings, exterior, drywall primer, and isolated items. If you start spraying in a full house, you're taking risks.

Plus a lot of guys are just going to spray and walk away. Painters that do things correctly spend a lot of prep time sanding walls, filling trim, sanding between coats. They'll crosshatch their spray pattern or spray and backroll. If they spray with a shield, they're doing a slap together job not high detail.

>>2949453
Wallpaper is a trendy and lost skill. Microcement or plaster. Venetian plaster. Making deco molding. I'd look into these for side gig work that you can make bills doing.

>>2949452
>Would you want a retard with a paint sprayer in your house?

Yes if he gets my damn walls painted

>>2949453
too much physical labor i have bad knees

>>2949521
As long as the customers pay me a few hundred and have no complaints

>>2949383
It's 2025. I'm an average man. I don't own a house with rooms to paint. I dont have friends or family or coworkers whos house i can paint in. The best i can do right now is volunteer with habitat for humanity and help them out with paint jobs. On facebook group, Should I tell them im inexperienced and simply trying to gain experience.

>>2949005
im currently rated by the va for weak knees from years of oversitting

>>2948988 (OP)
Lots of youtube channels (and tiktok and other shit if you want) that teaches you everything, lots of pro and amateur (and often useless) tricks. Picrel is one of them, a simple way to paint corners without relying on tape and all that shit. It's good enough to paint my house.

>>2948988 (OP)
YouTube has some good channels. Idaho Painter is one. But shortcut your learning curve by getting and reading some good books on the subject. Don Aslett, who had a cleaning company and line of products was a painter before he was a cleaner. He wrote several good short books on cleaning (Clean in a minute) and one on painting that include advise on starting a cleaning or painting business. Home Depot has a line of home improvement books that are good and a couple on painting. One of those books is about decorative painting, which is its own specialty and involves using paint to create faux finishes that look like marble, stone, plaster, wood, and a lot more. I’m sure if you go to your local library you’ll find several good books on painting. Read up then apply what you learn to make it real. Also, learn what makes good quality paint and good quality tools. You’ll need to be able to explain to a customer why you recommend a particular product and what to avoid. There are a lot of bad painters out there and unscrupulous ones that will put crap paint on a wall to undercut other painters, but wind up with dissatisfied customers and give painters a bad name. Oh and that’s another thing… painting is the easy part. The hard part is in the prep, and that includes in some cases undoing messes created by others. I the previous owner in my own home was some crazy lady that thought just slapping paint on surfaces was good enough; she left so many damn runs all over the trim and walls it took me a fair amount of effort to sand everything down.

>>2949574
>The best i can do right now is volunteer with habitat for humanity and help them out with paint jobs.
If that option is available to you then go for it. You shouldn't need to to get started out, but it sounds like you need to build some confidence first and volunteering at least gives you some excuse when you fuck up.

it's literally this easy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H83S2a1h37g

Hardest parts of painting;
Cutting in
Glosswork

Invest in good brushes, good cleaning solvents and a good cleaning reigmen.

Use a paint conditioner, the correct type for oil based paints, for your glosswork. Gloss can have you chasing your tail back and forth trying to get the brushstrokes out and will eat a bunch of your time if you take the profession on with no experience.

The rest of it you can basically be a total spaz as long as you've got stamina but the cutting in and gloss work techniques are what will make you efficient & set apart your work.

>>2949633
>they don't want you to know this hack
https://youtu.be/T9MAmWnOznI

>>2948988 (OP)
>i want to start a business doing something i have no idea how to do

>>2949659
How can loan shark make money in this trying time?

>>2949659
I also hope they don't think it's ez-mode because it's "just painting", because that stuff is as just as exhausting and more so than any of the other construction trades. I hope you don't think it's ez-mode, OP, because it's an excrutiating labor in and of itself as well.

>>2949691
Stacy Homeowner can walk right over to any finish trade make a huge fuss or without payment. At least with the mechanical trades they can just hide things in the walls and make it work.

I hate painting so damn much.

>>2948988 (OP)
>I don't need 2-3 years
Only way to make 6 figs is to paint new constructions, which entails sanding, patching, vacuuming, priming, painting, caulking.
What grit you gonna use for pine vs mdf?
How do you get paint stains out of oak finished with a water based eurethane?
How do you disappear a water stain?
How do you bid competitively and make money?
How do you handle a contractor not paying your quote due to offsetting damages?

>>2949762
The setup, sanding taping filling, product knowledge, getting people to pick out a damn color are annoying. Once the paint is actually moving it's pretty nice.

how do you get shit off the walls
someone put this textured patterned crap over the paint it's like wallpaper but not paper just applied like plasterish but shimmery

>>2949659
>i want to start a business doing something i have no idea how to do
Not just that, but make 6 figures doing it
OP is not cut out for this world and will soon be eaten

>>2951112
Scrape it off, or throw up a fresh 3/8" drywall layer. It's about the same amount of work either way.

>>2949458
This OP.. Ya gotta start with the basics here
>>2949574
>>2949602
Realistically/non-shitposting though, this is great advise/a great idea. Habitat always has pros there, and is a great way to learn a number of construction skills. Yeah it's basic; but it's free, ya do something good, and there are competent folks around who will gladly teach ya those basics. Especially for what you wanna do (which I suspect you won't; unless you have the confidence, bravery, and liquidity to aquire the supplies you'll need) this could be a great learning/jumping off opportunity.

>>2949691
>>2950094
>>2951126

Right..
>how do it start a successful business
-skill that OP doesn't currently possess
>by doing -skill-
-that OP ALSO doesn't currently possess

I mean idk, one of my neighbors did create a successful painting/finishing business, but she's got balls of steel and had adequate capital to get it rolling..

I'm actually deeply impressed by it and she deserves credit for building something from nothing, but that shit is not easy

>>2951176
Lol..
>how do I* start..

>>2949311
e.g. i.e. OP?

>>2949574
>The best i can do right now is volunteer with habitat for humanity
Fuck that. The best you can do right now is start charging people to paint their're fucking houses. You think mandy mortgage gives a fuck if you have experience or references? She doesn't fucking know how to paint, she doesn't know you don't either. God damn son you think every Guatemalan who gets on a paint crew KNOWS HOW TO PAINT like it's some ethnically indoctrinated skill? No they just start painting and get paid. Are you going to find people who want assurances, guarantees, and proof of experience? Sure, of course. THOSE AREN'T YOUR CUSTOMERS. one day you'll learn they never will be and be thankful. The rest, the ones who don't know to ask, who didn't read the lease or the mortgage paperwork or whatever? Yeah thei will pay you with NO CLUE what you're capable of, so STFU and go buy some tarps and buckets and shit. Don't buy the paint yet (protip). Then start looking sour people desperate enough or cheap enough to not ask too many questions because they are fucking out there.

Or just stop being a cuck and paint your own apartment. Do it in eggshell beige just like it is now, who's going to know?

>>2949295
>spend days masking up something would take 2 hours to paint with a brush a roller.
learn how 2 cut in bro

>>2949311
I’d like to see you do doors in a gloss without a sprayer.

>>2949589
That doesn’t work retard. Clearly you’ve never painted a day in your life life, otherwise you’d know that a brush and roller are all you need

>>2949311
this guy rolls cabinet paint