Thread 2952805

is there any benefit to a wood stove/pellet stove if i already have a gas furnace and im only paying $3.60/mcf

i cant imagine after the hidden expenses of wood (stacking, drying, splitting, hauling) it comes out ahead vs a literal pipe that delivers gas into a furnace. the only exception is if you are a britbong or a eurofag with insane energy prices

i do think they are comfy af but id rather get a fireplace for the aesthetics at that point.

>>2952805 (OP)
>wood stove
Works during a blackout. Nothing more romantic then cuddling on a rug in front of a fire. Flickering of flames are helluva soothing.

>pellet stove
Flickering flames. That's it. They need electricity to run a fan to keep the pellets burning. This means they also make noise. Their only upside is you are basically recycling scraps.

we heat our home with 3 wood stoves. one in the great room, one in master bedroom and our kitchen stove/oven is wood fired.

I bought 2 cords of wood in 2022. since then I have not paid for wood. I now collect wood from downed trees and property maintenance at jobsites. I had never used wood to heat prior to 2022.

even with my "free" wood, I would say it does not necessarily save money. most wood needs 2 years to season properly. elm is 50% of my gather. it is low BTU and high ash production and does not split with an axe/maul. I still don't have a hydraulic splitter. the cost of (new) one is equal to 3 years of GRID power heat-pump, or 1 year of propane heat. then you factor in time, wear on tools, truck, trailer, tires and body. to further devalue the "savings" of wood heat, our house runs on 80% solar power, from a cash-paid DIY installed system. despite that, we still look forward to wood fire season.

this post gives me anxiety. over 1/2 of my wood has not yet been cut to stove length. we do plan to use our heat pumps a lot more this year, since we doubled the size of our solar system.

There is ZERO reason to get a woodstove (other than aesthetics and comfyness) if you have a gas utility. Natural gas furnaces is still the absolute cheapest period once you factor in the labor and TIME. The TIME is Z E R O on a gas furnace.

The only scenarios wood/pellet stoving makes sense:

1. you are on oil heat (i.e., ruralfag with no gas utility)
2. you are on propane (i.e., ruralfag with no gas utility)
3. you are a ruralfag with no gas utility.
4. you live in new england where the gas bills are stupid high for some reason

if you live anywhere else, midwest, south, etc, natural gas still beats out wood

>i turn on the furnace
>the furnace starts and stops itself
>nothing stops a trane

wood is "free" but retards who dont understand this thing called TIME VALUE OF MONEY ignore the fact you have to put insane amounts of TIME and LABOR to make it work.

That said, there is an argument for getting one AS A BACKUP if you are a paranoid prepper fag. thats about it.

>>2952847
yeah i live in maine and its the cheapest way to heat. We'll also have a noreasters or ice storms every few years that'll knock down power for a few days, so it's nice peace of mind for frozen pipes.

>>2952979
Is natural gas expensive in maine or just not a lot of gas utilities?

>>2953004
what natural gas heat source save for those silly vain flame bar fake woodstoves works when the powers out?

>>2953005
Then why not a gas furnace for the 98% of the time the power's on and a backup stove for the 2%

>>2953006
go shill nordstreem7 somewhere else
me and the cats is goona keep sweating all winter

>>2953007
not pictured: hauling wood around 300+ times a season

at least be based and use those wood bricks

>>2953010
chop wood carry water

>>2953007

why do you keep your thunderbucket next to the stove? is it like a poopourri thing? eau de scat? what are you eating? I'm worried aboot your gut health, Anon. you gotta work on your hover-aim.

my take on home heating appliances is generally the more the merrier
if you want a stove get a stove, it wont hurt
maybe gas prices will go up and youll want a cheaper option who knows
an open fireplace isnt the best option with modern hvac it will cause you to lose a ton of heat out the chimney and end up costing more to heat the house
if you just want ambiance maybe a gas fireplace would be a good option?

>>2953144
this
its not either/or

you can have a TRANEtm furnace and also a

Paid about 450 for my 4 cords or wood since I didnt have time this summer to go out and cut some logs in the woods. Took me about 4 days of splitting and stacking.
First year with the stove since I had to redo the flue and chimney so we'll see how long it'll last since my wife likes it a nice 73ish degrees inside.

how often you guys clean out your chimney

>>2952805 (OP)
Im at €28/mcf so I used the wood stove a lot but it’s just nice heat, cozy/romantic, it’s way faster than the more efficient low-energy gas heating we have. Be away for a week with the heating off and in an hours the entire house is nice and warm. It’s nice to look at too. It’s not our primary heating but I happily do the ‘work’ to run it evening in winter. Also

> i cant imagine after the hidden expenses of wood (stacking, drying, splitting, hauling)
I got my winter supply last week. 2 cords kiln dried, took exactly one saturday afternoon. Supplier guy dumps it in trailer with forklift, I pay him, drive it home and stack it. Every other weekend I move about 30-50 logs inside, takes maybe 15 minutes. Start the stove around 5.30 and let it burn out around 11

Fireplaces let a lot more smoke in your house when starting up.

>>2953340
Once a year because mandatory for fire insurance. Mines a metal pipe though they need a lot less maintenance than brick chimneys afaik

Theres no way I'd be able to legally do a wood stove here or to use it more than 5 minutes a day without turning this apartment into an oven but I still want one.

>>2952847
I have heaps of dead trees on the property. By processing them into firewood, I'm cleaning up a mess. Plus splitting firewood is enjoyable for me, good exercise too.

>>2952847
My gas furnace is newish but it's hooked up to an inefficient old bitch of a baseboard heater system so I've been burning firelogs in the (even older) wood stove to try and alleviate the workload on it a bit
It's like one firelog a day, i use them instead of actual wood because the chimney was last swept in the 1950s so I'd rather not add any more creosote to it

>>2956269
>the chimney was last swept in the 1950s so I'd rather not add any more creosote to it
you know its not rocket appliances to clean your fucking chimney so you dont burn your shot down? its just a big wire brush on the end of a stick you jerk off until no more shit falls out the bottom
t. cleans the chimney 3x a year

>>2956272
I can't see into the chimney because the fireplace has some sort of convoluted path that the air takes to go up into the black pipe which then goes into the wall (and chimney)
I say 50s cause i asked grandma and she said her dad was the last to sweep it, i presume when the wood fireplace/stove/whatever was being installed

I fired my garage stove for the 1st time this year. Thankfully uneventful and currently toasty.

>>2952847
5. new gas heating installations no longer legal in my state thanks to its commitment to net zero

>>2952838
Doesn't elm smell like piss when it burns?

>>2952847
Everyone else hate-raped you, so I might as well get sloppy thirds:

You are an unenlightened central-education industrially-schooled mannequin.

Wood fire heat affects a White man's biology deeply. It's soothing, and the near IR/IR, penetrates down to the bone, literally a power source for mitochondrial energy factories. It improves healing and health. The phenols given off by the wood also enhance immunity.

A remote gas furnace in a basement doesn't do that. It warms the air - that's about it, professor.