Thread 18506517

/btg/ BOOT GENERAL - SOLOVAIRS EDITION

What do I need to care for my boots?
>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)
>Horsehair brush ($10-15)
>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)
>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bck4/renovateur
>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP
>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them and rest them

How do I deal with x stain?
>mud: allow it to dry then brush off
>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible
>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper
>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush

>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?
No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.
>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're good
no. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.
>Are Thursdays any good?
no.

Manufacturer Red Flags
>Luxury
>Bespoke
>Sustainable
>Vegan
>Unknown leather source
>Made in Chyna/Mexico/Indonesia

Boot Red Flags
>Dainite (Get vibram v-bar instead)
>C*rk/C*lastic
>Zippers
>Non gusseted tongues
>Excessive/unnecessary seams
>Combination/mixed material heels

Boot Brands NO
>Turdsdays
>Doc Shitters/Soloshitters
>any Whatsapp makers in the far east

PREV>>18492045

Chink boondockers should be here in 3 weeks. They're going to be my go to summer boot. I only wish I could have gotten natural horween roughout, but hopefully light brown kudu roughout will be close enough.

>>18506517 (OP)
Teal color is a gay feminist color.

>>18506517 (OP)
Conditioned my mocs. They're looking less thirsty.
>>18506568
Agreed teal looks bad

>>18506566
>in three weeks
>right when summer ends
> I only wish I could have gotten natural horween roughout
can they truly be boondockers if they aren't made of natural roughout? next you'll tell me yours are structured at the toes too

Any good quality derbies that don't cost a months rent?

>>18506576
Summer ends in January and starts in March.

>>18506575
you sick fuck are you wearing the same sock as last week

>>18506517 (OP)
So you got a pair uneven with the tongue slightly off? They’re handcrafted so that happens time to time

>>18506577
Checked dubs but how much is your rent? That really determines how much purchasing power you have shoe wise.
>>18506580
They both match this time i swear. Also I did laundry so they are clean.

>>18506575

Are mocs actually a decent everyday shoe in your opinion, debating between them and a pair of derbies for my everyday shoe

>>18506593
his are true mocs which are based af and out of your price range

>>18506593
mocs are not made for the streets unless they have a chunky sole

>>18506579
summer never ends

>>18506595

these seem nice

https://www.llbean.ca/llb/shop/1000261431.html?pla1=0&gQT=1

>>18506593
I would say so. I wear these when I'm not wearing boots and they are pretty comfortable all day. I do work in an office so I'm not exactly hitting the streets every day but whenever I travel i usually rotate these in and your feet start to hurt after mile 10 of tourism but by that time I'm usually in bed for the night.
>>18506594
They were only like 200 at quoddy for a black Friday sale. So not unattainable. If you treat them right they will serve you well. They do skew a little old man core but I don't mind personally. I usually pair them with raw denim and a white shirt (surprise) or an oxford if I feel fancy

>>18506577
Check out Skolyx, they just released a couple of new/old derby styles by Yanko. I'm going to buy a pair this weekend. Though if you're in the states you'll have to pay customs so maybe not as good a deal for you.
Beckett simonen have some derbies too.

Thoughts? What could go wrong if they’re “production training”? Does this boot look odd in any capacity?

I asked chatgpjeet what size to get for a certain boot based on the sizes i wear in other brands and the entire response was hallucinated bullshit
it said the iron ranger is a narrow fit with a snug toebox (bullshit)
it said the moc toe was wide and roomy (bullshit, it's notoriously narrow) and a bunch of other garbage
it straight up just hallucinated everything lmao

i've been into gyw boots for probably a decade now and own way too many boots but the only boots that interest me anymore are red wings

>>18506832
It looks a little weird but I think it's just English sensibilities rather than anything wrong with it. It's probably just made by a newbie or they're testing new equipment since good bootmaking machines are all 1000 plus years old.

>>18506832
that photo likely isn't the actual boot
you'll probably see some strangeness since it effectively a seconds pair but it shouldn't be too stange

Check out Viberg's insta story. Brett calling out OSB and their shady founder who used to work for Viberg and stole their designs

>>18506875
>>18506876
hivemind. i didn't even read the thread before posting

interesting thing about OSB is they are obviously liquidating their stock for some reason
the storm boot, which is a viberg 2030 clone (because they literally stole the pattern) is usually 650 and they're dumping the stock and selling it for 325

>>18506879
they're obviously domping eeeet before the FTC hammer comes down on them

>>18506877
Cap toes look good idc

>>18506880
they are selling everything they can because they know the FTC is gonna fine them unto bankruptcy and they're trying to cash out while they can
OSB is finished

>>18506877
grim. nigs, not even once

>>18506883
Can this be fixed/prevented with a shoe tree or does the steel force the leather to wrinkle

>>18506898
what the fuck are you talking about, retard?

>>18506898
it is a lasting issue and cannot be fixed. They failed to apply equal pressure all around during the lasting which is what causes the lateral creasing

anyone own red wing moc toes? how the fuck do i size these?
i tried half down in D (same size as my IRs, which fit wide) and they pinched my toes
i'm seeing people say go full down and up a width but i'm not sure

>>18506907
definitely up in width, they are very narrow around where the plug meets the uppers

>>18506901
>Wrinkles = crease or moisture,
>”I like toe caps” responded to with “look at this wrinkle”
>ask if toe caps cause wrinkle
>”wtf are you talking about”
>>18506902
So, this isn’t a problem inherent to toe caps and the boot just got constructed wrong? Or does the toe make it harder to make the pressure equal

>>18506911
i think i'll do EE instead of D, but should i do down 1/2 and EE or down full and EE?

I'm in between sizes. Brannock, and two different laser scans have be between an 8.5 and 9 on my right foot and between 8 and 8.5 on my left foot

>>18506915
half size down

>>18506914
its a combined issue nigs caps have always looked bad and the poor lasting has made it even worse

>>18506879
>>18506884
lmao
should we thank vince for the fire sale?

>>18506943
now that more info has come out, i actually think it was brett viberg that snitched because he was butthurt his former shop manager went to oak street and took his last and patterns with him which oak street then used to make a clone of his boot for half the price
brett is a fucking retard through and through so it wouldn't surprise me

>>18506944
doesn't vince know brett well?
I feel like brett bitched and vince snitched

>>18506953
i'm sure they go way back from when brett told vince to fuck off and stop copying his boots back when truman just made viberg copies in the early days

>>18506734
Thanks, went with the black Tyroler a full size down, if they fit these will be perfect. Other comparable shoes are almost twice as much.

recommend me an alternative to solovair for everyday use, black color. i had been using the astronaut 6 eye boot, i am open to go with 8 eyes as well

>>18507055
Dr Martens.

How do I become a cobbler?

>>18506879
aww yiss

>>18507115
You have two options, apprentice at a cobbler shop to learn the trade, or become self taught

>>18506877
Lol
>>18506879
Should I cop or do you think they will get cheaper in the future?

Red wings today. Maybe 6 months. Id like to get another pair at some point.

OSB rebuttal to viberg. Big nothing and a product tease.

https://www.reddit.com/r/goodyearwelt/s/cQNLCBARxv

>>18507602
>le quirky snark at the end
what a bunch of faggots

>>18507603
Yeah that was cringe.

>>18507115
I look looked into it but it's not worth it
The trade is dying because 1) no one can afford nice shoes anymore and 2) people don't get things repaired, they just throw them away
All that to make 30-40k a year

>>18507082
Strictly shittier solovairs at a comparable price

>>18507602
>they didn't deny their boots aren't made overseas

>>18507602
their reply was very obviously written by AI. god, they're such fucking retards

>>18507439
>Red wings today. Maybe 6 months. Id like to get another pair at some point.

Do you really need to size down on certain red wing boots or is sizing down just a meme of the past pushed due to insecurity of their feet looking big rather than the shoes actually fitting big?

Just asking because I have a pair of postman's in my regular size I get access most brands of shoes/sneakers and they fit great

>>18507723
>Do you really need to size down on certain red wing boots
yes, on all of them pretty much.
boots always run large. and you gotta remember, whatever your shoe size is in sneakers, that's not your real shoe size. so what you assume is your "real" size, because it's what you wore all your life, is not accurate. if you wear 10 in nikes or something, doesn't mean your feet are size 10
anyway, yeah, size down

>>18507018
No prob. Just ordered the dark brown myself.

>>18507439
>Should I cop or do you think they will get cheaper in the future?
If you have normal size feet get them now. Boots that get discounted further are for shoulder sizes and slow-selling ugly ones that people don't want.

>>18506877
The more I see them, the more I dislike cap toe + stitchdown combination in general. The bulky seam is so ugly. With clarks here, the seam is not that pronounced. There wouldn't be this problem if you just handwelt.
These offshot PNW makers stand on shoulders of giant. The old bootmakers probably have a reason for doing things the way the did, even if it's for aesthetic. These new guys are not bootmakers themselves, they don't truly understand bootmaking at its core. They never stop to really think if these new "inventions" make sense or not.

>>18506877
It's not even double layer cap toe. Is it really that difficult to just redo the cap toe when they realize they fucked it up? No way they didn't see that before they sent it out but they just said fuck it.

>>18507830
the overlaping joint is laughable

>>18507838
yeah its a two stage problem 1. bad lasting 2. bad QC

LAST CHANCE

>>18508053
Is horsehide actually any better than cowhide though? Seen many pairs in horsehide that have chromexcel type creasing and loose grain. Horsebutt? Based. Cordovan? Based. Horsehide? Not so sure.

>>18508133
i think its always a gamble with hormeme but my pair turned out great, but it definitely is some of the most boring and flattest looking horse on the market

>>18508147
The nondescript “horsehide” that were offered by baker, nicks, wesco are chromexcel horse strip, so of course they age like cow chromexcel.

I've got these Red Wing Blacksmith in black spitfire which is waxed roughout. I guess they were a limited edition thing
I got them back in 2017 and the right boot is too tight so I never wore them so they're basically brand new lmao
I can't bring myself to get rid of them

>>18508331
still an improvement over cow desu

Don’t really know a whole lot about fashion but I’m looking to build a basic wardrobe with all the essentials to start. What’s a good boot for both casual and business casual settings, preferably for year round wear if possible? It snows and rains for half the year. I’m white collar so it doesn’t have to be a work boot. Preferably not $500 or whatever since I’m still a beginner

>>18508542
chelseas

>>18508542
>What’s a good boot for both casual and business casual settings, preferably for year round wear if possible? It snows and rains for half the year
White's semi dress
>Preferably not $500 or whatever since I’m still a beginner
you don't really get to set a low price with all the requirements you have. either drop the requirements or increase your budget especially considering you know (by your own claim) nothing about boots so how can you dictate price?

>>18508549
Okay, I’m willing to drop whatever requirements that aren’t compatible with each other if that helps makes things cheaper. What if I’m willing to buy 2 or 3 pairs for different purposes over time? I was thinking I’d need one in brown and one in black anyway

I want some cowboy boots podna

>>18508587
honk honk

I finally went through my closet and it's time to get rid of all the boots and shoes I don't wear
Getting rid of a pair of Whites MPs, Red Wing Blacksmiths, Carmina loafers, Cheaney loafer and Meermin derbies
I think I can get 1k for them all when it's all said and done
If you had 1k to spend on boots (or shoes) what would you get?

>>18508649
I don’t know I don’t really need more boots. I’d buy some raw denims. Iron hearts 17oz duck 634s and a TCB cats drive jacket.

>>18508554
you'd want to buy multiple regardless just to rotate them and make them last twice as long

>>18508649
damn

meanwhile i kept using the same pair of solovairs every single day until they completely broke

>>18508053
Sus. Not that I care. The only situation in which I would insist on horsehide is on dress shoes (not boots) and it's only shell, but that's just me. Everything else I almost prefer cow/steer.

>>18508376
Why is it too tight? Is the whole "size down" thing with red wing boots just a meme? Like how people always pushed siizng down with raw denim to factor for stretch, when that advice just came from a time when skinny/slim jeans was the desired look

>>18508694
>Is the whole "size down" thing with red wing boots just a meme?
It's for people that don't know what their actual shoe size is and insist on ordering their apparel online.

>>18508694
My right boot is tighter than the left despite the boots being the same size. My Iron Rangers which are built on the same last in the same size don't have this issue
I think I just got a bad pair but they were a sale pair so I couldn't return or exchange them
Granted, my right foot is almost half a size larger than my left (pretty much everyone has a bigger foot if they measured), but my Iron Rangers fitting proves the issue is the boot, not my choice of sizing

>>18508376
damn look at those flippers

>>18508713
>Ever ordering clothing that you can't return

>>18508542
Red Wing Beckman.

>>18508554
for one you're not really going to get a sole that is both great performers in snow and looks business casual. there are certain sole options like recessed commands where the lugs are not visible from a side profile but they perform less than non recessed

>>18509023
What is the point of a dressy boot if you can’t even use it when the weather is a bit harsh?

>>18509055
many on /btg/ are impractical fags who think lugs are ugly.
your foot wear needs to do you for walking outdoors above all else.
Lugs are for men.
loafers/Thin/flat/Leather soles are for poofters, simple as.

>>18506517 (OP)
know of any techwear boots anyone?

>recreate Japanese ww2 boot that was built as cheaply as humanly possible
>that'll be 900 USD
why

>>18509065
>learning disability formatting
Such a valuable opinion. No one needs more lug than a Vibram 430 unless they're actually doing work outdoors or hiking in steep muddy conditions. Don't bother replying, you fucking mouthbreather.

>>18509154
gee probably because the original had a gigantic industrial machine behind it making cheap manufacturing possible which no longer exists? dumbass

>>18509154
because there's gonna be suckers who'll buy them the same suckers who will also pretend and not acknowledge the fact that the japs were worst than the germans when it came to war crimes

>>18509154
Gotta pay the Rose Anvil tax

>>18509180
Try to have sex and maybe touch some grass before you post here again
>>18509190
>>18509192
Still though you'd imagine they wouldn't be so blatant about it by selling it for the exact same price as their m43 boots which isn't built in the most simple way possible using the cheapest materials.
>worst than the germans when it came to war crimes
Not too difficult though seeing how Germans committed probably the least war crimes.

>>18509521
600 dollars plus tip

Any thoughts on Timberlands? The prices seem pretty alright and I'd like just a whatever boot that is comfortable enough for walking around for a few hours each day.

>>18509531
As long as you think of them as a disposable boot, then go for it

>>18509533
Yeah I don't really figure any shoes or boots will last for life, so if they're comfortable and will last 1-2 years, I would be very happy.

>>18509535
>Yeah I don't really figure any shoes or boots will last for life
I have a pair of White's semi dress collar stamped production date 2017

>>18509535
A resoleable shoe can absolutely last for life.

>>18509554
>>18509557
Of course, but I mean something that isn't more on the special side and is just regular from a store stuff. I have some good resoleable boots already but I'd like to have something that is cheap, comfortable and I can scuff up for about 2 years without giving a shit.

>>18509561
I doubt timbs will make it two years

>>18509564
They're that bad? Any other reccs in the same price point then? I'm in Australia, so my options might be more limited. Blundstones feel like shit and RM Williams are too expensive for being treated like shit.

>>18509554
most of my boots are from 2017/2018 but i rotate them and they never get worn during the summer so they're all still in good shape

>>18509580
I have no clue about the monopoly dollar situation but jim green make very affordable and durable boots.

>>18509581
the glue fails occasionally if there are swings in temperature during seasons

>>18509599
boot are glued to hold the pieces in place and then stitched to keep them from falling apart
i don't care about muh glue because i do not buy cheap shoes

>>18509620
>he thinks the stitches in timbs are real
oh nonononono

>>18508542
>Preferably not $500 or whatever
If youre getting into boots it will be beneficial to start thinking about them in a similar category as phones and other big purchases. For phones, if you want an actually good phone from a good brand (apple, google, samsung, whoever makes good phones), most people accept you are looking at a ~$1000 purchase give or take a few hundred. Sure, you can get a $200 phone that works and can send messages and use apps, but you will notice the quality difference compared to an iPhone and so will other people. When it comes to boots, yes if youre used to buying shoes for $80 then $500 seems like a lot, but its actually not when you understand what youre buying. 300 is about the absolute lowest you can possibly go and get a boot still considered good and not the phone equivilent of a burner. For example Oak Street Bootmakers is currently selling their Storm Boot for 50% off (650 down to 325). This is an example of the cheapest decent boot you should be looking at. Otherwise, the low end of “actually good boots” is going to be something like Redwing, which usually is $400 for the type of boot youre looking for.

>>18509724
>>18508542
That being said, if you really just want something boot shaped that you can wear for like a year and see if its your style, sure you can get the Thursday Captain for 200. You might have noticed the OP says dont buy Thursday Boots. Why does it say that? Because they are shit, but they *are* shaped like a boot and probably better than something like Doc Martins. Better yet, get a pair of used Redwing Beckmans for ~200 on ebay, preferably from a seller that allows returns if they dont work. If they dont have a return window, make sure you know your boot size (its not the same as your sneakers).

>>18509535
>if they're comfortable and will last 1-2 years, I would be very happy.
The rule of thumb I go by is assume the boots fall apart the minute the warranty expires and ask yourself if that minimum amount of time (usually 1 year) is worth what you're paying for. If the boots make it that long, I'd say you got your money's worth and have little to complain about when you toss them.

>>18509557
>A resoleable shoe can absolutely last for life
Not without patching the worn upper. Even then, the major limiting factor for your Shitkickers of Theseus is the condition of the insole which will give out eventually if the footwear is worn with any regularity. Most cobbler shops will tell you that they're toast because replacing an insole is effectively rebuilding the entire boot.

A good rec for a good pair of black leather boots?

Not necessarily "heritage", heavy, chunky or bulky. Just good looking and properly built.

>>18509557
Resoleability is grossly overvalued in here. Good cobblers are a dying breed and even renowned ones are a coinflip on whether they fuck up your boot or not.

>>18509950
For sure, if you live in America, Canada or any other third world shithole.

>>18509950
I am learning how to cobble shoes myself. I have been watching Steve from Bedos and Dan the Cobbler and, rarely, Tr*nton and He*th, as well as watching Japanese bespoke makers make shoes. Been watching them for years, I think I know everything that goes into it, all I need is the tools
I'm gonna do it

eu bros, which one should I cop?
https://redwingamsterdam.com/products/8084-iron-ranger-black-harness?variant=33671139721352
https://berwickshoes.com/gb/2369-k2-box-calf-black.html
I already have 2 pair of boots so I'd like to diversify a bit, but I like the look of these

>>18509965
None, get a pair of Officine Creative if you're European, you dumb tasteless redditor.

>>18509965
Get the derbies. Every man should have at least one pair of derbies. They can go with pretty much anything. They can be dressed up or dressed down, and won't look massive like boots either.

>>18509970
>Officine Creative
they have some of the ugliest shit i've ever seen, not going to lie to you
>>18509971
yeah I think so too

>>18509971
that thing on the far right looks so shitty
i hate AI generated fitslop
the other three are acceptable but not great

>>18509977
>they have some of the ugliest shit i've ever seen
Amazing that you could check hundreds and hundreds of models in five minutes

your brand qualifies as "slop" if there are hundreds of models available, like a restaurant with a five page menu

>>18509988
why do I have to check all their models if a glance at their catalogue tells me roughly what they're selling? not sure why this offends you. just don't like them. maybe they do have some good models but I'm not so inclined to browse their whole repertoire

>>18509990
so whites?
they have a bunch of models

>>18509971
you can't really dress up lugs but that's fine, they're a great alternative to sneakers or boots

>>18509950
Not if you live in a country where people can afford clothes.

>>18509993
>can't even read the name of the company out loud cause he's a monolingual brainlet
>shits on the entire company
Many such cases

>>18509990
L M F A O

IT IS LITERALLY THE OPPOSITE YOU FUCKING GAY EXCREMENT

"HANDMADE SHOES" MEANS THE PEOPLE BEHIND IT CAN MAKE WHATEVER THEY WANT WHENEVER THEY WANT, NOT JUST THREE MODELS AD INFINITUM

SERIOUSLY, TOPKEK

>>18510212
???
the fuck are you on about
did you not see me asking advice from other eu people and me linking red wing amsterdam? what makes you assume im monolingual
the brand you recommended just puts out ugly shit on their front page, what makes you think that'll interest me to browse even further when that's what they think are their best products?

>>18510256
Why, this is good-looking? >>18509965

Based fucking retard.

>eu fag buynig red meme
Shouldn't even have replied in the first place. This is the last straw.

>>18510258
>this assblasted over someone not liking the brand you recommended hostilely
lmao calm your tits
yeah, I do think they're good looking. better than the slop you're recommending, that's for certain. otherwise I wouldn't have said so, no?

>>18510264
Keep being a brainlet, dude.

>>18506517 (OP)
What do I wear with Red Wing Blacksmiths? I got them in black and I'm figuring it out

what boot this...

>>18510333
looks like JK?

>>18510331
Anything. They're basic boots. Jeans, chinos, fatigue pants. You can wear a tshirt, flannel
Really anything

>>18510331
>black
its over no brown no blues

>>18509881
not nearly enough info. whats your price range?
>>18510331
black is typically considered dressier. I wear black boots with relaxed dress trousers like picrel because they give that slight bit of casual/military look that can bring dressier trousers into a casual outfit. Blacksmiths are more on the workboot side, so I would pair them with dark relaxed/wide chinos typically. The fitted (not wide/relaxed) pant look only really works for boots with jeans IMO and as the other anon said, you dont really want to wear blue jeans with black boots. Black jeans could work, but fitted black jeans and black boots is a specific look that I'm assuming you probably arent going for. Your top and layers can just be anything that builds from there.

>>18510529
Fuck off you dumb 4chink addict. Anyone can see your posts all over the entire board. Fucking kill yourself.

Does anyone know what to use for bootcare with Klondike leather (Flatbox Beckman)? I read that mink oil can ruin it for some reason. I have a horsehair brush but not sure what conditioner/oil/whatever I need. This is my first boot I bought about 5 months ago so never done any boot care before.
Also my pair are a lighter, less deep glossy black than a pair like pic rel. Is that because these have been conditioned and mine havent?

>>18510533
wrong reply?

>>18510535
I told you to fuck off retard.

>>18510539
Did I offend you? I almost never post on this board, or 4chan for that matter.

Anyone own Lofgren m43? Would like to know if there is a lasting hole in the back of those boots. Some Japanese makers have them some don't.

>>18510534
Mink oil is probably overkill, I'd image any light conditioner would be fine. A lot of people recommend Bick 4 for conditioning, I like Smiths. If you want to try and get that slick sheen you can try using Leather N Rich instead, it tends to provide a slightly more glossy look.

>>18510771
all lofgrens do

>>18510922
Can't see them when looking at m43 pics

>>18510927
i'm pretty sure lofgren white labels his boots from the same factory so it stands to reason it will have the same lasting hole

Recommended trees? I was reading bad ones can ruin the boot

>turdsdays using threaded nails instead of clinch nails
really makes you think

>>18510942
not bad ones but mis sized trees can be damaging in the long run

>>18510979
does getting boot specific trees matter that much or can I just get regular shoe trees?

This seems like a good enough thread to post in. I've been wanting to get a pair of good gothy Pike boots for some time now but I can't really find anywhere to get them.
There was a site called GothPikes.Com out there for a while, but I heard mixed reviews on quality and a lot of people who ordered and paid but never recieved their boots. Obviously not the site I would use.
I also found some okay looking ones on eBay, but eBay has always felt a bit sketchy to me and the price seems a bit high, especially for ones with novelty coffin and skull shaped buckles, which my experience indicates just do not hold up well over time compared to basic buckles. I'd rather find a company that specializes in pikes, preferably without a cuban heel. Anyone know of some good bootmakers that make pikes, at least?

>>18510937
Alright I guess no Lofgrens for me then
>inb4 the hole doesn't matter
Probably true but I just don't like it simple as

>>18510942
they're all the same and overrated. stick fucking newspaper in your boots, it's all the same

>>18511037
show us the rest of your cosplay first

>>18510979
>Thursdays
Viewing the dedicated subreddit is always a good time.

>>18511076
This isnt for cosplay. I just want some nice goth pikes to wear, especially when I go the local goth nights. It's nice to throw on a nice shirt and some eyeliner and dance to music I actually enjoy once in a while.

>>18511089
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kek

>>18506517 (OP)
Your thoughts on these?

>>18511113
All that ever comes to mind for that style of boot is Reddit. It seems like it's always soifags wearing those things.

>>18511114
i feel like this response was written by a bot because it is antagonistic and incorrect, apparently to encourage engagemetn.

>>18511119
I'm right and you know it, faggot. Gay shoes for gay retards.

>>18511113
why the extra stitching?

>>18511113
2010s hipsters core (so not good)

>>18511113
Looks fine

>>18511113
gonna be a nope from me dawg

>>18511125
I'd be so embarrassed to have gray hair and a $10 Jack & Jones shirt.

>>18511089
>clown shoes
Seriously, do red boots ever look good?

>>18511113
what the fuck is this?

>>18511286
Red boots? No, never.
Red shoes, however....

>>18511125
>Blackebergsgård
Pinsamt.

Is it possible for a boot/shoe to fit perfectly from the start? I always thought a brand new pair should at least feel snug.

>>18511113
Looks better with normal sole.

>>18511114
Boots as an interest are inherently reddit.

>>18511460
Everything with a wedge normally does. But people that wear boots like that for work swear by the wedge sole.

>>18511455

Yes. It's just a matter of finding the right size and last.

>>18511113

I wanted to buy a pair of Origin, but I didn't know how they would fit and there wasn't retailer near me to try. Also, I've heard that there customer service sucks balls so I'd be pretty fucked if I wanted a return. I just went to the local RW store.

>>18511075
it is not all the same

>>18511531
It is, but feel free to pay 100 dollars for some

>>18511113
Only moc toes should have wedge soles.

>>18511454
The picture is obviously taken in Solna Centrum thougever

>>18511509
It's just uncanny, never had a shoe that felt tailor made.

How can you tell if a new pair of boots is good quality? No I am not interested in meaningless nitpicks like "is the leather wrinkled"

>>18511612
>How can you tell if a new pair of boots is good quality?
by who made it

>feel the floor shaking
>guy walks in
>he's wearing these monstrosities
What are your assumptions about him?

>>18511612
who the maker is
do they have a factory tour video
do they explicitly state where their leather is from

>>18511925
strong legs from heavy boots

>>18510534
Bump this, is the best thing to do to use Fiebing's then use some conditioner?

>>18511933
What do you mean by Fiebing's? They make a huge range of products. I would just get a matching color shoe cream for dealing with scuffs and occasional polishing, and use conditioner twice a year. I use Lexol, works for me, perhaps not the best but I bought a gallon jug years back and it's gotta get used somehow.

>>18511937
Let me be hyperspecific: I own Fiebing's saddle soap and black Saphir Pate de Luxe shoe shine, should I also add conditioner? or should I just clean with the soap and polish up?

>>18511948
Honestly you're set. Conditioner is kind of a meme, stuff made from quality leather won't crack and split for decades.

>>18511926
>>18511616
That is not what I am looking for, I want to see something like if the boot sole is level.

Sounds more like you have no critical ability for the boot itself and you instead look for meaningless reputational things.

>>18512043
>reputation built up over years if not decades over tens of thousands of goods is irrelevant because I'm a retarded faggot

got a job as a secuirty guard and need leather boots

what should i get thats cheap and comfortable for standing 12hrs in everyday

>>18512057
What is cheap?

>>18512058
$150-$300AUD

>>18512057
Sir, this is a fashion boot thread. You're not going to find workboot advice worth a damn here.

>>18512075
Look at Jim Green's options. Go for their South African website, based on you being in Australia.

>>18512082
the rugged african trooper or AR8

>>18512085
>>18512085
your not gonna believe this but they got an australian website mate
the AR8 is $320AUD but looks a bit tall

i like the look of the thursday captains, but judging by the posts ITT they are either shit reddit bait or you're just being contrarian snobs, i dont know enough about boots to tell
is there anything cheaper and better that looks like them?

ive already bought comfy hiking boots but they wont cut it if im posted in a formal setting

>>18512114
if they have the custom boot builder you could get the 719 in their black leather maybe - costs a little extra maybe, but not much. It's a shorter and narrower boot, but they only have if it ready to ship in 2 brown leathers.
Other than that just go for something more basic with a cemented sole. if it's just for work you don't need the stitch down or goodyear welt which adds extra cost. this general is more about "heritage" made boots and tends to stay away from injection melded or cemented footwear although they can be fine footwear if done right.
Check out Kleman (French brand) for comfortable, well made cemented-construction leather boots.
https://kleman-france.com/en/men/shoes/boots.html
They do have some models with sidewall stitching as well as cementing, so those would be more durable long term - usually, that makes them a little more expensive.

>>18512114
never had a pair of Thursdays but apparently they are not durable and have poor quality control or something.
Another option would be chinese made boots - have a look at luosjet
https://www.luosjiet.com/collections/men-s-boots
could be the way to go, boot reviewers on youtube say they are good enough and the price is way undercutting the west which is nice for poorfags. They are either stich down or goodyear welted

>>18511953
So does the saddle soap and the Saphir polish do enough? Are their formulas enough to count as conditioning and moisturising the leather?

I vaguely remember that a former employee of Brass Tokyo opened a repair shop in Germany. Does that store still exist?

>>18512114
>is there anything cheaper and better that looks like them?
No. Thursday's already cut every corner that can be cut to maintain that price point. If you want best value for money ask tradesmen in your area or your coworkers where they get their boots, there are usually smaller brands that specialize in footwear for actual laborers and will be cheaper than anything here, probably not fashionable at all though.

>>18512114
I started with a pair of Thursday Captains and thought they were good and everyone was being a snob. Then eventually I got a pair of real boots and realized how bad they are. Even if you dont have an eye for quality leather and construction, you can still feel the difference. Realistically the starter boot price is 350-400 unless youre getting used. Red Wing/Oak Street/Grant Stone etc

>>18512056
Im not going to wear "reputation"

>>18512043
>I want to see something like if the boot sole is level
Sounds more like you have no critical ability for the boot itself and you instead look for meaningless things.

damn those bois WIIIIDE

>challengers supposedly the "quality" version of turdsdays
>suffer the same failures as their regular line
makes you think, doesn't it

>>18512679
the DR always provides quality

>>18512760
oops meant for>>18512694

>>18512679
>waist is about as wide as the widest part of the boots
Disgusting. I'm gonna go ahead and hope it's another case of pnw makers not knowing how to finish boots and they just didn't trim it

similar to munson

Why is Goodyear welt thought to be superior to Blake stitch when all the Guccis, Louboutins and other luxury brand Italian shoes are all Blake stitched, and all ultra high end bespoke shoes are hand welted?

>>18513411
>luxury =/= quality
I would've thought /fa/nons at a bare minimum would know that luxury brands make the worst clothing.
Blake stitching is cheaper to make while looking more expensive because the upper attaches to the sole seamlessly, so garbage fast fashion brands love it. In terms of comfort, durability, sustainability and weather resistance it is worse in every regard.

>>18513441
No one but reddit fags care that your shoes were handstitched by some hipster but when women see your shoes have red bottoms they know you care about how you look and you have some money.

>>18513453
Why the fuck would I want to be with a woman who desires designer clothes?

>>18513411
>ask question
>answer it

huh

>>18513411
If we're talking loafers it's also because blake stich makes for a thinner and more flexible sole. That's why they also tend to be unlined because it's a fancy slipper, not shoes/boots that have to be be waterproof and sturdy.

Is there anything to be done to fix collapsed toecaps?

>>18513795
using shoetrees on your next pair

unfortuantely once a crease sets in it can't be changed or moved

All modern Goodyear welt shoes are actually no better than cemented shoes because the gemming that the welt is stitched to is always simply glued to the insole. Basically, everyone is being scammed unless you’re spending $2000 for hand welted shoes.

>>18513912
>you’re spending $2000 for hand welted shoes
>he didn't buy the handwelted whites for 600

>>18513913
Whites are junk and every stitch on every Whites looks like it was done by a toddler.

sour grapes + moving goalposts = L

>>18513912
>All modern Goodyear welt shoes are actually no better than cemented shoes because the gemming that the welt is stitched to is always simply glued to the insole
thats much better than the sole being glued to the sides and the welt is still stitched to the upper so blowing out the gemming isnt even a huge issue

>>18513942
Blowing out the gemming is a big deal and needs a full shoe teardown to fix, which would probably cost as much as a nice pair of cemented shoes.

>>18513963
only red wings do that anyways and they stay intact

Another day, another trail

>>18514026
Careful you're gonna scratch the leather

Got pic rel (try-ons) in the mail earlier today (haven't taken a pic with them on yet). The Waxed Mohawk suede is surprisingly firm. It's "Maraca" so I was expecting it would be lighter, but it's really a dark sand kind of color. I suppose it'll look lighter once they're worn in. They feel a little big at size 10.5, but idk if I could have gone another half-size down

>>18514702
>I suppose it'll look lighter once they're worn in.

>>18514702
damn they look ashy AF

>>18514780
its waxed suede

>>18514823
i don't think those are gonna lighten with wear

>>18514824
>>18514778

>grant stone costs 400+ now
what's the point of this brand now? now you get to spend the same price for made in USA/UK/Spain for made in China! Awesome!

>>18514702
>I suppose it'll look lighter once they're worn in
RETARD ALERT

>>18515148
they do have some exotic leathers sometimes

>>18515154
their traveler penny loafer is $412 for CXL
ridiculous

>>18513912
This was an ancient troll from styleforum by a maker of hand welted shoes.

Try harder.

>>18515148
>now you get to spend the same price for made in USA/UK
where?
the closest thing is parkhurst which is spain/portugal iirc and the only comparable usa made boots are red wings which are worse

i wear my 420 dollar parkies exclusively in an office environment

>>18515543
I wore my $286 parkies today

you guys lied the soles in expensive boots aren't comfortable at all it's all in the stupid thick socks you people wear and if fucking sucks ass if you wear normal socks

>>18515835
post boots

>>18515835
rubber is a hard compound and it doesn't matter if it's cheap as fuck or expensive as fuck, it's not comfortable

>>18515840
>rubber
it's a leather insole

PROTIP: Expensive boots and shoes should feel like you got them a size too small at first, then they break in and custom mold themselves to your feet making them more comfortable and less fatiguing than any other form of footwear.

>>18515853
protip I've owned these boots for nearly 2 years now you chimp

>>18515855
Spend more money next time.

>>18515858
I think 428 us dollars is enough to not have the bottom of my feet not hurt all the time

>>18515852
based retard

>>18515859
Your "$400" Thursdays that you got on sale for $200 aren't expensive or well made. Next time save up for Vibergs.

>>18515863
theyre parkhurst niagaras but you can continue to act obtuse
>>18515861
its literally leather

>>18515853
It's common but they shouldn't. A perfect pair of shoes has no pressure points while not being too big, it's just rare for a ready to wear shoe to fit so well.

>>18515835
comfortable shoes are for poofters

just got an offer at an investment bank. not as an investment banker, but the money is still good. i am looking to get my dream loafers but i can't decide between shell aldens or jm westons

>>18515835
they are if you have problems in your knees/hips
foam soles hurt my hips after an hour of walking

>>18515979
You dont need expensive shoes as a secretary buddy, just bring your fat ass so the real men have something to stare at.

>>18515853
>should feel like you got them a size too small at first
Meme advice. They will mold to your feet over time, but that's not a reason to get boots that are way too small. Key areas are the ball and the flex point. The upper should just about touch or gently cradle your feet there like most shoes.

>>18515835
>buy socks designed for padded shoes
>wear in non padded shoes
>????
>profit?

>>18516042
t-they'll break in!

>>18515853
your "protip" is neither pro nor a tip
it's more like retard's guide to getting bad fitting shoes

>>18516106
>>18516073
>>18516042
t. Clownshoe enjoyers

>>18516205
>t. resident 5'3" retard

>>18515148
Should have brought GS years ago. I brought mine around 250-300. I remember when their Black Friday discount would be 30%

>>18516285
we didn't know own how good we had it with barely over $300 boots
NY made parkhurst were great as well

>>18515979
>dream loafers
do you know how gay you sound

>>18516424
not nearly as gay as you do with your father's cock in your mouth

seems like I struck a nerve

>>18506517 (OP)
Anyone know what boot this is?

i do not give a shit about synthetic materials like foam in boots or shoes as long as everything structural is natural and sound.
i'm not gonna complain about some foam pad under the sock liner when the insole is leather. all the foam does is help give it some cushion

>>18516685
NOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T SSSAAAYYY THAAAAAAATTT!!!!!!

>>18506517 (OP)
How soft and "glove like" do leather boots get when truely broken in? Do they actually get that soft and super comfortable as Reddit fags make it out to be?

>>18516889
a large part of it comes down to how well the last fits your foot, if the fit is good and the boots are good then they will be more comfortable than any sneaker you've ever worn

>>18516889
it'll feel just as comfortable as a random pair of 90 dollar running shoes, but its leather

Talk me out of lightly treating the insides of my boots to speed up the break in period.

>>18516939
What are you treating it with?

>>18516685
desu doing a leather insole and making the last accommodate an insert would be best of both worlds
iirc nicks did it on one of their boots

First time buying some boots,I’m stuck between the 1460 mono and the 1490 smooth.I like the full black of the 1460 but I like the height of the 1490.if you guys have any recommendations would appreciate it also I’m into the school shooter aesthetic if that helps.

>>18516994
>if you guys have any recommendations
yeah,don't buy doctor shitters

>>18516997
Yeah just saw the brands not to buy.fuck me I guess back to square one.

>>18516951
Locally these are some of the “higher end” products I can find. Working on an online list at the moment of everything I want so for now just these. How fucked will my socks be if I lightly treat the insides?

>>18516994
1460 mono is S tier

>>18517013
Forgot pic..:

>>18516994
get solovairs instead

>>18517014
Am I getting baited?

>>18517016
I will give them a look,anything in particular?

>>18517016
same shit different story(name)

>>18517021
Yeah besides the quality. I bought a pair of made in England docs at a thrift store to compare to my solovairs which I bought new. Solovairs are way more durable but yeah same style and considered a low quality boot in regards to other $200+ boot brands. If you want the aesthetic opt for the solovairs or squeeze into a vintage pair of docs.

>>18517021
Ok so if doc and solos are shit,what do you recommend?

>>18517013
>>18517015
>saddle soap
>mink oil
Good way to prematurely dry out and age your insole. Your socks will feel a bit slick and gross for a while, for little to no real discernible effect. FWIW, I did put some mild conditioner (Bick 4 or VSC can't remember) along the lining of my Red Wings before, and I don't know if it actually did anything. Just break the damn boots in

>>18517058
He’s just implying that for the price point of solovairs there are better alternatives for quality boots. If you like the style and look of docs/solovairs buy solovairs over docs. I have a pair of moc toe Thorogoods that are much more durable compared to my solovairs but I like the look of broken in solovairs so I got those over Docs.

>>18517069
What are the better alternatives though?I do like solo the most when it comes to aesthetics,if that means I have to sacrifice some quality eh so be it,it’s my first pair of boots anyway.also the thorogoods look good for a forest/camp vibe,while I’m more into edge.

>>18517076
>I have to sacrifice some quality
you sacrifice your feet and quality

uk made soloshitters are the least bad

>>18516889
really only the unstructured boots will feel glove like

>>18517079
the look like a glove too lmao

What kind of boots are these and where can I get some? Also whats a good price range.
Thanks in advance.

>>18517110
derby
grant stone

>>18517122
that is not a derby
also
>GS

>>18517126
Yes they look better than 90% of boots especially the ones that are just made for your typical overweight blue collar worker that also happen to be a bunch of fags as well.

>>18517125
youre not a derby

>>18517110
Balmoral boots, brogue cap toe.

>>18517135
Just get the solovair derby with or without the steal toe and you will be happy. Or Gripfast for more “edge”. I love mine and the only people who bitch about solovairs are more insufferable than denim fags.

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