Self improvement is a joke. The game is rigged from the start

>>76278320 (OP)
so what?

Only if you're balding (which is not caused by genetics btw).

>>76278320 (OP)
most of you aren't in the bucket of individuals who wouldn't benefit from self-improvement

90% of /fit/izens will work mid-tier jobs, get a 5/10 wife (if lucky), get a 40 year mortage plan and drive a used luxury vehicle (on a lease) and slave away until retirement.

>>76278328
>judging how good someone looks but only without their hair
this doesn't make any sense. your look is a lot of little things put together, including hair.
but I agree with his sentiment

>>76278320 (OP)
what do you benefit from having this mindset. you must be a jeet

>>76278328
What is it caused by?

>>76278320 (OP)
his father looks just like him and he managed to get a wife and reproduce
>but muh times are different
yeah nowadays he has it even easier because he could afford lasik and a hair transplant even with a minimum wage job, and he can find diets and training regiments online

>>76278320 (OP)
This board and /r9k/ are on the extreme ends of self improooving mental illness but on a horseshoe
>It's IMPOSSIBLE for anyone to be INDESIRABLE to women if they grow male gaze muscles get stonks and ignore everything else wrong with them, just disregard balding, social anxiety, lifelong isolation and financial and genetic shortcomings bro !
>It's IMPOSSIBLE for anyone not born as Dolph Lundgren literally to be DESIRABLE to women no matter what he does, just disregard 90% of the male population who gets laid at one point or another despite being mediocre or average
Two autistic black and white ways of thinking who dont get you laid, one is defeatist and wont make it and the other one is extremely delusional and wont make it

>>76278437
Stress, nalnoutrition, not enough sleep, bad diet (sneed-oil drenched carb-rich goylsop).

Rate my hairline, i'm 39

>>76278477
Hello chris hansen

>>76278457
>It's IMPOSSIBLE for anyone to be INDESIRABLE to women
it is unless maybe you look like the elephant man
>>76278457
>just disregard balding, social anxiety, lifelong isolation and financial and genetic shortcomings bro
nobody says that
Virtually anyone can work on himself enough to be able to attract at least one woman, this is in not an extreme view

>>76278320 (OP)
It’s understandable to feel that way—especially if you've been working hard and not seeing the results you expected, or watching others succeed with seemingly less effort or more privilege. That feeling—that the game is rigged—isn't baseless. Life is uneven. People start with different resources, different networks, and different obstacles. So when self-improvement is sold as a "just try harder and you'll win" formula, it can absolutely feel like a cruel joke.

But here’s a more grounded way to look at it:

Self-improvement doesn't fix the system.
It won’t undo inequality, privilege, or luck. It doesn’t promise fairness. What it can do—if approached realistically—is give you slightly better odds, or help you hold the line when everything else is chaotic. Sometimes, that’s all you get: a little more agency, a little more clarity, a little less self-destruction.

The self-help industry is often the real joke.
A lot of it is predatory—peddling toxic positivity, hustle culture, or shame-based motivation. That’s not self-improvement. That’s marketing. Real growth often looks like setting boundaries, learning to rest, asking for help, or coming to terms with limitations. Not always glamorous.

If the game is rigged, why play at all?
Not everyone has to. You’re allowed to reject the whole premise and define your own goals. Maybe "winning" isn’t becoming a millionaire or hyper-productive machine—but finding some peace, some truth, or simply not getting crushed by the machine. That’s still resistance. That’s still power.

Would you be open to talking about what made you feel this way? I'm not here to convince you, just to talk it through if you want.

>>76278493
No gym for your face, height, autism
It shouldnt be a detterent to better yourself but there are studies on how much these things matter to women when considering a partner
Even if you work through them you'll still land a depressing marriage with someone who doesnt really like you, it's insane how bluepill and blackpill fags dont factor in long term marriage/relationship satisfaction especially for women married to unattractive men

>>76278320 (OP)
>use clenbuterol to lose all the excess weight
>use test/daca/eq or mast (since already bald) to get muscle
>get hair system
>get tattoos
this guy could look good by the time he's 25-26

>>76278320 (OP)
If that guy hadn't spent his teens gooning and playing vidya, and had been outdoors engaged in a team sport, he would be fine.

>>76278431
I won't ever make it that far

>>76278516
>you'll still land a depressing marriage with someone who doesnt really like you
life is complicated and messy and even a gigachad can easily fall into that, but you are just choosing to see everything in a negative lens by saying that it's guaranteed. Why should it be impossible for an ugly autist to find a 3/10 but loving and loyal wife? Even if it's not likely why would you decide to not strive for it and waste the small chances that you have?
You sound one bad experience away from killing yourself, but if part of you still wants to live long then you should try to make your life as good as you can, what's there to lose? Old people on their death beds regret the times they didn't try much more than the times they tried and failed

>>76278544
>and even a gigachad can easily fall into that,
1/1000000
Meanwhile that's 99% guaranteed for a lot of unattractive guys
You're just jerking yourself off to hypotheticals

>>76278547
now you are just throwing around made up numbers.
You see other's people lives superficially and you think that they are all sunshine and rainbows, while sometimes even the people who seem to have everything going their way might hide huge traumas. Throwing statistics around is pointless when you talk about individuals, you are one person and wasting time pondering your odds will do you no good.
Yes life is unfair and often tragic, but all you can do is work with what you have and try to find what little happiness you can afford to grab for yourself, that might be a lot but it's much more likely to be only a little, it's still better than nothing. Comparing yourself with luckier people serves no purpose other than making you feel like shit, so why do it? And why don't you compare yourself with people less lucky than you?

>>76278581
All of this is headcanon doe and copium

>>76278320 (OP)
nigger did you really decide to post this on /fit/ of all places?
Tyler Durden ass logic
like what do you say is the solution then, just neck yourself or something? if so why didn't you do it

>>76278584
believe whatever you want. I've been depressed and suicidal for years, so I might have an inkling of what you are going through right now. I even almost killed myself once, but right then I realized that deep down I wanted to live and ever since that day I slowly and painfully accepted that if I have to go through long decades of life I might as well try to do it looking up rather than down, and that has helped me a lot. And if I still manage to really really fuck things up beyond repair I can still go back to the suicide idea and peace out lol so why even stress about the possibility of failure

>>76278611
Why are you addressing the subject on the second person solely based on assumptions when it doesnt relate to my initial point that both you and blackpillers and redpillers are all equally mentally ? Bluepill and just world fags are extremely low iq, just because you had a "positive" outcome doesnt mean everyone else will, it could simply mean that your "depression" was always a nothingburger

>>76278620
because you are clearly blackpilled to the core

>>76278633
>More assoooomptions
And you're brown

>>76278635
if you earnestly use blackpill arguments my "assumption" is unlikely to be wrong, but hey maybe you're a giraffe that quacks like a duck

>>76278642
Being realistic != blackpill

>>76278473
100% this
Stop blaming on "muh genetics"
Bad habits are the real cause of bad hair.

>>76278659
DHT sensitivity is genetic

>>76278648
you are not realistic, you are nihilistic. You can't even admit that it's possible to find a modicum of happiness in a generally bad and unlucky life, how is that realistic?

>>76278675
>Just grind your life away for a miserable relationship bro
>>76278581
Why do people love leading desperate men on lmao

>>76278320 (OP)
Self improvement for health is the most based thing you can do.

Self improvement for social status, however, all you really need to do is buy clothes that actually fit you and shower more than once two weeks and 80% of your work is done.

>>76278328
I can see this seething bald fag's British accent through the audioless video. God I hate the British.

>>76278320 (OP)
I don't care

>>76278328
That makes total sense, many men are obsessed with their hair to a feminine degree, it frames their whole being. So when they lose it they crash and burn.

>>76278328
And this guy is relying on his facial hair to not look like a substitute teacher

>>76279359
I look like this and do this