Do you agree with Stefan Molyneux?

thats just cope
if you find lifting fun, great do it
if you need to lift to achieve a certain strength goal like for sports or whatever, sure do it
but to lift so you feel more manly or mentally stronger is literally insecurity cope

>>76279210 (OP)
Holy shit I haven't heard from molymeme in years this guys still going? Does he still berate people on his show regularly

>>76279210 (OP)
Didn't know he was still alive

>>76279210 (OP)
It makes sense that lifting makes you more assertive in day to day life, unless you are an absolute beta your psyche carries more gravitas, others recognize you or want to be like you as a brother in iron, and that changes behavior.
Some people become jealous, others more friendly, others more open to your suggestions.
This may not be what you were aiming for, but it's an undeniable 2nd order effect, similar to being rich or a playboy.

>>76279304
That is to say, within fake/natty bodybuilding boundaries. If you turn into an apparent roidtranny, people either think you're obsessed or a freakshow, or hyperaggressive/criminal.

>"-it is integrity and thought itself."
>Stefan Molyneux
>Integrity
Lol, lmao.

>>76279210 (OP)
Is he going to have a juiced up 1488 redemption arc?

>>76279210 (OP)
wasnt he running a comfy cult?

>>76279220
Or if you just lift so you're not a fat disgusting slob, there's integrity and discipline in not being a fat disgusting slob. Men that lack self discipline are no men at all, fatty.

>>76279210 (OP)
He's not wrong

>>76279432
Lifting doesn't help you not be fat or a slob.
Cardio and dieting helps you not be fat, and not being a slob is completely a mentality thing.

Lifting by itself is overrated. It's only useful to reach your fitness goals.

>>76279210 (OP)
I thought he was dead lol
Didnt he disappear over a decade ago?

>>76279220
not an argument

>>76279210 (OP)
He is making a comeback on X. never thought I'd see him cringe fit posting at his age.

>>76279210 (OP)
well i'm sure he has a remarkable physique that he'll be happy to post

>>76279210 (OP)
This nigga needs to stop abusing commas for fuck sake that shit pisses me off... stop spamming that shit

The fuck even happened to this guy?

I remember watching his videos back in like 2014/2015 and then his YT channel got deleted for whatever reason. Surprised he's still around

>>76279220
You are a fucking loser and net drain on the world

>>76279616
He never left he went to like bitchute or rumble or whatever

He's still alive? Good for him. I thought he died of cancer years ago.

>>76279220
Great post - apart from the use of the incelly/demoralizer word "cope".

>>76279210 (OP)
I’m sure the X dot com page you pulled this from has a comments section there.

I cannot respect bald guys sorry

>>76279210 (OP)
No, he's a pretentious faggot
I lift because I like it, not because of some Philosophy 101 paper nonsense

>>76279210 (OP)
whoa a dinosaur!

im guessing some BAP style fed got banned on twitter and hes trying to siphon his audience

molyneux is not a fitness guy lol. i listened to a ton of him back in the day and he never once mentioned exercise

>>76279980
not an argument
go work out

>>76280074
i just got back from one tho

>>76279210 (OP)
I kinda get what he means but what happens if you're fit but still conform to society? Not every fit guy is going to become a millionaire making content like Sam Sulek or whatever, most of them are just regular guys working in Tech/Finance /Engineering

>>76279210 (OP)
No. This is douchebaggery larping as intellectualism. Guy needs to figure out what lifts he needs to grow his personality.

>>76279210 (OP)
I want to say no but deep down I do feel this way. If you are a man and dont lift the wtf are you doing???

>>76279210 (OP)
Coping like this about how lifting makes you >le real man just shows that he has never faced any genuine hardship in his life.

He left Fable half-finished fuck him

>>76279210 (OP)
this guy has zero credibility

>>76279220
You've never felt excitement, a thrill, or felt proud of yourself after accomplishing/building up to a heavy lift?

>>76279616

He got absolutely fucking nuked off every single platform in 2021 after he started shitposting about women running out of eggs in their 30s. And this was after years of posting far right/race stuff without issue. He really must have pissed a female mod off, not even Alex Jones got it that bad. Now's he back thanks to muskler.

>>76279220
he's been bald since his 20s

>>76280514
>this guy has zero credibility.

Found another one, Hans.

>>76279210 (OP)
That's retarded.
Do you know what lifting does? It gives you bigger muscles. Makes you healthier. Probably makes you more disciplined. That's about it. It certainly doesn't reveal who you really are or what you really believe. That's some of the most cringe worthy pseudo intellectual bullshit I've ever heard.

The guy doesn't even lift he dicks around on the machines

>>76279980
why are you acting like he doesn't just make his history up on the go for maximum grifting
https://youtu.be/2U-RZZu6Afc?si=EL5T9yST53ldMi9y

>>76279210 (OP)
He isn't half as smart as he portrays and loves to lie about his 'defoo' past. He blocked me years ago on gab when I pointed out some logical fallacy he made.

>>76279616
well he stacked BTC for over a decade. probably has 9 figures net worth and just slams whores all day while berating their life choices and blaming their parents.

>>76279210 (OP)
Is lifting the new right wing grift?

it's not lifting per say
it's "being strong, healthy and fit"

That mfer does not lift

>>76279491
this, his argument would at least make a bit of sense if he was talking about fitness in general.
I don't think that Messner lifted at all, but I'm pretty sure that when he solo climbed the Everest without oxygen tanks he had much more self-awareness and integrity than some twitter fag who drives to the gym to do some curls a few times a week

>>76280996
Not an argument.

>>76279231
He got redpilled on jews and started talking about them alot. That's when he got canceled.

>>76280862
Yeah he's full of shit. I learned that quickly when I would repeat things he said in arguments and get called out, and then looked into those things and saw they were wrong.
He never stopped being the defoo guy. His desire to get people to dump their parents is still at the core of everything he does. He's a nut.

>>76281395
No, completely wrong. He has never seriously addressed the Jew thing and it wasn't why he was cancelled.

>>76279210 (OP)
It's only half true. Dissent does require physical strength; weak people parse information through a group consensus filter, because they can't protect themselves. That's how women and weak men think.

But dissent also requires a kind of intellectual bravery that is separate from physical strength; a willingness to be the only person holding a belief, an ability to believe in what's right and true even when others mock you for it, the ability to ignore propaganda. Lifting weights does not make a person mentally robust and masculine.

>>76280647
This. You could replace "lifting" with "reading a book" or "building a LEGO set" and it would make exactly as much sense. Lifting is great and virtually everyone should do it, but it's not some crucible that reveals the YOU in you, or whatever vague spiritual bullshit.

>>76281603
>Lifting weights does not make a person mentally robust and masculine.
He's saying it makes you more mentally robust and masculine than non lifters which is true. Some fatty who can't stop stuffing his face or some skelly who won't eat a burger is undoubtedly less mentally robust and masculine than someone who eats right and lifts hard.

>>76281679
Plenty of reddit NPCs lift weights. I'd say the majority of people in a gym are in fact left wing beta male types. That's why it's an incomplete idea. You can get bigger and stronger and it won't fix the fear of group rejection.

I have to agree once I hit 2pl8 I started saying nigger all the time even in public

Little twink bitches and skinnyfat truck dads try to start shit with me and I just look at them and say things like “I’m sorry I don’t speak Spanish”

>>76281707
Based.

>>76281723
My neighbor with a gay pride flag outside his house wished me merry Christmas last year and I looked at him and said

“Did you just assume my religion?”

>>76281737
I know they are stalking and harassing me and lo and behold they sent a guy to put me in a coma the day after Christmas

I’m pretty sure he is a semi pro mma guy with one ufc bout but I had about 150lb of muscle on him and broke his spine without anything other than a bloody nose after he sucker punched me and kicked me in the head repeatedly

Don’t listen to all the bj experts who say mma beats muscle if you are a legit athlete and have over 100lb on someone you are basically impervious to their attacks

Gay ass bodybuilders and powersharters don’t count

Fuck off Stefan, you were always cringe.
>le strong of body is le strong of mind
Post body nigger I'm not gonna watch your schizo retard boomershriek 300 minute rant about vaginas.

one rep

>>76279210 (OP)
just buy a gun

>>76281698
>I'd say the majority of people in a gym are in fact left wing beta male types.
What about the majority of actually strong guys at gyms? I think stefan retardo has a point actually. Is everyone disagreeing just because he's obnoxious?

>>76279231
same

>>76281603
>Dissent does require physical strength
No it doesn't
There are plenty of weak people with an insane ego and who are always confrontational

Its because being strong doesn't protect you from actual danger
Actual dangers:
- losing your job
- getting stabbed/shot or ganged up on by multiple people
- going to jail

Any physical danger that you could overcome with strength is literally a non-factor, a fucking joke compared to real dangers in the world

>>76280477
I ain't got time to lift, I'm too busy gooning

>>76279210 (OP)
Based Molymeme is back on twitter

>>76279225
He got banned and deplatformed on youtube during the fetanyl floyd riots and he has been doing shows on locals mostly avoiding politics.

>>76279372
Not an argument

>>76281374
Based

>>76280978
Slamming whores is not UPB. Most whores are whores because of childhood abuse and trauma.

>>76282932
No that's still UPB and basically why his worldview fails. He thinks women will be le rational libertarians if you just raise them right. He thinks child abuse is responsible for all problems (he stretches the definition to such an extent that he said his daughter was the first non abused child) and if you remove that everyone will think like a rationalist 130 IQ white male ancap.

>>76280862
What fallacies did you point out?
>>76281582
What arguments?

Defooing from people who abuse or have abused you is perfectly sound if they take no accountability for their actions and are willing to change when you point it out, even family and especially family even.

>>76279220
Molyneux and many others on Twitter are strictly about being proscriptive rather than descriptive. Their content is almost dogmatism.

>>76282947
You strawman and misrepresents his views. Child abuse and abuse of power from the state, you left that part out. These two factory are a massive problem in todays society.

Why don't you jump on his twitter space and argue with him like a man if you disagree so much?

https://x.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1936102788326379874

>>76279220
Yeah you definitely do not lift bro, also not an argument.

>>76282954
>Defooing from people who abuse or have abused you is perfectly sound if they take no accountability for their actions and are willing to change when you point it out, even family and especially family even.
So by this he means everyone, and by taking accountability he means immediately becoming ancaps upon being confronted.
Seriously. Taxation is le theft. It is the USE of FORCE against ME. So if you have people in your life who aren't ancaps, and if you tell them this argument and they don't immediately become ancaps, cut them out!
This is all totally ridiculous but it's even worse because there's no alternative. These le moral people he imagines don't exist. The worst is when it comes to women. You need to find MORAL and VIRTUOUS women who stand up to some abstract principles!
Yeah ok good luck with that. Basically advising young people to cut off their family, cut off their friends, and hold everyone they meet to impossible standards so they remain alone.

>>76283076
You are misrepresenting and making things up, you clearly do not understand defooing or Molymeme's philosophy.

>>76283107
Now it's my turn to say 'not an argument.' Tell me specifically what.
He used to say most of this stuff explicitly. Now he is more tactful. But his position hasn't changed.

Why do lifters pretend its the hardest thing imaginable and that you're some gift to the world because you go to the gym 5 days a week? Its the easiest, simplest, lowest effort form of exercise imaginable. You're not a fighter, not a professional athlete, not skilled in any regard, no mastery over anything.

Congratulations, you've done the bare minimum. You're not "fighting demons" or "proving everyone wrong", you're just a faggot who thinks he's owed the world with a 225 bench.

>>76282919
Wasn't meant to be, whiner

>>76283395
They think because 95% of the world doesn't do it they can't do it
When in reality they just dont want to/don't care

I remember this guy spamming in 2019 that everyone should make white babies and that start families in general, he was saying things like having children makes you more productive because you want to provide for your family etc, I almost got baited at that time starting a family with my gf at time.


Anyway for the lifting part, I have a Christian best friend that whenever he hears the word gym, he is fuming. He used to also lift back in the day, he is saying things like I’m wasting time and I could be studying the word of God, which is clear in the bible that Paul said that working out is beneficial

>>76283395
Are you a lifter? What's your deadlift?

>>76279210 (OP)
It's not lifting, it's fighting.
Lifting is nothing.

>>76283395
This.

>>76279491
anyone have the webm of her bathed in sweat?

>>76283395
You underestimate how lazy the average normie is.

>>76283481
Most normies are too instant gratification, the gym is delayed gratification and you have to keep doing it or you lose the muscle mass.

>>76283499
There is literally a whole sub-culture of Christian gym bros. Tell him to carry his cross and hit the gym, it improves health which will long term extend his moral life so he can study the word of God longer.

>>76285097
False dichotomy, both is good.

Not really actually. Einstein didnt lfit