Its so fucking hilarious how zoomer males try to paint a fake narrative about it being over at 30.. Thats when ur test peaks and then only lowers 1 percent a year. On top of that we have old man stegnth. Maybe its cuz yall age like milk.. If u go bald or have thinning then maybe irs over on the women front but a 30 year old with a full head of hair is peak.. I seethed just as much when I was your age. Trust me, we are doing yall a favor by taking ur women. U know how many loser freinds from HS I have that are working low paying manual labor to this day cuz they got a girl pregnant in their early 20s? Their wives look 40 now..

>>76312867 (OP)
I don't believe the whole test a hormones decline around age 30 trope.
I think that's just when people usually start to let themselves go

>>76312867 (OP)
How did these oldheads get away with roiding and not looking like a bald golem after?

>>76312871
Its got to be cuz im almost 31 and never had this much energy
>>76312872
Hair transplants

>>76312867 (OP)
you're not that guy pal

Name a generation that copes more than millenials. I’ll wait
You don’t see baby boomers doing this shit. YOU are 30, YOU did not peak unc it’s time to grow up.

>>76312919
>>76312922
Lmao at zoom zooms. I know yall dont know history but since the dawn of time older men went for younger women and younger women went for older men. If this wasn't true u wouldnt be seething this much.

It's not over at 30, but it may be partly over if you didn't make it by 40.

>t. 40.

>>76312931
Also fuck that guy Why is he hating on women? Women get "better" in some ways, worse in others as well, so does everyone. I just don't see what the relevancy of putting the women in there.

>>76312931
What makes u say that? Why is it over at 30?

>>76312934
Holy shit, since when was this board overrun with liberal men?? I bet u dont care about their body count either lmao

>>76312867 (OP)
i mean i can do everything as good or better than young me but the fundamental thing that sucks about being old is not having that endless horizon of magic gains if you follow a plan correctly. now i know that if i train hard af for the next six months i'll reach intermediate on strengthlevel standards and then the gains will slow to a trickle instead of the magical thinking i had at first that i'd become swole and confident and alpha by just looking at a weight

>>76312867 (OP)

I honestly blame covid Great Reset cultural fuckery.

>Its so fucking hilarious how zoomer males try to paint a fake narrative about it being over at 30

If you were to stick one of them in a time machine to like the mid-2010s, for them to experience that time as adults, most people would think they were gay if they started spouting that "omg it's so over when you turn 30 that's so ollllld" stuff because the only people who thought that way were women and twinks.

>>76312872

Going bald is more of a genetic crapshoot than anything else. The folk wisdom of it "coming from your mother's side" sounds like 20th century old lady bullshit, but maybe it's true for some people, maybe you can inherit it from either side.

People say lifestyle will make you go bald, but I don't know. I know guys in their 50s and 60s who drink daily or near-daily, and smoke cigarettes on top of that, who still have a full or near-full head of hair. I also know guys who were halfway up the Norwood scale by the time they were 25. What's interesting though is that a lot of the guys around my age (34) who started losing it really early (like mid-20s and visibly balding) were the guys who never got carded for beer or smokes back when we were all underage, because they already looked like grown men. So maybe that's part of it.

>>76312944
They will only trickle by 1 percent a year until u hit ur mid 40s.. no fap increases test by 45 percent. Steaks and sleep optimizing also incre a es it. Go on trt if u really cared about gains that much. I still have a 6 pack and full head of hair at 31. And my dick is half an inch bigger than it was when I was 20.

>>76312927
if you look better in your 30s than in your 20s that just means you were lazy in your 20s

>>76312945
Pure generation will love past 100, so we are just suppose dto spend 70 years sitting on a couch. Trump is at the peak of his life at 80 years old.. leader or iran is almost 90 and bini is also 80.. Isreal women still think bibi is hot

>>76312948
If u look worse in ur 30s than 20s it means that u were a smoker and alcoholic who didnt practice sleep hygiene

>>76312919
Is the guy in OPs picture unattractive to women?

>>76312919

>Australia
>Example of normal aging for white people

Hot, dry climates are brutal on people with Northern Euro genetics. It's not as bad on Americans in the Southwest because they tend to have a little wop, Mexican or Injun admixture.

This guy definitely looks older than the typical 34 year-old in the Northeastern US though.

>>76312867 (OP)
I'm literally 27 with a 19yr wife

>>76312872
Because balding is genetic predisposition. Roids don't make you lose hair, they make you age faster so you bald in your 30s instead in your 50s or 60s like you'd usually do.

>>76312979
Dads 60, no grey hairs and no visible thinning. He's a rageaholic also. If anyone should have grey hairs from stress its him

>>76312968
Post her ugly ass so we can laugh lol

>>76312985
Your point? My grandfather passed at something like 80+ and he had full hairline until his last moment. It's all genetic.

>>76312988
>only ugly women go for more successful, wise and muscular men

>>76313025
posting on 4chan nullifies any of that from being true

>>76312989
No point, just pointing it out for the zoom zooms

>>76312867 (OP)
>picrel
Holy shit is that fucking manlet faggot still around? How many years has he been peddling his faggot shit?
But yeah the whole "it's over at 30" meme is bs. Men especially tend to give up on life at around that age, but that's a different story.

>>76313037
They should have went to college and built a career but they fell for the trades meme

>>76312954
>If u look worse in ur 30s than 20s it means that u were a smoker and alcoholic who didnt practice sleep hygiene
That's also cope. I smoked, did hard drugs and drank all through my 20s and I still look fresher than a lot of people a decade younger than me.

>>76313048
Why do zoomers look so old?

>>76313042
A "career" at some jew daycare is complete horse shit as well. A career has no inherent value at a spiritual level, which is what we're really talking about. Whether or not what you do is meaningful to you is the only thing that matters. If you spend your days at some jew daycare in zoom meeting after zoom meeting it'll feel like it's over, doesn't matter how much money you make.

>>76312867 (OP)

Those dudes got married young to a woman that loves them. Most dudes won't even have the option of used goods they'll just end up alone

>>76313056
Ye, of course u need to choose a career u love. Im an engineer, love what i do, wanted to be one since i was 13... Im sorry ur zoomer brain is too dopamine deprived from weed and scrolling to be interested in anything..

>>76312876


There's a reason most UFC champs are in their early-mid 30s. even look at a lot of the judo and wrestling champs at higher weights, almost all over 30.

You don't get your grown man strength until 35-38 which is why you can be a George Foreman (RIP) that wins a boxing championship at 44.

>>76313057
And they are stuck working endless overtime, they will never have enough money for a vacation. Only thing they do for fun is weed. One of them has a wife that treats them decently and the rest have ones that mentally abuse them. I can start a family any time I want. I can wait till im 45 if I want to. Learn some biology

>>76313062
And thats just cardio shit bascially. Imagine if u dont care about that and only care about strength.. its not only about muscles. We are smarter and richer. Most of the time our faces are even better.. young men look more feminine and zoomers really think thats what girls want lmao

>>76312871
I'm 48 and still get morning wood every night, still waiting for my test to drop.

>>76313059
>Im sorry ur zoomer brain is too dopamine deprived from weed and scrolling to be interested in anything
My point was that you need meaningful activities in your life. A lot of jobs have no meaning, and men in particular tend to neglect exploring new activities as they get older. Men have it drilled into their heads that they need to focus on a career, get a job at some jew daycare, and then have nothing else really going for them in life. If you do that it's going to feel over as fuck when you're in your 30s.

>>76313079
U can still have a meaningful life if u have a job ur not passionate about. Money buys freedom

>>76312963
Australia is a massive country with lots of different climates.

>>76313091
you’re a massive cunt and i’d give you lots of different climaxes

>>76313082
>U can still have a meaningful life if u have a job ur not passionate about. Money buys freedom
You spend a lot of time at your workplace, and past having your needs met and not having to WORRY about money all the time, money has severe diminishing return on satisfaction in life. If we swing back to the thing about trades, I'm fairly certain most men will be more satisfied in that kind of environment than some jew daycare office job. Outside of work you don't need a lot of money to live a fulfilling life. You can talk about the freedom money gives you, but you can't buy fulfillment.

>>76313108
I was a train mechanic while I was getting my degree. Also worked sum contruction and fire alarm isntaltion. Its awful. Ye its cool on paper but it will destroy ur joints. A 30 year old who has been working trades is in pain 24/7, and waddles when he walks. On top of that for some reason everyone in trades gets treated like shit and treats everyone like shit. Its not endearing as they paint it out to be. They are mad that they have to to monotonous shit that is destroying their bodies. With a job that doesnt invoke manual labor u can wfh and get good and it and in turn work less hours. Just the fact u aren't destroying ur body alone is enough to even work the most dreadful office job. Health is wealth. There are rich people out there that would trade their fortunes for their health back..

>>76313108
Also ther eis no getting good at trades. U can do something 10 times faster than anyone else and u still have to work a certain ain amount of hours, they all get paid hourly. There is no room for ambition beacuse it will just get u more work with no significant raise. Is it fucked up? Ye but its not capitalism fault actually. Its beacuse anyone can do it so it will always be limited on how much u can grow unless u open ur own business. Also who the fuck is passionate about manual labor? U dreamt of turning wrenches when u were a teen? We're u really into joints and bolts?

Sick and tired of pretending life isn't complete fucking dogshit at 30 if you haven't made it. There's no turning it around at 30, it's done. No you don't age like fine wine, literally everything in your body is going to shit. Wrinkles add character? like fuck they do.

There's teenagers getting pregnant and you have to watch "charisma on command" youtube videos like people can't immediately see through that bullshit. Other 30yr olds are taking their kids to school and you can't even muster up the courage to talk to a woman. And it doesn't change either. You have to be born with that ability. You just can't be social awkward past the age of 25. Its a red flag.

Fuck the gym too. Any muscle you think you will gain could have been made in 1/3rd of the time in your teens. That's when it really mattered. Yeah having a good body at 30 is great but having it at 18yrs old is better.

Friends, if you still have them, wont be around that much. If they have kids, you are just a 3rd wheel and a burden.

"Just travel bro"
Fuck that shit. what? spend thousands to go to a place where no one wants you just so you can get overcharged at a tourist trap? Fuck off cunt. Think the locals give a shit about the millionth fuckin tourist taking up space?

Just sick of the lies.

>>76313131
Why haven't u made it? Did u fall for the college is a scam meme? The dumbest britches in the world get into college and u couldn't? Shit u can even do good with community college. I have no idea what u mean about the no muscles gains. When I was 18 I wouldnt have been able to afford all this grass fed organic streak. I was a skinny fuck despite working out a lot. Ended up quitting until I wasn't too broke to afford decent food..

I know this due who spent 10 years on oxygen, got sober, got a compTA degree and landed a 85k a year job, now makes a 100k. He was in his mid 49s when he did this..


U are right about the freinds though. Its very depressing. But all the freidns u have when u are young are just snakes anyways..

>>76313139
I meant to say compTA cert, its a super easy cert anyone can pass and u can get an IT job with it..

>>76313131
>No you don't age like fine wine
you'll age like fine wine if you have
>not too much sun exposure
>face with good structural integrity
>lifestyle that isn't unhealthy
vast majority of 4channers lack at least one of these so them claiming they'll age like wine is laughable

>>76313145
U realize its not just about looks right?

Also there is more to life than women, even if u had worse luck with women thst doesnt menace life is over. I'd rather be financially well off than a broke playboy

>>76313145
Someone tell this guy women like money and status and sometimes even intelligence..

Brad pitt at 35

>>76313151
Forgot pic

>>76313131
>you have to watch "charisma on command" youtube videos
Well there's your problem, chief. You're trying to be someone your not, and some Youtube video isn't going to change that.
>you can't even muster up the courage to talk to a woman
Maybe grow a pair?
You just seem like a bit of a faggot bro, age or "making it" has nothing to do with it.

>>76313048
No you dont unc

>>76312867 (OP)
Zoomers are aging like shit. That's why they're pushing this narrative.
It's the first generation that grown up with their face stuffed to a phone 24hrs since the age of 3.

>>76313163
Unc is 38 and up. 25-38 is big bro. 18-25 is YN.. older people don't fall for bath faith vocabulary zoom zoom

Americans really mentally weimar'd themselves. always having the pressure on you of being a potential failure because you didn't live up to your own delusions of expectations, or perhaps they were silently instilled into the crowd trough 'them'. Anyway, being so pessimistic doesn't solve shit, and most of it is bullshit anyway. If you didn't understand more than a decade ago that you're not going to get better lives into old age than your parents and theirs before them then you didn't pay attention in class.

>>76313168
U think it shte blue light or the dopamine depletion or the 86 percent thc penjamin or the Chinese vapes?

Older (within reason) men are simply the better choice, that's why dating apps have age filters

Yeah, for me it basically feels like life started at 30. I'm 35 now and I'm peaking in every domain in life.

Sharper than ever, finishing a second degree, getting a better job, more money for less hours, more free time to do whatever I want.

A lot of that time is doing brain training, things like N-back task, learning a random language on Rosetta stone, playing intense multitasking strategy games like Supreme Commander:Forged Alliance that will make your brain BURN. Basically still learning as much as I would if I hadn't just finished my degree, expanding my knowledge all the time

Shaolin kung fu, better than ever. 3 minutes of horse stance followed by 45kg slow squats, six mornings a week. Forms, qi gong, punches and kicks straight after. My strength and endurance have never been better, my balance, my bodily control, the force of my kicks, the fluidity of my movements and the sharpness of my thrusts. I have come to LOVE the pain of the horse stance and I look forward to the experience of enduring it, while breathing as slowly and as calmly as possible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlSfZogLcvM

Bouldering, better than ever. There is no feeling like completely DESTROYING yourself on the wall, climbing until you literally fall off. Every other workout, you give in to muscular fatigue, pain, overall lack of energy at one point. With bouldering, if you go hard enough, your brain can't tell the difference between being in a safe space inside, and whether you are running away from a leopard climbing up a tree. All you have to do is look up, your body will just automatically try to get there, no matter what. Unreal shit.

Got a 21 year old gf who can't even come close to keeping up with me in bed and just keeps coming back for more. Super fit, used to be a pro athlete, loves climbing and taking long walks.

Never in my dreams could I have imagined living like this in my 20s.

>>76313131

So I gotta ask, what should someone who is over 30 and hasn't "made it" actually do?

>Fuck the gym too

You're right, anyone over 30 should quit working out. Even if they're jacked as fuck, that's not their place in the world anymore. Maybe /fit/ should have an age restriction, and anyone over 30 should be forced onto /r9k/ because it's OVER and they're just COPING, getting in the way of the people who currently matter.

You know it's funny, people like you really remind me of social media liberals and Redditors. They always scream about the current thing, but they never propose a solution.

An example would be this whole ICE thing. "ICE is deporting all of these people who are here illegally and its WROOOOONG!" I always want to ask these people, OK, then as an alternative, what do you propose we DO? Should we stop enforcing immigration law? Should we just make everyone who is currently here legal, like a mass amnesty bill? Should we just get rid of the border altogether and let anyone who wants to come here in, no matter the consequences? Of course, you can't ask them those questions, because they'll just start shouting at you, calling you names, and accusing you of all sorts of nasty things. Really though, they're tacitly implying a lot of those hypothetical solutions I named, but they're liars and cowards.

I have a feeling that if you reply at all, you'll reply accusing me of things and calling me names. But I'll ask it for shits and giggles. If I'm over 30, and I haven't "made it," what do you suggest I DO? Should I stop trying to better myself? Should I just work, then go home and watch TV, even though I don't enjoy that? I do like video games, am I still allowed to play those or is that one of those things only 18-29 year-olds are "allowed" to do? I enjoy working out, I enjoy seeing the results... should I stop lifting though, because it's not "my time" anymore?

>just sick of the lies

Yeah man, you tell those fuckin' phonies, man!

>>76313217
Get a compTA cert and become a network engineer or some other IT job, they lay well. There's lots of easy certs and degrees anyone can get

>>76313091
What the hell is that Finland in there? A mountain?

>>76312871
I agree. I'm 36 and still getting PRs consistently as a natty. 87kg bw and benched 150kg last Monday. It's true that most men over 30 look like shit but that's because they quit gym when they were fucking 22, eat like shit, drink too much and would rather cope about muh age than actually make an effort to get in shape. Actually from my own life experience I think the decline in most isn't even 30, most people let themselves go at like 23/24

>>76313220

Funny you say that, it's on my mind as a potential career change and I have the prereq for the compTIA class at a local vocational school.

I don't exactly like what I do for a living but the one area where I have sorta made it is the material side. I mean I'm barely middle class but I'm 34, I work in a field that pays relatively well but I'm at a crossroads as to where it's going, whether I should try and do something else, shit like that. I own a small house, and it's stressful to stay afloat on my own where I live, but it's doable for now.

The other stuff is kinda ehh. I only got seriously back into fitness a couple years ago, but I'm trying to get as fit as I can possibly get without roiding or going full-on autismo. I'm not married, no girlfriend, and I don't have crazy standards I just want to meet a woman who isn't obese and doesn't already have kids.

I guess I was asking that as more of a hypothetical, like OK, I'm this old and missed a lot of the "life milestones," the culture has largely turned against men like me compared to where it was 10-15 years ago, time is running out to marry and start a family plus there's still a lot of shit I would like to do. But if it's "over," should I just give up and drink myself to death?

>>76313217
God bless you newfriend

>>76313217
>reddit spacing
>>telling the doomer to go back
Lmao

>>76313282
Controllable material factors like food and moving your body definitely play a role, but I'm to the point where I believe that if you believe in a decline then you could experience it. I'm always rising, even when I fall

>>76313249
Probably the snowy mountains where people go skiing

>>76312867 (OP)
>old man stegnth (your incorrect spelling)
I remember when I was a teenager I needed lifting straps to hold onto the bar long enough to do a set of pullups. Now as a 47 year old I can hang on that bar as long as I want. Seriously, I can hang there one handed like a monkey. Same with deadlifts. I wish I'd had the grip strength I have now as a teen. I feel sorry for a little young prick I'm gonna grab by the throat if they annoy me.

>>76312934
women don't get better until the menopause kicks in, even then they aren't men's equal

>>76313057
>they'll just end up alone
alone is something that hurts and scares women

>>76312922
>You don’t see baby boomers doing this shit
lol wat? Boomers have been lamenting their “lost youth” since they were 25. Ever wonder why so many of them revere college? Take a look at their media sometime, it’s all “life ends at 40” and back pain complaints at 32 whilst they eat themselves into obesity. They spend untold amounts of wealth trying to get back what they lost. Difference with millennials is they resolved not to lose their youth in the first place.
>tfw zoomer and boomers share the same attitudes

>>76312871
I became an alcoholic pretty much the day I hit 30. For some reason the urge to consume excessive amounts of alcohol became irresistible.

>>76312934
The only things women get with age is body count, new mental illnesses (gotta catch them all) and wrinkles
NO woman gets wiser with age, NO woman gets prettier with age, NO woman achieves any material success (by herself, nepo babies and divorce rape don't count)
t. i talk with a lot of women in their 40s they're fucking retarded

I grew a thick, full beard for the first time in my life when I was 33. It was always patchy until then, but then I got a massive growth spurt for some reason.

>>76313282
>>76313308
This. I'm 32 and constantly breaking PR's, I did 100kg bench for 5 reps yesterday and squat is going up aswell and career wise i'm landing better jobs, for some reason my skin looks better aswell.

>>76312867 (OP)
why is that guy getting shilled here recently? I remember him from ages ago

>>76312871
It's more like 40's, people in their 30's have more muscle on a vergae than people in their 20's, but they're fatter
sarcopenia only really hits in your 40's

>>76312867 (OP)
>Thats when ur test peaks and then only lowers 1 percent a year.
>>76312871

Agreed. This is a population statistic. The average of the population shifts/lowers by 1% every year. This is caused generally by chronic conditions catching up with you (e.g., being obese your whole life), not being active, etc. Most of the damage of being obese and inactive tends to show itself in your 30s and beyond.
Active individuals without disease don't really see test drop until they stop being fit and/or hit like 70.

>>76312867 (OP)
I'm 36 been working out off and on all my life. I'm not super strong but I'm definitely over 1234 for reps and still look dyel haha been more serious the past year and been slamming arms and incline bench and the looks I get guys, like damn this bitch wants to lick my shit rn I guarantee it. I've been way more saucy and random and I've been getting so much ass it's stupid. It's fucking stupid how much ass I am just conquering.
I love being a boomer

>>76313789
damn i wish i were gay sounds like you’re having a blast this pride month lol

>>76312948
This. I look great in my 40s, 15% bf and jacked, but in my 20s I was a psycho, skinnyfat to fat, dyel, unemployed. This is why I'm still a virgin. It's never too late to turn your life around but some mistakes are forever. It's over.

>>76313870
>It's never too late to turn your life around

>It's over.
make up your damn mind unc

>>76312867 (OP)
>28 now
>Facial aesthetics look better than ever
>Norwooding hard
this is probably my peak, unless I go to turkey to get plugs

>>76312945
It is definitely genetic. I’m 30 and Norwood 1 and never done anything special. My maternal grandfather kept his hair his whole life. I’m only 5’9”. You can’t have everything.

>>76312867 (OP)
I feel like 28-32 is peak. If you play your cards right. It takes most men until then to figure out how to be in great shape and have good money. Plus some facial maturation actually can make you more attractive. That said, that is all only if you take care of yourself. If your idle it is down hill after 25.

>>76312867 (OP)
What's the best safe gear to jump on? Some guy recommended me to jump on a growth hormone? Any advice boys?

> 176cm 70kg. decent shape, I'm very fit but visually small. What weight should I be aiming for?

>>76313108
A job is a job. You have to adjust your expectations in life based on what you earn and how much time off you have

Most of you work a shit job, waste thousands of hours playing videogames, shitposting here, and crying about your lack of romance and sex. Your whole life is a failure

>>76314011
Not me bro I get tons of ass at 36 lol

>>76313856
Lol when the zoomets huddle around because you're doing 225lb clean and jerks it'll make more sense to you. Do you really have no pride in being mired lmao lmao kwab

>>76314042
hell yeah brother everyone is huddling to watch the middle aged dyel and then line up to give him ass afterwards lol

>>76314042
and then everyone clapped

>>76313091
>Australia
>massive country
>lots of different climates.
It's 95% desert, which NO ONE lives in.
Literall 99% of the ENTIRE POPULATION of Australia lives in FIVE CITIES. URBAN TOWERS on the coastline.

Dude. You're an idiot.

most normal people are successful in their 30s. Not me though I’m a complete failure and you would even believe how pathetic I am even if I wrote it out. Turning 30 was actually kind of the point for me where I changed from apathy about wasting my life to outright misery, giving up, and just thinking about how much of a retarded, pathetic, worthless, miserable failure I am and how much I want to die every single day for three years now. If you are unfortunate enough to still be a loser in your 30s, knowing how everyone around you is married, children, house, rich, good career, hobbies, friends, life milestones while you’ve still done nothing, literally all you think about every waking moment is how much you want to be dead, but you’re too much of a loser to even do that.

>>76313056
Most people view the utterly worthless to society white collar frequently work for home job that you’re ranting about as literally the pinnacle of working life though

>>76313220
computer science is dead and you will be jobless. the "just learn to code bro" meme has finally sailed. "just get the comptia A+, Net+, Sec+ bro and you will get a 6 figure work from home job"
absolutely ridiculous some people still believe this shit. just go to the military and they will pay for that shit for you and you get actual work experience on top of being a veteran.

>>76314232
good, as it should. the most useless field on the face of the earth and yet somehow it become the last meme and the most highly paid

>>76313146


That's just dumb. What's the point of even being alive if you're not fucking SOMETHING? Dudes get rich to get money it's why most chads peak in high school they didn't see the need to apply themselves as they got pussy handed to them without working for it.

All money does is give you Chad's leftovers.

>>76314232
True and real, but as someone who has been in the field for almost a decade the new entries don't know shit. Muh coding bootcamps, niggas can't even comprehend a memory model.

>>76312867 (OP)
This is true and I fell for the meme. I scrambled like an idiot pussymaxxing in college instead of making money and stacking bitcoin

>>76314409
>been in the field for a decade
what do you do in this field that actually improves society?

Clavicles grow till 25y old.
Thats were girls and guys get big and it starts flippin

>>76313205
ok let's get you to bed grandpa, you are having delusions again

>>76313131
You're a little bitch. Anyone who has the "it's over for me" mindset at any age was never going to make it. Half you losers are heavy weed smokers or drinkers. I despise losers like you

>>76313205
I'm about to be 34. Same thing. Everything has just been getting better and better. I'm in the best shape I've ever been in, can afford all sorts of luxuries. Life's great man

I am 38 and I am already talking and thinking about retirement. Its over, isn't it?

>>76315184
>Its over, isn't it?
Yes because of how you're talking like a faggot.

>>76314477
>improves society
Not much. I've been involved in research before and I work in a non-profit company because I don't like working for the overlords BUT I end up working for the overlords indirectly anyway so.

>>76312867 (OP)
Soillennial incel mental gymnastics to live vicariously through Chads who actually fuck are funny considering the "women love older guys" is a completely anecdotal redpill cope
Let me guess, you also look 18 at 35 and everyone asks for your ID because you're a manchild ?

>>76313631
>Difference with millennials is they resolved not to lose their youth in the first place.
That's just means you're mentally ill and peter pan syndrome

>>76313870
>I look great in my 40s
>This is why I'm still a virgin.
i don't remember writing this post. you are literally me.

Zoomers are entering the workforce in the worse time ever. It makes sense for them to hate everyone older than them

>>76315535
Zoomers genuinely dont care about decrepit incels, on the other hand this place has a morbid obsession for them
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/Zoomer%20/

this woman looked like this, beautiful, fit, beauty queen, lawyer, tv personality, extremely bubbly and happy to everyone. she wrote an article about how all women get thrown in the trash when they turn 30 and how horrible it is how society views women over 30 like absolute shit,she then turned 30 and jumped off her apartment building.

>>76312867 (OP)
This whole "life starts at 30" thing is a cope. Sure, if you are already very healthy and fitness oriented, and stay that way, you can run all the way to 50 with minimal strength loss. But you WILL feel a difference. Sleep is a little less good. Less energy and endurance. Slower recovery. Those all nighters you used to pull effortlessly suddenly get you sick.

All these old men LARPing as 20-somethings are in total denial and juicing themselves up on HRT. Everything they say is bullshit. Only old men who feel old try to act young.

>>76315568
And I guarantee that if any honest, hard-working, good-looking man approached her and said "let's settle down and have a family, I don't make a ton but I have steady work and will take care of you" she would laugh in his face because she thought her status should land her a movie star or pro athlete. So like all women who misunderstand their own value, she waited and waited, and eventually even the "average losers" stopped approaching her. At that point all you can do is go to bars and get fucked by slobs. And worse, all her status was based on physical beauty which quickly fades starting at 30, so she wouldn't even have the dopamine rush of her pageants and airtime anymore. Is it any wonder she jumped once she realized that was her future?

>>76314158
Yes, and all those different cities and towns are in different climates, or are you telling me that Darwin is the same as Brisbane is the same as Melbourne?
And is Bondi the same climate as Katoomba even though they are within 100km of each other in the Sydney area ? Is Canberra the same as Adelaide?
Are you even Australian? Go to Townsville and then to Hobart and tell me it's the same climate.
>It's 95% desert
lmao, so you are saying the only place in Australia where nobody lives is in the large boring mono-climate desert part (which is not even true, some people live in places like Alice springs and Kalgoorlie, etc), leaving most people to live in the parts where the climate varies widely due to latitude and terrain, what a self owning retard.

>>76314158
you have no idea what you're talking about faggot I can vouch for Australia having very varied climates. Just shut the fuck up, you're retarded.
>>76312867 (OP)
Literally woke up today at 29 and looked at myself in the mirror and thought how much better looking I am than I was like 10 or even 5 years ago. Some of us just have the genetics. Half of my friends look shittier at my age, half of them look better.
This has been confirmed to me since I was extremely bitchless in my early to mid 20's and have been having no problem in the latter half

>>76315594
Stop fapping and ur sleep will reset. 30 year olds are stronger than 20 yesr olds, thats a fact. U might not have a6 pack(i still do) but a 6 pack is useless unless u live near a beach or go the pool a lot..

>>76315544
Zoomer are the incel dude lmao

>>76313217
>So I gotta ask, what should someone who is over 30 and hasn't "made it" actually do?

Rope

>>76314232
My 40 year old friend did it but let me just ignore that cuz u said its not true..

>>76312867 (OP)
Why men cum until 100 years old make babies women stupid no babies after 30?

>>76315691
totally, which is why grown ass geriatrics have zoomer derangement syndrome. not the other way around
Men with kids dont worry about younger people 24/7

At a certain point, men come to realize that they're in a pressure cooker and will either come out a diamond or be turned into diamond dust.

Ignore the demoralization agents and the hope merchants. Commit to the path, walk if you must, but always keep moving forward.

Best of luck anons.

>>76313062
The reason ufc champs are usually in their 30s is because of several external factors so it isn't really true to say they're at their best then. Lots of them make it to the ufc in their early 20s and have to spend years working their way up the rankings before they even have a chance at fighting for the title. Losing a fight can set you back several more years. Name value is another thing, the ufc likes to build up a contender before they fight for the title. When they can, they will give sitting champs tons of rematches in hopes they can continue their winstreaks vs previously beaten opponents for brand stability. Weightclass matters too. Smaller fighters fizzle out earlier, bigger fighters are slower and can get away with more since most of them suck and can knock eachother out with less punches.

What is true though, is that skill wise in the ufc fighters tend to peak in their late 20s/early 30s. You also hav

>>76315744
>At a certain point, men come to realize that they're in a pressure cooker and will either come out a diamond or be turned into diamond dust.
this

>>76315684
Cope. You will learn.

>>76312867 (OP)
>health sites tell us that testosterone dropping after the age of 25-30 is le normal and TRT is totally valid for those in their late 20s and 30s
I hate this new fucking narrative. This is the same shit they're pulling on young women with perimenopausal symptoms.
No, it isn't normal to start significantly declining in fertility and hormonal activity within the peak of adult vitality.
Fucking fatty males who sit on their ass all day are shitting up the statistics, and women who were on birth control since they were 10 are the reason why their menstrual cycles are getting fucky.
Microplastics may or may not be a cause of this, but since we can already assume that mass amounts of microplastics have been in our bloodstream since at least the 50s-60s, it has to be more than that.
I really believe that it's the fact we normalize fat fucks and treat them as a statistical average for men and women, even though their physical health and hormonal health is completely messed up due to how weight affects the cardiovascular system and hormonal production in our bodies.
Women do take birth control for other medical reasons, such as PCOS, but the fact it's normal to put them on BC when they are not at the age of sexual activity is probably a big reason why we are seeing strange "menopausal" symptoms in women who are barely entering their 30s. You're putting your body in a state where it thinks its pregnant, and it keeps a static hormonal profile that the female body isn't supposed to be in long-term.
This shit is so retarded. Anyone who's claiming that your knees are going to give out and hurt when you get to a certain age is either skinnyfat (sedentary and out of shape) or some obese lardass.
I was told by my fat relatives that I wouldn't stay in the shape I'm in for long, but it's been over 10 years since I was told this, I am older than they were when they told me that, and I am still skinny. I just have the self control to not have to drink 5 Big Gulps a day.

Tbh why is this even debatable
We all know that in basically every single sport that a man is generally going to peak in athleticism from around 28-33

>>76316120
They're going to peak in performance because of experience, their atleticism only gets worse from that point on
Otherwise average men go to shit the moment they hit 30.

>>76316166
Speed yes
Strength athletes often peak in their 30s

>>76312931
You can get (or stay) well built well into your 40's, 50's, 60's. Then you fall off a cliff. Arnold was 43 when filming T2, Hugh Jackman is in his 50's, The guy who plays Reacher is 42. If you haven't got a career by your 40's it's absolutely over but not for your muscles.

Maybe if you are a homosexual man looking for a top, but objectively, women can stay attractive up to 50 even, depending on how well they take care of themselves. The average woman is attractive to us by default, we are attracted to women on the basis of biological sexual attraction, even gay men get this. However, when we look at men, only ~1% are fuckable, and 90% of these will stop being attractive past 23.

>>76316351
Gen y are all latent homosexuals, especially the ones who post here. They literally cannot stop thinking about manly men aging like muh wine

>>76316351
Lmao, LMAO even..

>>76316109
It is normal for women.. They aren't at the peak of vitality at 30. They have crows feet and eye bags(from the xanax and anti deoressants)

>>76315734
Statically speaking u are wrong but I know u people dont like numebrs..

>>76316439
>Statically speaking
10$ bet you're going to post a pop magazine "survey" """"study"""". 10$ bonus you're brown.

>>76316445
So there is no population collapse? Souece: your feelings?

>>76313870
My brother you need to have sex with a prostitute. Its been too long. Save some money and go to eastern Europe, Mexico or SEA depending on whats cheaper for you. Please before its too late

>>76316453
The +30 yos arent having 10 and 20 year olds, which is why the bottom of the pyramid is narrowing. It's none of college age young adults and younger people business or fault that your generation are incels or serial divorcees
You've completely torn apart your own point

>>76312948
There are many reasons. You could be doing things the wrong way, you could have addictions, psychological problems, you could be run off your feet and not have enough time, you might be distracted or have no information or money.

Sure the peak of anything is generally in 20s, if you had started as a small child and worked hard on it. World class sports performance proves it to us. But the average person doesn't have to go all downhill, not yet anyway.

Nice demoralization though, would get baited again.

I'm 27 now, started lifting at 25, if my life is still the same misery and my physique is still not god tier at the 5yr 30yo mark I'll just blast the nastiest roids and Speedrun death, I cba living a miserable pathetic life to 60s+

>>76314232
>"just get the comptia A+, Net+, Sec+ bro
44 year old engineer here, started out in IT then got an EE degree and my PE, but still in the tech field. These certs were always jokes. I can tell you from experience since 1999 when I graduated high school taht they were never, ever worth anything. They do not and have never put anyone ahead of other entry level candidates. That was all marketing by CompTIA. I never got any of that shit and never saw any difference in success/hiring rate between my peers of those who got them and those that didn't, then when I became the guy who is doing the interviewing, I never paid attention to them and I have never once brought any of them up in conversation.

>>76312867 (OP)
>Its so fucking hilarious how zoomer males try to paint a fake narrative about it being over at 30
You'd do the same if you looked 40 at 20 bro.

>>76314382
if you have money you can fuck 10/10 whores

>>76316484
>But the average person doesn't have to go all downhill, not yet anyway.
nobody said that
it's funny how even anons have to use toxic positivity instead of accepting reality because they can't accept reality without being demoralised. I have some pessimistic views but they don't lower my mood.

>>76316608
>seeing guys who were already winners at life being athletes, go to a top college, then are all attractive 10 years later and at some formal event, all likely rich with top careers, have wives or no problem with women, hobbies, zest for life
Must be nice

>>76316120
Copium from a fat couch potato or noodle arm poindexter in that age range.

>>76315155
This kind of feels like when you're raping a lobby in some shooter and everybody calls you a hacker.

Thank you for the compliment.

I am 31 years old and I never even kissed a girl

>>76312919
They had phones in Sobibor?

>>76313154
Pitt Brad at 53

>>76316842
I know you feel like you're missing out, but you're really not lol women are literally fucking retarded. You feel bad because your hormones are telling you to fuck, but 99.9999999% of the time she's just a whore looking for filler in her life. If you luck out and get the 1 in a billion that likes you for you and would stick by your side through a fire that deformed you, happily, then you can die in peace of having a good partner. It isn't like how it was in the 80s and 90s. It was easier to settle down and have a few kids. Economic pressure all over the world is causing the same issues

>>76316842
Just harass girls at this point

>>76314232
>My job is great and we also have one of the highest career suicide rates! XD

Just hit 30 this month. After 2 years consistent lifting I’ve got myself in better shape than ever. Looking forward to getting leaner, bigger, and stronger over the next few years. Meanwhile zoomer colleagues are going bald.

>>76316351
>we are attracted to women on the basis of biological sexual attraction
Mostly based on fertility, which disappears after 40

>>76312867 (OP)
Men peak in social and economic power + looks and vitality between 35-55 yeah, but if you were a loser NEET in your 20s you aren't going to magically get a bump at 35-55. If you were working out and making money throughout your 20s you would be rewarded later on yes, but you won't get any kind of magic boost. Men peak in physical attractiveness probably only a few years later than women, probably at around 22-27

>>76317106
You sound weirdly bitter about them

I've had more fun/more sex/more freedom from age 28-30 than at any other time in my life.

Around 30 you are finally an established man, you have like 5-7 years of experience in some industry, you start making real money and physically you are just stronger, more masculine than some 20-22 year old dweeb.

I'd say 28-35 is the golden age. I'm 30 and haven't had a woman older than 26 yet. All of them so far have been 22-25 mostly and that's because I choose not to go younger.
You have more to offer and more of what women want in a man at this age. You can actually DO things and AFFORD things. Go on trips, go out somewhere nice etc.

People that say you are dead by 30 are the same type of losers from older times that peaked in highschool. Once they enter real world, they become amazon workers stacking boxes.
Your early to mid twenties should be grinded away to make a foundation for you as a man.

>>76312871
>>76312867 (OP)
Your test drops 1% per year after 21, so it's very gradual.

>>76318385
>How to be a betabuxx 101

>>76318420
Man sitting at home watching shitty movies and fucking/drinking all the time gets old after a while.
That's what I did most of the time in my early 20s when I couldn't afford shit and didn't even have a car to go places.

Now whole world is open, I actually get to enjoy time. You can call that what you want. Fucking some tramp in a club bathroom or calling random tinder whores to your apartment is not a life accomplishment to be proud of.

Zoomers really think we buy into their "Unc" shit KEK. You think we don't notice why you do it? It is mostly Zoomer men trying to "shame" millennials into not fucking their sluts. They are obsessed with age, the other day someone posted a video of a bunch of faggot zoomers harassing a 22 year old guy for chatting up some 18 year old. Look we get it, you have been feminized from birth and you are not getting any pussy but using your youth as a personality trait will bring you a lot of suffering later on.

>>76318682
Holy unc incel meltdown, completely buckbroken by zoomgods

>>76313638
I was a heavy drinker around 19-22 now in my 30's I don't have the desire to drink at all, not even a sip

>>76318731
How much did you weigh?

im 30, broke, and bench 225 for maybe 3-4 reps
id take being retarded and 20-25 any day of the week

>>76313205
>Shaolin kung fu
>n-back task
>bouldering

shut up, white dork.

what's next, dungeons and dragons?

>>76318682
5 years age gap is HUGE for a zoom zoom, and is considered pdf

18 years old dating 23 years old.

idk. i am 30 and retired. Most men older than men or even 50+ are still working and will not achieve half of what I have.

>>76319250
And every zoomer will be stuck in a 9-5 when they get to my age. lol.

As long as you reach natty peak by/before 30 and continue to lift to maintain, you'll have nothing to worry about.
People settle down and have other worries, that's when junk food and goyslop comes in and excuses not to lift.