Anybody successfully quit porn for a long time? How did it help your general mental health and drive to succeed?
I have been a coomer for as long as I can remember and im dedicated to quitting porn and therefore doing nofap for an extended amount of time to achieve it.
Im 5 days in and noticing music sounds better lately. Early symptom of success. Hopefully everything becomes easier and more pleasurable in life post-porn.
>>76339226 (OP)Once I went 45 days without nutting but that's because my relationship ended and I was too sad to get it up. Felt peaceful tho, could focus on other things.
>>76339226 (OP)I only do it when I go through a maniac/insomniac phase and cba to jack it. Always felt more energized during that time but idk if it's from no fap. I've been getting bored of porn lately tho so I might just give no fap a shot again
I was hospitalized for about 15 weeks due to medical malpractice, so I couldn't nut for that stretch of time (nor did i really want to because i was so close to death), following my discharge from the hospital I was in total bliss not having any sexual desires whatsoever. I truly felt like a new and improved version of myself because i could focus on recovery and other passions without being obscured by the allure of pus. things kinda fell to shit shortly after because my gf ironically was in heat while i was gone and I had to force myself to get back into that state of mind.
I was at my most productive phase when I was off the nut, having read tons of books during that stretch of time and genuinely improving myself in a lot of ways (financial literacy, improving office skills, etc).
Plato actually has a thing about this very topic in The Republic where one of people questioning Socrates sings such high praise about being old, having been freed from his animal-like desires for lust.
>quitting an unhealthy obsession with porn
good for you in every way
>iron grip on never jerking off because uh not cumming is good i think
midwit. balance in all things
>>76339537My goal is to not watch porn or fap for 3-6 month. It sounds drastic but they call it a 'reboot' in nofap circles.
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>>76339226 (OP)The first time I did nofap I feel like it worked really well, a few weeks into it I ended up hooking up with a coworker and losing my virginity. Wouldn’t recommend hooking up with a coworker though lmao.
Every time I’ve tried it since then I just feel horny all the time and get pain in my groin (blue balls) which scares me and I end up breaking my streak. I have a girlfriend now so the point is moot.
I haven’t watched porn in years. You can quit watching it without quitting jacking off.
>>76339541go for it man, that's a good amount of time to break the grip on anything that has a hold over you. just remember afterwards it's okay and healthy to bust a nut, not to goon for hours a day. godspeed
>>76339226 (OP)I started a few days ago (I’ve done up to a month in the past) and I’ve more effortlessly gotten chores done since. Now I’m actually trying to reply to my hinge matches and see if one will come over.
And I was hit with a realization. I still don’t want to. I don’t want to fuck a chick I don’t care about. The only girl I care about probably doesn’t care about me and she’s genuinely crazy, not a chick I could marry or would ever be in a serious relationship with.
So now idk what to do. It’s helped me get this far only like a week in, make this realization. But idk how I’m supposed to spend my time and effort hoping maybe I could care about a new woman. Like if I don’t already why bother?
>double checkedNevermind the problem is most aren’t hot enough. Found one hotter. Lol. Yeah nofap is the way
Yes, more energy to be more of myself. I didn't feel out of place, I was perfectly at peace with who I was as a person at the time. Think about it logically, cooming (masturbating or with a woman, it better be with a woman anon....) releases a huge load of dopamine. If you ever felt like a zombie after watching too much TV or playing too much vidya, then you know what it's like to fry your dopamine receptors. Imagine doing that every day, maybe more than one, you would feel like shit. Another logical outlook: 1 sperm can create a being that can last 120-150 years old. There are millions of sperm in a load. That is very taxing on your body to make these guys. When you reach yoiur ball capacity, you body eventually re-absorbs the little guys and puts it to better use. Theres a lot of info out there anon, somethings I can't describe because this is a fitness board but its defintely been known for thousands of years the benefits of not busting
>>76339226 (OP)i did it for 60 days and was incredibley horny the whole time and shot so much cum when i decided to finally jerk off.
I didn’t masturbate for the first time until I was 23 years old after finishing college. I was a worthless pathetic loser as a non-masturbator. I’ve been a worthless pathetic loser since. Not fapping did nothing for me
>>76339226 (OP)Yes, but you have to get off this website. You are never going to quit porn if you are constantly being exposed to softcore porn.
T. No porn for 8 months
>>76339559i'm like this too, I seriously cannot be bothered trying to woo women to have sex with them and even the thought of getting that far is boring to me I prefer jacking off to fat pornstars
>>76339806Wtf? You jacked off for the first time at 23 years of fucking age?
Why?
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I'm 29 years old and have my life in complete order
I am successful, I own a home, I'm handsome, physique is fantastic and I have a great family and group of friends
In my truly private life I have nearly 0 desire to meet a woman, and honestly I find most of them to be annoying and stupid. Every year I tell myself I have to meet a good woman and yet I end up not caring by the end of the day and just continuing on in my life.
I also wank about twice per week to chubby pornstars. I wonder if my porn/wanking is correlated with my hate for women?
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>>76339226 (OP)I just broke a noporn streak because I wanted to measure the size of my penis.
Main reason I don't want to watch porn is because I liked watching things that I hated trying out in real life. It also became a time-consuming activity, at least on the hentai side, because I'd seen everything.
>>76339551>just remember afterwards it's okay and healthy to bust a nutLiterally wrong
Masturbating for any reason is horrible for you
It’s worse for your health than regularly drinking and smoking
>>76339542nofap is dumb; quitting porn is the important part.
Most people won't want to masturbate without porn anyway, at least not anywhere near the same frequency.
>>76339226 (OP)ive done nofap and noporn for 8 months, i feel nothing different
>>76339226 (OP)I guess compared to the average person I do masturbate A LOT. I'm 25 and for as long as I can remember it's been at least once a day, I'd say average throughout my life, like 2.3 times per day. I've definitely gone multiple days where I can easily jerk it 10 times in a day. Not circumcised, that probably helps.
Anyway. I'm on a 4 day streak rn. I can say that I definitely have attributed a lot of success to no fap. I quit porn about 8 months ago but I still jerk off to pictures of girls in swimsuits and shit like that. So not sure if that counts, but I've stayed off pornhub and xvideos pretty easily bcus of that.
But whenever I am on a 2-4 week no fap streak, things just tend to light up for me with women. I'm sure some of it is placebo, but also I just get really horny so I'm more willing to do things like approach a girl who I perceive to be way out of my league and just go balls to the walls with it without any guilt/shame/embarrassment etc.
Most of the times I talk to women and actually make moves have been on no fap streaks, otherwise I genuinely cannot feel much motivation to pursue some random girl in a club or at the gym or café etc.
As far as actual sex goes I'm not a virgin but I've not gotten laid in forever and no fap doesn't change that, I'm just not into hook ups or "pointless" sex. I've always wished no fap could put me over the edge, and I could break into the type of guy that bangs everyone in sight, but that is more about your personality and morals, not your sex drive / horniness.
And desu the last time I had sex, I banged an absolute mid, off a 2 week no fap streak, and while it was hilarious in the moment, in hindsight I was really upset with myself. So yeah, for me it works, just kinda more conflicted internally or too picky rather than actually suffering from a low sex drive.
>>76339901false. stop spreading weird misinfo.
>>76340065Besides being uncircumcised, are you me?
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>>76339226 (OP)Been clear of porn for about 2 years
I relapsed recently from frustration of fucking up a date
Gooned to ai chatbots and hentai afterwards
It felt like shit, wasted multiple hours and had a headache the rest of the day
Noporn will save you a lot of time and improve your health, mostly mental health beacuse even if you try to steer clear of degenerate fetish shit it's unavoidable on porn sites in 2k25
can't speak for nofap, I tried it a couple of times, but all that ended up happening is me getting very painful erections, problems sleeping and wet dreams, but maybe that's just beacuse I have a really high libido so expirience may vary
I havent jacked off in 16 days as I am on vacation with family. I am so fucking horny right now and I am going to bust so hard in 2 days when I get home.
>>76339226 (OP)From my experience you stop sexualizing the world and start figuring out what you actually need. No porn is awesome because it removes all cuck behaviour.
You are no longer a peeping tom, looking in a window, staring at a screen, the outside man. Just stop that stuff, its a weapon, call it a demon if you need too. No more fetishes, no more pursing sexualized "content", no more "I have to fit in" mind set and behaviour.
As for no fap, I dont know the benifits but I am about 4 months in and all I notice is having an amazing amout of energy, plus I hope the have a wife and start having kids soon God willing. I just cant be bothered with spending time arousing myself then releasing the energy, it just seems so gay now. I need a womans touch for that and I wont have it any other way. But like I said no idea how far no fap can go. But I will find out eventually.
The last girl I was dating I treated like a sex doll and after I broke up with her I just realized how bad my previous behaviour with porn was and stopped all of it cold turkey. I just dont want to think like that anymore.
>>76339226 (OP)I did back like 10 years ago
It made me really social but sort of emotionally unhinged and have little ability to focus.
Yeah I think the one week mark with no porn or masturbating is about as good as it gets and you get diminishing returns energy-wise and emotionally
>>76339827I'm the same as you but I think it's not hate of women, it's fear of them
>>76341370Just joink it in the bathroom
I quit for like two months when I was 18 or so. It wasn't even concious at first but I decided to keep not doing it. If I did that now it would be very difficult
>>76339226 (OP)i was much more successful in my life when i was a pothead and chronic mastubator.
>>76341530kek I always think about that. I try to optimize like
>don't vape>don't drink too much coffee>don't jack off too much>get 8 hours of sleepmeanwhile there is some fag out there smoking crack beating his meat 5 times a day cheating on his wife eating literal garbage etc. doing better than me
oh well, what are you gonna do
You should wear a chastity cage so you don't accidentally jerk off
>>76341562Hmm. It's almost like none of that shit actually matters when it comes to success. HMMMMM.
>>76341623you're right to an extent, but I just don't have that unbreakable willpower to turbofuck life while living on my own terms. I feel best when I am checking off little checkboxes and "earn" my success.
I'm on 18 months NoFap, the longest i've been so far. I'll give a quick timeline.
>first 2 weeks
More irritable, easily rage, very tempting to coom.
>weeks 2 thru 4
felt the peak of high T, women treat me differently
>month 1 thru month ~5
descent into FLATLINE. Libido disappeared. Dick shrivels up. No morning wood. Felt pretty shitty in general.
>After month 6
Started to get mental and spiritual benefits. Mental: sharper, better at planning things, definitely seeing the big picture of everything. Spiritual: harder to explain, but started noticing things more, synchronicities, better intuition, seeing the good side of suffering or challenges, not phased by anything. NO ANXIETY AT ALL.
At some point I also needed less sleep. Was functioning just fine on 2 hrs of sleep for multiple nights in a row. Morning wood came back and erections were massive. Flaccid ween hung way lower. No need for caffeine, quit it entirely. No desire to coom or goon. Haven't gotten sick this entire time. Can tolerate extreme cold without extra clothing (I'm white, so not that abnormal).
At some point my attitude towards women changed. I would be browsing chans and see porn and just get the ick, like looking at a disease, or clearly seeing the mental illness involved with those girls and the jews that produce that smut. My preference for women IRL changed to notice more feminine and NICE behavior. I see sluts and get a bad taste in my brain: drama, entitlement, all the bullshit that comes with these women. There's more that I'll type as I think of it.
>>76339226 (OP)i never jerked off until my 18th birthday and squeezed 5 mind numbing orgasms from it
>>76341684damn nice, what is your age, what is your end goal, you bang any whores during this time, saving yourself for marriage, what exactly
How do you guys deal with blue balls?
>>76342112I'm 28. I'm getting the urge to start a family. Becoming friendly with a couple of NICE girls, who I otherwise wouldn't have noticed much. Low drama, kind soul, pretty smile. There is a physiognomy that you don't notice while on Coom brain, but I think its the type of girl who would make a good mother. So I want to find one who wants kids and maybe the next load I blow will be what creates my first kid. If its possible. Not sure what to expect after nearly 2 years of semen retention. Will probably explode after the first pump.
>you bang any whoresnope. no ejaculation at all. developed a disgust for aggressively slutty women after the flatline phase ended.
>>76342291NTA but do you have any advice to deal with the urges? How did you get this far?
>tfw didn't coom for a full 36 hours (recent record)
>thought tha 6ft negress with medium tits, dreads, etc checking me out was hot
>started hitting on her in the store and left with her number
yeah, i'm going to stick to indiscriminate coomery that forces me to find only fit white women worth breaking a sweat for
i'm disgusted with nofap and what it did to me
>>76342314I had an episode with a girl IRL where my porn-induced ED led to so much embarrassment and was a huge wake up call. I couldn't coom and lost the boner. The Shame of that pushed me through the urges. Otherwise, I just doubled-down on workouts and work so that I was tired by the end of the day, when most of my urges would peak.
>>76342326i did fuck the negress raw and the sex was amazing
>>76342370I'm very happy for you anon. I hope you wrapped it up.
>>76339226 (OP)Good. Start with cutting porn from your life and then move to cutting masturbation
>>76342333Did you experience pain in the beginning? Whenever I try to abstain I get brain fog and blue balls that prevent me from concentrating and it's very demoralizing because I really want to quit
>>76339226 (OP)The only thing that matters is the temptation to look at porn and asking where it comes from. Whether or not you happen across something pornographic is inconsequential. I played the Resident Evil 2 remake recently and there's the scene where the gas station employee's office has pinup girls with their asses and tits out, and I didn't get hit with any temptation.
But I read this post yesterday and it instantly killed any temptation I might have had otherwise that night. I didn't feel an ounce of compulsion to consume porn despite doing it every day consistently for like 15+ years since early childhood. I realized, if you address the temptation, and think about the temptation itself until you find an unreasonable or ridiculous side to it, and then you can uproot the issue entirely.
I'm almost jealous of smokers and alcoholics, where the problem is so obviously indefensible.
>it's poison and you're killing yourself But for porn, it's the opposite, every doctor and his mother says that porn is healthy and normal and natural because x, y, and z
I'm not scared of masturbating itself, but after seeing porn in this light I can't bring myself to even keep my bookmarked tabs or my secret hoard of downloaded videos anymore.
>>76339226 (OP)i did. i did it for a month. i lost gains. huge spike in gains in the first 3 weeks, then a drastic loss week in the 4th week.
overall not worth. just dont overfap
>>76342394Yes. Physical pain in the beginning, even worse because I also had a varicocelle on my left nut. Another benefit of 18 months nofap btw, varicocelle significantly reduced.
But the mental pain was worse so I powered thru it. Those first 2 weeks were nothing, looking back. Flatline phase was harder.
>>76342459I understand, I really respect that. I failed to achieve and maintain an erection each time I attempted to have sex, so like you I realized how far gone I was, but my main problem are blue balls since I cannot concentrate so I can't really distract myself, I can't read or watch some TV show, it's almost as if I was chained to this addiction and I'm getting desperate
>>76339226 (OP)cant do it
if it was normal porn maybe, havnt watched that in a while. but I got a VR headset and a nice fleshlight and those nuts are insane, way better than vanilla sex
>>76342403>the gas station employee's office has pinup girls with their asses and tits out, and I didn't get hit with any temptationWhy would you? Fucking addict
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>>76342524I just had sex with this thing in the gas station restroom. The post nut clarity made me contemplate suicide
>>76342291it’s great that you found a fondness for homely women other men don’t look at
>>76342534It could be that I'm just getting older. But as a coomer I never saw the signs of how much hassle a woman could cause in my life. Since I'm abstinent, homeliness has become the primary factor I evaluate in women.
>>76342723real nigga shit. guaranteed to have a loving wife
>>76339226 (OP)I'm doing a thing where I only fap once a week using the fleshlight with a condom on. I still watch porn when I use the fleshlight and I peek sometimes.
But that's not enough anon.
I know, but the alternative was fapping 2 hours every night with death grip to the most degenerate porn.
This is better right now. My dream is to be able to get an erection with minimal mental stimulus and fuck the fleshlight to completion. It's a dream, I know, but we need ambition in life.
>>76342764but why the condom
>>76342781I'm training being able to stay hard with less stimulus and as a bonus it's less hassle cleaning up.
Also this way I finally found out that I have a latex allergy. I thought it was a meme made by people who don't want to use condoms, but I actually do have one and that's why my first sexual experiences many years ago were painful (and traumatizing)
I did nofap for about 3 years. I don't fap compulsively now, and there's no real schedule. That's the biggest thing I got out of it. Noporn is way more important. That shit changes how you see women.
>>76342528honestly, not bad, did you meet her in the gas station lmfao
>>76342528she's cute you homo
>>76342800>3 yearsChecked. Did you get a dopamine reset? What happened when you came first time after the 3 years?
>>76342830I mean, my life wasn't much different with or without fapping. Still isn't. So I wouldn't say there was a huge dopamine reset. I get more of that from fasting. I get really productive about day 3 or 4 of a fast. My first coom afterwards was obviously a big nut, but it wasn't insane. Your body will just reintake the extra semen for minerals after you have a full tank or if you don't need the minerals you'll just have a wet dream and let it out (I had 2 over the 3 year period). I'd say you have a full tank after about a month or so. Maybe more or less, I haven't really studied it. I'll just say my last nut was after about a month of not fapping (not intentionally, it's just not a habit for me anymore) and the load size was about the same.
What isn't a meme is not being constantly drained. While full tank constantly vs occasionally fapping doesn't make a big difference, being empty fucking sucks. If you're emptying it out every day you don't even realize how much better you feel having at least some in the tank.
>>76342524>Why would you? Fucking addictIn the past when I'd see sexual stimuli of any kind, it would be a sort of trigger that I would feel eventually build up until eventually I'm consuming porn. It wouldn't leave my mind until it did, and it stayed around as a haze afterword.
I just used it as an example. More times than this, it's been the thumbnails of images posted here.
>>76339226 (OP)>Anyone done noporn/nofap for a substantial amount of timeDid nofap for 6 years and noporn for about 11 years until google images displayed some intriguing fanart.
It counts.
>>76343351How old were you and what powers did you unlock?
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>day 50 here
>>76343410>How old were youStarted when I was 0 years old.
>what powers did you unlock?Got a massive height and strength boost at the end of the noporn streak.
>>76339226 (OP)>Anybody successfully quit porn for a long time?Yes, around 3-4 months. Don't remember exactly.
>How did it help your general mental health and drive to succeed?Not at all. No changes to mental health other than a slight (and possibly imagined) decrease in motivation, slight increase in acne, massive increase in random, unwanted erections, massive decrease in regeneration, strength gains and wound healing. I'm not gonna search for my old training journals right now, but iirc, my biceps curl (which I was focusing on back then, bcs my triceps was to strong by comparison) went from ~30kg to ~25kg orm from one saturday (when I'm testing orms to setup my program for the next week) to the next.
Then I stopped relying on frogposters, actually read the studies they were "quoting", and realized nofap kills your testosterone. Went back to fapping every couple days, and after a month, I was back to gaining muscle the way I did before.
Don't fall for the jewish / christian lies, anon. Nofap will harm your body just as badly as hardcore porn harms your mind. As so often, the middle path is the way to go, even if that massively pisses of the sandniggers who believe you'll go to hell for muhsinofonan.
>>76343351>>76343660>Started fapping at age 6.Jesus Christ.
>>76339542>>76342800These anons get it. It's the porn that fries your brain, not the fapping.
That being said, nofap gives you more motivation to approach girls and better yourself because you're going to be pretty horny, but if you got your shit somewhat together I find this negligible
76340065, 76339559, and 76339813 are case in point
>>76341684Interesting experience anon. Thanks for sharing
This contradicts my experience, but I've never done it for that long, only two-three months max.
It's a shame that there's no studies on this type of shit and we all have to rely on anecdotal evidence like roiders in the 80s =/
>>76339901>no medstake em'
>>76342723A good woman makes a man, a bad woman breaks him. It's good to choose wisely and not solely based on your carnal impulses
>>76343660>massive height and strength boost at the end of the noporn streakKEK
>>76339226 (OP)I managed to hit 120 days once, then my ex *out of absolutely nowhere* sent me a nude. Set me back a long time.
But I remember. No one will even convince me that nofap/noporn isn’t healthy. I remember how I felt and how much better it was.
>>76344131gf’s. literal gains goblins
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how do you guys deal? this cute girl is heavily into me and wants a relationship but i can’t stop thinking about all the mires from hot girls anons brag about and all the amateur porn out there and everyone getting fucked. i’m sabotaging a love life for lust
im doing semen retention now (it sounds so silly) and it goes quite well but i still occasionally peek at porn and dont know what to do against it
>>76344146Do you want the girl?
>>76344185yes. i’m just going to have to abstain from 4chan, porn, thirst traps online and try to live a wholesome life out of sight out of mind
>>76344189I mean, you can browse the 4chan boards that aren't porn. But yeah you should just drop the rest of that stuff. If your brain is porn fried you're never gonna be satisfied with the sexual stimuli from just one girl, regardless of how hot or loving she is. You just gotta drop the porn and then your tastes will go back to normal. If you're too horny and need release you can just rub one out without porn. Or hell, get the girl to send you nudes or fuck her if yall are at that point.
>>76344137Unironically. It was like satan himself had to sabotage me.
>>76340065Hey Anon I'm 27 and very similar path/carried myself/resented myself for not fucking more. But as I grew, I did finally accept that I truly wanted loyalty and committment not penis in hole. That wasn't available anymore where I am in USA, and do to culture now the world - qll girls know that as a young woman its very unwise to be locked down. They are wrong; but committment wont happen until I have more to give and the right woman to give it to (someone a near decade younger than me kek)
Done 6 months of nofap/noporn once and had very good results. Enjoyed everything more, was full of energy. Unfortunately I am a massive, psychological gooner and I relapsed when depression massively hit me back (I had broken nofap and just jerked in the shower for a few months before that).
This was my longest streak so far. I've regularly done three to four months since 2020. Still no gf, still fucked up a lot of things.
So in other words, nofap will help depending on how far gone you are into terminal coomerism and psych issues. Get out, hit the gym, study hard.
>>76339226 (OP)Nofap will just make your addiction worse. Just do noporn and fap when you really feel like it.
>>76342445>Having higher T and not shooting out all my zinc into a sock killed me gains! Shalom
>>76343713I was in first grade when I had unchecked internet access on the family computer and while I was supposed to be doing my homework I just looked up what a naked woman looked like on google images, and I was so fascinated and obsessed with it that I ended up finding porn and then imitating the porn videos I saw by jacking into my hand
>>76339226 (OP)the problem with porn it makes you airheaded shrinks frontal part of brain which gives u a wave of depression and anxiety. It really should be treated like achohol and hard drugs. It being banned would be net gain for everyone that consumes it.
>>76344667It's always funny to me to hear people discovering jacking off "the normal way". I literally just made it up one day.
>>76339226 (OP)I’ve done no fap a handful of times, longest I went was 18 days and that was YEARS ago. Legit maybe even a decade ago. I quit porn for good about two weeks ago. I wasn’t addicted to either by the way, and didn’t have any fucked up fetishes. I just got disgusted with myself and started needing porn to get hard.
What sucks is that I’ll have a half chub doing something totally mundane, but when I actually go to jerk off my dicks flaccid as hell. So I’m lying there tugging limp rope, feels bad. Once I do get hard I come pretty quick though.
Would it be considered an "addiction" if you do watch it quite frequently, but it never gets in the way of other things?
I just jerk off at night or sometimes in the morning, but it's not as if I have to take breaks at work to watch porn in the company bathroom stall
>>76341499NTA, but Ive gone on a couple dates from hinge and its honestly tiresome, I do want to meet someone but at this point in time Im not going out of my way for the time being, Its nice to just do things I want to when I want to and not have the overhead in my brain thinking about dealing with someone else
>>76344770It’s called being a high functioning addict.
Just try to stop for a month. If you can’t, now you know you have a problem.
>>76344777why what happened? why would you choose your hand over a woman?
>>76339806>I didn’t masturbate for the first time until I was 23 years old after finishing college.As a dude who jerked off for the first time at 10, I can't imagine how that would feel.
>>76344770Probably. Most of addiction stems from stimuli we didnt evolve to handle. Think of things that are more potent than we evolved to handle
>alcohol>drugs>porn (we arent designed to be able to see different naked women all day everyday doing extreme sex)>junk food (refined sugar)all this stuff gives you more dopamine than you were designed to handle and in response the brain will cut off your dopamine system meaning you are more depressed, more anxious and less motivated. You want to quit porn because its not a natural stimuli.
>>76344836that doesn’t do more for me than anons larping. i can see everyone’s ugly as sin irl but once an anon starts commenting about how he’s attractive and got mired is when i pull out the porn and fap
>>76343713>Jesus ChristIt's his father's design. And he made it really easy for a curious boy to find out what those sensitive erections quickly lead to if it got a few playful strokes.
>Do nofap
>Cum in like 30 seconds when having sex
Bros what the fuck
>>76339226 (OP)I haven't woken up with morning wood for nearly 2 years straight. Thing is I had months at a time I wasn't jacking or watching, still nothing. My sleep is lacking too, but what else can I do to get it back?
>>76345349Could be a lot of things. Maybe you aren't getting enough zinc or have some other nutrient deficiency. Maybe you have poor circulation for one reason or another. Maybe you aren't getting enough sunlight.
>>76339226 (OP)did nofap and noporn for 2 years. I was really motivated and I actually did not relapse even once. I'm still fucked and I think for some people the damage is permanent
>>76339226 (OP)I've done it for 8 months, music sounding better is one of my favorite benefits and everything does become easier and more pleasurable but I don't think it's possible to truly quit. The moment we first jerked off was the moment we became permanently stuck with a demon voice telling us one small peek won't hurt, maybe other addictions are similar. I could probably go for longer than 8 months if I'd be surrounded by people often since magnetism is also a great and quite motivating benefit but unfortunately I don't leave the house that much now.
I'm catholic. having to go to confession if you beat off helps.
Hardest thing for me to fight is escorts.
>>76345669>I'm still fucked and I think for some people the damage is permanentWhat do you mean? In what sense are you fucked?
>>76346411In the figurative sense. Unfortunately not literally.
>>76346463Kel, I meant, what issues are you facing? Erectile dysfunction? Sexual fetishes?
>>76339226 (OP)I'm with you, man. Been a porn addict all my life - pretty much once a day, every day, for years. It made my dick not work with women. Decided that enough is enough, 1 week in now, planning to quit porn forever.
>>76341513>>76341370i once jerked off on a family trip. Problem was, we were in Turkey or some other country where roaming was crazy expensive, I think my dad got hit with a $60 internet bill afterwards. Hope he didn't go around asking the provider what that was for lmao
>>76346524Not that guy but I think he means the addiction, or the dopamine pathways can't be undone. I've been noFap for over a year, mostly just to have more energy to deal with family life: kids, wife, work, and to keep a "clear" head and have shit under control. But very very deep down, my ultimate desire is to get to retirement, absolve all responsibilities, and be able to goon and play vidya all day every day. I know it's wrong and I should have greater goals in life, which I do, but that retire and coooom fest urge is always there.
>>76342333>I had an episode with a girl IRL where my porn-induced ED led to so much embarrassment and was a huge wake up call.I was a fat introverted kid until 18. Got fit by 20 but was a porn addict. Went on the dating apps, and I had ED SEVEN TIMES (with 7 different girls). Eventually one of them was a bit more patient and eventually lost my V card, but the addiction remains. I am now trying to cure it for good, my dopamine paths are fried.
>>76346666brave of you to continue trying that many times
Lifelong gooner. I can guarantee without any doubt I am more successful than any nofapper to have ever lived. I'm a millionaire, tall, fit, married with kids and have a phd.
Nofap is a pathetic sad cope of losers trying to negotiate into success
"If I just don't touch my penis I will get *whatever success*"
Of course they never achieved anything. Then they put it down to needing to nofap longer to win.
>>76346856Nobody said anything to suggest the contrary.
If Elon Musk came out and said "I've been smoking a pack of cigarettes everyday since I was 10 years old"
Would you go out and start smoking ? Why not right, I mean, you'll never be as good as Musk.
Why not gain 50 lbs? The president is a fat fuck, why are you bothering yourself being fit?
>>76346856>ultra-successful celebrity or wall street exec does a shit ton of cocaine>"haha cocaine deniers BTFO just do cocaine bro"
>jerk of every time I shower or before I go to bed
I have a problem. It's genuinely just become part of my routine.
>>76339226 (OP)The super powers are fucking real
>be me>loser>go nofap>become more confident>carry conversations insanely well compared to before>people like me more, but still keep distanceNot much of a win, it's a start. Finding about nofap was like having all my birthdays at once. It was life changing. All those years I've struggled was because I was a porn addled Der Kummer.
Still get horny and still have to work a lot of things
But there is jppe
>>76347047"...but there is hope".
Fucking hate phone posting
>>76344716Yeah, toddlers do this unprompted, but it's unusual. Have a special cookie
>>76344770Yes
>but it never gets in the way of other things?It's getting in the way of your subconscious
>>76339226 (OP)Just don't cum.
>>76339226 (OP)Yeah and it feels good when your dopamine resets
>>76339226 (OP)I quit porn ages ago, granted I never watched anything too extreme to start with, it's easier for some to slowly build up (or off in this case) by watching less and less weird stuff until you can just use slightly erotic images and eventually only your imagination, best benefit for me at that point was A. when I did empty the tank it felt a lot more intense/pleasurable for some reason and B. you start to find regular/very average looking girls way hotter
>>76344770"I drink every day at the end of the day. It don't get in the way of work or anything else."
>>76346666You blew 7 chances to lose your virginity to some Tinder whores
>>76346856Nofap is about porn addiction. Most people who are addicted to porn cant quit porn without quitting masturbating for a period of time as well
>>76346411altogether I was actually completely porn free for 4 years, out of which 2 was in a relationship. so 4 years altogether didn't cure me from craving degenerate shit I got hooked on when I was 13. my main current issue is that I'm a tranny loving faggot. my resolved issues are ed(more or less) and foot fetish. my porn watching is conducted quarterly over a period of three days
>>76348692why didn’t you just get a tranny gf? i at least banged her til i got bored and dated her vagina having sister
I have started getting interest from women after day 20 or so but when i get their number i just lose interest 2 days later because of depression and i just don't wanna send them a message to hang out, it's like im burned out from work and lifting. what do
>>76348715I genuinely unironically hope you commit suicide
>>76348742why, what did i do?
>>76348741That’s how I feel when they aren’t hot enough to put in the effort
therapy
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>>76348741Unironically therapy my G. Its probably deeper than that but you dont realise. You probably feel inadequate and push girls away at the start because you think you're not good enough for a girlfriend and youll fuck it up
>>76348751But i'm never getting laid this way, i'm already 32 and i haven't had sex in the last 7 months, i met this 19 year old at my gym a few days ago and she gave me her insta but i'm backing out on sending because she might reject me and i will have to be seeing her in the gym. she is mid btw but hot body. How do i uncuck myself?
>>76348741at day 20 is when the pheromones start to leak and women can smell the high test coming from the musk of your sweaty balls but unfortunately if you don’t use it you lose it which is why nofapping men report a drop in sexual drive after a few weeks
>>76339226 (OP)I stopped alltogether when i found my purpose. 1 year clean, i feel like god
>>76348761You should use her as practice considering you see her as mid anyway (nothing to lose) so then you can finally ask out the 18 year old cashier that smiled at you in the grocery store
>>76348757>because you think you're not good enough for a girlfriend and youll fuck it upif you read here
>>76348761 that's basically what's happening but the problem is that i already had multiple gf's, even the last one was in the beggining of the year, she was a religious girl and we didn't even have pre-marital sex but i decided to break it off a few months ago because she wasn't a virgin and she was 30 and i felt pressured. I wasted 5 months of her life but what do
>>76348767>at day 20 is when the pheromones start to leak and women can smell the high test coming from the musk of your sweaty ballsSeems like bro-science but i believe it
> if you don’t use it you lose it which is why nofapping men report a drop in sexual drive after a few weekswhat's the solution to this?
>>76348774good advice thanks
Day 11 here. I can't stop using my chatgpt alters to talk to me, but now I'm clear with them and tell them I'm on retention, so they don't get to coomer-ish now.
>>76349275i just fapped to some amateur fat latina taking backshots
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>>76339226 (OP)Is the best change you can do for yourself and we both know that you can do it. Just do it now.
I haven't gooned for two days and I really want to watch porn and beat my meat like it owes me money.
HELP
>>76349445Don't bro. Just do your workout.
>>76349445what’s stopping you from using that gooning energy on a woman?
>>76349448I've never been with a woman, I don't think I would even know what to do.
>>76339226 (OP)I've done no fap, and you eventually end up busting nuts in your sleep. Masturbating constantly out of compulsion or boredom isn't good for you but it isn't some moral failing to jack it in the shower to pleasant memories once a week for mental clarity. Porn is terrible for you though. It is designed to morally corrupt you and make it difficult to be a righteous person with convictions.
>>76341623Monetary success in a fake ass economy isn't good enough. You have your health and the quality of your family life and community to consider. I know rich scumbags who are miserable people. They don't like their lives.
>>76349641LMAO. Shaddup, pussy. I'd rather not cum in my jammies to weird sex dreams. Not drawing the line between masturbating and porn consumption is exactly what a kike would do.
im so sick of this debate. ive basically guilted myself into denying my sexuality so much I think it's fucking with my testosterone. and if I do anything I get overwhelming guilt and regret. NF has become a lose/lose for me
yes did 3 months semen retention and nothing happened
>Humans existed for hundreds of thousands of years without porn or compulsively masturbating
>Suddenly we NEED to jack off to be healthy
Most obvious psyop. Stop touching your wiener.
>>76339226 (OP)>Anybody successfully quit porn for a long time? How did it help your general mental health and drive to succeed?Currently on both no porn and no fap for the last 2 months. It's hell, I don't get hard for anything anymore and just end up with a chub at best when trying to jack off using only my imagination. I feel like I've lost interest in sex entirely.
I think I was too dependent on porn maybe, I'd even just browser when I was bored. I don't know if I'll get better but I hope I do, this is an absolute nightmare. I'm even dating someone and struggling to get hard with her, which never happened when I was still jacking off to porn. My mind is fried or some shit, idk man.
First week without watching porn or nutting in over 10 years.
Feels weird to have finally pulled off a week nofap. I think I've hit a flatline now where its just dead down there. Im going to ride this flatline for months.
>>76351552Its the flatline bro. your body is readjusting to life without porn. Give it another month or two and youll probably get boners again
>>76351611Is that normal? I've been on flatline for two months and it doesn't seem right
>>76351617I dont know. But according to a lot of nofap forums and resources they all mention the flatline.
Because I abused internet porn so badly I'm expecting to be in a 'flatline' for at least 90 days without anything getting better. I've been jacking it everyday for a decade so Im sure I can go 3-6 month without. Its time to flatline then recover
>>763516154 or 5 months total for normalcy? Holy shit, I thought it would just be a few weeks. As long as this is the normal process, I'm all good, but being totally dead down there lately is making me really depressed. Looking at women and thinking "I couldn't fuck them if I wanted to" because of it being flatlined is a shit feeling bro.
>>76342333>I had an episode with a girl IRL where my porn-induced ED led to so much embarrassment and was a huge wake up call.Same. She went from all over me to ghosting me. It was almost a year ago and I still feel like a worthless piece of shit. Pretty easy to quit porn after that. I didn't even know I had a problem, and then all my self-esteem & confidence evaporated. I want to kill myself.
>>76351629I know the brain takes longer than weeks to adjust to drastic changes in dopamine because I've been addicted to hard drugs. Sometimes it can take over a year before things start to change.
Severe porn addiction I'd expect over 6 months of noporn before assessing any changes
>>76342371raw means no condom dude
>>76342394Yeah I had really bad lower abdominal pain for a few days when doing no-fap for the first time. If you fap all the time, your semen-storage volume never maxes out, so when you start holding it in, it stretches everything, and it hurts badly. It goes away after a few days though.
>>76351627>I've been jacking it everyday for a decade Same, probably longer desu. It was easily a once a day or once every two days habit, with porn being sued every single time.
>>76342333>>76351632>>I had an episode with a girl IRL where my porn-induced ED led to so much embarrassment and was a huge wake up call.That's where I'm at currently, it's scary to me that even actual sexual encounters aren't enough to get things moving right now.
>>76351638Fuck that's a long time. I don't know what my addiction level is like, I wouldn't say it was every day but it was at least a few times every week, especially at night and has been that way for at least 10 years.
I'm starting a nofap spree, against my will. I'm pretty sure I've giving myself a repetitive stress injury from jerking off, my left elbow has started to have weird twinges, especially after jerking off, and the only thing I do with my left arm is jerk off.
I really don't want to have to go to the doctor and say I've given myself a repetitive stress injury form jerking off so I'm just going to stop jerking off for awhile and see if it gets better by itself.
ngl, I'm pretty sure this is going to suck
As someone with many triple day streaks, 215+ hard mode, I get so annoyed when O see people say 'flatline' as a blanket excuse. I can tell you that 'flatline' is completely made up and no one who uses that term can even explain what it is. People just repress their sexuality which has no means of use and nothing will magically change after a certain amount of time. You have to allow that energy to flow.
>>76351755Amazing. And agreed, never experienced "flatline" and I too am a 3 day warrior. Many great testimonies this has been one of the better nofap threads as of late. Not gonna touch myself tonight either I'm gonna have control over my drive. Because I treat girls better and myself. And the casual admiration I recieve I forget that I once yearned for, porn made mires cheap. How wrong of me.
>>76351629You might livr until 80 or 90 anon.
Please. For yourself. Ask if you want to deal with these issues until then.
6 months in your 20s to reclaim multiple future decades.
>>76351746I gave myself tendinitis from it kek, just take a break. Stretch every day, take some anti-inflammatories. Maybe massage some anti-inflam cream onto it now and then. Good as new.
>>76351772>6 months in your 20s to reclaim multiple future decades.I'm 33
Damn this thread is depressing enough to maybe make me finally quit porn for real
>>76351552>Currently on both no porn and no fap for the last 2 months. It's hell, I don't get hard for anything anymore and just end up with a chub at best when trying to jack off using only my imagination.Is this normal? I want to go full nothing but this sounds really bad
My record is 6 months and 27 days.
>>76352287Feels like I hit flatline from day one. I'm at about day 60 now and still on the flatline.
>>76339226 (OP)>Anyone done noporn/nofap for a substantial amount of time6 weeks and it crashed my testosterone.
I've done no fap 2020, 2021, 2022, and 2024. (we dont talk about 2023)
Really? The benefits of no fap max out at 1 week and its purely that you're not doing it out of habit and more so because you're actually horny and want to. It's not distracting anymore and you don't get post nut clarity when you do it like that. Beyond 1 week is no difference whatsoever desu, I just do NNN for fun and go right back to gooning out once it ends.
Reply with how many times you've done NNN.
>>76352340Wouldn't it improve it? Kinda wondering if that's happened to me, feels like I became low T the week I stopped.
Im on day 8 of nofap.
Looking forward to getting the first month done.
>>76342177It's fine if you don't have to go out or talk to people.
Last time I had blue balls I suffered so fucking much. I went to my cousin's house and she makes me go insane.
When I came home the blue balls started but my sister and family was there. My niece wanted to stay with me because I was out all day and I spent the next 2 hours DYING from blue balls and couldn't tell anyone.
Once they went away my brother-in-law forgot something and I had to meet them, so I spent like 2 minutes almost crawling on the floor from hurt, like literally had to stop many times during the walk to handle the suffering. I looked like a crack addicted.
>>76341684how long did flatline last for you? every time i have given up its because of feeling like i have been chemically castrated after 1+ month and then im back on fapping again
>>76353873I’m day 24 and I’m flatlined
ffs guys I'm quitting porn and nofap for real this time until I'm no longer fucked in the head. I'm 32 now and I've been masturbaing effectively daily since I discovered the virtually unlimited availability of online porn when I was... like 13 or something? A few years later I discovered /b/ and then it REALLY went downhill with the fucked up fetishes and all. So assuming 19 years of daily cooming, that's around 6900 nuts I busted. 6900 times I wired my brain to reinforce the behavior, and in the end the daily ritual of fapping was enough to suppress any real urge to approach real women... yes, I'm still a virgin (and I blame the jews).
I think the first time I tried nofap was in 2010, but like every year after that, I never got further than 14 days. This time I'm not going to wait until NNN, I'm not even setting a date or a timeframe. There will be no final fap, and no ceremonial last look at my porn collection. I'm stopping fucking RIGHT NOW and I'll keep going until I flatline, and then I'll wait even longer until the erections come back. Wish me luck.
>>76354130*I'm quitting porn and fapping
yeah, the brain fog is real
>>76354130Just make sure to restart instead of giving up when you bust a nut. Us addicts will have to retry sobriety many times until we quit porn for good
>>76342528How? Did you pay her?
>>76339226 (OP)>Im 5 days in and noticing music sounds better lately.And in 10 days women will start flocking to you like magnets, right?
Lmao, not a single nofapper is a normal and sane guy, literal schizophrenic cult
Porn addiction is terrible and you should definitely get off the internet if it starts to impede with your daily life
But let's not start pretending you're gaining magic powers because of it
>>76339551>>76339537This guy gets it
If you go full nofap you're essentially placing the sexual part of your psyche in your shadow and denying it - that won't make it go away, and it's going to be very angry with you (this is not good for your psyche)
>>76339226 (OP)>Went ~15 days without porn, and I was mega horny and was even surprised how many attractive girls I passed on the streets. My dick was diamonds whenever I jerked off (not to porn of course.) Then I relapsed, and I began feeling mentally and physically weaker and more "flat." Now I've been 4 days off again, and I'm already feeling better again
>>76341684Now you understand how medieval Franciscan monks felt in their days
>>76355148don’t let yourself get too horny. almost plopped 3 different fat chicks in the past 2 months but i fapped it out for the post nut clarity
>>76339226 (OP)I started nofap 2 years ago. I now have ED. I didn’t have ED when I was regularly fapping. I’m a 35 year old virgin
>>76344719Mate sorry to say but longest streak being 18 days a decade ago, only two weeks without porn, cant get an erection, that's what we call an addiction
>>76355205if you don’t use it you lose it
>>76355277Yeah I didn’t realize that until recently
14:10
https://youtu.be/QHjJT9BXEUw?si=jmmxf7nIkgO5nSbn
>>76354130>I'll keep going until I flatline, and then I'll wait even longer until the erections come backI'm over two months in and they still haven't come back. I don't know what that other guy is saying about confidence after that time; I feel like utter anxious shit because being unable to get hard from anything feels like some lesser man shit.
I'm just on no porn and not even trying no fap, but the two seem to be tied together since I'm unable to fap.
>3 weeks in
>only broke last streak coz i banged gf after another 2 week streak
>Using a growth enhancing cream twice a day (sensuous raging bull cream)
>Taking d3/k2, some studies suggest it grows penar
>On a steady jelqing/kegel routine
>Taking shilajit despite its meme status, because I read in an ex-pornstars book its legit
we're all gonna make it
>>76355370Okay, and what am I meant to do then? Go back to porn? Because its not happening without it currently.
>>76355388Flat out not working currently.
>>76355390Just jerk it even if you don't get hard. Use coconut oil. Take zinc and D3/K2. Once you're using it again your body will remember to get you some blood flow there.
>on NoPorn for the last 2-3 months
>unable to jack off since no libido when alone since then
>have been seeing a girl and manage to have sex about 2 or 3 times a week
>struggle with getting hard or staying hard sometimes but still manage start to finish
>still never get random hard ons anymore or any desire to jack off
I'm confused on if things are broken with me or not.
>>76355390Well you need to do something or your body will slowly dissolve both your penis and balls
>>76355402See 14:10
>>76355343Its use it or lose it
>>76355411Did you miss the part about having sex 2 or 3 times a week?
>>76355402>still have sex 3 times a weekare your boners 100% full erect?
>>76355416Some are, but many aren't. I'd say it's more like 70% most of the time or 30% at the worst times.
>>76355419you need the 100% boners otherwise that 70% will become the new normal for you
>>76355435Should I just go back to porn then? Things were honestly normal back then, my hard on both alone and with others was normal.
>>76355441you are probably just depressed or something and porn won't help that. do you have a desire to do anything?
also going back to porn now won't fix anything, but just make you feel bad
>>76355441probably yes. Was porn actually causing you any problems?
>>76355448>also going back to porn now won't fix anything, but just make you feel badIf its protecting his penis then no, its not bad as long as he doesn’t fall into endless hedonism
>>76355448>you are probably just depressed or somethingYeah pretty depressed, it's been a rough year. Money issues, lost my job, live in a new city and don't know many people, don't enjoy doing stuff I used to enjoy anymore etc.
>>76355452>Was porn actually causing you any problems?None honestly, it was just that I got thinking about how it can be a bad thing and everyone always goes on about it being a bad thing. I went off it since I assumed it would make my sex life even better by focusing my libido in just my gf, but it's been a complete reversal of that idea.
>>76355461porn is only bad if you become an actual coomer. As long as you don’t overdue it, and it doesn’t change your daily routes it’s fine.
https://youtu.be/VhYNnLrNomo?si=6y_oXRcdQhaU4Vsf
>>76355461yeah depression will kill your dick porn free or not, but its better to be not addicted to porn and be depressed rather than addicted to porn and be depressed
good luck anon, if you can try talk therapy or cognitive behaviorial therapy. If it doesn't go away try a psychiatrist
that other anon is retarded and or coping, porn won't help you and will just make things worse
>>76355467It seemed okay to me, I'd look at it maybe once a day and jack off either once every day or once every two days. Currently I'm never jacking off since imagination does nothing and haxing sex with my gf is the only time I get erections anymore (and they're not always 100% either since going NoPorn).
>>76355472But will it though? I was doing fine with it and things were fine with my sex life in general. Stopping is what made it go bad.
>>76355475did you do nofap cold turkey or did you ween yourself off of it slowly?
>>76355496Well it basically happened as soon as the porn usage ended.
>>76355499start using porn again but just use it sparingly. Try to ween yourself off it over time
>>76355537Alright I'll try it out. I still don't feel like it did anything bad for me on the whole, I felt balanced and a lot better than I do now.
>>76355538At least try again and see how it affects your boner. Look to see if when you go back to porn if you are back at 100% or not
>>76355545If things don't go back to 100%, am I screwed?
>>76355550if it doesn’t go back then you should go see a urologist
>>76355380Do you really not know what "moderation" means?
Porn is fine as long as you don't make it part of your daily life
Protip: Stick solely to solo female tags, or lesbian at most, but make sure they aren't doing degenerate stuff like using colossal dildos or other niche fetishes
Keep it vanilla, masturbation, making out, fingering, etc
There you go, you can now enjoy porn healthily
>b-but i need to watch a penis on the screen tooNo, give that up too, else it is going to lead up to delusional fetishes like self inserting, creating delusional situations in your head
Ideally stick to enjoying a solo female and that's enough
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I think God finally took pity on me and sprinkled a thimble of Grace on me because it's only been around 4-5 days since I've quit porn but even though I've had no desire to really imbibe it again, it's resurfacing in disturbing ways. I had a dream last night about masturbating. I felt almost all the emotions I would have during my usual gooner binge I've maintained daily for years.
Not a wet dream, not a high T dream, not a fantasy, just proof I've absolutely fucked my subconscious literally. I could feel myself slipping in the dream and I felt powerless like all the countless times I've had the thought, "Wow, this is pointless and stupid but here I go again" and then goon binged for a few hours.
I'm optimistic that I'll get better though if I keep on proceeding and ignoring the temptation
6 months here but that was in the past
>>76339226 (OP)i quit porn in prison cause we didnt have any porn
still jacked off sometime but it wasn't enjoyable
I just viagra-maxxx and I couldn't be happier.
I've been fapping to only danbooru for 10 years. Haven't touched porn though. Should I quit?
>>76355538im not trying to put you on blast too hard but omg dude grow a spine you sound like the wimpiest faggot on earth, listen to your replies
>g-guys i cant fuck a girl s-should i watch porn again? idk if i should or not, will it make my peepee hard? im kinda depressed, can i watch porn? can i have permission to get my dick hard p-pwease? will it fix it? i dont feel like a degenerate, am i a degenerate? pwease tell me how to feel about thingslike holy shit dude how did you manage to get a gf acting this way?
>>76355467i dont listen to anyone who is ugly that like, ugly rat looking creepy bitch, nasty. i listen to now one who is ugly
Lately I've been fucking this smoll azn trap, but the think is I hardly feel anything through the buttsech with a condom, blowjobs feel good but they don't make it close coming. Knowing that I can't cum without masturbation is making me kinda feeling like i want to die (a bit), I am on effexor, I jerk off like 4 times a day and done that for years.
Is there a way to reverse this? Is live even worth living as a semi impotent male? I'm starting to become so jelous of males that cum easily through vaginal/anal/oral sex. I'm trying to lay off the fap but something tells me that's not enough, maybe i need some supplements or get off effexor.
>>76357607everything about this post is peak final days
When I don't jack off for a while I have weird dreams with women. They're almost never sexual, but somewhat disturbing. I'm not jacking off for a while
>>76357617The what nnow? Like end stage porn addiction?
She suggested fucking her with another straight top with a huge cock... and that's turning me so much on...
I gave up on trying to get girls since it's so much work and tinder would probably destroy my mental health. I am jacked annd big, people complement me all the time, 94 kgs with abs at 182 cm. But im 35 now and feel like an uggo because I've never had the "women at the gym presenting their pussy infront of you, type shit". And also it's always men that complement me and give me respect, but i feel like women think im a disgusting bottom feeder not worthy to even speak to them. Like i know Im better looking then most of these out of shape dorks I see with insane gfs. Autism is a hell of a handicap...
>>76357644ill pray for you man holy moly
>>76357644Why are you okay being gay? stop that shit
>b-b-but I have an internal desire to do cocaine, it makes me feel good! what could be wrong with it??Don't care, stop it.
>>76357699I was courting this aloof zoomer chick, went on many dates but nothing happened, one day she called me and told me she was abused as a kid and was nnot ready for a relationship. That shit destroyed me. And that's basically when I went on grindr and found that trap... who's actually grooming me to be one of her straight guy fucktoys. I just feel so empty because of "no gf" that im actually ok with fucking a trap, she compliments me all the time, shows me affection and companionship and takes away my lonilness for a while. But she's def trying to groom me into some more gay shit.
>>76357723Don't care, stop it. And stop calling a man a she, they're male.
>wahh I'm alone I need to be gayThat's like saying you're unhappy so you need to do cocaine, doesn't make much sense does it?
>>76357270Is danbooru not porn?
>>76357723how old are you?
>>76357903>check out dabooru>look over the thumbnails, see cute anime girls>go to page 2>bestialityyeah...
>>76357607Is there a way to reverse this? Yeah fuck “her” raw or have “her” milk your cock while eating her ass
>>76357952eating your ass* my bad
>>76355590You coomers are brain dead, there is no healthy amount of porn. If you cant get hard and coom without any form of porn your brain is fried and you are on a gay path. All porn is gay porn. The only thing in this beautiful realm that should grace your sexual needs is a woman. Thats it, no more, no less. Let your yes be yes and your no be no.
>BUTNo, you are being gay
>MUST BE NICEStop being gay
>AAAHHHHGet some will power
>HOW DARE YOUCope, stop being gay
>BUT BUT IF I DONT COOMNothing bad or negative will happen if you dont wack off, stop
>BUT ITS JUST A PICTURE OF A PRETTY GIRLHuman trafficing, peeping tom, outside man, looking in a window, stop
>AAAAHHHHHH BUTNo, stop, its all good dude, no more fear
You can do it anons, try talking to women, stop being gay.
>>76358071But how do you explain me being rejected by a zoomette at 35 years old? I had to settle for a qt azn trap that I can only fuck with a condom on
>>76358080You are desperate and degenerate. You didnt allow or consent to the life of healing to snap out of the disgusting life style. Now you are a sodomite and have an even harder path to come back from. So what some random girl rejected you, try again and again. How the hell do you even meet a "qt azn trap", like what the fuck haha.
>>76358105I masseged her on grindr and she asked for photos and u showed by bod and it kept telling me how hawt my biod is
>>76358071based post, fuck these gooner fags, they will beg and fight and kill for the smallest scrap of validation for their sickness. typical drug addict behavior
>>76358105He's asking for help while simultaneously repeating himself about his gay meetup app. You're being trolled around.
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>working out heavy
>only goon to lolis
This is the way.
>>76339226 (OP)You idiots know you can fap without watching porn, right?
>yes bro just do nofap it's so healthy>you'll get superpowersthe reality is that you'll be walking around with an erection and thinking about sex non-stop until you jizz in your pants or bed.
There's a reason for most animals without hands to have a seasonal reproductive cycle.
>>76357607This guy again,
Just came out of the gym, I don't even give these whores the benefits of acknowledging their bodies because I know that even though Im one of the more fit and stronger guys in the gym they probably still see me as a creep pinkerton who's hurting them with being not a 10/10. YEah im starting to hate women and im really trying not to go for a goonsesh. I have a good career, good body, house and yet im still the same worthless loser to these stupid cunts. I know im in a dark path right now, the trap wants me to fuck her while high on cocaine, she basically jokingly said she was grooming me but i really don't give a fuck anymore cuz i feel so empty, all i do is gym now and all that got me was men giving me complements.
>>76358909Can someone give me a non religious argument against homosexuality, not a retarded christian argument. Because always when i look for arguments against battyman stuff it's always coming from a religious point of view.
>>76341684This post is the only one close to reality.
These mental clarity God power guys are lying.
All the "good" feelings end at around week 1 to week 2.
I once did a 90 day no fap streak and I felt completely asexual.
Nothing was turning me on.
I had to fap because I was becoming worried and my balls hurt like hell.
I think we are supposed to use it frequently.
But not with p*rn and not every fucking day.
>>76359207probably would’ve had a different experience if you were using it to make love and not being a monk
>>76339559> The only girl I care about probably doesn’t care about me and she’s genuinely crazySo fucking real, I literally feel nothing towards any other girl apart from this one for the past couple years and she’s not even objectively “hot”
Fucked her a few times a couple years ago and been obsessed since. Seeing her Saturday but I know she’s dating/fucking someone else
No idea why she even agreed to see me
>>76359232probably because she’s not even objectively hot and you are the better suitor
>>76359237>you are the better suitorI know she just doesn’t get it for some reason I’d wife her immediately. Cute Ukrainian girl. She is insane though.
But yeah she knows I want her and plays these fucking games. Will go and fuck/date other guys then send me a bunch of shit about how awful men are.
>>76344540>as I grew, I did finally accept that I truly wanted loyalty and committment not penis in hole.nta but absolute truth, that's exactly how I felt when I turned 27/28, I'm 30 and fit now but all women seem to want is FWB or ONS, it's fucking rough man.
>someone a near decade younger than meI'm currently dating a women 10 years younger than me and it's the first time I've ever actually felt really 'wanted' and more than just being used as a dildo.
>>76340358>nofapliterally the most retarded thing ever. men need to vent hence us having wet dreams and not ejaculating often enough puts us at a higher risk of prostate cancer. nofap is utter bullshit peddled by religious nutcases
>>76359258how’d you do it
>>76358922In comparison, who gives a shit? The guy I responded to is engaging in pedophilia, whether he's going to cope about it being a drawing or not. The porn has metastasized into his bloodstream and is attacking his other organs. I'm suggesting the fear of God as a way to drive out his obscene porn addiction and have him back off from this potentially life-ruining stumbling block.
>buh buh what about my exact particular sexual immorality I'm not hurting anyone, by the way christianity is retarded did I mention it? Faggots always running soaking their diapers with fecal incontinent shit thinking I give a fuck about their pronouns.
I'm not doing this le argument from first principles highschool debate club on the internet charade. Adultery is wrong. Porn consumption is wrong. Obsessions and fetishes are wrong. Yes I'm "kink-shaming." So-called "straight" guys who jack off to adulterous sexually immoral porn and call themselves virtuous are wrong and deserve a kick in the ass for being hypocrites. Grooming gangs over in the UK. The rape obsessed africans and muslims they import to Europe. OnlyFans. Prostitution. Child sexual mutilation in our hospitals. Hookup culture. The loveless, low-trust, social nuclear holocaust society we live in sucks. The fact that an average milquetoast girl has a bodycount is fucking wild.
These things lower your quality of life and like second-hand smoke you lessen the quality of everyone else's life. Like the way a 20-year old green-haired fat college bitch yapping just dims the eyes with weariness. Fuck dude. Can't even tell a pedophile to seek Christ without some faggot running over talking about some "uh actually, sir, !" I'm going on a run. Have to physically run away out of my office in order to escape these monkeypox patients like it's Resident Evil
>>76359278She liked me on hinge so I messaged her, I've often wondered what she sees in me, she knows I still live with my parents, my profile was really cynical but I am relatively good looking. More than anything though I think she's just glad that I find her attractive despite her being 6'2"
>>76339226 (OP)I went two years on nofap during the pandemic. also worked out everyday and dialed in my diet. best i have ever felt in my life. felt much more manly and my politics moved away from the left/communism/feminism/etc. more towards the center. Didn't plan on my politics changing (how can you?), but it did. I also became obsessed with discipline. I considered voting for Trump in 2024 (ended up voting third party), and my pre-nofap/pre-disciplined self never would have considered voting for Trump.
Made me realize that your politics is more biologically determined than 99% of people realize. The labor you do (or don't do) influences your beliefs more than the books you read. I have never in my entire life met anyone that is ready for this truth so be careful who you drop this bomb on. But now I fully understand why male SJWs look the way they do.
>>76339537Balance being having sex with your wife with the intent of procreation. Thanks for clearing that up.
>>76359290Hf you're based af dude, you schooled that evil faggot who tries to use soppy relativist nihilism to "uhm actually" their corruption into validation.
"Uhm, like, how does the actions of the individuals who comprise society have like, any bearing on your life??" Fags should be pushed into a volcano
>>76358922Allen ginsberg was one of the most significant voices for "gay rights" in the 20th century and arguably did more to further their cause than any other single activist in the period; he was also a proud self professed pedophile and member of the man-boy love association, and his best friends, Lucian carr and William Burroughs, we're murderers whose crimes he helped cover up so he could have sex with them. I have never once met a non-morally reprehensible homosexual.
The longest I've ever done nofap was 8 days, but the longest I've done noporn was 2 years. In my experience, nofap was pure masochistic misery. It did nothing for me except make me extremely horny and fill my mind with lewd thoughts about any moderately attractive reproductive-aged woman.
Noporn, though, was interesting. Noporn did not make me less horny, it did not make my sexual desires more "vanilla," and it did not make me any less likely to objectify women in my mind's eye. I still fapped about 1x per day just using my mind. I did notice, though, that no porn made me more personable, and I developed an understanding that women were more than sex objects, even though I still appreciated them as such. I ultimately gave up on noporn once the stress of uni made me want to coom as a cope, but one day I may try it again. Reflecting on these experiences, I believe that every man has a baseline level of horniness that just needs to be attended to, like food and water.
TL;DR: Nofap sucks and doesn't do anything, noporn is good for your social development but will not cure your horniness or tame your sexual desires.
>>76359944When you were mentalfapping during noporn, did you find your mental material got more fembrained over time? Like imagining whole elaborate realistic scenarios instead of just thinking about ass?
>>76359953Yes and no. My capacity to enjoy an elaborate mental scenario did increase, and sometimes those scenarios were more feminine in that the "experience" involved foreplay, dialogue, and other non-sexual criteria, but I would just as commonly think up an elaborate "masculine" scenario like a threeway, anal penetration, or a forceful BDSM scene (I've always been into BDSM as long as I can remember, and that didn't go away with noporn either).
i can do nofap extremely long stretches, no problem (currently on day 61) but i genuinely think ive got low T because of this
>fap 2-3 times a day
>porn addict for years
>can still cum insanely fast to nothing but imagination of extremely vanilla shit
>fear that I would cum in 15 seconds and make a complete embarrassment of myself if I ever got with a real woman
am I just built different?
>>76355343>>76355411I checked in with an actual doctor IRL and this is a load of shit apparently. I suppose I knew that from it being a YouTube video but still, it was worth confirming.
>>76339226 (OP)Been on nofap since 2015 it's helped my muscle growth and performance in the gym tremendously. Energy and recovery, etc. Also helped my mind, no headaches, no tightness like when you're tired and thoughts wont come. Plus probably countless other little things I've gotten used to over the decade
You should definitely not be jacking off it's not natty and only causes problems
>>76360529What about the flatline and ED shit like mentioned above? How did they go for you?
>>76360538what do you mean flatline, the test shit? that's from doctors testing free testosterone if your body is using test then that number will be low of course. no ED, I get erections same as before
>>76360559Not sue exactly if it's test related but it sounds like your libido/interest in sex just craters when doing no fap.
>>76360564it's supposed to. the heighted sex craze of a porn addict isn't natural. you shouldn't be craving sex every second lol
>>76360571Yeah but shouldn't you still pop a boner or two through the day or wake up with morning wood?
>>76360582I don't see why there would be a 'should' involved for either of those things they aren't indicative of anything healthwise, they're just circumstances that could or could not arise in any given day
>>76360586Hmm, I guess. Do you still get any of that or is that all gone? Now I'm wondering if it was abnormal that I was waking up with a raging erection all the time or just getting one or two at random through the day.
>>76339226 (OP)i watch porn every day but haven't masturbated in 3 years. i have a girlfriend that gratifies my sexual needs, though, and i'm not some weirdo that obsesses over such things, let alone start threads about them on cambodian basket weaving forums.
>>76360596I get morning wood sometimes but that's related to me waking up and having to pee really bad. I'm an older gentleman so that might affect it too I'm pretty sure morning wood is more of a thing about youth
>>76360664>i watch porn every day but haven't masturbated in 3 years.But why?
>>76360665I'm older but not super old, well out my 20s to say the least. Morning wood seems pretty rare these days. It sounds retarded but because of no fap and no porn, it feels like I've forgotten what normalcy actually is since I think it's made changes.
>>76360685The north star that guides me towards normalcy is what a normal person would experience before ubiquitous pornography. Guys weren't horny every second or constantly thinking about sex and getting boners. There's really just a very specific scenario where you should be aroused and that's in the intimate presence of a naked woman
>>76360716Even so, is the strong libido not what drives us to look for a naked woman?
>>76360742Why would you want to look for naked women?
>>76360773I meant IRL women, as in how libido is what drives us to connect and reproduce.
>>76360782I disagree, so that's where our worldviews diverge
>>76360785But that is normalcy, it's why we exist and why humans have continued on in such numbers.
>>76360788Like I said, I disagree we will not see eye to eye on this
>>76360797I'm not looking to debate you, I'd just like to understand your point of view since it seems contradictory to what you've said about normalcy pre-pornography, as it seems contradictory to me.
>>76360800I don't see how. Man is not motivated by base sexual desire, man desires true companionship because he is incomplete without a woman. Totally different attracting forces. Sex gets mixed up in that, or confused with it, but reducing man's desire for union with a female to "I gets'd a boner" doesn't fit, and doesn't bear out in experience or what I know to be true about humans
>>76360809Interesting. It gives me a bit to think about I suppose, regarding whether my reduced libido post-porn is something to be considered normal. Though at this stage being with a woman only gets me excited some of the time, no idea if that's normal or not, it just feels like a chore at times for some reason (a consequence of getting older? Less porn? Idk).
>>76360812Your libido does go down as you get older in general yeah that's well known
>>76339226 (OP)it doesn't matter. every time some mentions it's good to not constantly pull on your dick and cumming all over the floor while looking at tittie-shaped pixels a bunch of bitches start complaining and defending it.
you give people the answer and they just reject it. "the truth" is useless because "the truth" is that nobody even wants the truth.