Thread 76356037

>strength means size
Why does /fit/ say this shit when this man is benching 405 at 150lbs and barely looks like he lifts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l84vmuuuHRg

>>76356037 (OP)
>barely looks like he lifts?
He looks like someone who is 5'2" who lifts.

>>76356048
so this is what a 4pl8 bench gets you to?

>>76356055
if you're 5'2 and natty, yeah.

>in b4 not natty
check the traps and delts, retard. this is a result of someone who does literally only 1 main lift. he's stated this and even detailed how he trains for this lift.

>>76356037 (OP)
>>76356048
>>76356066
he's like 5'9 and literally did nothing but bench press, pull-ups, and a tricep accessory so weighing 150lbs has to take into account he has absolutely no muscle on his lower body

>>76356066
What a scam natty lifting is

>>76356094
lets see you bench 4pl8 natty.

>>76356115
Why would I chase a big bench when this guy has done it already and looks worse than a zoom zoom spamming isolation shit

>>76356066
2bf he does squat. some vids hes squatting 3pl8s but thats p much nothing to the reg gym goer

>>76356139
i dunno anon, why the fuck would you do anything at all?

for fun, that's why. why are you even alive?

>>76356037 (OP)
405 is nothing. Go look at what somebody who benches 700+ looks like.

>>76356169
Fun for me is having a shredded big enough body that makes me look like I lift, chasing arbitrary numbers as a natty is a waste of time

>>76356187
They all look fat and dogshit, nobody wants to look like that

>>76356197
okay, lets see your shressed fizeek then.

>>76356202
You're gonna move the goalposts in this thread too?

>>76356197
Well he probably thinks being shredded is a waste of time. Weird how that works

>>76356202
They look like they lift. While you look like you sit on 4chan

>>76356037 (OP)
>>76356202
>people learn that sarcoplastic hyperthrophy is not the same as myofibrillar hyperthrophy or myofibrillar packing

it's almost as if those big bodybuilders used to do high volume with low weights

>>76356037 (OP)
>Why does /fit/ say this shit when this man is benching 405 at 150lbs and barely looks like he lifts?
He only does bench, no back or legs

Because progressing lifts is what makes you bigger. Imagine if he did this with more than one (1) single lift.

What a low IQ thread
This guy is a 'thing' precisely because he's a weird outlier

>>76356139
I've been noticing this with the Jeff Nippard isolation zoomers too, why do they all have no size at all?

>>76356037 (OP)
It's just frame. He's built small naturally.

>>76356514
>progression
that's literally it for natty lifters. I don't even lift year round anymore. I take months off all the time and when I do lift it's just progressive overload on bench, ohp, and squat for a few months then cool it again and fuck around with climbing and cycling more.

>>76356139
>>76357373
Only coping oldtroons like Mike chase isolations, most zoomers do a mix of compounds and isolation machines and dumbbells isolations

>>76356037 (OP)
you know they mean muscle size and fiber density right?
not dyel size

>>76356037 (OP)
>Why does /fit/ say this shit when this man is benching 405 at 150lbs and barely looks like he lifts?

There's a difference between benching 405 for around 10-12 reps like it aint shit and benching it for 1 or 2 reps, thinking you're the hot shit, and training this way around once a week. The latter which is basically ego lifting for TikTok is truly the shit pussy way.

>>76356514
you're gonna make it

>>76356268
>doesnt explain
i dont think you've learned it either

>>76356187
>>76356202
>nobody wants to look like that

Not just this, but imagine how shit your quality of life will be, living on a CPAP like a fucking MiG fighter pilot, barely able to walk 10 feat without dying like a fat cunt out of breath, and just being in pain all the time from joint aches and all kinds of unhealthy skin issues. Not to mention the toxic stench that will eminate from all the horrible shit you'd have to eat. Powerlifters just eat whatever they want all day long and think they have a hard life. Sure do buddy, for all the illnesses it brings.

>>76356961
the biggest strongest are also weird outliers rather than the benchmark nobody else is like them

>>76357402
Based no gains DYEL

>>76356514
What is ur program and routine

>>76356055
When you're a short Asian with an ugly face, yes.

East Asian man here AMA. yes i am bumping this thread huhaha

>>76356066
>>76356076
>>76356468
>>76357489
Holy cope it's all about genetics isn't it? There's dudes benching 2pl8 for 8 while being way heavier than the dude in OP meanwhile he can pause rep 2pl8 and rep it for 15-20, but the dudes struggling to bench 2pl8 still look better than him which proves that chasing strength is a waste of time

>>76360206
no its not. it feels godly to mog bigger dudes on the bench press. they always leave quickly after i start benching KEK

>>76360206
youre correct just look at dyel powershitters

i love the bewilderment from DYELS when i start benching, and my bench is small but im a small east asian dude. i can read their expressions, theyre just like:

>"no it isnt possible, how can that small dude bench that? i cant even bench half of that"

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! watch me go super saiyan

>>76356166
>squatting 3 plates is average
People are so fucking stupid on 4ch its fucking unreal. Whats next, avg is 225 bench for reps? Fucking actual retard

>>76356197
you're completely right anon. At the end of the day, we all started lifting because we wanted to look good.
Don't let yourself be gaslighted into chasing some arbitrary, irrelevant goals that won't help you meet your needs

>>76360234
225 is below average. More people bench and take it more seriously then squat

>>76360238
225kg bro, not 225lbs. you bench 225kgs?

>>76360238
>225 is below avg
Yup youre retarded. Literally brain dead.

>>76360242
No i don’t. Yeah i thought it was lbs

>>76360258
me neither lol

>>76360238
>>76360258
top 20% of men can bench 225lbs for 1rm in the US. that already disproves you. you are genuinely retarded like the other guy said

>>76360226
My nigga that shit is good for ur ego I guess but if you don't look better than them what is the freaking point

>>76360238
do ya normally spout nonsense without researching?

>>76360265
>what is the freaking point
heh. perhaps you will know someday, young saiyan. strength and power are their own rewards.

HRAAAH!

>>76360262
I dont consider dyels benching below 225 as men

>>76360262
>>76360273
Maybe he doesnt know what average means maybe he thinks there is no hunger in the world because hes not hungry

>>76360276
so your new definition of below average is only taken into account since your main subjects are people who look like they work out/jacked and they bench press? i cant even say you tried

>>76360279
NTA but yes, i understand him. i must train harder.

t. 245lbs bench pressing weakling

>>76360285
>245lbs bench pressing weakling
ahahahhahahhaha dude i thought you were strong

>>76360289
;_;

245lbs for 3.5 reps is my PR too and im stalling. i did it for 2 reps last time.

>>76360289
I bench 765

>>76356037 (OP)
Its all technique whats he doing for reps?

>>76360299
What kinda techniquebdo you favor? If not one mosly then what few?

>>76358968
That's not me. It's the guy OP is calling dyel. So the routine you're looking for is don't get fat + bench press a lot.
Imagine if he progressed two (2) lifts.

>>76356037 (OP)
Strength is a weird thing. I was 130 or 140 lbs, 5'8, skinny fat. I would get a 30 lb dumbbell and do front raise for 10 to 13 reps each hand, and some taller, steroid looking black guy couldn't do it.

>>76360299
Post belly

>>76360262
That's crazy. I'm an everythinglet and I bench 250. I understand sucking at something believe me. I squat less than my bench. But I mean it's just pushing a bar. It's not that hard. If my little 5" wrists and miniature body can do it there's no way these stats are correct.

>>76356197
Agreed, chase what looks good in the mirror. Nobody cares what poundage you lift except powershitters.

>>76356037 (OP)
Because the dude is a genetic freak that’s short and has amazing leverages, he’s the 1 in 10,0000 exception to the rule. Almost nobody who benches 405 is going to look like he does, they’re going to look big.

>>76356037 (OP)
>strength means size
Strength is a function of how many muscle fibers you have and how many can your central nervous system recruit, you can achieve the same effective strength with different ratios of these two variables. This man clearly doesn't have as many fibers as bigger guys, but his CNS is very effective at recruiting a lot of them. I'd assume he does more strength training than hypertrophy.

Why not both?
I do month when i bench 100kg for 15-20 reps and other when i bench 140kg for 3 or 155kg for 1
You can do both anons
Pic rel8 my body

>>76360285
>>76360289
Jesus christ assuming you guys aren't trolling the fucking inflation of physical standards for being "fit" that I have witnessed in my lifetime are crazy. In the 90's if you weren't a pro bodybuilder/olympic lifter/powerlifter/strongman having a bench of 200lb+ was considered awesome. Have you people gone insane?

>>76360708
No one here actually lifts, you will be lucky if even half the anons itt touched a barbell in their life.

>>76360588
height and weight?

>>76360708
Fake natties weren't a thing yet.

>>76360708
If im not repping 3pl8s in under a year im gonna become a thai ladyboy, if i wanna look pretty might as well.

>>76356048
It looks not natty because it looks like a normal frame with tits on it, natty lifting and actually getting strong produces a natural looking flow of muscle at least while flexed which he may not be. I dont see any veins but he is asian so super autistic and meticulous so i wouldnt doubt hes roided and did it with less steroids but honestly moneys on juiced since its 2025 and hes benching above 2pl8s.

>>76361116
You're gonna become thai?

>bench press hyperspecialist has well-developed pecs and not much else
Quite surprising. I'd assume a bench press specialist would have huge lats, spinal erectors, abs and especially calves. I wonder what could have caused this.

>>76360262
~166m men in the US, so 20% of that is ~33m

you really believe 33 million men in the US can bench 225? How ironic you are calling someone genuinely retarded LMFAO

>>76356037 (OP)
> ITT
> Complete retards comparing themselves to an anomaly

>>76356037 (OP)
>>strength means size
>Why does /fit/ say this shit when this man is benching 405 at 150lbs and barely looks like he lifts?
I will bet you $1000 that his chest and triceps are bigger than they were when he was weaker.

>>76363301
Sure but lets say Bruce Lee for example, he could probably grip in his peak more than most of /fit/, he's not that huge at 5'6"

>>76361114
Those were the "pros" who got away with cheating. Tiktok clout chasers weren't a thing yet.

>>76357501
did a baby wanna spoonfeeding session? awww

>>76356037 (OP)
instead of 3 or 1 rep he would be able to do 4 or 5 if he had size its a really basic concept to understand how size means strength.

>>76363348
Best way to bulk up with strength training is 3x8-12 set/rep range if you do it casually though. If doing calisthenics sets of 12-20 reps is good enough of a result to start seeing results if you gas your tank out to around one or two remaining sets for the day. Strength work alone doesn't build size in that 3-5 rep range, you can see a lot of athletes doing that sort of range and maintaining their body weight in body weight sports.

>>76356076
fpbp
/thread

he austically specialized in bench press without any real program and got to 410lbs on pure brute force attrition. His program sucks huge donkey dick as he self-admittedly only gained +5lbs/year taking him 10 years to go from 365 to 410 (yes, he actually failed to increase 5lbs for one of those years). he injured himself doing smolov jr because he was bored and started testing his mac on week 2; he breaks the stereotype of asians all being smart.

>>76363317
Okay, then I'll bet you $1000 that bruce lee's forearms were bigger when his grip was strongest than before his grip was that strong.

>>76363429
He was lean pilled and didn't consume a fuck ton of food. Also a meth head lmao. The peak he bulked to was in that movie with the scene where he showcases his lats on the balcony scene. Big arms to him were detrimental to martial arts striking and hand speed in general.

>>76363439
>striking and hand speed
Not what we're talking about.

The sad truth about natty strength sports.... If you're in a weight class under 180 you'll always look DYEL even if you're benching 2x bodyweight.

>>76363478
>If you're small you'll look small
Wow!

>>76360708
brother I hate to tell you this, but even in the early 00s, having a lmao2plate bench just meant you had been lifting for 4-6 months. 275 was always the original wall when it came to separating the newbies from the "i take this somewhat seriously" crowd with 315 being the "congrats, you're now a baby lifter" mark.

>>76363600
Sorry to tell you this, but there are actual statistics out and only 0.3% of men can bench press 225. You are literally retarded and base your guesses on nothing but retard logic.

>>76363782
He didn't say that more than 0.3% of men do it. You know there's like 12 of us here right now, right?

>>76357373
I've tried one of Jeffs programs and it has compounds, not just isolation. It has squats, rdls, flat and inclined bench, pendlay rows. Everything is in the 6+ rep range

>>76356268
Honestly, it sounds like pseudo science.

>>76360588
This has to be steroids.

>>76356268
>it's almost as if those big bodybuilders used to do high volume with low weights
They do both high volume and then shift to high weights and vice versa.
It's called periodization.

>>76356268
size = strength

>>76360962
>>76364647
Natty, just caffeine, seldomly weed before stretch and lots of heavy music
176-178cm 76-78kg

>>76360262
I've seen bench for money street videos where unassuming passersby like a mexcian landscaper do 225 easily without warmup. 225 is only impressive in a highschool gym.

>>76356037 (OP)
his chest is absolutely ridiculous
whats your point? if something this example just supports that claim lol

>>76356037 (OP)
Are you blind, that guy nearly has DD tits

>>76364783
this man weighs 130lbs. 1-3-0 POUNDS total and deadlifts 600+ for REPS. and you?

>>76365917
If he gained size he would deadlift more.

>>76365917
I'm natty.

>>76366197
right so how many people to have ever existed in the history of the human race deadlift 600 for reps? hes already at top sub 1% human strength ALL TIME.
>durrr hed be stronger if he were bigger
there's an effective range for human strength where getting bigger does little to nothing unless you're trying to break records. getting twice as big to gain 1% strength is pants on head retarded when youre already stronger than everybody but a few outliers like eddie hall or hafthor

>>76365917
if I had a literal monkey-tier physique and could touch my kneecaps while standing straight up, I'd deadlift 700
also that vid is old as fuck he's probably in snap city by now

>>76366255
thats just another problem that currently proves nothing. rom isnt taken into account in competition. if it were then my point could be even stronger. maybe if they measured rom youd find smaller guys winning more.
fact is its not as simple as size=strength or the record holders would simply gain 20kgs to break records.
furthermore if size=strength then you could tell me roughly how much strength i can gain by weight but you can't because you're wrong.

If size=strength then how come bodybuilders dont dominate powerlifting? They're barely competitive at best and often weaker than men half their size.
>hurrrdurrrx steroids
Powerlifters are all on gallons of gear

>>76366396
>rom isnt taken into account in competition
It is priced in, particularly with bench press vs deadlift. Builds advantageous for squat and deadlift are also divergent from one another e.g. in terms of femur and back length.
>you could tell me roughly how much strength i can gain by
Assuming you are arguing from a point of good faith, you an refer to the article below as a starting point. Obviously these are rules of thumbs assuming that you are following a serious training regimen and there are other secondary factors that may throw things on one side or the other slightly.
https://www.strongerbyscience.com/your-drug-free-muscle-and-strength-potential-part-2/

>>76366826
wide stance squat reduces rom, sumo reduces rom, long arms reduces rom, big arch reduces rom, etc. these are comically huge differences that are not accounted for in any way in competition. so much so that the no rom powerlifter is a long standing meme.
>drug free potential
good luck with that. all the top lifters are on gear. the evidence supporting size=strength couldnt be more tainted. theres a much wider difference in size and strength in naturals if u could even prove ur natty u cant tho.

>>76366396
ROM is a weakling cope, prove this to yourself by elevating a 600lbs barbell two inches off the ground and failing to lift it in your widest sumo stance, or getting folded in two while trying to half squatting the same weight. Or by grabbing the bar from collar to collar and benching 600 lbs since the stroke is so much shorter now.

>>76356037 (OP)
>barely looks like he lifts?
you have body dysmorphia

In hindsight this guy was on gear right?

>>76367073
He's just short with a long torso which is aesthetically not the great physique in terms of mogging. His chest is still huge

>>76366957
no i could easily lift 600lbs 2 inches untrained. ive seen dyel as fuck kids do it

>>76363600
I'm talking about general muscularity rather than "lifting weights is my fucking life, I define my existence by this!"

>>76361116
It’s not worth it. I managed to plateau at 3 plates for 2 reps and all I got was fat and sleep apnea.

>230lbs
>5’6

I’m down to 215lbs and feel much better. Fuck lifting heavy….as a natty

>>76356037 (OP)
>>76356066
>>76356094
what are you faggot retards talking about, the dude is strong as fuck and definitely looks fit. You all need to get off the internet and stop looking at roided man all day faggots, you are delusional.

>>76356037 (OP)
yeah, vast majority of the natty powerlifters look dyel as well

>>76356037 (OP)
freaky bench specialist.

>>76356187
>>76356468
>>76358987


Cope.
Seethe.
Dilate.

>>76360234
My thoughts exactly. Out of touch for sure.

>>76360238
Retard detected. See my above sentence.

>>76360294
I can do 225 for 2.
Plug your numbers into ChatGPT and itll tell you your ONE rep max and what you should be working out with. Its badass.