Thread 76360957

Cholestrol is actually good for you. Eat your steaks bros.
The study: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-38461-y

>>76360957 (OP)
Pepper is better for you than salt. Otherwise the rest is true.

>>76360957 (OP)
>Avoid cardiac arrest: Practice cardiac arrest everyday

from my understanding cholestrol is like anything else in life: good in moderation. and i believe it's essential with hormone regulations

Leftoids are racing to the bottom in a death cult of misery so of course they tell you cholesterol, carbon and sunlight is even though life would not exist without these things

>>76360964
Whose ass did you pull that out of? You literally need salt to live. There is no biological need for pepper. Pepper also contains toxins and causes gastrointestinal issues.
>but muh antioxidants
Your body cannot use plant antioxidants. Your body makes its own antioxidants. You probably don’t even now why antioxidants are “healthy”.

>confusing association and causality
When will they learn

>>76361025
Cholesterol isn't something that needs to be "moderated". It exists in the ideal amounts in natural foods, which are animal foods. The idea of moderating an arbitrary chemical constituent of a natural food to which we are best adapted is so intellectually moronic it's kinda offensive that people repeat that sort of pseudo-expertise. What next, I need to eat "essential fiber" from modern foods for my gut health? So I can walk around with a gassy distended gut? Isn't that what fat diseased government activists also say?

People need to go further than just rejecting government guidelines (which anyone remotely intelligent already does). They need to stop framing foods in terms of calories and macronutrients but instead view them in terms of their quality (ie their wildness) and that extent to which they we are adapted to them. All our nutritional needs take care of themselves if these criteria are met.

>>76361169
when everyone is fat sawdust will appear to be the healthiest food

>>76361169
What do you say to all the controlled trials and mendelian randomization trials that have shown that lowering cholesterol directly decreases negative heart events?

>>76361010

jej

>>76361070
>some sunlight good, a lot is bad
>some cholesterol is good, a lot is bad
Are you so retarded you can only think in black and whites or something? Woman tier behaviour.

>>76361241
You know what I do when I've had enough sunlight? I go in the shade. I don't make it my mission to dump metal shavings and poisonous gases into the atmosphere because I'm not a faggot nerd scientist with a drive to bring everyone else down to my dysgenic level

>>76361483
>he fell for the shock value clickbait news article
you ARE that retarded, got it

>>76361630
>uh actually scientists aren't responsible for every endocrine disrupting chemical in our environment
nerds must be culled

>>76361205
What other parameters were changed to get cholesterol down? Was everything the same except a statin was introduced?

>>76360957 (OP)
>just do the opposite of what the people you don't like say to do
this is just allowing the government to dictate your worldview with extra steps

>>76360957 (OP)
>Science bad
>Post Science
You carnifags are hilarious, just clowns with different make up. All meat eating (blood sacrifice) cultures end up shoving things up each others asses and eat/rape/kill children. Im good dude, dairy is the only thing I need from an animal. Enjoy being at the brain level of a fucking nigger.

>>76361169
Tell me about all the cows that are fed corn and grains and then fattened up with growth hormone and kept in stalls barely the size of their own bodies "in nature"

>>76361070
>Britain's enemies
>Greenlit by the bong government
For once the papers aren't lying.

>>76360957 (OP)
what a fat glutton

>>76361824
Yeah dude, "in nature" fags get raped by bears and silverback gorillas. They are brain dead because they cant even uphold to their "in nature" life style.

>>76361859
Are you okay?

>>76360957 (OP)
People giving this advice out unironically are genuine psychopaths getting a kick out of killing people indirectly.

Pure scum.

>>76361483
What is this particular specimen's field of scientific expertise? There are rocket models in the background, I hope he's not an actual rocket engineer.

>>76362540
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/professor-tracy-smart-ao-002a691b_public-health-announcement-i-had-covid-jab-activity-7151708236331515904-mg9B

>>76360957 (OP)
YOU DON'T EAT CHOLESTEROL
YOUR BODY MAKES CHOLESTEROL

>>76361868
Yeah? I am gonna do some rows and overhead press in abit. Are you okay?

>>76360959
>participants
Hello sarr

>>76361639
>I can't stop falling for ragebait and clickbait
it's not too late to seek help!

>>76361824
You vegan fags sure are retarded. It's called ranching. What would cost more feeding cows grains and corn or letting them walk around and eat random plants in nature? Ranchers get permits from the BLM to graze on public lands. It costs about $2 a month per cow. How much corn or grain do you think a cow could eat a month friend?
Fun additional thing for you to learn about. A monoculture farm destroys vast areas of animal habitat with harmful pesticides and little animals getting caught up in threshing machines during harvest while a cow grazing steps around the little critters and it's poo makes the land more fertile.

>>76360957 (OP)
> Salt bad.
Another garbage grains/cereal industry lobby myth.
> Salt good.
> Meat and cholesterol from them and eggs good.
There you go men.

>>76361025
cholesterol is literally testosterone in fat
its the same chemical formula

>>76362594
>>76361483
>Air Vice Marshal Tracy Lee Smart, AO is an Australian physician, medical administrator, and a retired senior officer in the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF). She served as Commander of Joint Health Command and Surgeon General of the Australian Defence Force from December 2015 to December 2019.
>>She

>>76360957 (OP)
I do this and I tell people when they ask and they look at me like I'm fucking insane even though I look and perform better than them. I don't get it.

>>76361010
Unironically I think I've had a few and they're not a big deal. Your first one will kill you because you're weak and malnourished.

>>76361910
Yeah. Good people don't want to control everybody else and psychopaths do so we get diabolical advice coming from positions of authority. It's the fundamental problem.

>>76361205
most lipid lowering drugs have failed in controlled trials. From cetp inhibitors to fibrates to niacin to pcsk9 inhibitors to cholestyramine to ezetimibe. Statins are the exception due to pleiotropic effects on coagulopathy and inflammation not cholesterol lowering. MR studies do not show causation and have myriad issues
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30198808/

>>76360957 (OP)
what about this where they adjust for more variables?
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/JAHA.123.030496

>>76360957 (OP)
I'm vegan so don't know what a steak.is supposed to look like, but isn't that extremely overcooked?

>>76364520
I'm a normal person who eats meat and it doesn't look especially appetizing to me either.

>>76360957 (OP)
you still need a little carbs so your liver doesnt work overtime and your cortisol levels arent too high. 100g/a handful of berries a day should be fine

>>76360957 (OP)
If you read your study you would know that cholesterol is not good for you, there is an optimal range that is safe and if you go beyond that your mortality risk increases.

Since you probably blast your system with high cholesterol foods you are probably unhealthier than the average person

>>76364788
GNG happens either way. The difference is small whether or not you're eating carbs nor is it stressful on the liver
>>76364799
If you eat too much of it for your needs it won't be absorbed unless you're one of the rare hyper absorbers

>>76361169
>view them in terms of their quality (ie their wildness)
you are so close to some actual nutrition here but have been taken in by a basic appeal to nature fallacy (wildness = quality)
post body and if you mog me I will start eating steak every day

>>76364812
>If you eat too much of it for your needs it won't be absorbed
According to the study in OP that's wrong, your risk of mortality increases

>>76364921
The study is about serum levels not dietary intake. The two are not linearly related

>>76360957 (OP)
Yes, cholesterol is good for you.
>>76360964
>Pepper is better for you than salt
Literally the opposite.

>>76364946
Your body produces cholesterol and testosterone without needing a high blood cholesterol level

>>76361070
I like how after decades of calling people "conspiracy theorists" for pointing out that chemtrails are real and manmade, the mainstream media is now nonchalantly admitting to it.

They have been doing this for years but are now pretending it's a brand new phenomenon.

>>76364956
We've been eating lots of fatty meat and eggs for hundreds of thousands of years. The anti-cholesterol narrative is modern propaganda designed to make you weak, sick, and infertile. If you ate more steak and eggs, you'd realize that they make you feel more vital, and that's quite simply because they are part of our natural diet.

>>76364974
those are condensation trails my little retardo dude

>>76364974
You'd have to be an avid normie to believe in the science that it's completely natural for contrails to form perfect geometric patterns then spread out into a haze that lasts for hours

>>76360957 (OP)
Eating red meat everyday would probably give you gout, I would try to mix it up with fish and poultry if I could afford to eat steak daily.

>>76364993
>If I name it something else it magically makes it less violating
They are dispersing metals and toxins into the atmosphere and I don't give a fuck what word you use to describe it, retard.

>>76364992
fatty animals barely exist in natural conditions
most animals are lean
and they're hard to catch
a painting is not a proof of anything

>>76364926
It sounds like you just wanna eat a lot of steak and dairy and look for any sign that confirms that its viable

>>76365007
>after humans hunted all the fattest animals to extinction big fat animals are rare in nature
absolutely stunningly brave and brilliant

>>76364996
Two more weeks?
>>76365009
Try engaging with what I actually said next time lil bro

>>76365007
Do you understand that things change over time? That woolly mammoths used to exist but no longer do? Or is your brain so cholesterol-deprived that you are incapable of understanding such abstract concepts?

>>76365017
so? yes they existed and they don't exist anymore, for a long time now
a few single species of animals that are fat doesn't change the fact that most animals are lean
you want to make it sound like humans through their entire history had wooly mammoths as their staple diet
but they didn't
they are hard to catch and we don't know how big the mammoth population was
we don't know if it was a yearly treat of meat or they ate it every day
looking at drawings is not going to help you know the truth

>>76365068
>they are hard to catch
Modern anthropology of elephant hunting shows they're easy to kill. And even if success rate is low one kill could sustain a tribe for weeks if not months
>looking at drawings
Isotope studies support human hyper carnivory among myriad other lines of evidence

>>76365080
>hyper carnivory

then why do humans display so many benefits from eating carbohydrates and fibre?
>superior performance
>superior health
>omnivorous dental structure
>cravings for salt, something that only herbivores display because plants do not have enough salt
how is it that literally the carnivore poster boy Saladino had to switch to fruits and carbs because he couldn't handle it even though his entire personality is based around eating meat only

>>76365112
Hypercarnivory doesn't mean 100% meat its 70% or more. The rest of your post is equally ill informed

>>76365125
oh if you want to say people eat meat and other things then I'm fine with that

>>76365132
Modern anthropology show a wide range of human diets in terms of percent animal foods. Courdain et al found 20-100% animal foods in MODERN hunter gatherers if memory serves. If more animal foods were available as they likely were in the past the lower bound would be higher and more consistent with our evolutionary history before agriculture and the late quaternary megafauna extinction

>>76364704
>>76364520
It looks like shit from someone who has no idea how to cook a steak so they just threw it in the oven

>>76365150
it's all just conjecture how much the exact numbers are
we know humans are perfectly fine eating meat
we know humans are perfectly fine eating plants

saying humans ate alot of fatty meat is made up
but i'm not saying humans didn't eat fatty meat occasionally whenever opportunity presented it
humans after all have excellent fat storage capacity and you can't get fat from carbohydrates and most plants are low in fat

clearly humans are adapted to opportunistic diets, eat whatever you can get and get the best out of it


now which one is more healthy long-term, we wouldn't find out from evolutinary data, because evolution doesn't really select for longevity, it only selects for survival and mating

>>76365230
>it's all just conjecture how much the exact numbers are
Its not. Isotope studies can be compared to other animals in the same environments. Humans almost always come out among carnivores pre agriculture
>we know humans are perfectly fine eating only meat
>we know humans arent perfectly fine eating only plants
this asymmetry should tell us something
>evolution doesn't really select for longevity, it only selects for survival and mating
eating in a way consistent with your biology is the most likely strategy for optimal longevity. We never put animals in a zoo and discover lions eating broccoli live longer

>>76365355
your biology favors carb consumption as much as it favors fat consumption
arguably more so but that would be just nitpicking in either direction

>>76365230
>we know humans are perfectly fine eating meat
wrong

>>76365374
Some adaptations have happened since agriculture sure but many maybe most are for meat and fat not starch and sugar. But sure maybe that's nitpicking

>>76363309
Are you really this clueless about the way 95% of beef is produced? I don't think you have ever seen a cow in your life.

>>76360957 (OP)
>giving yourself skin cancer and congestive heart failure to own the libs

>>76363309
literally nothing you just said addresses the point that he made or is a coherent response to the post chain. Literally nobody mentioned veganism or that eating meat was wrong or anything like that.

>>76365448
>95% of beef is produced
maybe in your shithole

>>76365679
read: >>76362624

My grand dad was a doctor and I saw him get angry at this sort of thing more than a few times.
It isn't as simple as something being good or bad for you, if you think like this you're as intelligent as someone living in a stick-shit hut. All of these studies that dumb it down are trying to subtly push people towards the grave because EVERYONE wants to escape the industrial complex but we need it to provide for this many fucking people too. America's service to the world is culling gullible people. The same people whites have been replaced with will experience the same culling.

>>76365860
Yeah I agree, the keto diet is just a great culling of gullible normie retards
They will all die at 60 from heart failures